Jam, Jelly and Juice

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0:00:02 > 0:00:09This programme contains some strong language

0:00:30 > 0:00:31Hello.

0:00:31 > 0:00:33APPLAUSE

0:00:33 > 0:00:36Good evening, good evening, good evening, good evening.

0:00:36 > 0:00:40Welcome to QI, where we are having a veritable chimp's tea party

0:00:40 > 0:00:43with jam, jelly and juice.

0:00:43 > 0:00:48Joining me for my midnight feast, we have the jam-smothered Jo Brand...

0:00:48 > 0:00:51APPLAUSE

0:00:52 > 0:00:56..the jelly-slathered Liza Tarbuck...

0:00:56 > 0:00:58APPLAUSE

0:01:02 > 0:01:04..the juice-bedribbled Sue Perkins...

0:01:10 > 0:01:13..and - don't do that on the floor, please - Alan Davies.

0:01:13 > 0:01:17APPLAUSE

0:01:21 > 0:01:22Well, it's a midnight feast,

0:01:22 > 0:01:25and just in case anyone sees Matron coming,

0:01:25 > 0:01:27I've equipped my pals with buzzers. Jo goes...

0:01:27 > 0:01:30HIGH-PITCHED PARTY HORN BLARES

0:01:30 > 0:01:33- ..Liza goes... - LOWER-PITCHED PARTY HORN BLARES

0:01:33 > 0:01:35- ..Sue goes... - RAUCOUS PARTY HORN BLARES

0:01:35 > 0:01:36..and Alan goes...

0:01:36 > 0:01:39# It's my party and I'll cry if I want to... #

0:01:39 > 0:01:40Party time!

0:01:40 > 0:01:46# You would cry too if it happened to you... #

0:01:46 > 0:01:51And what begins with J and appears to be alive?

0:01:51 > 0:01:52HIGH-PITCHED PARTY HORN BLARES

0:01:52 > 0:01:55Is it me?

0:01:55 > 0:01:59You begin with J, and are most magnificently, radiantly alive.

0:01:59 > 0:02:01He's on the turn.

0:02:01 > 0:02:03- LOWER-PITCHED PARTY HORN BLARES - Liza.- James Blunt.

0:02:03 > 0:02:06- Closer, I grant you. - RAUCOUS PARTY HORN BLARES

0:02:06 > 0:02:09- Yeah?- Jeremy Clarkson.- Oh!

0:02:09 > 0:02:13SIREN ALARM

0:02:17 > 0:02:23This is something that appears to be alive and quite obviously isn't.

0:02:23 > 0:02:26Jedward, then. I'm revising my statement.

0:02:26 > 0:02:30SIREN ALARM

0:02:33 > 0:02:37Oh, Sue, so much work to do!

0:02:38 > 0:02:42Yes, in order to find out if the brain is working, there's a machine that is used by doctors,

0:02:42 > 0:02:45an electroencephalograph.

0:02:45 > 0:02:50You can tell if a brain is alive by attaching it. And there is something that quite manifestly

0:02:50 > 0:02:54isn't alive, but if you attach that same machine to it,

0:02:54 > 0:02:56will give off the same signals as a brain.

0:02:56 > 0:02:58Is it jelly?

0:02:58 > 0:03:00- Yes.- Fucking hell!

0:03:01 > 0:03:06LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:03:06 > 0:03:11I can't quite believe how intelligent I am sometimes.

0:03:11 > 0:03:12- I know...- How did I get that?

0:03:12 > 0:03:13It was wonderful.

0:03:13 > 0:03:17You're a genius. Is it any type of jelly, or is it...?

0:03:19 > 0:03:22Sort of large jelly in a mould on which you could fit the electrodes of an EEG.

0:03:22 > 0:03:26- That kind of jelly, right. - From its EEG results alone,

0:03:26 > 0:03:28it would not qualify as sufficiently dead

0:03:28 > 0:03:30to have its life support removed.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32That's the point. I know that seems insane.

0:03:32 > 0:03:35All the other jellies sitting round the bedside weeping!

0:03:35 > 0:03:37- Yes! - LAUGHTER

0:03:37 > 0:03:41"He's still alive, he's still alive! You can't turn it off!"

0:03:41 > 0:03:44Comforting one another. There's one outside having a fag...

0:03:44 > 0:03:47"One wobble for yes, two wobbles for no!"

0:03:48 > 0:03:52Neurologist Edwin Upton examined the electroencephalography

0:03:52 > 0:03:54of gelatine desserts, as he put it,

0:03:54 > 0:03:56to make a serious point about brain death.

0:03:56 > 0:03:58Because what happens is,

0:03:58 > 0:04:02the jelly picks up extraneous electrical signals in the room

0:04:02 > 0:04:05from sources like respirators, IV drips, even ringing telephones.

0:04:05 > 0:04:07The implication is that a brain

0:04:07 > 0:04:11apparently generating similar signals may in fact be quite dead.

0:04:11 > 0:04:14On the other hand, it may well be quite alive.

0:04:14 > 0:04:17It isn't enough to use an EEG to tell whether someone's alive.

0:04:17 > 0:04:20- A jelly is always wobbling just a little bit.- It's always wobbling a little bit.

0:04:20 > 0:04:22But it is rather extraordinary,

0:04:22 > 0:04:25an amazing thought - at least, I think it is.

0:04:25 > 0:04:26Lovely thought.

0:04:26 > 0:04:30It doesn't mean EEGs are useless, they just have to be considered with other things

0:04:30 > 0:04:33to suggest whether or not someone is conscious or alive.

0:04:33 > 0:04:35Is that an excitable jelly that's suddenly flatlined?

0:04:37 > 0:04:39That's probably enough jelly for the moment.

0:04:39 > 0:04:40There may be more, you never know.

0:04:40 > 0:04:43Jelly's made from boiled-up pigskin.

0:04:43 > 0:04:46Name as many uses for a pig as you can.

0:04:47 > 0:04:49- Erm...- Bacon. - HIGH-PITCHED PARTY HORN BLARES

0:04:49 > 0:04:51- Bacon is one.- Truffle snuffling.

0:04:51 > 0:04:54SUE: Medicine stuff? Medicine cases for tablets?

0:04:54 > 0:04:55LIZA: Oh, for women in pregnancy.

0:04:55 > 0:04:59Doesn't it bring on...? For inducing pregnancy.

0:04:59 > 0:05:02- It's pig's hormones.- It does if one runs through your front room.

0:05:06 > 0:05:08"Ah!" Pft!

0:05:09 > 0:05:14- Absolutely staggering, what you can get out of a pig. - Yoghurt.- Yes! I have a list.

0:05:14 > 0:05:19Christien Meindertsma wrote a book called Pig 05049,

0:05:19 > 0:05:21which was an anonymous pig,

0:05:21 > 0:05:24and beyond the obvious foodstuffs,

0:05:24 > 0:05:27she found the different parts of this animal offered the following pork derivatives.

0:05:27 > 0:05:31From the skin alone, safety gloves, cosmetic surgery.

0:05:31 > 0:05:33- Collagen comes from pig skin.- Oh.

0:05:33 > 0:05:37Energy bars, which also have collagen in, low-fat butter,

0:05:37 > 0:05:39chewing gum, X-ray film,

0:05:39 > 0:05:42drug capsules, bread-flour improver, made from pig hair,

0:05:42 > 0:05:44would you believe?

0:05:44 > 0:05:48- Wow.- The skin is also used for tattoo practise.

0:05:48 > 0:05:49And ballistic gelatine.

0:05:49 > 0:05:54That's just the skin. Then there's the internal organs. Pet food...

0:05:54 > 0:05:57Tambourine skins are made from a pig's bladder.

0:05:57 > 0:05:58For the old tambourine.

0:05:58 > 0:06:00I knew those folkies were evil.

0:06:02 > 0:06:06There are many thousands of people who are alive because of a pig's valve from their heart.

0:06:06 > 0:06:09From the bones, cheap wine corks, would you believe?

0:06:09 > 0:06:12Stabilising propellant in bullet-making,

0:06:12 > 0:06:14inkjet paper, concrete,

0:06:14 > 0:06:18match heads, bone china, train brakes, yoghurt,

0:06:18 > 0:06:21- which you correctly mentioned. - What's a train brake? - It's for stopping a train.

0:06:21 > 0:06:24- Like where you go to Scotland for the weekend?- For stopping it.

0:06:24 > 0:06:28Just a trotter out. He just leans forward.

0:06:28 > 0:06:30Fabric softener. Who knew? Beer,

0:06:30 > 0:06:32wine, ice-cream.

0:06:32 > 0:06:36From the fat, biodiesels, soap, shampoos, crayons.

0:06:36 > 0:06:39From the blood, cigarette filters, amazingly,

0:06:39 > 0:06:41toothpaste and paintbrushes.

0:06:41 > 0:06:44Chemical-weapons testing - the ears are used

0:06:44 > 0:06:46in chemical-weapons testing. Don't ask me why.

0:06:49 > 0:06:53I should hasten to add that not all toothpaste and not all yoghurt contain it.

0:06:53 > 0:06:56But if you are a Muslim or Jewish, you've got a problem discovering what's got pig in it.

0:06:56 > 0:07:00- Have your work cut out. - You have your work cut out, like a silhouettist.

0:07:00 > 0:07:04What is Arabica gum, then?

0:07:04 > 0:07:07- Gum Arabic.- Gum Arabic.- Isn't that a tree?- It's a resin from a tree.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10- Thank God, it's the only thing that's not piggy.- It basically is.

0:07:10 > 0:07:13From the Acacia tree, in fact.

0:07:13 > 0:07:17According to Bloomberg, there are 42 major areas of manufacturing

0:07:17 > 0:07:19that entirely rely on pork products.

0:07:20 > 0:07:22It's quite astonishing what one animal can do.

0:07:22 > 0:07:27It's the only farmyard animal, if you discount truffle hunting,

0:07:27 > 0:07:29it is only useful when dead.

0:07:29 > 0:07:34Oh, you say that, you've never gambled with a pig, come on!

0:07:34 > 0:07:37They're terrible gamblers. Poker, blackjack...

0:07:37 > 0:07:40But obviously, ducks and geese and hens lay eggs

0:07:40 > 0:07:43and goats and cows give milk and sheep give...

0:07:43 > 0:07:46- Companionship. Love.- I know they do offer those, it is true.

0:07:46 > 0:07:50My brother's got a pig, and that's very true of that one.

0:07:50 > 0:07:52They are very endearing animals.

0:07:52 > 0:07:56Tell her to be careful, though, because I knew a farmer that had a heart attack

0:07:56 > 0:07:58while he was feeding his pigs, and they ate him.

0:07:58 > 0:07:59Oh, yes, well, I'm afraid...

0:07:59 > 0:08:01You don't want to get into a pen with one

0:08:01 > 0:08:03that's approaching sexual maturity,

0:08:03 > 0:08:05as I know to my cost.

0:08:05 > 0:08:08- Really?- Yes. It's basically like... - How are the piglets?!

0:08:12 > 0:08:14They've got names, Alan! It's like...

0:08:14 > 0:08:16Porky and Perkins!

0:08:20 > 0:08:22Pinky and Perkins!

0:08:25 > 0:08:27It's scary, it's like a pork piano,

0:08:27 > 0:08:29because they breed pigs very long now, cos everyone likes chops.

0:08:29 > 0:08:31So you get incredibly long pigs.

0:08:31 > 0:08:33With a huge row of udders you can see on the sow, can't you?

0:08:33 > 0:08:35And it just runs at you in a sort of matey way.

0:08:35 > 0:08:39- This was obviously the boar, the male.- Yes, she wasn't interested.

0:08:39 > 0:08:41Although I was trying to catch her eye.

0:08:41 > 0:08:43A lovely thought. Anyway, there you are.

0:08:43 > 0:08:49From jelly to jam, what is speech jam?

0:08:49 > 0:08:53Is speech jam that sort of white crust that John McCririck gets...

0:08:53 > 0:08:54SHOUTING AND GROANING

0:08:54 > 0:08:58I actually made myself feel sick.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03We can test out speech jam.

0:09:03 > 0:09:06Is it like a symptom of a psychiatric...

0:09:06 > 0:09:10It's not exactly that, it's a problem that occurs to our ability to, ah, our ability...

0:09:10 > 0:09:12- our ability to speak! - You've been jammed!

0:09:12 > 0:09:17Like that. It stops you from being able to speak properly.

0:09:20 > 0:09:23That is a very good example of what might cause speech jam.

0:09:23 > 0:09:28If you hear your own voice back while you speak, not in real time,

0:09:28 > 0:09:31but only a fifth of a second afterwards,

0:09:31 > 0:09:34it is almost impossible to read out, and we'll do a test.

0:09:34 > 0:09:36Alan, you can be our guinea pig, all right?

0:09:36 > 0:09:39- OK.- You should see some earphones. - Is that why these are here? - Those are earphones.

0:09:39 > 0:09:44Some Japanese people built a handheld device with a directional mic and speaker

0:09:44 > 0:09:49which works as a speech jamming gun. We've made our own one up.

0:09:49 > 0:09:55I am going to give you something to read, and as it's about jams this is Mrs Beeton's Everyday Cookery,

0:09:55 > 0:09:57the classic work.

0:09:57 > 0:09:59And it is her chapter on marmalade and jams.

0:09:59 > 0:10:03All you have to do is start to read in a normal voice and then,

0:10:03 > 0:10:06at some point, we will engage...

0:10:06 > 0:10:09All we'll do is have your own voice repeated back at you

0:10:09 > 0:10:12a fifth of a second afterwards.

0:10:12 > 0:10:16All right. So, start reading in a normal, clear voice...

0:10:16 > 0:10:18about marmalade and jams, OK?

0:10:19 > 0:10:23"Marmalades and jams differ little from each other.

0:10:23 > 0:10:26"They are preserves of half-liquid consistency, made by..."

0:10:26 > 0:10:30- I'm going to squeeze the trigger now.- "..and sometimes part of the rinds with sugar.

0:10:30 > 0:10:33"The term 'marmalade' is applied to those comfitures

0:10:33 > 0:10:35"which are composed of the firmer fruits,

0:10:35 > 0:10:41"as pineapples or the rinds of oranges, whereas jams are made of the more juicy berries,

0:10:41 > 0:10:44- "such as strawberries, raspberries..." - LAUGHTER

0:10:44 > 0:10:49"Jams require the same care and attention in the boiling as marmalade.

0:10:49 > 0:10:50"The slightest degree of burning..."

0:10:50 > 0:10:54APPLAUSE

0:10:54 > 0:10:59- "And if they're not boiled properly, they will not..."- Stop!

0:10:59 > 0:11:01You can stop there. Well done.

0:11:01 > 0:11:04Do you think Alan's a genius and it doesn't work on him?

0:11:04 > 0:11:06Shall we try it on Jo, then?

0:11:08 > 0:11:10I have to say, Alan...

0:11:10 > 0:11:13Did you hear your voice back?

0:11:13 > 0:11:16- Yeah, it's weird.- Oh, really?

0:11:16 > 0:11:20All right. We'll try it with you, Jo. I'm going to start with it on, frankly.

0:11:20 > 0:11:22And just... Just read.

0:11:22 > 0:11:26"Having secured the most important..."

0:11:26 > 0:11:29SHE SPEAKS GIBBERISH

0:11:29 > 0:11:34- Thank God it works for you! - I've got schizophrenia...now!

0:11:36 > 0:11:38It really is amazing. Do you want to try?

0:11:38 > 0:11:41- Yeah!- Honestly, Alan, I'm absolutely staggered,

0:11:41 > 0:11:44cos I tried it this afternoon and I found it impossible.

0:11:44 > 0:11:48I kept trying to hurry up and speak faster to somehow try and beat it.

0:11:48 > 0:11:50I think it's cos I hate cookery!

0:11:50 > 0:11:53- BANGING - Whoa! Hello.

0:11:53 > 0:11:58- Knocked something over? - What's that resting on, Stephen?

0:11:58 > 0:12:02So, if you just start to read normally and then I'll engage. So read...

0:12:02 > 0:12:06- Phew!- "The fruits most fit for preservation in syrup are apricots,

0:12:06 > 0:12:08- "peaches, nectarines..."- And...

0:12:08 > 0:12:13"..apples, greengages, plums of all kinds and pears.

0:12:13 > 0:12:17"As an example, take some apricots - not too ripe..."

0:12:17 > 0:12:21"..make a small slit up its bottom

0:12:21 > 0:12:26"and serve it whole on the end of a butt plug.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29"After being thoroughly dried,

0:12:29 > 0:12:32"they should be stored in airtight tins,"

0:12:32 > 0:12:37and given to really mean people.

0:12:37 > 0:12:40- You made that up! - I didn't. It's all there.

0:12:40 > 0:12:43Mrs Beeton - dirty old thing.

0:12:43 > 0:12:45Now I'm just confused!

0:12:45 > 0:12:46You love it!

0:12:46 > 0:12:49APPLAUSE

0:12:49 > 0:12:52Well, I... Do you want to swap places? You have a go.

0:12:52 > 0:12:56Yeah, I'll have a go. I want to read what happens to Mrs Beeton's butt plug!

0:12:56 > 0:13:00- It's very amusing to read about the butt plug but...- OK, with you now.

0:13:00 > 0:13:02- You got it? Marmalade.- Yep.- OK, go.

0:13:02 > 0:13:05"Marmalades and jams differ little from each other.

0:13:05 > 0:13:07"They are preserves of half-liquid consistency,

0:13:07 > 0:13:12"made by boiling the pulp of fruits, and sometimes part of the rinds, with sugar.

0:13:12 > 0:13:16SLURRING: "The term 'marmalade' is applied to those comfitures

0:13:16 > 0:13:20"which are composed of..."

0:13:20 > 0:13:21LAUGHTER

0:13:21 > 0:13:26"..or pineapple." I sound drunk now!

0:13:26 > 0:13:31"Whereas jams...are made of more juicy berries,

0:13:31 > 0:13:36"such as strawberries, raspberries,

0:13:36 > 0:13:40"currants, mulberries et cetera. Jam..."

0:13:40 > 0:13:43Ow, my head! Where's everyone gone?

0:13:43 > 0:13:45Well done.

0:13:47 > 0:13:50It's quite odd. It's very...

0:13:50 > 0:13:53Very interesting experiment.

0:13:53 > 0:13:57Quite extraordinary, Alan. You didn't seem to stop in your stride at all.

0:13:57 > 0:13:59It did affect you quite noticeably.

0:13:59 > 0:14:03- But does that mean he's really intelligent?- I don't know.

0:14:03 > 0:14:08- I think it might be the other way round.- It is very unusual.

0:14:08 > 0:14:12What it oddly, and counterintuitively, is used for is to help people with stammers.

0:14:12 > 0:14:16- Wow!- You were having your voice delayed...

0:14:16 > 0:14:18I think, maybe, because if you work as an actor,

0:14:18 > 0:14:23you do have to remember to say things when really odd things are happening around you.

0:14:23 > 0:14:26- Maybe that is partly it, yes. - I think that's right, actually.

0:14:26 > 0:14:30- That's why I could do it, cos of radio.- Ah, that could be it. Yes.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33- It makes you feel sick, actually. - It is a horrible feeling.

0:14:33 > 0:14:36There used to be an act called verbal shadowing,

0:14:36 > 0:14:39in which people would basically shadow what someone said.

0:14:39 > 0:14:43- ..said.- As you can do while I'm doing it now.

0:14:43 > 0:14:49Everything I say, you are repeating it just a second after I'm saying it.

0:14:49 > 0:14:51You can do that, as well, can't you?

0:14:51 > 0:14:54While I'm speaking, you can follow what I'm saying

0:14:54 > 0:14:57and predict exactly what it is...

0:14:57 > 0:15:01- ..You're going to say.- Very like the Lord's Prayer at primary school.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07Anyway, it's quite interesting and I was very impressed.

0:15:07 > 0:15:10I thought you would be all over the shop and you were clearest of us all.

0:15:10 > 0:15:13Now, OK, so, from jam to juice.

0:15:13 > 0:15:18I've got jumbo wrists and I'm covered in tit juice. What have I been up to?

0:15:18 > 0:15:20HIGH-PITCHED PARTY HORN BLARES

0:15:20 > 0:15:23You've changed!

0:15:23 > 0:15:28Is it a night out with Tarbuck and Perkins?

0:15:28 > 0:15:31Jumbo wrists and covered in tit juice.

0:15:31 > 0:15:33Sounds like a milk maid to me.

0:15:33 > 0:15:37Do you mean tit juice as in bosoms or as in a bird?

0:15:37 > 0:15:38Nor, indeed... Neither.

0:15:38 > 0:15:40It's an occupational hazard.

0:15:40 > 0:15:43- Fishing?- Fishing. It's a fisherman's occupational hazard.

0:15:43 > 0:15:46- There is a fishing boat. - There's Lara covered in tit juice.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49- Yeah.- Awash with it. Yeah.

0:15:49 > 0:15:51You get jumbo wrist simply from

0:15:51 > 0:15:53repetitive strain injury from gutting the fish.

0:15:53 > 0:15:56But tit juice conjunctivitis, to give its proper name,

0:15:56 > 0:16:00is the acute swelling of the eyes caused by the juice of tits -

0:16:00 > 0:16:02which are sometimes called duffs,

0:16:02 > 0:16:04but tits is the most common name -

0:16:04 > 0:16:07which are described in the Ship Captain's Medical Guide as

0:16:07 > 0:16:11"marine growths that look like suet dumplings with finger-like growths

0:16:11 > 0:16:12"protruding from them."

0:16:12 > 0:16:15When they get caught in fishing nets, they explode,

0:16:15 > 0:16:18releasing millions of tiny silicon needles,

0:16:18 > 0:16:21which go into the fisherman's eyes.

0:16:21 > 0:16:24- Oh, God.- So that's what causes the swelling.

0:16:24 > 0:16:27Is this sort of stuff just generally in lakes and oceans?

0:16:27 > 0:16:30Well, if you work every day amongst fish,

0:16:30 > 0:16:33there's all kinds of stuff on there aside from the fish you're trying to catch.

0:16:33 > 0:16:37For example, there's a thing called Dogger Bank itch.

0:16:37 > 0:16:39SUE: I'm guilty as charged!

0:16:41 > 0:16:43- You do, don't you? - You got Dogger Bank there!

0:16:43 > 0:16:46All I said was...!

0:16:46 > 0:16:48You can also get haddock rash.

0:16:48 > 0:16:50- Haddock rash? JO:- Why are you looking at me?

0:16:53 > 0:16:57That's an inflammation between the fingers from gutting wet fish.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00I do often take a fish to bed with me, then I can say to my husband,

0:17:00 > 0:17:02"Not tonight, dear, I've got a HADDOCK."

0:17:02 > 0:17:04GROANING

0:17:04 > 0:17:06APPLAUSE

0:17:06 > 0:17:09That's very good.

0:17:09 > 0:17:12It does sound like when you've just given birth as well,

0:17:12 > 0:17:16cos with all those fittings, you do have swollen bits.

0:17:16 > 0:17:19Oh, yes, a lot of women, when they give birth,

0:17:19 > 0:17:22can't take their wedding ring off ever again, can they?

0:17:22 > 0:17:25No, and they're pissed off about it.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27APPLAUSE

0:17:32 > 0:17:35Tit juice conjunctivitis, jumbo wrist and Dogger Bank itch

0:17:35 > 0:17:38are occupational hazards of fishermen.

0:17:38 > 0:17:42What was unique about Fannie Farmer's cup size?

0:17:43 > 0:17:46Is that Fannie Farmer in the Grant Woods...

0:17:46 > 0:17:48That is the Grant Woods famous picture American Gothic.

0:17:48 > 0:17:50That isn't Fannie Farmer. It's just...

0:17:50 > 0:17:54That woman doesn't appear to have a cup size at all.

0:17:54 > 0:17:58It's called American Gothic. It's a famous painting. It's not really the point of our question.

0:17:58 > 0:18:00They're farmers - that's the point. But Fannie Farmer...

0:18:00 > 0:18:04- It sounds like a Viz character! - It does, doesn't it?

0:18:04 > 0:18:07- My great grandmother was called Fanny Binks.- Fanny Binks?

0:18:07 > 0:18:11- Fanny Binks.- Mine was Fanny Carfoot. - Fanny Carfoot?

0:18:11 > 0:18:14Yeah, Fanny Carfoot and Fanny Tarbuck. Two Fannys.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17- A right pair of Fannys. - Right pair of Fannys.

0:18:17 > 0:18:22Is it because Fannie's cup size - one boob is bigger than the other?

0:18:22 > 0:18:25No, it's not that and it's nothing to do with fanny farming being an occupation.

0:18:25 > 0:18:27- Fanny farming?!- Yes.

0:18:29 > 0:18:32I never thought I'd hear him saying that.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35We need to start a campaign now. We need to have a march.

0:18:35 > 0:18:38- Fanny farming next to a mink farm. - It's a nightmare!

0:18:38 > 0:18:42This is a person whose name was Fannie Farmer.

0:18:42 > 0:18:46Was it cup size as in bra or as in size of cup that she drank from?

0:18:46 > 0:18:51- Size of cup that she... Not drank from.- Measuring cup?- Measuring cup.

0:18:51 > 0:18:53She's the mother of the measuring cup.

0:18:53 > 0:18:57Before Fannie Farmer, cookery books were really hopeless.

0:18:57 > 0:18:59They'd say, "Add a jug of milk," and nobody knew how much a jug was.

0:18:59 > 0:19:03"Add a bit of this and a bit of that or half a bit of that and half a bit of this."

0:19:03 > 0:19:06- As you know if you've used an American cookbook...- Bish bosh!

0:19:06 > 0:19:09- Exactly!- Here's Percy Pepper!

0:19:09 > 0:19:13In... In Europe, we use weights,

0:19:13 > 0:19:15which is really dull and stupid.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17Everything has to be weighed. In America,

0:19:17 > 0:19:20they use quantities, so it's cups. So you literally...

0:19:20 > 0:19:22It doesn't matter - as long as the proportion's right...

0:19:22 > 0:19:27So "half a cup of rice" - pour in half a cup of rice. Two cups of water.

0:19:27 > 0:19:30It doesn't matter how big the cup is. The proportion is what matters.

0:19:30 > 0:19:34And she devised a system, whereby one jug is 16 cups

0:19:34 > 0:19:36and you knew exactly how much a teaspoon is.

0:19:36 > 0:19:38And the one thing insisted on,

0:19:38 > 0:19:41so that it could all be made easy, is that it's all level.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45So a cup of sugar is a level cup of sugar, not heaped,

0:19:45 > 0:19:46so that you can't go wrong.

0:19:46 > 0:19:50She made the first kind of error-free cookbooks that everyone could follow.

0:19:50 > 0:19:53They're awful, those early cookbooks. I've looked at some.

0:19:53 > 0:19:57- The ones before her...- Curry or whatever it is, the second one.

0:19:57 > 0:20:00- Eliza Acton and people like that, yes.- It's, "Take a goodly pinch of this..."

0:20:00 > 0:20:03That's precisely what annoyed her - the goodly pinch.

0:20:03 > 0:20:08- It's a lovely phrase but not very helpful.- It's a lovely experience!

0:20:08 > 0:20:09It is.

0:20:10 > 0:20:12Ooh!

0:20:12 > 0:20:15Isn't it great, though, that she's just got fed up

0:20:15 > 0:20:17- and she's just devised...- Yeah,

0:20:17 > 0:20:19and Mrs Beeton, whose book you read out of,

0:20:19 > 0:20:22she died only four years after her book came out. How old was she?

0:20:22 > 0:20:25- She was 29.- 28, in fact, so she wrote it when she was 24.

0:20:25 > 0:20:30- Huge success. Her husband went on to be very successful.- 24?

0:20:30 > 0:20:33- You imagine her to be matronly and...- Yeah.- Yeah.

0:20:33 > 0:20:35Yes, I know, because of the "Mrs", somehow.

0:20:35 > 0:20:39Her husband - he had a magazine called Beeton's Christmas Annual.

0:20:39 > 0:20:43In 1887, it published a story. I wonder if you can name it.

0:20:43 > 0:20:451887 - it wasn't Dickens. It was the very first story

0:20:45 > 0:20:48- featuring a man called Sherlock Holmes.- Oh!

0:20:48 > 0:20:51It was called A Study In Scarlet.

0:20:51 > 0:20:53That was after, sadly, Mrs Beeton had died.

0:20:53 > 0:20:54What did Mrs Beeton die of?

0:20:54 > 0:20:59There's a suggestion - a rumour - that it was syphilis but that sounds most unfortunate

0:20:59 > 0:21:01and we don't like to think of such a thing of such a woman.

0:21:01 > 0:21:04Historical death - if in doubt...

0:21:04 > 0:21:06Isabella Beeton. Anyway...

0:21:06 > 0:21:09Describe Marie Antoinette's breast cups.

0:21:09 > 0:21:13Oh, yes, I know the answer to this, cos I've seen one.

0:21:13 > 0:21:15Not her bosoms, but...

0:21:15 > 0:21:20They modelled various plates and cups and things

0:21:20 > 0:21:22on breasts, on boobs.

0:21:22 > 0:21:26I hate the word "breasts". Let's just say jugs. Tits.

0:21:26 > 0:21:28- I like titties.- Norks. Do you?

0:21:28 > 0:21:32- You heard it here first! LIZA:- Will you say that again?

0:21:32 > 0:21:34No, as a word - titties.

0:21:34 > 0:21:36"I like titties"!

0:21:36 > 0:21:38- It's official!- It is!

0:21:38 > 0:21:41# In the morning... #

0:21:41 > 0:21:44# I've got a lovely bunch of... #

0:21:44 > 0:21:47I'm rather old-fashioned. Titties. I like titties.

0:21:47 > 0:21:51- One of them had a little nipple, as well.- Absolutely right.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54It was during that phase she had, which was started by Madame de Pompadour,

0:21:54 > 0:21:55which was pretending to be a peasant.

0:21:55 > 0:21:59She lived in the most sophisticated, glittering palace in the world,

0:21:59 > 0:22:03in Versailles, but she liked to pretend to be a milkmaid.

0:22:03 > 0:22:06She had gold churns hanging off her and things like that.

0:22:06 > 0:22:09- This was considered to be incredibly...- That's a massive cow!

0:22:09 > 0:22:13- Look at the size of it!- Or a very small little girl, one or the other.

0:22:13 > 0:22:17Anyway, the great porcelain works of Sevres, in France,

0:22:17 > 0:22:21made for her at the command of King Louis XVI,

0:22:21 > 0:22:25these extraordinary cups, which were like breasts - there you can see the nipple -

0:22:25 > 0:22:28out of which she would drink milk.

0:22:28 > 0:22:30- That's the kind you're talking about.- Yeah.

0:22:30 > 0:22:34They're on display in Petit Trianon, which was her little farmyard,

0:22:34 > 0:22:36her play farmyard,

0:22:36 > 0:22:39and you can buy replicas if you wish to have one in your own house.

0:22:39 > 0:22:41- I'm sure...- I do.

0:22:43 > 0:22:44- I want two!- You know where to go.

0:22:44 > 0:22:47- I want the pair!- You should have a pair, to be honest.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50- A matching pair, ideally.- No-one wants to drink out of a lone boob.

0:22:52 > 0:22:57There is a bra makers who say they can tell what size you are

0:22:57 > 0:23:00just by looking at you.

0:23:00 > 0:23:03Which I think is quite impressive, so I had to go along and find out.

0:23:03 > 0:23:07And they usher you into a room and get you to take everything off. This woman looked at me and went,

0:23:07 > 0:23:11"Hmm, not quite as bad as I'd expected."

0:23:11 > 0:23:13Bloody cheek!

0:23:13 > 0:23:14- What a nerve!- I know.

0:23:14 > 0:23:18I had the same thing, you know, you go down and you have to

0:23:18 > 0:23:20gurge yourself up for these things - you're showing your...

0:23:20 > 0:23:22titties off...

0:23:22 > 0:23:25And this woman's just come in, with three people that she's training,

0:23:25 > 0:23:28gone like that with the curtain, looked at me and went,

0:23:28 > 0:23:30"Can't help you," and shut it again.

0:23:32 > 0:23:33I was like that...

0:23:33 > 0:23:35- Shocking.- Yeah, really was shocking.

0:23:35 > 0:23:38"I'll make you a bra, but I can't help you."

0:23:39 > 0:23:42We don't get this problem from our underpanters, do we?

0:23:42 > 0:23:44We certainly do not.

0:23:45 > 0:23:48Mr Klein will hand over his pants to you

0:23:48 > 0:23:51without any opprobrious comments.

0:23:51 > 0:23:52How extraordinary.

0:23:52 > 0:23:54- The things you girls go through. - Poor us!

0:23:54 > 0:23:57Brr! It's been...

0:24:00 > 0:24:01There are those titties again!

0:24:01 > 0:24:03APPLAUSE

0:24:07 > 0:24:08- LIZA:- "Brr!"

0:24:08 > 0:24:11It's like that awful joke of the man who goes to the doctor and says,

0:24:11 > 0:24:14"I'm obsessed with breasts. I can't do anything about it."

0:24:14 > 0:24:17Doctor says, "I'll do a word-association test - see how bad it is."

0:24:17 > 0:24:20He says, "Newspapers." "Breasts, breasts, breasts!"

0:24:20 > 0:24:23"Why?" "Well, I take The Sun - page three. It's just breasts, breasts."

0:24:23 > 0:24:26"OK, fair enough. Tennis racquets." "Breasts, breasts, breasts!"

0:24:26 > 0:24:30"Why?" "Wimbledon - all those tennis players with their breasts. You see them moving."

0:24:30 > 0:24:34"Oh, God, OK. Windscreen wipers." "Breasts, breasts, breasts!"

0:24:34 > 0:24:36"What?! How can you say that from windscreen wipers?"

0:24:36 > 0:24:39HE SLURPS

0:24:39 > 0:24:41LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:24:46 > 0:24:50Tonight's the night you turn!

0:24:50 > 0:24:52What's the other myth about Marie Antoinette's breasts

0:24:52 > 0:24:54that has persisted to this day?

0:24:54 > 0:24:56To do with another drink.

0:24:56 > 0:24:58- They lived on after her death. - No!- Champagne?

0:24:58 > 0:25:03Champagne comes in either a flute or tulip glass or in a...?

0:25:03 > 0:25:05- In a nipple, kind of... - It's called a coupe.

0:25:05 > 0:25:09And there was this idea that the coupe was based on

0:25:09 > 0:25:12the size and shape of Marie Antoinette's breasts.

0:25:12 > 0:25:16But the standard coupe, it appears, would make her a 36B,

0:25:16 > 0:25:19and paintings show she was likely to be a little bigger than that.

0:25:19 > 0:25:21- I love it that someone's done that research!- Yes.

0:25:21 > 0:25:25You know those fantastic massive china cooking bowls

0:25:25 > 0:25:27that have a lip on the edge of them?

0:25:27 > 0:25:28Oh, yes.

0:25:28 > 0:25:30They're based on my titties.

0:25:30 > 0:25:34- Are they?! - You know an ironing board?

0:25:34 > 0:25:38- They're based on mine.- Oh, stop it! No, no, no, no.

0:25:38 > 0:25:41- I'm saying nothing! - You've all got lovely, lovely...

0:25:41 > 0:25:43I've seen St Paul's!

0:25:46 > 0:25:48APPLAUSE

0:25:52 > 0:25:56Wouldn't it be dull if every street had exactly the same frontage everywhere?

0:25:56 > 0:25:59It would be dull if all girls had the same frontage.

0:25:59 > 0:26:00You've all got lovely frontages.

0:26:00 > 0:26:04Now, some milk. Milk and the fad for dairy was

0:26:04 > 0:26:06very popular amongst French nobles,

0:26:06 > 0:26:09right up until the point when the guillotine cured

0:26:09 > 0:26:10all their problems permanently.

0:26:10 > 0:26:14So, what's the smallest thing that you can milk?

0:26:14 > 0:26:18It's got to be a mammal, hasn't it? Cos only mammals produce milk.

0:26:18 > 0:26:20- That's not strictly true.- Uh-oh!

0:26:20 > 0:26:22- An insect?- It's an insect, yes.

0:26:22 > 0:26:25- Cockroach?- It ruins the lives of thousands.

0:26:25 > 0:26:28- Mosquito?- Not quite as bad as a mosquito, which ruins the lives of millions.

0:26:28 > 0:26:31- Tsetse fly. - Tsetse fly is the right answer.

0:26:31 > 0:26:33The tsetse fly is unique.

0:26:33 > 0:26:35They're very ugly and unpleasant,

0:26:35 > 0:26:37and if you've been bitten by one, it's horrible.

0:26:37 > 0:26:41- It's disgustingly painful. - Have you been bitten by one? - Yes, very painful.

0:26:41 > 0:26:44In Kenya somewhere. Really, really unpleasant.

0:26:44 > 0:26:46Fortunately, I did not get sleeping sickness,

0:26:46 > 0:26:50which kills about 48,000 people a year.

0:26:50 > 0:26:52But this is unique.

0:26:52 > 0:26:55The female fly keeps her eggs and larvae inside her uterus,

0:26:55 > 0:26:58where she makes a liquid rich in fats

0:26:58 > 0:27:00called intrauterine milk.

0:27:00 > 0:27:03She eventually gives birth to one larva at a time,

0:27:03 > 0:27:05so it's genuinely suckled by its mother.

0:27:05 > 0:27:08So, it's sucking from, like, a milk sack?

0:27:08 > 0:27:10Yes, this intrauterine milk.

0:27:10 > 0:27:12Extraordinary, isn't it?

0:27:12 > 0:27:15But otherwise, it's a vicious creature and much unwanted.

0:27:15 > 0:27:19They're also host to a symbiotic bacterium called Wigglesworthia,

0:27:19 > 0:27:23named after, someone called, of course, Jones. No!

0:27:23 > 0:27:25No, Wigglesworth.

0:27:25 > 0:27:27He was an expert on kissing bugs,

0:27:27 > 0:27:31which are blood-sucking insects that kiss you around the mouth and lips - very unpleasant.

0:27:31 > 0:27:36- I've had a few of them.- Ha, yes! They bite humans on the face and lips,

0:27:36 > 0:27:38and as they feed, they also defecate, annoyingly.

0:27:38 > 0:27:41And as they defecate, the parasite inside their faeces causes...

0:27:41 > 0:27:43I've been out with blokes like that.

0:27:43 > 0:27:46- I don't know why you're looking at me!- Not you!

0:27:46 > 0:27:49Causes something called Chagas disease, which is extremely unpleasant.

0:27:49 > 0:27:52- Cheggers?- Not Cheggers, no!

0:27:52 > 0:27:54It makes you strip off.

0:27:54 > 0:27:56It makes you take your clothes off on Channel 5.

0:27:56 > 0:27:58No, it's Chagas, not Cheggers.

0:27:58 > 0:28:00But the Wigglesworthia is interesting

0:28:00 > 0:28:03as it has the smallest genome of any known living thing.

0:28:03 > 0:28:07So it's very important in genetics to discover it as an organism

0:28:07 > 0:28:12to see what the absolute minimum genome necessary is for life.

0:28:12 > 0:28:15We've got some quite small gnomes in our garden, as well.

0:28:15 > 0:28:16No, GENOME... Oh, no...

0:28:16 > 0:28:19You've got the fishing genome,

0:28:19 > 0:28:22crossing-the-bridge genome...

0:28:22 > 0:28:24- The G is silent.- The IT genome!

0:28:26 > 0:28:29What's interesting and might save hundreds of thousands of African lives

0:28:29 > 0:28:33is that, without that particular Wigglesworthia,

0:28:33 > 0:28:34female tsetse flies are sterile.

0:28:34 > 0:28:37So, we could eradicate them as a problem in Africa,

0:28:37 > 0:28:39which would be a good thing.

0:28:39 > 0:28:41Anyway, that's the tsetse fly.

0:28:41 > 0:28:43It's only a centimetre long, not even a mammal,

0:28:43 > 0:28:47but it gives birth to live young, which it feeds on milk.

0:28:47 > 0:28:49It's party-treat time now.

0:28:49 > 0:28:50Isn't this exciting?

0:28:50 > 0:28:53I've got something really interesting for you to try.

0:28:53 > 0:28:55It's powdered Miracle Berry.

0:28:55 > 0:28:58You should have a little cup like this.

0:28:58 > 0:29:03If you instantly put that pill in your cup in your mouth...

0:29:03 > 0:29:06- Promise it's not going to hurt you. - We don't even question!

0:29:06 > 0:29:08- Don't swallow it. - We're just doing it!- "Yes, Stephen!"

0:29:08 > 0:29:11- Please do it, don't swallow it. - "Show me your titties."

0:29:11 > 0:29:14We've been down this road before, mister!

0:29:14 > 0:29:16- It's from fruit.- It's in.

0:29:16 > 0:29:18"Only bite it when you see the whites of the eyes!"

0:29:18 > 0:29:21Don't bite it, don't bite it, just roll it round your mouth and tongue.

0:29:21 > 0:29:25It's quite sweet. It takes a little time to work, but when it does, it's extraordinary.

0:29:25 > 0:29:30- It's like a dead Refresher.- Is my head just going to open like that?

0:29:30 > 0:29:34But just try to do a bit of action on it, just so you can get it to dissolve...

0:29:34 > 0:29:36Spread it all over your tongue.

0:29:36 > 0:29:39It is quite miraculous. It's why it's called the Miracle Fruit - it's rather exciting.

0:29:39 > 0:29:41- I slightly crunched mine. - Don't swallow it.

0:29:41 > 0:29:43SHE CHOKES Why not?!

0:29:43 > 0:29:45Keep it in your mouth.

0:29:45 > 0:29:48There's a good reason, I want for it to cover all of your tongue,

0:29:48 > 0:29:52cos it does something extraordinary to your tongue - that's what you're going to discover. So keep sucking.

0:29:52 > 0:29:55I must remember this speech!

0:29:55 > 0:29:58Can you look away?!

0:30:01 > 0:30:04If you made them swallow...

0:30:04 > 0:30:06"It does something extraordinary to your tongue!

0:30:06 > 0:30:07"Don't swallow it!"

0:30:09 > 0:30:12Do you feel you've more or less coated yourself in it?

0:30:12 > 0:30:15What it does - it gets rid of your tongue's ability

0:30:15 > 0:30:17to detect sour and bitter,

0:30:17 > 0:30:19so I want you to take a bite on this lemon.

0:30:19 > 0:30:22You'll find when you bite on the lemon, it's not exactly sweet,

0:30:22 > 0:30:25but it really takes away 90% of its sourness.

0:30:26 > 0:30:28I'm going in.

0:30:30 > 0:30:32I've done a lot of coating.

0:30:32 > 0:30:33Oh, that's delicious!

0:30:33 > 0:30:35- Extraordinary. - That's good, isn't it?

0:30:35 > 0:30:37None of you has really pulled an "agh" face.

0:30:37 > 0:30:40That's like a really sweet orange.

0:30:40 > 0:30:41Exactly. It's bizarre.

0:30:41 > 0:30:45- I'm going to regret it later.- It is a most extraordinary experience.

0:30:45 > 0:30:48That'll last about half an hour - 20 minutes, half an hour.

0:30:48 > 0:30:51I'm going to have chronic gastritis in 20 minutes.

0:30:51 > 0:30:54It was very popular, this Miracle Fruit.

0:30:54 > 0:30:57They used to have parties where they had a rainbow of different flavours

0:30:57 > 0:31:00that would occur because it takes away

0:31:00 > 0:31:02your ability to taste the bitter or the sour,

0:31:02 > 0:31:03or, indeed, the salt,

0:31:03 > 0:31:06so everything becomes sweet but retains a little of its own flavour.

0:31:06 > 0:31:08- But it does work.- Amazing.

0:31:08 > 0:31:10- It is.- Although it is vitamin C,

0:31:10 > 0:31:13so internally, I'm rebelling.

0:31:14 > 0:31:17Just the fact it might have been slightly healthy!

0:31:17 > 0:31:20A friend of mine used to go and feed the horse

0:31:20 > 0:31:24at the bottom of his garden when he was a kid

0:31:24 > 0:31:27bits of lemon, because it used to make brilliant faces when he...

0:31:29 > 0:31:31- That's just naughty!- It is cruel.

0:31:31 > 0:31:33- That's very naughty. - Very entertaining.

0:31:33 > 0:31:38- I'm going to save mine for later, I'll give one to a friend. - Sure you are(!)

0:31:41 > 0:31:42APPLAUSE

0:31:42 > 0:31:46It's just so bad!

0:31:46 > 0:31:48Makes it taste so much nicer!

0:31:48 > 0:31:51- It's just...- We've witnessed something big tonight!

0:31:51 > 0:31:53- It's all over. - "It tastes lovely for half an hour."

0:31:55 > 0:31:59- LIZA:- "My favourite word is titties!"

0:32:01 > 0:32:05It's not sour any more, is it? Not sour any more.

0:32:05 > 0:32:07You are so bad! Honestly, honestly.

0:32:07 > 0:32:09- SUE:- "It does amazing things to your tongue."

0:32:09 > 0:32:12You are so naughty tonight. I'm very, very disappointed.

0:32:12 > 0:32:15I thought the girls would be well behaved, but I'm just so wrong.

0:32:15 > 0:32:17We are! You said, "Put it in your mouth."

0:32:17 > 0:32:20We just put it in our mouths.

0:32:20 > 0:32:23That's what girls are so good at - it's the innocent, wide-eyed...

0:32:23 > 0:32:26"Ooh, ooh!"

0:32:27 > 0:32:29Ooh. Anyway, Miracle Berries

0:32:29 > 0:32:32have the miraculous property of making sour things taste sweet.

0:32:32 > 0:32:36So, now, which international institution

0:32:36 > 0:32:38had one man and his dog as members?

0:32:38 > 0:32:40That was it?

0:32:40 > 0:32:44- No, they had lots and lots of other members. - But they weren't men, presumably?

0:32:44 > 0:32:46All the others were women. And human.

0:32:46 > 0:32:47The WI?

0:32:47 > 0:32:49Yes, the WI.

0:32:49 > 0:32:51- Really?- And Lassie.

0:32:51 > 0:32:52The WI... It wasn't that particular man -

0:32:52 > 0:32:55this is an example, in case you're stupid,

0:32:55 > 0:32:57of what a man and his dog look like.

0:32:57 > 0:32:59Cos you might not know.

0:32:59 > 0:33:02He's literally blowing smoke up its arse.

0:33:04 > 0:33:08"Bloody dog moved!" "Well, we'll have to use it, we're out of film!"

0:33:11 > 0:33:14When the WI was formed, the nascent WI, this particular man,

0:33:14 > 0:33:17Colonel Richard Stapleton-Cotton, was an enormous fan,

0:33:17 > 0:33:19a great admirer, and so...

0:33:19 > 0:33:23- Popped a frock on! - He and his dog Tinker were both members and paid their annual fees.

0:33:23 > 0:33:25But they were the only males ever to be members.

0:33:25 > 0:33:28Guess which country the WI was started in.

0:33:28 > 0:33:30- Canada.- Yes, good God! How did you do that?

0:33:30 > 0:33:33I'm on a roll, I just know WI stuff! I don't know!

0:33:33 > 0:33:36Started in Canada - absolutely right.

0:33:36 > 0:33:40It was the Women's Department of the Farmers' Institute of South Wentworth,

0:33:40 > 0:33:43with the aim to promote that knowledge of household science which will lead to

0:33:43 > 0:33:45improvement in household architecture,

0:33:45 > 0:33:47with special attention to home sanitation.

0:33:47 > 0:33:50Though then, of course, it broadened its horizons.

0:33:50 > 0:33:53It was said that the WI should be grave and gay, which is nice.

0:33:53 > 0:33:55SUE: Yep, that sounds like me.

0:33:55 > 0:33:58And should explore the world together and learn as much about

0:33:58 > 0:34:02growing roses in your garden or trimming hats as about

0:34:02 > 0:34:04darkest Africa or Bolshevism.

0:34:04 > 0:34:06Which is why they're also famous for

0:34:06 > 0:34:08having lecturers coming to address them.

0:34:08 > 0:34:10They absorbed knowledge.

0:34:10 > 0:34:12And they do an extraordinary amount of charity work.

0:34:12 > 0:34:16They donate 24 million hours of their time

0:34:16 > 0:34:19to community work every year in the UK.

0:34:19 > 0:34:22There's a double J association with the WI,

0:34:22 > 0:34:25as it's our letter J. It's a sort of nickname for them.

0:34:25 > 0:34:28- Jam and Jerusalem.- Jam and Jerusalem. Jerusalem is their anthem

0:34:28 > 0:34:30and jam-making is what people think they do.

0:34:30 > 0:34:34Obviously, their remit is wider, and they were very patriotic during the war -

0:34:34 > 0:34:36did all kinds of things, especially with rabbits.

0:34:36 > 0:34:39"Turning bunnies into bombs" was their slogan,

0:34:39 > 0:34:41as they tried to breed rabbits for food.

0:34:41 > 0:34:44That picture we saw earlier - I wish I'd been born in that time.

0:34:44 > 0:34:47- You like those dowdy hats? - I like those.

0:34:47 > 0:34:49I wouldn't have had to make any effort whatsoever.

0:34:49 > 0:34:53- It looks great.- IN COCKNEY ACCENT: But everybody spoke like that.

0:34:53 > 0:34:55They talk like that all the time.

0:34:55 > 0:34:58Look at those berets. Amazing. They don't look very cheerful,

0:34:58 > 0:35:00and one of them's knitting.

0:35:00 > 0:35:02One-handed, which is really saying something.

0:35:04 > 0:35:05There's Arthur Askey on the end!

0:35:05 > 0:35:10They're voting, "Shall we allow the Colonel and his dog to become members?" And they all voted yes.

0:35:10 > 0:35:12"Who's been felt up by the Colonel?" "I have.

0:35:12 > 0:35:15"Dirty little bugger.

0:35:15 > 0:35:18- "That dog, always sniffing around." - Oh, dear.

0:35:18 > 0:35:22Anyway, Colonel Stapleton-Cotton was his name, and his dog, Tinker.

0:35:22 > 0:35:26They're the only two non-females ever to be admitted to the Women's Institute.

0:35:26 > 0:35:29Can you name a matriarchal society?

0:35:29 > 0:35:30HIGH-PITCHED PARTY HORN

0:35:30 > 0:35:34- Yes?- There's a very small matriarchal society in my house.

0:35:35 > 0:35:38Your family! Yes, well,

0:35:38 > 0:35:40all kinds of claims have been made but most anthropologists

0:35:40 > 0:35:45would say none. In all societies, ultimately men have the power.

0:35:45 > 0:35:48There are certainly matrilineal societies, like Jewish societies.

0:35:48 > 0:35:51I'm Jewish cos my mother is, although my father isn't.

0:35:51 > 0:35:53So your identity goes down your mother's line.

0:35:53 > 0:35:56But essentially, men have the political power in all societies.

0:35:56 > 0:35:58No-one has ever really named one.

0:35:58 > 0:36:02The closest you could get - the Mosuo people, also known as the Na,

0:36:02 > 0:36:05on the China-Tibet border. They don't practise marriage at all.

0:36:05 > 0:36:09What they want to do is they want to put their necklaces on before they put the hat on.

0:36:12 > 0:36:14Well spotted!

0:36:16 > 0:36:19Terrible error!

0:36:19 > 0:36:21I thought this was only in Carry On Up The Khyber

0:36:21 > 0:36:25but there is a tribe of north-east India, called the Khasi.

0:36:25 > 0:36:29There really is! Again, the fathers have no rights or responsibilities

0:36:29 > 0:36:32within their families but they do have the political power.

0:36:32 > 0:36:36- That is...- So is that all? Is having political power absolutely the...

0:36:36 > 0:36:38"Archy" is about power. "Archos" is Greek...

0:36:38 > 0:36:41"Monarchy" is about single power

0:36:41 > 0:36:46and "oligarch" means the power belonging to a few, and so on.

0:36:46 > 0:36:50But it seems that no anthropologist would argue that there is any

0:36:50 > 0:36:51truly matriarchal society.

0:36:51 > 0:36:54- Yet the Spice Girls did such great work on that front!- They did!

0:36:54 > 0:36:58- Never really took off as a movement, did it?- We like power to be shared.

0:36:58 > 0:37:00We wouldn't like power to be in the hands of either one sex...

0:37:00 > 0:37:04WE'D like power to be shared. You're all right!

0:37:04 > 0:37:06I agree! I said "we".

0:37:07 > 0:37:11You can be our leader as long as you confess again that you like titties.

0:37:11 > 0:37:14- I do. I love titties!- A titty-arch?!

0:37:15 > 0:37:18- The man's a titty-arch! - From jam and Jerusalem

0:37:18 > 0:37:23to simply jam now. I can never get enough jam so let's test our taste buds

0:37:23 > 0:37:24with a selection of preserves.

0:37:24 > 0:37:29- What's the main ingredient of fish jam?- I sense a trap!

0:37:30 > 0:37:32I'm just going to walk into it.

0:37:32 > 0:37:37Fish jam is a nickname given by British soldiers to something they really didn't like.

0:37:37 > 0:37:40- Trench foot, or...?- No, the clue is, it was in the Crimean War.

0:37:40 > 0:37:43It was given to them as food in the Crimean War -

0:37:43 > 0:37:45the British Army - and they didn't like it.

0:37:45 > 0:37:49- Like fish paste?- Caviar? - Caviar is the right answer. They didn't like it at all.

0:37:49 > 0:37:54- Well, they didn't put it on blinis with sour cream.- Exactly - they didn't serve it properly.

0:37:54 > 0:37:59- So, that's fish jam. What's the main ingredient of bacon jam?- Ooh!

0:37:59 > 0:38:01Once again...

0:38:01 > 0:38:05This'll be the only thing that doesn't have pig in it.

0:38:05 > 0:38:09It's a new preserve - it's made with smoked bacon, red onion,

0:38:09 > 0:38:13coffee, balsamic vinegar, garlic spice and whisky by a grocer in Walthamstow.

0:38:13 > 0:38:16Or "leftovers" as they're called...

0:38:16 > 0:38:19He said, "We've always sold home-made jam and crispy bacon

0:38:19 > 0:38:22"so we thought we'd put the two together."

0:38:22 > 0:38:25What about Hitler bacon? What's the main ingredient of Hitler bacon?

0:38:26 > 0:38:29Goebbels.

0:38:29 > 0:38:3230% Goebbels, 70% sugar. Er...

0:38:32 > 0:38:35- Hitler...?- Hitlerszalonna is the Hungarian for it.

0:38:35 > 0:38:38It was during the war in Hungary. It was a sort of

0:38:38 > 0:38:43mixed fruit thing - solid, in brick-shaped blocks -

0:38:43 > 0:38:44and you could carve a slice.

0:38:44 > 0:38:47And the derogatory term "Hitler ham" came from the idea -

0:38:47 > 0:38:49correct idea, really -

0:38:49 > 0:38:54that the occupied and allied countries of the axis powers of Germany

0:38:54 > 0:38:58were getting the crap food, while the good food stayed in Germany.

0:38:58 > 0:39:02So it was a sort of derogatory term. I've got something interesting to show you now.

0:39:02 > 0:39:07So, I want you to tell me what it is. Quite simply, what's the name for one of these?

0:39:07 > 0:39:09Well, it's a Toby Jug.

0:39:09 > 0:39:10This is known as a character jug.

0:39:10 > 0:39:13If you want to know what a Toby jug looks like...

0:39:13 > 0:39:14it's that.

0:39:14 > 0:39:18- Wow, isn't that pretty! - A Toby jug is the whole person.

0:39:18 > 0:39:20If it's a head, it's called a character jug.

0:39:20 > 0:39:23But I've got something more interesting, I think,

0:39:23 > 0:39:25which I hope you're going to like.

0:39:25 > 0:39:26It's got water in it.

0:39:26 > 0:39:29All you have to do is drink the water without spilling it.

0:39:29 > 0:39:32It's got holes in it. And so if you lift it...

0:39:32 > 0:39:34SHE SLURPS

0:39:37 > 0:39:40It's got holes in it, so that's not going to work.

0:39:40 > 0:39:43Do you see? No!

0:39:43 > 0:39:46It's gone down my sleeve!

0:39:46 > 0:39:48So you've got to try and work it out.

0:39:48 > 0:39:52Right, I'm going to hollow out this biro and use it as a straw.

0:39:52 > 0:39:54- Like that?- I'm evolving.

0:39:54 > 0:39:57Ah, you're getting there. What are you doing?

0:39:57 > 0:40:00No, don't pour it, cos the water will come up. Look at the handle.

0:40:00 > 0:40:04The handle is connected to the bottom, so if you could suck one of those tubes...

0:40:04 > 0:40:06Cover the holes.

0:40:06 > 0:40:08- The other hole. - And then suck through there.

0:40:08 > 0:40:10But there's a secret hole you've got to cover, too.

0:40:10 > 0:40:13LIZA: Hole there. Get those two.

0:40:13 > 0:40:17Look under the handle, look under the top of the handle.

0:40:17 > 0:40:19- Oh.- There's a hole there.

0:40:19 > 0:40:22If you cover that and the other two holes,

0:40:22 > 0:40:24then you release...

0:40:24 > 0:40:26- JO:- Bit of a palaver.- Yes!

0:40:29 > 0:40:32- Oh, Sue!- Just an electrical hazard waiting...- Go like this.

0:40:32 > 0:40:34That's it - now you can suck it.

0:40:34 > 0:40:36Don't tip it!

0:40:37 > 0:40:39Bollocks!

0:40:39 > 0:40:41APPLAUSE

0:40:44 > 0:40:46Liza got there first.

0:40:46 > 0:40:48- You got the principle straight away. - It's like evolution.

0:40:48 > 0:40:54- Now I know how to do it, I want to have a go.- Couldn't we just have some sandwiches?

0:40:54 > 0:40:57- I've got every hole covered! - No, you haven't.

0:40:57 > 0:41:00Don't drink from the top! You have to suck from... Look.

0:41:00 > 0:41:02- Suck from there.- Show her.

0:41:02 > 0:41:03I'm sucking from there, right?

0:41:03 > 0:41:05I'm sucking from there and holding there.

0:41:05 > 0:41:08- And have you found the other hole? - Yes. JO:- Now suck it.

0:41:08 > 0:41:10No, don't tip it!

0:41:10 > 0:41:12Suck without tipping!

0:41:12 > 0:41:15It's a hollow handle. The point is the handle is hollow.

0:41:15 > 0:41:17It's a wet T-shirt competition!

0:41:17 > 0:41:19If you hand it to me here, I'll try and show you.

0:41:19 > 0:41:23"An awful thing about how to drink and not to spill will try

0:41:23 > 0:41:25"the utmost of your skill."

0:41:25 > 0:41:31And this one says, "To drink and not to spill will try the utmost of your skill." Exactly...

0:41:31 > 0:41:33Mine says, "You're an idiot, Perkins."

0:41:33 > 0:41:37So, this is a hollow... This is hollow, there's water in the bottom,

0:41:37 > 0:41:39it's got a little stop, like a flute

0:41:39 > 0:41:41or a recorder here, so you've got to cover that up,

0:41:41 > 0:41:44and it's got a hole here and a hole here.

0:41:44 > 0:41:47If I do that, I can now just simply suck.

0:41:47 > 0:41:49But it's a little puzzle jug,

0:41:49 > 0:41:52we thought you might have a little fun with it.

0:41:52 > 0:41:55Which brings us to the sticky end of the scores.

0:41:55 > 0:41:57And my word!

0:41:57 > 0:42:01I've never seen anything like it in my all my born puff.

0:42:01 > 0:42:03In last place, with a magisterial...

0:42:03 > 0:42:06She did start with two minus tens in a row,

0:42:06 > 0:42:10so she didn't do that badly after, but she ended with minus 22,

0:42:10 > 0:42:12Sue Perkins!

0:42:12 > 0:42:15APPLAUSE

0:42:20 > 0:42:23And on a highly-creditable minus five, Liza Tarbuck!

0:42:23 > 0:42:27Thank you very much. Thank you. APPLAUSE

0:42:30 > 0:42:33Well! Well, well, well, well, which one, which one, which one?

0:42:33 > 0:42:36One of you got four points. Four whole points.

0:42:36 > 0:42:40- Four plus points.- Please, for the feminists, let it be a lady.

0:42:40 > 0:42:42- It's Jo Brand!- Oh, it is!

0:42:42 > 0:42:45CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:42:45 > 0:42:49Which can only bring us to the astonishing news

0:42:49 > 0:42:53that tonight's winner, with plus 11, is Alan Davies!

0:42:53 > 0:42:56CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:05 > 0:43:09This experiment in women on television has failed!

0:43:09 > 0:43:11Well, we can call him a jammy bugger.

0:43:11 > 0:43:15- I love a jammy bugger.- And that's all from Liza, Sue, Jo, Alan and me.

0:43:15 > 0:43:16Goodnight.

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