Episode 8

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0:00:02 > 0:00:06All across the UK, I'm glad to say people are fighting back against rip-off rogue traders,

0:00:06 > 0:00:09cold-calling conmen, you name it, they're fighting back!

0:00:09 > 0:00:12Well, we're all taking a stance against doorstep crime.

0:00:12 > 0:00:15We're also celebrating the work of award-winning police

0:00:15 > 0:00:18and Trading Standards teams from all over the UK.

0:00:18 > 0:00:22With your invaluable help, we've been busy spreading the message

0:00:22 > 0:00:24that these crooks have got to be stopped.

0:00:24 > 0:00:27Today, we'll learn how a successful partnership

0:00:27 > 0:00:30between Trading Standards and police in Bristol

0:00:30 > 0:00:32brought a rogue roofer to justice.

0:00:32 > 0:00:36The politest way I could describe these people is as pond scum.

0:00:36 > 0:00:38They're manipulative, they're predatory.

0:00:38 > 0:00:41The family raising awareness of doorstep crime

0:00:41 > 0:00:44to protect others in the community

0:00:44 > 0:00:49after their mother was robbed of an unbelievable £270,000.

0:00:49 > 0:00:54If there's one positive that's come out of what happened,

0:00:54 > 0:00:57it's the fact that more people are reporting this type of crime.

0:00:57 > 0:01:00Plus, the Midlands pensioner

0:01:00 > 0:01:04who was scammed not once, but twice by doorstep criminals,

0:01:04 > 0:01:07costing him £27,000.

0:01:07 > 0:01:09It's just so maddening that people...

0:01:09 > 0:01:11Here's someone who has already been abused

0:01:11 > 0:01:13and they're coming back for more.

0:01:18 > 0:01:20Hello and welcome to the programme

0:01:20 > 0:01:23and let's get straight away to our first story.

0:01:23 > 0:01:24We're off to Bristol,

0:01:24 > 0:01:27to find out why it took the combined efforts of both police

0:01:27 > 0:01:30and Trading Standards to bring a local rogue to justice.

0:01:33 > 0:01:35Over the past two years,

0:01:35 > 0:01:39Somerset and Avon Police tell us that they've seen a 60% reduction

0:01:39 > 0:01:42in doorstep crime, thanks to the work of two groups.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45The Senior Citizens' Liaison Team works in the community

0:01:45 > 0:01:48and supports those who've been targeted by conmen.

0:01:48 > 0:01:51But today, we're looking at another group.

0:01:51 > 0:01:55This one aims to catch cold-calling crooks in the act.

0:01:55 > 0:01:57The Doorstep Crime Team was set up in 2009

0:01:57 > 0:02:01and it consists of Trading Standards officers and police officers.

0:02:01 > 0:02:04It's fairly unique in that the Trading Standards officers

0:02:04 > 0:02:07are embedded with police and Trading Standards officers have access

0:02:07 > 0:02:11to all police systems for intelligence and that sort of thing.

0:02:11 > 0:02:14The Doorstep Crime Team has shown how effective

0:02:14 > 0:02:18joint working between police and Trading Standards can be.

0:02:18 > 0:02:20While the team is successful,

0:02:20 > 0:02:23they face challenges from rogues on their turf.

0:02:23 > 0:02:26Detective Sergeant Will Thorpe knows all their rotten tricks.

0:02:26 > 0:02:29There are several cases ongoing at the moment.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31One particular method that's being used

0:02:31 > 0:02:34is in relation to roofing work.

0:02:34 > 0:02:38What happens in particular cases is that the person coming

0:02:38 > 0:02:41to the door will say that a small amount of work needs to be done,

0:02:41 > 0:02:45a down pipe or a section of guttering.

0:02:45 > 0:02:48Once that person is there on the roof and doing some further work,

0:02:48 > 0:02:53the victim isn't able to see exactly what the state of their roof is

0:02:53 > 0:02:55or whether that work is necessary,

0:02:55 > 0:02:58and then once one bit of work gets done,

0:02:58 > 0:03:01from there on in, it's quite easy to carry on telling the homeowner

0:03:01 > 0:03:03that they require further bits of work.

0:03:03 > 0:03:06Roofing scams tend to be the most common

0:03:06 > 0:03:08and the most lucrative for rogues.

0:03:08 > 0:03:14Statistics show that only 10% of this sort of crime is reported

0:03:14 > 0:03:18and we can't do anything about it unless people tell us about it.

0:03:18 > 0:03:21There you have it, the message is clear,

0:03:21 > 0:03:25if you fall victim to doorstep crime, for goodness sake, report it!

0:03:25 > 0:03:2976 year-old Bridget Davison is glad she raised the alarm

0:03:29 > 0:03:30back in 2010.

0:03:32 > 0:03:33At the time,

0:03:33 > 0:03:36I was rather vulnerable because my husband had only died

0:03:36 > 0:03:38a couple of months before

0:03:38 > 0:03:44and it was very upsetting, as you can imagine,

0:03:44 > 0:03:48and so obviously, I wasn't functioning on all cylinders.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51In this vulnerable state,

0:03:51 > 0:03:55Bridget was all-too susceptible to a smooth-talking conman.

0:03:55 > 0:03:57I was just coming back from shopping

0:03:57 > 0:04:01and I noticed a van parked outside my house

0:04:01 > 0:04:04and there was a man standing on the end of the drive,

0:04:04 > 0:04:10so as I approached, he said could he speak to me for a minute

0:04:10 > 0:04:15and would I like my guttering renewed?

0:04:15 > 0:04:18So he quoted me about £300,

0:04:18 > 0:04:22which I thought was a reasonable amount, so I agreed to have it done.

0:04:22 > 0:04:26The early stages of this particular scam followed a fairly standard

0:04:26 > 0:04:28MO for rogue trading offences.

0:04:28 > 0:04:30As the work was started,

0:04:30 > 0:04:36the boss of the contractors came to the victim

0:04:36 > 0:04:39and said that she then needed her roof cleaned.

0:04:39 > 0:04:41With the roof washed,

0:04:41 > 0:04:45the conman then offered a sealant for Bridget's roof tiles.

0:04:45 > 0:04:48He told her this was essential to the protection of the building.

0:04:48 > 0:04:51He did not, by the way, quote a price.

0:04:51 > 0:04:55This man saw a vulnerable woman

0:04:55 > 0:04:59on her own, who obviously, I imagine, came across as

0:04:59 > 0:05:04not really thinking straight and thought,

0:05:04 > 0:05:07"Bingo. I can probably talk her into anything."

0:05:07 > 0:05:11Thankfully the family became aware of what was going on.

0:05:11 > 0:05:12They rang the police

0:05:12 > 0:05:14and the Doorstep Crime Team swung into action.

0:05:14 > 0:05:18They came the following day and were absolutely brilliant

0:05:18 > 0:05:22because the thing that had stopped Mum initially telling me

0:05:22 > 0:05:24was that she felt stupid.

0:05:24 > 0:05:27And the one thing the team didn't do at any time

0:05:27 > 0:05:29was make her feel stupid.

0:05:30 > 0:05:33Will Thorpe and his team believe that it's essential

0:05:33 > 0:05:35to show sensitivity to the victims.

0:05:37 > 0:05:39The impact on the victims is huge -

0:05:39 > 0:05:43the financial implications of losing their life savings

0:05:43 > 0:05:45for work that's not required.

0:05:45 > 0:05:49And also what we find is the embarrassment that they feel,

0:05:49 > 0:05:52that they've been taken on a ride

0:05:52 > 0:05:55and they just feel hugely ashamed of doing that.

0:05:55 > 0:05:57Later we'll find out

0:05:57 > 0:06:00how the Doorstep Crime team came to Bridget's rescue.

0:06:00 > 0:06:03Plus a watchful neighbour keeps an eye out for a Midlands pensioner

0:06:03 > 0:06:06who lost more than 20 grand to doorstep crooks.

0:06:06 > 0:06:10If you're the neighbour of someone who is vulnerable, keep checking.

0:06:10 > 0:06:12Check that they're OK,

0:06:12 > 0:06:14check that no one has done anything of this sort.

0:06:17 > 0:06:20Now, thanks to the wonders of modern technology,

0:06:20 > 0:06:23here's another example of doorstep crime.

0:06:23 > 0:06:27My mother was the victim of doorstep crime back in 2009.

0:06:27 > 0:06:31And my brother and I received an award in 2010

0:06:31 > 0:06:34for recognition of our helping promote

0:06:34 > 0:06:37the campaign against doorstep crime

0:06:37 > 0:06:40and I'd like to share this with you.

0:06:40 > 0:06:43Well, as you know, we do like a success story

0:06:43 > 0:06:44and when we looked into it,

0:06:44 > 0:06:48we found out the award was made by the Trading Standards Institute.

0:06:48 > 0:06:51There's a poignant element to this as well,

0:06:51 > 0:06:53because Helen and her brother David

0:06:53 > 0:06:55managed to turn a private family tragedy

0:06:55 > 0:06:58into something that helped their local community.

0:07:00 > 0:07:03This story reveals how devastating

0:07:03 > 0:07:06this kind of crime can be to a family.

0:07:06 > 0:07:08In 2009, 76 year-old Anne Cornock

0:07:08 > 0:07:13was admitted to hospital in South Wales with terminal cancer.

0:07:13 > 0:07:15As if this wasn't stressful enough for her loved ones,

0:07:15 > 0:07:19they soon heard news that was also harrowing.

0:07:19 > 0:07:21It makes you very, very angry

0:07:21 > 0:07:25because they basically destroyed the last year of her life.

0:07:25 > 0:07:29This is a lady who was hard-working, honest, kind,

0:07:29 > 0:07:33wouldn't hurt a fly, and these people persecuted her.

0:07:33 > 0:07:38And she ignored the early signs, the physical signs of her cancer,

0:07:38 > 0:07:43or contributed them to the stress caused by these people hounding her.

0:07:43 > 0:07:45Helen's talking about the shocking discovery

0:07:45 > 0:07:49that their mother had been the target of doorstep criminals.

0:07:49 > 0:07:52Helen's brother David is a television reporter,

0:07:52 > 0:07:54and he takes up his mum's story.

0:07:54 > 0:07:57Our mother was in hospital

0:07:57 > 0:08:02and I was staying at her home with my family.

0:08:02 > 0:08:06I discovered an opened letter from a bank that talked about an overdraft.

0:08:06 > 0:08:09This was a complete shock to us,

0:08:09 > 0:08:12not just because she had three pensions,

0:08:12 > 0:08:14we knew she had a comfortable income,

0:08:14 > 0:08:18but because an overdraft was so out of character

0:08:18 > 0:08:20for her to borrow money.

0:08:20 > 0:08:25And I sort of slept on it, and then I mentioned it to my wife

0:08:25 > 0:08:28and we thought we'd better mention it to my sister and we did.

0:08:28 > 0:08:32Then we discovered that the reason she had one

0:08:32 > 0:08:36was because she'd been the victim of an awful scam.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42Anne Cornock had been targeted by a ruthless gang

0:08:42 > 0:08:45who cold-called at her house to carry out work on her driveway.

0:08:45 > 0:08:49But they kept coming back, to extort money from her.

0:08:49 > 0:08:54She'd been subject to a barrage of visits.

0:08:54 > 0:08:56Cold-callers, people chasing her for money.

0:08:56 > 0:09:01People ringing her all the time, people demanding money

0:09:01 > 0:09:06which she had handed over and they kept this delusion going

0:09:06 > 0:09:10that she'd overpaid for some work on her house, on her drive,

0:09:10 > 0:09:12and if she gave them some more money

0:09:12 > 0:09:15they would make sure they got it back.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17It was all, it was all very sinister

0:09:17 > 0:09:22and it had been going on for 18 months. None of us knew about it.

0:09:22 > 0:09:25She kept it totally to herself,

0:09:25 > 0:09:32and she was really too proud and embarrassed to tell anyone about it.

0:09:32 > 0:09:34Like many victims of doorstep crime,

0:09:34 > 0:09:37Anne had chosen to keep these problems to herself,

0:09:37 > 0:09:39perhaps hoping they would go away.

0:09:39 > 0:09:41Then David and Helen saw for themselves

0:09:41 > 0:09:45the real impact that the crime had had on her.

0:09:45 > 0:09:48The day I had to go and tell her that my brother and I had found out,

0:09:48 > 0:09:50my mother was never the same person again.

0:09:50 > 0:09:56She was mortified, totally ashamed, and broke down on me.

0:09:58 > 0:09:59And...

0:10:01 > 0:10:04..she wasn't the same mother again, mentally.

0:10:04 > 0:10:07Of course it was heart-breaking for Helen and David

0:10:07 > 0:10:10to discover that their mother had suffered in silence

0:10:10 > 0:10:13at the hands of doorstep criminals for 18 months.

0:10:13 > 0:10:17In that time, they extorted a staggering amount of money from her.

0:10:18 > 0:10:22My mother handed over a number of cash sums

0:10:22 > 0:10:28and they would typically be things like £5,000, £6,000, £4,000.

0:10:28 > 0:10:32Looking at the dates, it seemed like almost every week

0:10:32 > 0:10:36she was handing out, this sort of money.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39That's shocking enough in itself, but David and his family discovered

0:10:39 > 0:10:42that the rogues hadn't stopped there.

0:10:42 > 0:10:46There were two bank transfers totalling £115,000.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49Those were the biggest transfers.

0:10:49 > 0:10:52The money, my mother was told,

0:10:52 > 0:10:57was going to the contractor's accountant.

0:10:57 > 0:11:02That turned out to be false, but that was the biggest sum.

0:11:02 > 0:11:06There was another bankers draft for £20,000, but she ended up

0:11:06 > 0:11:11paying out £272,310

0:11:11 > 0:11:14which was more than her whole house was worth.

0:11:14 > 0:11:19Just awful. More than £270,000, and for what?

0:11:19 > 0:11:21The criminals had done nothing to Anne's house

0:11:21 > 0:11:24to warrant any form of payment, yet incredibly,

0:11:24 > 0:11:27they had taken virtually every penny she had.

0:11:27 > 0:11:30David and Helen brought in the police,

0:11:30 > 0:11:33but it was difficult for them to gather evidence,

0:11:33 > 0:11:34because Anne was so ill.

0:11:34 > 0:11:38Detective Inspector Huw Thomas led the investigation.

0:11:38 > 0:11:40We actually interviewed her in hospital which was difficult

0:11:40 > 0:11:43for the family, it was difficult for everybody, really,

0:11:43 > 0:11:47because she was in such a poor state of health at the time

0:11:47 > 0:11:51that her recollection of events was quite poor.

0:11:51 > 0:11:54And therefore we never actually got beyond

0:11:54 > 0:11:57the people that the money got transferred to.

0:11:57 > 0:12:00But I'm certain there's more people out there than we've dealt with.

0:12:01 > 0:12:05The larger money transactions were made via Anne's bank,

0:12:05 > 0:12:07which meant the police were able to follow a paper trail,

0:12:07 > 0:12:09to one of the gang members

0:12:09 > 0:12:12From looking at the bank details

0:12:12 > 0:12:14and where the money transfers had gone to,

0:12:14 > 0:12:16we made some enquiries and we established

0:12:16 > 0:12:19that it had gone through the hands of a Sean White.

0:12:19 > 0:12:23As a result of our enquiries, then Sean White was arrested

0:12:23 > 0:12:26and subsequently dealt with for money laundering offences.

0:12:26 > 0:12:28On the 18th March 2010, Sean White was sentenced

0:12:28 > 0:12:31to two years imprisonment.

0:12:31 > 0:12:34The police also tracked down another member of the gang

0:12:34 > 0:12:38called Stephen George, who was given an eight month prison sentence.

0:12:38 > 0:12:42For the family, these sentences offered little consolation.

0:12:42 > 0:12:44I don't think there'll ever be a sentence

0:12:44 > 0:12:47that would suit this for what they did to my mother.

0:12:47 > 0:12:50What I do feel for future cases is that the mental torture

0:12:50 > 0:12:52should be taken into consideration as well

0:12:52 > 0:12:56We were very heartened that the judge took it seriously

0:12:56 > 0:12:59from his comments. He was limited in what he could do

0:12:59 > 0:13:04in terms of sentencing, but it did send a signal

0:13:04 > 0:13:08that if you're involved in this sort of scam, and you get found out,

0:13:08 > 0:13:11and you will be found out, you'll get sent to jail.

0:13:11 > 0:13:15The tragedy of what happened to Anne continues to be painful,

0:13:15 > 0:13:18but Helen and David have raised awareness in the local community,

0:13:18 > 0:13:21in the hope that no other family should have to experience

0:13:21 > 0:13:24the same heartache that they've been through.

0:13:24 > 0:13:26The police and Trading Standards

0:13:26 > 0:13:30got in touch with us after the court case

0:13:30 > 0:13:34because they were concerned about this sort of crime

0:13:34 > 0:13:39and they wanted to highlight the dangers of it.

0:13:39 > 0:13:43They asked us if we could help with a campaign launch,

0:13:43 > 0:13:45which we were happy to do.

0:13:45 > 0:13:50We gave interviews and helped with the publicity for that,

0:13:50 > 0:13:53just to highlight the sort of scams that are going on,

0:13:53 > 0:13:55and the way that they target people

0:13:55 > 0:13:58who you might not think are vulnerable,

0:13:58 > 0:14:02but clearly they're still managing to get away with it.

0:14:02 > 0:14:06In 2010, David and his sister Helen were awarded

0:14:06 > 0:14:09with a Trading Standards Institute Local Heroes Award,

0:14:09 > 0:14:12for their work in highlighting doorstep crime.

0:14:12 > 0:14:15We received the nomination

0:14:15 > 0:14:18for David Cornock and Helen O'Neil in 2010.

0:14:18 > 0:14:23It came from the Welsh heads of Trading Standards.

0:14:23 > 0:14:25And as soon as we read the nomination,

0:14:25 > 0:14:29we were just as impressed and inspired as they had been,

0:14:29 > 0:14:33just by what they had achieved in such a short period of time

0:14:33 > 0:14:35and how they had been able

0:14:35 > 0:14:39to put aside their personal grief and anger and frustration,

0:14:39 > 0:14:42following their mother's death,

0:14:42 > 0:14:45and channel all that into helping others.

0:14:45 > 0:14:47So it really was an inspiring story

0:14:47 > 0:14:50and we wanted to recognise that with our Hero award.

0:14:50 > 0:14:52It was great that it was acknowledged

0:14:52 > 0:14:55that my brother and I had helped to raise awareness

0:14:55 > 0:14:57against doorstep crime,

0:14:57 > 0:15:01but bitter, however, because of what our mother had to endure,

0:15:01 > 0:15:04and we'd had to experience that first hand as a family.

0:15:06 > 0:15:09I can truly understand how Helen feels.

0:15:09 > 0:15:12Even so, Detective Inspector Thomas has noticed the big difference

0:15:12 > 0:15:13their publicity work has made

0:15:13 > 0:15:17in tackling doorstep crime in South Wales.

0:15:17 > 0:15:21If there's one positive that's come out of what happened to Mrs Cornock,

0:15:21 > 0:15:25it's the fact that more people are reporting this type of crime.

0:15:25 > 0:15:28And it doesn't matter whether it's £200, £20,000

0:15:28 > 0:15:31or in this case £270,000.

0:15:31 > 0:15:33You're not wasting anybody's time.

0:15:33 > 0:15:36If you think that something suspicious is going on,

0:15:36 > 0:15:38please, please ring us.

0:15:38 > 0:15:42There's nothing more frustrating than knowing that stuff's going on

0:15:42 > 0:15:44but not being told about it.

0:15:44 > 0:15:46If you see people acting suspiciously in the area

0:15:46 > 0:15:49or if you've just heard something about somebody having work done

0:15:49 > 0:15:52and they're not quite happy with it, give us a ring.

0:15:52 > 0:15:55If we can't help you, we'll certainly find somebody who can.

0:15:55 > 0:15:59It's incredible that David and Helen have been able to turn

0:15:59 > 0:16:01such a tragic sequence of events

0:16:01 > 0:16:04into something positive for their community.

0:16:04 > 0:16:08Our deepest thanks go to them for sharing a very painful story.

0:16:11 > 0:16:14It's a timely reminder that we must all look out for each other,

0:16:14 > 0:16:19and in particular, those in our community who need a helping hand.

0:16:19 > 0:16:22Now, it's time to return to Bristol.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26Earlier, we looked at the work of the Doorstep Crime Team,

0:16:26 > 0:16:31and the rogue roofer who tried to con 76 year-old Bridget Davison.

0:16:33 > 0:16:36I felt that I'd been a bit of a sucker, really,

0:16:36 > 0:16:39to be persuaded into something

0:16:39 > 0:16:42that didn't really need doing,

0:16:42 > 0:16:45and also to accept that they should do it

0:16:45 > 0:16:48without first of all getting a price.

0:16:48 > 0:16:52Bridget had been recently bereaved. Now she felt trapped.

0:16:52 > 0:16:57The man who I had first spoken to outside

0:16:57 > 0:16:59came into the house.

0:16:59 > 0:17:03And he said to me that he'd got a very good deal

0:17:03 > 0:17:09on a spray for the roof which would protect it and seal it

0:17:09 > 0:17:14and that he'd noticed that I had quite a bit of moss on my roof tiles

0:17:14 > 0:17:17and that that didn't do them any good.

0:17:17 > 0:17:21No price had been quoted for this particular work,

0:17:21 > 0:17:23which was later found to be unnecessary.

0:17:24 > 0:17:30My brother turned up and did try and talk to the second-in-command

0:17:30 > 0:17:34'to get a price from him. This chap was very vague,'

0:17:34 > 0:17:37wouldn't really come up with anything concrete,

0:17:37 > 0:17:42but gave a vague price of about £4,000.

0:17:43 > 0:17:45Yes, you heard right. £4,000!

0:17:45 > 0:17:48And when experts looked at what had been done,

0:17:48 > 0:17:50it clearly wasn't worth it.

0:17:50 > 0:17:54In this particular case, we commissioned a surveyor's report,

0:17:54 > 0:17:57and he found that the work was not only completely worthless,

0:17:57 > 0:18:01but it may have actually led to damage to the roof as well.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03And, in fact, we were never able to establish

0:18:03 > 0:18:05the technical specifications

0:18:05 > 0:18:08of what product had allegedly been put on the roof.

0:18:08 > 0:18:11Roofing cons are the most complained-about cold calling scams.

0:18:11 > 0:18:14Victims stand to lose a small fortune.

0:18:14 > 0:18:17'The average cost is between £5,000 and £10,000.

0:18:17 > 0:18:19'When they discover that that work hasn't been done properly,'

0:18:19 > 0:18:24they feel foolish, and they won't come forward and report it.

0:18:24 > 0:18:28What we generally find is that relatives come and contact us.

0:18:28 > 0:18:30'The cost is then even more significant'

0:18:30 > 0:18:33because they've got to repair completely valueless work.

0:18:35 > 0:18:38Thankfully Bridget had not yet paid for this scam.

0:18:38 > 0:18:42The rogue had arranged to collect the money a few days later.

0:18:42 > 0:18:45The Doorstep Crime team quickly set up plain clothes officers,

0:18:45 > 0:18:48to catch the crook when he came back.

0:18:48 > 0:18:51That morning, we were waiting. And within a short time,

0:18:51 > 0:18:54around the time that he said he was going to come back,

0:18:54 > 0:18:57we saw him turn up and approach the lady's front doorstep.

0:18:57 > 0:19:00Myself and my colleagues approached him,

0:19:00 > 0:19:03and as I was walking down the driveway

0:19:03 > 0:19:06I identified myself to him as a police officer.

0:19:06 > 0:19:08At that particular point,

0:19:08 > 0:19:11I remember the colour draining from his face. He was shocked.

0:19:11 > 0:19:16Bridget dodged this crime, just in the nick of time.

0:19:16 > 0:19:20The Police and the Trading Standards people were very good, I thought.

0:19:20 > 0:19:23Very thorough and quick

0:19:23 > 0:19:27and supportive of me in a vulnerable position.

0:19:27 > 0:19:30The conman, Billy Brede,

0:19:30 > 0:19:35was convicted in March 2011 of two offences of unfair trading.

0:19:35 > 0:19:39He was given a fine and ordered to pay costs of more than £4,000.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45When we do get that sort of result from a case,

0:19:45 > 0:19:47it's extremely satisfying

0:19:47 > 0:19:49because we're taking rogue traders off the street

0:19:49 > 0:19:52and we're protecting members of the public at the same time.

0:19:52 > 0:19:54When the case came to court,

0:19:54 > 0:19:58I felt very relieved that they had, erm...

0:19:59 > 0:20:04..caught him and that he wouldn't perhaps be able to con anybody else

0:20:04 > 0:20:08into having a job done that they didn't really need or want.

0:20:08 > 0:20:12The politest way I could describe these people is as pond scum.

0:20:12 > 0:20:14They're manipulative, they're predatory

0:20:14 > 0:20:19and they specifically target vulnerable, older people.

0:20:19 > 0:20:20Mainly women, I imagine,

0:20:20 > 0:20:24but men could find themselves in the same situation.

0:20:24 > 0:20:26And the thing with that generation

0:20:26 > 0:20:29is that they don't feel they can be rude.

0:20:29 > 0:20:32Well, you can be as rude as you like to these people.

0:20:32 > 0:20:34You don't owe them a thing. They're scum.

0:20:34 > 0:20:38I couldn't have put it better myself!

0:20:38 > 0:20:42Your letters and e-mails have continued to really intrigue us.

0:20:42 > 0:20:45Jane McDonald recalls a man knocking at her door

0:20:45 > 0:20:47and saying there were some slates loose on her roof.

0:20:47 > 0:20:50She said, "My brother-in-law's a builder.

0:20:50 > 0:20:54"I'll get him to take a look. Thanks for pointing it out."

0:20:54 > 0:20:57Apparently, he was still picking his jaw up from the floor

0:20:57 > 0:20:59as she shut the door promptly in his face.

0:20:59 > 0:21:02As it turned out, Jane's brother-in-law really was a builder,

0:21:02 > 0:21:06but later she realised the man could have been a con artist at the door,

0:21:06 > 0:21:08and judging from his reaction,

0:21:08 > 0:21:10he wasn't expecting the answer she gave.

0:21:10 > 0:21:14So a polite but firm rebuttal seems to be a very good way

0:21:14 > 0:21:16of dealing with unwanted callers.

0:21:16 > 0:21:19It certainly would have helped the man in our next story.

0:21:21 > 0:21:2487 year-old John Green was a well-known character

0:21:24 > 0:21:27in the West Midlands town where he'd lived for many years.

0:21:29 > 0:21:34He died in 2010, but his neighbour is keen to tell his story.

0:21:34 > 0:21:38He'd like to keep his identity private, so we'll call him Michael.

0:21:38 > 0:21:43John was always out and about. Everyone in the area knew him.

0:21:43 > 0:21:47He was just always on the lookout for how he could help.

0:21:47 > 0:21:49I looked out for John, we looked out for John,

0:21:49 > 0:21:53but he also looked out for us. It was a mutual swap of support.

0:21:53 > 0:21:57On a December morning in 2009, two men appeared at John's door

0:21:57 > 0:22:00claiming to be from a roofing company.

0:22:00 > 0:22:03They were in fact a pair of doorstepping rogue builders.

0:22:03 > 0:22:07Dean Anthony Madden was 42 at the time, and Mark Duggan was 44.

0:22:07 > 0:22:10They claimed that John's chimneys needed urgent repair.

0:22:10 > 0:22:15Also, that new building regulations meant the lead flashing on his roof

0:22:15 > 0:22:17was now of the wrong width and would need replacing.

0:22:17 > 0:22:20It was, of course, complete rubbish.

0:22:20 > 0:22:25The tactics Madden and Duggan used were scare tactics in a way.

0:22:25 > 0:22:27Mr Green, who was a vulnerable,

0:22:27 > 0:22:30'elderly man who lived by himself,

0:22:30 > 0:22:33'he's got no way of getting up on that roof'

0:22:33 > 0:22:37and checking whether the work needed doing.

0:22:37 > 0:22:42John agreed to the work at a staggering cost of £2,250,

0:22:42 > 0:22:46with a cash payment up front of £1,250.

0:22:46 > 0:22:50In typical rogue trader style, the gang started work on the roof right away,

0:22:50 > 0:22:53before John could even change his mind.

0:22:53 > 0:22:56Luckily, watchful neighbour Michael saw that something was up.

0:22:56 > 0:23:00I went to check what was happening and that's when he told me

0:23:00 > 0:23:04'that they were coming back to get more money from him.

0:23:04 > 0:23:07'I knew that it couldn't possibly be true and so I rang the police.'

0:23:07 > 0:23:10This local hero did the right thing,

0:23:10 > 0:23:12particularly as John had fallen victim

0:23:12 > 0:23:15to doorstepping criminals several times in the past.

0:23:15 > 0:23:18We would say to him that if anyone knocks on the door

0:23:18 > 0:23:20'telling you need some work done

0:23:20 > 0:23:24'come to us or our other neighbours, come to anyone and check it out.'

0:23:24 > 0:23:26Let us check it out.

0:23:26 > 0:23:29We knew how vulnerable he was and we wanted to support him.

0:23:29 > 0:23:31Now, thanks to Michael's phone call

0:23:31 > 0:23:33Mark Beesley and his Trading Standards team

0:23:33 > 0:23:35were ready and waiting with the police

0:23:35 > 0:23:38when the scammers came to call the following day.

0:23:39 > 0:23:44We saw the van drive up to the front of Mr Green's house.

0:23:44 > 0:23:46Dean Madden knocked on the door

0:23:46 > 0:23:50and he was a bit surprised to see a police officer standing there.

0:23:50 > 0:23:53Duggan and Madden were told to keep away from the house

0:23:53 > 0:23:56while a survey was carried out. And you've guessed it -

0:23:56 > 0:24:00the survey concluded that the work was quite unnecessary.

0:24:00 > 0:24:03Well, thankfully Duggan and Madden were arrested

0:24:03 > 0:24:05and a court date was set.

0:24:05 > 0:24:08But the really upsetting thing about this particular case

0:24:08 > 0:24:11is that having already been subjected to one scam,

0:24:11 > 0:24:14John's good nature was about to be taken advantage of yet again,

0:24:14 > 0:24:20and believe it or not he was scammed out of a staggering £26,000!

0:24:20 > 0:24:23After the people were arrested John told me

0:24:23 > 0:24:28that two other people had come to his front door posing as officials

0:24:28 > 0:24:31and telling him that because he was the one who had reported

0:24:31 > 0:24:34'the matter to the police that he was responsible for paying

0:24:34 > 0:24:37'all of the court costs and they, over a period of time,

0:24:37 > 0:24:40'took multiple thousands from him.

0:24:40 > 0:24:42'I don't know exactly how much it was, but it was a lot of money,'

0:24:42 > 0:24:46and again it's just so maddening that people...

0:24:46 > 0:24:48Here's someone who has already been abused

0:24:48 > 0:24:50and they're coming back for more.

0:24:50 > 0:24:53It was a shocking revelation

0:24:53 > 0:24:55and coupled with Duggan and Madden's scam,

0:24:55 > 0:24:58it would ultimately prove just too much for poor John.

0:25:01 > 0:25:05There's no doubt in my mind that the stress and worry

0:25:05 > 0:25:10of a lengthy investigation had some kind of impact

0:25:10 > 0:25:14on Mr Green and his health.

0:25:14 > 0:25:21I think in the end John wasn't as concerned about the financial loss

0:25:21 > 0:25:27as the stress and embarrassment of being duped,

0:25:27 > 0:25:28having his trust broken.

0:25:28 > 0:25:31That mattered more to him than the actual money.

0:25:31 > 0:25:33John died in October 2010,

0:25:33 > 0:25:38so he wasn't able to see Duggan and Madden taken to court,

0:25:38 > 0:25:42where it transpired that the pair had also scammed an elderly woman

0:25:42 > 0:25:44out of almost £7,000.

0:25:44 > 0:25:49Dean Madden and Mark Duggan admitted conspiracy to defraud

0:25:49 > 0:25:51and were jailed for two years, eight months,

0:25:51 > 0:25:53and two-and-a-half years respectively.

0:25:53 > 0:25:55'This case highlights the importance'

0:25:55 > 0:26:00that neighbours, friends and families can have

0:26:00 > 0:26:03'in protecting the elderly in our society.'

0:26:03 > 0:26:06If you are the potential victim, tell someone

0:26:06 > 0:26:09but also if you're the neighbour of someone who is vulnerable,

0:26:09 > 0:26:11keep checking. Check that they're OK,

0:26:11 > 0:26:14check that no-one has done anything of this sort.

0:26:14 > 0:26:17Many thanks, Michael, for sharing John's story with us

0:26:17 > 0:26:21and indeed for that very worthwhile advice.

0:26:21 > 0:26:24Now before we go, time for Trish Marshall's note.

0:26:24 > 0:26:27She says that West Sussex Trading Standards

0:26:27 > 0:26:29give window stickers to its residents on request.

0:26:29 > 0:26:32Then the stickers can be put on the front door

0:26:32 > 0:26:35to inform cold callers that they're simply unwelcome.

0:26:35 > 0:26:37I think that's a great tip. Thank you for that, Trish.

0:26:37 > 0:26:40We'd love to hear more about how you've managed to stop

0:26:40 > 0:26:42doorstep crooks from ripping you off.

0:26:42 > 0:26:47bbc.co.uk is our website, and that's exactly where you can find

0:26:47 > 0:26:49all the details about how to get in touch with us.

0:26:49 > 0:26:51May I just say thank you for watching

0:26:51 > 0:26:54and clearly I hope you'll join us again next time. From us, bye-bye.

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