Childhood

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04This programme contains strong language.

0:00:04 > 0:00:07- This is this, right?- No, this is trying to be this and failing.

0:00:07 > 0:00:10It's not failing to be this, it's... This is this. THIS is this.

0:00:10 > 0:00:13You know, I've been finding it much harder to know what to write about,

0:00:13 > 0:00:15and I think it's partly cos I don't do anything.

0:00:15 > 0:00:17I just do gigs or look after kids.

0:00:17 > 0:00:20And I don't want to do what all the other comics of my age do,

0:00:20 > 0:00:23which is to just sort of come out and remember their childhood

0:00:23 > 0:00:24in a regional accent.

0:00:24 > 0:00:26LAUGHTER

0:00:28 > 0:00:31Hey, do you remember gripping-hands Action Man?

0:00:32 > 0:00:34And no, I had one of them, gripping-hands Action Man.

0:00:34 > 0:00:36I say gripping-hands, it was the 1970s,

0:00:36 > 0:00:39it was more like wandering-hands Action Man.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44But we mustn't judge Action Man by the values of today.

0:00:44 > 0:00:46LAUGHTER

0:00:46 > 0:00:49Note how my attempt at a parody of generic Live At The Apollo

0:00:49 > 0:00:52nostalgia material is in of itself superior to the real thing.

0:00:54 > 0:00:58But still, the years pass, the call never comes.

0:00:59 > 0:01:00So...

0:01:00 > 0:01:01LAUGHTER

0:01:03 > 0:01:07Well, I'll do some remembering-childhood stuff,

0:01:07 > 0:01:11cos it's sort of a generic thing of stand-up.

0:01:11 > 0:01:14People normally enjoy this, so...

0:01:15 > 0:01:19In 1973,

0:01:19 > 0:01:21when I was five years old...

0:01:22 > 0:01:24..I was...

0:01:24 > 0:01:28I was kicked into a urinal trough

0:01:28 > 0:01:33and I was urinated on at length

0:01:33 > 0:01:37by a boy called Matt Clitheroe,

0:01:37 > 0:01:40and the other boys in my class

0:01:40 > 0:01:42at Brook Street Infant School in Solihull.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45Matt Clitheroe started it, and he was

0:01:45 > 0:01:49urinating on me and laughing, and then he...

0:01:49 > 0:01:53Uh...he called all the other boys over, and they were all

0:01:53 > 0:01:56urinating on me, laughing, and, er...

0:01:58 > 0:02:01I was five, I was a little boy and I was...

0:02:02 > 0:02:07..in a urinal trough, and my eyes were stinging,

0:02:07 > 0:02:10some urine had gone in my mouth.

0:02:12 > 0:02:14And I was...

0:02:14 > 0:02:17all wet and I was frightened as well.

0:02:17 > 0:02:19But I have to admit,

0:02:19 > 0:02:22looking back, if I'm honest,

0:02:22 > 0:02:24on some level,

0:02:24 > 0:02:26I did enjoy the experience.

0:02:26 > 0:02:28LAUGHTER

0:02:33 > 0:02:37Not the experience of being urinated on in and of itself.

0:02:37 > 0:02:41I didn't enjoy that. But what I did enjoy -

0:02:41 > 0:02:42and this is interesting, I think,

0:02:42 > 0:02:46in the light of what's happened in my life - what I did enjoy, I think,

0:02:46 > 0:02:49was the experience of

0:02:49 > 0:02:51provoking laughter in others.

0:02:51 > 0:02:52LAUGHTER

0:02:54 > 0:02:56I know. I mean...

0:02:56 > 0:02:58HE INHALES

0:02:58 > 0:02:59Yeah. Er...

0:02:59 > 0:03:03OK, I've not been in therapy or anything like that,

0:03:03 > 0:03:05but you know,

0:03:05 > 0:03:09I wondered, did that experience go on to be addictive, you know?

0:03:12 > 0:03:15I may have been lying in a urinal trough,

0:03:15 > 0:03:18covered in hot urine and crying,

0:03:18 > 0:03:20but on some level

0:03:20 > 0:03:22it was show business.

0:03:22 > 0:03:24LAUGHTER

0:03:26 > 0:03:28And I think back over my adult life -

0:03:28 > 0:03:3226 years of doing this five, six nights a week, and I...

0:03:32 > 0:03:34You know, I've not been in therapy, as I say,

0:03:34 > 0:03:38but I wonder, has my whole adult life

0:03:38 > 0:03:40been just an ongoing attempt to try

0:03:40 > 0:03:44to recapture, night after night,

0:03:44 > 0:03:49that...first amazing taste of what it means...

0:03:49 > 0:03:50LAUGHTER

0:03:52 > 0:03:54..to be a creative artist.

0:03:54 > 0:03:55LAUGHTER

0:03:58 > 0:04:01I don't know. I think about it a lot, I don't know. I mean, I...

0:04:02 > 0:04:05OK, I don't have any problem with urinal troughs.

0:04:05 > 0:04:07I go up and down the motorways doing gigs

0:04:07 > 0:04:12and I use the urinal troughs in the service stations.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15You know, it's fine. But what I...

0:04:15 > 0:04:17What I have noticed now

0:04:17 > 0:04:20is there's now no longer enough pressure in my bladder

0:04:20 > 0:04:24to force my urine out across the one-inch gap

0:04:24 > 0:04:27between the tip of my penis

0:04:27 > 0:04:30and the rim of any standard wall-mounted

0:04:30 > 0:04:33service station urinal trough. And...

0:04:35 > 0:04:38..you know, it wasn't always the case. I mean, once,

0:04:38 > 0:04:40the jet of my urine was...

0:04:40 > 0:04:43it was powerful, it was accurate.

0:04:45 > 0:04:47It was like a riot control water cannon.

0:04:50 > 0:04:52Now it's like a crop sprayer.

0:04:54 > 0:04:56LAUGHTER

0:04:58 > 0:04:59Descends in a fine mist.

0:05:02 > 0:05:03Toxic to weasels.

0:05:03 > 0:05:05LAUGHTER

0:05:09 > 0:05:12Do you know, I remember once I fractured my arm.

0:05:12 > 0:05:16I was blowing bubbles on the step of a static caravan

0:05:16 > 0:05:19in a place called Beer in South Devon,

0:05:19 > 0:05:22and I slipped on the bubble mixture and I fractured my arm.

0:05:22 > 0:05:26And my grandad took me into hospital in Exeter

0:05:26 > 0:05:28and I was in traction for a month,

0:05:28 > 0:05:31and one day my grandad gave me a little pot

0:05:31 > 0:05:34to urinate into in the bed,

0:05:34 > 0:05:36but I sort of missed the rim of it,

0:05:36 > 0:05:40and the jet of my urine was so powerful

0:05:40 > 0:05:43that it actually hit my grandad,

0:05:43 > 0:05:47who was standing five feet away,

0:05:47 > 0:05:48fully in the face.

0:05:48 > 0:05:49LAUGHTER

0:05:51 > 0:05:53(Watch this.)

0:05:54 > 0:05:56I was 28 years old.

0:05:56 > 0:05:57LAUGHTER

0:06:04 > 0:06:06OK, what you can feel at home,

0:06:06 > 0:06:08you can feel the unease in the room, and the pr...

0:06:08 > 0:06:10OK, what's happened is,

0:06:10 > 0:06:13these tickets have gone through the BBC Ticket Unit, right?

0:06:13 > 0:06:17So people that have seen me before, which is these people here, right?

0:06:17 > 0:06:19They're laughing throughout cos they know

0:06:19 > 0:06:22that I wouldn't just do half an hour on urine, right?

0:06:22 > 0:06:25So they're assuming that it's about something else

0:06:25 > 0:06:28or there's some sort of subtext or it's about nostalgia

0:06:28 > 0:06:30or memory or whatever. But a lot of these people -

0:06:30 > 0:06:32and I try every year to make it harder for them to get in,

0:06:32 > 0:06:34but they come... LAUGHTER

0:06:34 > 0:06:37they're just liggers that apply through the BBC ticket unit.

0:06:37 > 0:06:38They don't know what they've come to

0:06:38 > 0:06:42and they've brought nothing to the table, right? And they're thinking,

0:06:42 > 0:06:44"Oh, I won't listen to this cos it's just about urine."

0:06:44 > 0:06:46But it's not. And it...

0:06:46 > 0:06:50What I've tried to do is I've shown you, right -

0:06:50 > 0:06:53I'm trying to get you to buy into a story, right?

0:06:53 > 0:06:57But if it's, like, just shit little stupid crap jokes that you want,

0:06:57 > 0:07:00I can go, "Oh, I was 28 years old," like that,

0:07:00 > 0:07:04and I can make you laugh and I can do it at will like that, OK?

0:07:04 > 0:07:07I can turn on a sixpence and do it.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10But I'm trying to do something better, OK?

0:07:10 > 0:07:13And this is being recorded and you are here as a privilege

0:07:13 > 0:07:16so fucking make some effort and listen.

0:07:16 > 0:07:19LAUGHTER

0:07:19 > 0:07:22Right, there's a guy... At the very point where I say,

0:07:22 > 0:07:24"Make some effort and listen,"

0:07:24 > 0:07:28there's a guy stubbling over to sneak out, right?

0:07:28 > 0:07:30In front of my eye line, right?

0:07:30 > 0:07:33And that's not going to make good telly, is it?

0:07:33 > 0:07:37A bloke flailing around while people visibly leave in camera.

0:07:37 > 0:07:38LAUGHTER

0:07:50 > 0:07:52Look, my grandad, he wasn't that bothered.

0:07:52 > 0:07:54This was...

0:07:54 > 0:07:58a man who'd been shot at by Nazi fighter planes

0:07:58 > 0:08:01when he was RAF ground crew in World War II.

0:08:01 > 0:08:04I mean, he'd looked death in the eye. To him,

0:08:04 > 0:08:07child's urine off his old man's face

0:08:07 > 0:08:10was just water off a duck's back.

0:08:13 > 0:08:15Or a child's urine off an old man's face.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21Which became a figure of speech in our family...

0:08:21 > 0:08:22LAUGHTER

0:08:25 > 0:08:27..used to describe anything of no consequence.

0:08:32 > 0:08:36"A traffic warden was rude to me in Mell Square today, Stu."

0:08:38 > 0:08:40LAUGHTER

0:08:42 > 0:08:44"Were you upset, Gran?"

0:08:45 > 0:08:47"Not really, no.

0:08:47 > 0:08:50"It were child's urine off an old man's face."

0:08:54 > 0:08:57"A fella tooted at me for driving too slow on the Digbeth Flyover

0:08:57 > 0:08:59"this morning, Stu."

0:09:00 > 0:09:02"Were you upset, Grandad?"

0:09:02 > 0:09:05"Not really, no.

0:09:05 > 0:09:07"It were child's urine off an old man's face."

0:09:11 > 0:09:14"I saw a child urinating onto a duck's back

0:09:14 > 0:09:15"in Cannon Hill Park today."

0:09:15 > 0:09:17LAUGHTER

0:09:21 > 0:09:23"Was the duck upset, Mum?"

0:09:26 > 0:09:28"Not upset, exactly, Stu.

0:09:28 > 0:09:32"To be honest, I'm not sure how best to describe its emotional state."

0:09:32 > 0:09:33LAUGHTER

0:09:38 > 0:09:41They're still doing the main amount of work here, aren't they?

0:09:44 > 0:09:47You, mate, with the beard - you're a dead weight in this room.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50You are. And you're right in my eye line. You're a dead weight.

0:09:50 > 0:09:54There are cackling sycophants that would have loved that seat.

0:09:54 > 0:09:55LAUGHTER

0:10:03 > 0:10:06I've got another, um...

0:10:06 > 0:10:09happy childhood memory involving my grandfather and urine.

0:10:11 > 0:10:15About two years after I urinated into my grandad's face

0:10:15 > 0:10:19in Exeter, down in the West Country there,

0:10:19 > 0:10:24my mother took my grandad and I on holiday to Malta,

0:10:24 > 0:10:28and while we were there, we were both urinating together

0:10:28 > 0:10:31into a kind of ceramic urinal trough

0:10:31 > 0:10:35on the floor of a quite ornate public urinal in Malta,

0:10:35 > 0:10:39and there were big, black Maltese flies buzzing around

0:10:39 > 0:10:41the twin streams of our urine,

0:10:41 > 0:10:45and my grandad - who'd been in the RAF, remember -

0:10:45 > 0:10:48he started trying to sort of shoot down the flies...

0:10:48 > 0:10:50LAUGHTER

0:10:56 > 0:10:58..saying to me as he did so,

0:10:58 > 0:11:00"I like to pretend they're Germans."

0:11:00 > 0:11:01LAUGHTER

0:11:03 > 0:11:06You know, for a lot of men of his generation, I think in many ways

0:11:06 > 0:11:07the war never really ended.

0:11:07 > 0:11:08LAUGHTER

0:11:12 > 0:11:15Still just you, isn't it? It's still just you. Do you know what?

0:11:15 > 0:11:18I've been running this in live for about six months

0:11:18 > 0:11:20and there is normally applause there,

0:11:20 > 0:11:25and it is fucking Sod's law that the night you come to record it

0:11:25 > 0:11:28it's just one pocket of people going...

0:11:29 > 0:11:33That's why I always drink the water at this point,

0:11:33 > 0:11:37cos I drink the water sort of magnanimously

0:11:37 > 0:11:39while I wait for the...

0:11:39 > 0:11:40LAUGHTER AND SCATTERED APPLAUSE

0:11:40 > 0:11:42Don't, no! Don't...

0:11:42 > 0:11:45APPLAUSE No, no, no.

0:11:45 > 0:11:47No.

0:11:47 > 0:11:51No. We play the hand we are dealt in this game, right?

0:11:52 > 0:11:57Play the room as it lays, right?

0:12:00 > 0:12:02What the fucking...? Unbelievable.

0:12:02 > 0:12:04It's a good routine, this.

0:12:04 > 0:12:08This is... Right, there's a lot of scepticism in the room,

0:12:08 > 0:12:11you particularly, sir. You've not...

0:12:11 > 0:12:13People in the front row going, "Uh..."

0:12:13 > 0:12:17This is a good bit, right? The problem is you're not...

0:12:24 > 0:12:27This plays into your...what you think of us as well, doesn't it?

0:12:27 > 0:12:31You think we're mad, comedians, don't you?

0:12:31 > 0:12:34Sort of crazy desperate figures.

0:12:34 > 0:12:37Sort of low self-esteem, you know,

0:12:37 > 0:12:40wanting the approval of strangers all the time,

0:12:40 > 0:12:43perhaps because of some childhood trauma.

0:12:43 > 0:12:45LAUGHTER

0:12:45 > 0:12:48OK, this is why this is unworkable, right?

0:12:48 > 0:12:52Because there's people... There's a table here

0:12:52 > 0:12:55finding things that aren't there, right?

0:12:55 > 0:12:59And yet here, the beard guy, this front row...

0:12:59 > 0:13:02And yet I'm supposed to steer a course through this.

0:13:05 > 0:13:07I'm glad this has been captured

0:13:07 > 0:13:10because it shows what an impossible...

0:13:12 > 0:13:14Every now and again, it is a very difficult job, this.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17You know, we... Well...

0:13:17 > 0:13:20It's very stressful. We lose a lot of people to the...

0:13:20 > 0:13:22LAUGHTER

0:13:22 > 0:13:25We do. You know, like Hancock and Lenny Bruce,

0:13:25 > 0:13:27all these guys, cos it's...

0:13:27 > 0:13:30You have got a bit, and it always goes, "Bang, bang, bang."

0:13:30 > 0:13:33And then you have a night and you feel it melting under you and you...

0:13:33 > 0:13:35HE BREATHES DEEPLY

0:13:35 > 0:13:38I mean, audiences like you, you know,

0:13:38 > 0:13:40you as good as murdered Robin Williams.

0:13:40 > 0:13:43LAUGHTER

0:13:47 > 0:13:48You did.

0:13:48 > 0:13:51You as good as got the fucking noose and kicked the...

0:13:51 > 0:13:55You did. And this is what you think, isn't it? Right.

0:13:55 > 0:13:58This is what you think. "Oh, Robin Williams, he was mad.

0:13:58 > 0:14:00He must have been on drugs or drunk."

0:14:00 > 0:14:02That's what you think, right?

0:14:02 > 0:14:04You're like journalists. We don't think that, OK?

0:14:04 > 0:14:08We know what it is. It's 60 years of nights like this

0:14:08 > 0:14:11where you've got a thing that's like that and that and that,

0:14:11 > 0:14:12and it's all...

0:14:14 > 0:14:15You know, we lose a lot...

0:14:15 > 0:14:17We lose a lot of people, is all I'm saying.

0:14:21 > 0:14:23A car is a lethal weapon, right?

0:14:23 > 0:14:27You wouldn't get behind the wheel of a car if you couldn't drive,

0:14:27 > 0:14:28would you? No.

0:14:28 > 0:14:32And likewise, a comedy audience, right?

0:14:32 > 0:14:34Chipping away at people's self-esteem,

0:14:34 > 0:14:36that is a lethal weapon, right?

0:14:36 > 0:14:38And you should not be in a comedy audience

0:14:38 > 0:14:42if you can't follow the development of an idea through,

0:14:42 > 0:14:45because there are consequences of your indifference,

0:14:45 > 0:14:46of your stupidity,

0:14:46 > 0:14:49and that is the fucking holocaust

0:14:49 > 0:14:51of dead comics that we have got.

0:14:52 > 0:14:56Lenny Bruce, Robin Williams, Hancock, all these guys.

0:14:58 > 0:15:00And the longer you do it...

0:15:02 > 0:15:04You lose people, you know... And I mean, I...

0:15:07 > 0:15:09I was on a...

0:15:09 > 0:15:14bill in Montreal, '98, '99.

0:15:16 > 0:15:17And it was me...

0:15:17 > 0:15:20For about a month, me, Richard Jeni,

0:15:20 > 0:15:22Mitch Hedberg, who was very good,

0:15:22 > 0:15:26and Stanhope, and...

0:15:28 > 0:15:31You know, within about five years of that gig,

0:15:31 > 0:15:33half the people on that bill were dead, you know?

0:15:36 > 0:15:38Because of you. LAUGHTER

0:15:38 > 0:15:39Well, you know...

0:15:41 > 0:15:44Why would you laugh at that and not at a...

0:15:44 > 0:15:47Why would you laugh at someone remembering people

0:15:47 > 0:15:51that they've worked with who've...and not at a joke...

0:15:52 > 0:15:54..about...flies, you know?

0:15:54 > 0:15:56I don't really...

0:16:03 > 0:16:05I think about them.

0:16:07 > 0:16:08Well...

0:16:10 > 0:16:12I think about all the comics we've lost,

0:16:12 > 0:16:14and I think about all the dead comedians,

0:16:14 > 0:16:16dead by their own hand, and I...

0:16:19 > 0:16:21I think about them every night before...

0:16:21 > 0:16:25before I come on stage, but I do come on stage, and I...

0:16:27 > 0:16:29And I...

0:16:29 > 0:16:33VOICE TREMBLING: I walk out onto these stages every night...

0:16:35 > 0:16:37..through a forest of ghosts...

0:16:37 > 0:16:38LAUGHTER

0:16:43 > 0:16:46..of all the dead...

0:16:46 > 0:16:48comics, and I look through them...

0:16:50 > 0:16:51..and I see you.

0:16:51 > 0:16:53LAUGHTER

0:16:58 > 0:17:00And the worst...

0:17:02 > 0:17:05..ones are the people that I knew.

0:17:08 > 0:17:11Because they're not like ghosts in a film, they're...

0:17:13 > 0:17:16They're just in the clothes they wore

0:17:16 > 0:17:18when I knew them, and they...

0:17:19 > 0:17:22They stand just like they would have stood at the bar

0:17:22 > 0:17:24in Edinburgh or whatever...

0:17:27 > 0:17:30..and they come up to me on this side, some of them...

0:17:31 > 0:17:35..and they say to me, "Oh, don't let them get you down, you know?"

0:17:35 > 0:17:37LAUGHTER

0:17:43 > 0:17:45Ones on this side, they come in,

0:17:45 > 0:17:48close,

0:17:48 > 0:17:51and they whisper to me,

0:17:51 > 0:17:54("Join us, join us, join us.")

0:17:54 > 0:17:56LAUGHTER

0:18:07 > 0:18:10LAUGHTER

0:18:20 > 0:18:21Anyway...

0:18:22 > 0:18:25The Maltese flies...

0:18:25 > 0:18:26LAUGHTER

0:18:26 > 0:18:29Look, I'm just going to finish this bit,

0:18:29 > 0:18:32cos I don't want you all going on fucking social media and going

0:18:32 > 0:18:35"Oh, then he went mad and he didn't finish the..."

0:18:37 > 0:18:38I'll just finish this bit.

0:18:41 > 0:18:42(Finish this bit.)

0:18:45 > 0:18:46LAUGHTER

0:18:54 > 0:18:55LAUGHTER

0:19:07 > 0:19:08LAUGHTER

0:19:16 > 0:19:18The Maltese flies...

0:19:20 > 0:19:23..weren't that bothered about all the...

0:19:23 > 0:19:24the stuff going on them.

0:19:26 > 0:19:28To them it was just...

0:19:28 > 0:19:30LAUGHTER

0:19:31 > 0:19:33SHOUTING: Is that what it takes, is it?!

0:19:33 > 0:19:34LAUGHTER

0:19:34 > 0:19:36APPLAUSE

0:19:36 > 0:19:38Is that what it takes

0:19:38 > 0:19:41to get you and you

0:19:41 > 0:19:42and you?

0:19:47 > 0:19:50HE SHOUTS AND SWEARS INDISTINCTLY

0:19:52 > 0:19:54To think ahead of the curve,

0:19:54 > 0:19:59to understand that you hold, in your visibly indifferent hands,

0:19:59 > 0:20:01in your indifferent hands,

0:20:01 > 0:20:05in your bored TV executive complementary table hands,

0:20:05 > 0:20:10a person's living, beating heart?!

0:20:16 > 0:20:18You should have been concentrating like that

0:20:18 > 0:20:21from the moment you came in!

0:20:21 > 0:20:23Fucking sitting there staring at me,

0:20:23 > 0:20:25sitting in the front row not doing anything,

0:20:25 > 0:20:28looking at me like I'm a commodity

0:20:28 > 0:20:30for your dying channel!

0:20:30 > 0:20:33LAUGHTER

0:20:33 > 0:20:35APPLAUSE

0:20:35 > 0:20:40Because there are fucking blokes creeping out in front of you!

0:20:48 > 0:20:53Cos there are consequences of your indifference, and that is the dead!

0:20:53 > 0:20:57The piling up of the dead, now,

0:20:57 > 0:20:59the old music hall guys, people you know,

0:20:59 > 0:21:02and their blood is on you, on your faces,

0:21:02 > 0:21:04pouring down your...

0:21:04 > 0:21:06LAUGHTER

0:21:28 > 0:21:30LAUGHTER

0:21:34 > 0:21:36The Maltese flies...

0:21:36 > 0:21:37LAUGHTER

0:21:39 > 0:21:43..weren't that bothered about all the...going on them.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46To them it was just...

0:21:46 > 0:21:48LAUGHTER

0:21:48 > 0:21:50HE BREATHES HEAVILY

0:21:52 > 0:21:55..an old man's urine off a Maltese fly's...

0:21:55 > 0:21:58SCATTERED APPLAUSE Don't clap, don't clap!

0:21:58 > 0:22:00APPLAUSE

0:22:00 > 0:22:03Don't... What are you...? You're clapping yourselves!

0:22:04 > 0:22:09You're clapping your own ability to follow the development of an idea!

0:22:09 > 0:22:11I take that as a given! That's what you should...

0:22:11 > 0:22:14It's not a fucking treat for me that you've decided to...

0:22:15 > 0:22:17This is being filmed!

0:22:17 > 0:22:18LAUGHTER

0:22:29 > 0:22:33And the worst thing about that memory is my grandad,

0:22:33 > 0:22:36when he was urinating on those flies,

0:22:36 > 0:22:41he was in his late 70s, he'd had a heart attack, a stroke,

0:22:41 > 0:22:43heart valve replacement surgery,

0:22:43 > 0:22:45he was on Warfarin and all this, and...

0:22:45 > 0:22:48and yet the jet of his urine then...

0:22:48 > 0:22:50LAUGHTER

0:22:53 > 0:22:57..was more powerful and accurate than mine is now

0:22:57 > 0:22:58at the age of 47.

0:23:03 > 0:23:06So I went to see the doctor about it and he asked me for a urine sample,

0:23:06 > 0:23:10which I thought was insensitive under the circumstances. LAUGHTER

0:23:12 > 0:23:16So I gave him a sample of my wife's urine instead,

0:23:16 > 0:23:18which I'd been keeping.

0:23:18 > 0:23:19LAUGHTER

0:23:22 > 0:23:25You do, don't you? When you love someone, you keep little things.

0:23:28 > 0:23:30A bit of wedding cake,

0:23:30 > 0:23:34a sample of their urine,

0:23:34 > 0:23:38a picture of them as a younger woman in a bikini on a beach somewhere.

0:23:38 > 0:23:40They don't know you've got it, you found it in a tin.

0:23:40 > 0:23:42LAUGHTER

0:23:45 > 0:23:49She's there in Thailand or somewhere,

0:23:49 > 0:23:53running around happy and laughing with a...

0:23:53 > 0:23:57with another man, not you, a younger, fitter,

0:23:57 > 0:24:01Australian man. A drummer with little six-pack and Speedos and...

0:24:03 > 0:24:06..sitting under a straw umbrella,

0:24:06 > 0:24:08laughing and drinking cocktails.

0:24:12 > 0:24:13But it didn't work out, did it?

0:24:13 > 0:24:14LAUGHTER

0:24:19 > 0:24:21What a shame for you.

0:24:24 > 0:24:25We all like to think, don't we,

0:24:25 > 0:24:28that we make positive choices in life, but...

0:24:28 > 0:24:32but sometimes it's all about which chair you're sitting in

0:24:32 > 0:24:33when the music stops.

0:24:33 > 0:24:34LAUGHTER

0:24:41 > 0:24:44Anyway, the doctor told me I was pregnant, so I had to come clean.

0:24:44 > 0:24:45LAUGHTER

0:24:48 > 0:24:49He said, "It's just age."

0:24:49 > 0:24:52I thought, "47's a bit young to be told something's just age,"

0:24:52 > 0:24:56but I know that I'm falling apart. Since I last performed here,

0:24:56 > 0:24:58I've been told I'm going deaf

0:24:58 > 0:25:01and I've got to wear hearing aids. I've got them in tonight.

0:25:01 > 0:25:03I've been wearing them this year.

0:25:04 > 0:25:06It's a bit weird being told,

0:25:06 > 0:25:1025 years into a stand-up career,

0:25:10 > 0:25:12that you've got to wear hearing aids.

0:25:13 > 0:25:16For example, I developed this cold, distant, arrogant stage persona

0:25:16 > 0:25:20because I'd assumed audiences didn't really appreciate what I was doing.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22LAUGHTER

0:25:27 > 0:25:29Turns out the gigs have been going very well.

0:25:29 > 0:25:31LAUGHTER

0:25:33 > 0:25:34APPLAUSE

0:25:34 > 0:25:35Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:25:40 > 0:25:44I thought I was a hard-to-understand outsider artist, but...

0:25:44 > 0:25:47apparently I'm incredibly mainstream.

0:25:47 > 0:25:48LAUGHTER

0:25:50 > 0:25:53Audiences even like it when I'm rude to them.

0:25:54 > 0:25:55They love it.

0:25:56 > 0:25:58To them, it's just...

0:25:58 > 0:26:00LAUGHTER

0:26:05 > 0:26:06But I wasn't always this popular.

0:26:06 > 0:26:09Once I was kicked into a urinal trough and urinated on.

0:26:10 > 0:26:13But it made me what I am, I suppose.

0:26:19 > 0:26:25MUSIC: Miserere By Gregorio Allegri

0:28:18 > 0:28:20This is this. You go, "It's not that."

0:28:20 > 0:28:22They can say it isn't this, but it is.

0:28:22 > 0:28:25- This is this.- You've spent 25 years honing your craft

0:28:25 > 0:28:29- and you're just reduced to saying, "This is this."- This is this. Yeah.

0:28:29 > 0:28:32And you can't even really prove that, can you?

0:28:32 > 0:28:34- Well, it is.- You just have to insist that this is this.

0:28:34 > 0:28:37You've written loads of material and you've done loads and loads of gigs

0:28:37 > 0:28:41all over the country, and the best you can offer anyone is, "What I'm saying is, this is this."

0:28:41 > 0:28:45There'll be people sitting at home going, "Oh, look at that. It isn't that."

0:28:45 > 0:28:47- I go, "It is th... This!" - How do you know?

0:28:47 > 0:28:48That's a straw man.

0:28:48 > 0:28:50Who on earth is sitting at home going,

0:28:50 > 0:28:53- "Look at that, it isn't that." - BOTH LAUGHING

0:28:53 > 0:28:55- What evidence have you got? - They might be.

0:28:55 > 0:28:58They might be! So I'm going to build a whole career

0:28:58 > 0:29:01to refute what I imagine somebody might be thinking.

0:29:01 > 0:29:03- This...- Yeah.- This is this.

0:29:03 > 0:29:06You keep saying that. It doesn't sound any better.

0:29:06 > 0:29:07BOTH LAUGHING

0:29:07 > 0:29:10There's all sorts of things they can...

0:29:10 > 0:29:12This is happening again now.

0:29:12 > 0:29:14This is...

0:29:14 > 0:29:16Hang on. But is this happening?

0:29:16 > 0:29:19- I've lost track of what this is now. - Well...

0:29:19 > 0:29:21Last time this happened, I felt I should intervene.

0:29:21 > 0:29:24Now I feel like I've literally got no tools to deploy.

0:29:24 > 0:29:27Again, right. It's two years of work.

0:29:27 > 0:29:31It's two years of work. I've been gigging six nights a week

0:29:31 > 0:29:34for two years to get all this together.

0:29:34 > 0:29:36People go, "Oh, it's not as good as last time.

0:29:36 > 0:29:39"You know, he's done this, that doesn't make any sense."

0:29:39 > 0:29:41Well, fine, right?

0:29:41 > 0:29:43All those things might be true,

0:29:43 > 0:29:45but this is this.