0:00:10 > 0:00:11CHEERING
0:00:13 > 0:00:16Hello and welcome to Debatable, where today,
0:00:16 > 0:00:19one player must answer a series of tricky questions to try to
0:00:19 > 0:00:22walk away with a jackpot of over £2,000.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24But as always, they're not on their own, they will have
0:00:24 > 0:00:27a panel of well-known faces debating their way to the answers.
0:00:27 > 0:00:31Will they help or will they hinder? As always, that is debatable.
0:00:31 > 0:00:32So, let's meet them!
0:00:32 > 0:00:34Straight-talking today,
0:00:34 > 0:00:36we have broadcaster Rick Edwards,
0:00:36 > 0:00:37TV presenter Rav Wilding
0:00:37 > 0:00:40and we have retired MP and writer Ann Widdecombe.
0:00:40 > 0:00:41APPLAUSE
0:00:45 > 0:00:49OK, that is today's panel, let's meet today's contestant,
0:00:49 > 0:00:50it is Loussin from London!
0:00:54 > 0:00:57- Hello, Loussin, welcome to the show. - Thank you, nice to meet you.
0:00:57 > 0:00:58So tell us a little bit about yourself.
0:00:58 > 0:01:01My name's Loussin and I'm 22 years old.
0:01:01 > 0:01:04I'm a receptionist for an engineering company.
0:01:04 > 0:01:07I've also got a lot of interests in singing.
0:01:07 > 0:01:10So is that something you do in work or in your spare time?
0:01:10 > 0:01:14Well, sometimes people walk past the office, and if they catch me
0:01:14 > 0:01:15through the door they'll see me going,
0:01:15 > 0:01:17"Shake it off, shake it off..."
0:01:17 > 0:01:18LAUGHTER
0:01:18 > 0:01:21How long have you had this job, Loussin?
0:01:21 > 0:01:25- It's actually soon to be ending. - Really(?) I wonder why!
0:01:25 > 0:01:29I plan to finish in a few months and I'm thinking of going travelling.
0:01:29 > 0:01:32So really, what you need is potentially
0:01:32 > 0:01:35a quiz show where you could get yourself a couple of grand...
0:01:35 > 0:01:36LOUSSIN LAUGHS
0:01:36 > 0:01:39- Hey, what are the chances(?) - What are the chances?
0:01:39 > 0:01:42- Now I CAN go to India. - How long you been singing for?
0:01:42 > 0:01:43Maybe the age of 13.
0:01:43 > 0:01:46And I started doing open mic nights when I went to uni,
0:01:46 > 0:01:48and now I'm doing jazz.
0:01:48 > 0:01:52You do know that you're on the wrong show really? These people...
0:01:52 > 0:01:53We're not judges!
0:01:53 > 0:01:56Hang on, give us a tune and let's see if you go through
0:01:56 > 0:01:57to the next round.
0:01:57 > 0:02:00I'm going to do Billionaire, cos I feel like, appropriate.
0:02:00 > 0:02:02Not on this show, I have to say.
0:02:02 > 0:02:03LAUGHTER
0:02:03 > 0:02:07With the money we're dishing out here. Go ahead.
0:02:07 > 0:02:10# I want to be a billionaire so frickin' bad... #
0:02:10 > 0:02:12Hey, hey, hey, hey...
0:02:12 > 0:02:16# Buy all of the things I never had... #
0:02:16 > 0:02:20- OK, let's go to our panel, Ann, is it a yes from you?- I'm tone-deaf.
0:02:20 > 0:02:24- So that's a no from you then? - I wouldn't know.- OK.
0:02:24 > 0:02:28- Let's go to Simon. - You made that song your own.
0:02:28 > 0:02:30LOUSSIN SIGHS CONTENTEDLY
0:02:30 > 0:02:33- And finally, Louis.- Ohh...
0:02:33 > 0:02:34LAUGHTER
0:02:36 > 0:02:39What is it? "I didn't like it - I loved it." That sort of thing?
0:02:39 > 0:02:41- LOUSSIN:- Yeah! - APPLAUSE
0:02:41 > 0:02:44- Ready to play?- I'm ready, I was born ready.- Born ready, here we go.
0:02:44 > 0:02:46It's time for Round One.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52Round One is multiple choice, four possible answers,
0:02:52 > 0:02:55only one is correct, three questions in this round.
0:02:55 > 0:02:59£200 up for grabs for each correct answer, a possible 600 quid.
0:02:59 > 0:03:00Here's your first question.
0:03:17 > 0:03:19I've a feeling it's Winston Churchill,
0:03:19 > 0:03:21but I'm going to need Ann to help me out here.
0:03:22 > 0:03:25OK. Panel, your debate starts now.
0:03:25 > 0:03:27It's got to be Winston Churchill, I would have thought.
0:03:27 > 0:03:30- Because he was a prolific writer. - OK.
0:03:30 > 0:03:32I don't know that he ever got a Nobel Prize,
0:03:32 > 0:03:35so I would have thought that was the most likely out of that.
0:03:35 > 0:03:39Are there any we can eliminate, nice and easily? Castro?
0:03:39 > 0:03:41I would be tempted to eliminate Castro.
0:03:41 > 0:03:43I don't know, I feel like it is possible to be
0:03:43 > 0:03:45a communist and also like literature.
0:03:45 > 0:03:48- Yes, but did he?- I don't know.
0:03:48 > 0:03:50It wasn't JFK, was it?
0:03:50 > 0:03:54And I can't remember that Charles de Gaulle ever wrote anything of...
0:03:54 > 0:03:56that level of significance.
0:03:56 > 0:03:57Yeah, Charles de Gaulle,
0:03:57 > 0:04:00I've certainly never read any of his books.
0:04:00 > 0:04:02- RIPPLE OF LAUGHTER - How many of them are there?
0:04:02 > 0:04:04Four.
0:04:04 > 0:04:06- LAUGHTER - Really? Can you name them?
0:04:06 > 0:04:10They're all in French, so... Over to you, Rav!
0:04:11 > 0:04:15- I think the most likely is Winston. - Yeah, I think Churchill.- Yeah?
0:04:15 > 0:04:19We are going to go for the first answer, which is Winston Churchill.
0:04:20 > 0:04:23So they think, like you, Winston Churchill.
0:04:23 > 0:04:28- I'm going to go with the panel, with myself, Winston Churchill.- OK.
0:04:28 > 0:04:31Let's see, to get you up and running, for £200...
0:04:31 > 0:04:34Did Winston Churchill win a Nobel Prize for Literature?
0:04:40 > 0:04:42He did!
0:04:42 > 0:04:45PANELLISTS DROWNED OUT BY APPLAUSE
0:04:46 > 0:04:50It's all good. Churchill won the prize in 1953.
0:04:50 > 0:04:52His works include an autobiography
0:04:52 > 0:04:56and a multi-volume work about the First and the Second World Wars.
0:04:56 > 0:05:02- Charles de Gaulle did write war memoirs, no novels.- Four?
0:05:02 > 0:05:07- He wrote nine volumes.- But the latter five were not really...
0:05:07 > 0:05:11- He went off the boil, didn't he? - They were very overrated.
0:05:11 > 0:05:13OK, Loussin, you're off to a flying start,
0:05:13 > 0:05:15that's £200 into the prize pot.
0:05:15 > 0:05:17APPLAUSE
0:05:18 > 0:05:21OK, Loussin, here comes your next question.
0:05:41 > 0:05:44I work in an engineering office, so...
0:05:44 > 0:05:46- This should be a piece of cake! - Yeah.
0:05:46 > 0:05:49- A piece of cake, or a vegetable. - Yes!- They're kind of...
0:05:51 > 0:05:55It's all, like, reminiscent of Arabic structures, actually,
0:05:55 > 0:06:00and that shape is sort of like an onion,
0:06:00 > 0:06:03so I think I'm going to have a ponder on the onion dome.
0:06:03 > 0:06:05OK, have a ponder on the onion.
0:06:05 > 0:06:08Panel, can you bring anything to this? Your debate starts now.
0:06:08 > 0:06:10I would have tossed up between onion and garlic,
0:06:10 > 0:06:13and the reason I'd choose garlic, which might sound a bit odd,
0:06:13 > 0:06:17is if you think of the shape of a clove of garlic,
0:06:17 > 0:06:18it is a bit like that.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20I don't think it's radish or turnip,
0:06:20 > 0:06:23but I'm open to be convinced otherwise.
0:06:23 > 0:06:25I'm inclined to agree with you, I think...
0:06:25 > 0:06:27And Russia likes onions quite a lot.
0:06:27 > 0:06:28That's what I was going to say,
0:06:28 > 0:06:31what is the most obviously linked to Russia?
0:06:31 > 0:06:34- You think of borscht. - Those domes are kind of ribbed,
0:06:34 > 0:06:36aren't they? Am I remembering that?
0:06:36 > 0:06:40So they're that shape and they've got kind of got...segments?
0:06:40 > 0:06:42- Which is a bit more garlicky...- Yeah.
0:06:42 > 0:06:46- ..than onion.- Onion's much more regular round, isn't it?
0:06:46 > 0:06:48I love that about it being in segments.
0:06:48 > 0:06:51I'd be happy to go with garlic for that reason, if everyone is happy.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53- I'd be very happy to go with garlic. - OK.
0:06:53 > 0:06:55Our answer is garlic dome.
0:06:58 > 0:07:00I like the idea of going with garlic,
0:07:00 > 0:07:02but Ann said that they love onions.
0:07:02 > 0:07:05I'm going to go with the panel, because of the segments.
0:07:05 > 0:07:08I'm going to go with the garlic dome.
0:07:08 > 0:07:10- No, I'm going to go with onion. - LAUGHTER
0:07:10 > 0:07:12You're going with onion, Loussin.
0:07:13 > 0:07:15I'm going with garlic.
0:07:16 > 0:07:19I'm going with garlic.
0:07:19 > 0:07:22You believe Saint Basil's Cathedral in Moscow has a garlic dome.
0:07:23 > 0:07:25For £200, the correct answer is...
0:07:32 > 0:07:34AUDIENCE GASPS
0:07:34 > 0:07:36- Oh, Loussin. RICK:- Oh, sorry.
0:07:36 > 0:07:38You should have trusted your gut.
0:07:38 > 0:07:42I should have trusted my gut, every time, I always think this!
0:07:42 > 0:07:46So-called because they are shaped like an onion, there you go.
0:07:46 > 0:07:48They've missed a trick there, should have called it garlic.
0:07:48 > 0:07:50Does look garlicky, doesn't it?
0:07:50 > 0:07:53The one on the left-hand side looks like a Mr Whippy ice cream.
0:07:53 > 0:07:55LAUGHTER
0:07:55 > 0:07:56Nothing for that one, Loussin.
0:07:56 > 0:07:59One more question still to come in this round, here it comes.
0:08:13 > 0:08:16I've a feeling it's Manchester, I feel like Manchester
0:08:16 > 0:08:17had a lot of factories.
0:08:17 > 0:08:20Hold that thought, you're edging towards Manchester.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23Panel, can you help us out here? Your debate starts now.
0:08:23 > 0:08:26The north-west was a huge producer of cotton,
0:08:26 > 0:08:31and when I was fighting Burnley in 1979...
0:08:31 > 0:08:34Was that the seat of Burnley, or you were fighting the city of Burnley?
0:08:34 > 0:08:36No, I wasn't fighting the city.
0:08:36 > 0:08:40The demise of cotton was a very, very big issue, and Manchester,
0:08:40 > 0:08:41of course, is virtually next door.
0:08:41 > 0:08:45So I think that's just got to be Manchester, I can't believe
0:08:45 > 0:08:47that Southampton ever specialised in cotton.
0:08:47 > 0:08:50Southampton's a port, I don't think it's anything to do with cotton.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53- Derby... In football, it's Rams... - It's got to be the north-west.
0:08:53 > 0:08:55I don't know if they're known for that.
0:08:55 > 0:08:57You cannot make cotton from rams. You can't.
0:08:57 > 0:08:59And God knows I've tried!
0:08:59 > 0:09:02You know, very often we're uncertain on this panel,
0:09:02 > 0:09:06but if it ISN'T Manchester, I shall be utterly amazed. Utterly amazed.
0:09:06 > 0:09:07Yeah, I'm with you on that.
0:09:07 > 0:09:10I am too. Our answer is Manchester.
0:09:12 > 0:09:15OK, panel pretty sure on this one, Loussin.
0:09:15 > 0:09:18They are, I trust Ann's knowledge about cotton, politics,
0:09:18 > 0:09:19and it's got to be Manchester.
0:09:19 > 0:09:22OK, you're going with your gut, you're going with the panel.
0:09:22 > 0:09:25For £200, the correct answer is...
0:09:32 > 0:09:34It is Manchester!
0:09:34 > 0:09:35APPLAUSE
0:09:35 > 0:09:38Very well done. Well done, Ann. Well played, panel.
0:09:38 > 0:09:42Manchester was famous as the centre of textile and cotton,
0:09:42 > 0:09:46which was one of Britain's largest exports during the 19th century.
0:09:46 > 0:09:50So, very well done, Loussin. At the end of Round One, you're on £400.
0:09:50 > 0:09:52Yay!
0:09:54 > 0:09:57Let's see how they cope with pictures, it's time for Round Two.
0:09:59 > 0:10:01OK, Loussin, Round Two is our picture round,
0:10:01 > 0:10:04we need you to put three pictures in the correct order.
0:10:04 > 0:10:08£300 for each correct answer, a possible £600 up for grabs.
0:10:08 > 0:10:09So, here comes your first one.
0:10:26 > 0:10:30OK, I know the dodo is definitely going to be either first or second.
0:10:30 > 0:10:34Great auk? I've never heard of that, but it looks...
0:10:34 > 0:10:36I think I'm going to go with the great auk first,
0:10:36 > 0:10:38cos it's got a really short neck,
0:10:38 > 0:10:42and I feel like evolution has gotten rid of birds with short necks
0:10:42 > 0:10:44and little wings.
0:10:44 > 0:10:46- LAUGHING:- It's got really little wings.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49Listen, I-I think we should maybe stop there.
0:10:49 > 0:10:50Yeah?
0:10:53 > 0:10:57I want to hear more about how birds have evolved...
0:10:57 > 0:11:04Easy now. OK, panel, any help on this? Your debate starts now.
0:11:04 > 0:11:07- OK, Ann. - Can I be very unscientific?- Yes.
0:11:07 > 0:11:10- When I was a child, I was very fond of Enid Blyton.- Yep.
0:11:10 > 0:11:14And one of her characters was a very keen ornithologist
0:11:14 > 0:11:18- who claimed to have seen a great auk.- Oh.
0:11:18 > 0:11:21Now, if a great auk had been extinct for centuries,
0:11:21 > 0:11:26it wouldn't have been much of a story, so I suggest therefore
0:11:26 > 0:11:28that the great auk was a fairly recently extinct bird.
0:11:28 > 0:11:29Ooh, I like that.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32But that is totally unscientific, that is just on Enid Blyton.
0:11:32 > 0:11:34OK, well, that's certainly a good starting point.
0:11:34 > 0:11:36Which I was reading in the '50s.
0:11:36 > 0:11:38- Weirdly...- Yeah?- ..I think I'm just going to nail this.
0:11:38 > 0:11:41- OK.- Oh, good.- So the dodo went extinct in the 17th century...
0:11:43 > 0:11:45I'm almost certain.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50Passenger pigeon was in the 20th century,
0:11:50 > 0:11:53and I think the great auk was 19th.
0:11:53 > 0:11:55I'm 100% with you on the dodo,
0:11:55 > 0:11:57because these are from Mauritius,
0:11:57 > 0:11:58where my dad's from.
0:11:58 > 0:11:59Well, let's put the dodo...
0:11:59 > 0:12:01And they were killed in 1600 and something when
0:12:01 > 0:12:03- the Portuguese came over and ate them.- Yep, yep.
0:12:03 > 0:12:05So you're absolutely right with that one.
0:12:05 > 0:12:11- The pigeon, did you think was...? - It was after World War I, wasn't it?
0:12:11 > 0:12:15And the great auk is essentially a massive penguin. What a legend.
0:12:15 > 0:12:18So we have our answers.
0:12:18 > 0:12:23We are going to go dodo, great auk and passenger pigeon.
0:12:25 > 0:12:28Eh, so, Rick taking charge on this, what do you think?
0:12:28 > 0:12:32I'm going to just throw away my reasoning and go with the panel.
0:12:32 > 0:12:35- You're going with the panel. - I'm going with the panel.
0:12:35 > 0:12:38OK, for £300, is that the correct order?
0:12:44 > 0:12:46It IS the correct order!
0:12:50 > 0:12:51Well done, panel.
0:12:51 > 0:12:55The dodo became extinct in the 17th century, Rav, exactly right.
0:12:55 > 0:12:57The great auk was a flightless bird of
0:12:57 > 0:13:00the northern seas that was hunted to extinction
0:13:00 > 0:13:02- in the mid-19th century. - Well done.
0:13:02 > 0:13:06It is alleged the last known pair of birds of the species
0:13:06 > 0:13:08were killed in 1844.
0:13:08 > 0:13:13The passenger pigeon was extinct by 1914, when the last bird,
0:13:13 > 0:13:16called Martha, died at Cincinnati Zoo.
0:13:16 > 0:13:18Aww, poor Martha.
0:13:18 > 0:13:20Well done, panel. Well done, Loussin.
0:13:20 > 0:13:23That's £300 into your prize pot, you're up to £700.
0:13:23 > 0:13:24CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:13:26 > 0:13:28Here comes your second picture question.
0:13:42 > 0:13:45Oh, do I know my Eurovision?
0:13:45 > 0:13:50I'm going to say Dana International, Katrina and the Waves
0:13:50 > 0:13:52and then Lordi. That might change.
0:13:52 > 0:13:54OK, that might change.
0:13:54 > 0:13:57OK, panel, let's plumb your Eurovision knowledge.
0:13:57 > 0:13:59Your debate starts now.
0:13:59 > 0:14:02My European knowledge is limited entirely to Dana,
0:14:02 > 0:14:04but that happened while I was a student,
0:14:04 > 0:14:07so we're talking late '60s, early seventies.
0:14:07 > 0:14:09OK. I was hoping Bucks Fizz would come up,
0:14:09 > 0:14:12cos that's probably the last one I remember!
0:14:12 > 0:14:13And they are none of these options.
0:14:13 > 0:14:17Katrina and the Waves though, I do think was probably la...
0:14:17 > 0:14:20Possibly late '90s, early 2000s, I'm thinking.
0:14:20 > 0:14:24I've got '97 or something like that in my head.
0:14:24 > 0:14:26- Lordi...- And Lordi was quite recent.
0:14:26 > 0:14:29She was certainly while I was a student, we're going back...
0:14:29 > 0:14:32I think we might be thinking of someone else, Ann.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35Oh, she's not the Dana who did All Kinds of Everything?
0:14:35 > 0:14:38- I don't think this Dana...- In that case, I know nothing about it.
0:14:38 > 0:14:40..is the person you're thinking about as a student.
0:14:40 > 0:14:44- Then I know nothing about her. - I think it was sort of 2000s then.
0:14:44 > 0:14:45- UNCERTAIN:- Yeah.
0:14:45 > 0:14:48But then, looking at the picture of Katrina and the Waves,
0:14:48 > 0:14:51I think you're right to go on more the late '90s side.
0:14:51 > 0:14:54- So she would be earliest, so... - So I would do that.
0:14:54 > 0:14:57Katrina, Dana and Lordi's the most recent.
0:14:57 > 0:14:59- Yeah.- We happy? Ann, you happy?
0:14:59 > 0:15:01- Oh, I don't have a view.- OK.
0:15:01 > 0:15:05- And you're convinced there really are two Danas.- I believe so.
0:15:05 > 0:15:07OK, our answers are Katrina and the Waves,
0:15:07 > 0:15:09Dana International and then Lordi.
0:15:11 > 0:15:13I'm going to say Katrina and the Waves is the earliest.
0:15:13 > 0:15:17I've changed my mind. I'm tempted to change Dana and Lordi.
0:15:17 > 0:15:20I don't know why. I'm going to change Dana and Lordi.
0:15:21 > 0:15:24You're going to change Dana and Lordi. Going against the panel.
0:15:24 > 0:15:27You believe Katrina and the Waves first won Eurovision then
0:15:27 > 0:15:32Lordi then Dana International. For £300, is that the correct order?
0:15:41 > 0:15:46Wrong order, Loussin. Let's have a look at the right order.
0:15:46 > 0:15:48The panel had this one correct.
0:15:48 > 0:15:53Katrina and the Waves, then Dana International, then Lordi.
0:15:53 > 0:15:58Katrina and the Waves, the last UK win, back in 1997,
0:15:58 > 0:15:59with Love Shine A Light.
0:15:59 > 0:16:04Transsexual singer Dana International won in 1998
0:16:04 > 0:16:07in Birmingham, representing Israel, with Diva.
0:16:07 > 0:16:09I can't believe I got that so wrong.
0:16:09 > 0:16:12- You can't believe you got that one so wrong.- I only knew one Dana.
0:16:12 > 0:16:18Lordi, representing Finland, won in 2006 with Hard Rock Hallelujah.
0:16:18 > 0:16:21So, you went against the panel there, Loussin. It didn't work out.
0:16:21 > 0:16:25However, at the end of Round Two, you're up to £700.
0:16:25 > 0:16:26APPLAUSE
0:16:29 > 0:16:31How do you think the panel's doing now, Loussin?
0:16:31 > 0:16:35I think they're doing pretty well. I think I'm going to trust them more.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37- You're going to trust them a bit more?- Yeah!
0:16:37 > 0:16:39Especially when it comes to things like Eurovision.
0:16:39 > 0:16:40So, anybody standing out, then,
0:16:40 > 0:16:43anybody you're thinking you might take to the final debate?
0:16:43 > 0:16:46- See, I was keen on Ann. - Not for the modern stuff!
0:16:47 > 0:16:50OK, Loussin, there's still £1,000 up for grabs.
0:16:50 > 0:16:51It's time for Round Three.
0:16:54 > 0:16:58OK, in this round, you will face questions that contain three
0:16:58 > 0:17:00statements about a person, a place or a thing.
0:17:00 > 0:17:03Only one of them is true. Two questions in this round.
0:17:03 > 0:17:04Because it's our final round,
0:17:04 > 0:17:07the money goes up to £500 for each correct answer.
0:17:07 > 0:17:10So, Loussin, have a look at this and tell me what you think.
0:17:31 > 0:17:34Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy definitely won awards. Hugh Laurie...
0:17:34 > 0:17:37Oh, I did watch The Night Manager,
0:17:37 > 0:17:40but I stopped after the first or second episode!
0:17:40 > 0:17:44I'm going to say that Hugh Laurie's character in The Night Manager
0:17:44 > 0:17:46might be female in the book.
0:17:46 > 0:17:50OK. Not sure on this one. Not sure. Can we sort it out, panel?
0:17:50 > 0:17:51Your debate starts now.
0:17:52 > 0:17:55- Have you read any of these books? - Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.
0:17:55 > 0:17:59- Seen the film?- So long ago. But it was huge, and it did win.
0:17:59 > 0:18:04- It won awards.- Any Oscars, though? That is a lot, isn't it?
0:18:04 > 0:18:09- That really is a lot to win.- I think Gary Oldman is an incredible actor.
0:18:09 > 0:18:12I'm not sure he's won an Oscar. And apologies, Gary,
0:18:12 > 0:18:15if you're watching and you have won three Oscars.
0:18:15 > 0:18:18- He's a huge fan of this show. - Yeah, yeah, I bet he is.
0:18:18 > 0:18:21He's cursing the TV at the moment!
0:18:21 > 0:18:25Lupita Nyong'o worked as a runner on the film The Constant Gardener.
0:18:25 > 0:18:29Now, she's an actress that was in... Is it 12 Years A Slave?
0:18:29 > 0:18:32- I believe that was her. - Yeah.- It is plausible.
0:18:32 > 0:18:35I'm not sure if she was living here at the time, though.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37I also think she might be too young.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40The Constant Gardener is early 2000s, isn't it?
0:18:40 > 0:18:42Isn't it, like, 2002?
0:18:42 > 0:18:45See, that is very much earlier than 12 Years A Slave.
0:18:45 > 0:18:48Yeah, I think at least ten years,
0:18:48 > 0:18:53- and I think Lupita Nyong'o is probably in her mid-20s.- Yeah.
0:18:53 > 0:18:57I've not watched The Night Manager and certainly haven't read the book.
0:18:57 > 0:18:59I've watched The Night Manager, but that's
0:18:59 > 0:19:02- no use if you haven't read the book.- No.
0:19:02 > 0:19:06Was Hugh Laurie's character in the programme called Jenny
0:19:06 > 0:19:08- or something like that? - LAUGHTER
0:19:08 > 0:19:12OK. I think we're in agreement on the bottom one, and Lupita Nyong'o,
0:19:12 > 0:19:15I think she would have been too young,
0:19:15 > 0:19:18which leaves us with Hugh Laurie's character possibly being
0:19:18 > 0:19:22a female, and we are going to say Hugh Laurie's character was
0:19:22 > 0:19:23a female in the book.
0:19:26 > 0:19:28OK, so our panel not quite sure on this,
0:19:28 > 0:19:31but by a process of elimination they are going for A.
0:19:31 > 0:19:33They believe Hugh Laurie's character in The Night Manager was
0:19:33 > 0:19:35originally female in the bok.
0:19:35 > 0:19:38I just feel like surely feminists would have been in uproar
0:19:38 > 0:19:41about Hugh Laurie's character being female changed to male.
0:19:41 > 0:19:46But then, the main female character was quite strong. Erm...
0:19:46 > 0:19:49I'm going to go with statement A, only because I feel like the
0:19:49 > 0:19:52panel know more about the other two actors than I do.
0:19:52 > 0:19:56OK, you're going for A. You're agreeing with the panel.
0:19:56 > 0:19:58You think Hugh Laurie's character in The Night Manager
0:19:58 > 0:20:00is female in the book.
0:20:00 > 0:20:04For £500, the correct statement is...
0:20:13 > 0:20:19..Lupita Nyong'o worked as a runner on the film The Constant Gardener.
0:20:19 > 0:20:21It was great logic you were working out.
0:20:21 > 0:20:24You thought that if Hugh Laurie's character had've been changed,
0:20:24 > 0:20:27I mean, there would have been a bit more of a hoo-hah about it.
0:20:27 > 0:20:31The character Richard Roper, played by Hugh Laurie, is male in both the
0:20:31 > 0:20:33novel and the television adaptation,
0:20:33 > 0:20:38although Olivia Coleman's character, Angela Burr, was a man in the book.
0:20:39 > 0:20:42Oldman was nominated for his first Oscar for his performance in
0:20:42 > 0:20:44Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, and you're right,
0:20:44 > 0:20:46he hasn't won an Oscar to date.
0:20:46 > 0:20:51The Constant Gardener was shot in 2005, when Lupita Nyong'o was 22.
0:20:51 > 0:20:57- Oh!- So just in case any union people think that underage runners would
0:20:57 > 0:20:59have been employed on that movie.
0:20:59 > 0:21:02I'm afraid no money there, but there's still £500 up for
0:21:02 > 0:21:06grabs in your final question in this round. Here it comes.
0:21:21 > 0:21:23I've never heard that he was suspected of stealing the Mona Lisa.
0:21:23 > 0:21:26The panel can correct me. I feel like it could be C.
0:21:26 > 0:21:30OK, you feel like it could be C. Panel, any help on this?
0:21:30 > 0:21:31Your debate starts now.
0:21:31 > 0:21:36I veer towards C, as well, towards the fact that he was over 30.
0:21:36 > 0:21:37It's the time of his first exhibition,
0:21:37 > 0:21:41not the first painting he ever did or sold or anything.
0:21:41 > 0:21:42His first exhibition.
0:21:42 > 0:21:44I don't know about the other two, but I can't believe we
0:21:44 > 0:21:47wouldn't all know if he was suspected of stealing the Mona Lisa.
0:21:47 > 0:21:50The Mona Lisa's pretty big potatoes to be suspected of stealing.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53I think we'd know, because it must have been a huge thing at the time.
0:21:53 > 0:21:54We'd know, surely.
0:21:54 > 0:21:57And we'll all know, because it would be in the mythology around him.
0:21:57 > 0:22:00I think so, and someone would have made a film about it.
0:22:00 > 0:22:04I've seen a lot of his... At the risk of bragging, I've seen quite
0:22:04 > 0:22:05a bit of his early work, guys!
0:22:07 > 0:22:12- Good. Use your knowledge. Do you know when Cezanne was painting?- No.
0:22:12 > 0:22:14We could work it out if we knew more about Cezanne,
0:22:14 > 0:22:16and then we could work out if he was likely to have been a mentor.
0:22:16 > 0:22:19If anything, I'd say it was probably the other way round.
0:22:19 > 0:22:22- I think Cezanne would have... - I had a feeling.- Yeah.
0:22:22 > 0:22:25So, yes, I think the first exhibition.
0:22:25 > 0:22:29Yeah, OK, we're going to say Pablo Picasso was over 30 years old
0:22:29 > 0:22:31at the time of his first exhibition.
0:22:32 > 0:22:35OK, Loussin, they think he was over 30.
0:22:35 > 0:22:38I know that he mentored a lot of young artists.
0:22:38 > 0:22:40It's going to really annoy me,
0:22:40 > 0:22:42because it's actually one that I'm quite good at.
0:22:43 > 0:22:45But I'm not good at onion architecture.
0:22:47 > 0:22:50I'm going to... I'm going to go with C.
0:22:50 > 0:22:56OK, you're going with C. For £500, the correct answer is...
0:23:03 > 0:23:08- ..he was suspected of stealing the Mona Lisa!- Who would have thought?
0:23:08 > 0:23:11- Who would have thought? - None of us!
0:23:11 > 0:23:14When the Mona Lisa was stolen from the Louvre in 1911,
0:23:14 > 0:23:18Picasso was one of several suspects. No evidence could be found.
0:23:18 > 0:23:21Two years later, the true culprit was discovered,
0:23:21 > 0:23:24an Italian petty criminal called Vincenzo Peruggia.
0:23:24 > 0:23:27He actually believed that the work belonged to Italy,
0:23:27 > 0:23:29but it was actually commissioned by a French king,
0:23:29 > 0:23:32even though it was painted by Leonardo.
0:23:32 > 0:23:34Pablo Picasso was born 42 years after Cezanne.
0:23:34 > 0:23:38Picasso said of him that he was "my one and only master".
0:23:38 > 0:23:42Picasso was a precocious artist and had an exhibition of his
0:23:42 > 0:23:44early works in Paris when he was 19.
0:23:44 > 0:23:46- You were right about Cezanne. - Yeah...
0:23:46 > 0:23:48The panel couldn't get there,
0:23:48 > 0:23:50I'm afraid you couldn't work it out either, Loussin.
0:23:50 > 0:23:53It means at the end of Round Three, you're on £700.
0:23:53 > 0:23:54APPLAUSE
0:23:56 > 0:24:00So, £700, a tidy little sum. Any plans for the cash?
0:24:00 > 0:24:04I can definitely put it towards my trip to India and the yoga
0:24:04 > 0:24:07- retreat that I'm going to do. - OK.
0:24:07 > 0:24:09There is only one question between you and that money.
0:24:09 > 0:24:11It is of course today's final debate.
0:24:11 > 0:24:15In the final debate, it's one question, six possible answers.
0:24:15 > 0:24:18We need three of those answers to be correct.
0:24:18 > 0:24:22OK, Loussin, who would you like to join you in the final debate?
0:24:22 > 0:24:25Will your chances be as dead as a dodo with Rick, will you go with
0:24:25 > 0:24:29the Crimewatch host that didn't know Picasso was a suspect, Rav,
0:24:29 > 0:24:34or will you unpeel the intellectual onion that is Ann?
0:24:34 > 0:24:36I'm not an onion!
0:24:37 > 0:24:41I mean, there are so many layers of knowledge there. But...
0:24:41 > 0:24:43- LOUSSIN LAUGHS - ..I'm going to go with Rick,
0:24:43 > 0:24:46because I feel like we've also got the same pattern of reasoning.
0:24:46 > 0:24:48Not sure that's a good thing, by the way!
0:24:48 > 0:24:51OK, Rick, can you please join us for the final debate?
0:24:51 > 0:24:53APPLAUSE
0:24:56 > 0:25:00OK, Rick, Loussin has chosen you for the final debate because she
0:25:00 > 0:25:03- believes that you guys think alike. - We have a certain synergy.
0:25:03 > 0:25:07We've not done especially well with it, but we do have it.
0:25:07 > 0:25:10It is the final debate, Loussin, so we do give you two to choose from.
0:25:10 > 0:25:14Have a look at these categories and tell me what you guys fancy.
0:25:19 > 0:25:21I'm going to say I read a lot of books when I was a child.
0:25:21 > 0:25:25International football is just something I know nothing about.
0:25:25 > 0:25:27Rick, how do you feel about this?
0:25:27 > 0:25:32I mean, listen, if it was me I'd probably go with football,
0:25:32 > 0:25:36- but how hard can it be, right? - Yeah! Jacqueline Wilson...- Who?
0:25:36 > 0:25:40- OK, let's go.- Yeah, OK, let's do it. Children's literature.
0:25:40 > 0:25:43OK, here we go, you're going for children's literature.
0:25:43 > 0:25:45We're going to put 45 seconds on the clock.
0:25:45 > 0:25:48For £700, Loussin. We wish you all the best.
0:25:48 > 0:25:50Here's your final debate question.
0:26:08 > 0:26:11Your final debate starts now.
0:26:11 > 0:26:15- OK, obviously it's a shame that Ann isn't up here.- Yeah!
0:26:15 > 0:26:20- But the ones that I know are Anne and Julian.- Anne and Julian.
0:26:20 > 0:26:25And then it's... I mean, I just...
0:26:25 > 0:26:29I'm guessing that... Did they have a dog called Timmy?
0:26:29 > 0:26:30Something like that.
0:26:30 > 0:26:33- Would it be part of the Famous Five? - That's a good point, actually.
0:26:33 > 0:26:36They are unlikely to have the dog as part of the gang, aren't they?
0:26:36 > 0:26:38So Anne, Julian...
0:26:38 > 0:26:42- And I don't think there was a Sally. - I think it's Anne, Julian and Peter.
0:26:42 > 0:26:44- Yeah? - Yeah.
0:26:45 > 0:26:50- Yeah.- Ten seconds.- So, well, Anne and Julian I'm almost certain on.
0:26:51 > 0:26:54- Scamper doesn't feel like a person. - Scamper's not a person.
0:26:54 > 0:26:55Scamper's a dog.
0:26:56 > 0:26:58I need three answers.
0:26:58 > 0:27:01I'm going to give you Anne, Julian and Peter.
0:27:01 > 0:27:03OK, Loussin, here we go. You know how it works.
0:27:03 > 0:27:05We need all three of these answers to be correct
0:27:05 > 0:27:10to leave with the money. The first answer you gave me was Anne.
0:27:10 > 0:27:12Was Anne part of the Famous Five?
0:27:17 > 0:27:20APPLAUSE She was!
0:27:20 > 0:27:24You're up and running. The next name you gave me was Julian.
0:27:24 > 0:27:28If Julian was one of the Famous Five, you're still in the game.
0:27:28 > 0:27:32For £700, was Julian in the Famous Five?
0:27:39 > 0:27:41APPLAUSE He was!
0:27:44 > 0:27:46And so it all comes down to this.
0:27:46 > 0:27:50If Peter's correct, you leave with £700.
0:27:50 > 0:27:53If it's wrong, I'm afraid you do leave with nothing.
0:27:53 > 0:27:56Was Peter a part of the Famous Five?
0:28:05 > 0:28:09He wasn't, Loussin. I am so, so sorry.
0:28:09 > 0:28:13Let's have a look at the correct answer.
0:28:13 > 0:28:17Julian, Dick and Anne, George and Timmy the dog, as the song went.
0:28:17 > 0:28:21- Timmy was the dog! - Timmy was the dog.- Oh, no!
0:28:21 > 0:28:24I am so, so sorry. Give it up one more time for Loussin!
0:28:24 > 0:28:26APPLAUSE
0:28:26 > 0:28:30- You were so close! - I know!
0:28:30 > 0:28:32That is it for Debatable.
0:28:32 > 0:28:34There's just time for me to thank our fantastic panel,
0:28:34 > 0:28:36to Rick Edwards, to Rav Wilding and Ann Widdecombe.
0:28:36 > 0:28:38APPLAUSE
0:28:38 > 0:28:41I hope you've enjoyed watching. We'll see you next time for more
0:28:41 > 0:28:43heated debates. For now, it's goodbye.