Episode 19

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0:00:09 > 0:00:11APPLAUSE

0:00:11 > 0:00:13Hello and welcome to Debatable

0:00:13 > 0:00:14where today one player must once again

0:00:14 > 0:00:19answer a series of tricky questions to try and walk away with a jackpot

0:00:19 > 0:00:21of over £3,000.

0:00:21 > 0:00:23As always, they're not on their own.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25They will have a panel of famous faces

0:00:25 > 0:00:27debating their way to the answers.

0:00:27 > 0:00:29Will they be able to talk the talk, though?

0:00:29 > 0:00:31That's debatable. Let's meet them.

0:00:32 > 0:00:34Straight-talking today,

0:00:34 > 0:00:35we have comedian Russell Kane,

0:00:35 > 0:00:37we have writer Germaine Greer

0:00:37 > 0:00:40and we have actress Sunetra Sarker.

0:00:40 > 0:00:44APPLAUSE

0:00:44 > 0:00:47It's a fine panel. Well-balanced, I think.

0:00:47 > 0:00:49Germaine, you're taking charge today in the middle.

0:00:49 > 0:00:50How are you feeling about that?

0:00:50 > 0:00:53I'll feel better when I've got used to doing it.

0:00:53 > 0:00:56You have two fine debaters on either side of you there.

0:00:56 > 0:01:01Russell Kane. Russell, of course, is there anything you don't know?

0:01:01 > 0:01:04Yes, any form of sport, darts through football.

0:01:04 > 0:01:06If I try and throw a dart, it goes sideways.

0:01:06 > 0:01:08If I kick a football, it goes over my head.

0:01:08 > 0:01:11I can't do anything to do with sport and I'm such an egomaniac

0:01:11 > 0:01:13I don't like stuff I'm not good at.

0:01:13 > 0:01:15Germaine, you are quite good on sport.

0:01:15 > 0:01:17I keep pretending to follow a football team

0:01:17 > 0:01:20because you have to be allowed to join the human race.

0:01:20 > 0:01:23And who do you pretend to follow?

0:01:23 > 0:01:25Arsenal.

0:01:25 > 0:01:26BOOING

0:01:26 > 0:01:28Oh.

0:01:28 > 0:01:32An Arsenal supporter in the middle seat, Sunetra,

0:01:32 > 0:01:36means the chances of the panellists actually winning today

0:01:36 > 0:01:38are quite slim.

0:01:39 > 0:01:42Living in Liverpool, you have to be a football fan.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45It's a bit like what you said. You have to be part of the human race.

0:01:45 > 0:01:46- It's the law.- Yeah.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48And there's only the choice of two teams,

0:01:48 > 0:01:50Liverpool or Liverpool Reserves.

0:01:50 > 0:01:53So, that's the choice.

0:01:53 > 0:01:57That's your panel. Let's meet today's contestant.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59It is Hazel from Leeds.

0:01:59 > 0:02:00APPLAUSE

0:02:00 > 0:02:03- How are you doing?- Very well, thanks.- Welcome to the show.

0:02:03 > 0:02:05- Thank you.- Tell us a bit about yourself.- I'm from Leeds.

0:02:05 > 0:02:07I've got an 18-year-old son.

0:02:07 > 0:02:10I work for the University of Leeds, for the medical school.

0:02:10 > 0:02:12What do you do at the medical school?

0:02:12 > 0:02:14I look after timetables for students

0:02:14 > 0:02:16who are becoming doctors in year one.

0:02:16 > 0:02:19Hazel, can I just say, the moment you said, "I look after timetables",

0:02:19 > 0:02:22you got a little bit stricter with me already. You did.

0:02:22 > 0:02:25- I can't help it.- Is everything running on time so far?

0:02:25 > 0:02:27As far as I can see, everything is fine, yeah.

0:02:27 > 0:02:28What do you do in your spare time?

0:02:28 > 0:02:30I love reading. I like gardening.

0:02:30 > 0:02:34When Jay is at home we'll watch TV together,

0:02:34 > 0:02:36being quite scathing about it -

0:02:36 > 0:02:39but we are massive, huge fans of Game Of Thrones.

0:02:39 > 0:02:41OK. So, you're taking it highbrow?

0:02:41 > 0:02:44I think that's what it is, yeah.

0:02:44 > 0:02:47What type of stuff are you hoping is going to come up today?

0:02:47 > 0:02:50Anything on literature. Films and TV I'm particularly good at.

0:02:50 > 0:02:53I was a little bit disappointed to hear how little the panel know

0:02:53 > 0:02:56about sport because that's really where I was hoping for some support.

0:02:56 > 0:02:58So, fingers crossed there is no sport.

0:02:58 > 0:03:00OK. What do you make of today's panel?

0:03:00 > 0:03:03- I think they look intelligent. - Oh, they look intelligent!

0:03:03 > 0:03:05They do, that!

0:03:05 > 0:03:08All righty. You need to pay close attention to what these guys say

0:03:08 > 0:03:09because at the end of the show

0:03:09 > 0:03:11you'll pick one for the Final Debate.

0:03:11 > 0:03:14- OK.- First, we've got to play the game.

0:03:14 > 0:03:15- Ready to go?- I am.

0:03:15 > 0:03:17Here it comes. Let's play Round 1.

0:03:19 > 0:03:22OK, Hazel. Round 1 is multiple choice.

0:03:22 > 0:03:25Each question has four possible answers.

0:03:25 > 0:03:26Only one is correct.

0:03:26 > 0:03:30Four questions in the round. Each correct answer is worth £200.

0:03:30 > 0:03:33So at the end of this round, no doubt you will have £800

0:03:33 > 0:03:35in your prize pot.

0:03:35 > 0:03:37- Fantastic.- OK, here's hoping. Let's get cracking.

0:03:57 > 0:04:00I think I would really look forward to hearing

0:04:00 > 0:04:01what the panel has got to say

0:04:01 > 0:04:04because that's not something I'm an expert on, I'm afraid.

0:04:04 > 0:04:06No doubt our panel have sunk a few cases of this

0:04:06 > 0:04:09during their time.

0:04:09 > 0:04:10The debate starts now.

0:04:10 > 0:04:12OK, Russell, what do you reckon?

0:04:12 > 0:04:17Well, if you drink it the same year it is harvested,

0:04:17 > 0:04:20the grape comes relatively late on the vine in the year,

0:04:20 > 0:04:22not much before March or April, does it?

0:04:22 > 0:04:24You aren't going to get a grape off the vine before summer

0:04:24 > 0:04:27and to tread it and get it out there...

0:04:27 > 0:04:29What do you reckon, Sunetra?

0:04:29 > 0:04:32You know what? I'm erring towards June because

0:04:32 > 0:04:35it feels like that gives it six months to get it growing

0:04:35 > 0:04:38and then six months to get it out and sold.

0:04:38 > 0:04:40Because...if you bring it out in December,

0:04:40 > 0:04:45it's not really got much life before you're into the next year.

0:04:45 > 0:04:49Let's see if we can just remember when you see the signs

0:04:49 > 0:04:54in the wine shops saying, "the Beaujolais, c'est arrive."

0:04:54 > 0:04:59It builds up its sugar in September while the soil is still warm

0:04:59 > 0:05:03and the sun still out. Then it's got to be harvested, as you say,

0:05:03 > 0:05:08and that takes time, and then it has to be fermented and drawn off.

0:05:08 > 0:05:12I'm thinking it's November that it appears in the wine shops.

0:05:12 > 0:05:16I think it's picked in June and goes out in September.

0:05:16 > 0:05:19What precludes September?

0:05:19 > 0:05:20Why can't it be September?

0:05:20 > 0:05:23Well, it can't be picked in June because it's not ripe.

0:05:23 > 0:05:25You can't make wine out of...

0:05:25 > 0:05:29In fact, in June, the grapes are tiny little buttons.

0:05:29 > 0:05:31September or November,

0:05:31 > 0:05:35but, what you've just said about June and the grapes being too tiny

0:05:35 > 0:05:37has convinced me it's November.

0:05:37 > 0:05:39That's what I'm thinking. No, maybe not.

0:05:39 > 0:05:42If you're saying it's too small in June, then when does it get picked?

0:05:42 > 0:05:45You're saying maybe August or September?

0:05:45 > 0:05:49- September.- And then it can reach the shops realistically by November.

0:05:49 > 0:05:52It's a special delivery. I mean...

0:05:52 > 0:05:56It comes very swiftly once it's been drawn off.

0:05:56 > 0:05:57OK. There is our basis.

0:05:57 > 0:06:01We've got the decision based on that, which is clever.

0:06:01 > 0:06:05Uh-oh! If it's wrong I'm for the high jump.

0:06:05 > 0:06:10So the panel has decided that it is November

0:06:10 > 0:06:13that the Beaujolais goes on sale.

0:06:14 > 0:06:20So, Hazel, both Sunetra and Russell deferring to Germaine.

0:06:20 > 0:06:23Germaine, of course, obviously knows her good French wine

0:06:23 > 0:06:24because she's an Arsenal supporter

0:06:24 > 0:06:27and that's what they drink on the terraces up there.

0:06:27 > 0:06:28That's what I've heard.

0:06:28 > 0:06:31It was good listening to the discussion.

0:06:31 > 0:06:34I did think that was a really good point about the grapes being

0:06:34 > 0:06:36too small in June,

0:06:36 > 0:06:40so I think I'm going to agree with the panel and say November.

0:06:40 > 0:06:43OK. Based on the logic of the summer in Europe,

0:06:43 > 0:06:48- you are going for November. - Yeah.

0:06:48 > 0:06:49The correct answer for £200 is...

0:06:55 > 0:06:56It is November. Well done.

0:06:58 > 0:07:00- Thank you very much. - Well done.

0:07:00 > 0:07:02Under French law -

0:07:02 > 0:07:06who knew that the French had rules and regulations about their wine?

0:07:06 > 0:07:11But they do! The wine is released precisely on the third Thursday

0:07:11 > 0:07:14in November at 12:01am.

0:07:14 > 0:07:18Just weeks after the wine's grapes have been harvested.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20OK, Hazel. Well done. Up and running.

0:07:20 > 0:07:21£200 in the prize pot.

0:07:21 > 0:07:23Fantastic.

0:07:25 > 0:07:26Question two.

0:07:48 > 0:07:51That is not something I have ever heard of,

0:07:51 > 0:07:54but I think there's somebody on the panel who might be...

0:07:54 > 0:07:57Who do you think the person on the panel may be, Hazel?

0:07:57 > 0:07:59Russell. No, I mean Germaine!

0:08:00 > 0:08:05OK. Germaine and the rest of the panel, your debate starts now.

0:08:05 > 0:08:07Oh, dear. Oh, dear.

0:08:07 > 0:08:09This is feminism GCSE.

0:08:09 > 0:08:10I've never heard of this before.

0:08:10 > 0:08:13How shocking is that?

0:08:13 > 0:08:16What I'm thinking is that they like to use the name "mirror"

0:08:16 > 0:08:20for women's magazines. So, you have a women's mirror.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22The only thing I was going to say

0:08:22 > 0:08:25was that mirror has some kind of recognition of being female

0:08:25 > 0:08:27because of the magazines, but 1903?

0:08:27 > 0:08:30I don't know which one of the newspapers started then.

0:08:30 > 0:08:32The Daily Mail is a tough one to take.

0:08:32 > 0:08:33That was run by what's-his-name?

0:08:33 > 0:08:35Lord something-or-other started it.

0:08:35 > 0:08:36Beaverbrook, isn't it?

0:08:36 > 0:08:39The other thing about the Daily Mirror

0:08:39 > 0:08:43- is it's always had a socialist connection, hasn't it?- BOTH: Yes.

0:08:43 > 0:08:47- I tend to think that women are natural socialists.- Yup.

0:08:47 > 0:08:51There could have been a paper called the Daily Star that came out in 1903

0:08:51 > 0:08:55and then, as is not uncommon with women's enterprises,

0:08:55 > 0:08:58- went stony broke and disappeared. - Mm-hm.

0:08:58 > 0:09:02That would be a hard one for us if there was this valiant little paper

0:09:02 > 0:09:05that rose and sank, this little star.

0:09:06 > 0:09:08What are we going to go for, boys and girls?

0:09:08 > 0:09:09It's got to be the Mirror. Has to be.

0:09:09 > 0:09:11- Let's try the Mirror.- It has to be.

0:09:11 > 0:09:15The panel has decided with no great certainty and great trepidation

0:09:15 > 0:09:18to go with the Daily Mirror.

0:09:19 > 0:09:22So Hazel, they've talked around a little bit of history.

0:09:22 > 0:09:25They have gone with the female magazine

0:09:25 > 0:09:27and "mirror" in the title.

0:09:27 > 0:09:31I've never heard of a paper for women run by women.

0:09:31 > 0:09:34It is a very tough one, but I think I'm going to go with the panel

0:09:34 > 0:09:36and say Daily Mirror.

0:09:36 > 0:09:38OK, you're going with the panel again.

0:09:38 > 0:09:40You are saying Daily Mirror.

0:09:40 > 0:09:45For another £200, the correct answer is...

0:09:49 > 0:09:52CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:09:52 > 0:09:55The Daily Mirror. Well played. Very well done.

0:09:55 > 0:09:58Oh, we are so happy!

0:09:58 > 0:09:59By happy you mean relieved.

0:09:59 > 0:10:01Yes.

0:10:01 > 0:10:05It was launched in 1903 by Alfred Harmsworth, later Lord Northcliffe,

0:10:05 > 0:10:10as a newspaper for women with a mainly female editorial staff,

0:10:10 > 0:10:12but, apparently, within a few months,

0:10:12 > 0:10:16it had a new editor and the so-called experiment came to an end.

0:10:16 > 0:10:20All of that means it's another 200 quid into your prize pot.

0:10:20 > 0:10:22Two out of two, you are up to £400, Hazel.

0:10:22 > 0:10:24APPLAUSE

0:10:26 > 0:10:27Here comes question three.

0:10:43 > 0:10:45Well, I wasn't looking forward to any sport questions

0:10:45 > 0:10:49and I thought that something else was going to come up there,

0:10:49 > 0:10:52so I will be very interested to hear what the panel has to say.

0:10:52 > 0:10:55The good news is our panel has great sporting expertise.

0:10:55 > 0:10:56LAUGHTER

0:10:56 > 0:10:59Panel, let's see if you can help us a little bit on this.

0:10:59 > 0:11:00Your debate starts now.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02At least they're mainstream sports, anyway.

0:11:02 > 0:11:06The irony is that piste always makes you feel like it's winter,

0:11:06 > 0:11:09because of the snow, piste, those sort of relevance.

0:11:09 > 0:11:11- It's a summer sport. - Well, the piste is the track.

0:11:11 > 0:11:13The piste is the ski jumping...

0:11:13 > 0:11:17But it's wherever you are following a track.

0:11:17 > 0:11:21- If you're off your route.- If you're off piste, you're off the track.

0:11:21 > 0:11:23Canoeing happens on water.

0:11:23 > 0:11:27I don't know that I can think of piste used for water.

0:11:27 > 0:11:31Maybe because they do slalom with canoes, don't they?

0:11:31 > 0:11:33- There is the sort of... - That is kayaking, isn't it?

0:11:33 > 0:11:34- Yeah.- Dressage.

0:11:34 > 0:11:37- That could have a piste.- Horses.

0:11:37 > 0:11:41But I've got a funny feeling that it's fencing,

0:11:41 > 0:11:45and I used to fence when I was a lass at the YWCA.

0:11:45 > 0:11:47I used to go from school.

0:11:47 > 0:11:49- I was actually the referee at the Melbourne Olympics...- Wow!

0:11:49 > 0:11:52for the fencing team in French.

0:11:52 > 0:11:54But you must have heard the word piste, then?

0:11:54 > 0:11:57Therefore, have you ever heard them saying, "they went off piste?"

0:11:57 > 0:11:58Or they were on piste?

0:11:58 > 0:12:01If you've done all that in fencing, and never heard the word piste?

0:12:01 > 0:12:03That's what I'm kind of thinking it is called in fencing.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05You were moving towards canoeing.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07Well, only because of the...

0:12:07 > 0:12:10For me, the likelihood of the skiing off piste.

0:12:10 > 0:12:14- You have to follow the track.- It is a track so you can go off piste.

0:12:14 > 0:12:18I'm worried that I can't remember it being used in fencing,

0:12:18 > 0:12:20- that's why I'm not...- I was totally with you, "I did it as a girl",

0:12:20 > 0:12:23"I was involved in the Olympics, and I don't recall the term."

0:12:23 > 0:12:25So it's probably not fencing, then.

0:12:25 > 0:12:26Surely you would remember that?

0:12:26 > 0:12:28I'm beginning to warm to canoeing

0:12:28 > 0:12:32and the fact that you go through sticks, you go through the poles.

0:12:32 > 0:12:35I'm going to say we have decided that the Summer Olympics sport

0:12:35 > 0:12:40that uses a piste is...canoeing.

0:12:40 > 0:12:43So, Hazel, you said you weren't a sports expert.

0:12:43 > 0:12:46Our panel said they weren't sports experts either,

0:12:46 > 0:12:48but Germaine used to fence as a little girl.

0:12:48 > 0:12:52She was a referee in the Melbourne Olympics, which, I mean,

0:12:52 > 0:12:53it's quite sporty to me.

0:12:53 > 0:12:55It's quite sporty.

0:12:55 > 0:12:59I can see what they're saying with the idea of a piste being a track,

0:12:59 > 0:13:02but I think that I'm not going to agree with the panel this time.

0:13:02 > 0:13:04I think I'm going to go for dressage

0:13:04 > 0:13:07because I'm thinking that it sounds French, so does piste,

0:13:07 > 0:13:10so for that reason I'm going to go for dressage.

0:13:10 > 0:13:11Hats off to that.

0:13:13 > 0:13:16OK. For £200, let's see.

0:13:16 > 0:13:17The correct answer is...

0:13:22 > 0:13:24Oh!

0:13:24 > 0:13:27- After all that.- After all that.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30- Your first thought...- Was the right one.- ..right one, Germaine.

0:13:30 > 0:13:34No money there, but there's still plenty of time and you're still on

0:13:34 > 0:13:35£400.

0:13:39 > 0:13:41Final question in this round.

0:13:41 > 0:13:43Let's see what we can do with this one. Here we go.

0:14:02 > 0:14:05That's difficult. I've heard of everybody except EB White,

0:14:05 > 0:14:06and I'm sure I would remember

0:14:06 > 0:14:09if I heard somebody's middle name was Boynton.

0:14:09 > 0:14:11So I could really do with the panel's help.

0:14:11 > 0:14:14- It sounds very Yorkshire.- Do you think so?- It sounds a bit Leeds.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17I don't know anybody with the middle name Boynton from Leeds.

0:14:17 > 0:14:22Well, let's turn this over to our very well-read panel.

0:14:22 > 0:14:24Your debate starts now.

0:14:24 > 0:14:26Right. Well, WB is...

0:14:26 > 0:14:29- Is the poet. - ..is William Butler Yeats.

0:14:29 > 0:14:31- Oh, well done. - Well, Cecil B DeMille...

0:14:31 > 0:14:33Is Cecil, is he a film...?

0:14:33 > 0:14:35He's a film director.

0:14:35 > 0:14:38Isn't he the man who said, "Bring on the empty horses"?

0:14:38 > 0:14:41He's the one... "I'm ready for my close-up."

0:14:41 > 0:14:45"Bring on the empty horses or my middle name isn't Boynton"...

0:14:45 > 0:14:48- I don't know if that helps.- I'm ready for my close-up, Mr DeMille.

0:14:48 > 0:14:51- What is Priestley's middle name? - I actually have looked this up.

0:14:51 > 0:14:54But I cannot remember what it was.

0:14:54 > 0:14:56Yes, you can, just take a deep breath.

0:14:56 > 0:14:58- You'd remember if it was Boynton. - I like to think I would remember.

0:14:58 > 0:15:02One of the things that is worrying me is that there is a Boynton Street

0:15:02 > 0:15:06in Boston and I think EB White is American.

0:15:06 > 0:15:10See, for me it would be between EB White or JB Priestley -

0:15:10 > 0:15:12and if you're saying you've looked it up...

0:15:12 > 0:15:15I'm saying I looked it up, but I don't recall it.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17It's definitely not an English middle name.

0:15:17 > 0:15:19What this means is we're not coming to any decisions.

0:15:19 > 0:15:22- We are guessing, this is going to be a guess.- Potluck.

0:15:22 > 0:15:25- You are guessing EB White. - I'm guessing EB White.

0:15:25 > 0:15:26Let's go EB White.

0:15:26 > 0:15:29The panel has guessed,

0:15:29 > 0:15:30that is to say decided,

0:15:30 > 0:15:35that the famous person who had the middle name Boynton

0:15:35 > 0:15:37was EB White.

0:15:37 > 0:15:42There we go. Great conviction from our panel on a blind guess.

0:15:42 > 0:15:44Yeah, that makes it quite difficult.

0:15:44 > 0:15:48I think this time I will go with the panel because I have no idea.

0:15:48 > 0:15:50I'll go with EB White.

0:15:51 > 0:15:55OK, you have no clue either, but you're going with the panel's guess

0:15:55 > 0:15:57of EB White.

0:15:58 > 0:16:00For £200,

0:16:00 > 0:16:02the correct answer is...

0:16:07 > 0:16:08JB Priestley.

0:16:09 > 0:16:10Irish parents.

0:16:12 > 0:16:15His full name was John Boynton Priestley.

0:16:15 > 0:16:18- John.- Best known for his play An Inspector Calls.

0:16:18 > 0:16:22Young John Priestley or Jack Priestley to his friends and family,

0:16:22 > 0:16:26is thought to have adopted the B and the Boynton

0:16:26 > 0:16:28while growing up in Bradford.

0:16:28 > 0:16:29- Bradford?- Really? - Thought it was Yorkshire.

0:16:29 > 0:16:32Before the First World War.

0:16:32 > 0:16:36EB White, the author of Stuart Little and Charlotte's Web

0:16:36 > 0:16:38- was Elwyn Brooks White.- Oh, yes!

0:16:38 > 0:16:42Germaine was right. WB Yeats of course, William Butler Yeats,

0:16:42 > 0:16:48and the Hollywood film producer was Cecil Blount.

0:16:48 > 0:16:52All of that round of knowledge doesn't help, Hazel, I'm afraid.

0:16:52 > 0:16:53Nothing for that question,

0:16:53 > 0:16:56but it means at the end of Round 1, you are still on £400.

0:16:56 > 0:17:00APPLAUSE

0:17:00 > 0:17:03This is the first point of the show where we ask you

0:17:03 > 0:17:06how our panel are doing. What do you think?

0:17:06 > 0:17:08I think they are all doing fantastically well.

0:17:08 > 0:17:10There's been some really difficult questions.

0:17:10 > 0:17:15And anyone standing out for a good reason or a bad reason?

0:17:15 > 0:17:18I think at this point they are all as good as each other.

0:17:18 > 0:17:20- Very diplomatic. Very diplomatic. - Yeah.

0:17:20 > 0:17:23OK, Hazel, well, let's see how they cope with pictures.

0:17:23 > 0:17:24It's time for Round 2.

0:17:27 > 0:17:29OK, Hazel, Round 2 is our picture round.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32You must place three pictures in the correct order.

0:17:32 > 0:17:33Three questions in this round.

0:17:33 > 0:17:36The money goes up to £300 for every correct answer.

0:17:36 > 0:17:38A possible 900 quid for the prize pot.

0:17:38 > 0:17:39Here we go.

0:18:00 > 0:18:03It should be quite easy because they are all quite contemporary,

0:18:03 > 0:18:06but I would like to hear what the panel have to say.

0:18:06 > 0:18:08OK, panel, let's see if we can sort this out.

0:18:08 > 0:18:10Your debate starts now.

0:18:10 > 0:18:12- Well, Russell knows. - I think I know, yeah.- And you know.

0:18:12 > 0:18:15I think so.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17I think this one isn't as hard as some of the rounds.

0:18:17 > 0:18:19So what do we think?

0:18:19 > 0:18:22Well, he lost in the '97 election to Tony Blair.

0:18:22 > 0:18:25Yeah, but how many terms had he done before that?

0:18:25 > 0:18:27I don't know how many terms, but I know Thatcher resigned

0:18:27 > 0:18:29right at the start of the '90s and the election was '97,

0:18:29 > 0:18:31so it is more or less seven years.

0:18:31 > 0:18:33And he did it, he didn't get to do the last term,

0:18:33 > 0:18:35so he is the shortest.

0:18:35 > 0:18:37- He did the coalition.- Yeah.

0:18:37 > 0:18:40That was 2...

0:18:40 > 0:18:43- 2009, 2010. 2010 maybe? - He was about five years,

0:18:43 > 0:18:46he was about six years and he was about ten.

0:18:46 > 0:18:51- Yeah.- The panel has decided that it goes in this order,

0:18:51 > 0:18:54Cameron, Major, Blair.

0:18:54 > 0:18:57OK, that's what our panel think.

0:18:57 > 0:19:01But have they managed to convince you?

0:19:01 > 0:19:05Well, they all sounded very sure and I'm definitely going to go with

0:19:05 > 0:19:07- the panel on this one.- OK.

0:19:07 > 0:19:10So you're going to go with the panel, Hazel.

0:19:10 > 0:19:13Is that the correct order?

0:19:13 > 0:19:14For £300.

0:19:19 > 0:19:21It is!

0:19:23 > 0:19:26David Cameron was PM for around six years and two months

0:19:26 > 0:19:28from May 2010 to June 2016.

0:19:28 > 0:19:31John Major was PM for around six years and five months

0:19:31 > 0:19:36from November 1990 to May 1997.

0:19:36 > 0:19:40Tony Blair then took over for PM in 1997 for almost ten years

0:19:40 > 0:19:44and two months, from May '97 to June 2007.

0:19:45 > 0:19:47Well played. £300 into the prize pot.

0:19:47 > 0:19:49- You're up to £700.- Wow!

0:19:49 > 0:19:51Well done, guys. That was it.

0:19:51 > 0:19:52You knew it.

0:19:53 > 0:19:57OK, well played, Hazel. Still £600 up for grabs in this round.

0:19:57 > 0:19:59Here comes your second question.

0:20:14 > 0:20:16Well, I am one of those star signs, so I know one of the months

0:20:16 > 0:20:19- for definite. - OK, you are a...?

0:20:19 > 0:20:22- Gemini. - I see big money coming your way.

0:20:22 > 0:20:24Yeah, I do too.

0:20:24 > 0:20:27So it will be interesting to hear what the panel say,

0:20:27 > 0:20:30but I think I've got a pretty good idea anyway.

0:20:30 > 0:20:33Panel, let's see what's in your future. Your debate starts now.

0:20:33 > 0:20:36- Anyone one of these signs? - I like this question for once.

0:20:36 > 0:20:39- Are you a Libra by any chance?- OK, you take over because I don't know

0:20:39 > 0:20:41- anything about them.- Really?

0:20:41 > 0:20:44I just thought this was... Because there's only a choice of 12,

0:20:44 > 0:20:47so as long as you sort of know what they are.

0:20:47 > 0:20:50Like Hazel has just said, I know Gemini.

0:20:50 > 0:20:52My son is a Gemini and he's June.

0:20:52 > 0:20:55My sister is also a Gemini so it's end of May, June. Leo is August.

0:20:55 > 0:20:58- That's me.- The lion.- I'm a Leo.

0:20:58 > 0:21:00- August 19th. - You're not a Libra, are you?

0:21:00 > 0:21:03- I'm Aquarius with Aquarius rising. Can't you tell?- That's January.

0:21:03 > 0:21:08I'm cancer with a Leo rising, however Libra is September.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11- Yeah, that's right.- There's Gemini, then there's Cancer, then Leo,

0:21:11 > 0:21:13then there's Virgo, then there's Libra.

0:21:13 > 0:21:16My mum's Gemini, June 11th, my brother is Cancer, June 27th.

0:21:16 > 0:21:18- I'm Leo, August 19th. - I love it, I love star signs.

0:21:18 > 0:21:22Completely lost on me, I'm afraid.

0:21:22 > 0:21:26But the learned panel has decided that the order is

0:21:26 > 0:21:28Gemini, Leo, Libra.

0:21:29 > 0:21:36OK, Hazel. Who knew that Sunetra was such a Mystic Meg?

0:21:36 > 0:21:39- Septic Peg.- A Septic Peg over in the corner there,

0:21:39 > 0:21:42not just giving us the answer but giving us quite a few others.

0:21:42 > 0:21:45- OK, Hazel.- Yep. Well, they completely echoed what I thought.

0:21:45 > 0:21:49- Following the panel.- OK, you're sticking with your original thought.

0:21:49 > 0:21:51- Yep. - And you're going with the panel.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54- Yep.- Gemini, Leo and Libra.

0:21:54 > 0:21:58For another £300, is that the correct answer?

0:22:03 > 0:22:05- It is!- Brilliant!

0:22:05 > 0:22:08- Of course it was.- Well done.

0:22:08 > 0:22:10Leo runs from July 23rd,

0:22:10 > 0:22:12in or thereabouts, to August 22nd.

0:22:12 > 0:22:15Libra runs from September 23rd to October 23rd.

0:22:15 > 0:22:20Gemini runs from around May 21st to June 21st.

0:22:20 > 0:22:22That's another 300 quid into the prize pot.

0:22:22 > 0:22:25You're doing ever so well. You're up to £1,000, Hazel.

0:22:25 > 0:22:26Yeah, that's great.

0:22:30 > 0:22:32And we're not done in this round yet.

0:22:32 > 0:22:33Still another chance.

0:22:33 > 0:22:36For £300, here comes your next question.

0:22:51 > 0:22:55I will apologise for calling A-ha "A-haaa" in an Alan Partridge way.

0:22:56 > 0:22:58I really loved A-ha,

0:22:58 > 0:23:03so I happen to know that they won't have had their first hit first,

0:23:03 > 0:23:05but I'm not too sure about the other two,

0:23:05 > 0:23:07so it will be interesting to hear

0:23:07 > 0:23:08what the panel have to say.

0:23:08 > 0:23:12- I would imagine that Sunetra... - Funny you should say that, Patrick.

0:23:12 > 0:23:14Why me? All the clever questions go down that end,

0:23:14 > 0:23:17- anything to do with... - But that's not true at all.

0:23:17 > 0:23:20I'm just trying to work out who may have had a poster of some of these

0:23:20 > 0:23:21gentlemen on their wall.

0:23:21 > 0:23:23Who knows? Panel, let's see.

0:23:23 > 0:23:25The debate starts now.

0:23:25 > 0:23:28Well, this is one debate in which I cannot really take part.

0:23:28 > 0:23:31The reason this is a bit tricky is because of Duran Duran

0:23:31 > 0:23:33and Spandau Ballet. Like Hazel said, I was a big fan of A-ha.

0:23:33 > 0:23:37However, I was a bigger fan of Duran Duran and I did have a poster

0:23:37 > 0:23:41of Duran Duran on my wall and I have been to see them in concert

0:23:41 > 0:23:44and Save A Prayer is one of my favourite songs ever.

0:23:44 > 0:23:46The only one I remember is A-ha. When I was at school.

0:23:46 > 0:23:48I think that's quite late in the '80s,

0:23:48 > 0:23:51- I think that's about '87. - Yeah, they were around then.

0:23:51 > 0:23:53- But the other two...- The other two were around a lot earlier.

0:23:53 > 0:23:55I would personally guess that Duran Duran were around

0:23:55 > 0:23:57just before Spandau Ballet.

0:23:57 > 0:23:59Spandau Ballet were the ones who sang Gold.

0:23:59 > 0:24:01- "Gold!"- And True and...

0:24:01 > 0:24:03- Yeah.- This would be my guest.

0:24:03 > 0:24:05They were both around the same era,

0:24:05 > 0:24:09but I think Duran Duran had their first top 40 hit with...

0:24:09 > 0:24:11Now you are going to ask me. Is it Girls On Film?

0:24:11 > 0:24:13I don't know. Maybe.

0:24:13 > 0:24:16OK. So, the learned members of the panel,

0:24:16 > 0:24:18who in this case do not include me,

0:24:18 > 0:24:23have decided that these bands go in the following order,

0:24:23 > 0:24:27and that's Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet and A-ha.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33OK, Hazel. What do we think of that?

0:24:33 > 0:24:35I'm a little bit torn

0:24:35 > 0:24:37because I had a cousin who was a little bit older than me

0:24:37 > 0:24:41and she actually gave me a Spandau Ballet dress, of all things.

0:24:41 > 0:24:42- Really?- Yeah.

0:24:42 > 0:24:44- So, I'm not going to go with Sunetra.- OK.

0:24:44 > 0:24:45I'm going to say that

0:24:45 > 0:24:46it was Spandau Ballet,

0:24:46 > 0:24:48then Duran Duran and then A-ha.

0:24:50 > 0:24:53- Controversial, Hazel.- I know.- So...

0:24:53 > 0:24:57Our panel went with Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, then A-ha.

0:24:57 > 0:24:59You have gone against them.

0:24:59 > 0:25:02- You've gone for Spandau Ballet, Duran Duran and A-ha.- Yep.

0:25:02 > 0:25:04For £300, is that the correct order?

0:25:09 > 0:25:12It is the correct order!

0:25:12 > 0:25:14You were right.

0:25:14 > 0:25:16- Well done.- There we go.

0:25:16 > 0:25:19- Thanks to your cousin. - Yeah, thanks to my cousin, yeah.

0:25:19 > 0:25:21Spandau Ballet's first top 40 hit was in 1980

0:25:21 > 0:25:23with To Cut A Long Story Short.

0:25:23 > 0:25:26Duran Duran was 1981 with Planet Earth.

0:25:26 > 0:25:30- One year in it.- A year! - And A-ha was 1985, Take On Me.

0:25:30 > 0:25:31So sorry.

0:25:31 > 0:25:33I've never heard of that Spandau Ballet hit, so...

0:25:33 > 0:25:35No, it's fine. It's only a year.

0:25:35 > 0:25:37Really short to choose from.

0:25:37 > 0:25:40- Hazel, it doesn't matter, because you knew.- Yes!- I know.

0:25:40 > 0:25:42And that's another £300, so at the end of Round 2,

0:25:42 > 0:25:45your prize pot stands at £1,300.

0:25:45 > 0:25:47Wow!

0:25:48 > 0:25:52And there's still £1,500 up for grabs in Round 3.

0:25:52 > 0:25:56Forgetting the fact that the panel got the last question wrong,

0:25:56 > 0:25:59how do you think they're doing? Still proving useful?

0:25:59 > 0:26:01I still think they're all doing great, yeah.

0:26:01 > 0:26:02And have you made your mind up

0:26:02 > 0:26:04- who you'd like to play the Final Debate yet?- No, not yet.

0:26:04 > 0:26:05Of course you haven't.

0:26:05 > 0:26:07- Keep them working.- I am, yeah.

0:26:07 > 0:26:09OK. Let's see how they fare in our final round.

0:26:09 > 0:26:10It's time for Round 3.

0:26:13 > 0:26:16OK, Hazel, in Round 3, you're going to have questions

0:26:16 > 0:26:18that contain statements about a person, a place or a thing,

0:26:18 > 0:26:20- but only one of those statements is true.- OK.

0:26:20 > 0:26:22We need you to find that answer.

0:26:22 > 0:26:23It is the final round,

0:26:23 > 0:26:25so we're going to bump up the money

0:26:25 > 0:26:29to 500 quid for each correct answer. £1,500 in total.

0:26:29 > 0:26:32So, let's see if you can bag it all for the prize pot.

0:26:32 > 0:26:34Here comes your first question.

0:26:57 > 0:27:01I have just finished reading Michael Palin's diaries

0:27:01 > 0:27:02from around this time.

0:27:02 > 0:27:05I am pretty sure that when I read the book,

0:27:05 > 0:27:08he mentioned Douglas Adams writing material,

0:27:08 > 0:27:10but I'm not 100% about that.

0:27:10 > 0:27:13OK. You're not 100%.

0:27:13 > 0:27:15Your debate starts now.

0:27:15 > 0:27:16Well...

0:27:16 > 0:27:19Obviously, little bit before my time.

0:27:19 > 0:27:22But like all good comedians, I'm a fan of Monty Python.

0:27:22 > 0:27:26Went to the show at the O2 and I love Fawlty Towers,

0:27:26 > 0:27:28which was being filmed

0:27:28 > 0:27:29around the same time.

0:27:29 > 0:27:31Surely there must have been an occasion where Cleese

0:27:31 > 0:27:33could not make it.

0:27:33 > 0:27:35Douglas Adams, 100% certain,

0:27:35 > 0:27:36- appeared in the series.- OK.

0:27:36 > 0:27:38As a character. He appeared in some of the movies.

0:27:38 > 0:27:41He's in Meaning Of Life. When they're doing the operation,

0:27:41 > 0:27:42all the blood squirting everywhere,

0:27:42 > 0:27:44the tall surgeon is Douglas Adams with a mask on.

0:27:44 > 0:27:46That could be what I was thinking of.

0:27:46 > 0:27:48If there was someone who didn't

0:27:48 > 0:27:51fit in to the kind of schoolboy gang

0:27:51 > 0:27:52that they were,

0:27:52 > 0:27:54it was actually John Cleese,

0:27:54 > 0:27:56who's a bit complicated.

0:27:56 > 0:27:59Actually, I did watch a documentary and I think because we were thinking

0:27:59 > 0:28:02of the more popular end of the TV series, which is towards the end...

0:28:02 > 0:28:05- It's massive.- The very, very beginning and the early days,

0:28:05 > 0:28:08I think John Cleese was brought in to supplement roles

0:28:08 > 0:28:12as opposed to be part of the very, very first team. Ah!

0:28:12 > 0:28:15OK, so are we going to say that it's the third one?

0:28:15 > 0:28:16- Douglas Adams.- OK.- Yeah.

0:28:16 > 0:28:18The panel has decided that

0:28:18 > 0:28:19Douglas Adams did write

0:28:19 > 0:28:21material for the TV series

0:28:21 > 0:28:22of Monty Python.

0:28:24 > 0:28:27OK, Hazel. Good debate there from the panel.

0:28:27 > 0:28:29They've come round to your first thought.

0:28:29 > 0:28:32But they've also almost talked me out of it!

0:28:32 > 0:28:34And I'm starting to doubt myself now.

0:28:34 > 0:28:36But I think, because that was my first inkling

0:28:36 > 0:28:38and because the panel have

0:28:38 > 0:28:40gone with that, I'm going to go with the panel.

0:28:40 > 0:28:41And say C.

0:28:41 > 0:28:43OK, you're going with your first thought.

0:28:43 > 0:28:44You're going with the panel.

0:28:44 > 0:28:47- Germaine has her head in her hands. - He's definitely in it.

0:28:47 > 0:28:52For £500, the correct statement about Monty Python is...

0:28:54 > 0:28:57Go on. Come on.

0:28:57 > 0:29:00Yes! Get in! Woohoo!

0:29:02 > 0:29:04It was the last - before they made Hitchhiker.

0:29:04 > 0:29:08Douglas Adams did write material for the fourth series

0:29:08 > 0:29:11and he did briefly appear in a sketch as a doctor.

0:29:11 > 0:29:14John Cleese left before the fourth and final series was broadcast

0:29:14 > 0:29:19in 1974, as he was working on solo projects such as Fawlty Towers,

0:29:19 > 0:29:21- which would air the next year. - Yes.

0:29:21 > 0:29:23The Pythons played for ten nights,

0:29:23 > 0:29:27adding nine nights after their initial show sold out

0:29:27 > 0:29:30- in a record 43.5 seconds.- Gosh!

0:29:30 > 0:29:32But, look, very, very well played.

0:29:32 > 0:29:34£500 into the prize pot.

0:29:34 > 0:29:36You're now up to £1,800.

0:29:42 > 0:29:45There is still £1,000 up for grabs.

0:29:45 > 0:29:47- OK.- Two questions to go.

0:29:47 > 0:29:49Let's see if we can get it for you.

0:29:49 > 0:29:50Here we go.

0:30:09 > 0:30:11As I turn to side profile...

0:30:13 > 0:30:14What are your first thoughts?

0:30:14 > 0:30:16I think there might be two there that we could discount,

0:30:16 > 0:30:19but I'd really like to hear what the panel has to say.

0:30:19 > 0:30:21Keeping the powder dry. Panel?

0:30:21 > 0:30:24I'd really like to hear what Hazel thinks about this first!

0:30:24 > 0:30:26Your debate starts now!

0:30:27 > 0:30:29Right, so does his name translate as "big nose"?

0:30:29 > 0:30:31I don't think so.

0:30:31 > 0:30:33- No.- I thought his name meant "little boots".

0:30:33 > 0:30:37- Gula.- It's -igula.

0:30:37 > 0:30:39I think he was murdered by his sister.

0:30:39 > 0:30:41How did Caligula die?

0:30:41 > 0:30:44I don't know why I'm feeling he was murdered by his sister.

0:30:44 > 0:30:48I thought he was, because wasn't he having some sort of affair?

0:30:48 > 0:30:49Wasn't he quite lusty, Caligula?

0:30:52 > 0:30:55Roman mythology, goats, is there...?

0:30:55 > 0:30:56- Greek God, goats.- Is there a God?

0:30:57 > 0:30:59The head of a goat?

0:30:59 > 0:31:02A goat god. Pan is the goat god.

0:31:02 > 0:31:04- Pan. So...- With his cloven feet.

0:31:04 > 0:31:07And Pan is quite the horny god, if I'm not mistaken, isn't he?

0:31:07 > 0:31:09Pan ruts and struts...

0:31:09 > 0:31:12- He's the god of nature, actually. - Nature.

0:31:12 > 0:31:14- They were lustful, definitely.- Yes.

0:31:14 > 0:31:15Maybe a goat mounted him one day.

0:31:15 > 0:31:18But to mention goats, it wasn't like he can't have goats near him,

0:31:18 > 0:31:21- it was like you can't mention goats around him.- But I was thinking that

0:31:21 > 0:31:24the connotation of goat, it might have some sort of taboo connotation

0:31:24 > 0:31:26like when we use a word today that we wouldn't use in society

0:31:26 > 0:31:28because it had a racial or sexist connotation.

0:31:28 > 0:31:30Goat may well have had that sort of connotation,

0:31:30 > 0:31:32- and if he had problems... - You guys decide on this one.

0:31:32 > 0:31:34Are we going to go with goats?

0:31:34 > 0:31:37I think goats, cos I'm sure he was sleeping with his sister.

0:31:37 > 0:31:39- I'm sure he was.- Sunetra, goats?

0:31:39 > 0:31:42I'm going for sister, but I think the majority should do this one,

0:31:42 > 0:31:45so if you think it's goats, go with goats.

0:31:45 > 0:31:46For no very good reason,

0:31:46 > 0:31:47the panel has decided

0:31:47 > 0:31:50that it was illegal to mention goats

0:31:50 > 0:31:52around the Emperor Caligula.

0:31:52 > 0:31:53Baa.

0:31:54 > 0:31:57Interesting. It's not what I would have gone for,

0:31:57 > 0:32:01but the more I think about it, I'm wondering if C just sounds a bit

0:32:01 > 0:32:05too easy, and the goat is put in there to put us off.

0:32:05 > 0:32:07So I think I'm going to agree with the panel and say B.

0:32:09 > 0:32:13OK. You are going with the panel.

0:32:13 > 0:32:19- Yep.- For £500, it was illegal to mention goats around Caligula.

0:32:25 > 0:32:27It's the correct statement!

0:32:27 > 0:32:30Goats! I knew it!

0:32:30 > 0:32:31I got that one wrong.

0:32:31 > 0:32:34- Well done. - The rutting, strutting Pan!

0:32:34 > 0:32:36Well done. Germaine, you were right.

0:32:36 > 0:32:38His name means "little boots".

0:32:39 > 0:32:44Or "bootikins" was the nickname given to him by his father's troops.

0:32:44 > 0:32:46And he wasn't keen on that.

0:32:46 > 0:32:48He was very self-conscious about his looks.

0:32:48 > 0:32:50He was tall, he was pale, he was hairy.

0:32:50 > 0:32:53He was worried that people might think he looked like a goat.

0:32:54 > 0:32:58He was assassinated by an officer of his own guard.

0:32:58 > 0:33:01So the Roman word for boot was "caliga".

0:33:02 > 0:33:04And that's where the little boots come from -

0:33:04 > 0:33:05and Russell, you were right,

0:33:05 > 0:33:08- he was accused of sleeping with his sister.- Yes!

0:33:08 > 0:33:10- But nothing was proved.- No.

0:33:10 > 0:33:12That's another £500 into the prize pot,

0:33:12 > 0:33:16taking you up to a total of £2,300.

0:33:19 > 0:33:21Well done, Hazel. You're playing the game so, so well.

0:33:21 > 0:33:24£2,300 in the prize pot.

0:33:24 > 0:33:28We have a chance to get this up to 2,800 with this question.

0:33:28 > 0:33:29- Here it comes.- Come on, team!

0:33:30 > 0:33:33- Come on!- A lot riding on this. - Oh, no!

0:33:54 > 0:33:56Oh, sport.

0:33:56 > 0:34:00I am really not sure, but before the panel debate,

0:34:00 > 0:34:04I would probably go for C, but I'm not sure at all.

0:34:04 > 0:34:05OK, you are thinking C.

0:34:05 > 0:34:07Let's see of the panel can help you out here.

0:34:07 > 0:34:08Russell's shaking his head.

0:34:08 > 0:34:10Your debate starts now.

0:34:10 > 0:34:11- Any one of those...- OK.

0:34:12 > 0:34:15- OK, Sunetra.- So, this is all I can help you with.

0:34:15 > 0:34:17It's obviously going to be a bit of a guess.

0:34:17 > 0:34:20But he is not older than Jamie Carragher.

0:34:20 > 0:34:22Jamie Carragher's a bit older than him.

0:34:22 > 0:34:25I'm going to avoid the second statement for a second

0:34:25 > 0:34:28and go to the third one and say he will have scored

0:34:28 > 0:34:31in the final of an FA Cup, and I know that in the Champions League,

0:34:31 > 0:34:33the famous Champions League when Liverpool did win,

0:34:33 > 0:34:36- which was a big deal. AC Milan, big deal.- Famous.

0:34:36 > 0:34:38I feel Gerard had something to do with that.

0:34:38 > 0:34:42Now, the UEFA Cup, I don't know. I don't know it well enough to know...

0:34:42 > 0:34:46- What is it?- It's another cup. It's another trophy.- Why?

0:34:46 > 0:34:49But don't we think that he certainly would have been sent off twice

0:34:49 > 0:34:52- when playing for England?- Well, he's definitely been sent off once.

0:34:52 > 0:34:54It's whether he was playing for England.

0:34:54 > 0:34:56Remember he became captain and he was a really revered player.

0:34:56 > 0:34:58To begin with when he was younger,

0:34:58 > 0:34:59he kept his nose clean, he was really good,

0:34:59 > 0:35:03- then he got a little bit more... - Feisty.- Feisty, yeah, and so for me,

0:35:03 > 0:35:07I probably believe he has been sent off twice when playing for England.

0:35:07 > 0:35:09And I know that would be really...

0:35:09 > 0:35:11I know nothing about football, but that's not captain-ly conduct,

0:35:11 > 0:35:14- to have been sent off twice.- He hasn't been captain for all the time

0:35:14 > 0:35:17- he played for England.- Yeah, but it's still on your CV, isn't it?

0:35:17 > 0:35:19You've got six points on your licence.

0:35:19 > 0:35:22I mean, I have no clue, but they do tend to be more squeaky clean,

0:35:22 > 0:35:23the captains, don't they?

0:35:23 > 0:35:24Yeah.

0:35:24 > 0:35:26Yes! Please stop shouting at me,

0:35:26 > 0:35:29everyone at home watching on television!

0:35:29 > 0:35:31I can't be sure that he scored in the finals of all three, FA Cup,

0:35:31 > 0:35:34- Champions League and UEFA Cup. - We have to go with Sunetra.

0:35:34 > 0:35:37I'm so sorry. I can't believe I'm your best option here!

0:35:37 > 0:35:39So, Sunetra's risking her neck.

0:35:39 > 0:35:41The true statement there

0:35:41 > 0:35:45is that Steven Gerrard has been sent off twice when playing for England.

0:35:48 > 0:35:51So, Hazel, you'll never walk alone unless you're a member of this panel

0:35:51 > 0:35:54and have been thrown under the bus by her other two fellow panellists!

0:35:55 > 0:35:58Apparently it's all down to Sunetra on this one.

0:35:58 > 0:36:01I know Sunetra's got some Liverpool players knowledge,

0:36:01 > 0:36:03but I still think I'm going to go for C,

0:36:03 > 0:36:06because I think I would remember it if he had been sent off twice

0:36:06 > 0:36:08when playing for England, cos I think he's always been

0:36:08 > 0:36:11quite a sort of gentlemanly kind of player as far as I know.

0:36:11 > 0:36:12So I think I'm still going to go for C.

0:36:14 > 0:36:16OK, you're going against the panel.

0:36:16 > 0:36:19You are going against our Liverpool supporter.

0:36:19 > 0:36:25- That's fine.- For £500 to get us up to a prize pot of 2,800.

0:36:25 > 0:36:27The correct statement is...

0:36:32 > 0:36:36It's C! Well done!

0:36:36 > 0:36:40Very well played!

0:36:40 > 0:36:43What am I here for, really? I'm so sorry!

0:36:43 > 0:36:46It was good knowledge. It was good knowledge that you had.

0:36:46 > 0:36:50Gerrard has scored in the final of a League Cup, an FA Cup,

0:36:50 > 0:36:52a Champions League and a UEFA Cup.

0:36:52 > 0:36:57He was only sent off once for England against Ukraine in 2012.

0:36:57 > 0:36:59His first England goal was in the 5-1 win against Germany

0:36:59 > 0:37:01in a World Cup qualifier.

0:37:01 > 0:37:05In 2001, Gerrard scored the goal to put England 2-1 up.

0:37:05 > 0:37:07As a Manchester United supporter,

0:37:07 > 0:37:09I would also give the other piece of trivia.

0:37:09 > 0:37:10He never won the league.

0:37:13 > 0:37:15Hazel, at the end of that round,

0:37:15 > 0:37:17you were right to go against our panel.

0:37:17 > 0:37:20The prize pot is up to £2,800.

0:37:20 > 0:37:21Very well done!

0:37:24 > 0:37:26Very well played.

0:37:26 > 0:37:28It's a great amount of money.

0:37:28 > 0:37:30- It is.- Any plans for it if you managed get it today?

0:37:30 > 0:37:34Yes, it's been my dream for such a long time to go to New York,

0:37:34 > 0:37:35and I'd love to go and take my son.

0:37:35 > 0:37:38- So, it's a trip to New York at stake.- Yeah.

0:37:38 > 0:37:41OK, Hazel, £2,800 up for grabs in the Final Debate

0:37:41 > 0:37:44where you will face one question.

0:37:44 > 0:37:47That question will have six possible answers, but only three are correct.

0:37:47 > 0:37:50We need you to give us all three correct answers to win.

0:37:50 > 0:37:53As before, you will not be walking alone.

0:37:53 > 0:37:56You must choose one member of our panel to assist you.

0:37:56 > 0:38:00You and your panellist will have 45 seconds to debate the question.

0:38:00 > 0:38:04OK, Hazel, who would you like to join you in the Final Debate?

0:38:04 > 0:38:07Will it be Russell with his small, unripened grapes?

0:38:07 > 0:38:10Will you go off piste with Germaine?

0:38:10 > 0:38:14Or do you never want to walk alone with Sunetra?

0:38:16 > 0:38:18Well, I'd like to say thank you to all the panel,

0:38:18 > 0:38:20cos it's been invaluable, all of your advice,

0:38:20 > 0:38:22but I think I'm going to go for Russell.

0:38:22 > 0:38:23- Oh, my God!- OK. Russell,

0:38:23 > 0:38:26would you please join us as we play the Final Debate?

0:38:31 > 0:38:34OK, Russell, you have been chosen for the Final Debate.

0:38:34 > 0:38:36Has Hazel made the right decision?

0:38:36 > 0:38:38I mean, I, personally, on that performance,

0:38:38 > 0:38:40would have picked Germaine, if I were you,

0:38:40 > 0:38:42but I'm complimenting I'm going to do my best.

0:38:42 > 0:38:46OK, he's disassociated himself from the Final Debate,

0:38:46 > 0:38:48but also you know he's going to try his best.

0:38:48 > 0:38:50Yeah. That's the main thing.

0:38:50 > 0:38:51That is the main thing.

0:38:51 > 0:38:53Well, look, there's £2,800 up for grabs.

0:38:53 > 0:38:56We've got two categories for you to choose from,

0:38:56 > 0:38:57because it is the Final Debate.

0:38:57 > 0:38:59Have a look at these two. Tell us what you fancy.

0:39:02 > 0:39:06US Geography. Chemistry.

0:39:06 > 0:39:07How are you on Science?

0:39:07 > 0:39:09I'm not bad on Science.

0:39:09 > 0:39:12I'm good on Geography, but not great on US Geography.

0:39:12 > 0:39:15- Have you got a bit of Science? - I've got a bit of Science.

0:39:15 > 0:39:16I've got a bit of Science.

0:39:16 > 0:39:19So it's better if it's a subject we've both got a bit on.

0:39:19 > 0:39:22- It's your choice, it's your money. - I think we should go for Chemistry.

0:39:22 > 0:39:24- OK.- Yep, Chemistry.

0:39:24 > 0:39:26OK, Chemistry it is.

0:39:26 > 0:39:29We are going to put 45 seconds on the clock.

0:39:29 > 0:39:31£2,800 up for grabs.

0:39:31 > 0:39:33Hazel, the very best of luck.

0:39:33 > 0:39:35Here is your Final Debate.

0:39:35 > 0:39:37- We just chose Chemistry! What have we done?- I know!

0:39:45 > 0:39:46Yes.

0:39:47 > 0:39:49- Lithium.- Yes.

0:39:50 > 0:39:51- Aluminium.- No.

0:39:52 > 0:39:54- Potassium.- Yes.

0:39:54 > 0:39:57- Sodium.- No.

0:39:57 > 0:39:59- Zinc.- No.

0:39:59 > 0:40:01- Gold.- Hm... - Your 45 seconds starts now.

0:40:01 > 0:40:03Um... Are you thinking aluminium no,

0:40:03 > 0:40:04because it's a metal?

0:40:04 > 0:40:07I'm pretty sure that aluminium doesn't react with cold water

0:40:07 > 0:40:08- given tin sheds are made out of them.- You said...

0:40:08 > 0:40:11Potassium and lithium are in the first group on the periodic table.

0:40:11 > 0:40:14They have an exothermic reaction when they touch water and explode.

0:40:14 > 0:40:17- OK.- I'm guessing that out of zinc...

0:40:17 > 0:40:18Gold is in the middle of the periodic table,

0:40:18 > 0:40:21and definitely doesn't have a reaction with cold water,

0:40:21 > 0:40:23- or we'd be in trouble.- Isn't sodium something to do with salt?

0:40:23 > 0:40:26- Wouldn't that have a reaction with water?- Yes, I think sodium...

0:40:26 > 0:40:27But it's not a violent reaction.

0:40:27 > 0:40:30- I think sodium might be the first one in that group...- OK.

0:40:30 > 0:40:34..and have... And have a reaction with water.

0:40:34 > 0:40:36Zinc, though. Zinc's bothering me.

0:40:36 > 0:40:38Ten seconds.

0:40:38 > 0:40:39It's definitely lithium

0:40:39 > 0:40:41and potassium.

0:40:41 > 0:40:42I would guess probably sodium.

0:40:42 > 0:40:45Na is the chemical symbol if it's any help with that!

0:40:45 > 0:40:47- Thank you!- Time up, Hazel.

0:40:47 > 0:40:49I need three answers.

0:40:49 > 0:40:52OK. Lithium, potassium and sodium.

0:40:52 > 0:40:53OK, Hazel. Thank you so much.

0:40:53 > 0:40:55- Sodium I'm not sure.- I know.

0:40:55 > 0:40:58If those are the three answers, you go home with £2,800.

0:40:58 > 0:41:02If one of them is wrong, Hazel, I'm afraid you will leave with nothing.

0:41:02 > 0:41:05- OK.- OK, we're all rooting for you here.

0:41:05 > 0:41:07First up, you said lithium.

0:41:07 > 0:41:09That definitely explodes. I've seen it.

0:41:09 > 0:41:10Is lithium a correct answer?

0:41:14 > 0:41:17- It is.- The first group of metals.

0:41:17 > 0:41:20- You are up and running.- Yeah.

0:41:20 > 0:41:21Next you said potassium.

0:41:21 > 0:41:24If potassium is a correct answer, you're still in the game.

0:41:24 > 0:41:26- If it's wrong... - I'm sure it's the next one down,

0:41:26 > 0:41:29and slightly more explosive than lithium in my memory.

0:41:29 > 0:41:33To keep us on track for 2,800, is potassium a correct answer?

0:41:38 > 0:41:40It is a correct answer!

0:41:41 > 0:41:43It reacts so vigorously with water

0:41:43 > 0:41:45that it actually ignites the hydrogen

0:41:45 > 0:41:47- gas that it gives off.- Wow.- Correct.

0:41:47 > 0:41:49So, you were right about that, Russell.

0:41:49 > 0:41:51OK, Hazel, the third answer you gave me was sodium,

0:41:51 > 0:41:54it was the one that you were least sure of.

0:41:54 > 0:41:57If it is correct, it's £2,800.

0:41:57 > 0:41:59If it's wrong, I'm afraid you do leave with nothing.

0:41:59 > 0:42:01OK, we wish you all the best here, Hazel.

0:42:01 > 0:42:04- OK.- For £2,800...

0:42:05 > 0:42:07..is sodium a correct answer?

0:42:19 > 0:42:21We won!

0:42:21 > 0:42:22We won!

0:42:27 > 0:42:29Well done.

0:42:29 > 0:42:33- Fantastic.- Congratulations, Hazel, very well played.

0:42:33 > 0:42:34I really doubted myself there.

0:42:34 > 0:42:37- You did so well.- Very well done.

0:42:37 > 0:42:39And well played, Russell.

0:42:39 > 0:42:41OK, Hazel, remind us again how you're going to spend the money.

0:42:41 > 0:42:43I'm going to take my son to New York.

0:42:43 > 0:42:45- OK, and Russell is coming along! - Yes, I am.

0:42:45 > 0:42:48I'm going to do an in-flight private dance for you.

0:42:48 > 0:42:51- Perfect. - Whether you like it or not!

0:42:51 > 0:42:52Yeah, I'm not too sure now.

0:42:52 > 0:42:55We need that periodic table knowledge now.

0:42:55 > 0:42:57- The correct answers are all alkali metals.- Metal.

0:42:57 > 0:43:01They are all the elements below hydrogen in the first column

0:43:01 > 0:43:03- of the periodic table. - That's what you said.

0:43:03 > 0:43:05Their reaction to...

0:43:05 > 0:43:07Their reaction to water, much like Russell's dancing,

0:43:07 > 0:43:10becomes increasingly violent

0:43:10 > 0:43:13- the further down the column they go. - As the cash goes up!

0:43:13 > 0:43:14My dancing gets more violent.

0:43:14 > 0:43:16Very well played here.

0:43:16 > 0:43:18You leave today with £2,800.

0:43:18 > 0:43:19Let's hear it for Hazel!

0:43:23 > 0:43:24And that is it for Debatable.

0:43:24 > 0:43:27There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,

0:43:27 > 0:43:30to Russell Kane, to Germaine Greer and Sunetra Sarker.

0:43:30 > 0:43:32I do hope you've enjoyed watching.

0:43:32 > 0:43:34We'll see you next time for more heated debates.

0:43:34 > 0:43:35For now, from me, goodbye!