Episode 30

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0:00:12 > 0:00:16Hello and welcome to Debatable where today one player must answer

0:00:16 > 0:00:19a series of tricky questions to try to walk away with a jackpot

0:00:19 > 0:00:21of over £3,000.

0:00:21 > 0:00:23But they're not on their own.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25They will have a panel of well-known faces debating their way

0:00:25 > 0:00:28to the answers. Will they help or will they hinder?

0:00:28 > 0:00:29As always, that is debatable.

0:00:29 > 0:00:30So let's meet them.

0:00:32 > 0:00:35We have broadcaster Dame Esther Rantzen.

0:00:35 > 0:00:39We have a musician and cheese maker Alex James

0:00:39 > 0:00:40and comedian Hal Cruttenden.

0:00:40 > 0:00:41APPLAUSE

0:00:44 > 0:00:47It is a thing of beauty, our panel today.

0:00:47 > 0:00:49Alex, you're in the centre chair.

0:00:49 > 0:00:51How are you going to rule today's panel?

0:00:51 > 0:00:54- Well, I don't know about ruling. - You are going to be delegating.

0:00:54 > 0:00:56Yes, definitely delegate, that's the way forward.

0:00:56 > 0:00:58How are your debating skills?

0:00:58 > 0:01:00I think they've probably got better.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02I was far too impatient to listen when I was young.

0:01:02 > 0:01:05You know, I loved the certainty of youth but I was the bass player

0:01:05 > 0:01:08- in a band and the job of the bass... - In a very big band, come on.

0:01:08 > 0:01:10In one of the biggest bands in the world.

0:01:10 > 0:01:14Well, yes, and I guess the job of the bass is to underpin the harmony

0:01:14 > 0:01:16and support the upper voices,

0:01:16 > 0:01:18so I guess that was a sort of levelling thing.

0:01:18 > 0:01:22So I hope I can bring that into my debating technique.

0:01:22 > 0:01:24So, Hal, how are your debating skills?

0:01:24 > 0:01:28I was in the debating society at school but I was a bit of an idiot.

0:01:28 > 0:01:30I sort of did it for fun but we had...

0:01:30 > 0:01:34Two years below me was the ex-chancellor George Osborne and he

0:01:34 > 0:01:37was two years below us and he used to turn up, little podgy junior

0:01:37 > 0:01:40would come up and make points from the floor and be very sort of...

0:01:40 > 0:01:43Really annoying little bloke he was.

0:01:43 > 0:01:46So even then you saw that he would go on to great things?

0:01:46 > 0:01:51Yes, I think I knew from then that he'd go far in politics just because

0:01:51 > 0:01:52of the personality he had.

0:01:52 > 0:01:58Very, very diplomatic there, Hal. Very diplomatic.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01Esther, of course, you ran for Parliament yourself.

0:02:01 > 0:02:06Yes, in Luton South, I was an independent candidate in 2010.

0:02:06 > 0:02:11We did 12 hustings, which were great, and I lost my deposit,

0:02:11 > 0:02:13so I don't know quite what that proves,

0:02:13 > 0:02:15but it maybe proved something about my debating.

0:02:15 > 0:02:16That is the panel.

0:02:16 > 0:02:18Let's meet today's contestant.

0:02:18 > 0:02:19It's Maxine from London.

0:02:19 > 0:02:21APPLAUSE

0:02:21 > 0:02:23Welcome to the show. How are you doing?

0:02:23 > 0:02:26- Very well.- Tell us a little bit about yourself, Maxine.

0:02:26 > 0:02:31Well, after 22 years at a major auction house as a furniture expert,

0:02:31 > 0:02:35I left a year ago, took my year off, had a wonderful time,

0:02:35 > 0:02:36did lots of travelling,

0:02:36 > 0:02:38and now I've set up as an independent art consultant.

0:02:38 > 0:02:41And what does an independent art consultant do?

0:02:41 > 0:02:42I'll be visiting country houses,

0:02:42 > 0:02:45I'll be taking clients to visit auctions,

0:02:45 > 0:02:48I'll be doing some academic work as well.

0:02:48 > 0:02:50I've just finished something for the National Trust.

0:02:50 > 0:02:51I'll also be teaching.

0:02:51 > 0:02:55Maxine, can I just say that on immediately meeting you,

0:02:55 > 0:02:58you may be way too highbrow for this show?

0:02:58 > 0:02:59LAUGHTER

0:02:59 > 0:03:02I'm just putting it out there.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05I don't think so. Looking at the members of the panel, they've all

0:03:05 > 0:03:09got a lot to offer and have had great careers, having great careers.

0:03:09 > 0:03:11What do you make of our artefacts here today?

0:03:11 > 0:03:13How would you categorise our panel?

0:03:13 > 0:03:18Well, they are in a very good state of preservation and they have

0:03:18 > 0:03:22illustrious provenance so they're definitely good for sale.

0:03:23 > 0:03:24Well, look, keep a close eye on them.

0:03:24 > 0:03:27You will be choosing one of them for the Final Debate.

0:03:27 > 0:03:28- OK.- Ready to play?

0:03:28 > 0:03:32- Ready to play.- OK, here we go, Maxine, it's time for Round One.

0:03:35 > 0:03:38OK, Maxine, round one is multiple choice, four possible answers.

0:03:38 > 0:03:40We need you to find the correct answer,

0:03:40 > 0:03:45£200 up for grabs for each correct answer, a possible £800.

0:03:45 > 0:03:46Here we go, best of luck.

0:04:04 > 0:04:08I think I know but as there is a musician on the panel,

0:04:08 > 0:04:10I'd like maybe to put it to the panel.

0:04:10 > 0:04:13I see what you are doing here, Maxine.

0:04:13 > 0:04:16You think you might know but you'd like to test our panel with this.

0:04:16 > 0:04:19Panel, your debate starts now.

0:04:19 > 0:04:21The golden age of songwriting.

0:04:21 > 0:04:23Do you love a musical?

0:04:23 > 0:04:28I love a musical and I felt so strongly about it that I used to

0:04:28 > 0:04:31test my children on the great American musical

0:04:31 > 0:04:33when we were driving to school.

0:04:33 > 0:04:36They had to know all the songs, they had to know all the composers.

0:04:36 > 0:04:38But they failed maths and English!

0:04:38 > 0:04:39Indeed.

0:04:39 > 0:04:41They did appallingly.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44The great American musical, so I do know.

0:04:44 > 0:04:47These are my favourite musicals and I know which

0:04:47 > 0:04:50There Is Nothing Like A Dame comes from.

0:04:50 > 0:04:53Are there any we can discount immediately?

0:04:53 > 0:04:54- Three of them.- Three of them.

0:04:54 > 0:04:56LAUGHTER

0:04:57 > 0:04:59Well, it doesn't come from West Side Story.

0:04:59 > 0:05:01What's the big song in West Side Story?

0:05:01 > 0:05:04There are so many. Tonight or Something's Coming.

0:05:04 > 0:05:07# Tonight, there's nothing like a dame. #

0:05:07 > 0:05:09I Feel Pretty, Oh, So Pretty.

0:05:09 > 0:05:11Lyrics by Sondheim.

0:05:11 > 0:05:13Guys And Dolls is fabulous.

0:05:13 > 0:05:14Luck Be A Lady Tonight.

0:05:14 > 0:05:16Oh, so many.

0:05:16 > 0:05:18- Wonderful...- Sit Down, You're Rockin' The Boat.

0:05:18 > 0:05:21Indeed. Oklahoma, Oh, What A Beautiful Morning.

0:05:21 > 0:05:24Oh, what a beautiful day. And it doesn't come from any of those,

0:05:24 > 0:05:28so it does come from South Pacific because it's what the sailors sang.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31- Rodgers and Hammerstein? - You've got it.- Oh!

0:05:31 > 0:05:34Cos I was going to go that it's Guys And Dolls.

0:05:34 > 0:05:35I thought it was Guys And Dolls.

0:05:35 > 0:05:37Well, overrule me.

0:05:37 > 0:05:38It's all the blokes...

0:05:38 > 0:05:41# Luck be a lady tonight

0:05:41 > 0:05:43# Never get out of my sight

0:05:43 > 0:05:45# Luck, if you ever were a lady to begin with

0:05:45 > 0:05:47# There is nothing like a dame. #

0:05:47 > 0:05:50- No, I don't think so.- Wouldn't it be great if we started the whole show

0:05:50 > 0:05:52again? And went, # Luck, be a lady tonight. #

0:05:52 > 0:05:54- We'd push this out the way... - Push the desk out.

0:05:56 > 0:05:58Are you absolutely sure it is South Pacific?

0:05:58 > 0:06:00I am... Listen, I lost my deposit, OK?

0:06:01 > 0:06:04I am completely positive it is South Pacific.

0:06:04 > 0:06:06Well, the panel's decision is clearly South Pacific.

0:06:08 > 0:06:12So, the panel and by the panel, Maxine, we mean Esther's decision

0:06:12 > 0:06:15on this is South Pacific.

0:06:15 > 0:06:19I'm a bit torn between Oklahoma and South Pacific.

0:06:19 > 0:06:21I've got the song in my head,

0:06:21 > 0:06:26but Esther sounded so certain, I think I'll go with South Pacific.

0:06:26 > 0:06:28OK, you're going with South Pacific.

0:06:30 > 0:06:32For £200, the correct answer is...

0:06:41 > 0:06:44It is South Pacific!

0:06:46 > 0:06:50Rodgers and Hammerstein, the song is sung by the sailors

0:06:50 > 0:06:53who all long for the women in their lives.

0:06:53 > 0:06:54Here we go.

0:06:54 > 0:06:57# There is nothin' like a dame

0:06:57 > 0:06:59# Nothin' in the world

0:06:59 > 0:07:02# There is nothin' you can name

0:07:02 > 0:07:06# That is anything like a dame. #

0:07:06 > 0:07:08There we go and from that music

0:07:08 > 0:07:13we can tell that that was on a South Pacific island somewhere(!)

0:07:13 > 0:07:14Very well done, Esther.

0:07:14 > 0:07:17Very well done, Maxine, you're up and running. £200.

0:07:17 > 0:07:19APPLAUSE

0:07:22 > 0:07:24You're up and running, here comes your next question.

0:07:43 > 0:07:48I think it could be buttocks or breasts but I'm not sure.

0:07:48 > 0:07:51- I'd like to hear what the panel says.- OK.

0:07:51 > 0:07:56I'm thinking of hill-shaped bits of the anatomy but I could be wrong.

0:07:56 > 0:07:59I'm sure they can sort out their buttocks from their breasts.

0:07:59 > 0:08:01Panel, your debate starts now.

0:08:01 > 0:08:06Well, I've got absolutely no idea, so in my position as captain...

0:08:07 > 0:08:11I was in the same position of thinking buttocks or breasts

0:08:11 > 0:08:13and thinking breasts is too rude.

0:08:13 > 0:08:15Scottish people are quite proper.

0:08:15 > 0:08:17Aren't they? Who's Scottish here?

0:08:17 > 0:08:20I think Rabbie Burns wasn't proper at all.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22I think he had a short life but a very merry one.

0:08:22 > 0:08:24- Oh, right.- Lots of ladies.

0:08:24 > 0:08:28- Ah!- Is this the poem, "This is the fair chieftain of the pudding race"?

0:08:28 > 0:08:30That one. Absolutely.

0:08:30 > 0:08:32Knees and fingers don't look like hills.

0:08:32 > 0:08:35Hurdies... Does that mean...

0:08:35 > 0:08:38that only a woman has them?

0:08:38 > 0:08:40So they are her...

0:08:40 > 0:08:44- dies.- It's spelt H-U-R, isn't it, as in Ben Hur?

0:08:44 > 0:08:48Right, well, Ben Hur, as I recall in the chariot race, had rather firm

0:08:48 > 0:08:50buttocks, didn't he?

0:08:50 > 0:08:53Are you a breast or a buttocks man?

0:08:56 > 0:08:58I would possibly say buttocks.

0:08:58 > 0:09:00- Really?- Yeah.

0:09:00 > 0:09:04I'd go breasts just because I think it's cheeky.

0:09:04 > 0:09:07You've got one breast, one buttock, you choose.

0:09:07 > 0:09:08By a narrow margin, breasts.

0:09:11 > 0:09:14It's pretty clear from this that our panel don't know

0:09:14 > 0:09:17their buttocks from their elbows.

0:09:17 > 0:09:21I think he probably wrote it to a woman so I'm going to agree with two

0:09:21 > 0:09:23of the panel and go for breasts.

0:09:25 > 0:09:28OK, going with the panel again.

0:09:28 > 0:09:31Are hurdies your breasts for £200?

0:09:38 > 0:09:40Oh!

0:09:40 > 0:09:42- Esther.- Sorry, Esther.

0:09:42 > 0:09:44That's OK. That's OK.

0:09:44 > 0:09:46So, buttocks to that.

0:09:46 > 0:09:51The poem is traditionally recited at a Burn's Night supper.

0:09:51 > 0:09:54There is a traditional Scottish phrase which means head over heels

0:09:54 > 0:09:56which is "heels over hurdies".

0:09:56 > 0:09:58- Oh!- You're still on £200.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01Here comes your next question, though.

0:10:19 > 0:10:20This one is a tough one.

0:10:20 > 0:10:25I don't think it's The Colbys because I think that was a spin-off.

0:10:25 > 0:10:28I think it's possibly Mork & Mindy.

0:10:28 > 0:10:31OK, can we help with this, panel? Your debate starts now.

0:10:31 > 0:10:32Nanu, Nanu.

0:10:33 > 0:10:37- Nanu, Nanu.- Does this fall within your area of expertise?

0:10:37 > 0:10:38Well, I know two of them.

0:10:38 > 0:10:40I know Frasier came from Cheers...

0:10:41 > 0:10:44..because he was the psychiatrist

0:10:44 > 0:10:46that was also one of the drinkers in the pub.

0:10:46 > 0:10:50And The Colbys, I think, was a spin-off from one of the...

0:10:50 > 0:10:52Was it Dynasty?

0:10:52 > 0:10:54Dynasty, that's it.

0:10:54 > 0:10:58I think I'm pretty sure that it's The Golden Girls.

0:10:58 > 0:11:02- What is Mork & Mindy? - Mork appeared on Happy Days.

0:11:02 > 0:11:05I'm pretty sure he did, I'm pretty sure he made his first appearance...

0:11:05 > 0:11:07He wasn't, like, a regular character.

0:11:07 > 0:11:09I'm pretty sure he appeared on Happy Days

0:11:09 > 0:11:10and they spun it off Happy Days,

0:11:10 > 0:11:14- I think...- Bearing in mind we got it completely wrong last time.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17- Yes!- Only some of us. - We're making a comeback now,

0:11:17 > 0:11:19but I am pretty sure The Golden Girls

0:11:19 > 0:11:22- didn't come from anything else. - I think that's right.

0:11:22 > 0:11:23I think it's Golden Girls.

0:11:23 > 0:11:27- I do, too.- I admire your confidence and I'm going to roll with it.

0:11:27 > 0:11:30So I think the panel will go with The Golden Girls.

0:11:32 > 0:11:34So, panel going with Golden Girls.

0:11:34 > 0:11:38A little bit of Mork & Mindy knowledge from Hal - or is it?

0:11:38 > 0:11:42I think it is a bit of knowledge from Hal so I'm going to go with

0:11:42 > 0:11:43The Golden Girls.

0:11:44 > 0:11:48So, you're changing your answer from Mork & Mindy to The Golden Girls.

0:11:48 > 0:11:49Yes.

0:11:49 > 0:11:53Was The Golden Girls not a spin off?

0:11:53 > 0:11:54For £200.

0:12:01 > 0:12:03It's the correct answer.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05APPLAUSE

0:12:05 > 0:12:07Very well done. You were right, Hal.

0:12:07 > 0:12:10Mork & Mindy came from an episode of Happy Days when Richie Cunningham

0:12:10 > 0:12:15had a dream he met an alien played by Robin Williams who tried to take

0:12:15 > 0:12:17him home to the planet of Ork.

0:12:17 > 0:12:21The Colbys was a spin-off of Dynasty as we call it in this country or

0:12:21 > 0:12:23"Die-nasty" as they called it in the States.

0:12:23 > 0:12:27The series ended with the alien abduction of Emma Samms' character

0:12:27 > 0:12:30Fallon before she returned to Dynasty

0:12:30 > 0:12:33and that's the reason why that show got cancelled.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38That is well played, Maxine. £200 into the prize pot.

0:12:38 > 0:12:39You're up to £400.

0:12:44 > 0:12:46Here comes your next question.

0:13:00 > 0:13:03I think there was a dance that was Gangnam Style

0:13:03 > 0:13:07and I think he came from Seoul,

0:13:07 > 0:13:10but it's either Seoul or Tokyo.

0:13:10 > 0:13:13OK, panel, do you have any Gangnam style?

0:13:13 > 0:13:14Your debate starts now.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17I know he was Korean, so I would always say Seoul

0:13:17 > 0:13:19because all the others are...

0:13:19 > 0:13:22Shanghai is China, Tokyo is Japan, Ho Chi Minh City is Vietnam.

0:13:22 > 0:13:25I think the whole... That's what I think.

0:13:26 > 0:13:29But maybe he was visiting Tokyo and heard Gangnam.

0:13:29 > 0:13:33I remember it's a wealthy suburb he's lampooning.

0:13:33 > 0:13:38Possibly. What I know about it I've learnt from Ed Balls' unique

0:13:38 > 0:13:41characterisation on Strictly.

0:13:41 > 0:13:45When he jumped over his poor, little, fragile partner

0:13:45 > 0:13:48and sort of rode her off into the distance.

0:13:48 > 0:13:52It brought a whole new element of violence to Strictly

0:13:52 > 0:13:54which I hadn't anticipated.

0:13:55 > 0:13:58But I definitely think it's Seoul music.

0:13:58 > 0:13:59What a moment it was, though.

0:13:59 > 0:14:03Do you remember it was the first video to get a billion...

0:14:03 > 0:14:05Did he get a billion hits or something on YouTube?

0:14:05 > 0:14:08So, are we at a majority?

0:14:08 > 0:14:10Unanimous, in fact.

0:14:10 > 0:14:13- Yes.- Yes, the panel is pretty confident that Gangnam is

0:14:13 > 0:14:16a suburb of Seoul in South Korea.

0:14:18 > 0:14:19OK, they're pretty sure about this one, Maxine.

0:14:19 > 0:14:22I've been totally convinced by the panel,

0:14:22 > 0:14:26- so I'm going to go with Seoul, as well.- OK, convinced by the panel.

0:14:26 > 0:14:28All in for Seoul.

0:14:28 > 0:14:31Is Gangnam a district of Seoul?

0:14:39 > 0:14:40Yes, it is.

0:14:42 > 0:14:44Very well done, very well played.

0:14:44 > 0:14:47It literally means south of the river.

0:14:47 > 0:14:50The cab drivers go, "I'm not going to Gangnam."

0:14:51 > 0:14:54It refers to all of Seoul south of the Han River and more specifically

0:14:54 > 0:14:57to the upmarket and chic neighbourhoods

0:14:57 > 0:15:00that founded the area. And here's a little...

0:15:00 > 0:15:02# Oppa Gangnam style!

0:15:04 > 0:15:05# Gangnam style!

0:15:05 > 0:15:09# Op, op, op, oppa Gangnam style! #

0:15:09 > 0:15:11That will never see the light of day, hopefully!

0:15:12 > 0:15:13It will. OK.

0:15:16 > 0:15:17OK, well played, Maxine.

0:15:17 > 0:15:20At the end of Round One, it means you are up to £600.

0:15:25 > 0:15:28So, how do you think the panel is faring so far?

0:15:28 > 0:15:31Well, they've helped win me £600 so I can't complain.

0:15:31 > 0:15:34Some would say they have lost £200, as well.

0:15:34 > 0:15:36No, I think I lost that one.

0:15:36 > 0:15:38- I made the decision myself. - OK, fair enough.

0:15:38 > 0:15:39Anybody standing out in particular?

0:15:39 > 0:15:41- It's too early to say. - It is too early to say.

0:15:41 > 0:15:44Keep them on their toes. A couple more rounds to go before you have to

0:15:44 > 0:15:46choose one to play the Final Debate.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49OK, let's see how they cope with pictures - it's time for Round Two.

0:15:52 > 0:15:54OK, Maxine, Round Two is our picture round.

0:15:54 > 0:15:57We need you to put three pictures in order.

0:15:57 > 0:16:01Three questions in this round, £300 for each correct answer,

0:16:01 > 0:16:03a possible 900 up for grabs.

0:16:22 > 0:16:24This is totally outside of my comfort zone.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26I don't know anything about rugby.

0:16:26 > 0:16:28I'm going to pass this one to the panel totally.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32- I'm in their hands. - OK, panel, Maxine is in your hands.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34- Your debate starts now. - No pressure at all.

0:16:34 > 0:16:37I understand you're a huge fan of rugby.

0:16:37 > 0:16:41I am a massive rugby fan and this is really hard, though, still.

0:16:42 > 0:16:44This guy had a really long career, Rory Underwood,

0:16:44 > 0:16:46and I think he scored the most tries.

0:16:46 > 0:16:49Will Carling also had a long career but he's a centre

0:16:49 > 0:16:51and wingers score more.

0:16:52 > 0:16:55Ben Cohen, an illustrious player curtailed by injury.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57It's like Sherlock Holmes!

0:16:57 > 0:17:00- It's amazing.- I think Rory Underwood, then Ben Cohen,

0:17:00 > 0:17:02then Will Carling for the fewest.

0:17:02 > 0:17:04Esther, if the question was,

0:17:04 > 0:17:07match the faces to the names would you be able to do it?

0:17:07 > 0:17:10- I wouldn't even be able to do that.- Absolutely not.

0:17:10 > 0:17:13All I know about rugby is that now rugby players are

0:17:13 > 0:17:17so huge, so professional,

0:17:17 > 0:17:21that every match is like a car crash and they have to be put together

0:17:21 > 0:17:23again after a match.

0:17:23 > 0:17:27Unfortunately, the men in my family love rugby and I wish they didn't

0:17:27 > 0:17:31because I'm so worried about the injuries.

0:17:31 > 0:17:34My son plays it, I'm terrified.

0:17:34 > 0:17:36Sorry, can I just put in a ridiculous name-drop?

0:17:37 > 0:17:40At university, Will Carling asked my sister out.

0:17:40 > 0:17:43- LAUGHTER - But get this -

0:17:43 > 0:17:46she turned him down. And he was...

0:17:46 > 0:17:48The free tickets we could have had for years

0:17:48 > 0:17:51cos he was about to take off and she turned him down!

0:17:51 > 0:17:55I think Will Carling... Ben Cohen was a great try-scorer

0:17:55 > 0:17:57but didn't have as long a career as Will Carling.

0:17:57 > 0:18:00So do you want to move them the other way around?

0:18:00 > 0:18:03I think Will Carling had the least but I don't know.

0:18:03 > 0:18:06So the panel thinks Will, Ben, Rory.

0:18:06 > 0:18:08I think I could have made a real fool of myself in this,

0:18:08 > 0:18:10I'm not sure. It's a really hard question.

0:18:10 > 0:18:14OK, so, Hal, at the beginning, very forthright.

0:18:14 > 0:18:16He thinks it's Will, then Ben, then Rory.

0:18:16 > 0:18:19The minute that we lock the answer in, Hal is already apologising.

0:18:19 > 0:18:21LAUGHTER

0:18:21 > 0:18:24I'm actually going to swap the first two around.

0:18:24 > 0:18:28I know nothing about rugby but I have a gut feeling.

0:18:28 > 0:18:30So you're going against the panel

0:18:30 > 0:18:32based on no rugby knowledge whatsoever?

0:18:34 > 0:18:36Well, I'm going with my gut.

0:18:36 > 0:18:38OK, you're going with your gut.

0:18:38 > 0:18:40For £300, is that the correct order?

0:18:47 > 0:18:50- Oh!- Wrong order, Maxine.

0:18:50 > 0:18:52Let's have a look at the correct order.

0:18:55 > 0:18:57The panel, otherwise known as Hal for this question...

0:18:59 > 0:19:05..were right. Will Carling scored 12 tries for England, then Ben Cohen,

0:19:05 > 0:19:07star of Strictly Come Dancing, 31,

0:19:07 > 0:19:11and then England's record try-scorer Rory Underwood on 49.

0:19:11 > 0:19:13So, Maxine, I'm afraid nothing for that

0:19:13 > 0:19:16but two more picture questions to go. Here comes your next one.

0:19:35 > 0:19:38I'd put London Bridge first.

0:19:38 > 0:19:41Then maybe Brooklyn Bridge and then the longest,

0:19:41 > 0:19:44I did go over it and it did seem awfully long,

0:19:44 > 0:19:45cos I'm scared of heights,

0:19:45 > 0:19:47I'd put the longest as Golden Gate Bridge,

0:19:47 > 0:19:49but I'd like to throw it over to the panel.

0:19:49 > 0:19:53OK. You've been over the Golden Gate Bridge, it did seem quite long.

0:19:53 > 0:19:54Panel, can you sort this out for us?

0:19:54 > 0:19:57- Your debate starts now. - That was my first thought.

0:19:57 > 0:20:00- Yeah.- Have you seen these bridges in action?

0:20:00 > 0:20:04London Bridge only went over the Thames.

0:20:04 > 0:20:07This is the American who thought he was buying Tower Bridge

0:20:07 > 0:20:09and he bought London Bridge by mistake.

0:20:09 > 0:20:10- Yes.- So this goes over the Thames...

0:20:10 > 0:20:13- Yes.- ..which is a river. - So that would be the shortest.

0:20:13 > 0:20:17OK. So it's really between the Brooklyn Bridge and the Golden Gate.

0:20:17 > 0:20:19But that goes across a bay, doesn't it?

0:20:19 > 0:20:22Yeah, that's a bay and this is... Is it the Hudson?

0:20:23 > 0:20:26- Yes, that's the Hudson River. - So, it's got to be longer.

0:20:26 > 0:20:29But we don't think there's anything tricksy about Brooklyn Bridge?

0:20:29 > 0:20:32It's just a plain old bridge going over a plain old river.

0:20:32 > 0:20:35Was it over the Brooklyn Bridge they went at the beginning of Taxi -

0:20:35 > 0:20:39- the credits?- No. No, no, it's... - We could do a whole credits thing,

0:20:39 > 0:20:41with a taxi driving over Brooklyn Bridge.

0:20:41 > 0:20:43- Oh, it is, isn't it? - In the comedy series, yeah.

0:20:43 > 0:20:45So we are saying...

0:20:45 > 0:20:49I think it's that... It's definitely longer than London Bridge.

0:20:49 > 0:20:55So I think we've reached a unanimous decision here with you, Maxine.

0:20:55 > 0:20:58We're going London Bridge shortest, Brooklyn Bridge in the middle,

0:20:58 > 0:21:01Golden Gate longest.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03But we have been wrong before.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07They have been wrong before but they are going with you on this one,

0:21:07 > 0:21:10Maxine. Anything in there to change your mind?

0:21:10 > 0:21:11No, I don't think so.

0:21:11 > 0:21:12I'll go with that one, go with the panel.

0:21:12 > 0:21:15You went against them the last time.

0:21:15 > 0:21:17For £300, is that the correct order?

0:21:25 > 0:21:26It is!

0:21:29 > 0:21:31Very well done. Very well played.

0:21:31 > 0:21:33London Bridge is 283 metres.

0:21:33 > 0:21:37As its name suggested, it used to span the Thames.

0:21:37 > 0:21:40When the City of London decided to replace the bridge in the 1960s,

0:21:40 > 0:21:43they sold it to a rich American, Robert P McCulloch.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46It was then dismantled and moved to Lake Havasu City,

0:21:46 > 0:21:52where it stands today. Both the seller and the buyer deny the rumour

0:21:52 > 0:21:56that it was Tower Bridge that he thought he was buying.

0:21:56 > 0:22:00Who knows? Brooklyn Bridge is just over 1,800 metres

0:22:00 > 0:22:02and then the Golden Gate Bridge

0:22:02 > 0:22:07in California is 2,737 metres,

0:22:07 > 0:22:10which is 1.7 miles.

0:22:10 > 0:22:13The bridge from Taxi was the Queensboro Bridge.

0:22:13 > 0:22:15- Oh.- Yeah, so it was.

0:22:15 > 0:22:16Very well done. Well done, panel.

0:22:16 > 0:22:18£300 into your prize pot, Maxine.

0:22:18 > 0:22:20You're up to £900.

0:22:20 > 0:22:21APPLAUSE

0:22:23 > 0:22:25Still another picture question to go,

0:22:25 > 0:22:29let's see if we can get it up to 1,200. Here it comes.

0:22:46 > 0:22:52Well, I think Chris Moyles had quite a short tenure and then

0:22:52 > 0:22:57I think probably Mike Smith next and Noel Edmonds has been going on

0:22:57 > 0:23:00forever - I think he's like Dorian Gray, he doesn't age.

0:23:00 > 0:23:03But I'd like the panel's input.

0:23:03 > 0:23:04OK. Well, the panel, I'm sure,

0:23:04 > 0:23:06have the right mix of music and entertainment

0:23:06 > 0:23:09to sort this out very quickly. Panel, your debate starts now.

0:23:09 > 0:23:12Well, Noel Edmonds has had a massively

0:23:12 > 0:23:14long career as a broadcaster,

0:23:14 > 0:23:18hasn't he? But I'm not sure how long he presented the breakfast show.

0:23:18 > 0:23:20I think Chris Moyes is the longest.

0:23:20 > 0:23:23- Cos wasn't he for ages... - But he left, though, didn't he?

0:23:23 > 0:23:25- Yeah.- Do you remember he left and he went to LA

0:23:25 > 0:23:26and he got really skinny?

0:23:26 > 0:23:30Cos I remember the first time I took my kids to LA was when Blur

0:23:30 > 0:23:32played there and I was saying it is, like,

0:23:32 > 0:23:36literally ridiculous because you just go into a cafe and it's full of

0:23:36 > 0:23:39famous people. I remember the first cafe we went to,

0:23:39 > 0:23:43Chris Moyles was in there and they absolutely went completely mental

0:23:43 > 0:23:45and I was like, "Be cool, be cool!"

0:23:46 > 0:23:47So, yeah, he went off to LA.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50I'm not... Oh, he's brilliant, Chris Moyles,

0:23:50 > 0:23:52but I'm not sure how long he stuck...

0:23:52 > 0:23:55I think he sort of went to LA to take it up a notch.

0:23:55 > 0:23:57I think it was, like, ten years.

0:23:57 > 0:24:00- Or more.- Was it? - I'm not a Radio 1 listener,

0:24:00 > 0:24:01so this is dodgy that I'm saying this,

0:24:01 > 0:24:04but I'm sure he was a long time cos he started very young.

0:24:04 > 0:24:07Can you shine any light on this?

0:24:07 > 0:24:10I can shine no light on it because I seem to remember Tony Blackburn on

0:24:10 > 0:24:12the Radio 1 breakfast show.

0:24:12 > 0:24:14That was Junior Choice, wasn't it?

0:24:14 > 0:24:17- Saturday mornings. That was brilliant.- Flowers In The Rain.

0:24:17 > 0:24:19- Happy days.- So who would do the shortest?

0:24:19 > 0:24:21I reckon Edmonds did the l...

0:24:21 > 0:24:22- The shortest?- Was he?

0:24:22 > 0:24:24When was he? '70s Radio 1?

0:24:24 > 0:24:27- My hunch is... - He does have good hunches.

0:24:27 > 0:24:30- I know.- So my hunch would be exactly that - Mike Smith is the shortest.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33Well, I think I'll back Hal's hunch.

0:24:33 > 0:24:36- Are you going to back Hal's hunch? - I'm definitely going to. Yup.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39- So the panel think... - Taking responsibility for this...

0:24:39 > 0:24:42..Mike Smith, Noel Edmonds, Chris Moyles.

0:24:44 > 0:24:46I'm going to go with the panel's hunch

0:24:46 > 0:24:48because Hal was right over the

0:24:48 > 0:24:50rugby question and, I have to say, Chris Moyles,

0:24:50 > 0:24:51I don't listen to him, so...

0:24:52 > 0:24:54..I'm going on his hunch.

0:24:54 > 0:24:57OK, going on Hal's hunch.

0:24:57 > 0:25:00Mike Smith, the shortest, then Noel Edmonds,

0:25:00 > 0:25:03then Chris Moyles as the longest-serving Radio 1

0:25:03 > 0:25:06breakfast host out of those three.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08£300, is that the correct order?

0:25:16 > 0:25:18It is!

0:25:21 > 0:25:23Very well done.

0:25:23 > 0:25:26I don't even listen to Radio 1.

0:25:26 > 0:25:27Oh, you tell us now!

0:25:28 > 0:25:33Mike Smith hosted the show for two years between 1986 and 1988.

0:25:33 > 0:25:38Noel Edmonds did it for nearly five years from 1973.

0:25:38 > 0:25:41Tony Blackburn's stint was the longest

0:25:41 > 0:25:43until taken over by Chris Moyles

0:25:43 > 0:25:46to present the show for over eight years.

0:25:46 > 0:25:48Well done, Maxine, you were right to go with Hal's hunch.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51It means, at the end of Round Two, you're up to £1,200.

0:25:51 > 0:25:53APPLAUSE

0:25:55 > 0:25:59And there's still another 1,500 to play for in Round Three.

0:25:59 > 0:26:01But, as we turn our gaze to our panellists,

0:26:01 > 0:26:03who do we think is performing best here now, Maxine?

0:26:03 > 0:26:05Who's standing out for you?

0:26:05 > 0:26:09Well, Hal seems to have a very good broad range of knowledge,

0:26:09 > 0:26:12like rugby and music.

0:26:12 > 0:26:18- Yes.- But the other two panel members are also quite sure about certain

0:26:18 > 0:26:21things as well, so I've not made up my mind 100% yet.

0:26:21 > 0:26:24All to play for, as we play Round Three.

0:26:27 > 0:26:30In this round, you're going to face questions that contain three

0:26:30 > 0:26:33statements about a person, a place or a thing. Only one is true.

0:26:33 > 0:26:36We need to try to find that true statement.

0:26:36 > 0:26:39Because it's the final round, £500 for each correct answer.

0:26:39 > 0:26:42So, lots to play for. Here comes your first one.

0:27:03 > 0:27:07I'm going to go with B, but I'm torn between B and C.

0:27:07 > 0:27:10So again I'm going to ask the panel what they think.

0:27:10 > 0:27:13All right. Let's see if the panel can sort this out.

0:27:13 > 0:27:15Panel, your debate starts now.

0:27:15 > 0:27:19Maxine, you may be surprised to learn that I collect apple trees.

0:27:19 > 0:27:24- Ah.- Erm... But I still don't know the answer.

0:27:24 > 0:27:27I do have a cutting from the apple tree

0:27:27 > 0:27:32from which the apple fell on Isaac Newton's head in Cambridge.

0:27:32 > 0:27:37I think we can discount A because he had no sense of humour,

0:27:37 > 0:27:38Isaac Newton, and he wouldn't...

0:27:38 > 0:27:42And a "pomme" is apple, he wouldn't have called it appleology, would he?

0:27:42 > 0:27:45- No.- My gut feeling is that they're not part of the rose family.

0:27:45 > 0:27:47Because usually you can tell by the leaf, can't you?

0:27:47 > 0:27:52And they haven't got leaves anything like the rose family.

0:27:52 > 0:27:57So I think, yes, the Dancing Orange could well be a variety of apple.

0:27:57 > 0:28:00What are the names of the apples that...

0:28:00 > 0:28:03- apple trees that you collect?- There are absolutely hundreds of them.

0:28:03 > 0:28:06I think the apple's, like, the most widespread fruit in the world.

0:28:06 > 0:28:09But they do have names with colours cos there's Pink Lady, isn't there?

0:28:09 > 0:28:10Blenheim Orange.

0:28:10 > 0:28:13- Blenheim Orange.- Very nice, that's a local one in Oxfordshire.

0:28:13 > 0:28:16It is a Northern Irish one, the Dancing Orange.

0:28:16 > 0:28:18The Dancing Orange.

0:28:18 > 0:28:20Can I ask you a question?

0:28:20 > 0:28:22If there is a Blenheim Orange, as you say, would anyone name...

0:28:22 > 0:28:24It's quite a pretty name, though, isn't it?

0:28:24 > 0:28:26It is a pretty name and if they're orange...

0:28:26 > 0:28:28You're trying to sell your apple trees.

0:28:28 > 0:28:32Oh, yes, madam, the Dancing Orange, very popular this year.

0:28:32 > 0:28:35- So, not A.- I think it's C.

0:28:35 > 0:28:38- Let's go for C. - Just seems the most likely.

0:28:38 > 0:28:39We don't really know, do we?

0:28:39 > 0:28:42By a careful process of elimination and guessing,

0:28:42 > 0:28:46the panel thinks it might be C.

0:28:48 > 0:28:51By process of elimination - not quite sure on this.

0:28:51 > 0:28:54Neither am I, but I know it's definitely not A,

0:28:54 > 0:28:56and B, I don't know enough about the rose family,

0:28:56 > 0:29:01so I'm going to go with elimination and guessing and go with C.

0:29:01 > 0:29:03OK, you're going with the panel.

0:29:03 > 0:29:04£500.

0:29:04 > 0:29:07Is the Dancing Orange a variety of apple?

0:29:13 > 0:29:17- Oh!- Oh, that shows what I know.

0:29:17 > 0:29:20The correct answer - apples are part of the rose family.

0:29:20 > 0:29:22- I never knew that.- No.

0:29:22 > 0:29:23That's counterintuitive.

0:29:23 > 0:29:28That is counterintuitive, but it also shows how ignorant I am.

0:29:28 > 0:29:31Pomology is the science of fruit-growing.

0:29:31 > 0:29:34However, Newton's field of study was physics.

0:29:35 > 0:29:38- I'm sorry, Maxine.- That's very hard. - Don't worry.- I've failed you.

0:29:38 > 0:29:41- Don't worry.- The tree that you have from Isaac Newton is known as the

0:29:41 > 0:29:46gravity tree. And it is the flower of Kent is the variety which are

0:29:46 > 0:29:48cooking apples. Tricky, tricky question.

0:29:48 > 0:29:50No money for that one, Maxine,

0:29:50 > 0:29:52but there's still £1,000 up for grabs here.

0:29:52 > 0:29:53Here comes your next one.

0:30:16 > 0:30:18Are you superstitious, Maxine?

0:30:18 > 0:30:23No. But I remember the Great Storm of '87,

0:30:23 > 0:30:26because a tree fell across our drive and we couldn't get out,

0:30:26 > 0:30:28but I thought that was more midweek than a Friday.

0:30:29 > 0:30:31It could be something off the wall,

0:30:31 > 0:30:34like the horror film director Wes Craven was born, but I'm not sure,

0:30:34 > 0:30:36so I'm going to go to the panel.

0:30:36 > 0:30:38It could be any of those. Panel, could you sort this out?

0:30:38 > 0:30:39Your debate starts now.

0:30:39 > 0:30:43Esther, I know you're tempted to put a nice big cross through and

0:30:43 > 0:30:47- eliminate...- I'm remembering the Great Storm of 1987,

0:30:47 > 0:30:53cos I was filming, actually, and I was filming, I think, in Manchester,

0:30:53 > 0:30:54where the weather was perfectly calm.

0:30:54 > 0:30:57There hadn't been any kind of hurricane or storm at all.

0:30:57 > 0:30:59And I couldn't understand why,

0:30:59 > 0:31:00when you turned on the television,

0:31:00 > 0:31:03everybody was broadcasting by candlelight.

0:31:03 > 0:31:07But gradually I became aware, and when I got back to London,

0:31:07 > 0:31:09the trees had fallen over like skittles.

0:31:09 > 0:31:11It was really tragic.

0:31:11 > 0:31:13But, like you, I think it was in the middle of the week.

0:31:13 > 0:31:16But of course everybody laughed at poor old Michael Fish...

0:31:16 > 0:31:19- Oh, yes.- ..who said we don't get hurricanes.

0:31:19 > 0:31:21"Don't worry" - was his thing.

0:31:21 > 0:31:23"We don't get hurricanes in England."

0:31:23 > 0:31:26- So not C.- Buckingham Palace was bombed on Friday the 13th.

0:31:26 > 0:31:32I think we would perhaps know about that if that had happened.

0:31:32 > 0:31:34Wouldn't that be one of the great English myths?

0:31:34 > 0:31:37Cos there was, you know, the famous Queen Mother's quote...

0:31:37 > 0:31:41- Oh, yes, yes.- Which was why she wouldn't send her children,

0:31:41 > 0:31:43the Queen and Princess Margaret...

0:31:43 > 0:31:45When they were little she wouldn't send them to Canada

0:31:45 > 0:31:48- to keep them safe.- I've got a hunch that might be completely wrong,

0:31:48 > 0:31:50but I've got a feeling I've heard about Wes Craven

0:31:50 > 0:31:53- being born on Friday the 13th. - Have you? Who is he?

0:31:53 > 0:31:56He made things like Nightmare On Elm Street.

0:31:56 > 0:31:58I don't think he made the film Friday The 13th.

0:31:58 > 0:32:00He did start from those real shock-horror films

0:32:00 > 0:32:02and then became supposedly more sophisticated

0:32:02 > 0:32:04with Nightmare On Elm Street and things like that.

0:32:04 > 0:32:05I've got a feeling I've heard it.

0:32:05 > 0:32:08Well, shall we take the plunge?

0:32:08 > 0:32:10- Let's take the plunge.- OK. I'm getting a bit cocky.

0:32:12 > 0:32:14But I just have a feeling I've heard that.

0:32:14 > 0:32:17I think we're veering towards A,

0:32:17 > 0:32:21that horror film director Wes Craven was born on Friday the 13th.

0:32:23 > 0:32:26OK. Hal has a hunch.

0:32:27 > 0:32:29But they're not quite sure.

0:32:29 > 0:32:32I don't think it was B, because I agree with Esther,

0:32:32 > 0:32:34that it would be imprinted in our memory

0:32:34 > 0:32:36it was bombed on Friday the 13th.

0:32:36 > 0:32:41I'm going to go with A, and your hunch again, Wes Craven.

0:32:41 > 0:32:43OK, Maxine, you're going with the panel,

0:32:43 > 0:32:46to keep Hal's winning streak going...

0:32:46 > 0:32:48LAUGHTER

0:32:48 > 0:32:51Was Wes Craven born on Friday the 13th?

0:32:51 > 0:32:53For £500.

0:32:59 > 0:33:03- Oh!- No!- So sorry.

0:33:03 > 0:33:04Oh, dear, never mind.

0:33:04 > 0:33:08Buckingham Palace WAS bombed on Friday the 13th.

0:33:08 > 0:33:11Five German bombs hit Buckingham Palace

0:33:11 > 0:33:14on Friday the 13th of September, 1940.

0:33:14 > 0:33:17Members of the royal family were at home at the time.

0:33:17 > 0:33:21Wes Craven was born on Wednesday the 2nd of August, 1939.

0:33:22 > 0:33:27The Great Storm hit the UK on the night of the 15th/16th of October,

0:33:27 > 0:33:311987. It was a Thursday going into a Friday.

0:33:31 > 0:33:35The number 13 was considered unlucky because there were 13 at the

0:33:35 > 0:33:37Last Supper, and Fridays were because

0:33:37 > 0:33:40Jesus' crucifixion took place on Good Friday,

0:33:40 > 0:33:43but there is no record of the two being considered unlucky

0:33:43 > 0:33:45together until the 19th century.

0:33:45 > 0:33:47So, Maxine, nothing for that,

0:33:47 > 0:33:48but there is still one more question left,

0:33:48 > 0:33:52so let's see if you can get your hands on the 500 for this.

0:34:11 > 0:34:14Well, I definitely don't think it's C.

0:34:14 > 0:34:18And B could be a red herring, because of Fawlty Towers.

0:34:18 > 0:34:21And I don't know how many Oscars he's been nominated for,

0:34:21 > 0:34:23so I'm going to go with the panel. I think it's A.

0:34:23 > 0:34:26- OK, you think it's A. - Yeah. But it could be B.

0:34:26 > 0:34:29Let's see if we can bring any cheese knowledge to this panel.

0:34:29 > 0:34:30Your debate starts now.

0:34:30 > 0:34:34My instant response is exactly the same as yours.

0:34:34 > 0:34:36As far as I know, he wasn't ever called Cheese.

0:34:36 > 0:34:39Much as I would applaud a name like that.

0:34:39 > 0:34:41His family name was formerly Cheese,

0:34:41 > 0:34:44you'd keep it if you were a comedian, wouldn't you?

0:34:44 > 0:34:47But I don't think he started out as a comedian,

0:34:48 > 0:34:52and I think his father may have changed it.

0:34:52 > 0:34:56Or it could be that I'm completely barmy.

0:34:56 > 0:34:59Is anybody ever called Cheese, though?

0:34:59 > 0:35:01My parents' neighbour was called Cheeser.

0:35:01 > 0:35:05- Oh, really?- Which I always thought was a cracking name.

0:35:05 > 0:35:06- Cheeser?- Cheeser.

0:35:06 > 0:35:10Isn't that good? Has he been actually nominated for four Oscars?

0:35:10 > 0:35:11He's done a lot of films, hasn't he?

0:35:11 > 0:35:14That doesn't necessarily follow, does it?

0:35:14 > 0:35:16I mean... So has Alfred Hitchcock.

0:35:16 > 0:35:20Does he have to have been nominated as a writer, director?

0:35:20 > 0:35:23The Monty Python films must have had some nominations.

0:35:23 > 0:35:25They love the Pythons in America.

0:35:25 > 0:35:27Did he get nominated for A Fish Called Wanda, as well?

0:35:27 > 0:35:29A Fish Called Wanda would be very popular.

0:35:29 > 0:35:31Did that do well at the Oscars?

0:35:31 > 0:35:33I can't remember. I think the four Oscars is the most likely.

0:35:33 > 0:35:36- Four?- Only nominations, it doesn't say anything about winning.- OK.

0:35:36 > 0:35:41The legend about Fawlty Towers was he stayed in a hotel

0:35:41 > 0:35:44- in Cornwall, wasn't it?- Absolutely. Torquay.- Was it Torquay?

0:35:44 > 0:35:47It was Terry Jones. They were filming.

0:35:47 > 0:35:48I think a lot of them are...

0:35:48 > 0:35:51And he stayed there. It was so spectacularly, brilliantly bad.

0:35:51 > 0:35:53It doesn't sound like he's from Devon.

0:35:53 > 0:35:55I thought his dad was Army or something.

0:35:55 > 0:35:59So we're basically no further on than we were when we started.

0:35:59 > 0:36:01Exactly, so, so, come along, then.

0:36:01 > 0:36:03Panel's instinct says Oscars.

0:36:03 > 0:36:07- Two out of three. And one's got this horrible sort of...- Cheese thing.

0:36:07 > 0:36:09..Cheese thing. In my brain.

0:36:09 > 0:36:12Probably Oscars, maybe cheese, if it's not Devon.

0:36:12 > 0:36:14LAUGHTER

0:36:14 > 0:36:18- Ignore me.- John Cleese has been nominated for four Oscars.

0:36:18 > 0:36:19That's what we think.

0:36:21 > 0:36:23I think I'm going to go with A, the Oscars,

0:36:23 > 0:36:26because I think B's a bit obvious with the Fawlty Towers connection,

0:36:26 > 0:36:29but I could be wrong and I'm not convinced about Cheese.

0:36:29 > 0:36:31OK, you're not convinced about Cheese.

0:36:31 > 0:36:34- No, so I'm going for A. - You're going for A.

0:36:34 > 0:36:36£500.

0:36:36 > 0:36:38The true statement about John Cleese is...

0:36:45 > 0:36:46- Oh!- No!

0:36:51 > 0:36:55His family name was formerly Cheese.

0:36:55 > 0:36:56- Oh!- Yeah.

0:36:56 > 0:36:58I did have this thing in my brain.

0:36:58 > 0:37:01Esther, you were absolutely right.

0:37:01 > 0:37:04His father was called Reginald Cheese.

0:37:04 > 0:37:05LAUGHTER

0:37:07 > 0:37:10He was born in a sketch.

0:37:10 > 0:37:14And he changed his name before he went into the Army so he wouldn't be

0:37:14 > 0:37:19ridiculed. John has reputedly said that he actually prefers the name

0:37:19 > 0:37:22Cheese to Cleese.

0:37:22 > 0:37:24Born in Weston-super-Mare in Somerset,

0:37:24 > 0:37:28his father was an insurance salesman, they didn't run a hotel.

0:37:28 > 0:37:31He has only been nominated for one Oscar.

0:37:31 > 0:37:32I mean, only? Come on.

0:37:32 > 0:37:35He's been nominated for an Oscar

0:37:35 > 0:37:37for the screenplay of A Fish Called Wanda.

0:37:37 > 0:37:41I don't think anybody is going to forget that fact.

0:37:41 > 0:37:44Unfortunately, Maxine, it's no use to you.

0:37:44 > 0:37:47It means at the end of Round Three you're up to £1,200.

0:37:52 > 0:37:55So, one question between you and that £1,200.

0:37:55 > 0:37:56If you manage to get it correct,

0:37:56 > 0:37:58what do you think you'll spend the cash on?

0:37:58 > 0:38:00Well, I'll spend some of it on...

0:38:00 > 0:38:02I'd like to take my nieces and nephew to Rome.

0:38:02 > 0:38:05They've never been to Rome before. It's one of my favourite cities.

0:38:05 > 0:38:08And I'd take them around and it's a city I know very well.

0:38:08 > 0:38:11- OK.- I'd just like to give a little bit to charity if there's any left

0:38:11 > 0:38:13- over at the end.- Well, look,

0:38:13 > 0:38:15there is one question between you and that money.

0:38:15 > 0:38:17It is of course the Final Debate question.

0:38:17 > 0:38:19Yes. There will be six possible answers.

0:38:19 > 0:38:21- Right.- Only three are correct.

0:38:21 > 0:38:24However, you will not be facing this question on your own.

0:38:25 > 0:38:27- ESTHER:- Oh, dear.

0:38:27 > 0:38:32You will get to choose one of these huge intellects to help you on your

0:38:32 > 0:38:37quest. And so, will it be "nothin' like a dame" Esther Rantzen,

0:38:37 > 0:38:40or will you go for a man who doesn't know his Cheese from his

0:38:40 > 0:38:42Cleese - Alex?

0:38:42 > 0:38:46Or will you risk Hal making a hurdies of himself?

0:38:46 > 0:38:49I'm going to go for Dame Esther.

0:38:49 > 0:38:51OK, you're going for Dame Esther.

0:38:51 > 0:38:52Esther, please join us for the Final Debate.

0:38:52 > 0:38:56APPLAUSE

0:38:58 > 0:39:01OK, Esther, Maxine has chosen you for the final debate.

0:39:01 > 0:39:04I'm thinking it's the Cheese/Cleese knowledge that's got you here.

0:39:04 > 0:39:07Yes, but I didn't have the courage of my convictions, did I?

0:39:07 > 0:39:10- No.- And sometimes I have the courage of my convictions and I'm

0:39:10 > 0:39:14completely wrong, so I've just got to play it right for your sake.

0:39:14 > 0:39:16Are you feeling confident, Maxine?

0:39:16 > 0:39:19Now that I've got Esther on my right-hand side, definitely.

0:39:19 > 0:39:22I mean, anybody who's got Esther on her right-hand side...

0:39:22 > 0:39:24Exactly. If she's on my team, that's a good thing.

0:39:24 > 0:39:26It's in a good place. OK, it is the Final Debate,

0:39:26 > 0:39:28so you get to choose from these two categories.

0:39:28 > 0:39:31Have a look at this. Talk it through and tell me what you fancy.

0:39:37 > 0:39:39I mean, they are very broad categories,

0:39:39 > 0:39:42so it could be very specific in either.

0:39:42 > 0:39:44Well, education is kind of my thing.

0:39:44 > 0:39:46I teach. But TV...

0:39:46 > 0:39:50It's sort of... It's quite general, so...

0:39:50 > 0:39:54And you've got TV expertise, so what would you feel confident with?

0:39:54 > 0:39:55Well, television's the obvious one.

0:39:55 > 0:39:57- Yeah.- But I think you should go with your heart.

0:40:00 > 0:40:02Well, they are equal, so why don't we go with TV?

0:40:02 > 0:40:05We'll have a go. Because I watch a fair bit.

0:40:05 > 0:40:07- OK.- OK, Maxine, we're wishing you all the best of luck.- Thank you.

0:40:07 > 0:40:09£1,200 up for grabs.

0:40:09 > 0:40:12You are against the clock - 45 seconds.

0:40:12 > 0:40:14Here comes your Final Debate question.

0:40:36 > 0:40:38Your time starts now.

0:40:38 > 0:40:43Did you ever see it? Nor did I. So this is entire guesswork.

0:40:43 > 0:40:45OK.

0:40:45 > 0:40:47I think maybe they'd have sort of bonkers names,

0:40:47 > 0:40:48like, Saracen sounds...

0:40:48 > 0:40:51I think they would have a bonkers names like Saracen.

0:40:51 > 0:40:53So, Saracen definitely.

0:40:53 > 0:40:55Do you think Scorpio, as well?

0:40:55 > 0:40:59- That's sort of a...- They all sound perfectly logical, don't they?

0:40:59 > 0:41:01Well, Rogue? Let's take Rogue out.

0:41:01 > 0:41:03- Let's take him out.- 20 seconds.

0:41:05 > 0:41:07Let's take Flame out, for no reason.

0:41:07 > 0:41:09- And we need three.- We need three.

0:41:09 > 0:41:12- OK.- So I think Saracen, do you think Scorpio?

0:41:12 > 0:41:15Scorpio. And we're going either for Havok or Beast.

0:41:15 > 0:41:17- Beast.- And of the two...

0:41:17 > 0:41:20I think they'd enjoy saying, "And here comes the Beast!"

0:41:20 > 0:41:22I do, and I can imagine, you know...

0:41:22 > 0:41:24Maxine, I need three answers.

0:41:24 > 0:41:26I think we've got the three.

0:41:26 > 0:41:29Scorpio, Beast and Saracen.

0:41:31 > 0:41:32Guess, wild guess.

0:41:32 > 0:41:34Should have chosen education.

0:41:34 > 0:41:35- Sorry.- Too late.

0:41:35 > 0:41:39So, purely on guesswork here.

0:41:39 > 0:41:42OK, let's start with Saracen, then.

0:41:42 > 0:41:46Was Saracen on the first series of Gladiators?

0:41:48 > 0:41:50To keep us in the game for £1,200.

0:42:00 > 0:42:02Saracen was a Gladiator.

0:42:04 > 0:42:07Well, maybe we did watch it and we're not admitting to it.

0:42:07 > 0:42:09We don't deserve our luck sometimes.

0:42:09 > 0:42:13- Right.- OK, next you gave me Scorpio.

0:42:15 > 0:42:19Was Scorpio a Gladiator in 1992?

0:42:19 > 0:42:21We need this to be right to stay in the game.

0:42:30 > 0:42:33Scorpio was a Gladiator.

0:42:35 > 0:42:37So it's all down to this.

0:42:39 > 0:42:43You guys thought it sounded right, you thought Beast...

0:42:43 > 0:42:45- "Come on, Beast!" - ..sounded like a Gladiator.

0:42:45 > 0:42:47It's probably Rogue.

0:42:47 > 0:42:48£1,200.

0:42:49 > 0:42:52Was Beast a Gladiator?

0:43:03 > 0:43:05- Oh!- Maxine. I am so sorry.

0:43:05 > 0:43:09- I am so, so sorry.- Have a little look at the correct answer.

0:43:10 > 0:43:13- It was Flame. - Oh, I had never thought Flame!

0:43:13 > 0:43:15- No.- Absolutely not.

0:43:15 > 0:43:20The other three - Havok, Beast and Rogue - were all X-Men characters.

0:43:20 > 0:43:23I mean, it was pure guesswork, but you almost did it.

0:43:23 > 0:43:27And you played the game so, so well. Give it up one more time for Maxine.

0:43:27 > 0:43:31Well done. APPLAUSE

0:43:31 > 0:43:35That is it for Debatable. There is just enough time for me to thank our

0:43:35 > 0:43:39fantastic panel - to Esther Rantzen, Alex James and Hal Cruttenden.

0:43:39 > 0:43:41APPLAUSE

0:43:41 > 0:43:44I do hope you've enjoyed watching. We will see you next time

0:43:44 > 0:43:46for more heated debates. For now it's goodbye from me.