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0:00:02 > 0:00:06This programme contains some strong language.

0:00:09 > 0:00:14# There may be trouble ahead

0:00:14 > 0:00:21# But while there's moonlight and music and love and romance

0:00:21 > 0:00:26# Let's face the music and da-ance

0:00:26 > 0:00:31# Let's face the music and da-a-ance. #

0:00:44 > 0:00:46KAY: It's not about lightening up, Simon.

0:00:46 > 0:00:49It's... Don't tell me to lighten up, that's inappropriate.

0:00:49 > 0:00:50It's about... I HAVE got a life.

0:00:50 > 0:00:51Monday morning,

0:00:51 > 0:00:54and 2012 Head of Sustainability, Kay Hope,

0:00:54 > 0:00:56is on the phone to her ex-husband.

0:00:56 > 0:00:57Bye.

0:00:57 > 0:01:00In the last few days, Kay has been sharing her office

0:01:00 > 0:01:03with new arrival, Head of Legacy, Fi Healey.

0:01:03 > 0:01:05Could you put Kieran back on, please?

0:01:05 > 0:01:07Where is he? What do you mean "somewhere"?

0:01:07 > 0:01:08- IAN:- Absolutely.

0:01:08 > 0:01:11Meanwhile, Head of Deliverance, Ian Fletcher,

0:01:11 > 0:01:14is already on the phone to Sebastian Coe.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17Plus, if we'd known Spurs were intending to knock down the entire stadium

0:01:17 > 0:01:20and start again, well, we could have probably got something from IKEA

0:01:20 > 0:01:22in the first place. Absolutely.

0:01:22 > 0:01:26Well, no, look, we're very much West Ham fans all the way...

0:01:26 > 0:01:29Today is the first day at work for new PA, Daniel Stroud,

0:01:29 > 0:01:34following the recent, unavoidable departure of Ian's long-term PA, Sally Owen.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36The sustainability audit will help us here.

0:01:36 > 0:01:40It'll be a terrific read, and we'll give it to you ASAP, and so we move on.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43Yes, no, absolutely. Not at all. You too.

0:01:43 > 0:01:45Bye.

0:01:45 > 0:01:47- Hi. - Hey, Ian, it's Daniel.

0:01:47 > 0:01:49Ah, right, of course, Daniel. Yes, hi.

0:01:49 > 0:01:53No, don't make a fuss, I'm not going to bother you, I'll slip right in. You'll hardly notice, really.

0:01:53 > 0:01:56- Right. Well, I mean, welcome anyway.- Yes.

0:01:56 > 0:02:00- So you've spoken to Seb obviously. - Yes, I've done that.- Cool, and Danny Boyle's office phoned.

0:02:00 > 0:02:02- Oh, right, yes, and? - Could they take out all the chairs?

0:02:02 > 0:02:05- Right, OK, yes. - Oh, no, I mean, what next?

0:02:05 > 0:02:07Yeah, well, put them all back again, I hope.

0:02:07 > 0:02:09Yes. Absolutely, nice.

0:02:09 > 0:02:13- Right, I'll get on with that, thanks.- Cool, and it's cappuccino with chocolate on top?- Oh, well...

0:02:13 > 0:02:16- Nope, I've done my homework, Ian, like I say you'll hardly notice. - Right.

0:02:16 > 0:02:18PHONE RINGS

0:02:19 > 0:02:24By nine o'clock, the Monday morning heads-up is under way,

0:02:24 > 0:02:27and Ian is joined by Head of Infrastructure, Graham Hitchins,

0:02:27 > 0:02:31and Head of Contracts, Nick Jowett, as well as Fi Healey and Kay Hope.

0:02:31 > 0:02:33- OK, good. So, Kay. - Hi.

0:02:33 > 0:02:36The sustainability audit of the stadium bids...

0:02:36 > 0:02:38Absolutely, yes, I'm very nearly there with it.

0:02:38 > 0:02:42- Good, cos I had another call from Seb's office this morning.- Oh, right, yes.- He's keen to go public

0:02:42 > 0:02:43- on this now.- Right.

0:02:43 > 0:02:47- I mean really keen, so he can make a full announcement next Monday, and we can all move on.- Right.

0:02:47 > 0:02:49The main item on today's agenda

0:02:49 > 0:02:52is the future of the Olympic Stadium post-Games.

0:02:52 > 0:02:56The widely awaited announcement of the decision has been delayed

0:02:56 > 0:02:59pending final assessments of the two rival bids' respective merits.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02I mean, the sustainability issues around this are highly complex.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05- It's got to be West Ham, though, innit?- Yeah. - KNOCKING

0:03:05 > 0:03:07- Sorry, guys, excuse me. IAN:- Yes, Daniel?

0:03:07 > 0:03:09- Hey, everybody. ALL:- Hey, Daniel.

0:03:09 > 0:03:12Sorry to interrupt. I've got Siobhan Sharpe here for your 10 o'clock.

0:03:12 > 0:03:15Oh, right, OK, thanks, yes. Could you just say I'll be another five minutes?

0:03:15 > 0:03:18- OK, sure.- That's great.- Cool, will do, have fun.- Thank you.

0:03:18 > 0:03:21Bye! Right, good. So, yes, Kay.

0:03:21 > 0:03:26Yes, in sustainability terms, it's about arriving at the bid that best honours

0:03:26 > 0:03:28our one planet, 2012 pledge

0:03:28 > 0:03:31to keep a running track completely untouched

0:03:31 > 0:03:35- as part of a football stadium post-Games.- Yeah... I mean that's... What?- I really think that.

0:03:35 > 0:03:37I mean, guys, this is all about the running track, isn't it?

0:03:37 > 0:03:40Er, well, partly, yes, but in terms of sustainability,

0:03:40 > 0:03:42this is a key sustainability issue, actually.

0:03:42 > 0:03:45The whole problem with the Spurs' bid is you take away a running track

0:03:45 > 0:03:47from an athletics stadium and what are you actually left with?

0:03:47 > 0:03:51- Well, you're left with a football stadium.- Pardon?- That's easy. Yes, obvious.- Obviously,

0:03:51 > 0:03:55it's crucial that the decision process is impartial and fair at every stage.

0:03:55 > 0:03:57- Absolutely, yes. - It's got to be West Ham, innit?

0:03:57 > 0:04:00But at the same time, I don't think it's a secret that if it did turn out

0:04:00 > 0:04:04that being impartial and fair ended up favouring the West Ham bid, that would be no bad thing at all.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07Shame they can't play football. Ccan't have everything, I suppose.

0:04:07 > 0:04:10- It isn't about football, OK? - You're telling me! Have you seen them play?

0:04:10 > 0:04:13- The running track is a core legacy commitment... - Er... Well...

0:04:13 > 0:04:18..so I'm happy to go on record and say that we are also big Hammers fans when it comes to this issue.

0:04:18 > 0:04:20Well, that's very helpful, isn't it, Kay?

0:04:20 > 0:04:23Yes, although, of course, actually, this is a key sustainability issue, actually.

0:04:23 > 0:04:25- Oh, no, completely. - Whether you want to use

0:04:25 > 0:04:27- big hammers or not.- Yes.

0:04:27 > 0:04:30No, I mean we think sustainability is a really important part of legacy.

0:04:30 > 0:04:34- No, completely. - OK, great. So that's all good.

0:04:34 > 0:04:36PHONES RING

0:04:37 > 0:04:39Oh, she's gone in already, has she?

0:04:39 > 0:04:42- Yes. I asked if she'd like to wait outside, but it turns out she doesn't.- Right, OK.

0:04:42 > 0:04:45- It's 10:15. Is it time for your muffin?- What?- Or should that wait till 11?

0:04:45 > 0:04:47- OK... No... - It's not a muffin, is it?

0:04:47 > 0:04:50- No, really...- Don't tell me, it's a Danish, isn't it?

0:04:50 > 0:04:52- Daniel, it's fine.- It is, though. Oh, honestly.

0:04:52 > 0:04:54- Really, it's not important. - It's all about detail.

0:04:54 > 0:04:56If I can't tell my muffins from my Danishes now,

0:04:56 > 0:04:59how am I going to cope when the athletes start arriving?

0:04:59 > 0:05:00Sorry about that, Siobhan.

0:05:00 > 0:05:02- Sure, come on in. - Yes, no, I am doing.

0:05:02 > 0:05:06Ian has asked 2012 Head of Brand, Siobhan Sharpe,

0:05:06 > 0:05:08from PR company Perfect Curve, to come in and discuss

0:05:08 > 0:05:10a potentially interesting idea.

0:05:10 > 0:05:13So, I had a call from Clarence House yesterday.

0:05:13 > 0:05:16- Cool.- Basically...- That's the guy that does the jumping, right?

0:05:16 > 0:05:18Clarence House, official residence

0:05:18 > 0:05:20of the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall.

0:05:20 > 0:05:21Oh, sure, totally.

0:05:21 > 0:05:25- So, basically... Actually would you mind stopping doing that? - Sure.- Is that OK?

0:05:25 > 0:05:27- That's totally cool. - Good, thank you.

0:05:27 > 0:05:30Yes, so basically it seems that they might be interested in looking at

0:05:30 > 0:05:33ways of linking up the Jubilee next year with the whole 2012 thing.

0:05:33 > 0:05:35Cool.

0:05:35 > 0:05:37Which in terms of, um...

0:05:37 > 0:05:40- Oh, no, no, no, I'm good, I'm done. - Good.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42In terms of brand image, when you start to think about it,

0:05:42 > 0:05:45it might not be a bad idea for us to explore.

0:05:45 > 0:05:46- Cool.- So, what I was...

0:05:46 > 0:05:48Sorry, guys, excuse me.

0:05:48 > 0:05:50- Delivery for Mr Fletcher. - Thank you, Daniel.

0:05:50 > 0:05:52- A big one, the biggest I could find.- Thank you.

0:05:52 > 0:05:55- Siobhan, can I get something for you too?- Oh, no way, thanks, Daniel, not for me, no.

0:05:55 > 0:05:57- Don't tell me this is a guilt thing? - Well, you know...

0:05:57 > 0:06:00- You so don't need to!- Yes, OK, thank you Daniel, thank you.

0:06:00 > 0:06:01- Enjoy.- Yes.

0:06:01 > 0:06:04So, yes, I just thought I'd ask you to come over

0:06:04 > 0:06:07and talk about the sort of opportunities you think an idea like that...

0:06:07 > 0:06:09Sure.

0:06:09 > 0:06:11..an idea like that might throw up for us in branding terms.

0:06:11 > 0:06:13No, I think it's a terrific idea - way cool. Totally.

0:06:13 > 0:06:15- Right.- Sure.

0:06:16 > 0:06:20And in terms of input from you, how that might actually...

0:06:20 > 0:06:24No, sure, yeah, I mean the thing with that is...

0:06:24 > 0:06:26I mean the thing with that is,

0:06:26 > 0:06:29- I mean, it's not every year you get the Diamond Jubilee. - Well, no.- I mean,

0:06:29 > 0:06:31it's like once every 50 years, right?

0:06:31 > 0:06:33- Yes, well, 60, in fact.- Sure.

0:06:33 > 0:06:34- The 50 is golden.- Cool.

0:06:34 > 0:06:37Here's the thing, they've got a big national event coming up, OK?

0:06:37 > 0:06:40- Right.- Um... So that's like the Jubilee.

0:06:40 > 0:06:41Yes.

0:06:41 > 0:06:44- And we've got a real biggie of our own up and running.- Yes. - The Olympics.

0:06:44 > 0:06:49- Yes, I know what ours is. - Sure. Um...so here's the thing, we hitch our wagon to that train

0:06:49 > 0:06:53and we get a royal tail all the way from here to Mount Olympia.

0:06:53 > 0:06:55Yes, I think that's pretty much what I just said to you.

0:06:55 > 0:06:57Hey, I love this.

0:06:57 > 0:06:59I love it when that happens.

0:07:07 > 0:07:12So, basically we've been working on the basis of five toilet events per athlete per day.

0:07:12 > 0:07:13- Toilet events?- Five?

0:07:13 > 0:07:17Meanwhile, Head of Infrastructure, Graham Hitchins, and Head of Contracts, Nick Jowett,

0:07:17 > 0:07:19are out at the Olympic site

0:07:19 > 0:07:22for a meeting with construction engineer, Paul Bavington.

0:07:22 > 0:07:25- Five toilet events? - Let's just crack on, shall we? - That's the official...

0:07:25 > 0:07:30- There you go, that's nuts to start with.- Well, what do you think...? - I'm struggling to think of two.

0:07:30 > 0:07:32Right, yeah, got it. Yeah.

0:07:32 > 0:07:36- Shall we just crack on? - We're talking about a number here not five different...- Yeah, got it.

0:07:36 > 0:07:39He's the man faced with the task of trying to deliver

0:07:39 > 0:07:43adequate sanitary accommodation in the athletes' village, despite recent budget cuts.

0:07:43 > 0:07:44Going back to the drawing board,

0:07:44 > 0:07:47we came up with something actually quite bold.

0:07:47 > 0:07:48- Smaller toilets.- Right, OK.

0:07:48 > 0:07:52- Clever.- What we like about it is that, as a design solution, it's very simple.

0:07:52 > 0:07:54- Yeah, that is simple. - When you say smaller...

0:07:54 > 0:07:57We think we could probably get three cubicles

0:07:57 > 0:07:59where there were two in the original plans.

0:07:59 > 0:08:00Oh, right, yeah.

0:08:00 > 0:08:01Which would get us down to an overall ratio

0:08:01 > 0:08:03of one toilet facility to nine athletes.

0:08:03 > 0:08:04Right.

0:08:04 > 0:08:08- Which is, you know, it's better, but it's still over the IOC limits.- Yes.

0:08:08 > 0:08:09So it's not great, to be honest.

0:08:09 > 0:08:11Sorry, can I just ask? These ideas you've been having,

0:08:11 > 0:08:15- did you have any that WERE great? - OK.- I'm asking cos I'm getting cramp in my knees.

0:08:15 > 0:08:17What we did then was, we looked at the ratio

0:08:17 > 0:08:19- of urinals to cubicles. - Oh, right, yes.

0:08:19 > 0:08:21We're talking about the men's blocks here.

0:08:21 > 0:08:24- I should hope so. - Because when it comes to the women, it's completely...

0:08:24 > 0:08:27Well, with the women, if you actually look at those areas,

0:08:27 > 0:08:29they're designed quite differently anyway.

0:08:29 > 0:08:30Yes.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42MOBILE PHONE RINGS

0:08:46 > 0:08:47Hello.

0:08:47 > 0:08:49All right.

0:08:50 > 0:08:52Yes, still busy now - why?

0:08:52 > 0:08:56Back at the ODC, Kay is still trying to finish the sustainability audit

0:08:56 > 0:08:59of the stadium bids, despite her many other responsibilities.

0:08:59 > 0:09:03Mm? No, don't beat about the bush, darling, just tell me.

0:09:03 > 0:09:06Right. What do you mean septic?

0:09:06 > 0:09:10Right, OK, where is he now? No, shut up, I don't care, where is he now?

0:09:10 > 0:09:12And you're there with him?

0:09:12 > 0:09:14Well, how long did they say he's going to be?

0:09:14 > 0:09:17No, you can't do that, you can't come home, because I'm not there.

0:09:17 > 0:09:20I'm really busy today, because I've got a proper job.

0:09:20 > 0:09:24Yeah, I am, but you're his... Fucking hell, Simon. Fucking hell.

0:09:24 > 0:09:26- IAN:- Absolutely. No, absolutely. Yes.

0:09:26 > 0:09:28I've got it flagged as "by now at the latest",

0:09:28 > 0:09:30so, no, we're absolutely up to speed with this.

0:09:30 > 0:09:34With speculation mounting in the press about the future of the stadium,

0:09:34 > 0:09:37it's becoming increasingly clear just how keen Sebastian Coe is

0:09:37 > 0:09:39to make an announcement.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43No, look, the audit's pretty much on its way as we speak, I think, so...

0:09:43 > 0:09:45Exactly, yes, I will.

0:09:45 > 0:09:47And once we've got that underpinning in place,

0:09:47 > 0:09:49we're forever blowing bubbles, basically.

0:09:49 > 0:09:51So, er...

0:09:51 > 0:09:53It's a song they sing at West Ham.

0:09:53 > 0:09:55Yes, no, so that's all good.

0:09:55 > 0:09:58Absolutely. No, you too, bye.

0:09:58 > 0:10:00Bye-bye, bye.

0:10:00 > 0:10:03- Hi.- Hi, sorry, Ian, I didn't want to...- No, that's fine.

0:10:03 > 0:10:06- You don't have a light, do you?- Yes.

0:10:06 > 0:10:08My whole life is in this bag - I can never find anything in it.

0:10:08 > 0:10:10Here you go.

0:10:13 > 0:10:16- Thanks, that's great. - So, that's all good.

0:10:17 > 0:10:18So...

0:10:18 > 0:10:20I see you're not perfect, then.

0:10:20 > 0:10:22No - nearly!

0:10:22 > 0:10:23Yeah, me too.

0:10:27 > 0:10:30I was thinking, I just put some thoughts down about the West Ham stadium bids.

0:10:30 > 0:10:32- All right. - Just from a legacy point of view.

0:10:32 > 0:10:34- Maybe I should send them to you. - Yeah, sure.

0:10:34 > 0:10:37- Just the headlines really - one side of A4, that's all.- Perfect.

0:10:37 > 0:10:39I know how busy you are, plus I know how much Seb likes clarity.

0:10:39 > 0:10:41No, yes. No. No, he loves it, loves clarity.

0:10:41 > 0:10:43OK, great.

0:10:43 > 0:10:45Could be my first piece of homework, if you like.

0:10:45 > 0:10:47OK, look forward to marking it.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49I have to say, I didn't have you down as a smoker.

0:10:49 > 0:10:53- Well, I'm not, really. Actually, I've given up. - Sure, me too.- Yeah.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02Here's the thing with this, guys.

0:11:02 > 0:11:05A couple of great ideas right out of the bat.

0:11:05 > 0:11:06What we're looking at here

0:11:06 > 0:11:09is an idea so good you don't just want to marry it,

0:11:09 > 0:11:11you want to take it home and fuck it.

0:11:11 > 0:11:12OK, I think absolutely right...

0:11:12 > 0:11:18It's Tuesday morning, and across town at PR company Perfect Curve,

0:11:18 > 0:11:222012 Head of Brand, Siobhan Sharpe, is in the ideas space

0:11:22 > 0:11:25with her creative team - information architect, Barney Lumsden,

0:11:25 > 0:11:29trend analyst, Coco Lomax, and viral concept designer, Karl Marx.

0:11:29 > 0:11:31..And then William gives it to Kate,

0:11:31 > 0:11:34she turns and gives it to a guy in big shorts who's waiting.

0:11:34 > 0:11:35Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:11:35 > 0:11:37And he takes it

0:11:37 > 0:11:40and runs out of Cornwall with it to somewhere like the Olympic Stadium.

0:11:40 > 0:11:42- Yeah, or maybe Scotland. - Or maybe Scotland, yeah.

0:11:42 > 0:11:45And what you do is you make that the start of the torch relay.

0:11:45 > 0:11:47Shorts are good. We love big shorts.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50Maybe the guy in the big shorts could be in a wheelchair.

0:11:50 > 0:11:52Yeah, that didn't quite work with the shorts thing.

0:11:52 > 0:11:55With the meeting at Clarence House press office now in the diary,

0:11:55 > 0:11:58Ian has asked her to come up with possible strategies for linking

0:11:58 > 0:12:02next year's Queen's Diamond Jubilee celebrations with the 2012 Games.

0:12:02 > 0:12:06What we're thinking is of actually a single word or like a concept?

0:12:06 > 0:12:08- Or an idea.- Or an idea, yes.

0:12:08 > 0:12:11- So what we've come up with is... Barney, do you want to say this? - No, you say it.

0:12:11 > 0:12:15OK, well, what we're working around is basically...

0:12:15 > 0:12:17Jubilympics.

0:12:17 > 0:12:19Jubilympics.

0:12:19 > 0:12:20Yeah.

0:12:20 > 0:12:21Holy shit.

0:12:21 > 0:12:23Yeah, I know.

0:12:23 > 0:12:24So, that's like... What is that?

0:12:24 > 0:12:27- It's pretty cool.- Well, the thing is you can use it with like anything.

0:12:27 > 0:12:29I love this.

0:12:29 > 0:12:30So like...like what?

0:12:30 > 0:12:32OK, so you've got like the Jubilympic Stadium.

0:12:32 > 0:12:33Shit.

0:12:33 > 0:12:35- Jubilympic torch.- Man...

0:12:35 > 0:12:37The Jubilympic 100 metres final.

0:12:37 > 0:12:41Jubilympic 100 metres final - yeah, nice one.

0:12:41 > 0:12:42Do another one.

0:12:42 > 0:12:46OK, so you're going to get the Tube, maybe you're going to get like the Jubilympic Line.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49Shit. Do another one.

0:12:49 > 0:12:51OK, so, Olympic jubilastics.

0:12:51 > 0:12:52It didn't quite work.

0:12:52 > 0:12:54Yeah.

0:12:54 > 0:12:55Want a go?

0:12:55 > 0:12:57Um... OK, sure.

0:12:57 > 0:12:59- Don't think, just say it. - OK, OK.

0:12:59 > 0:13:02Um, Queen's Diamond Jubilympiad.

0:13:02 > 0:13:03- Whoa.- Yay!

0:13:03 > 0:13:06Jubilicious!

0:13:06 > 0:13:07Do another one.

0:13:09 > 0:13:10Olympic...

0:13:10 > 0:13:11Um...

0:13:11 > 0:13:14Meanwhile, back over at the Olympic Deliverance Commission, Kay Hope

0:13:14 > 0:13:18is only just arriving for work after taking her son, Kieran, to hospital.

0:13:18 > 0:13:20No, it's fine.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22It's not his fault he's got a father whose idea of cool parenting

0:13:22 > 0:13:26involves letting him work through some issues in a tattoo parlour in Camden.

0:13:26 > 0:13:27- MAN:- Right.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30I think it's tiredness now, cos obviously he didn't get any sleep last night.

0:13:30 > 0:13:31- MAN:- What about you? - Me?

0:13:31 > 0:13:33- MAN:- You must be pretty tired yourself.

0:13:33 > 0:13:36- You're not a woman, are you? MAN:- Oh, um...no.

0:13:36 > 0:13:37No.

0:13:37 > 0:13:38I'm fine, thank you, I'm fine.

0:13:38 > 0:13:40I'll see if he's free.

0:13:40 > 0:13:41It's quite important, thank you.

0:13:41 > 0:13:43- Right now.- Kay, hi.

0:13:43 > 0:13:45Hey, Ian, I've got Kay to see you.

0:13:45 > 0:13:49- Yes, thank you, Daniel.- Sure, enjoy. - What can I do for you?- Hi, yes. Fiona forwarded me this.- Right.

0:13:49 > 0:13:52- I've printed it off. - Yes, I've seen that. It's good, isn't it? I think we...

0:13:52 > 0:13:56"RE: The West Ham bid, retaining the running track in the stadium is about inclusivity.

0:13:56 > 0:13:58"Inclusivity is a core legacy pledge.

0:13:58 > 0:14:01"Legacy pledges are moral obligations."

0:14:01 > 0:14:05- Yes, it's a strong point to make... - Three lines, nice big font. Have you sent this to Seb? Have you sent it?

0:14:05 > 0:14:07- Yes, I did forward it, yes. - You HAVE sent it?

0:14:07 > 0:14:09- Yes.- Right, OK. OK.

0:14:09 > 0:14:12He wants to get a statement out now and he's desperate for any ammunition.

0:14:12 > 0:14:15- Right, OK, so you've sent the sustainability audit as well? - Well, no, I haven't.- Right, fine.

0:14:15 > 0:14:17- No...- That's fine, it's absolutely fine. Fine.

0:14:17 > 0:14:19You haven't done it yet, have you?

0:14:19 > 0:14:22- What? I mean, frankly... - I'm very keen to send it,

0:14:22 > 0:14:24believe me, as soon as it arrives.

0:14:24 > 0:14:28- Me too.- Kay, is there anything I can do...?- No, no, that's all, absolutely. Thank you very much, Ian.

0:14:28 > 0:14:30- Thank you.- Right, OK.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33- I think you pull it, actually. - Yes, thank you.

0:14:33 > 0:14:34Thank you, Daniel.

0:14:50 > 0:14:54OK, and you're being good? You know what I mean by that, don't you, Kieran? Good?

0:14:54 > 0:14:56Good boy.

0:14:56 > 0:14:58It's 10 o'clock at night,

0:14:58 > 0:15:01and Kay is still working on her sustainability audit.

0:15:01 > 0:15:02OK.

0:15:02 > 0:15:04Is...is Harry's mother there, please?

0:15:04 > 0:15:08OK. Could you put her on? And, Kieran, I want you to promise me that you won't...

0:15:08 > 0:15:11Hi, Sarah, hi. How are you?

0:15:11 > 0:15:12I'm good, thank you, good, yes.

0:15:12 > 0:15:16Look, thank you so much for letting Kieran hang out with Harry tonight.

0:15:16 > 0:15:18No, no, he's absolutely fine.

0:15:18 > 0:15:20It's stopped weeping now, so...

0:15:22 > 0:15:24Having looked closely again at all the evidence on the future

0:15:24 > 0:15:29of the stadium, she's now come to a revised conclusion

0:15:29 > 0:15:35that it is the Spurs bid and not the West Ham bid that satisfies the key sustainability criteria.

0:15:35 > 0:15:36- MAN:- What made you change your mind?

0:15:36 > 0:15:39I mean a running track's fine from a legacy point of view.

0:15:39 > 0:15:40I mean, if that's your thing,

0:15:40 > 0:15:43but from a sustainability perspective, what the Tottenham Hotspur bid

0:15:43 > 0:15:46made clear was that if you have a football pitch with a running track

0:15:46 > 0:15:50round the outside, it's not really sustainable at all. It's neither one thing or the other.

0:15:50 > 0:15:51- Could it be both?- Pardon?

0:15:51 > 0:15:52- I mean, is that...?- No.

0:15:52 > 0:15:55If it can't be neither, then how can it possibly be both?

0:15:55 > 0:15:58You have to think this stuff through logically. I really think that.

0:16:05 > 0:16:09By the next morning, it's Wednesday.

0:16:09 > 0:16:10- Hey, Ian.- Morning, hi.

0:16:10 > 0:16:12How are you today?

0:16:12 > 0:16:14- Yes, I'm good, thanks, not too bad. - Great.

0:16:14 > 0:16:17- So the sustainability audit came through. - So I see. Have you had time...?

0:16:17 > 0:16:19- Yeah, I had a quick look. - Really? And?

0:16:19 > 0:16:21- Yeah, it's pretty out there. - Really?

0:16:21 > 0:16:24- 47 pages long.- Oh, God. - I know. I won't tell you how it ends.

0:16:24 > 0:16:27I mean what does she want to do? Serialise it on Radio 4?

0:16:38 > 0:16:40Morning. Hi.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44- Yes, hi, how are you? - Have you got a minute?

0:16:44 > 0:16:46- Absolutely.- Great.

0:16:47 > 0:16:48Right, OK.

0:16:49 > 0:16:51- Couple of things.- Right, OK.

0:16:51 > 0:16:53I've just had a long phone call from upstairs.

0:16:53 > 0:16:55- Oh, right, yes. How is he? - How is he?

0:16:55 > 0:16:58OK. Um...

0:16:58 > 0:17:01Presumably you've seen the press release this morning...

0:17:01 > 0:17:05- or you've, you know, seen a paper or heard the news or...- I mean, things have... I've been a bit...

0:17:05 > 0:17:07Right, OK. Well, the BBC News website, for instance.

0:17:07 > 0:17:08Right, OK.

0:17:08 > 0:17:10Uh, right, OK. Where are we here...?

0:17:10 > 0:17:12Uh... OK. Right, here we are.

0:17:12 > 0:17:17"Coe: Britain's reputation will be trashed if Olympic stadium goes to Tottenham."

0:17:17 > 0:17:19- Right. - "In a strongly worded statement

0:17:19 > 0:17:21"in support of West Ham's bid,

0:17:21 > 0:17:24"London 2012 chairman Lord Coe..." And so on. You've probably got the basic idea.

0:17:24 > 0:17:26- Mm, yes.- So, OK,

0:17:26 > 0:17:30he releases that last thing yesterday, then in the middle of the night,

0:17:30 > 0:17:32he gets a 47-page document, e-mailed to him

0:17:32 > 0:17:35by someone in this office at 3.24 am,

0:17:35 > 0:17:38- including four page 19s...- That's actually a very important page.

0:17:38 > 0:17:43- I haven't finished.- Right, OK. - ..arguing the case for the Spurs bid and drawing reasonably heavily

0:17:43 > 0:17:47at various points on the wit and wisdom of their manager Harry Houdini.

0:17:47 > 0:17:49- Right, yes.- That's a nickname.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52- His real name's Harry Redknapp. - I thought that was a bit... - Just a detail...

0:17:52 > 0:17:54- No, I'll change that. Yes. - Kay...

0:17:54 > 0:17:55Yes.

0:17:55 > 0:17:58You know - I hope you know - that my default setting is pretty positive.

0:17:58 > 0:17:59Yes, absolutely, yes.

0:17:59 > 0:18:01But I have to say it's really rather hard

0:18:01 > 0:18:05- to try and find a way of putting a positive gloss on that sequence of events.- Mm, yes.

0:18:05 > 0:18:07Do you want to have a go?

0:18:07 > 0:18:10No, I'll definitely change the name on that. Definitely.

0:18:10 > 0:18:12By the way, who the hell is Simon Colenutt?

0:18:12 > 0:18:13Yes. Pardon?

0:18:13 > 0:18:16- This other guy I notice you've copied it to as well? - Ah, um, right. No...

0:18:16 > 0:18:19This is an internal document, Kay. Highly internal, in this case.

0:18:19 > 0:18:21- No, I think that's just a mistake. - Right.

0:18:21 > 0:18:24Because it starts with S, sometimes it guesses who you want to send it to.

0:18:24 > 0:18:26I don't know how you stop it.

0:18:26 > 0:18:28- Perhaps if you go to Preferences... - Who is he?

0:18:28 > 0:18:32Er, Simon's my ex-husband.

0:18:32 > 0:18:33- Right.- Yes.

0:18:33 > 0:18:36Your ex-husband's a journalist, isn't he?

0:18:36 > 0:18:41- Uh, yes, yes. He is, yes. - For The Guardian.

0:18:41 > 0:18:44But I'm not married to him any more, so, you know, um...

0:18:58 > 0:19:00- IAN:- The Jubilympic Village? - SIOBHAN: Sure, Totally.

0:19:00 > 0:19:03Thursday morning, and Ian is on his way with Siobhan

0:19:03 > 0:19:06to the meeting with the Clarence House press office.

0:19:06 > 0:19:09- Jubilympic opening ceremony... - Right, OK.- Jubilympicathlon...

0:19:09 > 0:19:11Can you stop it, please?

0:19:11 > 0:19:12OK. Here's the thing with this,

0:19:12 > 0:19:14once you've started, it's not easy. It's a breeder.

0:19:14 > 0:19:18- OK, I'm going to make the assumption you've got a plan B here... - Sure. That's cool.

0:19:18 > 0:19:20..and I'm going to assume it's a lot better than plan A.

0:19:20 > 0:19:22Mm-hm, I'm totally cool with that.

0:19:24 > 0:19:25There isn't a plan B, is there?

0:19:25 > 0:19:28OK, you make a plan B, you're already visualising failure.

0:19:28 > 0:19:30Exactly, that's correct.

0:19:30 > 0:19:32You visualise failure, you're going to fail.

0:19:32 > 0:19:33Yes, in this case, still correct.

0:19:33 > 0:19:35You fail, you fail.

0:19:35 > 0:19:37- Yes, I think you've pretty much nailed it.- Well, duh.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45- IAN:- Yes, absolutely. No, I saw that. And The Guardian too obviously, and The Mail.

0:19:45 > 0:19:46No, I haven't seen The Mirror yet.

0:19:46 > 0:19:47Yes, but on the positive side,

0:19:47 > 0:19:50virtually no-one reads The Independent, so that's all good.

0:19:50 > 0:19:54Following a rash of new press stories alleging confusion and chaos

0:19:54 > 0:19:58around the future of the stadium, Ian has had another call from Seb Coe.

0:19:58 > 0:20:01Absolutely, no, I mean the first thing to say, the message to get out there,

0:20:01 > 0:20:03is that we're not complete amateurs,

0:20:03 > 0:20:06someone DOES know what sustainability and legacy mean,

0:20:06 > 0:20:08and, furthermore, if we'd wanted a white elephant,

0:20:08 > 0:20:10we'd have gone right ahead and built one. So I think

0:20:10 > 0:20:13those are three really good, positive messages to...

0:20:13 > 0:20:14Right, he's gone.

0:20:14 > 0:20:15Right, good.

0:20:15 > 0:20:17OK,

0:20:17 > 0:20:22so here's what it is with this. I mean, legacy and sustainability, that's your problem right there.

0:20:22 > 0:20:23Right.

0:20:23 > 0:20:27- Who knows what that shit is, get over it.- Right, except that shit is why we got the Games in the first place.

0:20:27 > 0:20:29You've got to change up the agenda, Ian.

0:20:29 > 0:20:32- Change it up. - Great, and we do that by...?

0:20:32 > 0:20:34OK, all you do is you just make West Ham the sexy option.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37Forget about legacy and sustainability. Sexiness is your solution here.

0:20:37 > 0:20:40Right, in that case, things are worse than I thought.

0:20:40 > 0:20:41DOOR OPENS

0:20:41 > 0:20:45Siobhan! Hi, good to meet you, finally!

0:20:45 > 0:20:48- Sure, yeah. you too. You too. - Sorry to keep you waiting.

0:20:48 > 0:20:51- Cool so this is Ian Fletcher. - Yes, hi, Ian.

0:20:51 > 0:20:53And so Ian's like, head of, you know...

0:20:53 > 0:20:56- Head of Deliverance, yes. - So he's basically like Mr Olympics.

0:20:56 > 0:20:58Wow, fabulous!

0:20:58 > 0:21:02Their meeting is with senior Clarence House press officer, Ben Farrell,

0:21:02 > 0:21:04and head of Royal permissions, Anna Priestly.

0:21:04 > 0:21:08- So, first thing I have to tell you is we love Jubilympics. Don't we, Anna?- Yep.

0:21:08 > 0:21:09- We love it.- Great.

0:21:09 > 0:21:12- I just want to put that out there at the start.- Sure.

0:21:12 > 0:21:15We think it's got that x factor. That real, hey-check-this-out quality

0:21:15 > 0:21:17- we're constantly looking for here. - Yeah.

0:21:17 > 0:21:19It's terrific, it truly is. But you know what, we can't use it.

0:21:19 > 0:21:22- You... Say again?- Oh, dear. - I know,

0:21:22 > 0:21:24- but we can't. Can we, Anna?- No.

0:21:24 > 0:21:26Well, that is disappointing.

0:21:26 > 0:21:29No, listen, we got very close with this one, really close, but...

0:21:29 > 0:21:31Obviously, I can't go into details, but then we hit a problem.

0:21:31 > 0:21:34- Problem? - We hit an executive problem.- Right.

0:21:34 > 0:21:37- Oh, no way, guys.- What can I say? Welcome to our world.

0:21:37 > 0:21:40But, hey, we really want to do something here,

0:21:40 > 0:21:43we think it's a terrific idea in principle, we want to keep that door open.

0:21:43 > 0:21:47- Sure.- Absolutely. - So, we're really keen to hear what else you've got, Siobhan.

0:21:47 > 0:21:48- Yes.- No, sure.

0:21:48 > 0:21:50- Me too.- Sure. Totally.

0:21:53 > 0:21:55- I had a look at all the IOC guff. - Yeah, I did too.

0:21:55 > 0:22:00And we're fine, aren't we? As long as they don't all want to go to the toilet at the same time.

0:22:00 > 0:22:02- Well, you say that...- What are the chances of that happening?

0:22:02 > 0:22:06- That is your nightmare scenario, obviously.- There's a formula that works - all we need to do is find it.

0:22:06 > 0:22:09Yeah, the formula is everyone keep your legs crossed, basically.

0:22:09 > 0:22:12Back at the ODC, Head of Contracts, Nick Jowett,

0:22:12 > 0:22:15and Head of Infrastructure, Graham Hitchins,

0:22:15 > 0:22:18have been looking hard at the issue of sanitary accommodation for athletes

0:22:18 > 0:22:20in the Olympic Village.

0:22:20 > 0:22:23- If you look at tinkle time with the urinals, versus... - Hang on just a minute. Tinkle time?

0:22:23 > 0:22:25- Yeah.- You are kidding me?!

0:22:25 > 0:22:29Don't blame me. That's already out there, that's what they call it in the sanitary world.

0:22:29 > 0:22:32That's great, but I'm not from the sanitary world - I'm from Yorkshire.

0:22:32 > 0:22:34Right, so if you look at the average tinkle time

0:22:34 > 0:22:36compared to the average plippity-ploppy time...

0:22:36 > 0:22:38OK, I made that up, I don't know what they call that.

0:22:38 > 0:22:39Hellfire!

0:22:39 > 0:22:42- What do you want to call it?- Let's stick to the numbers, shall we?

0:22:42 > 0:22:44OK, let's call it number one time and number two time.

0:22:44 > 0:22:46OK, now you're just taking the piss.

0:22:47 > 0:22:52And so then she then hands it up to the guy in the big shorts, and he takes it

0:22:52 > 0:22:55- and then runs...- Siobhan, I'm going to stop you there.

0:22:55 > 0:22:57- Sure.- Anna?

0:22:57 > 0:22:59I see where you're going with the whole Chariots Of Fire thing...

0:22:59 > 0:23:02OK. Sure, totally.

0:23:02 > 0:23:03But...we might just pass on that one.

0:23:03 > 0:23:05OK, cool.

0:23:05 > 0:23:08- But keep 'em coming. This is fun! - OK, um...

0:23:08 > 0:23:12OK. OK, OK, OK, so here's the thing.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15Um, OK, the thing is, um... Here's what we do with this. OK.

0:23:15 > 0:23:18Um, so this is it, the thing is, um....

0:23:18 > 0:23:24- Shall I tell you what we're hoping to achieve here in an ideal world? - OK. Totally, yeah. That could work.

0:23:24 > 0:23:27OK. Obviously 2012 is a really big year for us.

0:23:27 > 0:23:28Totally, so...

0:23:28 > 0:23:30- I'm going to keep going, if that's OK?- OK, sure.

0:23:30 > 0:23:32It's a big year for us, which is great,

0:23:32 > 0:23:35but there's a feeling at this end, from where we're looking at it,

0:23:35 > 0:23:39that the whole Jubilee thing, it's all got a bit top-heavy recently.

0:23:39 > 0:23:40Top heavy?

0:23:40 > 0:23:42- Yeah.- Yup.

0:23:42 > 0:23:45The feeling is that it's too much about the past as opposed to the future,

0:23:45 > 0:23:48- too much about the weight of tradition.- Too much about the Queen!

0:23:48 > 0:23:50So, yeah. So, the...

0:23:50 > 0:23:54the feeling is that somehow building a bridge with you guys

0:23:54 > 0:23:56could maybe help point us away from all that,

0:23:56 > 0:24:00towards something younger, more vibrant, more to do with the future.

0:24:00 > 0:24:01Cool.

0:24:01 > 0:24:04- We talk a lot here about the idea of inheritance.- Right. Do you?- Yeah.

0:24:04 > 0:24:06- Yup.- It's become a bit of a buzz word for us.

0:24:06 > 0:24:08Right, OK, forgive me, I don't know anything about branding...

0:24:08 > 0:24:10- Sure, so, um...- But what would happen if...

0:24:10 > 0:24:13Sorry, Siobhan. ..what would happen if we could all agree, for instance,

0:24:13 > 0:24:18that the Jubilee was to be referred to as the 2012 Diamond Jubilee?

0:24:18 > 0:24:202012 Diamond Jubilee.

0:24:21 > 0:24:22Holy shit.

0:24:22 > 0:24:26I mean, I'm just making this up, obviously,

0:24:26 > 0:24:30but you'd get added value every time it was Googled or Tweeted or whatever,

0:24:30 > 0:24:32and frankly so would we.

0:24:32 > 0:24:36OK, OK, so, guys, guys, here's the thing. Here's what we do here, we flip it.

0:24:36 > 0:24:38Flip it?

0:24:38 > 0:24:39Jubilee 2012.

0:24:39 > 0:24:41Jubilee 2012.

0:24:41 > 0:24:45Yeah, it's like Team GB. Those guys totally sucked until we flipped them.

0:24:45 > 0:24:46Anna?

0:24:46 > 0:24:48Really, you think?

0:24:48 > 0:24:51We may have to jump him in the garden with this one.

0:24:51 > 0:24:55OK, well, good work, everyone! He's good!

0:24:55 > 0:24:57Hey! I love this job, I so love it.

0:24:57 > 0:25:02Ben, just out of interest, you don't happen to know if the Prince is a West Ham supporter?

0:25:02 > 0:25:06I... I'll have to check up on that and get back to you, Ian.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08- Yes, but could he be, though? In principle?- Anna?

0:25:16 > 0:25:21So basically what we've done is we've taken urinals out of design equation altogether.

0:25:21 > 0:25:24- Right.- Yeah, you don't need 'em, get rid of em.- What, completely?- Yeah.

0:25:24 > 0:25:25- Urinals, schmurinals. - It's Friday morning.

0:25:25 > 0:25:27We allowed to do that?

0:25:27 > 0:25:29I mean, as far as the IOC building regs or whatever?

0:25:29 > 0:25:31As far as the regulations go,

0:25:31 > 0:25:33if you classify every cubicle not in use as a urinal,

0:25:33 > 0:25:37which technically it is, if you think about it, you're fine.

0:25:37 > 0:25:39Yeah, cos all you have to do is... Yes, OK,

0:25:39 > 0:25:42- I think we're clear on the mechanics, Graham. - OK, guys, here we go.

0:25:42 > 0:25:44ON TV: Of course this isn't the first time

0:25:44 > 0:25:47the Prince has made controversial statements about matters such as this,

0:25:47 > 0:25:50often much to the anger of architects and planners.

0:25:50 > 0:25:54But this is clearly something he feels very strongly about, Katy.

0:25:54 > 0:25:58Now, we understand in the speech, he'll be coming out very strongly

0:25:58 > 0:26:00in support of the West Ham bid for the Olympic stadium.

0:26:00 > 0:26:03Turns out he's something of a closet Hammers fan himself.

0:26:03 > 0:26:06And, of course, we know he's long been passionate

0:26:06 > 0:26:08about both legacy and sustainability,

0:26:08 > 0:26:10but it's this word inheritance

0:26:10 > 0:26:13that keeps coming back into this thinking again and again

0:26:13 > 0:26:15about the stadium

0:26:15 > 0:26:18and indeed about what I gather he's already starting to refer to

0:26:18 > 0:26:21as Jubilee 2012 itself. Now, this is...

0:26:21 > 0:26:23TV OFF

0:26:23 > 0:26:25- Well, that's all good. - Yeah, great.

0:26:25 > 0:26:28- Yeah. Nice one.- I suppose the only thing we need now

0:26:28 > 0:26:31- is West Ham to go down and they could end up taking us with them. - Yeah.- Yeah.

0:26:31 > 0:26:35- Let's not think about that. They're not going to go down, are they? - Yeah, they are.- Yeah.- Yeah.

0:26:40 > 0:26:43Fortunately, Fi Healey has now been found an office of her own,

0:26:43 > 0:26:49which means that, at last, Kay Hope has room to be Head of Sustainability once again.

0:26:49 > 0:26:51Hi.

0:26:51 > 0:26:52Hi, yes.

0:26:52 > 0:26:54- How's it going?- Yes, fine. Yes.

0:26:54 > 0:26:56Having managed to manage up quite successfully,

0:26:56 > 0:26:59Ian is now left with some managing downwards to do.

0:26:59 > 0:27:02- Looking forwards rather than backwards with this whole thing...- Absolutely, yes.

0:27:02 > 0:27:06I've talked to Fi about this and I think it's right that you should have the inheritance brief.

0:27:06 > 0:27:09- Right.- If you're up for it. - Yes.- I think it sits well

0:27:09 > 0:27:11with the whole legacy, sustainability thing.

0:27:11 > 0:27:14No, I think there's a natural resonance there.

0:27:14 > 0:27:17Yes, right, well, that's the thing about sustainability, it's all about resonance.

0:27:17 > 0:27:20- Exactly, yes. Right. So that's all good?- Yes.- And on that thought,

0:27:20 > 0:27:25Seb's got very keen now on folding in the whole idea of inheritance into the announcement on Monday.

0:27:25 > 0:27:26Right.

0:27:26 > 0:27:31I just wonder if it might be possible to have another look at the whole audit thing with that in mind.

0:27:31 > 0:27:33- The whole audit thing? - Yes.

0:27:35 > 0:27:38You want me to start again and do an inheritance audit of both bids?

0:27:38 > 0:27:41Great. I think that's a really strong idea.

0:27:44 > 0:27:47Right, OK. We should make a move. Ready?

0:27:47 > 0:27:51- Yes, fine. You'll just have to remind me of the protocol.- Oh, God,

0:27:51 > 0:27:53- shall we practise that in the taxi? - OK.

0:27:53 > 0:27:55- Wow, look at you. Fabulous. - Right, well...

0:27:55 > 0:27:59- You work those shoes, girl. - Well, let's not get too... - No, Fi.- Yes, of course, yes.

0:27:59 > 0:28:01- Loving 'em.- Thank you, Daniel.

0:28:01 > 0:28:02Yes, they are nice.

0:28:02 > 0:28:05As part of the new relationship between the ODC and Clarence House,

0:28:05 > 0:28:08Ian has been invited, together with his Head of Legacy,

0:28:08 > 0:28:11to a reception at the Prince's Trust where the Prince of Wales

0:28:11 > 0:28:13is to make an important speech.

0:28:13 > 0:28:15It's always like that. Can you leave it now?

0:28:15 > 0:28:18- Sure. You got your invitations? - Yep.- Yep.- Thank you.

0:28:18 > 0:28:19Right, well, see you later.

0:28:19 > 0:28:20- See you later.- Bye!

0:28:20 > 0:28:23- Have fun, you guys. Enjoy. - Yes, OK. Thanks.

0:28:30 > 0:28:34# There may be trouble ahead

0:28:34 > 0:28:41# But while there's moonlight and music and love and romance

0:28:41 > 0:28:44# Let's face the music and dance

0:28:45 > 0:28:48# There may be teardrops to shed

0:28:49 > 0:28:56# So while there's moonlight and music and love and romance

0:28:56 > 0:29:02# Let's face the music and da-ance

0:29:02 > 0:29:06# Let's face the music

0:29:06 > 0:29:11# And da-a-ance. #