Episode 7

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0:00:09 > 0:00:11APPLAUSE

0:00:11 > 0:00:14Hello and welcome to Debatable, where today,

0:00:14 > 0:00:17one player must answer a series of tricky questions to try to

0:00:17 > 0:00:20walk away with a jackpot of over £2,000.

0:00:20 > 0:00:23But, as always, they are not on their own, they will have

0:00:23 > 0:00:26a panel of famous faces debating their way to the answers.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28Will they be able to talk the talk?

0:00:28 > 0:00:31Well, as always, that's debatable, so let's meet them.

0:00:32 > 0:00:36Talking the talk today, we have actress Sally Lindsay.

0:00:36 > 0:00:38We have comedian Ed Byrne,

0:00:38 > 0:00:41and broadcaster and journalist Angela Rippon.

0:00:41 > 0:00:43APPLAUSE

0:00:46 > 0:00:47It's a well balanced panel, Ed.

0:00:47 > 0:00:50I'm sensing you've got the authority there in the middle.

0:00:50 > 0:00:52Does this give me authority, being in the middle?

0:00:52 > 0:00:54I kind of think it does.

0:00:54 > 0:00:57I was not aware that this seat came with such responsibility.

0:00:57 > 0:01:01- So, are you happy with your fellow panellists?- Oh, deliriously.

0:01:01 > 0:01:03Yes, who wouldn't be?

0:01:03 > 0:01:04I think we've got a range of talents

0:01:04 > 0:01:07and a range of interests displayed in front of you here.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10What would those range of talents and interests be, Sally?

0:01:10 > 0:01:14Well, I quite like the arts questions, I don't like maths.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17And sport I'm dreadful at, so I'm really scared of sport, but...

0:01:17 > 0:01:20- Anybody good at sport? - We're not good...- Angela's not bad.

0:01:20 > 0:01:21Angela's an all-rounder.

0:01:21 > 0:01:26Angela has got a big brain and she shares it with us. You do.

0:01:26 > 0:01:29Well, not if you ask me questions on pop music.

0:01:29 > 0:01:32- If they don't play it on Radio 4, I don't know it. - LAUGHTER

0:01:32 > 0:01:34OK, that is our panel, let's meet today's contestant.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36It is Claire from York.

0:01:36 > 0:01:38APPLAUSE

0:01:39 > 0:01:41- How are you doing?- Hi. - Welcome to the show.

0:01:41 > 0:01:45- Tell us a little bit about yourself. - I work as a housing officer.

0:01:45 > 0:01:47- What does a housing officer mean? - Every day is different.

0:01:47 > 0:01:51So I manage council tenancies, so I look after the tenants,

0:01:51 > 0:01:54make sure that they're managing their tenancies well.

0:01:54 > 0:01:59- Sometimes I have to be the bad cop. - So, give me your good cop face.

0:02:00 > 0:02:02And give me your bad cop face.

0:02:02 > 0:02:04I see what you've done there.

0:02:04 > 0:02:06What do you think of today's panel?

0:02:08 > 0:02:10Bearing in mind we're sitting right here.

0:02:10 > 0:02:14- I think they are going to help me a lot.- We'll do our best.

0:02:14 > 0:02:16You will have to choose one of them to play the Final Debate

0:02:16 > 0:02:20- at the end of the show. All right, ready to play?- Yes.

0:02:20 > 0:02:22OK, Claire, here we go, let's play Round One.

0:02:25 > 0:02:28Round One is multiple-choice, you have four possible answers,

0:02:28 > 0:02:30we need you to find the correct one.

0:02:30 > 0:02:32There are three questions in this round,

0:02:32 > 0:02:37£200 for each correct answer, a possible £600.

0:02:37 > 0:02:38OK, here we go.

0:03:00 > 0:03:03- There's only two of them that I've heard of.- And that is?

0:03:03 > 0:03:06The Chuckle Brothers and the Chemical Brothers.

0:03:06 > 0:03:08I have honestly no idea.

0:03:08 > 0:03:11Don't worry, I'm sure the panel will be able to sort this out for you.

0:03:11 > 0:03:15- Panel, your debate starts now.- Who do we know are actual brothers?

0:03:15 > 0:03:20- Well, the Chuckle Brothers. If they are not...- The Marx Brothers.

0:03:20 > 0:03:24- And so are the Everlys. - Are the Everly Brothers definitely?

0:03:24 > 0:03:27I'm pretty sure. You're the music people, I'm pretty sure they are.

0:03:27 > 0:03:29- I'm not 100%.- I wasn't 100% the Marx Brothers were brothers.

0:03:29 > 0:03:32- Yes, two of them are. - Two of them are, all right, fine.

0:03:32 > 0:03:34So, the Marx Brothers, the Chuckle Brothers definitely.

0:03:34 > 0:03:38Else those moustaches are uncanny if they're not brothers.

0:03:38 > 0:03:40And the Everly Brothers,

0:03:40 > 0:03:42so it's between the Everly Brothers and the Chemical Brothers.

0:03:42 > 0:03:44I don't know anything about the Chemical Brothers.

0:03:44 > 0:03:46But I'm sure the Everly Brothers...

0:03:46 > 0:03:49- It was quite a thing back in the - '60s. I think they were brothers.

0:03:49 > 0:03:52- You're not sure, are you? - I'm going...

0:03:52 > 0:03:55I know who the Chemical Brothers are, but I don't know whether

0:03:55 > 0:03:57- they're brothers or not. - What do they look like?

0:03:57 > 0:03:59They don't really look... They're not even in

0:03:59 > 0:04:02their videos, they're like instrumental, they're dance music.

0:04:02 > 0:04:05- Oh.- So you don't really... It's all samples and the like.

0:04:05 > 0:04:08Then again, my twins look like they are from different families, so...

0:04:08 > 0:04:09They probably just call themselves that.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12Because there's certainly no way their surname is Chemical.

0:04:12 > 0:04:14LAUGHTER

0:04:14 > 0:04:17- So they started...- They're known as the Chuckles, are they?- Yeah.

0:04:17 > 0:04:19THEY LAUGH

0:04:19 > 0:04:20What do you think?

0:04:20 > 0:04:24OK, having had much debate, I think we've decided

0:04:24 > 0:04:26that the Chemical Brothers do not contain actual siblings.

0:04:28 > 0:04:33Our panel has leaned forward in a credible, convincing manner.

0:04:33 > 0:04:34Anything in there, Claire, to help?

0:04:34 > 0:04:37I know that the Chuckle Brothers are brothers.

0:04:37 > 0:04:40I've never heard of the Everly Brothers, or the Marx Brothers.

0:04:40 > 0:04:41So I think Chemical Brothers.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44Based on our panel knowledge, you're going to go with the panel?

0:04:44 > 0:04:45Yes, I'm going with the panel.

0:04:45 > 0:04:48OK, you're going with the panel, you're saying Chemical Brothers.

0:04:48 > 0:04:51To get us up and running, for £200, the correct answer is?

0:04:56 > 0:04:59Chemical Brothers is the correct answer, well done.

0:04:59 > 0:05:01APPLAUSE

0:05:02 > 0:05:03Relief all round.

0:05:03 > 0:05:07The Chemical Brothers, AKA Ed Simons and Tom Rowlands,

0:05:07 > 0:05:10both studied at Manchester University.

0:05:10 > 0:05:13Well played, you're off to a flying start, £200 in the prize pot.

0:05:13 > 0:05:15APPLAUSE

0:05:17 > 0:05:21OK. Here's question two, let's see if you can keep it going.

0:05:39 > 0:05:42Anything ringing any bells up there, anything you can rule out?

0:05:42 > 0:05:48I have an inkling, and my gut is heading towards Manhattan.

0:05:48 > 0:05:52OK, you're thinking Manhattan. You're not quite sure.

0:05:52 > 0:05:54Our well travelled panel, let's see if we can sort this out.

0:05:54 > 0:05:56Your debate starts now.

0:05:56 > 0:05:58Well, Manhattan is on the island, isn't it?

0:05:58 > 0:06:00Manhattan is the main bit that takes the whole island.

0:06:00 > 0:06:04And it's probably some of the most expensive real estate

0:06:04 > 0:06:07- in America.- So is that where Central Park is?- Central Park is there.

0:06:07 > 0:06:09Now I've been to that zoo, and it's tiny.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12I don't think that's the largest zoo, then.

0:06:12 > 0:06:15- Queens is on the other side.- Yeah.

0:06:15 > 0:06:17Brooklyn is... Where...

0:06:17 > 0:06:21I've got a feeling it's the Bronx. I don't know why.

0:06:21 > 0:06:26Because the Yankee Stadium, it will take a big amount of land, isn't it?

0:06:26 > 0:06:31- Are you just going for, you reckon the Bronx...?- The biggest part.

0:06:31 > 0:06:35- Brooklyn's pretty big.- Queens... Oh, dear. I don't know.

0:06:35 > 0:06:39- Have you been to New York?- I have. Many times.- So have I.

0:06:39 > 0:06:43- And yet I have not visited either Yankee Stadium or...- The zoo.

0:06:43 > 0:06:46- ..the largest zoo. I've been to Central Park Zoo.- Same here.

0:06:46 > 0:06:48I don't think it's Queens,

0:06:48 > 0:06:50because I think Queens is very much residential.

0:06:50 > 0:06:52Are we going to go Bronx or Brooklyn, then?

0:06:52 > 0:06:55- It's the Bronx or Brooklyn.- Which should we say? You reckon the Bronx?

0:06:55 > 0:06:59I think it might be the Bronx, but I wouldn't say for certain.

0:06:59 > 0:07:01Only because I think the Bronx is where an awful lot

0:07:01 > 0:07:05of the immigrants settled when they first went to America.

0:07:05 > 0:07:08- I think we'll go with the Bronx, will we?- Will we?- Let's.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11After much deliberation,

0:07:11 > 0:07:13we have decided that the answer is the Bronx.

0:07:15 > 0:07:18- They've gone for the Bronx, Claire. - Oh, dear.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20I'm still none the wiser.

0:07:20 > 0:07:24- I think I'm going to go with the panel.- And you're going for?

0:07:24 > 0:07:25The Bronx.

0:07:27 > 0:07:31OK. Going for the Bronx.

0:07:31 > 0:07:32For £200, is that the correct answer?

0:07:38 > 0:07:41It is, well done. Well played.

0:07:41 > 0:07:42APPLAUSE

0:07:44 > 0:07:47Good knowledge, panel. Well played, Claire.

0:07:47 > 0:07:49£200 into the prize pot, you're up to £400.

0:07:49 > 0:07:51APPLAUSE

0:07:53 > 0:07:55Here comes your third question.

0:07:55 > 0:07:57Let's see if we can make it a clean sweep in Round One.

0:08:17 > 0:08:19I'm not really good at Greek mythology.

0:08:21 > 0:08:24I think I'm swaying towards Heracles.

0:08:24 > 0:08:27OK, you think it may be Heracles.

0:08:27 > 0:08:30Panel, can you shed some light on this? Your debate starts now.

0:08:30 > 0:08:33- Well, we know it's not Achilles. - No.- It's definitely not Achilles.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36- The giant with the heel.- No, he was the little one with the heel.

0:08:36 > 0:08:39Oh, he went for the giant. He fought the giant with the heel.

0:08:39 > 0:08:41Achilles is the one who got the arrow in the heel

0:08:41 > 0:08:46when they were trying to get...what's her face out of...

0:08:46 > 0:08:47Anyhow, it was him.

0:08:47 > 0:08:51- For me, it's between Theseus and Odysseus.- Odysseus had a ship.

0:08:51 > 0:08:56- Yes, but he did a lot of quests. - It's the Odyssey, isn't it?

0:08:56 > 0:08:58- It is the Odyssey, yeah. It is the Odyssey.- It's the Odyssey.

0:08:58 > 0:09:01I don't think it's Heracles, I would have remembered that.

0:09:01 > 0:09:05- So it's Theseus or Odysseus. - Should we go for Odysseus, then?

0:09:06 > 0:09:09- OK.- Yeah?- OK.

0:09:09 > 0:09:14Right, we reckon that Odysseus slayed the Minotaur.

0:09:16 > 0:09:19OK. Angela bringing in a little bit of knowledge there.

0:09:19 > 0:09:21The panel are going for Odysseus.

0:09:25 > 0:09:28Odysseus, to me, reminds me of sea.

0:09:29 > 0:09:34But a Minotaur is on the land, I think.

0:09:34 > 0:09:38- I think I'm going to go against the panel...- Good girl.

0:09:38 > 0:09:41..and go for Theseus.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44OK, you're going against the panel.

0:09:46 > 0:09:50You say Theseus slayed the Minotaur.

0:09:50 > 0:09:52First time you've gone against the panel.

0:09:52 > 0:09:54For £200, the correct answer is?

0:10:00 > 0:10:03It was Theseus. APPLAUSE

0:10:03 > 0:10:05- Well done.- Well done there, Claire.

0:10:05 > 0:10:07The Minotaur lived in his Labyrinth,

0:10:07 > 0:10:09which is supposed to be on the island of Crete.

0:10:09 > 0:10:13Athenian hero Theseus navigated the Labyrinth and killed the monster.

0:10:13 > 0:10:15OK, Claire, you went against the panel.

0:10:15 > 0:10:17You get another £200 into your prize pot,

0:10:17 > 0:10:20bringing you up to £600 at the end of Round One.

0:10:20 > 0:10:23APPLAUSE

0:10:23 > 0:10:24Well done.

0:10:24 > 0:10:27OK, let's see how they do on pictures, it is time for Round Two.

0:10:30 > 0:10:31In this round, Claire,

0:10:31 > 0:10:34you must place three pictures in the correct order.

0:10:34 > 0:10:35There are two questions in this round,

0:10:35 > 0:10:38£300 up for grabs for each correct answer.

0:10:38 > 0:10:41A possible 600. Here comes your first one.

0:11:01 > 0:11:03- Any first thought? - There's one I've never heard of.

0:11:03 > 0:11:07- So I'm guessing he's only run a short time.- OK.

0:11:07 > 0:11:09Based on the fact you haven't heard of him. Who's that?

0:11:09 > 0:11:11- Kenneth Clarke.- OK.

0:11:11 > 0:11:14I'm sure our political animals can sort this out for you.

0:11:14 > 0:11:18- Panel, your debate starts now. - OK, so obviously...

0:11:18 > 0:11:20Gordon Brown, I think, was the longest.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23He was Chancellor all the time that Tony Blair was Prime Minister.

0:11:23 > 0:11:26- Apart from the last nanosecond. - The last nanosecond.

0:11:26 > 0:11:28So he's down at this end.

0:11:28 > 0:11:33George Osborne has only been there for a little while. But...

0:11:33 > 0:11:34Well, he was the whole of the coalition.

0:11:34 > 0:11:38- The whole of the coalition. And part of the next lot.- So, six years.

0:11:38 > 0:11:39- Kenneth... - How long was Kenneth Clarke?

0:11:39 > 0:11:44Kenneth Clarke, I'm trying to remember. Kenneth Clarke...

0:11:44 > 0:11:46- Was he under Thatcher?- Yes, he was.

0:11:46 > 0:11:50He looks more at home with the briefcase than George Osborne.

0:11:50 > 0:11:52He looks more used to it.

0:11:52 > 0:11:55He's probably held it up quite a few times. "Here it is again."

0:11:55 > 0:11:58Whereas he's holding it like, "What is this?"

0:11:58 > 0:12:00LAUGHTER

0:12:00 > 0:12:04- He always just looks like that. - Generally the result, wasn't it?

0:12:04 > 0:12:06I'm really confused about these two.

0:12:06 > 0:12:09Because Osborne was definitely there for the whole of the last...

0:12:09 > 0:12:14- So, that might be...- And I'm not sure...- Six years is a long time.

0:12:14 > 0:12:17I'm not sure Kenneth Clarke was.

0:12:17 > 0:12:19- Do we want to swap them back? - She did like a shuffle, didn't she?

0:12:19 > 0:12:25- She was moving them around quite a bit.- What should we go for, Angela?

0:12:25 > 0:12:27- I think they're the other way round.- Righto.

0:12:27 > 0:12:29- I think you're right.- I think.

0:12:29 > 0:12:30Because I don't think he was,

0:12:30 > 0:12:33I don't think he was Chancellor all the time she was Prime Minister.

0:12:33 > 0:12:36- Was he Foreign Secretary? - He was Foreign Secretary...

0:12:36 > 0:12:38I think we're right. Yeah.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41I'm going to go with what the ladies are telling me,

0:12:41 > 0:12:43which is that the shortest was Ken Clarke,

0:12:43 > 0:12:46then George Osborne, and then Gordon Brown.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49So, Claire, the panel have had their own reshuffle.

0:12:49 > 0:12:50LAUGHTER

0:12:50 > 0:12:52I was edging more towards that.

0:12:52 > 0:12:54Still Kenneth Clarke being right at the beginning,

0:12:54 > 0:12:56because I've never heard of him.

0:12:56 > 0:12:58I know that Gordon Brown was there for a long time

0:12:58 > 0:13:03and George Osborne is really recent. Yes, I'm going to go with the panel.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06Kenneth, George, Gordon.

0:13:06 > 0:13:08I like it. From not knowing who Kenneth Clarke is, you are now

0:13:08 > 0:13:15- on first name terms, you're going for Kenneth, George and Gordon.- Yes.

0:13:15 > 0:13:17Is that the correct order, for £300?

0:13:24 > 0:13:27Well played. Very well done. APPLAUSE

0:13:27 > 0:13:30Well played, panel. Well done, Claire.

0:13:30 > 0:13:34Ken Clarke was Chancellor for four years, from '93 to '97.

0:13:34 > 0:13:38George Osborne, six years, 2010 to 2016.

0:13:38 > 0:13:40Gordon Brown for ten years.

0:13:40 > 0:13:43Very well played, Claire, another £300 into the prize pot,

0:13:43 > 0:13:44you're up to £900.

0:13:44 > 0:13:47APPLAUSE

0:13:47 > 0:13:49Let's have a look at your second picture question,

0:13:49 > 0:13:52let's see if we can get some more cash up.

0:14:08 > 0:14:13- I think I know.- You think you know the order?- Yeah.- OK.

0:14:13 > 0:14:15Let's see if our panel also know the order.

0:14:15 > 0:14:17Panel, your debate starts now.

0:14:17 > 0:14:21- I'm pretty sure Saving Private Ryan came first.- Yes.

0:14:21 > 0:14:23- So let's shove that. - Catch Me If You Can...

0:14:23 > 0:14:27Wasn't that the film about the guy who was the embezzler?

0:14:27 > 0:14:30- Who was constantly on the run?- Yes. - It was Leonardo DiCaprio, wasn't it?

0:14:30 > 0:14:32That was Leonardo DiCaprio.

0:14:32 > 0:14:35- Whereas this one, he's basically in it on his own.- Yes.

0:14:35 > 0:14:37Now, I can't decide which one.

0:14:37 > 0:14:41I have half a mind Cast Away came after Catch Me If You Can.

0:14:41 > 0:14:42I think so, too.

0:14:42 > 0:14:45I remember thinking it was interesting he did that one

0:14:45 > 0:14:48after that one, and it was quite lightweight in comparison.

0:14:48 > 0:14:50- But that was just... - So when did he do Cast Away?

0:14:50 > 0:14:54- Cast Away was, I thought, more recent.- OK.

0:14:54 > 0:14:58So you think Saving Private Ryan, Catch Me If You Can, then Cast Away?

0:14:58 > 0:15:04- And the trouble is, he doesn't age, does he?- He looks the same now.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07He looks quite old there, but you would if you'd been

0:15:07 > 0:15:10- on a desert island, wouldn't you, for a while?- Yes. It's a tricky one.

0:15:10 > 0:15:12It's a tug between these two, isn't it?

0:15:13 > 0:15:18- He was a...- He was an FBI agent. - An FBI agent, that's right.

0:15:18 > 0:15:21Trying to catch DiCaprio. So...

0:15:21 > 0:15:24- And I think that's the order.- Yeah?

0:15:24 > 0:15:26- You think that's it?- Yeah.

0:15:26 > 0:15:29We already know that Claire is quite happy to reject our idea.

0:15:29 > 0:15:31And quite right to do so.

0:15:31 > 0:15:34And I don't blame her. But after having debated it,

0:15:34 > 0:15:37having kicked it around for a while, we've decided that the order

0:15:37 > 0:15:41was Saving Private Ryan came first, then Catch Me If You Can,

0:15:41 > 0:15:42and then Cast Away.

0:15:44 > 0:15:46That's the thought of the panel, Claire.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49- You said you thought you knew this. - I still think I do.

0:15:50 > 0:15:54I think Saving Private Ryan was first.

0:15:55 > 0:15:57Then Cast Away.

0:15:57 > 0:16:00Because I do remember watching those films.

0:16:00 > 0:16:05And Catch Me If You Can, I think that is the newest film.

0:16:07 > 0:16:09So I'm going to go against the panel,

0:16:09 > 0:16:12and I'm going to do Saving Private Ryan,

0:16:12 > 0:16:13Cast Away, and Catch Me If You Can.

0:16:15 > 0:16:18OK, you're going against the advice of the panel.

0:16:18 > 0:16:21£300, is that the correct order?

0:16:28 > 0:16:29It is, well done!

0:16:29 > 0:16:31APPLAUSE

0:16:31 > 0:16:34Very well played, Claire. Very well played.

0:16:34 > 0:16:39Saving Private Ryan was released in 1998, Cast Away in 2000,

0:16:39 > 0:16:43Catch Me If You Can in 2002. Very well done, Claire.

0:16:43 > 0:16:46It means at the end of Round Two, the prize pot stands at £1,200.

0:16:46 > 0:16:48APPLAUSE

0:16:50 > 0:16:52All right. Let's play Round Three.

0:16:55 > 0:16:58OK, Claire, in Round Three, you will face questions that contain

0:16:58 > 0:17:00a statement about a person, a place or a thing.

0:17:00 > 0:17:01Only one of them is true.

0:17:01 > 0:17:05Because it's our final round, £500 for each correct answer,

0:17:05 > 0:17:07a possible £1,000 up for grabs.

0:17:07 > 0:17:09Here's your first question.

0:17:32 > 0:17:36Is it the right time to say that I'm clueless?

0:17:36 > 0:17:38It's a perfect time to say you're clueless.

0:17:38 > 0:17:42Because I'm sure our panel will employ their historical expertise

0:17:42 > 0:17:44to quickly sort this out for you, Claire.

0:17:44 > 0:17:48- Panel, your debate starts now. - Perhaps we can help you.- I think...

0:17:48 > 0:17:50We can rule out the first one.

0:17:50 > 0:17:53Yeah, it's common knowledge that it did not last 100 years.

0:17:53 > 0:17:57And also, the Battle of Agincourt famously is an English victory.

0:17:57 > 0:18:00Henry V, the longbowmen at Agincourt,

0:18:00 > 0:18:02beat the French. Absolutely.

0:18:02 > 0:18:05On October 25th, or something like that.

0:18:05 > 0:18:07You said... You were almost offended that there was a suggestion...

0:18:07 > 0:18:10- That the French had won.- ..that the French had won. You were like,

0:18:10 > 0:18:14"How dare you? I have never been so insulted in all my life!"

0:18:14 > 0:18:17- The Rippon's not happy.- The Rippon is not happy with that, no.

0:18:17 > 0:18:19The Rippon is ripping. LAUGHTER

0:18:19 > 0:18:22- But Joan of Arc definitely did fight in that conflict.- Definitely did.

0:18:22 > 0:18:25Because she was trying to get the French king back on the throne

0:18:25 > 0:18:27when they were fighting the English

0:18:27 > 0:18:29and it was the English who burnt her at the stake.

0:18:29 > 0:18:32Maybe she should have fought harder and than the Battle of Agincourt

0:18:32 > 0:18:35- might have gone the French way.- No way, come on! English bowmen, no.

0:18:35 > 0:18:39- Where do you think we got the V-sign from?- Yes, this is true.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42- Because if the French captured... - That's specifically from Agincourt?

0:18:42 > 0:18:43Specifically from Agincourt,

0:18:43 > 0:18:46because if the French captured English bowmen

0:18:46 > 0:18:48during the Hundred Years War,

0:18:48 > 0:18:49they would cut their fingers here,

0:18:49 > 0:18:52because these were the fingers that held the bow,

0:18:52 > 0:18:54so they would take those fingers away.

0:18:54 > 0:18:57So we think it's got to be... Joan of Arc.

0:18:57 > 0:19:01Yes, after not even any debate, really, after a brief discussion,

0:19:01 > 0:19:05we finally feel that we can help our contestant,

0:19:05 > 0:19:10and we are ready to tell you that Joan of Arc fought in this conflict.

0:19:10 > 0:19:12OK, really good knowledge there from Angela.

0:19:12 > 0:19:16They believe that Joan of Arc fought in the Hundred Years War.

0:19:16 > 0:19:19- Angela sounded like she knew the answer, so...- She did.

0:19:19 > 0:19:21Don't seem so shocked.

0:19:21 > 0:19:23LAUGHTER

0:19:23 > 0:19:26I think I'm going to go with the panel.

0:19:26 > 0:19:30- I'm going to go with B. - Joan of Arc?- Yes.

0:19:31 > 0:19:34OK, you're going with the panel.

0:19:34 > 0:19:38Did Joan of Arc fight in the Hundred Years War?

0:19:38 > 0:19:40For £500, the correct answer is?

0:19:45 > 0:19:47She did! APPLAUSE

0:19:47 > 0:19:50Very well done. Well played, Claire.

0:19:50 > 0:19:53Joan of Arc did fight in the conflict,

0:19:53 > 0:19:55being captured and executed in 1431.

0:19:55 > 0:20:01That is £500 into the prize pot, taking you up, Claire, to £1,700.

0:20:01 > 0:20:03APPLAUSE

0:20:05 > 0:20:07Here's question two.

0:20:26 > 0:20:30Um, I'm trying to remember the film Walk The Line.

0:20:30 > 0:20:35I think i'm swaying towards B, spent a year in prison for arson.

0:20:35 > 0:20:39- OK, you're swaying towards B.- Yeah. - You're not quite sure.

0:20:39 > 0:20:42Panel, Johnny Cash. Which statement is true? Your debate starts now.

0:20:42 > 0:20:45- I think the haemorrhoid cream thing is a joke.- I don't know.

0:20:45 > 0:20:47Because of the song - burning ring of fire.

0:20:47 > 0:20:49LAUGHTER

0:20:49 > 0:20:53- I wish it was though. - And I won't accept it.

0:20:53 > 0:20:59- When did Stalin die?- See? That sounds like the most likely to me.

0:20:59 > 0:21:00It sounds like one of those ones,

0:21:00 > 0:21:02he might have been in a radio station

0:21:02 > 0:21:04or something when the news came in or something like that.

0:21:04 > 0:21:08- When did Stalin die? After the Second World War, wasn't it?- Yeah.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11And as for spent a year in prison for arson, I mean,

0:21:11 > 0:21:14if they never put him away for shooting a man in Reno

0:21:14 > 0:21:15just to watch him die,

0:21:15 > 0:21:18I'd be surprised if they then decided to pick him up for arson.

0:21:18 > 0:21:22- I wonder if then it has to be the first one.- Yeah.

0:21:22 > 0:21:23Cos he would have been...

0:21:23 > 0:21:27- I like your theory that he would have been in a radio station.- Yeah.

0:21:27 > 0:21:30It's one of those nice little facts that he'd have been around

0:21:30 > 0:21:32somewhere as the despatches came in.

0:21:32 > 0:21:35- I think the first one.- Yeah.- Shall we go for the first one then?- Yeah.

0:21:35 > 0:21:36Shall we? Right.

0:21:36 > 0:21:40By the process of elimination and logical discussion, we reckon that

0:21:40 > 0:21:43Johnny Cash was the first American to hear that Stalin had died.

0:21:44 > 0:21:46So, Claire...?

0:21:46 > 0:21:47Oh, dear.

0:21:47 > 0:21:50- Any help?- I'm torn.

0:21:50 > 0:21:52I'm torn between A and B now.

0:21:53 > 0:21:56I'll stick with the panel. Go with A.

0:21:56 > 0:21:58Stalin.

0:22:00 > 0:22:02OK. You've changed your mind.

0:22:02 > 0:22:03Your first thought,

0:22:03 > 0:22:07he spent a year in prison for arson after our panel's debate.

0:22:07 > 0:22:10You're going with Johnny Cash was the first American to hear

0:22:10 > 0:22:12Stalin had died.

0:22:12 > 0:22:15For £500, is that the correct statement?

0:22:19 > 0:22:22It is! APPLAUSE

0:22:22 > 0:22:24It's a weird one to make up, isn't it?

0:22:24 > 0:22:25While he was in the army,

0:22:25 > 0:22:29- he was working intercepting Russian morse code messages.- Ah.

0:22:29 > 0:22:31That's how he was doing it.

0:22:31 > 0:22:35And he intercepted the message of Stalin's death in March 1953.

0:22:35 > 0:22:38So you carbon dated that just about right, Angela.

0:22:38 > 0:22:40He never served a custodial sentence,

0:22:40 > 0:22:44although he famously gave concerts in the prisons.

0:22:44 > 0:22:48His family blocked a haemorrhoid cream advert,

0:22:48 > 0:22:52using Ring Of Fire for the advert, Ed.

0:22:52 > 0:22:55- We can all breathe easily. - Well done, Johnny Cash's family.

0:22:55 > 0:22:59Well done, Johnny Cash's family. Well done, panel. Well done, Claire. At the end of round three,

0:22:59 > 0:23:03I can tell you that you've got every single question

0:23:03 > 0:23:06absolutely right and your prize pot is the maximum £2,200.

0:23:06 > 0:23:08CHEERS AND APPLAUSE

0:23:10 > 0:23:12If you manage to win the Final Debate,

0:23:12 > 0:23:15any plans what you'd like to do with it?

0:23:15 > 0:23:18I've been wanting to go to India and do a tour,

0:23:18 > 0:23:20so if I got the money,

0:23:20 > 0:23:23then it'd probably be the first thing that I book.

0:23:23 > 0:23:26Look, Claire, there is only one question that stands between

0:23:26 > 0:23:29you and that £2,200. It is the Final Debate.

0:23:29 > 0:23:30Now, in our Final Debate,

0:23:30 > 0:23:32you will get a question with six possible answers.

0:23:32 > 0:23:34Only three are correct.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37We need all three correct answers for you to win the money.

0:23:37 > 0:23:38But you will not be on your own.

0:23:38 > 0:23:42You will choose one of these fine intellectuals

0:23:42 > 0:23:43to help you in your quest.

0:23:43 > 0:23:47You and your panelist will have 45 seconds to debate the question.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50So, Claire, who would you like to join you in the Final Debate?

0:23:50 > 0:23:52Will you be chasing the Johnny Cash with Sally Lindsay?

0:23:52 > 0:23:57Will it be from him to you, from you to him, with our Chuckle Brother Ed?

0:23:57 > 0:24:00Or will it be V for Victory with Angela Rippon?

0:24:00 > 0:24:04- Angela Rippon.- Angela, join us, as we play our Final Debate.

0:24:04 > 0:24:07APPLAUSE

0:24:11 > 0:24:14OK, Angela. Claire has chosen you for the Final Debate.

0:24:14 > 0:24:17You are raring to go. Feeling confident?

0:24:17 > 0:24:20There is such a responsibility on your shoulders

0:24:20 > 0:24:23when you're standing here next to you for this final round

0:24:23 > 0:24:28because you got £2,200 and I so want you to take that away with you,

0:24:28 > 0:24:31- so that you can go to India. - We all want you to do it, Claire.

0:24:31 > 0:24:34Because it's the Final Debate, though, we will give you a choice.

0:24:34 > 0:24:38Have a look at these two categories. Chat it through with Angela.

0:24:38 > 0:24:40Tell us what you fancy from this pair.

0:24:46 > 0:24:49I do know a bit about ballet, if that helps!

0:24:49 > 0:24:53- I used to do ballet when I was little.- Did you?- When I was little.

0:24:53 > 0:24:56- So I don't remember it.- Right. - I go to weddings.

0:24:56 > 0:24:58- OK, Claire, you're going to go for...?- Weddings.

0:24:58 > 0:25:00You're going for weddings.

0:25:00 > 0:25:06The maximum prize of £2,200 at stake. 45 seconds on the clock.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08We really hope you can do this.

0:25:08 > 0:25:11Here comes your Final Debate question on weddings.

0:25:23 > 0:25:25No.

0:25:32 > 0:25:34Your Final Debate starts now.

0:25:34 > 0:25:40Well, emerald, I know, is... Is it...? No, diamond is 60.

0:25:40 > 0:25:42Emerald, I think, comes after that, would be 70.

0:25:42 > 0:25:44Gold is 50, so it can't be either of those.

0:25:44 > 0:25:47It's got to be one of the ones that are left.

0:25:47 > 0:25:49Bronze... Quite a base metal.

0:25:49 > 0:25:52- Do we think bronze might be low on the list?- Mm.

0:25:52 > 0:25:55My gran used to have plates with the wedding years on.

0:25:55 > 0:25:58- Can you remember?- No.

0:25:58 > 0:26:01- Well, let's try and work it out.- 20 seconds.- Let's try and work it out.

0:26:01 > 0:26:04Bronze, quite low.

0:26:04 > 0:26:08- Coral, I think... - I don't think it's steel.- Steel.

0:26:08 > 0:26:10I think it might be bronze, coral and ivory.

0:26:10 > 0:26:12Bronze, coral and ivory.

0:26:12 > 0:26:15- Yeah.- All right.- I think. - Are they the lowest?

0:26:15 > 0:26:19I think so. I don't think steel even comes into it.

0:26:19 > 0:26:21Time up, Claire, I need three answers.

0:26:21 > 0:26:23Ivory, coral and bronze.

0:26:23 > 0:26:25Ivory, coral and bronze.

0:26:25 > 0:26:27OK, Claire, best of luck.

0:26:27 > 0:26:30You know we need all three answers to be correct for £2,200.

0:26:30 > 0:26:34The first answer you gave us was ivory.

0:26:35 > 0:26:38Is ivory one of the fewest number of years up there?

0:26:39 > 0:26:41For £2,200.

0:26:46 > 0:26:50Well played. You're up and ruinning. Ivory, 14 years married.

0:26:50 > 0:26:52Then we have coral and bronze.

0:26:52 > 0:26:54You were most confident on...?

0:26:54 > 0:26:56Bronze.

0:26:56 > 0:26:58OK, you were most confident on bronze.

0:26:58 > 0:27:02Let's see if bronze is one of the fewest number of years

0:27:02 > 0:27:04celebrated at a wedding anniversary.

0:27:04 > 0:27:08To keep us on track for £2,200, is bronze a correct answer?

0:27:14 > 0:27:17Well done! Well played!

0:27:17 > 0:27:19APPLAUSE

0:27:19 > 0:27:21Bronze, eight years married.

0:27:21 > 0:27:24Which leaves us with coral.

0:27:24 > 0:27:28Now, Angela, you thought that coral was one of the higher ones.

0:27:28 > 0:27:32But Claire, you believe it's one of the lower ones. You said coral.

0:27:32 > 0:27:35If coral's a correct answer, you leave with the money, Claire.

0:27:35 > 0:27:39If it's wrong, I'm afraid you do leave with nothing.

0:27:39 > 0:27:41I do hope you're right and i'm wrong.

0:27:41 > 0:27:42Best of luck. Here we go.

0:27:42 > 0:27:44Is coral a correct answer, for £2,200?

0:27:56 > 0:27:58It's the wrong answer, Claire.

0:27:58 > 0:28:00I am so sorry.

0:28:00 > 0:28:02Let's have a look at the correct answer.

0:28:02 > 0:28:04- Steel.- Oh, it's steel.

0:28:04 > 0:28:09You're right, Angela. It was steel. Steel is 11 years.

0:28:09 > 0:28:12I can tell you that coral is 35 years.

0:28:12 > 0:28:16Gold, 50 years. Emerald, 55 years.

0:28:16 > 0:28:18Claire, I am so sorry. You played the game so well.

0:28:18 > 0:28:22We really thought you were going to leave with the full sweep today.

0:28:22 > 0:28:26Give it up one more time for Claire. CHEERS AND APPLAUSE

0:28:26 > 0:28:29- I'm so sorry.- It's all right. - That is it for Debatable.

0:28:29 > 0:28:32There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel.

0:28:32 > 0:28:35To Angela Rippon, to Sally Lindsay, and Ed Byrne.

0:28:35 > 0:28:37I hope you've enjoyed watching.

0:28:37 > 0:28:39We'll see you next time for more heated debates.

0:28:39 > 0:28:41For now, it's goodbye from me.