Episode 4

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0:00:08 > 0:00:11CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:00:12 > 0:00:15Hello and welcome to Debatable, where today,

0:00:15 > 0:00:18one player must answer a series of tricky questions

0:00:18 > 0:00:21to try to walk away with a jackpot of over £2,000.

0:00:21 > 0:00:23As always, they're not on their own - they will have

0:00:23 > 0:00:27a panel of well-known faces debating their way to the answers.

0:00:27 > 0:00:29Will it be all talk and no action?

0:00:29 > 0:00:32As always, that is Debatable, so let's meet them.

0:00:32 > 0:00:34Chatting their way to the answers today,

0:00:34 > 0:00:36we have broadcaster Rick Edwards,

0:00:36 > 0:00:37we have Olympian and sports

0:00:37 > 0:00:39presenter Jonathan Edwards

0:00:39 > 0:00:41and retired MP and writer

0:00:41 > 0:00:42Ann Widdecombe.

0:00:42 > 0:00:44APPLAUSE

0:00:45 > 0:00:48That's the panel, let's meet today's contestant.

0:00:48 > 0:00:50It is Dorothy from Chorley.

0:00:52 > 0:00:56- Dorothy.- Hi.- How are you doing? - Good, thanks.- Welcome to the show.

0:00:56 > 0:00:58Tell us a little bit about yourself.

0:00:58 > 0:01:02As you said, I'm from Chorley, I work as a critical care nurse

0:01:02 > 0:01:05in a hospital near me, and I've done that since I was 18.

0:01:05 > 0:01:07Other than that, I just worked on the Manchester market

0:01:07 > 0:01:08selling dead chickens!

0:01:08 > 0:01:10LAUGHTER

0:01:10 > 0:01:12Hang on, hang on - you can't compare

0:01:12 > 0:01:16saving people's lives as a nurse to working with dead chickens!

0:01:16 > 0:01:20I didn't compare, they were the only two things I've ever done.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22- You like your job?- I LOVE my job, yes. It's hard work, but...

0:01:22 > 0:01:24What's the best thing about the job?

0:01:24 > 0:01:27Getting people better, seeing them progress,

0:01:27 > 0:01:31- and if you can't get them better, making it comfortable for them.- OK.

0:01:31 > 0:01:33Panel, Jonathan, you're in the chair. Sell yourself to Dorothy.

0:01:33 > 0:01:35What have you got to offer her today?

0:01:35 > 0:01:37Well, obviously the sporting knowledge.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39I've travelled round the world with my athletics

0:01:39 > 0:01:43and my sports broadcasting, so maybe a little bit on the geography side.

0:01:43 > 0:01:45But my strongest, I think, offering

0:01:45 > 0:01:48is the people to my right and my left.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50It looks a great team, well-balanced.

0:01:50 > 0:01:53I've just noticed that when Jonathan leans forward into the camera,

0:01:53 > 0:01:56he kind of has that sincerity that a politician needs, Ann.

0:01:56 > 0:01:58Yes, thank you very much(!)

0:01:58 > 0:02:01I'm the oldest on the team by a couple of decades,

0:02:01 > 0:02:06so I'm useful in as much as I can remember things they can't.

0:02:06 > 0:02:08- RICK:- I think that Jonathan was being

0:02:08 > 0:02:09quite modest,

0:02:09 > 0:02:11because he didn't even mention,

0:02:11 > 0:02:13and he won't mind me saying this,

0:02:13 > 0:02:16that he has also got a bronze Duke of Edinburgh award.

0:02:16 > 0:02:20- Yeah, I have! I have.- Excellent! - That could well come in handy.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24OK, well done, panel. I think this is going to go very well.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27Dorothy, you've got to pay close attention to what our panel

0:02:27 > 0:02:31have to say. You can only choose one of them in the final debate.

0:02:31 > 0:02:34- Ready for this?- Yes.- OK, here we go - let's play Round One.

0:02:37 > 0:02:39Round One is multiple choice, Dorothy.

0:02:39 > 0:02:41Four possible answers, only one is correct.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43Three questions in this round,

0:02:43 > 0:02:47£200 up for grabs for each correct answer, a possible 600.

0:02:47 > 0:02:49Here comes your first question.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05We're a highbrow show, as you can tell, Dorothy, from our words there.

0:03:05 > 0:03:08- Are you a Scrabble fan? - I enjoy playing Scrabble.

0:03:08 > 0:03:09Is there anything up there that stands out?

0:03:09 > 0:03:11Yes, I could perhaps work them out.

0:03:11 > 0:03:15Zippy has a Z and two Ps and a Y, so that's a ten,

0:03:15 > 0:03:16two threes and a four.

0:03:16 > 0:03:18Don't be doing any more calculating,

0:03:18 > 0:03:21because we want to actually see the panel suffer. Panel?

0:03:21 > 0:03:24No pens and paper for this, but your debate starts now.

0:03:24 > 0:03:28- Do we agree with Dorothy that Zippy is looking...?- Oh, forget Zippy.

0:03:28 > 0:03:32- Sooty is eight, isn't it? The other two are nine?- Sooty or Sweep?

0:03:32 > 0:03:35Hang on, Sooty is eight, do we agree?

0:03:35 > 0:03:37Yes, because S, O and T are all one,

0:03:37 > 0:03:39Y is four, so eight for Sooty...

0:03:39 > 0:03:41And do we agree that Sweep is nine?

0:03:41 > 0:03:44- Er, yes, because W is...- Four.

0:03:44 > 0:03:47- Actually, I think P is...- Two. - Three.- Oh, is it three?

0:03:47 > 0:03:49- Well, that's definitely out. - So, ten.- And Bungle's...

0:03:49 > 0:03:51Bungle - three, two...

0:03:51 > 0:03:53- Nine.- Nine?- Yes.

0:03:53 > 0:03:54And Zippy is...

0:03:54 > 0:03:57Loads. Zippy is 21, isn't it?

0:03:57 > 0:03:58JONATHAN: Yeah, Sooty.

0:03:58 > 0:04:01So we, the panel, are in violent agreement,

0:04:01 > 0:04:04it is Sooty which has the least score in Scrabble.

0:04:04 > 0:04:06Did you say you were in violent agreement?

0:04:06 > 0:04:10- Yes, we're most insistent, and it's rare.- Yes.

0:04:10 > 0:04:12They sound very convincing there, Dorothy.

0:04:12 > 0:04:14I'm well impressed with the knowledge

0:04:14 > 0:04:17and I'm sure that they've got to be right.

0:04:17 > 0:04:19OK, you're going with the panel.

0:04:19 > 0:04:22You're also saying Sooty to get you up and running. For £200,

0:04:22 > 0:04:25is Sooty worth the least in Scrabble?

0:04:31 > 0:04:34It is! Very well played.

0:04:35 > 0:04:37- Very well done.- Thank you, team!

0:04:37 > 0:04:39Very well played. Well done, panel.

0:04:39 > 0:04:41In violent agreement.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44So, let's have a look at these - Zippy is worth 21 points...

0:04:44 > 0:04:46Bungle is worth nine points,

0:04:46 > 0:04:49Sooty is worth eight and Sweep is worth ten -

0:04:49 > 0:04:51very well played, Dorothy.

0:04:51 > 0:04:53You're up and running, £200 in the prize pot.

0:04:56 > 0:04:58Here comes your next one.

0:05:13 > 0:05:15Now, what do those eyebrows mean, Dorothy?

0:05:15 > 0:05:19- It means that I know the panel will know the answer to this.- OK.

0:05:19 > 0:05:23- You believe that the panel will know this.- I have every confidence.

0:05:23 > 0:05:25You have every confidence in the panel,

0:05:25 > 0:05:27this can only go one way, panel. Your debate starts now.

0:05:27 > 0:05:29Has London ever been the City of Culture?

0:05:29 > 0:05:31London, there's basically no need.

0:05:31 > 0:05:34- It's kind of given to...- Easy, now.

0:05:34 > 0:05:37- ..cities as a way of...- Easy, now.

0:05:37 > 0:05:40Just working out how to phrase this!

0:05:40 > 0:05:42Like Liverpool in 2008,

0:05:42 > 0:05:45I remember Newcastle Gateshead was bidding for the City of Culture.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47We were in a little school in Walker, waiting for Tessa Jowell

0:05:47 > 0:05:50actually, to make the announcement

0:05:50 > 0:05:51and she said Liverpool.

0:05:51 > 0:05:54I think Newcastle Gateshead was already doing

0:05:54 > 0:05:58a huge amount - Angel of the North... I'm not bitter.

0:05:58 > 0:06:00I say this is Glasgow and the reason

0:06:00 > 0:06:02I say this is Glasgow is I was a minister at the time.

0:06:03 > 0:06:05That is quite persuasive, isn't it?

0:06:05 > 0:06:07What Minister were you at that time?

0:06:07 > 0:06:09I think when that happened, I was probably in Employment,

0:06:09 > 0:06:12but it could have been Social Security or the Home Office,

0:06:12 > 0:06:13I just remember it happening.

0:06:13 > 0:06:17Cardiff actually I think is the European Capital of Sport

0:06:17 > 0:06:21this year, or last year, but not European Capital of Culture.

0:06:21 > 0:06:24So, our answer is Glasgow.

0:06:24 > 0:06:27So, Dorothy, they think they know this one.

0:06:27 > 0:06:29I think they talked that through well, yes.

0:06:29 > 0:06:33I think I remember Glasgow being up there, so, hopefully,

0:06:33 > 0:06:36it's the one that ties with culture, so I'll go with the panel.

0:06:36 > 0:06:40OK, you're going with the panel - you say Glasgow. For £200 -

0:06:40 > 0:06:43is Glasgow a former European City of Culture?

0:06:51 > 0:06:52It is!

0:06:54 > 0:06:59Very well done, panel. Glasgow was European City of Culture in 1990.

0:06:59 > 0:07:02Well played, Dorothy. That's another £200 into the prize pot.

0:07:02 > 0:07:03You're up to £400.

0:07:06 > 0:07:09Let's see if we can make it a clean sweep in Round One, here it comes.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25- Getting harder! - What are you thinking?

0:07:25 > 0:07:27I'm hoping the panel have got the answer!

0:07:27 > 0:07:29So, panel...

0:07:29 > 0:07:30Your debate starts now.

0:07:30 > 0:07:32We're feeling less confident, I would say,

0:07:32 > 0:07:35- even though I haven't spoken... - Yeah...

0:07:35 > 0:07:38- There's no violent agreement. - There isn't.- You can feel the vibe!

0:07:38 > 0:07:41So do we agree that Chinook is obviously a helicopter,

0:07:41 > 0:07:42but is it named after a wind?

0:07:42 > 0:07:44That seems likely, doesn't it?

0:07:44 > 0:07:49The only other one that I think I know is a wind is a Loo wind,

0:07:49 > 0:07:51because I think when I was a kid, I found that funny.

0:07:51 > 0:07:55Muselet sounds quite romantic, as a wind might, but...

0:07:55 > 0:07:57"As a wind might!"

0:07:57 > 0:07:59You know, "The Muselet coming down from the mountains."

0:07:59 > 0:08:03Helm is quite likely to be the name of a wind.

0:08:03 > 0:08:05Kind of nautical parlance?

0:08:05 > 0:08:09I mean, I'm looking between Helm and Muselet, which, to be fair,

0:08:09 > 0:08:12I was going to pronounce Muse-let, so I'm glad that...!

0:08:12 > 0:08:13So was I.

0:08:14 > 0:08:17Oh, no, the Muse-let is picking up.

0:08:17 > 0:08:22- Or is Chinook just a helicopter? - Great question! I don't know!

0:08:22 > 0:08:26I think the thing about Chinook is it must be named after

0:08:26 > 0:08:28something and it just...

0:08:28 > 0:08:32I reckon the odd one out is Muselet.

0:08:32 > 0:08:35- Muse-let.- OK. - Although, of course,

0:08:35 > 0:08:39you are of course worried that it sounds romantic, "as a wind might".

0:08:39 > 0:08:43- As a wind might!- Very cautiously. - Or not, as the case may be.

0:08:43 > 0:08:45So the panel is less certain about this one.

0:08:45 > 0:08:49- We're going to go for Muselet, or Muse-lett, or...- Muse-let.

0:08:49 > 0:08:51Hm.

0:08:51 > 0:08:54- What do you make of that, Dorothy?- Um...

0:08:54 > 0:08:56Yes, the Loo wind sounds right.

0:08:56 > 0:09:01Helm wind sounds right, this is where I hit my indecisions!

0:09:01 > 0:09:04Muselet does sound like it could be a wind,

0:09:04 > 0:09:07but the panel has brought me this far, so I'll stick with the panel.

0:09:07 > 0:09:09- Muselet.- OK, you're sticking with the panel

0:09:09 > 0:09:11on the basis that they brought you this far.

0:09:11 > 0:09:15Is Muselet the correct answer for £200?

0:09:22 > 0:09:23It is!

0:09:25 > 0:09:28THEY SPEAK OVER EACH OTHER

0:09:30 > 0:09:31Well debated!

0:09:31 > 0:09:34- Well debated.- Well debated. - Never in doubt(!)

0:09:34 > 0:09:36Good knowledge there, panel.

0:09:36 > 0:09:39Muselet is the French word for the little cage

0:09:39 > 0:09:42that goes over the cork on a champagne bottle,

0:09:42 > 0:09:45so it's actually got more to do with gas than wind.

0:09:45 > 0:09:48Very well done, Dorothy. You can't do better than that.

0:09:48 > 0:09:50At the end of Round One, you're on £600.

0:09:50 > 0:09:52Thanks, panel!

0:09:54 > 0:09:56So, how do you think our panel are faring so far, Dorothy?

0:09:56 > 0:10:00Their debating powers and their knowledge is phenomenal.

0:10:00 > 0:10:02Anybody in particular standing out for you?

0:10:02 > 0:10:04I wouldn't like to say at this point. I don't want to...

0:10:04 > 0:10:06Treat them mean, keep them keen -

0:10:06 > 0:10:08you get to choose one at the end of the show.

0:10:08 > 0:10:11Let's see how they cope with pictures. It's time for Round Two.

0:10:13 > 0:10:16Round Two is the picture round, Dorothy.

0:10:16 > 0:10:18We need you to put three pictures in order.

0:10:18 > 0:10:19Two questions in this round,

0:10:19 > 0:10:21£300 for each correct answer,

0:10:21 > 0:10:23a possible 600 up for grabs.

0:10:23 > 0:10:24Here comes your first one.

0:10:45 > 0:10:48- I'm looking at the plants in the garden, not the birds!- No clue?

0:10:48 > 0:10:51My husband, if he watches this at home, he'll be shouting,

0:10:51 > 0:10:52"You should have known that one!"

0:10:52 > 0:10:55- So your husband, bit of a bird-watcher?- Yeah.

0:10:55 > 0:10:57Don't worry, Dorothy. I'm sure our panel can sort this out.

0:10:57 > 0:10:59Panel, your debate starts now.

0:10:59 > 0:11:01I can only go on personal

0:11:01 > 0:11:02experience, nothing else, cos

0:11:02 > 0:11:03- I don't have the knowledge.- Hm.

0:11:03 > 0:11:05But I see blue tits and blackbirds

0:11:05 > 0:11:07all the time in the garden.

0:11:07 > 0:11:08I don't often see a chaffinch.

0:11:08 > 0:11:10What's your feeling?

0:11:10 > 0:11:11I would agree with you that

0:11:11 > 0:11:13the chaffinch is the least spotted.

0:11:13 > 0:11:15Shall we start here?

0:11:15 > 0:11:16That one goes up there, yes.

0:11:16 > 0:11:17And then...

0:11:17 > 0:11:20- I used to sketch birds when I was younger.- Oh, yeah?- Oh, well done.

0:11:20 > 0:11:22- Particularly a bullfinch. - Keep talking.

0:11:22 > 0:11:25I used to do a bullfinch.

0:11:25 > 0:11:28I think I see more blue tits than blackbirds.

0:11:28 > 0:11:31- I think I do...- I think I probably do as well. Where do we all live?

0:11:31 > 0:11:33- I live in Devon.- Newcastle.- OK.

0:11:33 > 0:11:37But I have lived in London and in Kent and I would say the same

0:11:37 > 0:11:40- applied.- Well, I've got London, Newcastle, Devon.

0:11:40 > 0:11:43We all think we see more blue tits than blackbirds.

0:11:43 > 0:11:44- Yeah.- They feel more common, blackbirds,

0:11:44 > 0:11:46don't they, than blue tits?

0:11:46 > 0:11:47Maybe it's just because they LOOK common.

0:11:47 > 0:11:52- That's mean!- I mean, slightly mean, but that is more colourful. Anyway.

0:11:52 > 0:11:55- I mean, sparrows presumably are the most common?- Oh, sparrows galore.

0:11:55 > 0:11:59- And you've got thrushes, wrens... - Starlings.- Oh, can't bear them.

0:11:59 > 0:12:03- Crows.- My mum doesn't like starlings.- And magpies.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05OK, on that basis,

0:12:05 > 0:12:07the panel has decided the chaffinch is the least sighted,

0:12:07 > 0:12:09the blue tit's the most sighted

0:12:09 > 0:12:11and the blackbird in the middle.

0:12:11 > 0:12:15So, not hugely scientific, but they do live from Devon to London

0:12:15 > 0:12:18to Newcastle, and our panel is going for that order.

0:12:18 > 0:12:22They think the chaffinch, then the blackbird, then the blue tit.

0:12:22 > 0:12:25I think blackbirds might be more common than blue tits,

0:12:25 > 0:12:29but you see a blue tit if you put food down for it and I think

0:12:29 > 0:12:36the people that have been doing the survey will be the bird-watchers.

0:12:36 > 0:12:38So you think they may be putting the food out?

0:12:38 > 0:12:41Yes, and therefore they may see more blue tits.

0:12:41 > 0:12:46- So you're going for...?- Stick with chaffinch, blackbird and blue tit.

0:12:46 > 0:12:48OK, you're going to go with the panel.

0:12:48 > 0:12:50For £300, is that the correct order?

0:12:58 > 0:13:00It IS the correct order!

0:13:01 > 0:13:03My team!

0:13:04 > 0:13:08- Very well done, panel.- Thanks, again.- Very well played, Dorothy.

0:13:08 > 0:13:10Chaffinch came in at seventh,

0:13:10 > 0:13:13blackbird came fourth and the blue tit came third.

0:13:13 > 0:13:16The house sparrow came first.

0:13:16 > 0:13:19Well done, Dorothy, that's another £300 into the prize pot,

0:13:19 > 0:13:20you're up to £900.

0:13:24 > 0:13:26Let's see if we can keep this run going,

0:13:26 > 0:13:28here comes your next picture question.

0:13:49 > 0:13:53- Well, I've not eaten in any of those places, so...- Nor have I!

0:13:53 > 0:13:55Le Gavroche sounds very expensive

0:13:55 > 0:13:56and an address like Mayfair,

0:13:56 > 0:13:59it's £400 on the Monopoly board!

0:14:00 > 0:14:03I love that, working out how expensive the restaurant is

0:14:03 > 0:14:04by the Monopoly board!

0:14:04 > 0:14:07Mayfair, £2,000 with a hotel.

0:14:07 > 0:14:10So...I shall see what my esteemed panel say.

0:14:10 > 0:14:12What you want is a panel of showbiz luvvies that

0:14:12 > 0:14:14no doubt have eaten in all three.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17OK, panel, your debate starts now.

0:14:17 > 0:14:19I've been to Le Gavroche and neither of the others.

0:14:19 > 0:14:21- I haven't been to any of them. - I've been to Barrafina.

0:14:21 > 0:14:25This is Michel Roux Jr, and it's definitely three stars.

0:14:25 > 0:14:27- So that's... - So that must be our top one.

0:14:27 > 0:14:30I'm sure The Fat Duck in Berkshire is better than something in

0:14:30 > 0:14:33- Soho, quite sure of it. - And that's definitely at least two.

0:14:33 > 0:14:36- It's unusual.- This is Heston Blumenthal's gaff, isn't it?

0:14:36 > 0:14:38- Is it?- Yes, it is.

0:14:38 > 0:14:40I was going to say that I think Barrafina,

0:14:40 > 0:14:43the one that I ate in, is only one.

0:14:43 > 0:14:45I say only one, it's not bad still!

0:14:45 > 0:14:48- I don't know who cooks there. - No, I don't, actually.

0:14:48 > 0:14:51So in order, starting with the one with the fewest Michelin stars,

0:14:51 > 0:14:53I'm going to go Barrafina there...

0:14:53 > 0:14:54- Le Gavroche...- With three.

0:14:54 > 0:14:58- The Fat Duck...- And you're sure this one is not a surprise?

0:14:58 > 0:15:02No, that's Heston Blumenthal's restaurant and it's two or three.

0:15:02 > 0:15:04Fine, I don't know.

0:15:04 > 0:15:05That would be my guess.

0:15:05 > 0:15:07So, yes. The panel's decision...

0:15:07 > 0:15:11Barrafina we think has one star, The Fat Duck is two stars,

0:15:11 > 0:15:14but still with three stars, Le Gavroche restaurant.

0:15:14 > 0:15:15That's our choice, Dorothy.

0:15:17 > 0:15:18You seem pretty sure about this one.

0:15:18 > 0:15:20Impressive knowledge. I hope!

0:15:20 > 0:15:24So far, I've relied on my panel and they've never let me down,

0:15:24 > 0:15:29so I think I should stick with the panel until they tell me otherwise.

0:15:29 > 0:15:32Going with the panel again,

0:15:32 > 0:15:34let's see if we can keep this run continuing.

0:15:34 > 0:15:36Is that the correct order for £300?

0:15:43 > 0:15:47Ooh! It's the wrong order.

0:15:47 > 0:15:49JONATHAN: Goodness, that's a shocker.

0:15:49 > 0:15:51Let's have a look at the correct order.

0:15:54 > 0:15:57Barrafina, then Le Gavroche,

0:15:57 > 0:16:00THEN The Fat Duck.

0:16:00 > 0:16:02Barrafina has one star,

0:16:02 > 0:16:06Le Gavroche has two stars and The Fat Duck,

0:16:06 > 0:16:08three stars.

0:16:08 > 0:16:12- Hmm.- It's a good job Heston is not on the panel!

0:16:12 > 0:16:14So, the panel's run has come to an end

0:16:14 > 0:16:16and I'm in shock.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19It was the authority that you delivered that with.

0:16:19 > 0:16:21- JONATHAN: We were sure about that one.- Tell you what,

0:16:21 > 0:16:23we're not going to Le Gavroche any more.

0:16:23 > 0:16:26You're not going to be invited, now you got that wrong!

0:16:26 > 0:16:29I don't think I was getting invited before!

0:16:29 > 0:16:33OK, Dorothy. Still £1,000 up for grabs. It's time for Round Three.

0:16:36 > 0:16:38In Round Three, Dorothy,

0:16:38 > 0:16:41you're going to face questions that contain three statements

0:16:41 > 0:16:44about a person, a place or a thing. Only one is true.

0:16:44 > 0:16:46We need you to find those true statements.

0:16:46 > 0:16:47Because it's the final round,

0:16:47 > 0:16:50the money goes up to £500 for each correct answer.

0:16:50 > 0:16:52So, best of luck. Here we go.

0:17:16 > 0:17:18How's your history, Dorothy?

0:17:18 > 0:17:21They've done that very cleverly, haven't they, with that 1066?

0:17:21 > 0:17:23LAUGHTER

0:17:24 > 0:17:28Yes, they have cunningly put 1066 in all of the options.

0:17:28 > 0:17:30- Yes, yes, yes. - LAUGHTER

0:17:30 > 0:17:32The fiends!

0:17:32 > 0:17:35Well, William the Conqueror, you know, there was something

0:17:35 > 0:17:37about William in 1066 but I don't think it involved Christmas Day.

0:17:37 > 0:17:40But then again, maybe he was...

0:17:40 > 0:17:41Hold that thought.

0:17:41 > 0:17:43Let's go over to our historical experts, panel,

0:17:43 > 0:17:45your debate starts now.

0:17:45 > 0:17:48- Well, I think you could probably run out the second because...- Started...

0:17:48 > 0:17:51It was started but I can't believe it was finished in 1066.

0:17:51 > 0:17:54- No, I don't think it was. - I think you can cross that out.

0:17:54 > 0:17:56The third one is really very obvious, isn't it?

0:17:56 > 0:18:00I mean, we know that William the Conqueror came over and won in 1066.

0:18:00 > 0:18:05Yeah. Presumably, he would have been crowned king in 1066?

0:18:05 > 0:18:07Or would they have...? Would it have taken a bit longer?

0:18:07 > 0:18:09It wouldn't have taken longer to crown him unless

0:18:09 > 0:18:12- he met an awful lot of resistance after Hastings.- Mm.

0:18:12 > 0:18:14They've kind of got rid of the resistance, haven't they?

0:18:14 > 0:18:16- LAUGHTER - If it was Christmas Day,

0:18:16 > 0:18:18would it not perhaps be common knowledge?

0:18:18 > 0:18:20In the sense, you know, "He was crowned on Christmas Day,"

0:18:20 > 0:18:23- type thing.- Yeah, maybe on the tapestry,

0:18:23 > 0:18:26- there'd be a Christmas tree at the end.- Yeah.

0:18:26 > 0:18:27A few lights... Ann...

0:18:27 > 0:18:29- It wouldn't be a Christmas tree.- Sorry, Ann!

0:18:29 > 0:18:31LAUGHTER

0:18:31 > 0:18:33Hang on - would they crown a king on Christmas Day

0:18:33 > 0:18:35or would that be sacrilegious?

0:18:35 > 0:18:39- Ooh, yeah.- You know the one I actually rather like is Macbeth.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42Was the character Macbeth, I don't know this,

0:18:42 > 0:18:46- based on a real Scottish king? - Oh, Macbeth existed, yes.- OK.

0:18:46 > 0:18:49So we're going to go either the first or the third.

0:18:49 > 0:18:51- I think so.- Your bet?- I would probably go for

0:18:51 > 0:18:55crowned on Christmas Day in 1066, cos if you're going to get crowned

0:18:55 > 0:18:57and you've got to pick a day, pick a good one.

0:18:57 > 0:19:01As Ann says, you wouldn't have a Christmas tree but it's not all bad.

0:19:01 > 0:19:04Probably have some crackers, wouldn't you? Christmas Day, Ann?

0:19:04 > 0:19:06I think we have a majority for Christmas Day and

0:19:06 > 0:19:08a minority vote for possibly Macbeth,

0:19:08 > 0:19:10but I'm not wholly convinced it could be Christmas Day.

0:19:10 > 0:19:13- That's not much of a flow, is it? - Over to you, skipper.

0:19:13 > 0:19:16I don't like it! I don't like Christmas Day. You liked Macbeth...

0:19:16 > 0:19:21- I...- Go with whatever you feel, Jonathan.- Right.- Yes, no pressure.

0:19:21 > 0:19:23- There's no pressure. - No pressure, no.

0:19:23 > 0:19:27From this side of the studio, there is pressure.

0:19:27 > 0:19:28LAUGHTER

0:19:28 > 0:19:32On the basis that Dorothy is going to make her own mind up,

0:19:32 > 0:19:35we're going to gently advise her on Macbeth

0:19:35 > 0:19:41- being killed in battle in 1066.- So, a majority decision from our panel.

0:19:41 > 0:19:43What do you make of that, Dorothy?

0:19:43 > 0:19:45- It's probably B, but I'll go for C.- You think it's probably B

0:19:45 > 0:19:48- but you're going to go for C? - Yes!

0:19:48 > 0:19:51Going against the panel? We like this, Dorothy.

0:19:51 > 0:19:54- Just totally dismissed ours. - LAUGHTER

0:19:54 > 0:19:57Christmas Day wasn't that big a deal in 1066.

0:19:57 > 0:19:59OK, so, you're going against the panel.

0:19:59 > 0:20:01You believe that William the Conqueror was crowned King on

0:20:01 > 0:20:03Christmas Day in 1066.

0:20:03 > 0:20:05Is that true, for £500?

0:20:14 > 0:20:17It is!

0:20:18 > 0:20:23Well done, Dorothy. Very well done. Sorry, very well done, Dorothy.

0:20:23 > 0:20:27No, the debating sets your mind thinking and rolling and...

0:20:27 > 0:20:30So, the fact that they debated and went for the wrong answer

0:20:30 > 0:20:33- led you to the right answer? - Correct, undoubtedly,

0:20:33 > 0:20:36- and I couldn't have done it without you guys.- Always our plan.

0:20:36 > 0:20:39Well played, the real Macbeth was killed in battle against Malcolm III

0:20:39 > 0:20:41in the year 1057.

0:20:41 > 0:20:44The Domesday book was William the Conqueror's survey of England,

0:20:44 > 0:20:47- it was commissioned in 1085. - It wasn't even started.

0:20:47 > 0:20:49Very well done, Dorothy.

0:20:49 > 0:20:51You were right to go against the panel.

0:20:51 > 0:20:53It means your prize pot is up to £1,400!

0:20:53 > 0:20:57APPLAUSE

0:20:57 > 0:21:01Still £500 up for grabs. Here's your final question of this round.

0:21:24 > 0:21:26- What do you think?- I think I've got an idea.

0:21:26 > 0:21:29You're going to hold on to that idea and we'll let the panel

0:21:29 > 0:21:31- sweat this out?- Yeah.- OK.

0:21:31 > 0:21:33We're going to keep our powder dry over here, panel.

0:21:33 > 0:21:36What do you make of this? Your debate starts now.

0:21:36 > 0:21:37So, was Chaplin a rebel?

0:21:37 > 0:21:40- Did he refuse to attend the Academy ceremony in 1972?- Why would he?

0:21:40 > 0:21:42- What would have been the reason? - Yeah, I'm trying to think...

0:21:42 > 0:21:45Is there anything politically sensitive in '72?

0:21:45 > 0:21:47Real-life daughter played his mother in the 1992 film?

0:21:47 > 0:21:48Could quite easily do.

0:21:48 > 0:21:51So, his granddaughter, Una Chaplin, is an actress, quite possible...

0:21:51 > 0:21:55- I don't know who his daughter is, actually.- That's feasible, isn't it?

0:21:55 > 0:21:57Yeah, and also it's a believable thing

0:21:57 > 0:21:59that if I'm a casting director, I'd think,

0:21:59 > 0:22:02"Oh, this is cute, this is a nice little nod."

0:22:02 > 0:22:04Two and three are quite plausible.

0:22:04 > 0:22:07Yeah, to be honest they're all quite plausible.

0:22:07 > 0:22:08Yeah, we can't eliminate anything.

0:22:08 > 0:22:10We've just got to go on what we think is...

0:22:10 > 0:22:13No, I'd get rid of the Oscars one just because we can't think

0:22:13 > 0:22:16of any particular reason that he wouldn't have attended.

0:22:16 > 0:22:20- We'll go for the middle one. - We'll go for the middle one.- Yeah,

0:22:20 > 0:22:23on the basis that acting is in the family

0:22:23 > 0:22:24and it's the most interesting,

0:22:24 > 0:22:26we'll go for the middle one,

0:22:26 > 0:22:30that his daughter played his mother in the 1992 film Chaplin.

0:22:30 > 0:22:33The panel have gone for his real-life daughter playing

0:22:33 > 0:22:34his mother in the movie.

0:22:34 > 0:22:37- What was your first thought? - That was my first thought.

0:22:37 > 0:22:39- Ooh.- Anything in there to make you change your mind?

0:22:39 > 0:22:42And I ain't going to ruin it, I'll stick with that first thought,

0:22:42 > 0:22:45- with the panel, they're back on form.- OK, that's your first thought.

0:22:45 > 0:22:48You're agreeing with the panel.

0:22:48 > 0:22:51For £500, did Charlie Chaplin's real-life daughter play his

0:22:51 > 0:22:52mother in the 1992 film Chaplin?

0:23:02 > 0:23:03She did!

0:23:06 > 0:23:09- Well done, that was a result. - Very well done.

0:23:09 > 0:23:11Good knowledge there from Dorothy.

0:23:11 > 0:23:16In fact, he memorably ATTENDED the Academy Awards in 1972.

0:23:16 > 0:23:20He was 82 years old and he received a 12-minute standing ovation,

0:23:20 > 0:23:23which, to date, is the longest standing ovation

0:23:23 > 0:23:24in the history of the Oscars.

0:23:24 > 0:23:27Well done, Dorothy. You're doing ever so well.

0:23:27 > 0:23:30At the end of Round Three, your prize pot is up to £1,900!

0:23:30 > 0:23:33- APPLAUSE - Exciting!

0:23:35 > 0:23:38What do you think you'll do with the cash if you manage to win today?

0:23:38 > 0:23:41My eldest daughter currently lives in Australia.

0:23:41 > 0:23:43She's been there for a year

0:23:43 > 0:23:45and she's going on to Canada,

0:23:45 > 0:23:48so I'm going to meet her up in Canada with the cousins

0:23:48 > 0:23:52and have Thanksgiving in Canada, in Vancouver, by the looks of it.

0:23:52 > 0:23:56OK, so, there's a family reunion at stake,

0:23:56 > 0:24:01there is only one question between you and that money.

0:24:01 > 0:24:03- It is of course the final debate question.- Oh...

0:24:03 > 0:24:08Six possible answers, we need you to give us the three correct answers.

0:24:08 > 0:24:10As always, you're not going to be on your own,

0:24:10 > 0:24:13you will get to choose one of these fine panellists to help you.

0:24:13 > 0:24:15So, who would you like to join you in the final debate?

0:24:15 > 0:24:18Will you be scrambling around for the answers with Rick?

0:24:18 > 0:24:20Will Jonathan be the wind beneath your wings

0:24:20 > 0:24:24or will you make a blue tit of yourself with Ann?

0:24:24 > 0:24:27Well, Ann seems to have a similar knowledge base to me,

0:24:27 > 0:24:29so I think together we can make it!

0:24:29 > 0:24:32OK, Ann, please join us for the final debate.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39OK, Ann, Dorothy has chosen you for the final debate.

0:24:39 > 0:24:40Are you feeling confident?

0:24:40 > 0:24:44Well, no, not at all. I mean, I can't do sport, I cant do pop,

0:24:44 > 0:24:46I can't do film, I can't do TV,

0:24:46 > 0:24:48I can't do much after 1066, actually!

0:24:48 > 0:24:50LAUGHTER

0:24:50 > 0:24:52Well, look, as it is the final debate,

0:24:52 > 0:24:54you get an option to choose between these two topics.

0:24:54 > 0:24:57- Have a look at these, tell me what you fancy.- Oh!

0:25:01 > 0:25:05- Dance.- Dance. - OK, you're going for Dance.

0:25:06 > 0:25:09£1,900 up for grabs, we all wish you the best of luck.

0:25:09 > 0:25:12Here comes your final debate question.

0:25:31 > 0:25:33Your final debate starts now.

0:25:33 > 0:25:38- Ballroom...- Quickstep... Tango.

0:25:38 > 0:25:42And I would have said Viennese Waltz.

0:25:42 > 0:25:45- So, Viennese Waltz... - Quickstep and Tango.

0:25:45 > 0:25:50- ..Quickstep and Tango.- But don't be led by me, that's just my view.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53- What sort of dance is the Merengue? - A darn silly one, probably.

0:25:53 > 0:25:56- I don't know. - LAUGHTER

0:25:56 > 0:26:00That's in Dirty Dancing, I know that much. They do the Merengue.

0:26:00 > 0:26:02And the Bossa Nova...

0:26:02 > 0:26:04Viennese Waltz is definitely a ballroom... A tango...

0:26:04 > 0:26:06- Those three are ballroom. - Definitely ballroom.

0:26:06 > 0:26:10- So, Viennese Waltz, Quickstep and Tango...- Actually, Polka's ballroom.

0:26:10 > 0:26:13Are the...? Official competition ballroom dances,

0:26:13 > 0:26:17defined by the World Dance Council.

0:26:17 > 0:26:19Tango...

0:26:19 > 0:26:22Time is up, I need three answers, Dorothy.

0:26:22 > 0:26:26- Viennese Waltz, Quickstep, Tango. - Viennese Waltz, Quickstep, Tango.

0:26:26 > 0:26:29You know how this works, we need all three of these to be correct.

0:26:29 > 0:26:30Yep, I know.

0:26:31 > 0:26:34So, for £1,900,

0:26:34 > 0:26:38is the Viennese Waltz an official competition ballroom dance?

0:26:47 > 0:26:51It is! APPLAUSE

0:26:51 > 0:26:53Originating from folk dances in Germany and Austria.

0:26:53 > 0:26:56Next, you gave me the Quickstep.

0:26:56 > 0:27:00We need this to be right to keep you in the game for £1,900.

0:27:02 > 0:27:05Is Quickstep an official ballroom dance?

0:27:13 > 0:27:15It is! APPLAUSE

0:27:15 > 0:27:18It's Tango or Polka.

0:27:18 > 0:27:21The Quickstep is like the Foxtrot only, would you believe, quicker?

0:27:21 > 0:27:25- Oh, never!- So, Dorothy, it all boils down to this.

0:27:25 > 0:27:27You gave me Tango.

0:27:27 > 0:27:29For £1,900...

0:27:31 > 0:27:36..is Tango an official ballroom dance?

0:27:46 > 0:27:47Yes!

0:27:47 > 0:27:50CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:27:51 > 0:27:54Have confidence!

0:27:54 > 0:27:56Well played! You have just won £1,900! Well done!

0:27:59 > 0:28:02- Canada, here I come! - Canada, here you come!

0:28:02 > 0:28:05Well done, Dorothy. There we go.

0:28:05 > 0:28:07That is it for Debatable.

0:28:07 > 0:28:09Just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel -

0:28:09 > 0:28:12to Ann Widdecombe, to Rick Edwards and Jonathan Edwards!

0:28:12 > 0:28:14APPLAUSE I hope you've enjoyed watching,

0:28:14 > 0:28:16we'll see you next time for more heated debates.

0:28:16 > 0:28:18For now, it's goodbye from me.

0:28:18 > 0:28:21CHEERING AND APPLAUSE