Episode 15

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0:00:11 > 0:00:14Hello and welcome to Debatable, where today,

0:00:14 > 0:00:17one player must answer a series of tricky questions to try to

0:00:17 > 0:00:20walk away with a jackpot of over £3,000.

0:00:20 > 0:00:23But, as always, they're not on their own.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25They will have a panel of well known faces debating their way to

0:00:25 > 0:00:29the answers. Will they be all talk and no action, however?

0:00:29 > 0:00:32As always, that's debatable. So, let's meet them.

0:00:32 > 0:00:34Chin-wagging their way to the answers today,

0:00:34 > 0:00:38we have writer and journalist Grace Dent, we have broadcaster

0:00:38 > 0:00:41Dan Walker, and former royal correspondent Jennie Bond.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44CHEERS AND APPLAUSE

0:00:44 > 0:00:47Hello. Hello. Good afternoon.

0:00:47 > 0:00:50It's a very finely balanced panel, I have to say, Dan.

0:00:50 > 0:00:54- You're taking charge today.- That's a big responsibility, Patrick.

0:00:54 > 0:00:56- I'm slightly concerned about this. - It is!

0:00:56 > 0:00:59- But you've got the knowledge to back it up.- Occasionally.

0:00:59 > 0:01:00Stop building it up.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02Stop it!

0:01:02 > 0:01:06So, what are you hoping for? What's the strengths and weaknesses?

0:01:06 > 0:01:09- Well, obviously, you know, Jennie knows everything.- Oh, gosh!

0:01:09 > 0:01:11Jennie does know a lot. She really does.

0:01:11 > 0:01:14- There's a lot of knowledge in there. Grace...- What am I?

0:01:14 > 0:01:18- I'm just getting to you, Grace. - Come on, get to me.- Hang on. She's started already.

0:01:18 > 0:01:21- "Hey! What am I? Chopped liver?" - No, deep and powerful insight.

0:01:21 > 0:01:25As a columnist, I know a little bit about a lot of things.

0:01:25 > 0:01:29And I shall be sort of threading that knowledge together and

0:01:29 > 0:01:32funnelling it towards money.

0:01:32 > 0:01:36He's diplomatic, Grace, if nothing else. LAUGHTER

0:01:36 > 0:01:39I have to say. That is the panel. Let's meet today's contestant.

0:01:39 > 0:01:41It is Shabs from Chigwell. APPLAUSE

0:01:41 > 0:01:45- Shabs, welcome to the show.- Thank you very much.- Congratulations.

0:01:45 > 0:01:47You are the only contestant we've had on this series that is

0:01:47 > 0:01:50actually dressed smarter than the host.

0:01:50 > 0:01:51I don't know what to say!

0:01:51 > 0:01:54So, tell us a little bit about yourself, Shabs.

0:01:54 > 0:01:57I have two jobs. I work in finance during the week and I'm

0:01:57 > 0:01:59a toastmaster at the weekends.

0:01:59 > 0:02:01So, which one do you enjoy most?

0:02:01 > 0:02:04- Well, if my boss is watching, then I enjoy my finance job.- Yes.

0:02:04 > 0:02:08But I do really, really enjoy being a toastmaster at the weekends, cos you get to meet

0:02:08 > 0:02:13- so many different people, you get to go to so many different events. - And what does a toastmaster do?

0:02:13 > 0:02:15So do you have to wear the full outfit, all that stuff?

0:02:15 > 0:02:17You dress like a tomato from head to toe.

0:02:17 > 0:02:21- Yes.- As you can see, I'm a very tall guy, so it's sweeping the floor.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24You just host events, you introduce acts,

0:02:24 > 0:02:27you host weddings and you just bring everything together, really.

0:02:27 > 0:02:29So, what do you make of today's panel?

0:02:29 > 0:02:32I'm actually quite comforted cos it's quite diverse and I'm

0:02:32 > 0:02:35feeling very confident because of these guys, not because of me.

0:02:35 > 0:02:39- You're a diplomat, aren't you? - I learned from the best, Paddy. - You're a diplomat. Very good.

0:02:39 > 0:02:42OK, well, look, you're going to have to pay close attention to

0:02:42 > 0:02:46them because you can only choose one to play the Final Debate.

0:02:46 > 0:02:49- Let's go.- All set?- All set. - OK, best of luck, Shabs.

0:02:49 > 0:02:51Let's play Round One.

0:02:53 > 0:02:56Round One is multiple choice. Four possible answers.

0:02:56 > 0:03:00Four questions in this round. A possible £800 up for grabs.

0:03:00 > 0:03:02£200 for each correct answer. Let's go.

0:03:20 > 0:03:24Is that a knowing smile or an "I don't know anything" smile?

0:03:24 > 0:03:27That's a wait and see smile, Paddy.

0:03:27 > 0:03:30A wait and see smile, with a little wink.

0:03:30 > 0:03:33Which means - we may know this. Let's see if our panel do.

0:03:33 > 0:03:35Your debate starts now.

0:03:35 > 0:03:39- OK.- I think Mrs Brown's Boys is actually fairly recent.

0:03:39 > 0:03:43Because it's been the one that's cleaned up at Christmas for

0:03:43 > 0:03:45about three years.

0:03:45 > 0:03:48Miranda is also fairly recent because it started as

0:03:48 > 0:03:51a radio show and then went to a TV show. There's only two things...

0:03:51 > 0:03:54It's either Gavin & Stacey or The Inbetweeners.

0:03:54 > 0:03:57- The Inbetweeners has had time to make two Hollywood movies.- Yeah.

0:03:57 > 0:04:00Gavin & Stacey, when you watch the original series now,

0:04:00 > 0:04:03it does feel like it has been around for an awful long time.

0:04:03 > 0:04:05- It feels like it's been around for a long time.- Yeah.

0:04:05 > 0:04:09- How old was I?- Hang on a minute. - I interviewed Ruth.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12That was before my last husband...

0:04:12 > 0:04:14LAUGHTER

0:04:14 > 0:04:19- I remember...- I didn't realise we had Elizabeth Taylor on the panel.

0:04:19 > 0:04:22I remember interviewing James Corden in 2009...

0:04:22 > 0:04:25- And this was when he first made the breakthrough...- ..in 2009.

0:04:25 > 0:04:29- ..from when he was in the Fat Club thingy on ITV with Ruth Jones.- Yeah.

0:04:29 > 0:04:30That's right.

0:04:30 > 0:04:33So I think Gavin & Stacey had been around for a while cos he was

0:04:33 > 0:04:36well known and we did it at Upton Park, where West Ham used to play.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39- OK.- And that was 2009. Cos I'd just started on Football Focus and

0:04:39 > 0:04:42he was one of the first interviews, celebrity football fans, we did.

0:04:42 > 0:04:44- So 2009.- So he'd been around for a few years...

0:04:44 > 0:04:47Gavin & Stacey, I think, had been around for a few years before that.

0:04:47 > 0:04:50- Before 2009?- Yeah.- They all seem... - Those boys in The Inbetweeners,

0:04:50 > 0:04:52they were kids in that and now they're adults.

0:04:52 > 0:04:54From what you're saying, though,

0:04:54 > 0:04:57I would say maybe The Inbetweeners is the earliest.

0:04:57 > 0:04:59Come on, you make the final decision.

0:04:59 > 0:05:01I know I'm sitting in the middle,

0:05:01 > 0:05:04but with your televisual knowledge, which one are we going to go for?

0:05:04 > 0:05:07- Let's go for Gavin & Stacey.- OK. - Gavin & Stacey?

0:05:07 > 0:05:10Jennie Bond is unsure. Grace has got her hands on her head.

0:05:10 > 0:05:13- But we are going to go for Gavin & Stacey.- So invested in this!

0:05:13 > 0:05:16We think.

0:05:16 > 0:05:20- So...- That was terrible!

0:05:20 > 0:05:24From that timeline, they are going for Gavin & Stacey.

0:05:24 > 0:05:26My initial reaction was The Inbetweeners.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28But...

0:05:28 > 0:05:30- DAN:- Oh, no!

0:05:30 > 0:05:35Having heard what Dan said, I think I'm going to go with the panel.

0:05:35 > 0:05:39- OK, you're going with the panel and you're saying...?- Gavin & Stacey.

0:05:39 > 0:05:43Was Gavin & Stacey broadcast first, for £200?

0:05:49 > 0:05:50APPLAUSE

0:05:50 > 0:05:53- Well done!- Yes!

0:05:54 > 0:05:57Shabs, I'm exhausted!

0:05:57 > 0:05:59Can I go home?

0:05:59 > 0:06:02- You're staying, Grace! - That was fantastic.- Well done, guys.

0:06:02 > 0:06:07Very well done. Gavin & Stacey began on BBC Three in 2007.

0:06:07 > 0:06:11The Inbetweeners began on E4 in 2008,

0:06:11 > 0:06:12with the episode First Day.

0:06:12 > 0:06:16Miranda began on BBC Two in 2009.

0:06:16 > 0:06:21And Mrs Brown's Boys began on BBC One in 2011.

0:06:21 > 0:06:23First episode was called The Mammy.

0:06:23 > 0:06:24Well done, panel.

0:06:24 > 0:06:28Well done, Shabs. You're up and running. £200.

0:06:28 > 0:06:30APPLAUSE

0:06:30 > 0:06:32OK, here comes your next question.

0:07:01 > 0:07:03I have no idea at all.

0:07:03 > 0:07:06Don't worry. Don't worry.

0:07:06 > 0:07:09I'm sure our panel can quickly sort this out for you, Shabs.

0:07:09 > 0:07:12Panel, your debate starts now.

0:07:12 > 0:07:15I think we can confidently say, we also have no idea.

0:07:15 > 0:07:17But let's try and work it out.

0:07:17 > 0:07:20Which one of those do you think is the most likely?

0:07:20 > 0:07:22Anything goes in America now, doesn't it?

0:07:22 > 0:07:28- You couldn't make it up.- My gut instinct is that the top two...

0:07:28 > 0:07:32- Yeah.- ..are almost too silly.

0:07:32 > 0:07:37So, there is an attack by a sentient computer - is that not more

0:07:37 > 0:07:39or less the millennium bug?

0:07:39 > 0:07:42Wouldn't they already have something prepared for what was going

0:07:42 > 0:07:43to happen at the millennium,

0:07:43 > 0:07:47when suddenly sentient computers might suddenly take over the Earth?

0:07:47 > 0:07:49So wouldn't they have that in the bag, maybe?

0:07:49 > 0:07:52- There's a difference, isn't there, between...?- Sentient.

0:07:52 > 0:07:55A bug over the millennium and a sentient computer that

0:07:55 > 0:07:58- actually can decide what it's doing. - But maybe that's just terminology.

0:07:58 > 0:08:01- Legal terminology.- What do we understand by sentient computer?

0:08:01 > 0:08:03A computer that is sort of aware of what it's doing and can make

0:08:03 > 0:08:05- conscious decisions, I would imagine.- OK.

0:08:05 > 0:08:08- And they exist already? Do they? - I have...- I don't know.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11I don't know. Probably, somewhere deep underground, in an

0:08:11 > 0:08:14- underground bunker.- I think that's the one they'd go for. Probably.

0:08:14 > 0:08:19My gut would be that they may have an extra-terrestrial invasion

0:08:19 > 0:08:25- one as well because they are very, very into that idea.- Exactly.

0:08:25 > 0:08:27- I agree on that. - They take that a lot more seriously

0:08:27 > 0:08:30in America than, say, we do here.

0:08:30 > 0:08:33And yet, I know you sort of dismissed the zombie pandemic

0:08:33 > 0:08:37- thing, but...- I don't want to think that the US Government have

0:08:37 > 0:08:43a plan if corpses can come back to life and try to feast on brains.

0:08:43 > 0:08:47You make a very strong point. An extra-terrestrial thing,

0:08:47 > 0:08:50you can imagine people sitting round a table and thinking - what are we

0:08:50 > 0:08:54going to do when the guys with green heads come and point guns at us?

0:08:54 > 0:08:57Or whatever happens. How do we deal with that? Where do we go?

0:08:57 > 0:09:00Where do we take the President? Where do we take the First Lady?

0:09:00 > 0:09:03Yeah. I'm going to go with you and I'm

0:09:03 > 0:09:06- completely...- Extra-terrestrials. - I'm with you. I'm with you.- OK.

0:09:06 > 0:09:09We are going to go with the most likely being

0:09:09 > 0:09:12an extra-terrestrial invasion.

0:09:13 > 0:09:17So, Shabs, we now know that our panel don't have

0:09:17 > 0:09:21a clue about this either. LAUGHTER

0:09:21 > 0:09:24Anything in there to fire anything for you?

0:09:24 > 0:09:26You know, what the panel have selected,

0:09:26 > 0:09:30an extra-terrestrial invasion, can, in the US minds, it can happen.

0:09:30 > 0:09:32You know, it's a possibility.

0:09:32 > 0:09:37An attack by a sentient computer is probably more of a realistic answer.

0:09:37 > 0:09:41- So?- So, I've confused myself even more.

0:09:41 > 0:09:43Go for the zombies!

0:09:43 > 0:09:46- SHABS:- OK, let's go for an attack

0:09:46 > 0:09:49- by sentient computers, please.- OK.

0:09:49 > 0:09:51You've gone against the panel,

0:09:51 > 0:09:55who believe that it's an extra-terrestrial invasion.

0:09:55 > 0:09:59For £200, the correct answer is...

0:10:05 > 0:10:07..a zombie pandemic.

0:10:07 > 0:10:08No!

0:10:08 > 0:10:11I said go for the zombies!

0:10:11 > 0:10:13- No!- I'm so sorry!

0:10:13 > 0:10:17- No way!- You could not make it up! - I kid you not!

0:10:17 > 0:10:21- The page is called zombie preparedness.- Wow!

0:10:21 > 0:10:27It appears that it is less than 100% serious. The website states,

0:10:27 > 0:10:30"As it turns out, what first began as a tongue-in-cheek campaign to

0:10:30 > 0:10:33"engage new audiences in preparedness messages,

0:10:33 > 0:10:36"it has proven to be a very effective platform."

0:10:36 > 0:10:39- And so they decided to keep it. - There you go.

0:10:39 > 0:10:41Here comes your next question.

0:10:46 > 0:10:48Jennie...! LAUGHTER

0:11:05 > 0:11:08I think, and Jennie's probably going to tell

0:11:08 > 0:11:11me off about this if I get this wrong,

0:11:11 > 0:11:15- but I think it's Anne, Princess Royal.- OK, you think it's Anne.

0:11:15 > 0:11:16I think.

0:11:16 > 0:11:19Well, look, it doesn't really matter what you think because,

0:11:19 > 0:11:22I mean, the panel will clearly sort this out very, very quickly.

0:11:22 > 0:11:25- Panel, your debate starts now. - I might be in the central area here,

0:11:25 > 0:11:27but I think we should get the Bond involved!

0:11:27 > 0:11:29Completely.

0:11:29 > 0:11:34- Well, um, we all know that Diana married very young.- Was she 20?

0:11:34 > 0:11:36- 19, 20?- She was 19.

0:11:36 > 0:11:40Yeah, 19, just going on 20, is what my memory of it is.

0:11:40 > 0:11:44Birthday's end of July and she married at the beginning of July?

0:11:44 > 0:11:47And I think it was 19, going on 20, or is it 20, going on...?

0:11:47 > 0:11:49I think it was 19, going on 20.

0:11:49 > 0:11:52I think she was 19 because I think that it's an age which feels

0:11:52 > 0:11:54- very young now.- Yeah.

0:11:54 > 0:11:56Yeah, and I do remember at the time when the Duchess...

0:11:56 > 0:11:59You know, we had all that pomp and ceremony when

0:11:59 > 0:12:01the Duchess of Cambridge got married.

0:12:01 > 0:12:04I remember them saying she was quite old for a royal bride.

0:12:04 > 0:12:08- She went through university.- They had lived together for ten years.

0:12:08 > 0:12:10She was, like, 29. 29 or something, was she?

0:12:10 > 0:12:12About 27, 28, something like that.

0:12:12 > 0:12:14- Definitely not the Duchess of Cambridge.- OK.

0:12:14 > 0:12:16So, let's discount that one. We're down to three.

0:12:16 > 0:12:19I have no idea how old the Queen...

0:12:19 > 0:12:22She was married before she was crowned, wasn't she?

0:12:22 > 0:12:26- Yes, she was married in 1947, on November 20th.- OK.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29Shabs, you could not have a better person on the panel here,

0:12:29 > 0:12:32- by the way. - She was born in April 1926,

0:12:32 > 0:12:36so she was 21 and a half when she got married.

0:12:36 > 0:12:38OK, so older than Princess Diana.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41- So it's down to Anne or Diana.- Yeah.

0:12:41 > 0:12:46- Well, Anne, I'm pretty sure she was 22 or 23 when she got married.- OK.

0:12:46 > 0:12:48Anne. Duchess of Cambridge, we know, was older.

0:12:48 > 0:12:53Diana was 19, I think, going on 20, possibly 20, 21. I think 19.

0:12:53 > 0:12:54- I think 19.- Yeah.

0:12:54 > 0:12:5919. So Anne, 22-23, and Elizabeth, 21 and a half.

0:12:59 > 0:13:03- Never doubt the royal correspondent. - And if it's wrong, I'm leaving.

0:13:03 > 0:13:05- You do the rest of the show on your own.- You're retiring.

0:13:05 > 0:13:09Forever. OK, this is big. Shabs, this is big pressure.

0:13:09 > 0:13:12We are fully in Team Bond and we think you can confidently say

0:13:12 > 0:13:14the answer is Princess Diana.

0:13:16 > 0:13:20No pressure on Jennie here(!) They are going for Princess Diana.

0:13:20 > 0:13:23Given the faith I have in my panel,

0:13:23 > 0:13:26and the confidence that I have in Jennie, I'll go with Princess Diana.

0:13:28 > 0:13:33OK, you're going with the panel. For £200, did she marry youngest?

0:13:39 > 0:13:42She did. APPLAUSE

0:13:42 > 0:13:43Very well done.

0:13:43 > 0:13:46- Very well played.- I'm glad I listened.- Very well played.

0:13:46 > 0:13:49Princess Anne was 23 years old whenever she married her

0:13:49 > 0:13:51first husband, Captain Mark Phillips.

0:13:51 > 0:13:56Princess Diana was 20 when she got married. Charles was 32.

0:13:56 > 0:13:59Queen Elizabeth II was 21 when she got married.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02The Duchess of Cambridge was 29 when she got married.

0:14:02 > 0:14:04Very well played, panel.

0:14:04 > 0:14:07Very well done, Shabs. Another £200 into your prize pot.

0:14:07 > 0:14:09You're up to £400.

0:14:09 > 0:14:11APPLAUSE

0:14:11 > 0:14:14OK, here comes the final question in this round.

0:14:33 > 0:14:38- I will probably go for fish scales. - Any particular reason?

0:14:38 > 0:14:41Because I'm hoping I've never tasted carmine that

0:14:41 > 0:14:43- has the other stuff in it.- OK.

0:14:43 > 0:14:46Based on the fact that you're hoping that it doesn't taste of the

0:14:46 > 0:14:49other three, I mean, it's as good a reasoning as any.

0:14:49 > 0:14:51Panel, can you bring anything to this?

0:14:51 > 0:14:53- Your debate starts now. - Food critic...?

0:14:56 > 0:15:01I remember my brother dyeing his hair red in the '70s cos

0:15:01 > 0:15:06he was a punk and he dyed it with red food colouring

0:15:06 > 0:15:10that you would use to put icing on a cake.

0:15:10 > 0:15:12I seem to remember there being

0:15:12 > 0:15:15some huge argument that red food colouring is made

0:15:15 > 0:15:21from crushed ants, or insects. Is it not cochineal?

0:15:21 > 0:15:25- Yes.- Is cochineal... - Beetles, I think, isn't it?

0:15:25 > 0:15:26..not insects?

0:15:26 > 0:15:28And does cochineal... I don't know what

0:15:28 > 0:15:30carmine is, I've never heard that word,

0:15:30 > 0:15:35but I seem to remember red beetles, insects, food colouring.

0:15:35 > 0:15:37My reasoning is very different to food dye.

0:15:37 > 0:15:39- Go on.- On Saturday kitchen,

0:15:39 > 0:15:45- I'm sure I remember James Martin making somebody's food hell.- Yes.

0:15:45 > 0:15:48They made it red and the reason it was their food hell is because they

0:15:48 > 0:15:51hate insects and insects was used in the dye to make the food colouring.

0:15:51 > 0:15:55- Yes.- Right. Insects are quite nice, actually.

0:15:55 > 0:15:57I've eaten quite a few in the jungle, this and that, you know?

0:15:57 > 0:16:00Maggots and stick insects. That was particularly delicious.

0:16:00 > 0:16:02- Any red ones?- No, no.

0:16:02 > 0:16:05All very crunchy, but I certainly, instinctively, went straight

0:16:05 > 0:16:09- for insects because I think it is a kind of beetle.- Yeah.

0:16:09 > 0:16:10It's revolting really, but...

0:16:10 > 0:16:13So for three different reasons, we all think it's insects.

0:16:13 > 0:16:15- It's not going to be animal droppings, is it?- No.

0:16:15 > 0:16:17We've got the triple triangle of power here.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19We have got hair dye,

0:16:19 > 0:16:22we've got beetle knowledge and we've got Saturday Kitchen.

0:16:22 > 0:16:25With those three, Shabs, coming together, you cannot go wrong.

0:16:25 > 0:16:28It is, we can say with some degree of confidence, insects.

0:16:29 > 0:16:32They think it's insects.

0:16:32 > 0:16:35I think it's sufficient to say,

0:16:35 > 0:16:39that based on what the panel have said, I will go with insects.

0:16:40 > 0:16:47You're going with the panel. Is carmine made from insects, for £200?

0:16:53 > 0:16:55- Yes!- It's the correct answer!

0:16:55 > 0:16:58Very well done. Well played.

0:16:58 > 0:17:01Carmine is used in pork sausages, in pies,

0:17:01 > 0:17:05in dried fish and shrimp, sweets, pills, jams,

0:17:05 > 0:17:09lipstick and rouge and, Grace, it is also used in hair dye.

0:17:09 > 0:17:12- Thank your brother. Thank your brother.- Yeah.

0:17:12 > 0:17:14Very good all-round knowledge. Well done, Shabs.

0:17:14 > 0:17:19- It means at the end of Round One, you are up to £600.- Thank you.

0:17:21 > 0:17:23Let's see how they cope with pictures.

0:17:23 > 0:17:26It's time for Round Two. APPLAUSE

0:17:28 > 0:17:30OK, Shabs, Round Two is our picture round.

0:17:30 > 0:17:33We need you to put three pictures in the correct order.

0:17:33 > 0:17:36Three questions in this round, £300 for each correct answer,

0:17:36 > 0:17:41a possible 900 up for grabs. Here comes your first one.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03I'm going to pass this over to the panel, Paddy.

0:18:03 > 0:18:05Is that because you know this, Shabs,

0:18:05 > 0:18:08or is this because you've no tennis knowledge whatsoever?

0:18:08 > 0:18:10I have no tennis knowledge whatsoever!

0:18:10 > 0:18:13OK, panel, let's see if we can sort this out for Shabs.

0:18:13 > 0:18:14Your debate starts now.

0:18:14 > 0:18:16OK. You love your tennis, don't you?

0:18:16 > 0:18:18I absolutely love tennis, addicted to it, listen to it,

0:18:18 > 0:18:20watch it whenever I can.

0:18:20 > 0:18:24And I think this is going to be very close between the three of them.

0:18:24 > 0:18:27- Grace?- Oh, absolutely in doubt.

0:18:27 > 0:18:30I have not as much knowledge as you two on this.

0:18:30 > 0:18:33The only thing I know is that how gorgeous Bjorn Borg was

0:18:33 > 0:18:35during the '70s, to me.

0:18:35 > 0:18:38I mean, if I was to put them in order of attractiveness,

0:18:38 > 0:18:40I would be completely useful to you.

0:18:40 > 0:18:43Well, I tell you what, I think you put them in order of

0:18:43 > 0:18:44attractiveness and I'll tell you whether...

0:18:44 > 0:18:47- I've interviewed all three of these. - All right.- For various reasons.

0:18:47 > 0:18:49I need to think about it. Bjorn, then John, then Jimmy.

0:18:49 > 0:18:51OK, so the most attractive there.

0:18:51 > 0:18:55And that... But I think, bizarrely, that that is actually the right

0:18:55 > 0:18:58order for the answer, because, right,

0:18:58 > 0:19:01I think, I went to the launch of his

0:19:01 > 0:19:05- pant range.- Yeah.- To interview him, not because I liked the pants.

0:19:05 > 0:19:06And there was a big banner

0:19:06 > 0:19:09- that said, "Five-time Wimbledon champion."- OK.

0:19:09 > 0:19:12I distinctly remember it, so I think he's won it five times.

0:19:12 > 0:19:14He should've won it a lot more than he did.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16I think McEnroe, either four or three.

0:19:16 > 0:19:20I think three, but definitely not five, and Connors, I think, won two.

0:19:20 > 0:19:21- OK.- You're so confident.

0:19:21 > 0:19:24I'm quietly confident that we're going to put them in the

0:19:24 > 0:19:28order that Grace finds them the most attractive. There we go.

0:19:28 > 0:19:32Connors, McEnroe, Borg is the answer, we believe.

0:19:33 > 0:19:37OK. So we've basically played Snog, Marry, Avoid.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40They're going for Jimmy Connors with the fewest,

0:19:40 > 0:19:43then John McEnroe, then Bjorn Borg.

0:19:43 > 0:19:44I think I'm going to go with the panel.

0:19:46 > 0:19:50- OK. You've pretty much no tennis knowledge yourself.- Whatsoever.

0:19:50 > 0:19:52- So you're going with the panel. - I'm going with the panel.

0:19:52 > 0:19:56For £300, starting with the fewest titles, going up to the most.

0:19:57 > 0:20:00Is that the correct order?

0:20:04 > 0:20:05Yes!

0:20:08 > 0:20:12High five it. It's that time in the quiz show. There you go.

0:20:12 > 0:20:14Very well played.

0:20:14 > 0:20:17And, I mean, purely based on attractiveness, Grace,

0:20:17 > 0:20:19you managed to sort this out.

0:20:19 > 0:20:24Connors won two in 1974 and 1982, you were right about that.

0:20:24 > 0:20:28- McEnroe has three wins.- OK. - '81, '83, '84.

0:20:28 > 0:20:33And Borg won five in a row from '76 through to 1980 inclusive.

0:20:33 > 0:20:35Very well done, panel.

0:20:35 > 0:20:39£300 into your prize pot, Shabs, you're now up to £900.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41APPLAUSE

0:20:41 > 0:20:44Let's have a look at your second picture question.

0:21:06 > 0:21:09Classic literature, Shabs. Your first thought would be?

0:21:09 > 0:21:10Our Mutual Friend...

0:21:12 > 0:21:16- ..Jane Eyre, and Frankenstein. - OK, hold that thought.

0:21:16 > 0:21:20Panel, can we bring anything to this? Your debate starts now.

0:21:20 > 0:21:25- How embarrassing.- Yes, I feel devoid of...all knowledge.

0:21:25 > 0:21:29- No, I think that Shabs was actually right.- What did Shabs say?

0:21:29 > 0:21:31I think Shabs said... So there was Charles Dickens...

0:21:31 > 0:21:32Would be the earliest.

0:21:32 > 0:21:36- I think that we all have a hunch he's the earliest.- OK.

0:21:36 > 0:21:40Charles Dickens, was that not 18th century?

0:21:40 > 0:21:4319th century?

0:21:43 > 0:21:47- I would say 1800s, maybe.- I've been to his house in Portsmouth.

0:21:47 > 0:21:49Oh, that's a big help. What did you learn?

0:21:49 > 0:21:51- I dressed up like Charles Dickens. - Right.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54I've got a degree in English literature. This is so embarrassing.

0:21:54 > 0:22:00- I wore a hat. I did wear a hat. - To me that's first.- OK.

0:22:00 > 0:22:03And then I'm pretty sure that's kind of turn of the century.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05And what about Jane Eyre?

0:22:05 > 0:22:11Maybe, I've just watched Sally Wainwright's To Walk...

0:22:11 > 0:22:13The whole drama about that

0:22:13 > 0:22:17and now I can't remember when that was published.

0:22:17 > 0:22:19And I'm also thinking about the fact that...

0:22:21 > 0:22:25..Mary Shelley published that under her real name,

0:22:25 > 0:22:28whereas Charlotte Bronte couldn't, because she was a woman,

0:22:28 > 0:22:32so it had to be under the name of Currer Bell, so...

0:22:32 > 0:22:34I think that.

0:22:34 > 0:22:37Does that make... Am I making... Am I sounding logical?

0:22:37 > 0:22:39- Listen, you've clearly got the knowledge there.- Right.

0:22:39 > 0:22:42- We're going in this order. - We're going to go, in order,

0:22:42 > 0:22:46we're going to go with Mr Dickens as the earliest,

0:22:46 > 0:22:49Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte in the middle,

0:22:49 > 0:22:52and Mary Shelley's Frankenstein at the end.

0:22:54 > 0:22:58Any of that convincing? Panel actually agreeing with you on this.

0:22:58 > 0:23:00That's a first.

0:23:00 > 0:23:05Based on what the panel said, very logical and I will stick

0:23:05 > 0:23:08to my original answer and agree with the panel.

0:23:08 > 0:23:10OK. It was your original thought.

0:23:10 > 0:23:13You think the panel has given you enough to back that up.

0:23:13 > 0:23:15For £300, is that the correct order?

0:23:20 > 0:23:24- Oh!- It's the wrong order.

0:23:24 > 0:23:27- Wow.- I'm so sorry.

0:23:27 > 0:23:30- Let's have a look at the right order.- I feel bad.

0:23:32 > 0:23:34Wow.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37- Frankenstein published first. - Oh, really?

0:23:37 > 0:23:41Then Jane Eyre and then Our Mutual Friend.

0:23:41 > 0:23:44- Oh, dear.- Well,

0:23:44 > 0:23:48Frankenstein was written by Mary Shelley and published in 1818.

0:23:48 > 0:23:51- Wow!- The full title,

0:23:51 > 0:23:54Frankenstein - Or The Modern Prometheus. Jane Eyre was written

0:23:54 > 0:23:58under Charlotte Bronte's pseudonym, Currer Bell.

0:23:58 > 0:24:01It was first published in 1847.

0:24:01 > 0:24:04Our Mutual Friend was written by Charles Dickens and first

0:24:04 > 0:24:10published in serial form, 1864-65, and in book form in 1865.

0:24:10 > 0:24:14It was Dickens' last completed novel.

0:24:14 > 0:24:17OK, panel, tough luck on that. Shabs, tough luck.

0:24:17 > 0:24:19I'm afraid no money added to the price pot,

0:24:19 > 0:24:22but still one more picture question to go in this round.

0:24:22 > 0:24:23Here it comes.

0:24:40 > 0:24:45- Let's see what the panel has to say. - And that means?

0:24:45 > 0:24:48And that means I think I know what the answer is.

0:24:48 > 0:24:49Ah! He thinks he does.

0:24:49 > 0:24:52OK, panel, your debate starts now.

0:24:52 > 0:24:55- OK.- I've never seen a Batman film.

0:24:55 > 0:24:59- Excellent.- And neither have I. - Excellent.- Really?- Never seen one.

0:24:59 > 0:25:03- Just not my bag, I'm afraid. - I have seen them all.- Have you?

0:25:03 > 0:25:05Which did you see first?

0:25:05 > 0:25:08- Absolutely no idea. - So they're rom-coms, right?

0:25:08 > 0:25:10LAUGHTER

0:25:10 > 0:25:16I've got vague... Michael Keaton had a ridiculously low voice.

0:25:16 > 0:25:19Again, that's very unhelpful, but I remember he had a low...

0:25:19 > 0:25:21It's a detail.

0:25:21 > 0:25:23I've got memories of Val Kilmer doing Batman years ago.

0:25:23 > 0:25:27My gut instinct from looking at this is it seems like an awfully

0:25:27 > 0:25:32long time since Val Kilmer was... would be the kind of person that

0:25:32 > 0:25:35- got one of these enormous roles. - I'm with you.

0:25:35 > 0:25:38Again, I've seen them all, but I can't remember.

0:25:38 > 0:25:40I think Val Kilmer, probably, I would say, the earliest.

0:25:40 > 0:25:43Again, if Shabs has got a better idea than us, that'd be great.

0:25:43 > 0:25:45Clooney the latest, do you think?

0:25:45 > 0:25:47Well, again, looking at the picture...

0:25:47 > 0:25:52- I don't remember him ever being... - He was quite funny as Batman.

0:25:52 > 0:25:54I think, based on no knowledge, never seen a film,

0:25:54 > 0:25:57I'd put Kilmer, Keaton and then Clooney.

0:25:57 > 0:26:00Well, listen, last time, you put them in order of the most

0:26:00 > 0:26:02attractive. Do you want to give that...?

0:26:02 > 0:26:04It worked with the tennis players.

0:26:04 > 0:26:07So we're going to go there, there and there, do we think? Do we?

0:26:07 > 0:26:11- I don't know.- Kilmer, Keaton, Clooney?- Never seen one.

0:26:11 > 0:26:14- What order would you do?- This. - You're happy with that?- Yeah.

0:26:14 > 0:26:19I think together we've produced an incredible answer for you, Shabs,

0:26:19 > 0:26:23and we're going to go with Val Kilmer first to play Batman,

0:26:23 > 0:26:27Michael Keaton and his deep voice second to play Batman,

0:26:27 > 0:26:30and the last fella we're going to go with is gorgeous George.

0:26:31 > 0:26:33Dan claims they've gone for an incredible answer,

0:26:33 > 0:26:39in the true sense of the word incredible, ie, maybe not credible.

0:26:39 > 0:26:42Prior to the discussion, from the panel, I would've said

0:26:42 > 0:26:47Michael, Val, then George,

0:26:47 > 0:26:49but I am going to go with the panel's decision.

0:26:49 > 0:26:54- You're going to go with the panel? - I'm going to go with the panel.- OK.

0:26:54 > 0:26:57For £300, is that the correct order?

0:26:59 > 0:27:01(I'm holding my breath.)

0:27:02 > 0:27:08It's the wrong order! Shabs, let's have a look.

0:27:08 > 0:27:11- The correct order...- Oh, Shabs.

0:27:11 > 0:27:15Oh! You should've gone with your first thought.

0:27:15 > 0:27:20Michael Keaton, then Val Kilmer, then George Clooney.

0:27:20 > 0:27:23Michael Keaton played Batman in 1989.

0:27:23 > 0:27:27He also played him again in 1992.

0:27:27 > 0:27:31Then Val Kilmer played the Caped Crusader in Batman Forever

0:27:31 > 0:27:35in 1995, and then George Clooney played him in Batman And Robin

0:27:35 > 0:27:40- in 1997 alongside Chris O'Donnell. - A collective apology.

0:27:40 > 0:27:41- Sorry.- There we go.

0:27:41 > 0:27:43Nothing for that one, Shabs.

0:27:43 > 0:27:45It means at the end of Round Two, you're on £900.

0:27:45 > 0:27:48APPLAUSE

0:27:50 > 0:27:54There's still £1,500 up for grabs as we play Round Three.

0:27:57 > 0:28:01OK, Shabs, in this round you will face questions that contain three

0:28:01 > 0:28:03statements, about a person, a place or a thing.

0:28:03 > 0:28:04Only one of them is true.

0:28:04 > 0:28:08We need you to find that true statement. Because it's the final

0:28:08 > 0:28:11round, £500 up for grabs for each correct answer, a possible 1,500,

0:28:11 > 0:28:14so plenty of chances to get your prize pot up.

0:28:14 > 0:28:16Here comes your first question.

0:28:37 > 0:28:39I'm going to go for a wild guess,

0:28:39 > 0:28:41and I'm going to go for...B.

0:28:42 > 0:28:44You think B.

0:28:44 > 0:28:47And by looking at the blank looks on our panel's faces,

0:28:47 > 0:28:49they may also be going for a blind guess.

0:28:49 > 0:28:51Your debate starts now.

0:28:51 > 0:28:53This is the purpose of this programme, isn't it?

0:28:53 > 0:28:55We've got to try and work this one out for Shabs.

0:28:55 > 0:28:57OK, let's go wild stab in the dark.

0:28:57 > 0:28:59Which one would you go for, just off the top of your...noggin?

0:28:59 > 0:29:02- I would go for B as well, 2061. - OK. Me too.

0:29:02 > 0:29:06I would as well and I think that's because the last time

0:29:06 > 0:29:08I heard that mentioned,

0:29:08 > 0:29:09Halley's Comet mentioned,

0:29:09 > 0:29:14I remember thinking I wouldn't be around.

0:29:14 > 0:29:17Unlikely to have appeared twice, perhaps, during anyone's lifetime.

0:29:17 > 0:29:20Yeah, unless you're ludicrously old, but then, I'm thinking about that,

0:29:20 > 0:29:24because maybe that's... And why it's named after him, yeah.

0:29:24 > 0:29:27- That's an awfully good point. - Because he was the first person

0:29:27 > 0:29:29to see it and then the second time, he named it.

0:29:29 > 0:29:32- "I've seen it twice, it's mine." - That's terribly logical.

0:29:32 > 0:29:36Halley's Comet is in the Bayeux Tapestry, isn't it?

0:29:36 > 0:29:40- Oh, hello. Here we go. Where has that come from?- And that's...

0:29:40 > 0:29:43Is that not around 1066?

0:29:43 > 0:29:46- That would mean it's not right, then.- Yeah.

0:29:46 > 0:29:50If it is, then that was before, so that wouldn't be right. Ah-ha!

0:29:50 > 0:29:54So we can discount for actual historical reasons rather than

0:29:54 > 0:29:55just the fact that it's a round year.

0:29:55 > 0:29:58It doesn't say, "It first appeared," it just says, "It appeared."

0:29:58 > 0:30:00Oh, yeah, that's true.

0:30:00 > 0:30:02Often, my issue is reading the question.

0:30:02 > 0:30:03I...

0:30:03 > 0:30:07I think that the first one seems a bit strange to me.

0:30:07 > 0:30:09I still suggest that...

0:30:09 > 0:30:12- I think that our gut instinct was... - Yeah, go with the gut.

0:30:12 > 0:30:15..was B, and we...

0:30:15 > 0:30:18- The triple triangle of power... - Once that comes, you can't...

0:30:18 > 0:30:20And Shabs thought that, too.

0:30:20 > 0:30:22The square of destiny.

0:30:22 > 0:30:23LAUGHTER

0:30:23 > 0:30:25We form... Listen, that... You've convinced me.

0:30:25 > 0:30:29- The square of certainty.- Yes.

0:30:29 > 0:30:32The square of certainty and destiny has spoken, Shabs.

0:30:32 > 0:30:35And we think, along with you, that Halley's Comet

0:30:35 > 0:30:37will appear next in 2061.

0:30:39 > 0:30:41What do you think?

0:30:41 > 0:30:43I'm going to go with my gut feeling.

0:30:43 > 0:30:46And I'm going to stick to B and agree with the... What was it?

0:30:46 > 0:30:47The square...?

0:30:47 > 0:30:50- The square of certainty. - The square of certainty.

0:30:50 > 0:30:52- So you're going with your gut? - Going with my gut.

0:30:52 > 0:30:54You're going with the panel,

0:30:54 > 0:30:57even though the panel have got the last two questions wrong?

0:30:57 > 0:30:59- I'm going to go with B. - OK, you're going with B.

0:31:00 > 0:31:04It is expected to appear again around 2061.

0:31:05 > 0:31:08For £500, is that the true statement?

0:31:11 > 0:31:14CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:31:14 > 0:31:16The square...has spoken!

0:31:16 > 0:31:18We're back!

0:31:20 > 0:31:23- Very well played. Very well played. - We really needed that.

0:31:23 > 0:31:24We needed that so much.

0:31:24 > 0:31:28The comet returns roughly every 75 years.

0:31:28 > 0:31:31It famously appeared in 1066

0:31:31 > 0:31:34and IS depicted in the Bayeux Tapestry.

0:31:34 > 0:31:36Where on earth did that come from?

0:31:36 > 0:31:37Good knowledge.

0:31:37 > 0:31:40But wasn't seen again until 1145.

0:31:40 > 0:31:43We're back on track, £500 into the prize pot, you are up to £1,400.

0:31:43 > 0:31:45APPLAUSE

0:31:49 > 0:31:52OK, here comes your next question, for £500.

0:32:18 > 0:32:20Let's see what the panel have to say.

0:32:20 > 0:32:22Let's see what the panel have to say about this.

0:32:22 > 0:32:24Panel, can you remember the '90s?

0:32:24 > 0:32:26Your debate starts now.

0:32:27 > 0:32:29I loved Oasis.

0:32:29 > 0:32:30I did love Oasis.

0:32:30 > 0:32:32I had a bit of time for Blur as well.

0:32:32 > 0:32:34Remember they had that big chart battle

0:32:34 > 0:32:36and Blur won - Country House was number one?

0:32:36 > 0:32:40Hang on, "Blur had more UK number one singles than them..."

0:32:40 > 0:32:42See, that seems more feasible,

0:32:42 > 0:32:45because Blur, I think, were just more prolific

0:32:45 > 0:32:48and went on for longer,

0:32:48 > 0:32:51and didn't fall out with each other.

0:32:51 > 0:32:53- That's a good point.- Let's see - Country House, Charming Man...

0:32:53 > 0:32:56- You could go through loads of them from Blur.- Girls...- Yeah.- Hang on.

0:32:56 > 0:33:00The third one, unless I am being very silly,

0:33:00 > 0:33:02I can't think of anything that's an anagram.

0:33:02 > 0:33:04I can't.

0:33:04 > 0:33:07I always thought, was it Cigarettes and Alcohol, they had?

0:33:07 > 0:33:10- I don't know. That's definitely not, is it?- No.

0:33:10 > 0:33:11They don't speak at all to each other now.

0:33:11 > 0:33:13I'd have thought that I'd have heard

0:33:13 > 0:33:15something about them having birthdays

0:33:15 > 0:33:17and not speaking to each other on their birthdays.

0:33:17 > 0:33:19- Yeah.- Yeah, that would have come up.

0:33:19 > 0:33:20OK. All right.

0:33:20 > 0:33:24By a method of sort of strange musical deduction,

0:33:24 > 0:33:26I think we are going to go with Blur

0:33:26 > 0:33:28had more UK number one singles

0:33:28 > 0:33:31than Oasis in the 1990s.

0:33:31 > 0:33:32We believe that to be the case.

0:33:35 > 0:33:37OK, the panel going for A.

0:33:37 > 0:33:39- Let's go for A. - You're going to go for A?

0:33:39 > 0:33:41- Let's go for A.- OK.

0:33:42 > 0:33:45Did Blur have more UK number one singles

0:33:45 > 0:33:48than Oasis in the '90s, for £500?

0:33:48 > 0:33:50The correct statement is...

0:33:54 > 0:33:55GROANING

0:33:55 > 0:33:56Oh, we couldn't do the anagram.

0:33:56 > 0:33:59- You couldn't do the anagram. - What was it?

0:33:59 > 0:34:00Supersonic.

0:34:00 > 0:34:02- Supersonic?- Oh, no.- Supersonic!

0:34:02 > 0:34:04PANEL LAUGH

0:34:04 > 0:34:07Noel was born on 29 May, 1967,

0:34:07 > 0:34:11Liam was born on 21 September, 1972.

0:34:11 > 0:34:14Oasis had four UK number ones.

0:34:14 > 0:34:16Blur, despite winning that head-to-head battle

0:34:16 > 0:34:19with Country House, they only had two number ones...

0:34:19 > 0:34:22- They weren't number ones. - ..in the 1990s.

0:34:22 > 0:34:24OK, guys, I'm afraid nothing for that.

0:34:24 > 0:34:28No money there. Still £500 up for grabs.

0:34:28 > 0:34:30Here is your final question of this round.

0:34:51 > 0:34:53- SHABS:- One thing I can say is, I don't think B's right.

0:34:53 > 0:34:55So let's see what these guys have to say.

0:34:55 > 0:34:57OK, you think you can eliminate B.

0:34:57 > 0:34:59Panel, anything on this?

0:34:59 > 0:35:00Your debate starts now.

0:35:02 > 0:35:04My confidence has completely gone.

0:35:04 > 0:35:05Would...?

0:35:05 > 0:35:09They all sound absolutely feasible.

0:35:09 > 0:35:10OK, why would there be no W?

0:35:10 > 0:35:14Imagine if you are... Does it feel too much like an M?

0:35:14 > 0:35:17- But Braille isn't just a representation of...- No.

0:35:17 > 0:35:20Is it completely different symbols?

0:35:20 > 0:35:22I don't really know.

0:35:22 > 0:35:23I've seen it many times.

0:35:24 > 0:35:25- Yeah...- I'm trying to think if

0:35:25 > 0:35:28I've seen a hand going that way or that way.

0:35:28 > 0:35:30- You and I both did that instinctively.- Yeah, right-to-left.

0:35:32 > 0:35:35Was it Louis Braille - was that the name of the...?

0:35:35 > 0:35:37- I think so. - Yes, that sounds right.

0:35:37 > 0:35:39- OK, I've got vague...- Hang on.

0:35:39 > 0:35:42I don't want to throw anything out there that makes me look stupid.

0:35:42 > 0:35:44- Wasn't Louis Braille...? - Was it not?

0:35:44 > 0:35:46Did he not have sight impairment?

0:35:46 > 0:35:48- That's what I'm thinking.- Yes.

0:35:48 > 0:35:53- I'm thinking that Braille himself wasn't 20-20.- Yeah.

0:35:53 > 0:35:57- I'm glad you had that same thought, cos that was in my head.- Yeah.

0:35:57 > 0:35:59- Was he French or was he English? - I think he's French.

0:35:59 > 0:36:00So we think he might be French.

0:36:00 > 0:36:03So why would the French not like Ws?

0:36:03 > 0:36:05Yeah, good point.

0:36:05 > 0:36:08When I've seen people reading Braille, it is kind of like that.

0:36:08 > 0:36:10But then, do they...? Is it like that?

0:36:10 > 0:36:12Is it both ways? What do you think?

0:36:12 > 0:36:14Why would you...? Why would you do it that way?

0:36:14 > 0:36:17Is it because most people are right-handed,

0:36:17 > 0:36:20so they would start there, rather than going there all the time?

0:36:20 > 0:36:23They would start where it was more logical?

0:36:23 > 0:36:27- I think we are less keen on the 20-20 vision, aren't we?- OK.- Yes.

0:36:27 > 0:36:31And I think the one we all went for was right-to-left.

0:36:31 > 0:36:33OK, from the pit of no knowledge,

0:36:33 > 0:36:35we think the middle one -

0:36:35 > 0:36:38Braille in English is read right-to-left

0:36:38 > 0:36:43- is the one that you should, perhaps, go for...- Possibly.- ..or avoid.

0:36:46 > 0:36:49There is a clue in the panel's level of certainty there,

0:36:49 > 0:36:50I think, Shabs.

0:36:50 > 0:36:53Anything in there to fire something for you?

0:36:53 > 0:36:55I'm going to take a risk and agree with the panel,

0:36:55 > 0:36:58because, again, it may sound silly, but it's different.

0:36:58 > 0:37:00So I'm going to go with B.

0:37:00 > 0:37:02OK, you're going with the panel.

0:37:02 > 0:37:06You think that Braille in English is read right-to-left.

0:37:08 > 0:37:09It's the final chance to put some money

0:37:09 > 0:37:11in the prize pot. For £500...

0:37:12 > 0:37:14..the correct statement is...

0:37:19 > 0:37:20AUDIENCE GASPS

0:37:20 > 0:37:23GROANING The correct statement was C.

0:37:23 > 0:37:27There was no W in the original system.

0:37:27 > 0:37:31Louis Braille lost his sight in a childhood accident.

0:37:31 > 0:37:33It was Louis Braille who invented Braille.

0:37:33 > 0:37:36There was no W in the French language

0:37:36 > 0:37:38when Braille came up with the code.

0:37:38 > 0:37:41Sorry, panel. Sorry, Shabs.

0:37:41 > 0:37:43At the end of our final round,

0:37:43 > 0:37:45your prize pot is up to £1,400.

0:37:49 > 0:37:52So it's still a tidy little sum.

0:37:52 > 0:37:54One question between you and that money.

0:37:54 > 0:37:57If you manage to win the Final Debate today, what do you think?

0:37:57 > 0:37:59What you fancy spending that money on?

0:37:59 > 0:38:01See, I have recently moved home.

0:38:01 > 0:38:03And...

0:38:03 > 0:38:04I want a new fish tank.

0:38:04 > 0:38:06LAUGHTER OK.

0:38:06 > 0:38:08How big would you like that fish tank to be?

0:38:08 > 0:38:10PANEL LAUGHS

0:38:10 > 0:38:13Think small, Shabs. Think small.

0:38:13 > 0:38:16- DAN:- It's minimalist. Minimalist fish tank.

0:38:16 > 0:38:18Less is more with these things.

0:38:18 > 0:38:21There is only one question between you and that cash.

0:38:21 > 0:38:23It is, of course, the Final Debate.

0:38:23 > 0:38:25In the Final Debate, there are six possible answers.

0:38:25 > 0:38:26Only three are correct.

0:38:26 > 0:38:29We need you to get all three of those answers.

0:38:29 > 0:38:31However, you won't be on your own,

0:38:31 > 0:38:35because you will have one of these fine intellects

0:38:35 > 0:38:36to help you on your quest.

0:38:36 > 0:38:39Will you be going supersonic with Grace?

0:38:39 > 0:38:41Will you be looking back in anger with Dan?

0:38:41 > 0:38:44Or do you want to roll with it and choose Jennie?

0:38:44 > 0:38:45I've made my decision.

0:38:47 > 0:38:49And the person that I'm going with...

0:38:49 > 0:38:50is...

0:38:50 > 0:38:51Dan.

0:38:51 > 0:38:54- Dan, would you please join us for the Final Debate?- Come on!

0:38:58 > 0:39:00OK, Dan, Shabs has chosen you. He is ready to go.

0:39:00 > 0:39:03- Come on, Shabs, we can do this. - This is the confidence we need.

0:39:03 > 0:39:05We've had a bad sort of 60 minutes,

0:39:05 > 0:39:07- we're going to drive through at the end here.- OK.

0:39:07 > 0:39:09Anything you're hoping to see up there?

0:39:09 > 0:39:10Anything you're hoping to avoid?

0:39:10 > 0:39:13- The subject of Braille, something to do with that.- Yes.

0:39:13 > 0:39:16- Oasis hits. - I'm hoping to see some sport.

0:39:16 > 0:39:18OK. Well, look, it is the Final Debate,

0:39:18 > 0:39:20so you do get two categories to choose from.

0:39:20 > 0:39:22Have a look at this.

0:39:22 > 0:39:24Tell me what you fancy between...

0:39:29 > 0:39:32OK, if I get Footballers wrong, this will be bad.

0:39:32 > 0:39:34I'm assuming you're going for Composers(?)

0:39:34 > 0:39:37- LAUGHTER - His choice. Shabs' choice.

0:39:37 > 0:39:38We're going to go for Footballers.

0:39:40 > 0:39:43Absolutely no pressure, Dan Walker(!)

0:39:43 > 0:39:44- Come on.- OK, here we go.

0:39:44 > 0:39:47- Think about the fish tank. - Think about fish tank.

0:39:47 > 0:39:49Best of luck. £1,400 up for grabs,

0:39:49 > 0:39:5045 seconds on the clock,

0:39:50 > 0:39:54here comes your Final Debate question about Footballers.

0:40:06 > 0:40:07Yep.

0:40:08 > 0:40:10No.

0:40:10 > 0:40:1148.

0:40:12 > 0:40:14Possibly.

0:40:14 > 0:40:17Your Final Debate starts now.

0:40:17 > 0:40:18OK, Gary Lineker, gone, 48.

0:40:18 > 0:40:21Ryan Giggs didn't get 50 for Wales.

0:40:21 > 0:40:22Robbie Keane, definitely.

0:40:26 > 0:40:28- Any thoughts?- None.

0:40:28 > 0:40:30I'm... So we need three?

0:40:30 > 0:40:31We need three answers.

0:40:31 > 0:40:32Robbie Keane is a definite.

0:40:32 > 0:40:34- Gary Lineker?- No, 48.

0:40:34 > 0:40:37Didier Drogba, Ivory Coast,

0:40:37 > 0:40:38- I would imagine, yes.- OK.

0:40:38 > 0:40:39Robbie, Didier...

0:40:39 > 0:40:41Robbie Keane, Didier Drogba...

0:40:41 > 0:40:4220 seconds.

0:40:42 > 0:40:44And then, it's one of Thierry Henry and Diego Maradona.

0:40:44 > 0:40:46I don't think Thierry Henry

0:40:46 > 0:40:48scored 50 for...France...

0:40:50 > 0:40:52..because... No, I don't think.

0:40:52 > 0:40:53I think it's probably Maradona.

0:40:53 > 0:40:54So we've got Maradona,

0:40:54 > 0:40:56- Keane and Drogba.- I think.- OK.

0:40:56 > 0:40:59OK? If I'm wrong, then I'm just going to walk off.

0:41:01 > 0:41:03OK, time is up.

0:41:03 > 0:41:04Three answers.

0:41:04 > 0:41:06Maradona, Keane and Drogba.

0:41:08 > 0:41:09OK, you know how this works, guys.

0:41:09 > 0:41:12We need all three of these to be correct.

0:41:12 > 0:41:15So you were most confident about...?

0:41:15 > 0:41:18- It was Keane.- OK, Robbie Keane.

0:41:18 > 0:41:21Has Robbie Keane scored 50 or more international goals?

0:41:21 > 0:41:22He's got loads.

0:41:23 > 0:41:25Come on, Shabs. Come on. Come on.

0:41:25 > 0:41:26Come on!

0:41:29 > 0:41:31He has! APPLAUSE

0:41:31 > 0:41:32Of course he has.

0:41:32 > 0:41:34- Let's continue the cuddle. - Come on, come on.

0:41:34 > 0:41:37Robbie Keane, Ireland's top scorer, 68 goals.

0:41:37 > 0:41:39Next one you were going for?

0:41:39 > 0:41:42- Let's go Drogba.- Let's go Drogba. - Let's go Drogba.- OK.

0:41:42 > 0:41:45You thought Drogba from the Ivory Coast

0:41:45 > 0:41:49possibly has scored 50 or more international goals.

0:41:49 > 0:41:52- We need this to be correct in order to stay in the game.- Come on, DD!

0:41:52 > 0:41:55Come on. Come on!

0:41:57 > 0:41:59Didier!

0:42:00 > 0:42:02Yes! APPLAUSE

0:42:04 > 0:42:08He has scored 65 goals for the Ivory Coast.

0:42:08 > 0:42:09- OK.- Right.

0:42:09 > 0:42:11So you completely discounted Gary Lineker,

0:42:11 > 0:42:13you completely discounted Ryan Giggs.

0:42:14 > 0:42:16You weren't sure about Thierry Henry,

0:42:16 > 0:42:18and you plumped for Maradona.

0:42:18 > 0:42:20It's all on this one.

0:42:20 > 0:42:22For £1,400...

0:42:24 > 0:42:28..has Diego Maradona scored 50 or more international goals?

0:42:30 > 0:42:31- DAN:- Diego, my friend.

0:42:31 > 0:42:33Come on!

0:42:38 > 0:42:39GROANING

0:42:39 > 0:42:41It's the wrong answer.

0:42:42 > 0:42:43- DAN:- Is it Thierry?

0:42:44 > 0:42:46- Dan, Shabs.- Oh, no.

0:42:46 > 0:42:51Maradona only scored 34 goals for Argentina.

0:42:51 > 0:42:52It was close.

0:42:52 > 0:42:54The correct answer was...

0:42:54 > 0:42:56It was Thierry Henry.

0:42:58 > 0:42:59- DAN:- Dear me!

0:42:59 > 0:43:01Thierry Henry scored 51 goals for France.

0:43:01 > 0:43:03Did he really? Oh, dear.

0:43:03 > 0:43:07One of those goals was after handling a ball against Ireland,

0:43:07 > 0:43:09which kept Ireland from going to the World Cup.

0:43:09 > 0:43:12We'll now have a minute's silence for that.

0:43:12 > 0:43:14LAUGHTER

0:43:14 > 0:43:17- I'm so, so sorry, Shabs. - I'm sorry.- Not at all.

0:43:17 > 0:43:18It was a tricky question.

0:43:18 > 0:43:19Very well played.

0:43:19 > 0:43:22Thanks for coming in, Shabs. Give it up one more time for Shabs.

0:43:22 > 0:43:23- Thank you, guys. - APPLAUSE

0:43:25 > 0:43:27- Thank you.- Thank you very much.

0:43:27 > 0:43:28That is it for Debatable.

0:43:28 > 0:43:31There is just about time for me to thank our fantastic panel today,

0:43:31 > 0:43:34to Dan Walker, to Grace Dent and Jennie Bond.

0:43:34 > 0:43:36APPLAUSE

0:43:36 > 0:43:38I do hope you have enjoyed watching.

0:43:38 > 0:43:40We will see you next time for more heated debates.

0:43:40 > 0:43:41For now, it's goodbye from me.