0:00:09 > 0:00:11CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:00:11 > 0:00:15Hello, and welcome to Debatable, where today one player must answer
0:00:15 > 0:00:19a series of tricky questions to try and walk away with a jackpot
0:00:19 > 0:00:20of over £3,000.
0:00:20 > 0:00:23But, as always, they're not on their own.
0:00:23 > 0:00:25They will have a panel of celebrities
0:00:25 > 0:00:27debating their way to the answers.
0:00:27 > 0:00:29Will they help or will they hinder?
0:00:29 > 0:00:31That's Debatable. So let's meet them.
0:00:31 > 0:00:33Talking the talk on today's show
0:00:33 > 0:00:35we have writer and comedian Susan Calman.
0:00:35 > 0:00:38We have comedian Tim Vine
0:00:38 > 0:00:41and Paralympian Tanni Grey-Thompson.
0:00:41 > 0:00:43APPLAUSE
0:00:46 > 0:00:48Susan, excited?
0:00:48 > 0:00:50- Ready to go?- Yes. I feel, having done it before,
0:00:50 > 0:00:52there's a little bit more on my head.
0:00:52 > 0:00:55I have to say, it's a very high-achieving panel.
0:00:55 > 0:00:57I think it's the first time ever, Tanni,
0:00:57 > 0:01:00- that we have a member of the House of Lords...- Yes.- ..on the panel.
0:01:00 > 0:01:01Thank you very much.
0:01:01 > 0:01:04How's the debating skills from the House of Lords?
0:01:04 > 0:01:06I suppose I have to admit to some.
0:01:06 > 0:01:09We're very nice in the House of Lords, very polite to each other.
0:01:09 > 0:01:10Yeah, we sort of give way.
0:01:10 > 0:01:13So I'm expecting the same level from our panel today.
0:01:13 > 0:01:15So what are you going to bring to this, Tim?
0:01:15 > 0:01:18- Specialist subject?- Well, I know a lot about Elvis Presley.
0:01:18 > 0:01:20I know a lot about darts.
0:01:20 > 0:01:23You name any finish, I'll tell you how to finish at darts.
0:01:23 > 0:01:24- Any number.- 135.
0:01:24 > 0:01:27Well, outer bull, treble 20, bull.
0:01:27 > 0:01:31Or you can go bull, treble 15, double top.
0:01:31 > 0:01:33I mean, there's many other ways.
0:01:33 > 0:01:35"Bull" seems to be the recurring theme.
0:01:35 > 0:01:36Well, who doesn't like to...
0:01:36 > 0:01:39How dare you!
0:01:39 > 0:01:41So that's the panel. Let's meet today's contestant.
0:01:41 > 0:01:43It is Alvin from London.
0:01:46 > 0:01:50- Good to see you, Alvin. Are you well?- I'm good. I'm very good.
0:01:50 > 0:01:52Tell us a little bit about yourself.
0:01:52 > 0:01:54Me, I am 37-year-old letting agent in London.
0:01:54 > 0:01:58So I basically drive around London all day, going into people's houses,
0:01:58 > 0:02:00having a nose around, showing other people.
0:02:00 > 0:02:02It's one of the best jobs in the world.
0:02:02 > 0:02:04What else do you do in your spare time?
0:02:04 > 0:02:08I've got many hobbies. Some I can't obviously discuss on TV.
0:02:08 > 0:02:10But I do like socialising with my friends.
0:02:10 > 0:02:12I think we should discuss...
0:02:12 > 0:02:15- Yeah. Yeah.- Anything goes, Alvin.
0:02:15 > 0:02:18Well, a couple of them involve knitting.
0:02:18 > 0:02:21- Knitting?- Yep, that's the least we'll say about that.
0:02:21 > 0:02:23Well, it had me in STITCHES.
0:02:23 > 0:02:25GROANS
0:02:25 > 0:02:26What else do you do, Alvin?
0:02:26 > 0:02:28I like going to the pub. Pub quizzes.
0:02:28 > 0:02:30Pub quizzes are one of my favourite.
0:02:30 > 0:02:32Do you get better with the alcohol
0:02:32 > 0:02:35- or worse as the night goes on?- The alcohol gives you more confidence,
0:02:35 > 0:02:37doesn't necessarily make you better.
0:02:37 > 0:02:39It makes you think that you know the answer, even if it's wrong.
0:02:39 > 0:02:42- How confident are you feeling currently?- Looking at the panel,
0:02:42 > 0:02:45- I am feeling very, very, very unconfident.- Oh...
0:02:46 > 0:02:50OK, let's get cracking, Alvin. Let's play Round 1.
0:02:52 > 0:02:54Alvin, this round is multiple choice.
0:02:54 > 0:02:56Each question has four possible answers.
0:02:56 > 0:02:58We need you to find the correct answer.
0:02:58 > 0:03:01Four questions in this round, £200 for each correct answer.
0:03:01 > 0:03:04- Excellent.- A potential £800 up for grabs.
0:03:04 > 0:03:06- Good maths.- OK. Here comes your first question.
0:03:21 > 0:03:23Um...let's see what the panel...
0:03:23 > 0:03:25Let's see what the panel think.
0:03:25 > 0:03:28I think that could potentially be quite wise on this.
0:03:28 > 0:03:30We will turn it over to our learned panel.
0:03:30 > 0:03:33- Your debate starts now. - Right, this is interesting.
0:03:33 > 0:03:35First of all, panel, can I ask you this question?
0:03:35 > 0:03:37- Yes.- Are those four bones?
0:03:37 > 0:03:39Well, sternum's the chest, isn't it?
0:03:39 > 0:03:41- Sternum's the chest.- Right. Femur's on the leg, is it?
0:03:41 > 0:03:43- Yes.- Where's the fibula?
0:03:43 > 0:03:45- Is that on the arm? - The fibula is the arm.
0:03:45 > 0:03:47The radius I thought was part of a circle.
0:03:47 > 0:03:50- Or is it there?- Radius and ulna are those two.
0:03:50 > 0:03:52- Yeah.- You should know more about this, Tanni,
0:03:52 > 0:03:54with your athletic background.
0:03:54 > 0:03:56- Yeah.- You should know what every bone is.
0:03:56 > 0:03:58I thought fibula was leg.
0:03:58 > 0:03:59Yes, fibula's leg.
0:03:59 > 0:04:01- Lower leg.- I mean, I'm not a medically qualified doctor.
0:04:01 > 0:04:04- Oh, you're not(?)- No.- But I have watched a lot of Casualty,
0:04:04 > 0:04:06so I feel quite qualified...
0:04:06 > 0:04:08- Fabulous. Right, OK.- ..to do this.
0:04:08 > 0:04:11So the sternum is definitely here, which is not a long bone.
0:04:11 > 0:04:13- No.- Is it not?- No.- So that's out.
0:04:13 > 0:04:15Fibula - arm.
0:04:15 > 0:04:16- Femur...- Femur's hip to knee.
0:04:16 > 0:04:18Femur's that one there.
0:04:18 > 0:04:21Fibula is knee to ankle, because you've got your fibula and tibia.
0:04:21 > 0:04:23So you do know! She was all like, "I don't know anything."
0:04:23 > 0:04:25And your radius and ulna, which I think is there.
0:04:25 > 0:04:28I'm sounding confident - I could be completely wrong!
0:04:28 > 0:04:29I'm taken in by your confidence.
0:04:29 > 0:04:30So, which one's longer?
0:04:30 > 0:04:33- Your arm?- You're right, that is the question - the longest one.
0:04:33 > 0:04:35The femur is the longest bone
0:04:35 > 0:04:37because I always understood that
0:04:37 > 0:04:41that was the longest bone in the body, was that one there.
0:04:41 > 0:04:43Right. I think that sounds...
0:04:43 > 0:04:45- I think so. - That makes a lot of sense.
0:04:45 > 0:04:48So we are going with, as the panel,
0:04:48 > 0:04:50femur, longest bone in the body.
0:04:50 > 0:04:54So, Alvin, after a very scientific game of head and shoulders,
0:04:54 > 0:04:58knees and toes, knees and toes, they have gone for femur.
0:04:58 > 0:05:00Yeah, their rationale pretty much made a lot of sense.
0:05:00 > 0:05:03And thinking of my own body...
0:05:04 > 0:05:08..I'm pretty sure that my thighs are longer than my forearm.
0:05:08 > 0:05:10So, yep, I'm going to go with...
0:05:10 > 0:05:13I'm not going with their answer because of their debate,
0:05:13 > 0:05:15I'm going based on my rationale.
0:05:15 > 0:05:17So... But I do respect your help.
0:05:17 > 0:05:19Great help. Please help in future.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21I'm going to go for femur.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23Alvin, this show is going to go on for quite a while
0:05:23 > 0:05:25and you're going to need these people's help.
0:05:25 > 0:05:28I know, I just realised that!
0:05:28 > 0:05:32The correct answer, for £200, to get you up and running is...
0:05:38 > 0:05:40It is femur!
0:05:40 > 0:05:41Well done, guys.
0:05:44 > 0:05:46The femur's regarded as the strongest
0:05:46 > 0:05:47as well as the longest bone.
0:05:47 > 0:05:49The sternum is the breastbone.
0:05:49 > 0:05:52You were correct about that. The radius is the bone in the lower arm.
0:05:52 > 0:05:54The fibula is the bone in the lower leg.
0:05:54 > 0:05:56We're up and running. £200.
0:05:59 > 0:06:01Here comes your next question, Alvin.
0:06:23 > 0:06:24Interesting.
0:06:24 > 0:06:26Um...
0:06:26 > 0:06:28Anyone you can rule out there?
0:06:28 > 0:06:31I think it's just because it's the one term
0:06:31 > 0:06:36that's throwing me off, because I don't know how long they all served.
0:06:36 > 0:06:37Obviously if I did, I'd know the answer.
0:06:37 > 0:06:41I think I need the help of my illustrious debaters again, please.
0:06:41 > 0:06:44Panel, can you shed some light on this for Alvin?
0:06:44 > 0:06:45Your debate starts now.
0:06:45 > 0:06:48Can I just nail my colours to the mast right at the top here?
0:06:48 > 0:06:50- Yes.- When those four names came up, I thought they were desserts.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52- Right.- So I'm afraid...
0:06:52 > 0:06:55Has anyone got any experience... about that?
0:06:55 > 0:06:56Well, conveniently...
0:06:56 > 0:06:59- Ah!- ..I used to work at the United Nations.
0:06:59 > 0:07:03- Boom!- Seriously?- Yes. It was an internship working in the...
0:07:03 > 0:07:06Basically the genetic database.
0:07:06 > 0:07:10I also worked in Currys selling vacuum cleaners, so...
0:07:10 > 0:07:14They are all Secretary Generals.
0:07:14 > 0:07:16Ban Ki-Moon - very famous Secretary General.
0:07:16 > 0:07:19Kofi Annan as well, and Boutros-Ghali.
0:07:19 > 0:07:23The reason I'm going with De Cuellar is, I didn't hear as much about him,
0:07:23 > 0:07:25which says to me he might have been involved for less time.
0:07:25 > 0:07:27- I don't know.- Was he the '80s?
0:07:27 > 0:07:29- It was a while ago, wasn't it? - I think it was the '80s, he was.
0:07:29 > 0:07:31I mean, it's just instinct with De Cuellar.
0:07:31 > 0:07:34I didn't memorise, when I was at the UN,
0:07:34 > 0:07:36how long the Secretary Generals...
0:07:36 > 0:07:39- Right.- I was too busy trying to find the toilets.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41- Right.- It's a big building in Geneva.
0:07:41 > 0:07:43I like your instinct on this.
0:07:43 > 0:07:45- What do you think, Tanni? - It's just instinct.
0:07:45 > 0:07:47That's all. What do you think, Tan?
0:07:47 > 0:07:49Instinct would have been De Cuellar.
0:07:49 > 0:07:52So it probably would have been a bigger story
0:07:52 > 0:07:55if Kofi Annan hadn't done two terms... Had just done one term.
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- Yes.- Same with Ban Ki-Moon. - OK, well, in that case,
0:07:58 > 0:08:00we've come to a decision, as a panel.
0:08:00 > 0:08:04We say Javier Perez de Cuellar is the only one of those people
0:08:04 > 0:08:07who's served one term as UN Secretary General.
0:08:07 > 0:08:10Perez de Cuellar. Now, what are the chances
0:08:10 > 0:08:13that one of our panellists worked at the United Nations?
0:08:13 > 0:08:16- I know!- It is like you were meant to be here.
0:08:16 > 0:08:17It is, isn't it?
0:08:17 > 0:08:21I've got no clue, so I'm going to go with the panel's answer again.
0:08:21 > 0:08:23Javier Perez de Cuellar.
0:08:23 > 0:08:26So, based on the fact that it is the only name that our panel
0:08:26 > 0:08:28have heard less than the others...
0:08:28 > 0:08:30LAUGHTER
0:08:30 > 0:08:32..you're going with Perez de Cuellar.
0:08:32 > 0:08:34OK. No pressure, panel.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37We're going for Javier Perez de Cuellar.
0:08:37 > 0:08:39Is it the correct answer, for £200?
0:08:46 > 0:08:47Oh, no!
0:08:47 > 0:08:52Boutros Boutros-Ghali was the first UN Secretary General
0:08:52 > 0:08:54- to only serve one term...- Sorry.
0:08:54 > 0:08:57..from 1992 to 1996.
0:08:57 > 0:09:00- Sorry.- So, Alvin, no money added there
0:09:00 > 0:09:03- but still plenty of time to get the cash up.- No worries.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05Here comes your next question.
0:09:21 > 0:09:23Hmm.
0:09:23 > 0:09:25- Interesting.- Interesting?
0:09:25 > 0:09:27Anything ringing a bell there, Alvin?
0:09:27 > 0:09:29Not at all. I mean, working in property,
0:09:29 > 0:09:33I should probably know this, but we don't really get involved that much
0:09:33 > 0:09:36with the gutter side of properties.
0:09:36 > 0:09:39- That's something an architect would probably do.- Hmm.
0:09:39 > 0:09:41And I'm just a mere letting agent.
0:09:41 > 0:09:43"Three bedrooms, give us the cash"?
0:09:43 > 0:09:45Pretty much.
0:09:45 > 0:09:47So, yeah, this will be a complete guess.
0:09:47 > 0:09:50So hopefully the panel have got some experience in architecture.
0:09:50 > 0:09:52Uh-oh!
0:09:52 > 0:09:54So, yeah, let's see what they think.
0:09:54 > 0:09:57OK, Alvin, we're going to throw this over to the panel.
0:09:57 > 0:09:59Panel, your debate starts now.
0:09:59 > 0:10:01A parapet is round the top, is it?
0:10:01 > 0:10:05- Mm-hm.- OK.- Well, part of the good news is, my dad was an architect.
0:10:05 > 0:10:09- There we are.- Except I didn't listen to a word he ever told me.
0:10:09 > 0:10:12Right... OK.
0:10:12 > 0:10:16- So, sorry.- The gargoyles are the nasty-faced things on buildings.
0:10:16 > 0:10:17That's just decorative, isn't it?
0:10:17 > 0:10:22- Yes.- I think there was something about scaring away evil spirits
0:10:22 > 0:10:26when they were on churches, and all that kind of malarkey.
0:10:26 > 0:10:29- I think a grotesque...- Is also a gargoyle-type thing, is it?
0:10:29 > 0:10:31Yes, I think they are the same kind of thing.
0:10:31 > 0:10:33- Yeah.- A gambrel and a gadroon...
0:10:33 > 0:10:37"Gadroon" sounds like a Scottish way of saying it.
0:10:37 > 0:10:39- Saying what? - "Where did the water go?"
0:10:39 > 0:10:41"It went gadroon the building."
0:10:41 > 0:10:43- Yeah!- But I'm not sure that's an architectural thing.
0:10:43 > 0:10:47- I've not heard of a gambrel or a gadroon.- I haven't, but...
0:10:47 > 0:10:50Are we agreed... We think it's possibly one of those two, though,
0:10:50 > 0:10:54- gambrel or gadroon?- I went with my gut on the last question...
0:10:54 > 0:10:58- Nice(!)- Really well.- You need to go with your gutter!- Well...
0:10:58 > 0:10:59LAUGHTER
0:10:59 > 0:11:02What's your two's gut instincts?
0:11:02 > 0:11:06Go on, what's your gut instinct, Tanni?
0:11:06 > 0:11:09Gambrel. For no other idea than I quite like the name of it.
0:11:09 > 0:11:12- Yeah.- Well, we're taking a GAMBREL, but...
0:11:12 > 0:11:14I'd be inclined to agree. Would you agree?
0:11:14 > 0:11:18I always agree with anyone who's in the House of Lords.
0:11:18 > 0:11:22- Exactly!- So...- Oh, dear. - I would say gambrel.
0:11:22 > 0:11:23Yeah, I'd go with gut.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26I always agree with anyone who's worked in the UN.
0:11:26 > 0:11:29I mean, we all make mistakes! Are we going to go with gambrel?
0:11:29 > 0:11:33- Yeah. Absolutely.- Right, here it is. We've decided the answer is gambrel.
0:11:33 > 0:11:37Tim there very definitely stating that it's a gambrel, whilst
0:11:37 > 0:11:42disassociating himself from both Susan and Tanni on that answer.
0:11:42 > 0:11:44Well, I like Tanni's reckoning
0:11:44 > 0:11:47that she likes the sound of the word, so...
0:11:47 > 0:11:48Sorry!
0:11:48 > 0:11:50Sometimes gut instincts can be right.
0:11:50 > 0:11:53So I'm going to go with gambrel, and if I'm wrong,
0:11:53 > 0:11:55then Tanni says that she's going to take me out for a pint.
0:11:55 > 0:11:58So, yeah, let's go with gambrel.
0:11:58 > 0:11:59OK.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02- Come on, then. - Going with the panel again.
0:12:02 > 0:12:04You're saying gambrel.
0:12:04 > 0:12:07The correct answer, for £200, is...
0:12:14 > 0:12:16- What?!- ..gargoyle.
0:12:16 > 0:12:18- What?- It was gargoyle.
0:12:18 > 0:12:21"Gargoyle" coming from the French, which means "throat",
0:12:21 > 0:12:24and that's where "to gargle" comes from as well.
0:12:24 > 0:12:27A gambrel is a roof with two sides,
0:12:27 > 0:12:30each of which has a shallow or slope above a steeper one.
0:12:30 > 0:12:34- That would drain the water, though. - That would drain the water.
0:12:34 > 0:12:36- Thank you.- It would drain the water. So, Alvin, no money there.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38There's still one question in Round 1.
0:12:38 > 0:12:41Let's see if we can get you up to £400.
0:12:41 > 0:12:42Here we go.
0:13:03 > 0:13:05I'm getting an inkling
0:13:05 > 0:13:10but I'm not going to kind of, like, sway the panel.
0:13:10 > 0:13:12I'm going to let them debate it to see if their thinking...
0:13:12 > 0:13:15- Nice.- ..fits in with what my initial thought was.
0:13:15 > 0:13:19OK. Panel, your debate starts now.
0:13:19 > 0:13:20I'll say this...
0:13:20 > 0:13:24I think it's down to two - toothbrush and safety razor.
0:13:24 > 0:13:27Now... Which is pretty much what happened on the last question.
0:13:27 > 0:13:30- Yes!- And possibly the one before that.
0:13:30 > 0:13:34I think we all need to shed what's happened and just go with it, OK?
0:13:34 > 0:13:36- Let it go.- Let's forget what's happened.
0:13:36 > 0:13:37It's a vacuum cleaner, innit?
0:13:37 > 0:13:39OK, I don't think...
0:13:39 > 0:13:42I agree. It's not the vacuum cleaner because the reason it's called
0:13:42 > 0:13:45a Hoover is that that was the first one that was mass produced.
0:13:45 > 0:13:49- That's right.- So I don't think it's the vacuum cleaner.
0:13:49 > 0:13:51- I agree with you.- I don't think it was stapler because they had...
0:13:51 > 0:13:54You know those little tags they had to keep things together?
0:13:54 > 0:13:56- Yeah.- So I don't think it's stapler.
0:13:56 > 0:13:57Right, think about this, Tim.
0:13:57 > 0:13:59- Hmm...- In films...
0:13:59 > 0:14:00Yes?
0:14:00 > 0:14:05They're still using cut-throat razors in Victorian times,
0:14:05 > 0:14:10which says to me it's the toothbrush because if they had safety razors,
0:14:10 > 0:14:14people would be using safety razors, but they're not in the films,
0:14:14 > 0:14:17- which are all practically documentaries of life.- Yes.
0:14:17 > 0:14:19- What do you think, Tanni? - Toothbrush.- I agree with you.
0:14:19 > 0:14:22I think it's toothbrush and I think we should be confident about this.
0:14:22 > 0:14:25- Yeah!- Perhaps we need to be a bit more confident and let Alvin
0:14:25 > 0:14:29really know that we have regained our confidence and we say,
0:14:29 > 0:14:31as a panel, we say toothbrush.
0:14:35 > 0:14:37With huge confidence!
0:14:37 > 0:14:41Never has a lack of knowledge been presented with such confidence.
0:14:41 > 0:14:44Alvin, they think toothbrush. What was your first inkling,
0:14:44 > 0:14:46that you kept to yourself?
0:14:46 > 0:14:50My first inkling that I kept to myself actually was toothbrush.
0:14:50 > 0:14:54- Why was that?- Basically, because Addis, the company Addis,
0:14:54 > 0:14:57I'm thinking of the products that they still produce now
0:14:57 > 0:15:00and they tend to be kind of, like, household products.
0:15:00 > 0:15:01So I knew it wasn't stapler.
0:15:01 > 0:15:05But, yeah, I'm just going to go with instinct and go with toothbrush.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09OK, this is the fourth time that you've agreed with the panel
0:15:09 > 0:15:12in this round. It has only wielded us...
0:15:12 > 0:15:13- Confident(!)- ..£200 so far.
0:15:13 > 0:15:15The correct answer is...
0:15:23 > 0:15:27- ..toothbrush!- Yes!- Thanks, guys.
0:15:27 > 0:15:29Stick with us, Alvin.
0:15:29 > 0:15:31Very well done.
0:15:31 > 0:15:33Although basic bristle toothbrushes
0:15:33 > 0:15:35were thought to have been invented in China,
0:15:35 > 0:15:39Addis created and invented the first modern-day version.
0:15:39 > 0:15:42Well done, Alvin. Another 200 quid into the prize pot.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45At the end of Round 1, you're up to £400!
0:15:47 > 0:15:51So, how do you think these fine human beings
0:15:51 > 0:15:52are doing on our panel so far?
0:15:52 > 0:15:54Anybody standing out so far for you?
0:15:54 > 0:15:57- In what way?- In the way that, at the end of the show,
0:15:57 > 0:16:00we have to pick one of these people to play the final debate.
0:16:00 > 0:16:02Oh, yeah. They're all in there.
0:16:02 > 0:16:05- They're all still in with a shout? - Yeah.- OK, keep a good eye on them
0:16:05 > 0:16:08because you can only pick one for the final debate.
0:16:08 > 0:16:10Now, let's see how they cope with pictures.
0:16:10 > 0:16:12It is time for Round 2.
0:16:14 > 0:16:16Alvin, Round 2 is our picture round.
0:16:16 > 0:16:19You must place three pictures in the correct order.
0:16:19 > 0:16:23Three questions in this round, £300 for each correct answer.
0:16:23 > 0:16:26- A possible £900 for the prize pot at the end of the show.- Cool.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29Here comes your first question.
0:16:46 > 0:16:47I can kind of remember when
0:16:47 > 0:16:49they happened and the timings
0:16:49 > 0:16:51and stuff like that.
0:16:51 > 0:16:52But they're all so close,
0:16:52 > 0:16:54which I guess is the point
0:16:54 > 0:16:55of the question.
0:16:55 > 0:16:57I have, like, three famous mates
0:16:57 > 0:16:58who are really, really good
0:16:58 > 0:17:00at things like that.
0:17:00 > 0:17:01Who are these mates?
0:17:01 > 0:17:04I've got a mate from Scotland - Susan.
0:17:04 > 0:17:07- Yes.- There's this guy who I met in a pub playing darts called Tim.
0:17:07 > 0:17:08A really great guy.
0:17:08 > 0:17:11And I was in the Houses of Parliament once
0:17:11 > 0:17:13and I bumped into this lady called Tanni.
0:17:13 > 0:17:14She's really lovely.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17And they just happen to be here today to help me.
0:17:17 > 0:17:19Oh, my God! What a coincidence!
0:17:19 > 0:17:21So, yeah, let's see what they think.
0:17:21 > 0:17:23OK, Alvin has decided to
0:17:23 > 0:17:25butter up our panel.
0:17:25 > 0:17:28- Yeah!- And the debate starts now.
0:17:28 > 0:17:29Yeah. Hmm.
0:17:29 > 0:17:31Any thoughts, Tanni? Any thoughts?
0:17:31 > 0:17:35I think Liz Hurley's the oldest dress.
0:17:35 > 0:17:38- Right.- But if we can identify the events...
0:17:38 > 0:17:41- Yes, good idea.- So premiere of Four Weddings And A Funeral.
0:17:41 > 0:17:43- Definitely.- Yes.
0:17:43 > 0:17:45Notorious Spice Girls performance
0:17:45 > 0:17:47at the Brit Awards, I believe.
0:17:47 > 0:17:48Ah, was it? OK.
0:17:48 > 0:17:50And she wore this at the Oscars.
0:17:50 > 0:17:52I'm sure this was the Oscar dress
0:17:52 > 0:17:53- she wore.- Right.
0:17:53 > 0:17:55This is the latest, to me.
0:17:55 > 0:17:56These two seem to me
0:17:56 > 0:17:57to be of a similar time.
0:17:57 > 0:17:59- Yes.- I think
0:17:59 > 0:18:00that the Spice Girls
0:18:00 > 0:18:03first burst on the scene '96, '97.
0:18:03 > 0:18:05Yep. I was a member of
0:18:05 > 0:18:07- the Spice Girls fan club...- Right.
0:18:07 > 0:18:09..at university.
0:18:09 > 0:18:10You paused, like there would be
0:18:10 > 0:18:12applause at that point.
0:18:12 > 0:18:14APPLAUSE
0:18:14 > 0:18:15Loved them.
0:18:15 > 0:18:18And my instinct is, it's late '90s.
0:18:18 > 0:18:20Can I reveal something
0:18:20 > 0:18:21which sounds like I may be blowing
0:18:21 > 0:18:23my own trumpet at this point?
0:18:23 > 0:18:25I was the first man on Channel 5
0:18:25 > 0:18:27and before me...
0:18:27 > 0:18:28That was 1997.
0:18:28 > 0:18:29March '97. Before me,
0:18:29 > 0:18:31the Spice Girls.
0:18:31 > 0:18:34- Because they did Five, Four, Three, Two, One as a song.- That's right.
0:18:34 > 0:18:35The question is,
0:18:35 > 0:18:38- when was Four Weddings And A Funeral?- I think mid-'90s.
0:18:38 > 0:18:41- So before...- I really do. - ..the Spice Girls.
0:18:41 > 0:18:43Before that. I have to bow to your
0:18:43 > 0:18:46- knowledge of Bjork there. - Tanni, what do you think?
0:18:46 > 0:18:48I think Four Weddings was before Spice Girls.
0:18:48 > 0:18:52- OK. So we're saying that it's Liz Hurley...- Yep.
0:18:52 > 0:18:54Like so.
0:18:54 > 0:18:58This is what we've gone with - Liz Hurley, Geri Halliwell, Bjork.
0:18:58 > 0:19:00The order of dresses.
0:19:01 > 0:19:04Excellent. I couldn't remember what
0:19:04 > 0:19:06premiere she wore that dress for,
0:19:06 > 0:19:07so if it was Four Weddings,
0:19:07 > 0:19:09I'm pretty sure that Four Weddings
0:19:09 > 0:19:11came out in 1994.
0:19:11 > 0:19:12The famous Britannia dress,
0:19:12 > 0:19:14I'm pretty sure that was
0:19:14 > 0:19:15the same year as Euro 96.
0:19:15 > 0:19:18I have no idea when Bjork wore that dress,
0:19:18 > 0:19:21so I can only assume it was after '96.
0:19:21 > 0:19:24I'm pretty confident that that's the right order.
0:19:24 > 0:19:26So, yeah, I'll keep as is
0:19:26 > 0:19:28and I'll go with the panel again.
0:19:29 > 0:19:33OK. Based on some stuff that's firing in your own mind
0:19:33 > 0:19:36as well as the panel's knowledge, you're going to go with them.
0:19:36 > 0:19:38For £300, is that the correct order?
0:19:45 > 0:19:48Yes! Well done!
0:19:50 > 0:19:52- Very nice.- Thank you.- Very nice.
0:19:52 > 0:19:55Liz Hurley wore the Versace creation -
0:19:55 > 0:19:57it became known as "that dress" -
0:19:57 > 0:20:00to the premiere of her then boyfriend's movie,
0:20:00 > 0:20:04Four Weddings And A Funeral. 1994. You were bang on with that, Alvin.
0:20:04 > 0:20:07Geri Halliwell wore a Union Jack dress to the Brits in 1997.
0:20:07 > 0:20:09- You said that.- OK.- Well done, Tim.
0:20:09 > 0:20:13Bjork wore her swan dress to the Oscars in 2001.
0:20:13 > 0:20:14OK, well done, Alvin.
0:20:14 > 0:20:17That's another £300 into your prize pot. You're up to £700.
0:20:23 > 0:20:26OK, Alvin. Let's have a look at your second picture question.
0:20:40 > 0:20:44I can't remember if it goes Venus, Mercury, Earth, Mars,
0:20:44 > 0:20:46or Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars.
0:20:46 > 0:20:48Hold that thought,
0:20:48 > 0:20:50as we toss this over to the panel.
0:20:50 > 0:20:53Susan has a knowing smile on her face.
0:20:53 > 0:20:55- Yeah.- Panel, your debate starts now.
0:20:55 > 0:20:59I know there's a rhyme that tells you, but I don't know the rhyme.
0:20:59 > 0:21:01I didn't even know there was a rhyme.
0:21:01 > 0:21:04Yes. There's something about "very much" or...
0:21:04 > 0:21:07- I don't know.- My father, mad about space and stuff,
0:21:07 > 0:21:09and whenever I go to visit my mum and dad,
0:21:09 > 0:21:11when I go out to the car to go,
0:21:11 > 0:21:13my dad always comes out and he points at...
0:21:13 > 0:21:15It's always Venus and Jupiter.
0:21:15 > 0:21:18He goes, "Oh, look at Venus. Looks wonderful.
0:21:18 > 0:21:20"Look at Venus, Tim. Isn't that wonderful?"
0:21:20 > 0:21:24But anyway, I think the answer is, you look at it in terms of
0:21:24 > 0:21:26how hospitable they are and how hot and...
0:21:26 > 0:21:28Well, mainly how hot, because it's to do with the sun.
0:21:28 > 0:21:32I think, currently, that is the right order we have them.
0:21:32 > 0:21:34So Mercury's closest to the sun?
0:21:34 > 0:21:37It's closer, and then Venus and then Mars.
0:21:37 > 0:21:38Mars is a long way out, isn't it?
0:21:38 > 0:21:40Mars is cold, isn't it?
0:21:40 > 0:21:42Mars is one that we could actually go and stand on.
0:21:42 > 0:21:45Venus is a kind of... Is a gas ball type thing,
0:21:45 > 0:21:48so I would opt with Mercury being closer than Venus.
0:21:48 > 0:21:52- I could be wrong.- They're all trying to go to Mars, aren't they?
0:21:52 > 0:21:55That is the most definite answer any of us have ever come up with
0:21:55 > 0:21:56on a basis that's not,
0:21:56 > 0:21:59"I've heard of Mercury more than I've heard of Venus."
0:21:59 > 0:22:02Well, I've gone with, "My dad says..."
0:22:02 > 0:22:04- My dad says!- I'm good with that.
0:22:04 > 0:22:05- Yes, I'm good with that.- I think so.
0:22:05 > 0:22:08Well, I mean, we seem to be getting better and better at this, Alvin.
0:22:08 > 0:22:11More and more confident and I hope you go with us, but, of course,
0:22:11 > 0:22:13it's up to you, but we have decided this is the order.
0:22:13 > 0:22:16Mercury, Venus, Mars.
0:22:16 > 0:22:19So, our panel coming together, pretty much agreeing on this.
0:22:19 > 0:22:21But, yeah, we've been a good team so far.
0:22:21 > 0:22:23- Wouldn't you say?- Yeah.- Yeah.
0:22:23 > 0:22:27- It's been great.- So, yeah, I'm going to go with what the panel says,
0:22:27 > 0:22:30which is, yeah, Mercury, Venus then Mars.
0:22:30 > 0:22:34And this will be entirely my fault if wrong.
0:22:34 > 0:22:40OK, Mercury closest to the sun, Venus, and then Mars furthest away.
0:22:40 > 0:22:42Is that the correct order?
0:22:48 > 0:22:50It is!
0:22:50 > 0:22:51Come on!
0:22:51 > 0:22:55- Well done.- Thank you.- Well done. - Getting better, it's getting better.
0:22:55 > 0:22:58Mercury's the nearest to the sun, then Venus.
0:22:58 > 0:23:03Third is Earth, which is the rock in the title Third Rock From The Sun.
0:23:03 > 0:23:04- Ah.- And then Mars.
0:23:04 > 0:23:08A useful mnemonic for remembering the order of the eight planets is,
0:23:08 > 0:23:12"My very educated mother just served us nachos."
0:23:12 > 0:23:14Nachos, that's right.
0:23:14 > 0:23:15- That's right.- But well played.
0:23:15 > 0:23:17Right to go with the panel that time.
0:23:17 > 0:23:19Another £300 in the prize pot.
0:23:19 > 0:23:21Alvin, you're up to £1,000.
0:23:23 > 0:23:27- Getting better.- OK, Alvin, your final picture question.
0:23:27 > 0:23:29Here it comes.
0:23:46 > 0:23:49- Do you know what, Paddy? - What, Alvin?
0:23:49 > 0:23:51- I've no idea.- Not a scooby?
0:23:51 > 0:23:53Not a Scooby-Doo.
0:23:53 > 0:23:56So, this is just going to be a complete guess
0:23:56 > 0:23:58unless the panel are definitive.
0:23:58 > 0:24:01But, either way, guess what's going to happen?
0:24:01 > 0:24:03I'm going to go with what they say!
0:24:03 > 0:24:05OK, panel. Absolutely no pressure.
0:24:05 > 0:24:07Alvin doesn't have a clue.
0:24:07 > 0:24:09Let's see how well read our panel are.
0:24:09 > 0:24:11- Your debate starts now. - Well, in my case,
0:24:11 > 0:24:13I think I know where these people are from
0:24:13 > 0:24:16but I don't know how many children they have. Tanni?
0:24:16 > 0:24:18- Atticus Finch. - To Kill A Mockingbird.
0:24:18 > 0:24:21- Yes.- Two children?- Two children. Scout and...- Ah, OK.- The other one.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24- The other one.- Yep. - Pride And Prejudice?
0:24:24 > 0:24:26- Mr and Mrs Bennet.- Yep. - Five girls?- Five girls.
0:24:26 > 0:24:28- I think.- Right.
0:24:28 > 0:24:29King Lear.
0:24:29 > 0:24:31- Not a clue.- No.
0:24:31 > 0:24:34Now, he didn't have more than five.
0:24:34 > 0:24:36I think that's the most.
0:24:36 > 0:24:38So it's one, three or four, probably, for that.
0:24:38 > 0:24:41- Or none.- So that's definitely that way.
0:24:41 > 0:24:45- Yeah, OK, yeah. - I just don't know how many children
0:24:45 > 0:24:47King Lear had.
0:24:47 > 0:24:49Of all the Shakespeare plays I know,
0:24:49 > 0:24:52that is the one I have never read.
0:24:52 > 0:24:54Bizarrely, I've learned a tiny bit of King Lear.
0:24:54 > 0:24:56"Thou think'st 'tis much that this contentious storm
0:24:56 > 0:24:58"Invades us to the skin So 'tis to thee
0:24:58 > 0:24:59"Thou'dst shun a bear
0:24:59 > 0:25:01"But if thy flight lay toward the raging sea,
0:25:01 > 0:25:03"Thou'ldst meet the bear i' the mouth.
0:25:03 > 0:25:05"When the mind's free, the body's delicate."
0:25:05 > 0:25:07CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:25:07 > 0:25:10That was actually from Othello, but...
0:25:10 > 0:25:12I have to say, that was a magnificent rendition there
0:25:12 > 0:25:15- of Act 3, Scene 4. - Is that what it was?
0:25:15 > 0:25:18Yes. In Act 3, Scene 5, he actually tells the kids to go to bed.
0:25:18 > 0:25:21- That's the one you should have learned.- Exactly, yeah.
0:25:21 > 0:25:23- So he did have kids. - Yeah.
0:25:23 > 0:25:25I'd have said none or one, but...
0:25:25 > 0:25:28- Yeah.- But I don't know.
0:25:28 > 0:25:31I think I'd go for one, actually.
0:25:31 > 0:25:33- What do we reckon? - Yeah, I think so.
0:25:33 > 0:25:35I don't think we're going to move anything from this.
0:25:35 > 0:25:37- No.- No.- So I think we should go with this.
0:25:37 > 0:25:40So here we go, then. King Lear, Atticus Finch, Mr and Mrs Bennet.
0:25:40 > 0:25:44I mean, in terms of actual numbers, we reckon possibly one, two, five.
0:25:44 > 0:25:46But I don't think we have to tell you that,
0:25:46 > 0:25:49we just have to give you the order, and that's what we've gone with.
0:25:50 > 0:25:53So, Alvin, you knew nothing about this.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55- No.- Tim has given us too much information,
0:25:55 > 0:25:57which is always a good thing.
0:25:57 > 0:26:00They believe that King Lear had the fewest children, then Atticus Finch,
0:26:00 > 0:26:03then Mr and Mrs Bennet with the most.
0:26:03 > 0:26:05OK.
0:26:05 > 0:26:09Well, yeah, they seem confident that Mr and Mrs Bennet had five kids.
0:26:09 > 0:26:11Atticus Finch with two.
0:26:11 > 0:26:14So if King Lear had zero or one, then, yeah,
0:26:14 > 0:26:17let's keep going with what we've been doing. Stay with the panel.
0:26:18 > 0:26:22This is a brilliant yet dangerous strategy
0:26:22 > 0:26:25of continuing to go with the panel.
0:26:25 > 0:26:29For £300, is that the correct order?
0:26:36 > 0:26:38It's the wrong order.
0:26:38 > 0:26:41Let's have a look at the correct order.
0:26:41 > 0:26:44- He's in the middle, I bet, King Lear.- Yeah.- Flip!
0:26:44 > 0:26:46Atticus Finch, you were right, two children.
0:26:46 > 0:26:50- Scout, the book's narrator, and... - Jem.- ..brother Jem.
0:26:50 > 0:26:55King Lear had three daughters, Regan, Cordelia and Goneril.
0:26:55 > 0:27:00The King Lear plot is about splitting the kingdom three ways
0:27:00 > 0:27:03- between three kids.- Oh, gosh. - If there was only one kid,
0:27:03 > 0:27:04it would have been a short play.
0:27:04 > 0:27:07- That hasn't showered us with glory, has it, really?- No. No.
0:27:07 > 0:27:11Mr and Mrs Bennet had five daughters whom Mrs Bennet wanted married off.
0:27:11 > 0:27:14So, no money for that, Alvin, but at the end of Round 2,
0:27:14 > 0:27:15you're still on £1,000.
0:27:18 > 0:27:21- I'm quite happy... - OK, Alvin, into Round 2.
0:27:21 > 0:27:22How's the panel faring?
0:27:22 > 0:27:25They're serving me really, really well.
0:27:25 > 0:27:27It's been a pleasure.
0:27:27 > 0:27:30Do you think there's going to be a possibility in the third round
0:27:30 > 0:27:32that you may go against the panel?
0:27:32 > 0:27:36It depends. If I know for sure, then I'm just going to go with myself.
0:27:36 > 0:27:40And if it's Shakespeare, well, you know we're always here for you.
0:27:40 > 0:27:42I once performed in The Tempest.
0:27:42 > 0:27:44STORMED it!
0:27:44 > 0:27:45LAUGHTER
0:27:45 > 0:27:47OK, Alvin. One round still to go.
0:27:47 > 0:27:50Let's see if we can get the money up. Let's play Round 3.
0:27:53 > 0:27:55In Round 3, Alvin, you'll face questions that contain statements
0:27:55 > 0:27:57about a person, a place or a thing.
0:27:57 > 0:28:00There'll be three statements, but only one of them will be correct.
0:28:00 > 0:28:04It's the final round, so there's £500 for each correct answer.
0:28:04 > 0:28:07Best of luck. Here comes your first question.
0:28:26 > 0:28:29I know that the French gave it to America as, like,
0:28:29 > 0:28:31a present or something like that.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33But I don't know if it was built in France.
0:28:33 > 0:28:34I've no idea how tall it is.
0:28:34 > 0:28:38And, yeah, the hand thing,
0:28:38 > 0:28:40that's...50-50.
0:28:40 > 0:28:43So, yeah, let's see what my mates think.
0:28:43 > 0:28:47OK. Let's see what your mates think, otherwise known as the panel.
0:28:47 > 0:28:48Panel, your debate starts now.
0:28:48 > 0:28:52- Right, go on, Tanni. - Is there a version in France?
0:28:52 > 0:28:54Have I just dreamt this, that New York's got one
0:28:54 > 0:28:57- and there's one in France? - There is a version in France,
0:28:57 > 0:29:00- a smaller version in France. - Yeah, smaller.- Yeah.
0:29:00 > 0:29:02I agree with what Alvin said,
0:29:02 > 0:29:05that the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France.
0:29:05 > 0:29:06This I seem to remember.
0:29:06 > 0:29:09But I also agree with his wondering whether it was built there.
0:29:09 > 0:29:11I don't know. Although I've got a vague and, again,
0:29:11 > 0:29:13this may be absolute nonsense,
0:29:13 > 0:29:16a vague memory of seeing it in a very old photograph
0:29:16 > 0:29:18- on the back of a ship.- OK.
0:29:18 > 0:29:20No, but that may be total nonsense.
0:29:20 > 0:29:23Listen, it could have been Planet Of The Apes you're thinking of.
0:29:23 > 0:29:27- It may be, yeah.- But if you'd asked me, I thought it was sail...
0:29:27 > 0:29:29- OK.- I thought bits of it were sailed over.
0:29:29 > 0:29:32- This is good, though.- But... - Well, it's a bit of a rubbish gift.
0:29:32 > 0:29:37It's like giving your kids a Lego Hogwarts and then saying,
0:29:37 > 0:29:40"I'll leave you to it," and not helping them build it.
0:29:40 > 0:29:44- I agree.- So I think it's a rubbish gift if they have to build it.
0:29:44 > 0:29:45Can we discount the last one?
0:29:45 > 0:29:47I thought she held the torch in the right hand
0:29:47 > 0:29:49because doesn't she have the Bible in her left hand?
0:29:49 > 0:29:52Yes, there's a lot of symbolism as to which one it is.
0:29:52 > 0:29:54I thought it was the right hand for the torch.
0:29:54 > 0:29:56- OK, let's discount that. - We'll discount that one.
0:29:56 > 0:29:59- OK.- Fine.- I also think 500ft is quite tall.
0:29:59 > 0:30:01- Yeah?- So I think it's a bit smaller than that.
0:30:01 > 0:30:04- OK.- Yeah. I think we've made a decision here.
0:30:04 > 0:30:07- Yes, we have, yeah.- I think we have. OK, so our decision is this.
0:30:07 > 0:30:10We feel that the figure was first built in France.
0:30:10 > 0:30:13Tanni, you really helped me out by discounting C,
0:30:13 > 0:30:15because that's just kind of, like, yeah...
0:30:15 > 0:30:18So, yeah, I'm going to go with the panel, believe it or not.
0:30:18 > 0:30:20Alvin going with the panel.
0:30:20 > 0:30:23The figure was first built in France.
0:30:23 > 0:30:27For £500, Alvin, the correct statement is...
0:30:27 > 0:30:29I'm a bit worried about it now.
0:30:29 > 0:30:31Mmm-mmm...
0:30:35 > 0:30:39- Yes!- Well done. Well done!
0:30:40 > 0:30:42Very well played, very well worked out.
0:30:42 > 0:30:46The total overall height from the base of the pedestal foundation
0:30:46 > 0:30:50to the tip of the torch is 305 feet, 6 inches.
0:30:50 > 0:30:53She holds the torch in her right hand.
0:30:53 > 0:30:55And you were, of course, right.
0:30:55 > 0:30:58It was first built in France, then it was taken apart,
0:30:58 > 0:31:02shipped over and then put back together again in New York.
0:31:02 > 0:31:05Very well played, everyone. That's 500 quid into the prize pot,
0:31:05 > 0:31:07taking you up to £1,500, Alvin.
0:31:12 > 0:31:14Here comes your next question.
0:31:31 > 0:31:34Um... I know it's not A. But most populous?
0:31:34 > 0:31:37I'm sure Asia is more populous than Africa.
0:31:37 > 0:31:39So you're pretty sure it's not A.
0:31:39 > 0:31:43You're thinking Asia might be the most populous continent.
0:31:43 > 0:31:45Let's see if our panel can add anything to that.
0:31:45 > 0:31:47Panel, your debate starts now.
0:31:47 > 0:31:49Well, we go to...
0:31:49 > 0:31:52- Don't...- If only we had someone on the panel...
0:31:52 > 0:31:55- Yes, exactly.- ..who had knowledge of...- Who's been to eight games.
0:31:55 > 0:31:58- Yes.- Exactly, yeah. - Yes.- So, come on, then, Tanni.
0:31:58 > 0:32:01No, I don't think they've hosted an Olympics.
0:32:01 > 0:32:02So, they've hosted the World Cup...
0:32:02 > 0:32:06So there's never been an Olympics in Africa?
0:32:06 > 0:32:09- In Africa?- No.- I've just been trying to think about that.
0:32:09 > 0:32:10Extraordinary, if it's the case.
0:32:10 > 0:32:12No African countries?
0:32:12 > 0:32:14- No.- No?- No.
0:32:14 > 0:32:16OK, so we're discounting number one.
0:32:16 > 0:32:17- Yes.- I think...
0:32:17 > 0:32:19I have to agree with Alvin.
0:32:19 > 0:32:23My initial thought was that Asia was the most populous continent, but,
0:32:23 > 0:32:24I mean, that's just...
0:32:24 > 0:32:26I would agree with you.
0:32:26 > 0:32:29Which would say the bottom statement was perhaps the true one,
0:32:29 > 0:32:32simply because we've discounted the other two.
0:32:32 > 0:32:35- What do you think?- My only problem with the bottom one is,
0:32:35 > 0:32:38what happens if there's an ostrich in a zoo
0:32:38 > 0:32:40and it escapes in Melbourne?
0:32:40 > 0:32:43It's then living in the wild and found in the wild.
0:32:43 > 0:32:45- Yes.- I presume this is discounted, is it?
0:32:45 > 0:32:48And, of course, you haven't even thought of Bernie Clifton.
0:32:48 > 0:32:50- No.- No, that's right.- No.
0:32:50 > 0:32:54I used to do a joke about... Rod Hull has hijacked an aeroplane.
0:32:54 > 0:32:55He's holding three ostriches.
0:32:55 > 0:32:57LAUGHTER
0:32:57 > 0:33:00- So I think we've made a decision. - Yeah, I think so.
0:33:00 > 0:33:02Using the expertise of the two women either side of me,
0:33:02 > 0:33:06we have come to the conclusion that the only continent
0:33:06 > 0:33:09where ostriches are found in the wild is Africa.
0:33:09 > 0:33:10So, by a process of elimination,
0:33:10 > 0:33:15they believe that ostriches are found only in the wild in Africa.
0:33:15 > 0:33:17Yeah, again, that was my gut
0:33:17 > 0:33:20and that's worked more often than it has not worked.
0:33:20 > 0:33:25So discount A and B, and let's stick with C.
0:33:25 > 0:33:27OK.
0:33:27 > 0:33:30So, once again, you are going with the panel.
0:33:30 > 0:33:34Is Africa the only continent where ostriches are found in the wild?
0:33:34 > 0:33:38For £500, the correct statement is...
0:33:44 > 0:33:47It is!
0:33:47 > 0:33:48Very well done.
0:33:48 > 0:33:50You can breathe again now.
0:33:50 > 0:33:52Oh, my God, what have I forgotten?!
0:33:52 > 0:33:55- I know.- Well done. To date, no African country, unbelievably,
0:33:55 > 0:33:59has ever hosted the Olympic Games.
0:33:59 > 0:34:01Both South Africa and Kenya have been in talks
0:34:01 > 0:34:04about being contenders for the 2024 games.
0:34:04 > 0:34:08It is the second most populous continent, behind Asia.
0:34:08 > 0:34:10But well played, Alvin.
0:34:10 > 0:34:13Another 500 quid in the prize pot. You are up to £2,000.
0:34:16 > 0:34:19Still another 500 up for grabs.
0:34:19 > 0:34:22Let's see if we can get it in the prize pot.
0:34:22 > 0:34:24Here comes your final question.
0:34:41 > 0:34:44I have no clue. I'm not really into literature.
0:34:44 > 0:34:47But for some reason, I don't know why,
0:34:47 > 0:34:50but it's ringing in my head, maybe someone mentioned it
0:34:50 > 0:34:51and I just overheard,
0:34:51 > 0:34:54but I think Gertrude was actually her first name.
0:34:54 > 0:34:56But I'm going to see what the panel think.
0:34:56 > 0:35:00- OK.- Maybe they know.- Let's see what our panel make of this.
0:35:00 > 0:35:02- Your debate starts now.- OK,
0:35:02 > 0:35:07anyone got the faintest idea, initially, looking at that?
0:35:07 > 0:35:10I think her books were published far before the 1920s.
0:35:10 > 0:35:11- Right.- Because I think...
0:35:11 > 0:35:13I think they were around before then.
0:35:13 > 0:35:16Wasn't there a big thing on Beatrix Potter a few years ago,
0:35:16 > 0:35:20- which would've made it the 100-year anniversary, wouldn't it?- Yes.
0:35:20 > 0:35:23I don't know if her first name was Gertrude or not.
0:35:23 > 0:35:25It's a tough one. I said to someone, "Do you want me to do an impression
0:35:25 > 0:35:28"of the Beatrix Potter character called Puddleduck?"
0:35:28 > 0:35:31He said, "Jemima?" I said, "No, I can do the voice as well."
0:35:31 > 0:35:33LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:35:35 > 0:35:37I don't think she was a sheep farmer.
0:35:37 > 0:35:39- No?- Because that's quite intensive.
0:35:39 > 0:35:41I think she was more a refined lady, wasn't she?
0:35:41 > 0:35:44I also like the fact that it says an award-winning sheep farmer.
0:35:44 > 0:35:46They could have just said sheep farmer,
0:35:46 > 0:35:49we'd still be having this conversation, but award-winning?
0:35:49 > 0:35:53- I didn't know people won awards for farming sheep.- So Gertrude...
0:35:53 > 0:35:56I mean that's the one that's standing out for me.
0:35:56 > 0:36:01Yeah, it sort of is for me, as well, because people having that thing of,
0:36:01 > 0:36:06you know, you change your name to give yourself a nice nom de plume.
0:36:06 > 0:36:09- Yeah.- Yeah. - Especially as a woman writer.
0:36:09 > 0:36:10- Yes.- Yes.
0:36:10 > 0:36:13So, she's probably an award-winning sheep farmer now,
0:36:13 > 0:36:17but the bottom one is the one that's kind of sticking out for me.
0:36:17 > 0:36:18I think that's conclusive, then?
0:36:18 > 0:36:23I think it is conclusive, but it's one of our more rocky conclusions.
0:36:23 > 0:36:25And that's saying something!
0:36:25 > 0:36:29OK, so we've come to a conclusion, albeit on a shaky basis.
0:36:29 > 0:36:32We think that Beatrix Potter, her first name was Gertrude.
0:36:33 > 0:36:35So, Alvin,
0:36:35 > 0:36:37the panel agreeing with you.
0:36:37 > 0:36:42Yeah. I'll go with good old gut here, and the panel, of course.
0:36:42 > 0:36:45So, yeah, let's stick with C. Her first name was Gertrude.
0:36:45 > 0:36:47OK, it was your first thought.
0:36:47 > 0:36:51For £500, to get you up to £2,500 for our final debate,
0:36:51 > 0:36:53the correct statement is...
0:37:03 > 0:37:06- She was an award-winning sheep farmer.- Of course she was!
0:37:06 > 0:37:09I mean, how would you make that up? Of course she was.
0:37:09 > 0:37:13Beatrix Potter was very committed to the conservation of Herdwick sheep.
0:37:13 > 0:37:16She had her own flock and was keen to breed the best animals,
0:37:16 > 0:37:19- winning local awards...- So specific. - ..at the agricultural fairs.
0:37:19 > 0:37:22Her first book was published in 1902.
0:37:22 > 0:37:23Her first name was Helen.
0:37:23 > 0:37:26Beatrix was her second name.
0:37:26 > 0:37:29Not to worry, Alvin. You've done really well.
0:37:29 > 0:37:31At the end of Round 3, your prize pot is £2,000.
0:37:31 > 0:37:33Not bad.
0:37:36 > 0:37:39So, one question between you and £2,000.
0:37:39 > 0:37:42Any idea what you might do with the money if you win?
0:37:42 > 0:37:45I might take these guys down the pub for, like,
0:37:45 > 0:37:47- a game of darts or something like that.- Yeah.
0:37:47 > 0:37:49That would be quite interesting. Could do a lot with £2,000.
0:37:49 > 0:37:52You do know that these three will hold you to that?
0:37:52 > 0:37:54Well, let's hope one of them helps me to win, then.
0:37:54 > 0:37:57OK. Alvin, in the final debate, you will face one question.
0:37:57 > 0:38:01That question will have six answers but only three are correct.
0:38:01 > 0:38:04We need you to find all three answers to leave with the money,
0:38:04 > 0:38:06but, of course, you're not alone.
0:38:06 > 0:38:09You will be playing with one of these fine panellists.
0:38:09 > 0:38:11They will be assisting you in your quest.
0:38:11 > 0:38:14You and your panellist will have 45 seconds to debate
0:38:14 > 0:38:16and then we need an answer. OK, Alvin,
0:38:16 > 0:38:18who would you like to join you in the final debate?
0:38:18 > 0:38:20Will it be Scottish Spice, Susan Calman?
0:38:20 > 0:38:23Will it be Tim Vine, who may have to call his dad?
0:38:23 > 0:38:25Or will you go for gold with Tanni Grey-Thompson?
0:38:25 > 0:38:28Ooh... It's... I can't even flip a coin, can I?
0:38:28 > 0:38:30Because it's three people.
0:38:30 > 0:38:32I mean Tanni and Tim have been really helpful,
0:38:32 > 0:38:34but I love the way Susan thinks.
0:38:34 > 0:38:37- Oh...- And I want her to join me.
0:38:37 > 0:38:40OK, Susan, would you please join us as we play the final debate?
0:38:40 > 0:38:42Go on, Susan!
0:38:48 > 0:38:52So, Susan, Alvin has put his faith in you for the final debate.
0:38:52 > 0:38:54I mean, he's clearly made the right decision.
0:38:54 > 0:38:56Absolutely. Of the three of us...
0:38:57 > 0:38:59I like to say, though,
0:38:59 > 0:39:01because it was very much how do we feel about things,
0:39:01 > 0:39:03- rather than facts.- Yes.
0:39:03 > 0:39:05Which is a nice way of doing things.
0:39:05 > 0:39:07So, look, it is the final debate.
0:39:07 > 0:39:09You've got two categories to choose from.
0:39:09 > 0:39:12Have a look and pick one from these.
0:39:15 > 0:39:18See, Soaps would have been good about ten years ago.
0:39:18 > 0:39:21- But I don't watch soaps any more. - Mm-hm.- Then Geography, I think...
0:39:21 > 0:39:26Geography is one of the worst subjects I can possibly imagine.
0:39:26 > 0:39:30- OK, so...- So if you choose that, I'm going to be right here.
0:39:30 > 0:39:33- Pepping me.- Yeah.- So, in that case, I think we've solved it.
0:39:33 > 0:39:36Let's go with Soaps because...
0:39:36 > 0:39:38- Yeah.- Yeah. I think go with Soaps.
0:39:38 > 0:39:40OK, you're going with Soaps.
0:39:40 > 0:39:42£2,000 up for grabs.
0:39:42 > 0:39:44We're going to put 45 seconds on the clock.
0:39:44 > 0:39:47Alvin, best of luck. We're all hoping you do this.
0:39:47 > 0:39:50- Here comes your final debate question.- OK.
0:40:00 > 0:40:02- OK. Yeah.- Definitely.
0:40:04 > 0:40:06No... Was he?
0:40:06 > 0:40:08- No.- Maybe?- Nope.- No?
0:40:08 > 0:40:09Later.
0:40:09 > 0:40:11Possibly.
0:40:11 > 0:40:12- Yes.- Yep, definitely.
0:40:15 > 0:40:17- Your time starts now. - OK, not Hattie Tavernier.
0:40:17 > 0:40:20That was far later on. Lofty Holloway, I think, was later on.
0:40:20 > 0:40:23Pat Butcher was later on. If I was going to pick any three, instinct,
0:40:23 > 0:40:25Ian Beale who's been in almost every episode.
0:40:25 > 0:40:28- Definitely.- Pauline Fowler was one of the original family,
0:40:28 > 0:40:30and Den Watts.
0:40:30 > 0:40:33I know Pat Butcher was later, I know Hattie Tavernier was later.
0:40:33 > 0:40:36It's whether Lofty Holloway was in there as well.
0:40:36 > 0:40:39- So...- Who is Lofty Holloway? - Lofty, um, married Michelle, took...
0:40:39 > 0:40:42- Even though Den Watts...- Oh, Lofty, the one with the glasses?
0:40:42 > 0:40:45- Glasses.- Oh, so that's a wild card. - I think it's Ian, Pauline...
0:40:45 > 0:40:48- And Den Watts.- And it's whether it's Lofty or Den.
0:40:48 > 0:40:52OK, I'm loving your rationale. Ian was definitely in the first episode.
0:40:52 > 0:40:54- Ten seconds.- I'd go Lofty. Go Lofty. Ian, Lofty...
0:40:54 > 0:40:56- And Pauline.- Pauline. - Ian, Lofty, Pauline.
0:40:56 > 0:40:59- Sure? Definitely not Den Watts? - Den Watts, I think...
0:40:59 > 0:41:01- I don't know. What's your choice? - OK.- You choose!
0:41:01 > 0:41:04- Three answers, Alvin.- Ian Beale.
0:41:04 > 0:41:06Pauline Fowler.
0:41:06 > 0:41:09- Lofty Holloway.- Lofty Holloway.
0:41:09 > 0:41:10Oh!
0:41:10 > 0:41:13OK, Alvin. £2,000 up for grabs.
0:41:13 > 0:41:16We need all three of these to be correct.
0:41:16 > 0:41:20Best of luck. First name you gave me was Ian Beale.
0:41:20 > 0:41:25Did Ian Beale appear in the very first episode of EastEnders?
0:41:29 > 0:41:32It's a correct answer. He did.
0:41:32 > 0:41:37As a very young teenager back in 1985.
0:41:37 > 0:41:40The next name you gave me was Pauline Fowler.
0:41:40 > 0:41:43Was Pauline Fowler in the very first episode of EastEnders,
0:41:43 > 0:41:45to keep us on track for £2,000?
0:41:53 > 0:41:55She was!
0:41:55 > 0:41:58She was there in the second scene of EastEnders in 1985.
0:41:58 > 0:42:01- It's going to be Den. - I know, I know.
0:42:01 > 0:42:03I know it's going to be Den Watts instead of Lofty.
0:42:03 > 0:42:05So, it all comes down to this.
0:42:05 > 0:42:07You guys thought it may have been Den Watts,
0:42:07 > 0:42:10then you went to Lofty Holloway, then you went back to Den Watts,
0:42:10 > 0:42:12then you gave me Lofty Holloway.
0:42:12 > 0:42:15If Lofty Holloway is the correct answer, you leave with £2,000.
0:42:15 > 0:42:18If it's the wrong answer, I'm afraid you leave with nothing.
0:42:18 > 0:42:24Alvin, was Lofty Holloway in the very first episode of EastEnders,
0:42:24 > 0:42:25for £2,000?
0:42:34 > 0:42:38It's the wrong answer, Alvin.
0:42:38 > 0:42:39- Sorry, mate.- Don't worry.
0:42:39 > 0:42:42Let's have a look at the correct answer.
0:42:42 > 0:42:44- Den Watts.- It was Den Watts!
0:42:44 > 0:42:46Den Watts was the first character
0:42:46 > 0:42:49to speak in the very first episode of EastEnders.
0:42:49 > 0:42:52Lofty didn't appear until a week later.
0:42:52 > 0:42:54It was so close, Alvin.
0:42:54 > 0:42:57- I'm so sorry.- I'm so sorry, but very well played.
0:42:57 > 0:43:00- Thanks for coming to play.- Pleasure. - Give it up one more time for Alvin.
0:43:00 > 0:43:03- Sorry.- It's OK.- I'm so sorry.
0:43:03 > 0:43:05That is it for Debatable.
0:43:05 > 0:43:08Just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,
0:43:08 > 0:43:11to Susan Calman, Tim Vine and Tanni Grey-Thompson.
0:43:11 > 0:43:14I hope you've enjoyed watching.
0:43:14 > 0:43:17We will see you next time for more heated debates.
0:43:17 > 0:43:19For now, it's goodbye from me.