Episode 9

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0:00:09 > 0:00:11CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:00:11 > 0:00:14Hello and welcome to Debatable,

0:00:14 > 0:00:17where today one player must answer a series of tricky questions to

0:00:17 > 0:00:21try and walk away with a jackpot of over £2,000, but as always,

0:00:21 > 0:00:23they're not on their own - they will have

0:00:23 > 0:00:26a panel of well-known faces debating their way to the answers.

0:00:26 > 0:00:29Will they help or will they hinder? As always, that's debatable.

0:00:29 > 0:00:31So let's meet them.

0:00:31 > 0:00:35Talking the talk today, we have Olympian and sports presenter

0:00:35 > 0:00:38Jonathan Edwards, we have retired MP and writer Ann Widdecombe,

0:00:38 > 0:00:42and broadcaster Rick Edwards. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:00:47 > 0:00:49Ann, you are chairing today's panel.

0:00:49 > 0:00:52How does it feel to be the meat in the Edwards sandwich today?

0:00:52 > 0:00:55Well, it will depend entirely on the quality of the bread which

0:00:55 > 0:00:58- surrounds me.- The Breadwards.

0:00:58 > 0:01:02Do you think you will need to rule this with an iron fist, or are

0:01:02 > 0:01:04you going to delegate like a Cabinet government?

0:01:04 > 0:01:08Well, I know that they're both brilliant at sport.

0:01:08 > 0:01:12And I also know that Rick is brilliant at nature.

0:01:12 > 0:01:14So I shall delegate on that.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17Now, Jonathan, can I just say you are the most

0:01:17 > 0:01:19intelligent-looking panellist we have ever had on...

0:01:19 > 0:01:21Oh, no. Not so intelligent now.

0:01:21 > 0:01:24No, not the looking over the top of the...

0:01:24 > 0:01:26Oh, when you look OVER the glasses...

0:01:26 > 0:01:27You see? Who's with Stupid?

0:01:27 > 0:01:29Look, and now we're back!

0:01:29 > 0:01:32The smartest panellist we've ever had!

0:01:32 > 0:01:35So, what's your specialist subjects? What do you think you can bring?

0:01:35 > 0:01:38I did a physics degree, so maybe a bit of science, physics,

0:01:38 > 0:01:42- something like that.- This is very good.- That shows there's proper brains there, Rick.- Mm.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45- Feeling any pressure there? - I've got to say,

0:01:45 > 0:01:50I'm delighted that if you took what Ann said out of context -

0:01:50 > 0:01:51"both brilliant at sport" -

0:01:51 > 0:01:54I've sort of been equated to a world record holder.

0:01:54 > 0:01:57I have to say, I thought Ann was being very generous there.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59Very generous to me! Yeah.

0:01:59 > 0:02:01Olympian Rick Edwards. How does that sound?

0:02:01 > 0:02:05- I mean, it sounds fantastic, doesn't it?- It sounds convincing. - Yeah. Does sound convincing.

0:02:05 > 0:02:09- I could pull that off. - You could once have been in the Boat Race, if you'd tried a bit harder.

0:02:09 > 0:02:11- LAUGHTER - Thank you, Mum. Erm...!

0:02:11 > 0:02:14That is our panel. Let's meet today's contestant.

0:02:14 > 0:02:18It is Danny from Hull. APPLAUSE

0:02:18 > 0:02:21All right, Danny? That's a firm handshake! Whoa!

0:02:21 > 0:02:23- How are you doing? - Yeah, I'm good, thank you.

0:02:23 > 0:02:29Tell us a little bit about yourself, apart from the fact that you've got huge guns and a handshake of steel.

0:02:29 > 0:02:30Well, they're all for show.

0:02:30 > 0:02:34- I did enter a bodybuilding competition last year.- No way!- Yeah.

0:02:34 > 0:02:37- Give us a couple of the poses. - Not in this jumper! No.

0:02:37 > 0:02:39- Go on, give us...- It's just the tapered waist, isn't it?

0:02:39 > 0:02:41- Is it that?- Yeah.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43- Bit of that?- Yeah.

0:02:43 > 0:02:44- Straight in there.- Bit of that? - Yeah.

0:02:44 > 0:02:47I don't look stupid here at all.

0:02:47 > 0:02:50- What do you make of our panel? - Nice selection.

0:02:50 > 0:02:54Who do you think is going to be the standout performer here?

0:02:54 > 0:02:57For me it'll be Ann, because politics is... Woof... Straight over my head.

0:02:57 > 0:03:00All right, you're going to need to pay close attention because

0:03:00 > 0:03:03you can only choose one of them to play the Final Debate.

0:03:03 > 0:03:04- You ready to play?- Yeah.

0:03:04 > 0:03:06OK, here we go. Let's play round one.

0:03:09 > 0:03:12Danny, in this round, it's all multiple choice.

0:03:12 > 0:03:14Four possible answers, three questions,

0:03:14 > 0:03:15£200 for each correct answer.

0:03:15 > 0:03:18Let's see if we can get you up and running, Danny, with this one.

0:03:38 > 0:03:41No idea who two of those are.

0:03:41 > 0:03:45It will be a wild stab in the dark. So I'll be relying on the panel.

0:03:45 > 0:03:49OK. I'm sure the panel will be able to sort this out for you.

0:03:49 > 0:03:51Panel, your debate starts now.

0:03:51 > 0:03:54Rick, what's your gut feeling?

0:03:54 > 0:03:56- I think I might have a bit of knowledge here actually, Ann.- Good.

0:03:56 > 0:03:58Yeah...

0:03:58 > 0:04:01Iman was married to David Bowie.

0:04:01 > 0:04:03- Bowie, yeah.- Right.

0:04:03 > 0:04:04Kate Moss...

0:04:06 > 0:04:09..was married or IS married or is...

0:04:09 > 0:04:13- Something to...- Jamie Hince. - Yes, that's right, yeah.

0:04:13 > 0:04:16- Who's in a band.- Come on, you're getting it down to two.

0:04:16 > 0:04:20..that I can't remember the name of... Christie Brinkley.

0:04:20 > 0:04:22I can picture her.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25Thankfully.

0:04:25 > 0:04:28- That's not what this round's about! - Yeah.

0:04:28 > 0:04:32But I don't know who she was married to.

0:04:32 > 0:04:36But Cindy Crawford was married to Richard Gere.

0:04:36 > 0:04:41And then subsequently married to, like, a businessman called Randy.

0:04:41 > 0:04:43- Sort of thing that makes me laugh.- OK.

0:04:43 > 0:04:47So I would say Cindy Crawford, because I don't remember her

0:04:47 > 0:04:50ever being with a pop star and I have kept quite

0:04:50 > 0:04:52a close eye on her relationship status.

0:04:52 > 0:04:54Just in case there's a... You know.

0:04:54 > 0:04:57- Do you have anything to better that with?- No.

0:04:57 > 0:05:02- No, you haven't.- Great shout from the professor(!)- Quite simply - no!

0:05:02 > 0:05:04Well, I know nothing at all about supermodels.

0:05:04 > 0:05:08So I think I'm going to go with you. What do the rest of the team...?

0:05:08 > 0:05:12- I'd agree with that completely. - I agree with myself. Yeah.

0:05:12 > 0:05:14You agree with yourself? Well, that's something.

0:05:14 > 0:05:17Um, the panel is going to say Cindy Crawford.

0:05:19 > 0:05:21What do you think?

0:05:21 > 0:05:23I think they'll know a lot more than I will on that...

0:05:25 > 0:05:27..so, yeah, go with what they're suggesting,

0:05:27 > 0:05:30- we'll go with Cindy Crawford.- OK, you're going with the panel.- Yes.

0:05:30 > 0:05:33Which supermodel hasn't been married to a pop star?

0:05:33 > 0:05:35Correct answer is...

0:05:39 > 0:05:42It IS Cindy Crawford! Well done, panel!

0:05:42 > 0:05:43Well done.

0:05:45 > 0:05:48So, you were right. Iman was married to David Bowie.

0:05:48 > 0:05:51Kate Moss was married to The Kills' guitarist, Jamie Hince.

0:05:51 > 0:05:54- Christie Brinkley was married to Billy Joel.- Ah!

0:05:54 > 0:05:58Cindy Crawford was famously married to Richard Gere

0:05:58 > 0:06:02in the 1990s. She is now married to businessman Rande Gerber.

0:06:04 > 0:06:05I keep an eye. I keep an eye!

0:06:05 > 0:06:07APPLAUSE

0:06:07 > 0:06:11And er...Rick's restraining order is still in place.

0:06:11 > 0:06:12LAUGHTER

0:06:12 > 0:06:14You are up and running, Danny,

0:06:14 > 0:06:16£200 into the prize pot.

0:06:16 > 0:06:18Here comes your next question.

0:06:37 > 0:06:39Considering I couldn't even SAY the word,

0:06:39 > 0:06:42it would be a guess again. Trying to think if I can

0:06:42 > 0:06:45split the word up, to pick anything out relating to the four answers,

0:06:45 > 0:06:49- but no, not getting anything. - OK. Don't worry. Panel, can you

0:06:49 > 0:06:50shed some light on this?

0:06:50 > 0:06:53- Your debate starts now.- Mr Nature, you know all these things.

0:06:53 > 0:06:56- Popular culture and now nature! - Yeah.- Off you go.

0:06:56 > 0:06:57He's good at nature.

0:06:57 > 0:07:00Well, I'm trying to split it up.

0:07:00 > 0:07:04The...The "-phagous" part just means "eating",

0:07:04 > 0:07:07so it's only the "xylo-" that matters.

0:07:07 > 0:07:11- I'd get rid of rainwater.- Get rid of rainwater. I agree with that.

0:07:11 > 0:07:14Apart from anything else, you can't feed on rainwater.

0:07:14 > 0:07:15And soil...?

0:07:16 > 0:07:18Er... Mmm...

0:07:18 > 0:07:19Xylo...

0:07:20 > 0:07:24..it means "stem", doesn't it? I think.

0:07:24 > 0:07:26Or something like that.

0:07:26 > 0:07:28I think it's wood.

0:07:28 > 0:07:32- Erm...- Do you?- I think that... Yeah, I think this is like, a woodworm

0:07:32 > 0:07:34is a xylophage.

0:07:34 > 0:07:36And is the "xylo" in "xylophone" the same "xylo"?

0:07:36 > 0:07:38- And does that give us anything? - Ooh!

0:07:38 > 0:07:41I like that. Maybe. Cos that's just...

0:07:41 > 0:07:43- That would have just been "wooden"...- "Wood"...- Yeah.

0:07:43 > 0:07:45Maybe it just means "wood", then.

0:07:46 > 0:07:48That sounds very plausible to me.

0:07:50 > 0:07:54I don't know of any insect that feeds...feeds on pollen

0:07:54 > 0:07:57in the way that... I mean, bees don't...

0:07:57 > 0:07:59Would you say that bees FEED on it?

0:08:00 > 0:08:02Maybe.

0:08:02 > 0:08:06Well... You are the expert, you think it's wood...

0:08:06 > 0:08:09It's the only one that makes sense. You know, "xylo" and "xylophone".

0:08:09 > 0:08:12- Only one that makes sense.- Yep. I'm glad you brought up "xylophone"

0:08:12 > 0:08:14cos it takes a bit of pressure off me!

0:08:14 > 0:08:17I think we should now just have the courage of our convictions,

0:08:17 > 0:08:19the panel says...wood.

0:08:21 > 0:08:24Ann harnessing the panel. Taking charge there.

0:08:24 > 0:08:26They're going for wood.

0:08:26 > 0:08:29That's what I was thinking with "xylophone", strangely enough.

0:08:29 > 0:08:32- So, we'll go with them again. - OK. You're going for wood.

0:08:32 > 0:08:35A xylophagous,

0:08:35 > 0:08:37does it primarily feed

0:08:37 > 0:08:39on wood? For £200.

0:08:43 > 0:08:46It's the correct answer! Well done!

0:08:46 > 0:08:47APPLAUSE

0:08:47 > 0:08:49Well done, Danny.

0:08:49 > 0:08:51Good knowledge, Rick. Very well played.

0:08:51 > 0:08:56The "xylo" does come from the Greek and means "relating to wood".

0:08:56 > 0:08:57Hence, Professor...?

0:08:57 > 0:08:59- Xylophone.- Thank you very much.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02Good knowledge. Yeah, very good knowledge.

0:09:02 > 0:09:05Well done. Another £200 into the prize pot. You're up to £400!

0:09:05 > 0:09:08APPLAUSE

0:09:10 > 0:09:13OK, Danny, here's your last question of this round.

0:09:36 > 0:09:38All of the panel with their head in their hands

0:09:38 > 0:09:41before we begin on this, this is a very good sign(!)

0:09:41 > 0:09:42Pondering!

0:09:43 > 0:09:47I like Michael Caine, so I'd...probably go Michael Caine.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50- OK, just because you like Michael Caine?- Yeah.

0:09:50 > 0:09:51It could be as good a reason as we find.

0:09:51 > 0:09:53Panel, your debate starts now.

0:09:54 > 0:09:57Maggie Smith was a stage actress in the '60s.

0:09:57 > 0:09:58I saw her a lot at the National.

0:09:58 > 0:10:03- Ah!- So there...!- That's interesting. - So would she have been

0:10:03 > 0:10:06in the running for a film award? She was definitely a big stage actress.

0:10:06 > 0:10:08- I think you're on to something there.- Yeah. And we haven't got

0:10:08 > 0:10:11- a lot else, so...!- No.

0:10:11 > 0:10:13I think it's between Vanessa and Peter,

0:10:13 > 0:10:16because those two tended to get nominations.

0:10:16 > 0:10:19- I mean, what would Michael Caine have been nominated for?- Alfie?

0:10:19 > 0:10:21And then maybe The Italian Job?

0:10:22 > 0:10:26I think, shall we get rid of Maggie Smith, because of your stage thing?

0:10:26 > 0:10:28- I quite like that.- Yes.- And then...

0:10:28 > 0:10:30Yeah, I mean...

0:10:30 > 0:10:33Is Michael Caine an obvious... Too obvious, going back to the...?

0:10:33 > 0:10:36I'm going to say Peter O'Toole. It's probably Vanessa Redgrave,

0:10:36 > 0:10:39- but I'm going to say Peter O'Toole. - I'd go with O'Toole, yeah.- Yeah.

0:10:39 > 0:10:43- Caine's too obvious.- OK, we're going to say Peter O'Toole.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47OK. They're going for Peter O'Toole.

0:10:47 > 0:10:50They haven't not let me down so far. We'll go with Peter O'Toole.

0:10:52 > 0:10:55OK. Was Peter O'Toole nominated for an Oscar in every decade

0:10:55 > 0:10:57from the '60s to the 2000s?

0:11:04 > 0:11:06It was Michael Caine!

0:11:06 > 0:11:09It was Michael Caine.

0:11:09 > 0:11:13Peter O'Toole was nominated eight times - but not in the '90s.

0:11:13 > 0:11:15Danny, nothing for that question, I'm afraid.

0:11:15 > 0:11:18It means, at the end of round one, you're on £400!

0:11:18 > 0:11:21APPLAUSE

0:11:22 > 0:11:25Couple of rounds still to go before you have to choose who plays

0:11:25 > 0:11:28the Final Debate with you. Let's see how our panel are on pictures,

0:11:28 > 0:11:29it's time for round two!

0:11:32 > 0:11:35OK, Danny, round two is our picture round,

0:11:35 > 0:11:37we need you to put three pictures in order.

0:11:37 > 0:11:39£300 for each correct answer,

0:11:39 > 0:11:41a possible £600 up for grabs.

0:11:41 > 0:11:42Here's your first picture question.

0:12:00 > 0:12:03My best friend travels America, and he plots it all out and knows

0:12:03 > 0:12:05exactly where he's going...

0:12:05 > 0:12:08If I had Phone A Friend, we'd be on this.

0:12:08 > 0:12:10If only you had a well-travelled panel, Danny,

0:12:10 > 0:12:13that could sort this out for you. Panel, your debate starts now.

0:12:13 > 0:12:17- Can anybody picture any of these exactly?- I'd say that was

0:12:17 > 0:12:20- the most southerly.- Yeah. Cos that's...that's, sort of,

0:12:20 > 0:12:23- right in the middle-bottom, right?- Down, yeah.

0:12:23 > 0:12:25I'd say that was the most southerly.

0:12:25 > 0:12:27- And I think... - That's the most northerly...

0:12:27 > 0:12:30..New Hampshire - most northerly? Cos it's up, sort of,

0:12:30 > 0:12:33like... Past, you know...

0:12:33 > 0:12:36- Sort of Boston-y.- Yeah, Boston-y way.- And then Maryland...

0:12:36 > 0:12:38- In the middle.- Yeah.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41So, make sure we've got them the right way round, because...

0:12:41 > 0:12:44So the northern one should be in front of Jon...

0:12:44 > 0:12:45- Oh, yeah, sorry.- New Hampshire...

0:12:45 > 0:12:47We've been fairly quick to get to it.

0:12:47 > 0:12:50- I think you've got to be right about that one.- Yeah.

0:12:50 > 0:12:52I'll tell you what I'm trying to see. I'm trying to see the map of

0:12:52 > 0:12:54- the American elections in my mind...- Oh, yeah.

0:12:54 > 0:12:58- Was Maryland at the top in the middle?- And I think this is right.

0:12:58 > 0:13:00OK.

0:13:00 > 0:13:03- I do think it's right. - Yeah, my only slight concern is

0:13:03 > 0:13:06I can't quite work out where Maryland is.

0:13:06 > 0:13:08Arkansas here, New Hampshire here -

0:13:08 > 0:13:10we just need Maryland to be somewhere here!

0:13:10 > 0:13:12- There, yeah.- I think it's...

0:13:12 > 0:13:14I think Maryland

0:13:14 > 0:13:17is east coast.

0:13:17 > 0:13:19But it could also not be!

0:13:19 > 0:13:21- No, let's go... - No, I think we should go with...

0:13:21 > 0:13:24- We'll talk ourselves out of it in a minute.- We will.- Yeah?

0:13:24 > 0:13:27So - the panel have decided that the most northerly is New Hampshire,

0:13:27 > 0:13:31Maryland comes next, and Arkansas is the most southerly.

0:13:34 > 0:13:36- So, Danny - panel reasonably sure on this one.- Yep.

0:13:36 > 0:13:38Definitely agree with the one to the far right,

0:13:38 > 0:13:41and it would have been a guess for me on those two

0:13:41 > 0:13:43but I'll stick with that.

0:13:45 > 0:13:46OK, you're going with the panel.

0:13:46 > 0:13:48You think that New Hampshire is most northerly,

0:13:48 > 0:13:51then Maryland, then Arkansas.

0:13:51 > 0:13:54For £300, is that the correct order?

0:13:59 > 0:14:01It is the correct order!

0:14:01 > 0:14:03Very well done.

0:14:03 > 0:14:05APPLAUSE

0:14:05 > 0:14:06Well played. There it is.

0:14:06 > 0:14:09New Hampshire is the most northerly of the three.

0:14:09 > 0:14:10Then Maryland in the middle

0:14:10 > 0:14:13and Arkansas, basically, in the middle of the Deep South.

0:14:13 > 0:14:17OK, well played. £300 into the prize pot. You're up to £700.

0:14:17 > 0:14:19APPLAUSE

0:14:19 > 0:14:22Here's your second picture question.

0:14:38 > 0:14:40I'd be guessing again...

0:14:42 > 0:14:44Erm... So I'm not even going to try and guess,

0:14:44 > 0:14:46I'll wait to see what the panel say

0:14:46 > 0:14:49- and get an idea from there, I think. - OK, panel, it is almost

0:14:49 > 0:14:52a question of sport. Your debate starts now.

0:14:52 > 0:14:56I think George Harrison comes before George Best.

0:14:56 > 0:15:01- OK.- They were both young men when they were very famous

0:15:01 > 0:15:03and beginning to peak and all the rest of it.

0:15:03 > 0:15:06I can remember George Harrison very well from the '60s

0:15:06 > 0:15:08cos it was Beatlemania.

0:15:08 > 0:15:10I remember gyrating to them.

0:15:10 > 0:15:14- Oh, lovely, let me just take a moment. Got it. - LAUGHTER

0:15:14 > 0:15:18When was Foreman fighting his big fights?

0:15:18 > 0:15:23- With Ali...?- Erm...- Because he'd be 20-ish, wouldn't he?- '70s.- '70s.

0:15:23 > 0:15:29- So I would say Foreman is probably younger than these two.- Yeah.

0:15:29 > 0:15:34But it's quite... I mean, when did he design the grilling machine?

0:15:34 > 0:15:36- The lean, green... - Lean, MEAN...

0:15:36 > 0:15:37Lean, mean grilling machine!

0:15:37 > 0:15:39- LAUGHTER - The thing he's most famous for(!)

0:15:39 > 0:15:41So you think he's younger.

0:15:41 > 0:15:45Well... I think he was... he was fighting in the '70s.

0:15:45 > 0:15:48When did George Best die?

0:15:48 > 0:15:51- When?- Mmm...- And how old was he? - Quite recently

0:15:51 > 0:15:54- and I don't know.- I wasn't aware of him at all in the '60s.

0:15:54 > 0:15:57Would you have taken a lot of notice of football as opposed to music?

0:15:57 > 0:16:01No, I wouldn't, that's perfectly fair, I wouldn't.

0:16:01 > 0:16:03But on the other hand, when guys are making headlines,

0:16:03 > 0:16:05- you do it by osmosis.- Yeah.

0:16:05 > 0:16:06And I was much... I mean,

0:16:06 > 0:16:09I WAS aware of George Harrison throughout the '60s, pretty well.

0:16:09 > 0:16:13Um... I came to recognise George Best much, much later.

0:16:13 > 0:16:16And I don't think that's just because I wasn't a sports fan,

0:16:16 > 0:16:19I think... Cos he wasn't around in the papers and making headlines.

0:16:19 > 0:16:21That's what I THINK.

0:16:21 > 0:16:24- So you think he's the oldest... - I think.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26And then, do you want to go between these two...?

0:16:26 > 0:16:28If I accept your judgment that he's the youngest,

0:16:28 > 0:16:31then I think he's the oldest. You have oldest...

0:16:31 > 0:16:34Harrison, then Best...

0:16:34 > 0:16:36- Do we sign up to this, do we think? - Er...

0:16:36 > 0:16:39Yeah, I think I would go with this.

0:16:39 > 0:16:44So the panel has decided - fairly confidently but not 100% so -

0:16:44 > 0:16:47that the order of birth was George Harrison first,

0:16:47 > 0:16:48George Best second,

0:16:48 > 0:16:50George Foreman third.

0:16:51 > 0:16:55So Ann drawing on some of her '60s knowledge there, and Beatlemania.

0:16:55 > 0:16:58- What do you think, Danny? - I'll stick with, as they've got it,

0:16:58 > 0:17:01George Harrison, George Best, then George Foreman.

0:17:01 > 0:17:06OK - agreeing with the panel for £300, is that the correct answer?

0:17:11 > 0:17:17It is! Very well played! Well done, Ann. Very well done.

0:17:17 > 0:17:18Well played, Danny.

0:17:18 > 0:17:23Harrison was born in 1943, George Best was born in 1946,

0:17:23 > 0:17:28Foreman was born in 1949. Danny, very well done -

0:17:28 > 0:17:31at the end of round two your prize pot stands at £1,000.

0:17:31 > 0:17:35CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:17:35 > 0:17:39And there's still another £1,000 up for grabs, as we play round three.

0:17:42 > 0:17:45So, in this round you will face three statements about a person,

0:17:45 > 0:17:48a place, or a thing - only one of them is true.

0:17:48 > 0:17:50Again, two questions in this round,

0:17:50 > 0:17:54£500 for each correct answer, a possible £1,000 up for grabs.

0:17:54 > 0:17:56Have a look at this.

0:18:16 > 0:18:19I think I actually might know this one.

0:18:19 > 0:18:22Erm... I think it's the Vanilla Ice one.

0:18:22 > 0:18:25You think The Bartman was produced by Vanilla Ice?

0:18:25 > 0:18:27Hold that thought.

0:18:27 > 0:18:29Let's see if our panel can bring any Simpsons knowledge to this,

0:18:29 > 0:18:31your debate starts now.

0:18:31 > 0:18:33Anybody want to argue with the contestant?

0:18:33 > 0:18:36- RICK SIGHS - You do...

0:18:36 > 0:18:38I know nothing about The Simpsons. Nothing.

0:18:38 > 0:18:40- I... I don't...- I would have thought

0:18:40 > 0:18:42three was very plausible.

0:18:42 > 0:18:45Yeah, but it's more likely to be a reference to the famous Homer,

0:18:45 > 0:18:47isn't it?

0:18:47 > 0:18:49Do you not think?

0:18:49 > 0:18:52I don't know. I mean, people have odd reasons for naming characters.

0:18:52 > 0:18:56- Yeah...- And sometimes there is that sort of personal involvement.

0:18:56 > 0:18:59I just always assumed that it was funny to have a kind of character

0:18:59 > 0:19:01who was a fool called...

0:19:01 > 0:19:04- Homer.- ..a kind of highfalutin', famed, sort of intellectual.

0:19:04 > 0:19:06And the printing error wasn't...

0:19:06 > 0:19:08The printing error...

0:19:08 > 0:19:10How did it...

0:19:10 > 0:19:13I actually don't know if it STARTED as a TV thing.

0:19:13 > 0:19:15If it started as a TV thing...

0:19:17 > 0:19:21..how would you have a printing error that would...

0:19:21 > 0:19:24- It doesn't seem to make any sense. - Yeah, doesn't really...

0:19:24 > 0:19:27Unless it was in... kind of early sketches,

0:19:27 > 0:19:29that they did on...

0:19:29 > 0:19:31- Mmm...- Even then...

0:19:31 > 0:19:32What do we think about the second option?

0:19:32 > 0:19:35This is the one that Danny has chosen.

0:19:35 > 0:19:38Yeah, I mean, the one that Danny said, I felt like

0:19:38 > 0:19:40- it seems plausible. - And given our vagueness...

0:19:40 > 0:19:44- Does it ring any bells?- Honestly, no, it doesn't ring a bell...

0:19:44 > 0:19:45But given our vagueness,

0:19:45 > 0:19:48- Danny's going to take absolutely no notice of us.- That's a good point.

0:19:48 > 0:19:50Well, he'd be very wise not to.

0:19:50 > 0:19:52- Shall we go for the second? - Yes.- Yeah.

0:19:53 > 0:19:57Right, well, the panel has elected to go with Danny,

0:19:57 > 0:20:01and we think it's all to do with Vanilla Ice.

0:20:02 > 0:20:06- Magnificent Simpsons knowledge there...- Indeed.

0:20:06 > 0:20:09..from the panel, Danny. They're going with you.

0:20:09 > 0:20:12Erm, I'm going to stick with B,

0:20:12 > 0:20:14Do The Bartman was produced by Vanilla Ice -

0:20:14 > 0:20:17- and look like a complete numpty if it's actually wrong. - LAUGHTER

0:20:17 > 0:20:21OK. You're going with your first thought, agreeing with the panel -

0:20:21 > 0:20:24was The Bartman produced by Vanilla Ice, for £500?

0:20:31 > 0:20:33It's Homer's dad. Yeah...

0:20:33 > 0:20:37Creator Matt Groening's father was called Homer.

0:20:37 > 0:20:39The Simpsons are yellow because when people were flicking through

0:20:39 > 0:20:42the channels, the creators actually wanted people to know that it was

0:20:42 > 0:20:45The Simpsons, just with the flash of yellow.

0:20:45 > 0:20:49I'm afraid no money for that, Danny, but still £500 up for grabs here -

0:20:49 > 0:20:50have a look at this.

0:21:13 > 0:21:17Not a huge cricket fan, but for some reason, B is ringing

0:21:17 > 0:21:21bells with somebody telling me something...a long time ago, maybe?

0:21:21 > 0:21:24But I'm hoping Jonathan might confirm.

0:21:24 > 0:21:27OK... Panel, your debate starts now.

0:21:28 > 0:21:33So... I presented the BBC Sports Personality of the Year trophy

0:21:33 > 0:21:38to Damon Hill in 1996, and he was

0:21:38 > 0:21:40the first person to win it twice.

0:21:40 > 0:21:42- So it certainly isn't the bottom one...- No.

0:21:42 > 0:21:44He definitely played football for Scunthorpe United...

0:21:44 > 0:21:47Hang on, there wasn't anything about the first person,

0:21:47 > 0:21:49it just says "twice voted".

0:21:49 > 0:21:51Nothing about being the FIRST to be twice voted.

0:21:51 > 0:21:52Sorry, what have I missed?

0:21:52 > 0:21:55- No, but he was the first one, Damon Hill, in 1994 and 1996...- Yes.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58- ..and Ian Botham was before then. - He wouldn't have won after '96.

0:21:58 > 0:22:00Got you. Got you. Yeah.

0:22:00 > 0:22:01He definitely played for Scunthorpe -

0:22:01 > 0:22:04I can't think he has the most wins ever as England captain,

0:22:04 > 0:22:07- he wasn't a great England captain. - No...

0:22:07 > 0:22:10If you're watching, Beefy, you're a great cricketer

0:22:10 > 0:22:12but I don't think you were the best ever England captain!

0:22:12 > 0:22:15So it's got to... Got to be Scunthorpe United, do you think?

0:22:15 > 0:22:18- Diplomatic! That was diplomatic. - Yeah...

0:22:18 > 0:22:20- I'm totally with Jonathan. - Scunthorpe United?

0:22:20 > 0:22:25- Yes.- I'm sure it isn't the bottom one, the Sports Personality...

0:22:25 > 0:22:28- It's definitely not that.- ..and Jonathan's reasoning is watertight.

0:22:28 > 0:22:33- Yeah, I can't believe he's got the most wins as the captain.- No.

0:22:33 > 0:22:38And I know that he played football to a...to a decent standard.

0:22:38 > 0:22:41And it WAS Scunthorpe United, for sure.

0:22:41 > 0:22:43- So it must be the middle one. - Yeah. I would go for that.

0:22:43 > 0:22:46OK. I would have... if I'd been left on my own,

0:22:46 > 0:22:49I would have gone for the third, but I bow to your superior knowledge.

0:22:49 > 0:22:53So therefore, the panel is going to say that Ian Botham

0:22:53 > 0:22:56played league football for Scunthorpe United.

0:22:58 > 0:23:01So, on the basis that we have a former winner of

0:23:01 > 0:23:07BBC Sports Personality of the Year on the panel, they're going for B.

0:23:07 > 0:23:09As am I. I'll go with B.

0:23:09 > 0:23:11- OK, you're going with the panel...? - Yeah.

0:23:11 > 0:23:13All righty, for £500,

0:23:13 > 0:23:16did Ian Botham play league football for Scunthorpe United?

0:23:21 > 0:23:23He did! APPLAUSE

0:23:25 > 0:23:28Well done. Well done.

0:23:28 > 0:23:32Ian Botham made 11 appearances as a non-contract player

0:23:32 > 0:23:34for Scunthorpe United in the '80s,

0:23:34 > 0:23:37during the peak of his England cricket career.

0:23:37 > 0:23:41Botham was Sports Personality of the Year just once, in 1981...

0:23:41 > 0:23:45Botham didn't have any wins as England captain.

0:23:45 > 0:23:47- It was a fair comment, then. - LAUGHTER

0:23:47 > 0:23:49I mean, it was as diplomatic as you could be.

0:23:49 > 0:23:51- Danny, very well done...- Thank you.

0:23:51 > 0:23:54At the end of round three your prize pot is up to £1,500!

0:23:54 > 0:23:56CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:23:58 > 0:23:59So it's a tidy sum -

0:23:59 > 0:24:02any plans with the money, if you manage to win today?

0:24:02 > 0:24:04Yes - going to Mexico in September,

0:24:04 > 0:24:08so I'll be planning on swimming with some whale sharks, if possible.

0:24:08 > 0:24:11OK. Trip to Mexico at stake. No pressure, panel.

0:24:11 > 0:24:14There is one question between you and that money,

0:24:14 > 0:24:16it is of course the Final Debate.

0:24:16 > 0:24:18You're going to have six possible answers -

0:24:18 > 0:24:20only three are correct, we need all three.

0:24:20 > 0:24:22You're not going to be on your own, though,

0:24:22 > 0:24:24you are going to have the help of one of these fine human beings.

0:24:24 > 0:24:27So - who would you like to join you for the Final Debate?

0:24:27 > 0:24:31Will it be our lean, mean quizzing machine, Jonathan?

0:24:31 > 0:24:36Will you be twisting and shouting with our Beatles fan, Ann?

0:24:36 > 0:24:38Or do you want to go for the "Homer run", with Rick?

0:24:38 > 0:24:42- Going to go with Rick. - You're going for Rick. Rick, please join us for the Final Debate.

0:24:48 > 0:24:53OK, Rick, Danny's chosen you for the Final Debate. Feeling confident?

0:24:53 > 0:24:55I AM feeling confident. Yeah.

0:24:55 > 0:24:58I think I'm going to get this money for Danny.

0:24:58 > 0:25:01- OK. Happy with your choice? - Yes, very.- OK, good.

0:25:01 > 0:25:04All right, you do get two categories to choose from -

0:25:04 > 0:25:05have a look at this, tell me what you fancy.

0:25:09 > 0:25:11I think we'll go Nature?

0:25:11 > 0:25:14I... Yes. Yeah.

0:25:14 > 0:25:16I don't know anything about novels.

0:25:16 > 0:25:17Read a book(?)

0:25:17 > 0:25:21- LAUGHTER - At school.

0:25:21 > 0:25:23- I think nature.- Yeah, Nature. - LAUGHTER

0:25:23 > 0:25:27- Nature?- Yeah.- Nature it is!

0:25:27 > 0:25:28OK, Danny, we wish you all the best here.

0:25:28 > 0:25:31£1,500 up for grabs - you know how it works,

0:25:31 > 0:25:34we need three correct answers from this.

0:25:34 > 0:25:35Here's your Final Debate question.

0:25:53 > 0:25:55Your time starts now.

0:25:56 > 0:25:59Well... I mean, you could probably get rid of Macaroni

0:25:59 > 0:26:02and Pappardelle, cos they're pasta...

0:26:02 > 0:26:05I'm pretty sure that Humboldt is a penguin.

0:26:05 > 0:26:08Erm, Bering...

0:26:08 > 0:26:11The Bering Strait. Is there a... Mmm...

0:26:11 > 0:26:16I think Mariana... I'd go Humboldt, Mariana... (Galapagos...)

0:26:16 > 0:26:19I think there IS a Galapagos penguin.

0:26:19 > 0:26:21- I mean, do you want to say anything? - LAUGHTER

0:26:21 > 0:26:23I was waiting for you to keep going!

0:26:23 > 0:26:27- I don't know...- Is there one that lives on the Galapagos Islands,

0:26:27 > 0:26:30is that a thing? Does it just... live there so they named it, or...

0:26:30 > 0:26:33- 10 seconds.- That's sort of what I'm hoping.

0:26:33 > 0:26:36But honestly, I don't know. It's between...

0:26:36 > 0:26:40- I would go Humboldt, Mariana and Galapagos. But...- Yeah.

0:26:40 > 0:26:42SIREN SOUNDS Danny, I need three answers.

0:26:42 > 0:26:45We'll go Humboldt, Mariana and Galapagos, then.

0:26:45 > 0:26:48We need all three of these to be correct.

0:26:48 > 0:26:51First one you gave me was Humboldt...

0:26:51 > 0:26:57To stay in the game for £1,500, is Humboldt a species of penguin?

0:27:02 > 0:27:03It is!

0:27:03 > 0:27:06CHEERING AND APPLAUSE It is, well done.

0:27:06 > 0:27:10South American penguin that breeds in Chile and Peru.

0:27:10 > 0:27:12Tell me something I DON'T know, Patrick(!)

0:27:12 > 0:27:14LAUGHTER

0:27:14 > 0:27:18You then gave me Mariana. Any particular reason for that?

0:27:18 > 0:27:21This gentleman to the right of me.

0:27:21 > 0:27:24Any particular reason for that, Rick?

0:27:24 > 0:27:28Don't think Mariana is a type of pasta, if that helps. I...

0:27:28 > 0:27:33- Yeah, I think there is a Mariana penguin.- OK.- Simple as that.

0:27:33 > 0:27:35OK.

0:27:35 > 0:27:39You said Mariana - to stay in the game for £1,500...

0:27:39 > 0:27:43is Mariana a species of penguin?

0:27:51 > 0:27:54It's not, Danny. I'm so sorry.

0:27:54 > 0:27:57Erm,

0:27:57 > 0:27:59- let's have a look at your other answer.- Oh, sorry.- Never mind.

0:27:59 > 0:28:03Galapagos is the most northerly of all penguins,

0:28:03 > 0:28:05and then the Macaroni

0:28:05 > 0:28:09is the penguin with the distinctive yellow crest on its head.

0:28:09 > 0:28:12Oh, I'm sorry, Danny!

0:28:12 > 0:28:14- Don't worry about it.- I'm so sorry.

0:28:14 > 0:28:17- Thanks for coming in to see us, Danny. Very well played.- Thank you.

0:28:17 > 0:28:18Give it up for Danny!

0:28:18 > 0:28:21- APPLAUSE - Sorry.- Nah, don't worry about it.

0:28:21 > 0:28:23I've enjoyed it.

0:28:23 > 0:28:26That is it for Debatable. There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,

0:28:26 > 0:28:29to Rick Edwards, to Jonathan Edwards and Ann Widdecombe! APPLAUSE

0:28:32 > 0:28:33I do hope you've enjoyed watching,

0:28:33 > 0:28:37see you next time for more heated debates. For now, it's goodbye from me!