0:00:26 > 0:00:29CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:00:31 > 0:00:35Hello, I'm Frank Skinner, and welcome to Room 101, the show where
0:00:35 > 0:00:40three guests battle to banish their bete noires to the notorious vault.
0:00:40 > 0:00:42They'll have to argue their case well because in each round
0:00:42 > 0:00:44only one item can be chosen.
0:00:44 > 0:00:47The final decision is mine. Let's meet this week's guests.
0:00:47 > 0:00:49Joining me tonight are on the money Robert Peston,
0:00:49 > 0:00:53on the funny Bridget Christie and on the Radio One-y Greg James.
0:00:53 > 0:00:55CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:01:01 > 0:01:04OK. Well, let's begin.
0:01:04 > 0:01:08So what is Greg's first choice?
0:01:11 > 0:01:13The Kardashians.
0:01:13 > 0:01:16LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:01:20 > 0:01:21Thank you and goodbye.
0:01:21 > 0:01:23LAUGHTER
0:01:23 > 0:01:27I thought we'd start big. It's hard to know where to start, really.
0:01:27 > 0:01:31I suppose my biggest gripe is not the fact that Kim Kardashian
0:01:31 > 0:01:35has released a book of selfies, called Selfish,
0:01:35 > 0:01:39or that she has released an app game that you can do where you have to go
0:01:39 > 0:01:44from the E-list to the A-list, and that's how you complete the game.
0:01:44 > 0:01:47- That's annoying.- Take it from me, it's a very long game.
0:01:47 > 0:01:49LAUGHTER
0:01:49 > 0:01:53I've given half my life to it.
0:01:53 > 0:01:56So those are two annoying things, but the thing for me is that
0:01:56 > 0:01:59when I was growing up we used to watch rubbish telly and look at
0:01:59 > 0:02:04rubbish reality stars and go, "Oh, they're embarrassing, aren't they?"
0:02:04 > 0:02:05but we didn't want to be them.
0:02:05 > 0:02:08Whereas now, with the Kardashians, people seem to watch it and go,
0:02:08 > 0:02:12"Well, they're idiots, aren't they, but I quite want to be like her?"
0:02:12 > 0:02:15and it feels like there's a lot of particularly young girls
0:02:15 > 0:02:19that want to be like the Kardashian girls,
0:02:19 > 0:02:23and for that reason I'm going to try and put them into Room 101.
0:02:23 > 0:02:27CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:02:30 > 0:02:34The thing is I just think we need better role models, OK,
0:02:34 > 0:02:36so I've actually got a list of role models
0:02:36 > 0:02:38who are better than the Kardashians.
0:02:38 > 0:02:40Would you like to hear the list?
0:02:40 > 0:02:44Well...it's a 29-minute show, you see.
0:02:44 > 0:02:46"A list of better role models than the Kardashians.
0:02:46 > 0:02:50"One - Literally everyone else in the world, apart from murderers,
0:02:50 > 0:02:53"but even then you can argue at least they have done something
0:02:53 > 0:02:55"and have some skills."
0:02:55 > 0:02:58LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:03:00 > 0:03:02That's kind of as far as I got really.
0:03:02 > 0:03:05You see, my view on the Kardashians is, in a way,
0:03:05 > 0:03:08they are the people's champions because they think people...
0:03:08 > 0:03:12AUDIENCE BOOS
0:03:12 > 0:03:15Just hear me out!
0:03:15 > 0:03:18I think they are a rallying point for people
0:03:18 > 0:03:23who are sick of the talented hogging the limelight all the time.
0:03:24 > 0:03:27I think people look at the Kardashians and think,
0:03:27 > 0:03:29"You know if I was famous, that's what I'd be like.
0:03:29 > 0:03:32"I would just live it up, spend loads of money,
0:03:32 > 0:03:35"and, you know, not worry about stuff"
0:03:35 > 0:03:39and I can't help having a certain amount of affection for them.
0:03:39 > 0:03:42I think that they've made an awful lot of money,
0:03:42 > 0:03:46and they're incredibly famous, and a lot of people would be
0:03:46 > 0:03:51inspired by their business acumen, and the way that they've been
0:03:51 > 0:03:55- able to create something out of literally nothing.- Yes.
0:03:55 > 0:04:00I think they do fill an incredibly useful function,
0:04:00 > 0:04:03cos the reaction of everybody here
0:04:03 > 0:04:07is that everybody here feels better than them
0:04:07 > 0:04:10and it just makes everybody feel good about themselves.
0:04:10 > 0:04:12So they do...
0:04:12 > 0:04:14APPLAUSE
0:04:14 > 0:04:16I think they perform an incredibly useful function in that sense.
0:04:16 > 0:04:20- Interesting.- They are really unpopular in here, aren't they?
0:04:20 > 0:04:23Not with me!
0:04:23 > 0:04:26Well, in case people here have never seen the Kardashians,
0:04:26 > 0:04:28and wonder what the hell we're talking about,
0:04:28 > 0:04:31let's have a look at Keeping Up With the Kardashians.
0:04:31 > 0:04:33I love this. I'm really into belts.
0:04:33 > 0:04:36- Do you like that with the circle, or not?- Yeah.
0:04:36 > 0:04:38I love this. I have to get this.
0:04:38 > 0:04:42- That, I love.- She really knows how to shop, huh?- I know.
0:04:42 > 0:04:44Whenever I shop with Kim I always get super-nervous,
0:04:44 > 0:04:46cos she buys, like, everything in sight.
0:04:46 > 0:04:51Your total is 19,723. That's after your discount.
0:04:51 > 0:04:54- 19,000?- Mmm-hmm.
0:04:54 > 0:04:56Kim's always had a shopping problem.
0:04:56 > 0:04:59It's just escalated as she's made more money.
0:04:59 > 0:05:01LAUGHTER
0:05:01 > 0:05:03OK, can I completely...
0:05:03 > 0:05:06I hate them now.
0:05:06 > 0:05:09LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:05:11 > 0:05:14What I like, though, is the way you see something happening
0:05:14 > 0:05:18on Keeping Up With the Kardashians, and then it cuts away
0:05:18 > 0:05:21to one of the Kardashians telling you what just happened.
0:05:22 > 0:05:25She's famous for her behind,
0:05:25 > 0:05:28and she's done a whole lot of selfies of her bum
0:05:28 > 0:05:29which she calls "belfies".
0:05:31 > 0:05:33So here's one of her belfies.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35So that's the standard thing.
0:05:35 > 0:05:39But the most famous one is the picture where she...
0:05:39 > 0:05:41before it went out, she said,
0:05:41 > 0:05:44"I've done a picture which is going to break the Internet."
0:05:44 > 0:05:46That's how confident she is.
0:05:46 > 0:05:50And we've probably all seen this picture and she was right.
0:05:50 > 0:05:53It was absolutely everywhere, this picture.
0:05:53 > 0:05:57She's actually officially classified now as a centaur.
0:05:57 > 0:06:00LAUGHTER
0:06:00 > 0:06:02Can I give you some quotes from the Kardashians?
0:06:02 > 0:06:06This might win you over. This is from Kim Kardashian.
0:06:11 > 0:06:13LAUGHTER
0:06:13 > 0:06:17- Come on, that's a good line. - That's a great line.- Kim again.
0:06:21 > 0:06:23LAUGHTER
0:06:23 > 0:06:27Now, there's something wonderful about the openness of that.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30I once saw Peter Stringfellow on a television programme
0:06:30 > 0:06:33and he was going out with a 17-year-old woman
0:06:33 > 0:06:36and there was woman in the audience asked him, she said,
0:06:36 > 0:06:38"What do you even find to talk about?"
0:06:38 > 0:06:40And he said,
0:06:40 > 0:06:43"Oh, well, I'm quite lucky like that because I'm very shallow."
0:06:43 > 0:06:45LAUGHTER
0:06:45 > 0:06:47I thought there was something very admirable
0:06:47 > 0:06:49about that level of honesty.
0:06:49 > 0:06:50Peter Stringfellow?
0:06:50 > 0:06:54He looks like a cross between Nosferatu and Carol Thatcher.
0:06:54 > 0:06:57LAUGHTER
0:06:57 > 0:06:59OK, Bridget, what's your choice?
0:07:04 > 0:07:06Babies.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08AUDIENCE GASPS AND LAUGHS
0:07:08 > 0:07:11SPORADIC APPLAUSE AND BOOS
0:07:11 > 0:07:13All right, calm down!
0:07:13 > 0:07:15Yeah, the Kardashians have babies, you know.
0:07:15 > 0:07:19You didn't mind those going in the room.
0:07:19 > 0:07:21Well, OK. So obviously they're very cute.
0:07:21 > 0:07:25If they weren't cute, the human race would have died out
0:07:25 > 0:07:29a long time ago, because early humans would have gone,
0:07:29 > 0:07:35"OK, I've done three days now. I'm out. That's enough."
0:07:35 > 0:07:37I just think they're overrated.
0:07:37 > 0:07:39LAUGHTER
0:07:39 > 0:07:44I think that they contribute the least to society,
0:07:44 > 0:07:49but they are the most worshiped and revered people on earth.
0:07:49 > 0:07:53After the Kardashians.
0:07:53 > 0:07:54They create chaos.
0:07:54 > 0:07:59If you replaced any of us with a baby there would be chaos,
0:07:59 > 0:08:02or a pilot, or a bus driver, or...
0:08:04 > 0:08:06You can't argue with that.
0:08:06 > 0:08:08LAUGHTER
0:08:08 > 0:08:11I'm not saying I hate... I'm not a monster.
0:08:11 > 0:08:14I'm just saying that they should make a bit more of an effort.
0:08:14 > 0:08:17LAUGHTER
0:08:17 > 0:08:21There is a problem, which is of course they do get worse.
0:08:21 > 0:08:22I know.
0:08:22 > 0:08:25As they get older, they eat you out of house and home.
0:08:25 > 0:08:28- You know, they...- They're rude. - You never know where they are.
0:08:28 > 0:08:30They're unbelievably rude, as you say.
0:08:30 > 0:08:34I mean I don't know why are you singling out babies?
0:08:34 > 0:08:37Why not just, you know, all kids, or all people?
0:08:37 > 0:08:41Because babies are literally useless.
0:08:41 > 0:08:43LAUGHTER
0:08:43 > 0:08:47Have you lived with a 13-year-old boy?
0:08:47 > 0:08:50LAUGHTER
0:08:51 > 0:08:54Look, it was a very long time ago.
0:08:54 > 0:08:57This has become a witch-hunt!
0:08:58 > 0:09:01And the noise that they make, the sort of "wah-wah".
0:09:01 > 0:09:05I'm surprised that that hasn't changed over...
0:09:05 > 0:09:07LAUGHTER
0:09:09 > 0:09:10Yes.
0:09:10 > 0:09:14- Crying, you mean?- Yeah, but can't it be something else?
0:09:15 > 0:09:18I'm not saying that they should be born talking.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20No? That would be more fun, wouldn't it?
0:09:20 > 0:09:23What if they talked before?
0:09:23 > 0:09:26You could hear a little voice saying, "What, chilli again?!
0:09:28 > 0:09:31"Any more spicy food, I'm going breach!"
0:09:33 > 0:09:35No, I like that. It would help during the birth as well.
0:09:35 > 0:09:38It would be like the Chuckle Brothers - "To me, to you."
0:09:38 > 0:09:39LAUGHTER
0:09:39 > 0:09:44I have a clip of two babies sort of talking, which I think is brilliant.
0:09:46 > 0:09:49THEY JABBER AT EACH OTHER
0:10:05 > 0:10:06APPLAUSE
0:10:06 > 0:10:09But they're toddlers.
0:10:11 > 0:10:13- They're toddlers. - Well, they've got nappies on.
0:10:13 > 0:10:15They were standing up and they're toddling.
0:10:15 > 0:10:18They're wearing the national costume of the baby.
0:10:20 > 0:10:24- Since my son has started talking, I sleep with a baby monitor.- Yeah.
0:10:24 > 0:10:26And he used to just cry in the morning, when he was a baby,
0:10:26 > 0:10:29and I'd think, "Oh, it's time to go down, you know, and get him",
0:10:29 > 0:10:31and now he calls out.
0:10:31 > 0:10:34He'll go, "It's daytime! It's daytime!"
0:10:34 > 0:10:38I think it's God telling me about the next phase of my TV career.
0:10:38 > 0:10:40LAUGHTER
0:10:41 > 0:10:43What I remember...
0:10:43 > 0:10:47We're a member of an NCT group, which is a group you go to,
0:10:47 > 0:10:48I don't know if you know about this,
0:10:48 > 0:10:50when you're learning about having a baby.
0:10:50 > 0:10:53All the couples go, all the pregnant women and the dads
0:10:53 > 0:10:56and we all had our babies, and then there was a new group coming,
0:10:56 > 0:10:58and they were all pregnant
0:10:58 > 0:11:00and we were going to meet them for the first time.
0:11:00 > 0:11:02And I remember we got together and said,
0:11:02 > 0:11:05"Look, are we going to tell them the truth?"
0:11:05 > 0:11:06LAUGHTER
0:11:06 > 0:11:08You can't.
0:11:08 > 0:11:11You have to keep it back, otherwise no-one would ever have children.
0:11:11 > 0:11:15I live in quite a middle-class area, and, sort of,
0:11:15 > 0:11:18other mothers will kind of judge you, you know, if your baby
0:11:18 > 0:11:21has got a dummy in its mouth, you know, or a cigarette or something.
0:11:21 > 0:11:25- It's just really judgmental, you know.- And other people's...
0:11:25 > 0:11:28- Oh!- They're boring.
0:11:28 > 0:11:33Other people's babies are boring. It's like conversation.
0:11:33 > 0:11:37Other people's conversation - extremely tedious.
0:11:37 > 0:11:40Your own - amazing.
0:11:40 > 0:11:43My lowest ebb... My son is three years old, right?
0:11:43 > 0:11:47I came down from Birmingham, moved to London to seek fame and fortune.
0:11:47 > 0:11:51I said to my son, "Nanny Sandra is coming round next week"
0:11:51 > 0:11:55and he said, "Nanny S-aa-ndra".
0:11:55 > 0:11:57LAUGHTER
0:11:57 > 0:12:00- Did he really? - He honestly said that.
0:12:02 > 0:12:07Just to balance this, let's have a look at a bit of brotherly love.
0:12:07 > 0:12:10It's a little boy playing with his little baby brother
0:12:10 > 0:12:14just to remind us that babies can be a beautiful thing.
0:12:14 > 0:12:17Ba-ba-ba!
0:12:17 > 0:12:19Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba!
0:12:19 > 0:12:21Ba-ba-ba-b...
0:12:21 > 0:12:23Eurgh!
0:12:25 > 0:12:28LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:12:31 > 0:12:34I had forgotten about the joy of projectile vomiting, actually.
0:12:34 > 0:12:37That is a joy. It is a joy.
0:12:37 > 0:12:39Anyway, Robert, what's winding you up?
0:12:43 > 0:12:45So...
0:12:45 > 0:12:48LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:12:51 > 0:12:54So it's the Devil's own material.
0:12:54 > 0:12:58Lycra or Spandex, as it's known in some quarters,
0:12:58 > 0:13:05and plainly what I loathe most about it is
0:13:05 > 0:13:09when it's worn by people of my age on bicycles.
0:13:09 > 0:13:13It's a particularly terrifying prospect.
0:13:13 > 0:13:16But actually I hate it in all its forms.
0:13:16 > 0:13:18I mean, it seems to me, we're talking about babies,
0:13:18 > 0:13:23but I think...shouldn't be allowed to wear those sort of Lycra Speedos
0:13:23 > 0:13:26when you're over five.
0:13:26 > 0:13:30- I think anybody over five looks utterly ridiculous.- Five?
0:13:30 > 0:13:34Are you down the lido, going, "He's six. Get them off.
0:13:34 > 0:13:36"You look stupid?"
0:13:36 > 0:13:38I think athletes that wear...
0:13:38 > 0:13:42It's also like a form of sort of drug cheating.
0:13:42 > 0:13:46I mean, why can't athletes just wear some baggy shorts?
0:13:46 > 0:13:48You know, they all wear all this sort of clingy stuff.
0:13:48 > 0:13:50Why is that technology all right
0:13:50 > 0:13:55- but, you know, taking steroids is wrong? It's all...- A very good case.
0:13:55 > 0:13:57It's all performance-enhancing stuff, isn't it?
0:13:57 > 0:13:59I'd like to see Lycra testing.
0:13:59 > 0:14:02LAUGHTER
0:14:02 > 0:14:04And then there's disco. Right?
0:14:04 > 0:14:08I mean, you know, I'm a great disco fan, but disco pants?
0:14:08 > 0:14:11No, no, no. Disco hot pants? No.
0:14:11 > 0:14:14These are crimes against good taste.
0:14:14 > 0:14:16- What do you wear at the disco, then? - Me?- Yeah.
0:14:16 > 0:14:21Oh, I just wear a sort of spangly suit with a frilly shirt.
0:14:21 > 0:14:23LAUGHTER
0:14:23 > 0:14:25What do you swim in, Robert?
0:14:25 > 0:14:29- Baggy shorts.- Baggy shorts? - Yeah. Is that wrong?
0:14:29 > 0:14:32- They could come off. - They don't tend to.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35Are you the sort of person that sits in the Jacuzzi and likes them
0:14:35 > 0:14:37when they blow up?
0:14:37 > 0:14:39LAUGHTER
0:14:39 > 0:14:42- That is good. - Funny you should say that.- Yeah.
0:14:42 > 0:14:45I've got you marked.
0:14:45 > 0:14:46I think if I had a better body
0:14:46 > 0:14:49I probably would be happy to wear Lycra.
0:14:49 > 0:14:53That's the bottom line. If I wear Lycra I look like a reptile.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56LAUGHTER
0:14:56 > 0:15:01I wear a tie because my throat needs to be tethered now...
0:15:01 > 0:15:03LAUGHTER
0:15:03 > 0:15:06..cos in a strong draught it will actually move.
0:15:09 > 0:15:12Can I ask you a question? Would you be prepared to wear this?
0:15:13 > 0:15:15Er, no.
0:15:15 > 0:15:18These are commercially available on the Internet.
0:15:18 > 0:15:20The Robert Peston T-shirt.
0:15:20 > 0:15:22- This is your old look. - It is the old look.
0:15:22 > 0:15:25And what I love about this is the seller says,
0:15:25 > 0:15:29"It's a high-quality garment featuring..." You'll like this.
0:15:29 > 0:15:31"..the BBC's face of the recession".
0:15:31 > 0:15:34LAUGHTER
0:15:36 > 0:15:39APPLAUSE
0:15:39 > 0:15:42Anyway, you've all argued incredibly well.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- I don't feel, Bridget, I can put babies in.- No.
0:15:45 > 0:15:49They have their downside. There's no doubt about that.
0:15:49 > 0:15:50They can...
0:15:50 > 0:15:53Well, I don't think it would be too much to say they can ruin your life.
0:15:53 > 0:15:55LAUGHTER
0:15:55 > 0:15:59But they are also sort of what we need to continue,
0:15:59 > 0:16:01so I think we're kind of stuck with them.
0:16:01 > 0:16:05The Kardashians. I think the fact that you...
0:16:05 > 0:16:08AUDIENCE CHEERS
0:16:08 > 0:16:10APPLAUSE
0:16:12 > 0:16:13I love the British public
0:16:13 > 0:16:17but I wouldn't trust them with a capital punishment referendum.
0:16:17 > 0:16:19LAUGHTER
0:16:19 > 0:16:22I've always thought the more people that say something
0:16:22 > 0:16:24the more chance it is to be wrong
0:16:24 > 0:16:27so I'm not going with the Kardashians.
0:16:27 > 0:16:29AUDIENCE BOOS
0:16:29 > 0:16:32I never said this was a democracy.
0:16:32 > 0:16:35I don't know where you got that crazy idea from.
0:16:35 > 0:16:38But Lycra, I think it probably is true that Lycra
0:16:38 > 0:16:43is made for people with really good bodies and I hate them
0:16:43 > 0:16:46so I'm going to put Lycra into Room 101.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49APPLAUSE
0:16:56 > 0:16:59OK.
0:16:59 > 0:17:01So, what's Bridget's choice?
0:17:04 > 0:17:07People's sense of entitlement.
0:17:07 > 0:17:09CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:17:13 > 0:17:15It seems to me that when I'm out,
0:17:15 > 0:17:18say, for example, I'm driving my car.
0:17:18 > 0:17:21People walk out in front of me all the time and I have to slam
0:17:21 > 0:17:24the brakes on, and they look at me,
0:17:24 > 0:17:30and they're so angry that I'm driving my car on the road,
0:17:30 > 0:17:33which is where it's supposed to be.
0:17:33 > 0:17:36People are rude. I picked up a phone.
0:17:36 > 0:17:41I was in a cafe and I was sat back-to-back with a woman like this,
0:17:41 > 0:17:44and she dropped her phone, so I picked her phone up.
0:17:44 > 0:17:46It was under my chair, and I turned round and went,
0:17:46 > 0:17:50"Oh, excuse me, you've dropped your phone", and she just went like that.
0:17:50 > 0:17:53She didn't even turn around and make eye contact.
0:17:53 > 0:17:59She just put her hand like that for me to put the phone into her hand.
0:17:59 > 0:18:02I think people have a general sense of narcissistic entitlement,
0:18:02 > 0:18:06where I think technology, credit, everything,
0:18:06 > 0:18:08we don't wait for anything any more.
0:18:08 > 0:18:10We can have whatever we want all the time,
0:18:10 > 0:18:14so we just expect everything all the time.
0:18:14 > 0:18:17We expect to be able to walk out into the road
0:18:17 > 0:18:19and nearly cause an accident.
0:18:19 > 0:18:22I blame the Kardashians.
0:18:22 > 0:18:24I think it's because they know,
0:18:24 > 0:18:28they've finally worked out that motorists will not drive
0:18:28 > 0:18:30straight at them if they're standing in the road.
0:18:30 > 0:18:32That was a sad day when they worked that out.
0:18:32 > 0:18:34LAUGHTER
0:18:34 > 0:18:39The general thesis I completely accept,
0:18:39 > 0:18:43but you're absolutely sure you're not a shockingly bad driver?
0:18:44 > 0:18:47It seems to happen a lot to you.
0:18:47 > 0:18:50No, I mean I drive very fast. No.
0:18:51 > 0:18:54Well, look, I am very obedient by nature.
0:18:54 > 0:18:57I don't think I have ever eaten an After Eight mint
0:18:57 > 0:18:59before eight o'clock.
0:18:59 > 0:19:01LAUGHTER
0:19:01 > 0:19:04It brings out the worst in me, though, all this sort of behaviour.
0:19:04 > 0:19:06Do you ever fantasise?
0:19:06 > 0:19:09Do you ever have the harpoon fantasy, where you see
0:19:09 > 0:19:12someone doing something bad and you fire a harpoon?
0:19:12 > 0:19:15So you get the "KRRRRR"! It goes into their back,
0:19:15 > 0:19:19and then you're able to reel them in for an informative debriefing.
0:19:21 > 0:19:25That's my thing. Let's see what is angering Robert.
0:19:28 > 0:19:31So...
0:19:31 > 0:19:33APPLAUSE
0:19:34 > 0:19:39So managers have been responsible for one or two minor crimes.
0:19:39 > 0:19:43Mis-selling billions of insurance to us,
0:19:43 > 0:19:46bankrupting the banks and the economy, but perhaps more
0:19:46 > 0:19:49than anything murdering the English language is what gets me.
0:19:51 > 0:19:54So, it's a mixture of things.
0:19:54 > 0:19:57It's sort of pretending to say something meaningful
0:19:57 > 0:20:00when actually they're saying something meaningless.
0:20:00 > 0:20:05It's prefacing an expression with a phrase like "going forward".
0:20:05 > 0:20:07"Going forward, we will do something."
0:20:07 > 0:20:08You don't need "going forward".
0:20:08 > 0:20:12You just have to say, "We will be doing something or other".
0:20:12 > 0:20:15And then there are all these sort of weird sort of metaphors,
0:20:15 > 0:20:18often taken from technology.
0:20:18 > 0:20:24"So let's take this offline and then drill down
0:20:24 > 0:20:29"and we'll kick this whole thing out of the ballpark."
0:20:29 > 0:20:32I mean, total meaningless nonsense.
0:20:32 > 0:20:36The more jargon that they use, normally associated with
0:20:36 > 0:20:40the sort of less intelligence that they actually have
0:20:40 > 0:20:44and then I suppose the other side of it, which I dislike intensely,
0:20:44 > 0:20:51it's the disguising of really quite bad things in language which is
0:20:51 > 0:20:55meant to sort of make it all sound sort of scientific and technocratic.
0:20:55 > 0:20:59So, you know, you've probably come across the expression "downsizing".
0:20:59 > 0:21:01- Mmm.- Means sacking people.
0:21:01 > 0:21:05There's another expression, which is, "Achieving cost synergies".
0:21:05 > 0:21:07That's sacking people again.
0:21:07 > 0:21:10- I have to say, I love it.- Do you?
0:21:10 > 0:21:14Isn't it great that the language is constantly growing and developing?
0:21:14 > 0:21:17It's not, though. These are meaningless phrases.
0:21:17 > 0:21:21What does "forward planning" mean? It just means planning.
0:21:21 > 0:21:24- It's like mega-planning. - I think that's all right?- Do you?
0:21:24 > 0:21:27Like, you know, when I knew you were going to do this topic,
0:21:27 > 0:21:29I was looking forward to it,
0:21:29 > 0:21:32and hoping it wasn't going to be anticipointment...
0:21:32 > 0:21:33LAUGHTER
0:21:33 > 0:21:35..and that is an actual word.
0:21:35 > 0:21:37It's when you've been looking forward to something
0:21:37 > 0:21:39and then it doesn't work out.
0:21:39 > 0:21:42This is a management speak word. They call it an anticipointment.
0:21:42 > 0:21:45I like the fact that language is growing.
0:21:45 > 0:21:47You know this thing about people who have their lunch...
0:21:47 > 0:21:49they don't go off.
0:21:49 > 0:21:52They just eat at their desk, and they call it eating al desko.
0:21:52 > 0:21:54LAUGHTER
0:21:54 > 0:21:56It's great. Listen to that. It's beautiful.
0:21:56 > 0:21:58That's humour. That's different.
0:21:58 > 0:22:02We've got some of the management speak that's recently entered
0:22:02 > 0:22:04the Oxford English Dictionary.
0:22:04 > 0:22:06- "Go juice".- What's that?
0:22:06 > 0:22:11Go juice. It can just mean, like, you know, petrol, or fuel,
0:22:11 > 0:22:16or it can be mean that in us which makes us go.
0:22:17 > 0:22:20"We need more go juice in this organisation."
0:22:20 > 0:22:24I love that. See if you can get what these are. Hyper-local.
0:22:24 > 0:22:26- Hyper-local?- Hyper-local.
0:22:26 > 0:22:29- Very local.- Very local.
0:22:29 > 0:22:31Why bother changing that? That's just...
0:22:31 > 0:22:34I like very local, but we've got to be hyper-local.
0:22:34 > 0:22:38- You'd agree that "staycation" is a good word, wouldn't you?- No.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41- I quite like staycation. - Staycation is good.
0:22:41 > 0:22:44It's also not really management speak. It's just bollocks.
0:22:44 > 0:22:48LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:22:51 > 0:22:54What it means, if I wanted to save on go juice,
0:22:54 > 0:22:56I could have a hyper-local staycation.
0:22:57 > 0:23:00OK. Greg's gripe.
0:23:06 > 0:23:08CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:23:10 > 0:23:14Politicians pretending to be normal
0:23:14 > 0:23:19and I don't believe it, and I don't want them to be bothered with stuff
0:23:19 > 0:23:22that everyone else is bothered with cos they've got too much to do.
0:23:22 > 0:23:25I don't want a politician talking about someone's showstopper
0:23:25 > 0:23:26on the Bake Off.
0:23:26 > 0:23:29I think there's too much to be... The NHS needs to be sorted out.
0:23:29 > 0:23:33Get back to work. Stop watching telly. You've got stuff to do.
0:23:33 > 0:23:36APPLAUSE
0:23:38 > 0:23:41Can I point out that by the time this show goes out
0:23:41 > 0:23:43the NHS might have been sorted out?
0:23:43 > 0:23:45LAUGHTER
0:23:45 > 0:23:50Like David Cameron got caught out supporting the wrong football team.
0:23:50 > 0:23:52We actually have that clip.
0:23:52 > 0:23:56- Right, OK. - So sit back and enjoy, Greg.- Yeah.
0:23:56 > 0:23:58You can support Man United, the Windies
0:23:58 > 0:24:01and Team GB all at the same time.
0:24:01 > 0:24:04Course I'd rather you supported West Ham.
0:24:04 > 0:24:06Um, sorry, I had, er ...
0:24:06 > 0:24:10I had what, um, Natalie would describe as a brain-fade.
0:24:10 > 0:24:13I'm a Villa fan. I don't know what happened to me.
0:24:13 > 0:24:17I must have been overcome by something, er, this morning.
0:24:17 > 0:24:18Um, but there we are.
0:24:18 > 0:24:22These things sometimes happen, when, er...when you're on the stump.
0:24:22 > 0:24:24LAUGHTER
0:24:24 > 0:24:28I must admit, when I'm on the stump I do have some...
0:24:28 > 0:24:31I can't think straight.
0:24:31 > 0:24:33Also, not the first time he's got in trouble over ham.
0:24:33 > 0:24:36CHEERING
0:24:38 > 0:24:41You just don't get your football teams mixed up.
0:24:41 > 0:24:45The worrying thing is they both play in a very similar kit,
0:24:45 > 0:24:47but you wouldn't think,
0:24:47 > 0:24:51"Oh, maybe that's my team. They look a bit like them".
0:24:51 > 0:24:52Yeah, that's the thing.
0:24:52 > 0:24:54Don't pretend about it because you'll get found out
0:24:54 > 0:24:56and it's not that he had a brain fade.
0:24:56 > 0:24:59He just doesn't support either of them. That is the problem.
0:24:59 > 0:25:04Don't you think that the public have slightly brought this on themselves,
0:25:04 > 0:25:10in that they seem to want sort of blokey-type, you know,
0:25:10 > 0:25:14your Nigel Farages and your Borises, blokes that are a bit...
0:25:16 > 0:25:18If the British public completely had their way,
0:25:18 > 0:25:22- don't they really want to vote for Top Gear?- Yeah.
0:25:22 > 0:25:25What about Ed Miliband's kitchen?
0:25:25 > 0:25:28Ed Miliband got interviewed in his.
0:25:28 > 0:25:31We have a picture of the kitchen and there he is.
0:25:31 > 0:25:33Now, that's a very ordinary kitchen,
0:25:33 > 0:25:36like a lot of people have got in their homes.
0:25:36 > 0:25:39Someone then said, "Hold on, I've been to Ed Miliband's house.
0:25:39 > 0:25:42"He's got a much bigger, nicer kitchen than that.
0:25:42 > 0:25:43"It's a lovely kitchen".
0:25:43 > 0:25:45So Ed Miliband said this.
0:25:58 > 0:25:59Throwing in a bit of domestic.
0:25:59 > 0:26:02He's basically saying,
0:26:02 > 0:26:05"We don't eat in the one downstairs cos it's too near to the
0:26:05 > 0:26:07"front door and there's quite a lot of dog excrement coming in.
0:26:07 > 0:26:09"It's not hygienic".
0:26:09 > 0:26:13And it's about time David Miliband just forgave and forgot.
0:26:13 > 0:26:15LAUGHTER
0:26:15 > 0:26:19But, clearly, there's no doubt that they got photographed in the
0:26:19 > 0:26:22little kitchen cos it made them look more humble and normal.
0:26:22 > 0:26:25But if he'd just said, "Guys, I've got a stunt kitchen",
0:26:25 > 0:26:28you'd go, "Great, it sounds brilliant".
0:26:28 > 0:26:31I don't mind the leader of a major political party in this country
0:26:31 > 0:26:33having a nice kitchen.
0:26:33 > 0:26:36- I'm fine with that.- Yeah.
0:26:36 > 0:26:40If we have an example of what seems like a normal person...
0:26:40 > 0:26:41When I say normal,
0:26:41 > 0:26:44obviously you have to be brighter than a lot of people.
0:26:44 > 0:26:47But Mhairi Black, who's the Scottish MP,
0:26:47 > 0:26:52a young woman who got in, in the 2015 election for the SNP,
0:26:52 > 0:26:57as soon as she got in, and everyone loved the fact that this seemingly
0:26:57 > 0:26:59down-to-earth person got in,
0:26:59 > 0:27:03they went straight back all over her social network stuff to find out,
0:27:03 > 0:27:07"God, she actually is an ordinary person. It's an outrage!"
0:27:07 > 0:27:12So, for example, when she was at school, she made this tweet.
0:27:13 > 0:27:15LAUGHTER
0:27:15 > 0:27:19I mean that's just right, isn't it? That's what people think.
0:27:19 > 0:27:22- This one.- Too many asterisks, though.- No, not in Scotland.
0:27:22 > 0:27:24- No.- I suppose you're right.
0:27:24 > 0:27:26- E on the end, don't forget.- Yeah.
0:27:26 > 0:27:28Language always developing, Robert.
0:27:28 > 0:27:31LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:27:33 > 0:27:36And this one. This is an insight into her social life.
0:27:39 > 0:27:42LAUGHTER
0:27:42 > 0:27:45- Like most people of her age, there's nothing...- But that's great.
0:27:45 > 0:27:47Exactly, but people condemn her for that,
0:27:47 > 0:27:49so they don't want you to be ordinary.
0:27:49 > 0:27:53There was one of her messages which I did think was a bit unacceptable.
0:27:57 > 0:27:59LAUGHTER
0:28:01 > 0:28:03I take that personally, but other than that...
0:28:03 > 0:28:05LAUGHTER
0:28:05 > 0:28:08I've got a problem here, cos I'm not going to put in management speak,
0:28:08 > 0:28:10Robert, because I love it so.
0:28:10 > 0:28:14I'm very torn between the other two, because I do wish politicians
0:28:14 > 0:28:17would just be politicians and stop being normal.
0:28:17 > 0:28:22But if we don't stamp on the sense of entitlement thing,
0:28:22 > 0:28:26I feel the whole of society might go into one of those twisty things
0:28:26 > 0:28:30that it does above a plughole and disappear.
0:28:30 > 0:28:31So I am going to have to put
0:28:31 > 0:28:34people's sense of entitlement into Room 101.
0:28:34 > 0:28:37CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:28:44 > 0:28:46And that brings us to the end of the show.
0:28:46 > 0:28:48Well done, Bridget, you were the most persuasive guest,
0:28:48 > 0:28:50so you are this week's winner.
0:28:50 > 0:28:54CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:28:56 > 0:28:59Thanks very much, Bridget Christie, Greg James and Robert Peston,
0:28:59 > 0:29:01and thank you, goodnight.
0:29:01 > 0:29:04CHEERING AND APPLAUSE