Episode 26

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0:00:14 > 0:00:18Hello and welcome to Debatable today.

0:00:18 > 0:00:22A player must answer a series of tricky questions to try to walk

0:00:22 > 0:00:26away with that jackpot of over ?3000, but as always

0:00:26 > 0:00:36they are not on their own.

0:00:36 > 0:00:38They will have a panel of celebrities debating

0:00:38 > 0:00:39their way to the answer.

0:00:39 > 0:00:41Will they be able to talk the talk, however?

0:00:41 > 0:00:42As always that's Debatable.

0:00:42 > 0:00:43So, let's meet them.

0:00:43 > 0:00:45Talking the talk today we have, journalist John Sergeant.

0:00:45 > 0:00:47We have actress and comedian, Liz Carr.

0:00:47 > 0:00:49And broadcaster and campaign at June Sarpong.

0:00:49 > 0:00:51APPLAUSE.

0:00:51 > 0:00:55It is a well-balanced, highly qualified panel.

0:00:55 > 0:00:57June, of course you've spoken to some of the most powerful

0:00:57 > 0:00:58people in the world?

0:00:58 > 0:00:59Yes.

0:00:59 > 0:01:01Tony Blair, Bono, President Clinton.

0:01:01 > 0:01:07Hillary Clinton.

0:01:07 > 0:01:08Hillary Clinton, you've spoken to Hillary Clinton?

0:01:08 > 0:01:14Yes.

0:01:14 > 0:01:16So your debating skills are quite good?

0:01:16 > 0:01:18Well, every time I see you, they get better, Patrick.

0:01:18 > 0:01:19So how about that?

0:01:19 > 0:01:20I quite liked that.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22Was that a little wink at the end there?

0:01:22 > 0:01:25So what qualifications do you have, what are you bringing

0:01:25 > 0:01:26to the dance for us, June?

0:01:26 > 0:01:28My only qualification is that I'm quite gobby.

0:01:28 > 0:01:30There you go, how about that?

0:01:30 > 0:01:31This will work quite well.

0:01:31 > 0:01:32Yeah.

0:01:32 > 0:01:33I think this will work quite well.

0:01:33 > 0:01:34John Sergeant, of course.

0:01:34 > 0:01:38Obviously being on The One Show means you have a huge depth

0:01:38 > 0:01:39of knowledge about stuff that's quite random and potentially

0:01:39 > 0:01:41not important at all?

0:01:41 > 0:01:43They are quite random and also they do things,

0:01:43 > 0:01:45they put you in places you've not been before, which is nice.

0:01:45 > 0:01:48You meet people you wouldn't expect to meet and sometimes

0:01:48 > 0:01:51if you are there and there's a star guest, you're sitting next to them

0:01:51 > 0:01:55and you're thinking, I'm moving up in the world.

0:01:55 > 0:02:00Absolutely no pressure on you then, Liz?

0:02:00 > 0:02:03On Silent Witness you normally, but the right answer.

0:02:03 > 0:02:05Yes.

0:02:05 > 0:02:08It normally takes an hour and someone has to die?

0:02:08 > 0:02:08Yes.

0:02:08 > 0:02:10Is it going to be different today?

0:02:10 > 0:02:11Let's just look around.

0:02:11 > 0:02:12Not today, please.

0:02:12 > 0:02:15Do you feel like you've got the perfect team on either side?

0:02:15 > 0:02:16I think, yes, absolutely.

0:02:16 > 0:02:17We've got everything we need.

0:02:17 > 0:02:18We are bonding.

0:02:18 > 0:02:20Could you be a bit more convincing about that?

0:02:20 > 0:02:21No.

0:02:21 > 0:02:23I'm not sure I'm that good an actress.

0:02:23 > 0:02:26OK, that's our panel, it's time to meet our contestant,

0:02:26 > 0:02:27it's Sue from Llandudno.

0:02:27 > 0:02:31Sue, how are you doing?

0:02:31 > 0:02:32I'm good thank you.

0:02:32 > 0:02:34Welcome to this show.

0:02:34 > 0:02:36Thank you.

0:02:36 > 0:02:37Tell us a little bit about yourself.

0:02:37 > 0:02:39I work as a toll booth operator.

0:02:39 > 0:02:41I've got a little teensy-weensy castle all of my own,

0:02:41 > 0:02:42that's my office.

0:02:42 > 0:02:44Fabulous job, telling the tourists all about the attractions

0:02:44 > 0:02:46and where to go in Llandudno.

0:02:46 > 0:02:48And my little hobby is, I've got a camper van.

0:02:48 > 0:02:49Do you indeed?

0:02:49 > 0:02:51And where does this camp and go with you?

0:02:51 > 0:02:53To be honest, it goes pretty much everywhere

0:02:53 > 0:02:55because we haven't got a car.

0:02:55 > 0:02:57So is our car, but we mostly go around Anglesey,

0:02:57 > 0:02:58North Wales, it's so beautiful.

0:02:58 > 0:03:00You don't really need to go much further.

0:03:00 > 0:03:02You see, I see what you've done there.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05So, the camper van, who travels with you in the camper van?

0:03:05 > 0:03:06Me and my husband.

0:03:06 > 0:03:07OK.

0:03:07 > 0:03:09Yeah, I've got a little granddaughter, she's

0:03:09 > 0:03:10two, her name's Martha.

0:03:10 > 0:03:13But we're not taking with us until she is a little bit older.

0:03:13 > 0:03:15Yes, the two-year-old in the camper van, I mean that's never

0:03:15 > 0:03:17really going to work out.

0:03:17 > 0:03:18No, no.

0:03:18 > 0:03:23Not yet.

0:03:23 > 0:03:27So, Sue, what do you make of the panel?

0:03:27 > 0:03:29Well, do you know what, I'm actually quite excited

0:03:29 > 0:03:31because I think we've got three great brains there.

0:03:31 > 0:03:32And I'm hoping to pick them.

0:03:32 > 0:03:34That's the right thing to say.

0:03:34 > 0:03:36Yes, you need to pay close attention because you can only

0:03:36 > 0:03:39choose one of them to play the final debate.

0:03:39 > 0:03:40OK.

0:03:40 > 0:03:41Ready to play?

0:03:41 > 0:03:42I am.

0:03:42 > 0:03:44OK, here we go, let's play round one.

0:03:44 > 0:03:47Sue, this round is multiple choice, four possible answers.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50We have four questions in this round, ?200 for each correct answer,

0:03:50 > 0:03:52a possible ?800 up for grabs.

0:03:52 > 0:03:53Fabulous.

0:03:53 > 0:03:54OK, here we go.

0:03:54 > 0:03:55Let's get cracking.

0:03:55 > 0:03:58Here's your first question.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15First reaction is, I don't think it's a lemur, I'm

0:04:15 > 0:04:17drawn towards a snake.

0:04:17 > 0:04:19Drawn towards the snake?

0:04:19 > 0:04:20Panel, your debate starts now.

0:04:20 > 0:04:22Anyone drawn towards the snake?

0:04:22 > 0:04:23Anyone else?

0:04:23 > 0:04:26I am, I can imagine a boomslang, sort of snake,

0:04:26 > 0:04:27in the African outback.

0:04:27 > 0:04:30In the desert.

0:04:30 > 0:04:33But snakes don't boom, do they, they sort of slang

0:04:33 > 0:04:35along I suppose a bit.

0:04:35 > 0:04:39But I mean otherwise it's a bit odd, isn't it?

0:04:39 > 0:04:41I sort of feel that if it was an elephant

0:04:41 > 0:04:42we'd have heard that.

0:04:42 > 0:04:44I don't know why, I'm just looking at the other ones.

0:04:44 > 0:04:54I think an elephant, a boomslang, you know.

0:04:54 > 0:04:57I've seen Lion King and never heard that word in it, so.

0:04:57 > 0:04:58I reckon...

0:04:58 > 0:04:59Lemur, may be, may be a lemur?

0:04:59 > 0:05:02I thought, a boomslang, I'm not sort you would have that...

0:05:02 > 0:05:03You can imagine him...

0:05:03 > 0:05:04What's this?

0:05:04 > 0:05:06I don't know what this is.

0:05:06 > 0:05:07Boomslang.

0:05:07 > 0:05:08It's that boomslang.

0:05:08 > 0:05:10It is that.

0:05:10 > 0:05:14You imagine the sort of ranchers, nicknaming it a boomslang.

0:05:14 > 0:05:16In colonial times, yes.

0:05:16 > 0:05:20OK, you are saying a buffalo?

0:05:20 > 0:05:22That isn't a buffalo, is it, that's a boomslang.

0:05:22 > 0:05:23That's possible.

0:05:23 > 0:05:25That's definitely not an old, boring buffalo.

0:05:25 > 0:05:30Yes, that's a boomslang.

0:05:30 > 0:05:31Quite friendly boomslang.

0:05:31 > 0:05:32Yeah.

0:05:32 > 0:05:33OK, just need one.

0:05:33 > 0:05:34OK, buffalo.

0:05:34 > 0:05:35Buffalo.

0:05:35 > 0:05:38Snake.

0:05:38 > 0:05:41I'm really sorry, John, I have to go with the majority here.

0:05:41 > 0:05:42Oh right, OK.

0:05:42 > 0:05:43If that's OK?

0:05:43 > 0:05:45Well, good luck to two slippery customers.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47It's only the first question as well.

0:05:47 > 0:05:49OK, I think the panel are going with B.

0:05:49 > 0:05:50A snake.

0:05:50 > 0:05:52A boomslang is a snake.

0:05:52 > 0:05:56So, John not convinced.

0:05:56 > 0:06:00However, the panel also drawn to the snake.

0:06:00 > 0:06:02Yeah, I think you've just confirmed what I was thinking.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04It just sounds right to me.

0:06:04 > 0:06:08I can just imagine "boomslang it, it's a snake".

0:06:08 > 0:06:11So I'm going to say that the boomslang is a snake.

0:06:11 > 0:06:16OK, to get you up and running for ?200 the correct answer is...

0:06:20 > 0:06:22Please.

0:06:22 > 0:06:27CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.

0:06:27 > 0:06:32Very well played.

0:06:32 > 0:06:36Good mime work, good mime work their team.

0:06:36 > 0:06:38Good mime work, good mime work there team.

0:06:38 > 0:06:39We are all doing it now.

0:06:39 > 0:06:49I'm so pleased for both of you.

0:06:49 > 0:06:51A boomslang is the largeish, highly venomous African tree snake,

0:06:51 > 0:06:53most commonly found in the central and southern regions

0:06:53 > 0:06:54of the continent.

0:06:54 > 0:06:55Very well done, Sue.

0:06:55 > 0:06:57First question correct, ?200.

0:06:57 > 0:06:58Yay!

0:06:58 > 0:07:04APPLAUSE.

0:07:04 > 0:07:10Here comes your next question.

0:07:23 > 0:07:29I don't know very much about sport, so I'm kind of leaning

0:07:29 > 0:07:32towards one of the other two.

0:07:32 > 0:07:37I'm going to say Constable's painting of the Hay Waine.

0:07:37 > 0:07:39I'm going to say Constable's painting of the Hay Wain.

0:07:39 > 0:07:40OK, that's what you're leaning towards.

0:07:40 > 0:07:42Panel, can you sort this out for her?

0:07:42 > 0:07:43Your debate starts now.

0:07:43 > 0:07:44John?

0:07:44 > 0:07:47I don't know, the original Ashes urn, I wouldn't have thought that

0:07:47 > 0:07:49would turn up on the Antiques Road Show.

0:07:49 > 0:07:52Let's go through it, the FA Cup, that's not going to turn up

0:07:52 > 0:07:53on the Antiques Road Show.

0:07:53 > 0:07:56It's really only I think between the Constable painting

0:07:56 > 0:07:57and a copy of the Magna Carta.

0:07:57 > 0:08:00And it's a copy, I don't think that's worth a million.

0:08:00 > 0:08:03The trouble is, you can get so many copies of both of those things,

0:08:03 > 0:08:06you can get them for a couple of quid, I should have thought?

0:08:06 > 0:08:07?1 million?

0:08:07 > 0:08:10The Constable's one is the original one, is it?

0:08:10 > 0:08:11I think I remember it.

0:08:11 > 0:08:12Ah, inside knowledge.

0:08:12 > 0:08:13OK, go on.

0:08:13 > 0:08:16I never know any of these, when they come up, when I'm playing

0:08:16 > 0:08:17at home, I never know.

0:08:17 > 0:08:18What do you remember?

0:08:18 > 0:08:20I think it's a sport one.

0:08:20 > 0:08:21Then probably the original Ashes urn, no?

0:08:21 > 0:08:25Right.

0:08:25 > 0:08:28Could have been quite a few urns, of course, lots of Ashes.

0:08:28 > 0:08:32But it would be small.

0:08:32 > 0:08:34We are talking about ?1 million, lots of money.

0:08:34 > 0:08:37?1 million, I just find it hard to believe it's the FA Cup,

0:08:37 > 0:08:40because that will have changed probably three or four times,

0:08:40 > 0:08:42wouldn't it, they will have got a new one in, wouldn't they?

0:08:42 > 0:08:45I think it's the original Ashes urn.

0:08:45 > 0:08:46I think it's the original Ashes urn.

0:08:46 > 0:08:47OK.

0:08:47 > 0:08:48I'm really not sure, honestly.

0:08:48 > 0:08:52I have a feeling it might be the FA Cup.

0:08:52 > 0:08:55But, I totally get your reasoning, so I'm going to go with that.

0:08:55 > 0:08:57I'm going to go with that.

0:08:57 > 0:09:02We think that it's the original Ashes urn.

0:09:02 > 0:09:08So that's what our panel thought, but, do you agree?

0:09:08 > 0:09:12Like I say, I'm not great on sport, so that's why I kind of ignored

0:09:12 > 0:09:13it in the first place.

0:09:13 > 0:09:14But, you are very convincing, panel.

0:09:14 > 0:09:16We are, we have convinced ourselves.

0:09:16 > 0:09:19So I'm kind of going towards you guys with it

0:09:19 > 0:09:21being either the FA Cup or the original Ashes.

0:09:21 > 0:09:26Now the original Ashes urn, that helped the bails,

0:09:26 > 0:09:30Now the original Ashes urn, that held the bails,

0:09:30 > 0:09:33I think that were burned after the first Test match, I think.

0:09:33 > 0:09:36So I'm actually going to go with the panel on this one and I'm

0:09:36 > 0:09:40going to save the original Ashes urn as being the object that was valued

0:09:40 > 0:09:41at over ?1 million.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44Going with the panel, for ?200, was the original Ashes urn the most

0:09:44 > 0:09:46expensive item to be valued on the Antiques Road Show

0:09:46 > 0:09:55at a million quid?

0:09:55 > 0:10:01Oh, Liz we're sorry.

0:10:01 > 0:10:08To know what, you kind of knew that, Liz, didn't you?

0:10:08 > 0:10:11It sports, sorry.

0:10:11 > 0:10:13You all knew more than I did, so...

0:10:13 > 0:10:15It was the FA Cup.

0:10:15 > 0:10:17The cup was presented to winning teams from 1911

0:10:17 > 0:10:19until it was replaced by a new FA Cup in 1992.

0:10:19 > 0:10:20Exactly the same design.

0:10:20 > 0:10:24The old FA Cup was valued at more than 1 million in an addition

0:10:24 > 0:10:25to the long-running programme recorded in Harrogate.

0:10:25 > 0:10:26Sorry, Sue.

0:10:26 > 0:10:31Wrong to go with the panel that time round.

0:10:31 > 0:10:41No money added, you are still on ?200.

0:10:42 > 0:10:46Here is your next question...

0:10:49 > 0:10:51Kerkyra?

0:10:51 > 0:10:53Now, they are all quite similar.

0:10:53 > 0:10:54I'm leaning towards Crete.

0:10:54 > 0:10:56But I don't know.

0:10:56 > 0:10:58You're not really sure?

0:10:58 > 0:11:00I'm not really sure, I'd like to hear what

0:11:00 > 0:11:01the panel had to say.

0:11:01 > 0:11:04Oh, we'd all like to hear what the panel makes of this.

0:11:04 > 0:11:05Your debate starts now.

0:11:05 > 0:11:06Anything immediate from either of you?

0:11:06 > 0:11:08Well, I don't know why, I think Corfu.

0:11:08 > 0:11:11Why?

0:11:11 > 0:11:14Because I think it's the only one, if you were from Corfu,

0:11:14 > 0:11:18and you wanted to sound a bit more Greek, that would be quite

0:11:18 > 0:11:20an attractive change, you wouldn't be cross about it,

0:11:20 > 0:11:21we wouldn't have heard of it.

0:11:21 > 0:11:26That's my only thought.

0:11:26 > 0:11:29I don't know if this is useful at this point,

0:11:29 > 0:11:30but I really like Greek food.

0:11:30 > 0:11:31Love it.

0:11:31 > 0:11:32What's your favourite?

0:11:32 > 0:11:33Bit of feta?

0:11:33 > 0:11:34You can't go wrong.

0:11:34 > 0:11:35Can't go wrong.

0:11:35 > 0:11:38Can't go wrong, that's the thing.

0:11:38 > 0:11:40I can add Mykonos as a great holiday destination,

0:11:40 > 0:11:45I could highly recommend it.

0:11:45 > 0:11:47And the Kos lettuce are named after the island of Kos.

0:11:47 > 0:11:48Is that so?

0:11:48 > 0:11:49It's actually true.

0:11:49 > 0:11:50OK.

0:11:50 > 0:11:52I'm feeling kind of we don't know.

0:11:52 > 0:11:55We don't know, at all.

0:11:55 > 0:11:57That's one way of putting it, that's a crude way of putting it.

0:11:57 > 0:11:59John, you seem quite convinced with Corfu.

0:11:59 > 0:12:00We are the expert panel.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02You are quite confident about that?

0:12:02 > 0:12:05It's what you call a blind guess.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07Well, as I definitely don't know, I'm happy

0:12:07 > 0:12:12to go with whatever you to think.

0:12:12 > 0:12:14to go with whatever you two think.

0:12:14 > 0:12:15OK.

0:12:15 > 0:12:19We are going to go with C, Corfu.

0:12:19 > 0:12:26OK, based on pretty much no knowledge at all, what do you think?

0:12:26 > 0:12:29Do you know what, like I said, I didn't really have a clue

0:12:29 > 0:12:32and even though the panel, by their own admission don't

0:12:32 > 0:12:35really have a clue either, I kind of like John's logic

0:12:35 > 0:12:37and I think I'll go with the panel, please.

0:12:37 > 0:12:41OK, you are going with the panel, going with the logic of Mr Sergeant.

0:12:41 > 0:12:42Kerkyra is the Greek name for Corfu?

0:12:42 > 0:12:50For ?200, the correct answer is...

0:12:51 > 0:12:53CHEERING and APPLAUSE.

0:12:53 > 0:12:59Very well done.

0:12:59 > 0:13:02Brilliant.

0:13:02 > 0:13:03Very well done Mr Sergeant.

0:13:03 > 0:13:04Please don't go on about it.

0:13:04 > 0:13:07We take it all back, we take it all back.

0:13:07 > 0:13:09The Greek version is named after the beautiful nymph

0:13:09 > 0:13:13that the sea god Poseidon fell in love with.

0:13:13 > 0:13:16The island is also the birthplace of the Duke of Edinburgh.

0:13:16 > 0:13:19He was born on his kitchen table in his family's home there.

0:13:19 > 0:13:21Nice!

0:13:21 > 0:13:24Very well played, ?200 in your prize pot, you're up to ?400.

0:13:24 > 0:13:25Thank you.

0:13:25 > 0:13:32APPLAUSE.

0:13:32 > 0:13:41Here comes your next question...

0:13:50 > 0:13:54As usual, I've not got the faintest idea here.

0:13:54 > 0:13:57The first thing that came to my mind was Joseph Conrad.

0:13:57 > 0:13:58OK, based on limited knowledge...

0:13:58 > 0:14:08Don't worry, Sue.

0:14:08 > 0:14:18Your debate starts now.

0:14:20 > 0:14:23It's definitely not EM Forster, because he was born somewhere

0:14:23 > 0:14:25random like Mill Hill, or somewhere like that.

0:14:25 > 0:14:26That's like North London.

0:14:26 > 0:14:28I wondered about Jack London or Somerset Maugham from the point

0:14:28 > 0:14:31of view they've got English names, so where they overcompensated

0:14:31 > 0:14:33by their parents when they came to England?

0:14:33 > 0:14:34Possibly?

0:14:34 > 0:14:35To give them English sounding...

0:14:35 > 0:14:36To help them fit in.

0:14:36 > 0:14:37I think it's Joseph Conrad.

0:14:37 > 0:14:38Do you really?

0:14:38 > 0:14:39I do.

0:14:39 > 0:14:40Why?

0:14:40 > 0:14:41Why?

0:14:41 > 0:14:44This is just one of those things you have in your mind

0:14:44 > 0:14:45at any given moment.

0:14:45 > 0:14:48You are asked a question and you say yeah, that's it.

0:14:48 > 0:14:51I think he's Polish in background and I think he went on about people

0:14:51 > 0:14:54who were immigrants to London, from that part of the world.

0:14:54 > 0:14:57I think that Jack London was not that, he was much more born

0:14:57 > 0:15:00the wild, wasn't it, and Somerset Maugham, I can see him

0:15:00 > 0:15:02some part of the empire, but the Ukraine was never part

0:15:02 > 0:15:03of the Empire.

0:15:03 > 0:15:04Yes.

0:15:04 > 0:15:05Yeah.

0:15:05 > 0:15:09So I think, and EM Forster, I agree with you, I don't think that's it.

0:15:09 > 0:15:10So, I think Joseph Conrad.

0:15:10 > 0:15:14You're pretty convincing there, John.

0:15:14 > 0:15:17I'm putting out on of course I don't really know but, that's my guess.

0:15:17 > 0:15:18OK.

0:15:18 > 0:15:19Agreed?

0:15:19 > 0:15:20Yeah.

0:15:20 > 0:15:22The panel thinks A, Joseph Conrad.

0:15:22 > 0:15:24So, Sue, very convincing from our panel, although John says

0:15:24 > 0:15:26he may be putting it on.

0:15:26 > 0:15:28But they've gone with you, they've gone for Joseph Conrad.

0:15:28 > 0:15:32Yes, and I think we are in agreement there, think I'll stick with that.

0:15:32 > 0:15:33Joseph Conrad, please.

0:15:33 > 0:15:39OK, for ?200, is Joseph Conrad the correct answer?

0:15:42 > 0:15:43CHEERING and APPLAUSE.

0:15:43 > 0:15:46Well done.

0:15:46 > 0:15:48Thank goodness for that.

0:15:48 > 0:15:56Well done, John.

0:15:56 > 0:15:58No, the tension was building up, I noticed that.

0:15:58 > 0:16:02They were looking down on me and I was getting a bit embarrassed.

0:16:02 > 0:16:04I thought, if this goes wrong, you know, out.

0:16:04 > 0:16:07It's just the weight of knowledge you are carrying with you,

0:16:07 > 0:16:08the huge responsibility.

0:16:08 > 0:16:10A huge responsibility, I've got a long way to go down

0:16:10 > 0:16:11you see, that's the point.

0:16:11 > 0:16:14Joseph Conrad had been a deckhand on a freighter that landed

0:16:14 > 0:16:15in Lowestoft in June 1878.

0:16:15 > 0:16:18At the time, Conrad only spoke a few words of English.

0:16:18 > 0:16:21He went on to serve in the British merchant Navy and became

0:16:21 > 0:16:22a renowned writer of English.

0:16:22 > 0:16:23Very well done, Sue.

0:16:23 > 0:16:26Very well played panel.

0:16:26 > 0:16:28In means it's another ?200 in your prize pot,

0:16:28 > 0:16:32bringing the total amount up to ?600.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34APPLAUSE.

0:16:34 > 0:16:40So, Sue, now we get to turn to our panel and I ask you,

0:16:40 > 0:16:43how do you think they are faring?

0:16:43 > 0:16:45I think they are doing really well.

0:16:45 > 0:16:46Don't seem so surprised.

0:16:46 > 0:16:49I think we are getting some sort of reasoned response

0:16:49 > 0:16:50there from all of them.

0:16:50 > 0:16:52They are definitely convincing me, to be fair.

0:16:52 > 0:16:56OK, well, make sure you pay close attention because you will only be

0:16:56 > 0:17:01able to choose one of them in the final debate today.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04OK, let's see how they cope with pictures this time for round two.

0:17:04 > 0:17:06Sue, round two is our picture round.

0:17:06 > 0:17:10We need you to place three pictures in the correct order.

0:17:10 > 0:17:13There are three questions in this round, ?300 for each correct answer

0:17:13 > 0:17:16and a possible ?900.

0:17:16 > 0:17:20Here we go.

0:17:20 > 0:17:26Your first question...

0:17:34 > 0:17:38Films isn't my strongest point.

0:17:38 > 0:17:40I'm going to say Jennifer Lawrence, Scarlett Johansson

0:17:40 > 0:17:44and Melissa McCarthy.

0:17:44 > 0:17:47Don't worry, Sue, this is what the panel is here for.

0:17:47 > 0:17:49I'm sure our panel can sort this out.

0:17:49 > 0:17:50Your debate starts now.

0:17:50 > 0:17:51I know this one.

0:17:51 > 0:17:53You know it?

0:17:53 > 0:17:55Because I read the list when it came out.

0:17:55 > 0:17:58Well that's good, but can you remember the list?

0:17:58 > 0:17:59Yes.

0:17:59 > 0:18:01Can you put them in the right order?

0:18:01 > 0:18:01I think so, yes.

0:18:01 > 0:18:02Well, that's it then.

0:18:02 > 0:18:04I'd have gone with Jennifer Lawrence top.

0:18:04 > 0:18:05No.

0:18:05 > 0:18:06Really?

0:18:06 > 0:18:07It's not, it's Scarlett Johannson.

0:18:07 > 0:18:11And she's also the highest female grossing actress.

0:18:11 > 0:18:15Jennifer Lawrence, it just felt like last you she was in everything,

0:18:15 > 0:18:18however, I can't think of anything that she was in, but she just seemed

0:18:18 > 0:18:20to be everywhere at the box office.

0:18:20 > 0:18:21That's the only...

0:18:21 > 0:18:23They didn't make as much money, Jennifer Lawrence was number

0:18:23 > 0:18:24one I think in 2014.

0:18:24 > 0:18:25So she has been there?

0:18:25 > 0:18:26Yes, she has been.

0:18:26 > 0:18:28So, where...

0:18:28 > 0:18:29So where does Melissa McCarthy go?

0:18:29 > 0:18:31Three.

0:18:31 > 0:18:31Really?

0:18:31 > 0:18:32Yeah.

0:18:32 > 0:18:34So we've got our order.

0:18:34 > 0:18:35Are we going a bit swapsy then?

0:18:35 > 0:18:36So, Scarlett number one.

0:18:36 > 0:18:37So that's me.

0:18:37 > 0:18:42OK.

0:18:42 > 0:18:45The panel think that the actress paid the most according

0:18:45 > 0:18:47to the Forbes list in 2016 is Scarlett Johannson,

0:18:47 > 0:18:53followed by Jennifer Lawrence, followed by Melissa McCarthy.

0:18:53 > 0:18:58So, Sue.

0:18:58 > 0:19:01That was the right question for the right question, wasn't it?

0:19:01 > 0:19:04June believes she has read this list and she says she knows the answer.

0:19:04 > 0:19:06Liz, the only actor on our panel thought it may have

0:19:06 > 0:19:07been Jennifer Lawrence.

0:19:07 > 0:19:10But she has gone with the panel on this one.

0:19:10 > 0:19:11What do you think?

0:19:11 > 0:19:13I am absolutely going to defer to the panel

0:19:13 > 0:19:15here because I think June knows.

0:19:15 > 0:19:18June knows.

0:19:18 > 0:19:21I hope she knows, because that's the answer I'm going to have.

0:19:21 > 0:19:23I'm going to go with Scarlett Johannson first,

0:19:23 > 0:19:26followed by Jennifer Lawrence, followed by Melissa McCarthy.

0:19:26 > 0:19:31So, for ?300, is that the correct order?

0:19:38 > 0:19:40June!

0:19:40 > 0:19:43It's the wrong answer.

0:19:43 > 0:19:45No, no.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48It's OK.

0:19:48 > 0:19:49She was so convincing.

0:19:49 > 0:19:50This is awkward.

0:19:50 > 0:19:51This is awkward!

0:19:51 > 0:20:01This is worse than a awkward.

0:20:05 > 0:20:06Goodbye, June!

0:20:06 > 0:20:07That's it.

0:20:07 > 0:20:09Grossing, grossing.

0:20:09 > 0:20:12The highest-paid actresses, not the highest grossing stars.

0:20:12 > 0:20:14The highest grossing stars is the gross of the movie.

0:20:14 > 0:20:15This is the highest-paid actors.

0:20:15 > 0:20:16I'm so sorry, Sue.

0:20:16 > 0:20:18It's OK, I didn't know any better either.

0:20:18 > 0:20:19Let's look at the correct order.

0:20:19 > 0:20:21It should have been Jennifer Lawrence, the highest-paid.

0:20:21 > 0:20:23Then Melissa McCarthy and at the bottom it

0:20:23 > 0:20:24was Scarlett Johannson.

0:20:24 > 0:20:31The list ran from the 1st of June 2015 to the 1st of June 20 16.

0:20:31 > 0:20:33Sue, I'm sorry.

0:20:33 > 0:20:36It's OK, I won't hold it against you.

0:20:36 > 0:20:37Thank you.

0:20:37 > 0:20:39June, if it's any consolation, Scarlett Johannson was the highest

0:20:39 > 0:20:41grossing actress, earning 1.2 billion at the box office.

0:20:41 > 0:20:44I got confused.

0:20:44 > 0:20:50I don't know who I feel more sorry for, for you losing 300 quid or poor

0:20:50 > 0:20:52Scarlett and has to scrape by on 25 mill.

0:20:52 > 0:20:53Sorry, no money added.

0:20:53 > 0:20:59Still a couple of more chances in your picture round.

0:20:59 > 0:21:04Here comes your next one...

0:21:12 > 0:21:15Ooh!

0:21:15 > 0:21:17I actually think they are all quite young.

0:21:17 > 0:21:25Younger than you would imagine.

0:21:25 > 0:21:27I'm going to say controversially, drinking at home, then driving

0:21:27 > 0:21:28a tractor, then buying a pet.

0:21:28 > 0:21:32That's your first thought.

0:21:32 > 0:21:35Panel, your debate starts now.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38Driving a tractor, well that's, the driving a tractor

0:21:38 > 0:21:38really is dangerous.

0:21:38 > 0:21:42You know, you start doing that.

0:21:42 > 0:21:47So why would have thought you've got to be quite old to drive a tractor.

0:21:47 > 0:21:51So I would have thought you've got to be quite old to drive a tractor.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54But there's something about, we look after our pets and we see

0:21:54 > 0:21:56animal welfare as quite highly prized in the UK.

0:21:56 > 0:21:59So I wonder if that is much older, getting your first gerbil

0:21:59 > 0:22:00or whatever, is something all children do.

0:22:00 > 0:22:03But actually, I wonder if that's later, older than we imagine.

0:22:03 > 0:22:07There's more of a danger of a young child going into a shop

0:22:07 > 0:22:11and saying I want a pet, than driving a tractor into it.

0:22:11 > 0:22:13Unless they've been drinking at home, driving a tractor

0:22:13 > 0:22:16and they drive the tractor to the pet shop.

0:22:16 > 0:22:18They could do all these things, yeah.

0:22:18 > 0:22:22Then you have to be 14.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24What about when you get a goldfish at the fairground,

0:22:24 > 0:22:27there wasn't a legal age for that, was there?

0:22:27 > 0:22:29No, but are you buying it?

0:22:29 > 0:22:30You are winning it.

0:22:30 > 0:22:37I guess you're winning it then.

0:22:37 > 0:22:40I think we are agreeing with Sue, aren't we?

0:22:40 > 0:22:43Sue put buying a pet as you've got to be oldest for that.

0:22:43 > 0:22:46Put the next one down as driving a tractor and then drinking at home.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49OK, on that the panel think the order is drinking at home,

0:22:49 > 0:22:54driving a tractor on farmland and buying a pet.

0:22:54 > 0:22:58OK, Sue, that's what the panel makes of this, but what do you think?

0:22:58 > 0:23:00I'm sure that under parental supervision it is actually quite

0:23:00 > 0:23:02young to have a drink, I'm sure it is.

0:23:02 > 0:23:03Yeah.

0:23:03 > 0:23:04Yeah.

0:23:04 > 0:23:14And again, driving a tractor onslaught of your own farmland,

0:23:14 > 0:23:17And again, driving a tractor on sort of your own farmland, I think pets,

0:23:17 > 0:23:20all little children have got pets, but their mum and dad have bought

0:23:20 > 0:23:22them, or someone else has bought

0:23:22 > 0:23:23them a pet.

0:23:23 > 0:23:24So I think we are in agreement, hopefully.

0:23:24 > 0:23:26OK, you are going with the panel.

0:23:26 > 0:23:28For ?300, is that the correct order?

0:23:28 > 0:23:29It is!

0:23:29 > 0:23:30APPLAUSE.

0:23:30 > 0:23:32Brilliant.

0:23:32 > 0:23:36Would you believe, legally the current law states children

0:23:36 > 0:23:39cannot drink in the home under the age of five.

0:23:39 > 0:23:42A tractor can be legally driven from the age of 13 for agricultural,

0:23:42 > 0:23:44horticultural or forestry field operations, but not

0:23:44 > 0:23:47until 16 on the road.

0:23:47 > 0:23:51The law with regard to children buying a pet change

0:23:51 > 0:23:54The law with regard to children buying a pet changed

0:23:54 > 0:23:55from 12 to 16 in 2007.

0:23:55 > 0:23:58Well done, Sue, well worked out, ?300 into the prize pot.

0:23:58 > 0:23:59Thank you.

0:23:59 > 0:24:00You are up to ?900!

0:24:00 > 0:24:02APPLAUSE.

0:24:02 > 0:24:07OK, Sue, here comes your final picture question.

0:24:20 > 0:24:22I have absolutely no idea.

0:24:22 > 0:24:24Don't worry about that.

0:24:24 > 0:24:26Thank you.

0:24:26 > 0:24:28This is what our panel are here for.

0:24:28 > 0:24:30Panel, can we sort this out for Sue?

0:24:30 > 0:24:31Your debate starts now.

0:24:31 > 0:24:34Right, OK.

0:24:34 > 0:24:36Imran Khan and both Ian Botham in their day

0:24:36 > 0:24:42were legends, won't they?

0:24:42 > 0:24:44were legends, weren't they?

0:24:44 > 0:24:45Shane is a bit more recent.

0:24:45 > 0:24:46So he could have fewer.

0:24:46 > 0:24:49Yeah, I bet they've got a world record of something,

0:24:49 > 0:24:51either one of those two, either Imran or Ian.

0:24:51 > 0:24:54What about a blind guess at this stage, would that help?

0:24:54 > 0:24:55Yeah.

0:24:55 > 0:24:56Yeah.

0:24:56 > 0:24:57I like your blind guesses.

0:24:57 > 0:25:05Botham, Warne, followed by Khan.

0:25:05 > 0:25:07I would put Imran Khan above Ian Botham.

0:25:07 > 0:25:14But but you can't set some crazy record.

0:25:14 > 0:25:17Weren't they are in competition with each other, like a big rivalry

0:25:17 > 0:25:18between them, wasn't there?

0:25:18 > 0:25:20Yeah, but we are supporting Ian Botham, aren't we?

0:25:20 > 0:25:22I like Ian Botham, but I have a feeling

0:25:22 > 0:25:23Imran Khan has got more.

0:25:23 > 0:25:25He then went into politics though, didn't he?

0:25:25 > 0:25:26He did, in Pakistan.

0:25:26 > 0:25:28So that's against him, isn't it?

0:25:28 > 0:25:29And he was married to Jemima.

0:25:29 > 0:25:31Yeah, married to Jemima, we're getting there, I think.

0:25:31 > 0:25:33I think this is really helping.

0:25:33 > 0:25:34I think this is really helping.

0:25:34 > 0:25:37I definitely think Shane is where he is, the fewest.

0:25:37 > 0:25:38We are going to go the highest.

0:25:38 > 0:25:39Shall we swap over?

0:25:39 > 0:25:40Yeah, let's swap.

0:25:40 > 0:25:42See I feel quite confident now.

0:25:42 > 0:25:43Yeah.

0:25:43 > 0:25:44That we've got it right.

0:25:44 > 0:25:45We've explored it in detail.

0:25:45 > 0:25:46Well, exactly.

0:25:46 > 0:25:49All we've got to do now is to sum up, haven't we?

0:25:49 > 0:25:50Yeah.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53I'd bet you Imran Khan has a record that they are trying

0:25:53 > 0:25:54to beat in cricket.

0:25:54 > 0:25:57OK, so the panel think the fewest begins with Shane Warne,

0:25:57 > 0:25:59then it's Ian Botham, then it's Imran Khan.

0:25:59 > 0:26:04So, Sue.

0:26:04 > 0:26:06Our panel, with pretty much the exact same cricket knowledge

0:26:06 > 0:26:09as you, haven't let that get in the way!

0:26:09 > 0:26:12They have made a firm choice.

0:26:12 > 0:26:14They believe that Shane Warne has the fewest wickets,

0:26:14 > 0:26:17then Ian Botham and then Imran Khan.

0:26:17 > 0:26:21I absolutely will go with that.

0:26:21 > 0:26:24Because I have not got a better suggestion at all.

0:26:24 > 0:26:26So thank you, panel, I will go with that.

0:26:26 > 0:26:31It's touching, Sue, but I'm not sure that sensible.

0:26:31 > 0:26:33It's touching, Sue, but I'm not sure that's sensible.

0:26:33 > 0:26:35Your reasoning seems a bit...

0:26:35 > 0:26:36I've got the faith.

0:26:36 > 0:26:37You've got the faith, that's it.

0:26:37 > 0:26:38OK, here we go.

0:26:38 > 0:26:41So, is the order Shane Warne, Ian Botham and Imran Khan?

0:26:41 > 0:26:46For ?300...

0:26:49 > 0:26:52It's the wrong order.

0:26:52 > 0:26:56I warned you, Sue, don't say I didn't warn you.

0:26:56 > 0:26:57I think may be Warne and Botham.

0:26:57 > 0:26:59Let's look at the correct order...

0:26:59 > 0:27:01Oh.

0:27:01 > 0:27:02Imran Khan with the fewest.

0:27:02 > 0:27:03362 wickets.

0:27:03 > 0:27:05Ian Botham with 383 Test wickets.

0:27:05 > 0:27:11Then, Shane Warne the most, 708.

0:27:11 > 0:27:15My goodness.

0:27:15 > 0:27:18The second most of any professional player in the history of the game.

0:27:18 > 0:27:20So, Sue, nothing for that.

0:27:20 > 0:27:23It means at the end of the picture around your prize

0:27:23 > 0:27:24pot stands at ?900.

0:27:24 > 0:27:30APPLAUSE.

0:27:30 > 0:27:34OK, we still have one round to go before you choose your panellists

0:27:34 > 0:27:37OK, we still have one round to go before you choose your panellist

0:27:37 > 0:27:39to play the final debate.

0:27:39 > 0:27:41It's time for round three.

0:27:41 > 0:27:44So Sue, in round three your face questions that contain three

0:27:44 > 0:27:46statements about a person, place or a thing.

0:27:46 > 0:27:48Only one of those statements is true.

0:27:48 > 0:27:49We need you to find the true statement.

0:27:49 > 0:27:52Three questions in the round, ?500 up for grabs for

0:27:52 > 0:27:53each correct answer.

0:27:53 > 0:27:55A possible ?1500.

0:27:55 > 0:28:00Let's see if you can get your hands on it all.

0:28:00 > 0:28:04Here comes your first question...

0:28:23 > 0:28:25It's not B, I'm sure it's not.

0:28:25 > 0:28:29I'm leaning towards A.

0:28:29 > 0:28:30I don't know.

0:28:30 > 0:28:32I'd like to see what the panel says.

0:28:32 > 0:28:35OK, you'd like to see what the panel says,

0:28:35 > 0:28:38with one of the most magnificent stars that Strictly has ever had.

0:28:38 > 0:28:39Please!

0:28:39 > 0:28:40OK, panel, your debate starts now.

0:28:40 > 0:28:44Can you bring us any Strictly Intel?

0:28:44 > 0:28:47Any insider knowledge?

0:28:47 > 0:28:49I don't know, I'd have thought Jill Halfpenny,

0:28:49 > 0:28:52she must have been up there pretty early on.

0:28:52 > 0:28:54As the first celeb, but I thought it was that

0:28:54 > 0:28:56very nice newsreader, what she called?

0:28:56 > 0:28:57Oh, Natasha Kaplinsky?

0:28:57 > 0:28:59Yes.

0:28:59 > 0:29:01May be, yeah.

0:29:01 > 0:29:04Natasha Kaplinsky, see I thought she was the first celeb.

0:29:04 > 0:29:10So I think I'm going to say no to that.

0:29:10 > 0:29:13I don't know much about the X Factor or Pop Idol,

0:29:13 > 0:29:16they are not my sort of shows, I could do well in both of them,

0:29:16 > 0:29:19but you know, I haven't really given it a good go.

0:29:19 > 0:29:21I don't think Little Mix, I agree.

0:29:21 > 0:29:23See, I think it might be Little Mix.

0:29:23 > 0:29:25I think it was solo artists up until they've won.

0:29:25 > 0:29:27Can't think of another group.

0:29:27 > 0:29:29What about the boy band?

0:29:29 > 0:29:30No, they never won.

0:29:30 > 0:29:30Did they not win?

0:29:30 > 0:29:34No.

0:29:34 > 0:29:37Then I think you might be right, that could be the one.

0:29:37 > 0:29:38What are they called?

0:29:38 > 0:29:39One Direction.

0:29:39 > 0:29:40That's right.

0:29:40 > 0:29:41The most famous boy band, yes.

0:29:41 > 0:29:42In the world.

0:29:42 > 0:29:45That's right, in the world, what are they called?

0:29:45 > 0:29:48Michelle McManus may have been someone before her.

0:29:48 > 0:29:50Do you think we go with B, Little Mix.

0:29:50 > 0:29:51I think it could be.

0:29:51 > 0:29:52Yeah.

0:29:52 > 0:29:54Yeah.

0:29:54 > 0:29:56We the panel think Little Mix where the first group

0:29:56 > 0:30:02to win the X Factor.

0:30:02 > 0:30:04So, Sue.

0:30:04 > 0:30:07John bringing a little bit of Strictly knowledge there.

0:30:07 > 0:30:16It's definitely given me food for thought.

0:30:16 > 0:30:19Now that I'm thinking, I'm sure Will Young one Pop Idol

0:30:19 > 0:30:21before Michelle McManus.

0:30:21 > 0:30:24I don't know about Strictly, but didn't JLS win the X Factor?

0:30:24 > 0:30:26No.

0:30:26 > 0:30:28Where they just runners-up?

0:30:28 > 0:30:29Yeah, they definitely didn't win.

0:30:29 > 0:30:31You do know your X Factor.

0:30:31 > 0:30:34In that case, I'm going to go with the panel, please,

0:30:34 > 0:30:35I'm going to go with Little Mix.

0:30:35 > 0:30:37OK, you are going with the panel.

0:30:37 > 0:30:39That's the one to go for.

0:30:39 > 0:30:41Little Mix were the first group to win the X Factor,

0:30:41 > 0:30:45is that true for ?500?

0:30:45 > 0:30:47Is true!

0:30:47 > 0:30:50APPLAUSE.

0:30:50 > 0:30:53Well done, everybody.

0:30:53 > 0:30:55Good pop knowledge there, Liz.

0:30:55 > 0:30:58Good knowledge on Strictly, John, I have to say.

0:30:58 > 0:31:04And well sorted out, June, of course.

0:31:04 > 0:31:09You were right, guys, the previous winners for all solo acts.

0:31:09 > 0:31:12Will Young, was the first winner of Pop Idol in 2002.

0:31:12 > 0:31:13He beat Gareth Gates.

0:31:13 > 0:31:14Michelle McManus won the second series.

0:31:14 > 0:31:17Jill Halfpenny also won the second series of strictly

0:31:17 > 0:31:18in 2004 and you were right, John.

0:31:18 > 0:31:22Natasha Kaplinsky won the very first series the year before.

0:31:22 > 0:31:23Well played, Sue.

0:31:23 > 0:31:24?500 in your prize pot.

0:31:24 > 0:31:26You are up to ?1400.

0:31:26 > 0:31:30CHEERING and APPLAUSE.

0:31:30 > 0:31:32Here comes your second question.

0:31:32 > 0:31:37Which statement is true about Theodore Roosevelt?

0:31:52 > 0:31:54Wow, I was hoping there was something coming up

0:31:54 > 0:31:56about the teddy bear, but foiled again.

0:31:56 > 0:31:58I honestly don't know.

0:31:58 > 0:32:04Was he Franklin D Roosevelt's grandfather?

0:32:04 > 0:32:07First thought.

0:32:07 > 0:32:10OK, that's your first thought, I'm sure our panel will be able

0:32:10 > 0:32:14to sort this out quickly you.

0:32:14 > 0:32:16to sort this out quickly for you.

0:32:16 > 0:32:16Your debate starts now.

0:32:16 > 0:32:18So, Franklin D Roosevelt's grandfather, no he wasn't.

0:32:18 > 0:32:19His great uncle.

0:32:19 > 0:32:22So it just takes a line of that.

0:32:22 > 0:32:24So it just takes a line off that.

0:32:24 > 0:32:26We can be sure about that.

0:32:26 > 0:32:27He didn't die in office.

0:32:27 > 0:32:28FDR died in office.

0:32:28 > 0:32:29So we get rid of those two.

0:32:29 > 0:32:31But did we know, did he go skinny dipping?

0:32:31 > 0:32:34He must have, because it's not the other two.

0:32:34 > 0:32:38How did they know?

0:32:38 > 0:32:40Is there proof, have you seen those photos?

0:32:40 > 0:32:42He was a bit mad though, wasn't he?

0:32:42 > 0:32:44He used to go hunting.

0:32:44 > 0:32:44He was a bit wild.

0:32:44 > 0:32:46He was a bit wild, yeah.

0:32:46 > 0:32:47I could believe he went skinny-dipping.

0:32:47 > 0:32:49I've sat back because I'm a little bit shocked.

0:32:49 > 0:32:51Do we actually know this one?

0:32:51 > 0:32:53Yeah, we know the two that are definitely not correct

0:32:53 > 0:32:55so we know this one.

0:32:55 > 0:32:57Also with him, remember he decided not to run again

0:32:57 > 0:32:58after the second term.

0:32:58 > 0:33:00So by a cunning process of elimination?

0:33:00 > 0:33:00Yeah.

0:33:00 > 0:33:02Skinny-dipping must have been written down.

0:33:02 > 0:33:05And to be fair, it's the more fun one, so great.

0:33:05 > 0:33:06And he was wild.

0:33:06 > 0:33:07For tea-time on BBC Two.

0:33:07 > 0:33:10So, OK, the panel believe that the truth about

0:33:10 > 0:33:13Theodore Roosevelt is he used to go skinny dipping whilst president?

0:33:13 > 0:33:23Based on a process of elimination, Sue, they are going but Theodore

0:33:23 > 0:33:26Based on a process of elimination, Sue, they are going for

0:33:26 > 0:33:28Theodore Roosevelt used to go skinny dipping whilst president.

0:33:28 > 0:33:31Do you know what, I really liked that logic, it was sound, I think.

0:33:31 > 0:33:33Although these days, they call it more chunky dunking

0:33:33 > 0:33:35rather than skinny-dipping in my book.

0:33:35 > 0:33:36Chunky dunking?

0:33:36 > 0:33:39That's what I do these days, but I think I will go

0:33:39 > 0:33:41with the panel please, in that he used to go skinny

0:33:41 > 0:33:43dipping whilst president.

0:33:43 > 0:33:46Well, for ?500, is that true about Theodore Roosevelt?

0:33:46 > 0:33:53It is!

0:33:53 > 0:33:55Well done.

0:33:55 > 0:33:56Thank you.

0:33:56 > 0:33:58Very well done, Sue.

0:33:58 > 0:34:00Very well done panel.

0:34:00 > 0:34:02He liked to go skinny dipping in the Potomac River.

0:34:02 > 0:34:05He was Franklin D Roosevelt's fifth cousin and the uncle of FDR's

0:34:05 > 0:34:07wife, Eleanor Roosevelt.

0:34:07 > 0:34:11Very well played, well done, panel.

0:34:11 > 0:34:13Another ?500 into your prize pot.

0:34:13 > 0:34:16You are up to ?1900.

0:34:16 > 0:34:19APPLAUSE.

0:34:19 > 0:34:29Another ?500 up for grabs, here comes your final

0:34:46 > 0:34:48They are obviously all three well-known religious words,

0:34:48 > 0:34:51but I mean do they use Satan instead of the devil?

0:34:51 > 0:34:53Oh yeah.

0:34:53 > 0:34:56In that book, would it refer to you as being a Christian?

0:34:56 > 0:34:57Honestly, not sure.

0:34:57 > 0:34:59I'd really like to get the advice of the panel?

0:34:59 > 0:35:02OK, let's get the advice of a God-fearing panel,

0:35:02 > 0:35:04your debate starts now.

0:35:04 > 0:35:08That's a very good point about would they have use Satan

0:35:08 > 0:35:10That's a very good point about would they have used Satan

0:35:10 > 0:35:16rather than the devil?

0:35:16 > 0:35:17They still refer to him.

0:35:17 > 0:35:20I have a slight problem here in that my father was a vicar...

0:35:20 > 0:35:21Oh, come on.

0:35:21 > 0:35:23So I ought to know the answer.

0:35:23 > 0:35:25You would have thought after all that churchgoing,

0:35:25 > 0:35:28sitting in the front row, having to be there for the sermon...

0:35:28 > 0:35:29Reciting scripture.

0:35:29 > 0:35:31You would have thought I would have absorbed all this stuff.

0:35:31 > 0:35:33But no, the opposite happened.

0:35:33 > 0:35:34I think it might be Trinity.

0:35:34 > 0:35:35Really?

0:35:35 > 0:35:36I actually do read the Bible.

0:35:36 > 0:35:39I think Trinity, I think that's the most likely one.

0:35:39 > 0:35:41We all know they have to be devils.

0:35:41 > 0:35:48And they have to be Christians.

0:35:48 > 0:35:50So this is the holy Trinity, but maybe it's not in

0:35:50 > 0:35:51the King James Bible.

0:35:51 > 0:35:52Yeah.

0:35:52 > 0:35:54You read the Bible, so you feel that...

0:35:54 > 0:35:55You have done?

0:35:55 > 0:35:59I mean, I read bits of the Bible, I like the Bible, but yeah,

0:35:59 > 0:36:00I don't think Trinity is in there.

0:36:00 > 0:36:02I think that's what we've used to describe.

0:36:02 > 0:36:05It's a more modern term, maybe.

0:36:05 > 0:36:06I like that.

0:36:06 > 0:36:07John?

0:36:07 > 0:36:10Yes, we are all agreed.

0:36:10 > 0:36:12So we, the panel believe the word Trinity does not

0:36:12 > 0:36:15appear in the King James Bible.

0:36:15 > 0:36:16OK, Sue.

0:36:16 > 0:36:19John, the son of a vicar.

0:36:19 > 0:36:27Son of a preacher man.

0:36:27 > 0:36:29The son of a preacher man, there he is.

0:36:29 > 0:36:31Anything to help you there?

0:36:31 > 0:36:33Their guess is better than mine, I think.

0:36:33 > 0:36:39So I am quite happy to go with the panel and said

0:36:39 > 0:36:42So I am quite happy to go with the panel and say that the word

0:36:42 > 0:36:45Trinity does not appear in the King James Bible.

0:36:45 > 0:36:48OK, panel, for ?500 we are saying the word Trinity does not appear

0:36:48 > 0:36:49in the King James Bible.

0:36:49 > 0:36:52The correct statement is...

0:36:52 > 0:36:56Well done.

0:36:56 > 0:37:00Very well played.

0:37:00 > 0:37:01Amazing, amazing.

0:37:01 > 0:37:05The word Trinity does not appear in the King James Bible,

0:37:05 > 0:37:07the world devil or devils appears over 100 times in the

0:37:07 > 0:37:09King James version.

0:37:09 > 0:37:13Christian or Christians appears just three times in the Acts

0:37:13 > 0:37:17of the Apostles and the first pistol of Peter.

0:37:17 > 0:37:18The word Trinity does not appear.

0:37:18 > 0:37:20Very good knowledge, panel.

0:37:20 > 0:37:22Very well done, Sue.

0:37:22 > 0:37:24You have played so well.

0:37:24 > 0:37:27At the end of round three your prize pot is up to ?2400.

0:37:27 > 0:37:31APPLAUSE.

0:37:31 > 0:37:36So, a very tidy little sum.

0:37:36 > 0:37:41Only one question between you and the cash.

0:37:41 > 0:37:47If you manage to bag the cash today, what are you going to spend it on?

0:37:47 > 0:37:49Well, I mentioned earlier I've got a camper van,

0:37:49 > 0:37:59I'd like to go to France in the camper van,

0:37:59 > 0:38:03wine eat some good food.

0:38:03 > 0:38:06OK, so a little holiday to France up for grabs.

0:38:06 > 0:38:08That would be lovely.

0:38:08 > 0:38:10There's only one question between you and the money

0:38:10 > 0:38:11and that is the final debate.

0:38:11 > 0:38:14In the final debate you will have six possible answers,

0:38:14 > 0:38:20only three are correct.

0:38:20 > 0:38:22We need you to get all three to bag the money.

0:38:22 > 0:38:25As always you will not be on your own in the final debate,

0:38:25 > 0:38:28you will get to choose one of these fine panellists to assist you.

0:38:28 > 0:38:31So, based on their performance today, who would you like to join

0:38:31 > 0:38:33you in the final debate?

0:38:33 > 0:38:35Will it be our own national treasure valued at over

0:38:35 > 0:38:36a million, John Sergeant.

0:38:36 > 0:38:38Will you be little mixing it up with Liz Carr,

0:38:38 > 0:38:41or will it be Britain's highest grossing panel show

0:38:41 > 0:38:41guest, June Sarpong.

0:38:41 > 0:38:44Well, a tough decision, because they've all shown

0:38:44 > 0:38:46their strengths, but I'm actually going to go with June, please.

0:38:46 > 0:38:49OK, June will you join us please to play the final debate.

0:38:49 > 0:38:50OK, June.

0:38:50 > 0:38:52Sue has chosen you for the final debate.

0:38:52 > 0:38:53How are you feeling?

0:38:53 > 0:38:56I'm very nervous and I think I owe Sue, considering I did

0:38:56 > 0:38:57lose her ?300 before.

0:38:57 > 0:38:58This is very true.

0:38:58 > 0:39:00This is where you can actually make it up to her.

0:39:00 > 0:39:05Will try.

0:39:05 > 0:39:06As you know, it is the final debate.

0:39:06 > 0:39:09So, you have two categories to choose from.

0:39:09 > 0:39:11Have a look at this and tell us what you fancy.

0:39:11 > 0:39:12I'm going to let you choose.

0:39:12 > 0:39:14Poets is great if it's the top three.

0:39:14 > 0:39:15You know.

0:39:15 > 0:39:16OK.

0:39:16 > 0:39:18Geography...

0:39:18 > 0:39:20I'm really bad at geography.

0:39:20 > 0:39:25OK, let's go with poets.

0:39:25 > 0:39:27OK, yeah.

0:39:27 > 0:39:30Let's do it.

0:39:30 > 0:39:31Poets, OK, we are going to do poets.

0:39:31 > 0:39:33Poets.

0:39:33 > 0:39:36OK, Sue, you have chosen poets, for better or worse.

0:39:36 > 0:39:41Best of luck with this, I know it's not what you're looking for,

0:39:41 > 0:39:49but ?2400 up for grabs and we will put 45

0:39:49 > 0:39:52but ?2400 up for grabs and we will put 45 seconds on the clock.

0:39:52 > 0:39:54Here comes your final debate question.

0:39:54 > 0:39:57Best of luck.

0:40:06 > 0:40:08Your final debate starts now.

0:40:08 > 0:40:10I'm quite sure Ted Hughes has.

0:40:10 > 0:40:12OK.

0:40:12 > 0:40:14When did it start, the poet Laureate?

0:40:14 > 0:40:15Yeah.

0:40:15 > 0:40:17When did it start?

0:40:17 > 0:40:19I'm leaning towards Sir John Betjeman, but again, I don't know.

0:40:19 > 0:40:21Wordsworth?

0:40:21 > 0:40:23When did it start?

0:40:23 > 0:40:25I have absolutely no clue.

0:40:25 > 0:40:28No clue.

0:40:28 > 0:40:31No clue at all.

0:40:31 > 0:40:33We are going to say Ted Hughes.

0:40:33 > 0:40:34I think so.

0:40:34 > 0:40:3520 seconds.

0:40:35 > 0:40:38Sir John Betjeman.

0:40:38 > 0:40:40What about Philip Larkin, who is he?

0:40:40 > 0:40:42God.

0:40:42 > 0:40:45William Wordsworth.

0:40:45 > 0:40:47Well...

0:40:47 > 0:40:49You're leaning towards Wordsworth.

0:40:49 > 0:40:52Milton.

0:40:52 > 0:40:53John Milton.

0:40:53 > 0:40:57Really.

0:40:57 > 0:40:59Ted Hughes, John Betjeman, and John Milton.

0:40:59 > 0:41:03OK, Sue.

0:41:03 > 0:41:05Not the ideal category for you.

0:41:05 > 0:41:08But you've given me three answers, you are saying Ted Hughes,

0:41:08 > 0:41:11Sir John Betjeman and John Milton.

0:41:11 > 0:41:14We need all three of those to be correct in order to walk away

0:41:14 > 0:41:15with the ?2400 today.

0:41:15 > 0:41:16Here we go.

0:41:16 > 0:41:22The first name you gave me was Ted Hughes.

0:41:22 > 0:41:26For ?2400 was Ted Hughes poet Laureate?

0:41:26 > 0:41:29He was!

0:41:29 > 0:41:35That was you.

0:41:35 > 0:41:38Ted Hughes was the poet Laureate between 1984 and 1998.

0:41:38 > 0:41:42The next name you gave me was Sir John Betjeman.

0:41:42 > 0:41:48To keep you in the game, for ?2400, was Sir John Betjeman poet Laureate?

0:41:48 > 0:41:54He was!

0:41:54 > 0:41:58Between 1972 and 1984.

0:41:58 > 0:42:05And so it all comes down to this one, Sue.

0:42:05 > 0:42:08John Milton.

0:42:08 > 0:42:12You mentioned Philip Larkin, you then thought William Wordsworth,

0:42:12 > 0:42:13but you them plumped for John Milton.

0:42:13 > 0:42:18If John Milton is correct, you've won ?2400.

0:42:18 > 0:42:21If it's incorrect, I'm afraid you do leave with nothing.

0:42:21 > 0:42:27Was John Milton poet laureate of ?2400?

0:42:27 > 0:42:34Was John Milton poet laureate for ?2400?

0:42:34 > 0:42:39So, so sorry, Sue.

0:42:39 > 0:42:45You did mention the correct answer, the correct answer was...

0:42:45 > 0:42:47William Wordsworth.

0:42:47 > 0:42:48It was Wordsworth.

0:42:48 > 0:42:49Oh no.

0:42:49 > 0:42:51That was me.

0:42:51 > 0:42:54We thought that would be too soon.

0:42:54 > 0:42:57Between 1843 and 1850, Wordsworth was poet Laureate.

0:42:57 > 0:43:01I'm so, so sorry, Sue, you absolutely brilliant player.

0:43:01 > 0:43:03Give it up one more time for Sue.

0:43:03 > 0:43:06APPLAUSE.

0:43:06 > 0:43:10That is it for Debatable.

0:43:10 > 0:43:13Just enough time for me to thank a fantastic panel to June Sarpong,

0:43:13 > 0:43:14to Liz Carr and to John Sergeant.

0:43:14 > 0:43:17CHEERING and APPLAUSE.

0:43:17 > 0:43:20I hope you have enjoyed watching and we will see you next time

0:43:20 > 0:43:21for more heated debates.

0:43:21 > 0:43:28But for now, it's goodbye from me.

0:43:49 > 0:43:50Bless me, Father, for I have sinned.

0:43:52 > 0:43:55They want us there. It's for people who knew him, Kat.

0:43:55 > 0:43:58No-one's really bad, are they? Rotten all the way through?