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0:00:02 > 0:00:04Can what we eat really conquer some of the most common

0:00:04 > 0:00:06medical conditions and transform your health?

0:00:06 > 0:00:08Well, plenty of reports say it can.

0:00:08 > 0:00:10So today, we'll be putting that to the test.

0:00:14 > 0:00:17Every day, we're bombarded with conflicting information

0:00:17 > 0:00:19about our favourite foods.

0:00:21 > 0:00:23One minute we're told something's good for us,

0:00:23 > 0:00:25the next it's not,

0:00:25 > 0:00:29and we're left feeling guilty about what we're eating.

0:00:29 > 0:00:32Well, we've been wading through the confusion

0:00:32 > 0:00:35to separate the scare stories from the truth

0:00:35 > 0:00:38so you can choose your food with confidence.

0:00:43 > 0:00:46Hello and welcome to Food: Truth Or Scare,

0:00:46 > 0:00:50the series that clears up all the confusion and contradictory claims

0:00:50 > 0:00:51about the food we eat.

0:00:51 > 0:00:53And today, we're not just talking

0:00:53 > 0:00:55about the powers of individual foods,

0:00:55 > 0:00:57but what happens when you put those foods together.

0:00:57 > 0:01:00Which is really interesting, because there are a lot of claims

0:01:00 > 0:01:03about how changing your whole approach to food

0:01:03 > 0:01:05might transform your body, or indeed your brain.

0:01:05 > 0:01:08And in some cases, swapping entire food groups

0:01:08 > 0:01:11is said to work wonders against certain conditions.

0:01:11 > 0:01:12So on today's programme,

0:01:12 > 0:01:15we're putting some of those ambitious claims to the test.

0:01:15 > 0:01:19And as you'll see, the very good news is that the ones that work

0:01:19 > 0:01:21really can make an amazing difference.

0:01:23 > 0:01:25Coming up - food and mood.

0:01:25 > 0:01:29Can changing your diet improve your mental health

0:01:29 > 0:01:31and even combat depression?

0:01:31 > 0:01:33There is so much information out there.

0:01:33 > 0:01:36One week, you read that something is good for your mood.

0:01:36 > 0:01:39The next week, you read it's not very good for your mood.

0:01:39 > 0:01:42It can be quite confusing and quite stressful.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45And the diet that involves only eating raw foods.

0:01:45 > 0:01:48Celebrities may love it, but many experts don't.

0:01:49 > 0:01:53Having a lack of vitamin B12 can increase your risk

0:01:53 > 0:01:58for cardiovascular disease, and we actually know that for some foods

0:01:58 > 0:01:59there are benefits to cooking them.

0:02:05 > 0:02:07So, Gloria, you're always lovely and happy,

0:02:07 > 0:02:10but are there any particular foods that put you in a good mood?

0:02:10 > 0:02:13At my stage in life, I base life on energy.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16If I have the right energy to do whatever it is I want to do,

0:02:16 > 0:02:18then my mood's going to be better.

0:02:18 > 0:02:21So eggs give me good energy, and I have eggs a lot for breakfast,

0:02:21 > 0:02:24and I can work all through the day virtually on that.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27Well, look, there's no doubt that what we eat can affect

0:02:27 > 0:02:31how we feel in the short term, but there are also a lot of claims

0:02:31 > 0:02:32about the long-term effects,

0:02:32 > 0:02:36especially when it comes to mental health conditions like depression,

0:02:36 > 0:02:39and while no-one's saying that diet should take the place

0:02:39 > 0:02:41of medication or professional help,

0:02:41 > 0:02:44I went in search of the truth about the foods that can help our mood.

0:02:49 > 0:02:53There's nothing like a plate of comfort food when we feel a bit low.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56What food would you go for to cheer you up?

0:02:56 > 0:02:58- Jollof rice.- Jollof rice!

0:02:58 > 0:03:01- Lots of veg, yeah.- Oh, lovely. Nice big plate of it?- Yeah.

0:03:01 > 0:03:04I do feel better after eating something like sweet potato.

0:03:04 > 0:03:06- OK.- Like a really good carb.

0:03:06 > 0:03:07I really like mashed potato,

0:03:07 > 0:03:09particularly when I'm feeling unwell.

0:03:09 > 0:03:11It's just something that I had as a child

0:03:11 > 0:03:13and it's always something that's very warm and comforting.

0:03:13 > 0:03:17Feel-good foods are one thing, but according to recent reports,

0:03:17 > 0:03:20what we eat could have a much bigger impact on our mental health

0:03:20 > 0:03:22than just giving us a comfort boost.

0:03:24 > 0:03:29Some stories claim food can fend off depression or even help overcome it,

0:03:29 > 0:03:33while others say the very foods many people turn to for comfort

0:03:33 > 0:03:35might actually cause depression.

0:03:36 > 0:03:39The reports all make different claims about what foods

0:03:39 > 0:03:42will make us feel good, but I want to delve deeper

0:03:42 > 0:03:46into which ones can have an impact on our long-term health,

0:03:46 > 0:03:48as well as just our mood.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52One person keen to understand that too is 54-year-old Lowell.

0:03:52 > 0:03:54He's a mental health nurse,

0:03:54 > 0:03:57but has also suffered with depression for the past decade.

0:03:58 > 0:04:02I think all my life I've suffered from depression on and off.

0:04:02 > 0:04:05I can get a little bit paranoid and a bit oversensitive

0:04:05 > 0:04:07if something goes wrong.

0:04:08 > 0:04:11When he's low, Lowell's no stranger to comfort food.

0:04:12 > 0:04:16When I'm feeling a bit flat, I tend to comfort eat.

0:04:16 > 0:04:19Maybe have a bar of chocolate or something, like...

0:04:20 > 0:04:25I know that would give me sort of an energy boost.

0:04:25 > 0:04:28But a bar of chocolate and a cup of tea,

0:04:28 > 0:04:30but I know it's very much a quick fix.

0:04:30 > 0:04:32And the rest of the time,

0:04:32 > 0:04:35Lowell admits his diet isn't exactly the healthiest.

0:04:35 > 0:04:37With me working 12 hour shifts,

0:04:37 > 0:04:40a lot of the food I would have would be convenience food.

0:04:40 > 0:04:44Processed. Such as ham,

0:04:44 > 0:04:46also crab sticks.

0:04:46 > 0:04:49Probably not that good for me.

0:04:50 > 0:04:54Depression is one of the most common mental health problems in the UK

0:04:54 > 0:04:56and it can have a devastating effect.

0:04:58 > 0:05:01Could you give us a sense of what it's like to live with depression?

0:05:01 > 0:05:04Because a lot of us would have no idea how that feels.

0:05:04 > 0:05:08Sometimes it can be more difficult for people to want to get up

0:05:08 > 0:05:10in the morning, to want to go out,

0:05:10 > 0:05:13to want to meet people. It can be a real slog

0:05:13 > 0:05:16because when your mood is so low,

0:05:16 > 0:05:18and if you're having sort of negative thoughts,

0:05:18 > 0:05:20sometimes you just want to stay in bed.

0:05:20 > 0:05:22You just want to be on your own.

0:05:22 > 0:05:27So sometimes even the most routine things or mundane things

0:05:27 > 0:05:29can seem like a real battle?

0:05:29 > 0:05:31Sometimes, Chris. Yeah, sometimes.

0:05:32 > 0:05:36Lowell treats his depression with medication, but he's keen to see

0:05:36 > 0:05:39if any of the claims about how diet might help are true.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41There is so much information out there.

0:05:41 > 0:05:44One week, you read that something is good for your mood.

0:05:44 > 0:05:46The next week, you read it's not very good for your mood.

0:05:48 > 0:05:52It can be confusing for people who are pretty desperate.

0:05:52 > 0:05:55If they're reading conflicting stories in a newspaper

0:05:55 > 0:05:57about what's good for them and what isn't good for them,

0:05:57 > 0:06:01it can be quite confusing and quite stressful for them.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04Mental health issues account for

0:06:04 > 0:06:08around one in every three sick notes issued by GPs.

0:06:08 > 0:06:12So if diet can help improve things for even just a fraction of people,

0:06:12 > 0:06:14it could make a huge difference.

0:06:14 > 0:06:17Lowell's keen to learn more, so he and I are meeting up

0:06:17 > 0:06:20with mental health dietitian Helen Barrett.

0:06:20 > 0:06:22Thanks for meeting us. This is Lowell.

0:06:22 > 0:06:23- Hello.- Pleased to meet you.

0:06:23 > 0:06:27Helen advises her patients on how a few simple changes to their diet

0:06:27 > 0:06:30can make big differences to their mental health.

0:06:30 > 0:06:34The three of us are going in search of the best lunch to do just that,

0:06:34 > 0:06:36and I've spotted something that looks just the job.

0:06:36 > 0:06:39What about this? This has got to be good for lunch, isn't it?

0:06:39 > 0:06:43What, fish? Yes. Yeah, so fish is a really lean source of protein.

0:06:43 > 0:06:45Oily fish is really good because

0:06:45 > 0:06:47it's actually a good source of omega-3.

0:06:47 > 0:06:51And omega-3 is known to reduce inflammation in the body,

0:06:51 > 0:06:54but it also has a role in the brain as well.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56Omega-3 fatty acids help keep

0:06:56 > 0:06:59the brain's internal transmitters healthy,

0:06:59 > 0:07:04along with other nutrients like magnesium, selenium, and B vitamins,

0:07:04 > 0:07:06which are also found in oily fish.

0:07:06 > 0:07:08The research is actually still quite new,

0:07:08 > 0:07:10and definitely more does need to be done,

0:07:10 > 0:07:14but there is quite a lot of research behind them to support their use

0:07:14 > 0:07:16in mental health.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18Here we go. So, look, we've got a vegetarian option here

0:07:18 > 0:07:22- which, on the face of it, looks like it would be a good option.- Yeah.

0:07:22 > 0:07:25But there's been reports recently that vegetarians are twice as likely

0:07:25 > 0:07:28to suffer with depression. What's that about?

0:07:28 > 0:07:30Well, unfortunately some of the micronutrients

0:07:30 > 0:07:32that are implicated in depression

0:07:32 > 0:07:35are more plentiful in animal products.

0:07:35 > 0:07:38Mainly the B vitamins and particularly B12,

0:07:38 > 0:07:41so B12 is actually only found in animal products,

0:07:41 > 0:07:45and so it's quite difficult for a strict vegetarian or vegan

0:07:45 > 0:07:47to get in enough of vitamin B12.

0:07:47 > 0:07:50If we don't, it could be linked with depression?

0:07:50 > 0:07:53They have a role in producing brain chemicals,

0:07:53 > 0:07:55so making sure we've got enough of those brain chemicals

0:07:55 > 0:07:58to be able to keep the brain healthy is definitely important.

0:07:58 > 0:08:00- You eat meat though, don't you? - Yes, I do.

0:08:00 > 0:08:02Yes, I like chicken.

0:08:02 > 0:08:05OK, so Lowell will be getting enough B12 presumably in his diet?

0:08:05 > 0:08:09Potentially, if you do eat meat and meat products.

0:08:09 > 0:08:13Although B12 is naturally found in meat, fish, and animal products,

0:08:13 > 0:08:17it can also be found in fortified foods like breakfast cereals

0:08:17 > 0:08:18and dairy substitutes.

0:08:19 > 0:08:23That doesn't mean the vegetarian option is off the menu entirely,

0:08:23 > 0:08:26but both Lowell and I choose seafood for lunch.

0:08:26 > 0:08:28One crab burger, and I'll have the squid and prawns, please.

0:08:29 > 0:08:33But one healthy lunch isn't going to have much of an impact.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36If diet's going to make a difference to Lowell's depression,

0:08:36 > 0:08:39he will need to change what he eats in the long-term.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42And over the past week, he's been keeping a food diary

0:08:42 > 0:08:46so that Helen can scrutinise his diet and recommend some changes.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49Straight away, she's picked up on something important.

0:08:49 > 0:08:52The number of portions of fruit and vegetables that you have

0:08:52 > 0:08:54throughout the day is on the lower side.

0:08:54 > 0:08:57So green leafy vegetables, that would be an option.

0:08:57 > 0:09:00So thinking about maybe spinach, broccoli, kale,

0:09:00 > 0:09:03those kind of things, and making sure that they're present

0:09:03 > 0:09:05in your evening meal.

0:09:05 > 0:09:08So why do I need to be eating more leafy greens, Helen?

0:09:08 > 0:09:11So, green leafy vegetables are a source of iron,

0:09:11 > 0:09:15- which can help us feel less tired, less fatigued.- Right.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17The other thing it's a good source of is folate.

0:09:17 > 0:09:21Folate is one of the B group of vitamins,

0:09:21 > 0:09:24and those vitamins are the ones that help support brain health

0:09:24 > 0:09:26because they help the production of brain chemicals.

0:09:26 > 0:09:29But there's a bigger factor in Lowell's food diary

0:09:29 > 0:09:32that Helen's sure is having an impact on his mood.

0:09:32 > 0:09:34Long shifts at work means he eats

0:09:34 > 0:09:37a lot of processed and convenience food

0:09:37 > 0:09:41that is likely to be causing big spikes and dips in his blood sugar.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44The aim is to try and avoid big swings between high and low

0:09:44 > 0:09:47blood sugar levels, because when they're high or low,

0:09:47 > 0:09:51it can make us quite irritable, quite tired, quite fatigued.

0:09:51 > 0:09:53So is that something that you can recognise?

0:09:53 > 0:09:55Sometimes I do, yeah.

0:09:55 > 0:10:00But sometimes I attribute it to the medication.

0:10:00 > 0:10:04It's probably more to do with if our foods are highly processed,

0:10:04 > 0:10:07they're more likely to be of the higher GI.

0:10:07 > 0:10:09GI stands for glycaemic index

0:10:09 > 0:10:13and it's basically a measure of how quickly carbohydrate and glucose

0:10:13 > 0:10:15is released into our blood stream.

0:10:16 > 0:10:19Low GI foods like whole grains, oats and pulses

0:10:19 > 0:10:21release their energy slowly.

0:10:21 > 0:10:25And whilst Lowell's diet already includes some low GI foods,

0:10:25 > 0:10:29Helen can see one simple swap that will boost that even more -

0:10:29 > 0:10:31his breakfast time white sliced loaf.

0:10:32 > 0:10:35One of the changes that I would recommend you make

0:10:35 > 0:10:38is maybe going for a seeded bread for your toast at breakfast time,

0:10:38 > 0:10:41- if you can. - Seeded bread. Why is that?

0:10:41 > 0:10:43Well, because it's got seeds on,

0:10:43 > 0:10:46it actually slows down the carbohydrate release

0:10:46 > 0:10:47into our blood stream.

0:10:47 > 0:10:50Seeded bread is actually a lower GI than wholemeal bread,

0:10:50 > 0:10:52which I think surprises a lot of people.

0:10:53 > 0:10:57Helen says that avoiding those big spikes and dips in blood sugar

0:10:57 > 0:10:59helps to keep your energy levels stable,

0:10:59 > 0:11:02and that can have a positive effect on your mood.

0:11:02 > 0:11:05So, even though our main courses are finished,

0:11:05 > 0:11:08dessert isn't on Helen's mental health lunch menu.

0:11:09 > 0:11:12This is the classic pick me up, isn't it?

0:11:12 > 0:11:15A nice piece of chocolate or a piece of cake to lift you,

0:11:15 > 0:11:18make you feel happy. Is that OK?

0:11:18 > 0:11:19It's everything in moderation.

0:11:19 > 0:11:23You know, every now and again. But if you were having these too often,

0:11:23 > 0:11:27those big spikes in blood sugar levels that we are trying to avoid,

0:11:27 > 0:11:30maybe not such a good idea.

0:11:30 > 0:11:32As well as having fewer desserts,

0:11:32 > 0:11:35Helen also said we should avoid too much coffee,

0:11:35 > 0:11:38because while a few cups a day is OK,

0:11:38 > 0:11:40too much caffeine can make you feel anxious.

0:11:40 > 0:11:42So, with that advice,

0:11:42 > 0:11:45Lowell heads home to stock up his kitchen in preparation.

0:11:47 > 0:11:51I've got my leafy greens. I've got my oily fish here.

0:11:51 > 0:11:53This is my seeded bread.

0:11:53 > 0:11:55It's not normally what we would eat.

0:11:55 > 0:11:59This would be a little bit different than my typical shop.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02Lowell's going to follow Helen's advice

0:12:02 > 0:12:05and see if changing his diet could help his mood.

0:12:05 > 0:12:08He won't see results overnight, but I'll catch up with him

0:12:08 > 0:12:12in a few weeks to see if he can tell any difference.

0:12:12 > 0:12:15There are lots of factors at play with our mental health,

0:12:15 > 0:12:18so how much does food contribute to the bigger picture?

0:12:18 > 0:12:21I'm hoping that Stephen Buckley from

0:12:21 > 0:12:23mental health charity Mind can tell me.

0:12:23 > 0:12:26Stephen, can you give me some sort of scale of the issue

0:12:26 > 0:12:29of mental illness in the UK at the moment?

0:12:29 > 0:12:31We think there's roughly one in four of us

0:12:31 > 0:12:33experiencing a mental health problem right now,

0:12:33 > 0:12:36so it's clearly a significant issue at the moment.

0:12:36 > 0:12:39And Stephen, what do you make of recent reports that suggest

0:12:39 > 0:12:42that certain foods or a certain diet can actually treat

0:12:42 > 0:12:44or even prevent some mental illnesses?

0:12:44 > 0:12:48Some of that research is interesting but I don't think it's yet

0:12:48 > 0:12:51well-developed enough to say with certainty that there are

0:12:51 > 0:12:55particular foods to eat that can improve mental health.

0:12:55 > 0:12:57Diet's just a small part of our mental well-being,

0:12:57 > 0:12:58it's not the whole picture.

0:12:58 > 0:13:00And there'll be many people who might have a brilliant

0:13:00 > 0:13:02and healthy diet, but they still need extra support,

0:13:02 > 0:13:04extra help with maintaining their mental health.

0:13:04 > 0:13:07There are other things as well that people can think about -

0:13:07 > 0:13:09make sure you're getting enough sleep,

0:13:09 > 0:13:11try and get a bit of physical activity in,

0:13:11 > 0:13:14maintaining good relationships with your friends or your colleagues.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17Also, people should remember to be a bit kind to themselves as well.

0:13:17 > 0:13:19You know, shouldn't strive for the perfect diet.

0:13:19 > 0:13:23Try and eat broadly healthily, have the odd treat, enjoy what you eat,

0:13:23 > 0:13:25but generally try and look after yourself.

0:13:26 > 0:13:30And in Northallerton, Lowell has taken that message to heart.

0:13:31 > 0:13:34OK, so we're starting the food diary.

0:13:35 > 0:13:39Steak is very rich in protein.

0:13:39 > 0:13:43The asparagus contains most of the vitamins that I need.

0:13:43 > 0:13:47And probably the most unhealthy aspect of this diet is the chips.

0:13:47 > 0:13:51Chips aside, Lowell's been able to work many of Helen's suggestions

0:13:51 > 0:13:54into his diet, and after all,

0:13:54 > 0:13:56everyone needs a little treat every now and again.

0:13:56 > 0:14:01I'm willing to determine myself to work on the diet.

0:14:01 > 0:14:02As you can see, I've got

0:14:02 > 0:14:05toasted granary bread, baked beans,

0:14:05 > 0:14:07poached eggs, and a cup of tea

0:14:07 > 0:14:10with semi-skimmed milk and sweetener.

0:14:13 > 0:14:14And five weeks later,

0:14:14 > 0:14:18I'm catching up with Lowell to see if he's noticed a difference

0:14:18 > 0:14:20after following Helen's advice.

0:14:20 > 0:14:23You've been trying the new diet. How has that been going?

0:14:23 > 0:14:25I think it's been going well, to be honest.

0:14:25 > 0:14:28I've been more disciplined. I've certainly been making an effort.

0:14:28 > 0:14:31And I've started to enjoy things

0:14:31 > 0:14:34that I've never eaten much of before.

0:14:34 > 0:14:37Sometimes with my work,

0:14:37 > 0:14:42I haven't been able to adhere to it as strictly as I would like to,

0:14:42 > 0:14:46but overall, I think, yes, I think I've done quite well.

0:14:46 > 0:14:49Excellent, and it's having the desired effect.

0:14:49 > 0:14:51You're feeling better within yourself?

0:14:51 > 0:14:54I would certainly say so, yes, Chris.

0:14:54 > 0:14:58And I mean that sincerely. I do feel it has made a difference, yes.

0:14:58 > 0:15:01It's great to hear that Lowell thinks his new diet

0:15:01 > 0:15:03is helping support his mental health,

0:15:03 > 0:15:07and he's fully committed to keeping it going long term,

0:15:07 > 0:15:11so he can hopefully see further improvements in the future.

0:15:11 > 0:15:12As Steve told me,

0:15:12 > 0:15:15it is complicated and there are no quick fixes

0:15:15 > 0:15:17when it comes to something like depression.

0:15:17 > 0:15:20But it is good to know that in this case,

0:15:20 > 0:15:23there is definitely some truth behind the headlines.

0:15:28 > 0:15:32For recipes that help to boost your mood and banish winter blues,

0:15:32 > 0:15:38visit bbc.co.uk/food where you'll also find other meal ideas

0:15:38 > 0:15:40for topics discussed in this series.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49There are healthy foods, there are healthy diets,

0:15:49 > 0:15:52and then there are healthy lifestyles.

0:15:52 > 0:15:55And the subject of our next film falls very much

0:15:55 > 0:15:56into the last category.

0:15:56 > 0:15:59It's called the raw food diet,

0:15:59 > 0:16:01and as well as having a big celebrity following,

0:16:01 > 0:16:03it takes a fair amount of commitment.

0:16:03 > 0:16:06But while its fans say that all the hard work results

0:16:06 > 0:16:08in a transformation to your health,

0:16:08 > 0:16:11critics say that in the long term, it could even be dangerous.

0:16:11 > 0:16:15So, never one to shy away from a scary report,

0:16:15 > 0:16:18Danny Craig's volunteered to give it a go and find out

0:16:18 > 0:16:20which side of the argument is right.

0:16:24 > 0:16:28Roast, steamed, fried, grilled or even flambeed.

0:16:28 > 0:16:30For lots of people, me included,

0:16:30 > 0:16:33half the pleasure of food comes from how it's cooked,

0:16:33 > 0:16:36so it's hard to imagine only eating food that's not been anywhere

0:16:36 > 0:16:38near a hob or an oven at all.

0:16:39 > 0:16:42But that's exactly what the raw food diet is all about -

0:16:42 > 0:16:45entirely unprocessed, uncooked meals.

0:16:46 > 0:16:50And the customers in this raw food cafe rave about it.

0:16:50 > 0:16:54The essence of raw food diet is organic, which means less chemicals,

0:16:54 > 0:16:57less insecticides, pesticides, fungicides, herbicides.

0:16:57 > 0:16:59And fresh, fresh!

0:16:59 > 0:17:01That's where you get the energy from.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04I think the thing I like the most about the raw food diet

0:17:04 > 0:17:07is it's about getting the most nutrients out of your food.

0:17:09 > 0:17:12While most of the people here just eat raw some of the time,

0:17:12 > 0:17:15the diet's hard-core followers do it full-time,

0:17:15 > 0:17:17and they're usually vegans, too.

0:17:17 > 0:17:20So, that's no meat or fish, no dairy,

0:17:20 > 0:17:24and absolutely nothing that's been cooked above 48 degrees centigrade,

0:17:24 > 0:17:28or refined, pasteurised, or processed in any way.

0:17:28 > 0:17:32So say goodbye to most aisles in the supermarket,

0:17:32 > 0:17:34including cereals, bakery, rice and pasta,

0:17:34 > 0:17:37and my favourite, baked beans.

0:17:37 > 0:17:41The theory behind why raw food is so good for you is that heating food

0:17:41 > 0:17:44destroys some of its natural enzymes

0:17:44 > 0:17:46and makes it harder for our bodies to digest.

0:17:46 > 0:17:49But its critics say that's rubbish,

0:17:49 > 0:17:52and headlines like this one claim followers would starve to death

0:17:52 > 0:17:53within six months.

0:17:54 > 0:17:56Now, that's scary,

0:17:56 > 0:17:59but I'm intrigued by how even part-time raw foodies

0:17:59 > 0:18:01talk about how great it makes them feel,

0:18:01 > 0:18:05so I'm going to join their ranks for just a few days.

0:18:05 > 0:18:07But first, I need some guidance from a committed follower.

0:18:09 > 0:18:12Theresa Hardman has been a raw foodie for the past six years.

0:18:12 > 0:18:13Come in.

0:18:13 > 0:18:15Theresa, I think it's fair to say you're a strong advocate

0:18:15 > 0:18:19of a raw food diet, but how did you end up eating like this?

0:18:19 > 0:18:22When I became vegetarian, I started to research raw food,

0:18:22 > 0:18:25and it just made so much sense to me.

0:18:25 > 0:18:27Six years ago, decided to just get rid of my cooker

0:18:27 > 0:18:29and just go whole hog.

0:18:29 > 0:18:31So, I don't have a cooker or a microwave

0:18:31 > 0:18:33or anything like that now.

0:18:34 > 0:18:39Instead of cooking, Theresa juices, blends, soaks and dehydrates

0:18:39 > 0:18:41her food, adding herbs and spices as well.

0:18:41 > 0:18:45Like most raw foodies, she doesn't eat meat or dairy,

0:18:45 > 0:18:48but there is more to this lifestyle than just fruit and veg.

0:18:49 > 0:18:53So, Theresa, what are the staples of a respectable raw food diet?

0:18:53 > 0:18:55Lots of seeds.

0:18:55 > 0:18:59Pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, there's lots of zinc in there.

0:18:59 > 0:19:02And you've got your omega fatty acids, which you really need.

0:19:02 > 0:19:06Nuts as well, lots of protein, and the flaxseed, very good fibre,

0:19:06 > 0:19:09which, as you know, is really, really important.

0:19:09 > 0:19:10Looking around Theresa's kitchen,

0:19:10 > 0:19:13I'm starting to worry that following a raw food diet might be

0:19:13 > 0:19:15a bit too complicated for me.

0:19:16 > 0:19:19But she hopes this simple raw cauliflower, rice and falafel dinner

0:19:19 > 0:19:22will convince me otherwise.

0:19:22 > 0:19:25So, Theresa, is it a hard diet to follow?

0:19:25 > 0:19:27Not at all. It's the easiest thing in the world

0:19:27 > 0:19:29because you haven't really got to cook anything.

0:19:29 > 0:19:30It's nature's fast food.

0:19:30 > 0:19:33It's packed full of vitamins and minerals, antioxidants,

0:19:33 > 0:19:35it's got protein.

0:19:35 > 0:19:37If you're eating like this three times a day every day,

0:19:37 > 0:19:40you'll find it really hard not to be healthy.

0:19:40 > 0:19:43So, you've been on a raw diet for six years now.

0:19:43 > 0:19:46Have you seen any negative impacts?

0:19:46 > 0:19:48I've seen none whatsoever, no.

0:19:48 > 0:19:52I've just become increasingly healthier and healthier.

0:19:52 > 0:19:55My skin's stayed clear, my hair's really strong and healthy,

0:19:55 > 0:19:57and I've got a lot more energy.

0:19:57 > 0:19:59In next to no time, dinner's ready.

0:19:59 > 0:20:02And I have to say, this is making me much more optimistic

0:20:02 > 0:20:05about trying raw food out for myself.

0:20:05 > 0:20:06Right, bon appetit. Enjoy.

0:20:06 > 0:20:08This is absolutely delicious. It's really hard to believe

0:20:08 > 0:20:10that there was no cooking involved in this at all.

0:20:10 > 0:20:13- Especially with the falafels.- Yeah. Everybody's amazed about that,

0:20:13 > 0:20:15because they taste like they've been cooked.

0:20:15 > 0:20:18And it doesn't have the texture you'd expect from raw food.

0:20:18 > 0:20:20For dessert, there's an amazing cake,

0:20:20 > 0:20:23and a good helping of advice to get me started.

0:20:23 > 0:20:25Back home, I'm stocking up on the staples

0:20:25 > 0:20:28to see me through my venture into raw foodism.

0:20:34 > 0:20:35I'm not going to lie.

0:20:35 > 0:20:38This is probably one of the most nerve-racking things

0:20:38 > 0:20:40I've ever had to do, because I'm a little bit out of my comfort zone.

0:20:40 > 0:20:44I still don't even know what my first meal is going to look like.

0:20:44 > 0:20:49Except a pile of vegetables, and outside of that, it's a mystery.

0:20:49 > 0:20:51But before I work out what's for dinner,

0:20:51 > 0:20:53there's something I need to do first.

0:20:53 > 0:20:55To avoid any temptation, I'm going to shut the oven off.

0:20:58 > 0:21:01But on the plus side, I'm going to save a few quid on electricity.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03I'm keeping a diary of my progress,

0:21:03 > 0:21:06and inspired by Theresa's amazing falafel,

0:21:06 > 0:21:08I'm giving something similar a try myself.

0:21:08 > 0:21:13Some beautiful raw ingredients here. Nice spices to go in now.

0:21:13 > 0:21:16But I'm still not sure I'm going to love the fact

0:21:16 > 0:21:17that they're not cooked.

0:21:21 > 0:21:23That's not something I'll be doing again.

0:21:23 > 0:21:25So, my first meal wasn't a hit.

0:21:25 > 0:21:29But it's not the taste of the food that's led to such heavy criticism

0:21:29 > 0:21:30of the raw food diet.

0:21:30 > 0:21:34In 2017, the British Dietetic Association,

0:21:34 > 0:21:36which represents dieticians like Priya Tew,

0:21:36 > 0:21:39said it was a diet no-one should follow.

0:21:39 > 0:21:42Strong words. What does Priya think?

0:21:42 > 0:21:44Obviously, we want people to be

0:21:44 > 0:21:46eating more fresh fruit and vegetables,

0:21:46 > 0:21:50but there can be an issue with not having enough protein in the diet.

0:21:50 > 0:21:54And also, there are some nutrients that you can end up lacking.

0:21:54 > 0:21:57So, vitamin B12 is one of those, for example.

0:21:57 > 0:22:02We know that having a lack of that can increase your risk factor

0:22:02 > 0:22:04for cardiovascular disease.

0:22:04 > 0:22:06And then with calcium,

0:22:06 > 0:22:09there has been some research suggesting that

0:22:09 > 0:22:11on the raw food diet,

0:22:11 > 0:22:15you could be at risk of having low bone mineral density.

0:22:16 > 0:22:19As well as nutrients, calories are high on that list, too.

0:22:19 > 0:22:21Some people will say, I'm going to go on a raw food diet

0:22:21 > 0:22:24because it will lead to me losing weight.

0:22:24 > 0:22:28And yes, it will lead to weight loss because you're having less calories

0:22:28 > 0:22:29and less energy.

0:22:29 > 0:22:34But that therefore means that you're going to be missing out

0:22:34 > 0:22:37on some energy that your body needs.

0:22:37 > 0:22:38It's this very risk that puts

0:22:38 > 0:22:40raw foodism in the headlines,

0:22:40 > 0:22:42with one prominent biologist claiming

0:22:42 > 0:22:43that with so many calories

0:22:43 > 0:22:45and nutrients missing from the diet,

0:22:45 > 0:22:47hard-core followers could starve to death

0:22:47 > 0:22:49after just six months.

0:22:51 > 0:22:54Of course, Theresa is proof that doesn't have to be the case.

0:22:54 > 0:22:56Priya says that with the right planning,

0:22:56 > 0:22:58it is possible to follow the raw food diet long-term.

0:22:59 > 0:23:03But even with extra supplements to replace any lost nutrients,

0:23:03 > 0:23:05she'd never recommend it,

0:23:05 > 0:23:07because the risk to your health of not getting it right

0:23:07 > 0:23:09could be very serious.

0:23:10 > 0:23:12So, if there is these risks involved,

0:23:12 > 0:23:16why do people believe that it has so many health benefits?

0:23:16 > 0:23:19I think it comes down to the fact it just looks so nutritious

0:23:19 > 0:23:21and it looks really healthy.

0:23:21 > 0:23:24But we actually know that for some foods,

0:23:24 > 0:23:25there are benefits to cooking them.

0:23:25 > 0:23:28So, if we take carrots, for example,

0:23:28 > 0:23:32we know that if you are to cook carrots,

0:23:32 > 0:23:34you actually get more beta-carotene from them

0:23:34 > 0:23:36than if you are to eat them raw.

0:23:36 > 0:23:40Would you say that a raw food diet is going to benefit me in any way?

0:23:40 > 0:23:42No, I don't think it will.

0:23:42 > 0:23:43I think overall,

0:23:43 > 0:23:47you could actually end up deficient nutritionally on a raw food diet,

0:23:47 > 0:23:51and you are far better off eating a great range of foods

0:23:51 > 0:23:53that are cooked and raw.

0:23:53 > 0:23:57Priya's concerns are about an exclusively raw diet,

0:23:57 > 0:24:00not one that includes some raw meals alongside cooked ones, too.

0:24:02 > 0:24:05And I have to confess, that sounds much less daunting

0:24:05 > 0:24:08than the idea of only eating raw food.

0:24:08 > 0:24:10So, back home, it's time to get the kids involved

0:24:10 > 0:24:12in tonight's raw dinner

0:24:12 > 0:24:15and my courgetti spaghetti is going down a storm.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17I've always got a little help in the kitchen with me.

0:24:17 > 0:24:20Albert, he's my chief taster today. So, Albert,

0:24:20 > 0:24:23do we give it a thumbs up or a thumbs down?

0:24:23 > 0:24:25Thumbs up.

0:24:25 > 0:24:27Now, if raw food advocates are right,

0:24:27 > 0:24:31that courgetti spaghetti, and indeed other raw veg too,

0:24:31 > 0:24:34will be better for me and Albert than the cooked version,

0:24:34 > 0:24:36because heating it destroys the nutrients inside.

0:24:37 > 0:24:39To put those claims to the test,

0:24:39 > 0:24:42I've brought a whole host of veg to food scientist Haleh Moravej

0:24:42 > 0:24:45at Manchester Metropolitan University.

0:24:47 > 0:24:48If I take my pepper, for example,

0:24:48 > 0:24:51what are the benefits or the pros and cons of cooking it

0:24:51 > 0:24:52and not cooking it?

0:24:52 > 0:24:55OK, red peppers are a really good source of vitamin C.

0:24:55 > 0:24:58Vitamin C is light sensitive and heat sensitive,

0:24:58 > 0:24:59so as soon is you cook it,

0:24:59 > 0:25:01the levels of vitamin C drop.

0:25:01 > 0:25:06If you can, having it raw probably is more nutritionally beneficial.

0:25:06 > 0:25:10The same goes for other veg too, including courgettes.

0:25:10 > 0:25:12High levels of vitamin C, high levels of potassium,

0:25:12 > 0:25:14high levels of vitamin K.

0:25:14 > 0:25:18The skin is actually going to have lots of different antioxidants.

0:25:18 > 0:25:20When you cook it, you do destroy

0:25:20 > 0:25:22some of these water-soluble vitamins.

0:25:22 > 0:25:25So I can see why raw food advocates believe

0:25:25 > 0:25:27it's a much healthier way to eat.

0:25:27 > 0:25:28But there is a twist.

0:25:28 > 0:25:31While my tomatoes will give me more vitamin C raw,

0:25:31 > 0:25:33Haleh says I'd miss out on a more powerful nutrient

0:25:33 > 0:25:35that's released during cooking.

0:25:37 > 0:25:40It has an antioxidant that is actually called lycopene,

0:25:40 > 0:25:43which gets released when you cook it.

0:25:43 > 0:25:47Research suggests that it's good for prostate cancer prevention,

0:25:47 > 0:25:50so we recommend it to men on a regular basis.

0:25:50 > 0:25:54So, cooked tomatoes will be a really good source of lycopene.

0:25:54 > 0:25:57So it seems like a fairly delicate balancing act.

0:25:57 > 0:25:58To see which might be better for me,

0:25:58 > 0:26:02I've asked Haleh to test the vitamin C and lycopene levels in two batches

0:26:02 > 0:26:04of marinara sauce - one cooked and one raw.

0:26:06 > 0:26:09The vitamin C was, as expected in the raw food,

0:26:09 > 0:26:12was at least three times more than the cooked food.

0:26:13 > 0:26:15The tomatoes also lost some of their lycopene content

0:26:15 > 0:26:18when they were cooked, but crucially,

0:26:18 > 0:26:21heating them would have made the remaining lycopene

0:26:21 > 0:26:23easier for the body to use. After ten minutes,

0:26:23 > 0:26:27the lycopene is around 25% easier for the body to absorb,

0:26:27 > 0:26:31so you get more from cooked rather than raw tomatoes.

0:26:31 > 0:26:34But Haleh says, cook them for more than ten minutes

0:26:34 > 0:26:37and the level of lycopene starts to drop.

0:26:37 > 0:26:39And after around half an hour,

0:26:39 > 0:26:42you could get more lycopene from raw tomatoes.

0:26:42 > 0:26:43Looking at the results,

0:26:43 > 0:26:47I think we do need a combination of raw and cooked food.

0:26:47 > 0:26:49We need both in the right amounts.

0:26:49 > 0:26:51As we always say in nutrition,

0:26:51 > 0:26:54moderation, variety and balance is the key.

0:26:56 > 0:27:00But as Priya told me earlier, it's not just lycopene.

0:27:00 > 0:27:02There are a whole host of other nutrients

0:27:02 > 0:27:05that can easily be missed on a raw food diet.

0:27:05 > 0:27:06While Theresa shows that with the

0:27:06 > 0:27:08right sort of passion and commitment,

0:27:08 > 0:27:10it is possible to follow it,

0:27:10 > 0:27:13I certainly couldn't sustain a diet that cuts out

0:27:13 > 0:27:15so many of the foods I enjoy.

0:27:15 > 0:27:17Time then for one last raw meal.

0:27:17 > 0:27:21Hopefully, this chocolate cheesecake will be a hit.

0:27:21 > 0:27:23Go on, try it. Let me know what you think.

0:27:23 > 0:27:27- Boo!- Yeah, I don't think that's a success, do you?

0:27:29 > 0:27:31You like it! Albert, it's all yours.

0:27:38 > 0:27:42Still to come - with countless claims and old wives' tales

0:27:42 > 0:27:44about how food affects arthritis,

0:27:44 > 0:27:46I'm finding out if any of them really work.

0:27:47 > 0:27:51- Do you ever try them?- Do you know what? I did try the aloe vera.

0:27:51 > 0:27:54- And?- No, I'm still creaky.

0:27:59 > 0:28:03All week, we're taking some of the latest fashionable food fads

0:28:03 > 0:28:05and asking whether their popularity is based

0:28:05 > 0:28:08on genuine health credentials or hipster hot air.

0:28:08 > 0:28:10So, what have you got for me today, Gloria?

0:28:10 > 0:28:13Feast your eyes on this. This is what's known as bone broth.

0:28:13 > 0:28:16- Right, OK, so what's that?- Are you familiar with that?- Not really.

0:28:16 > 0:28:18When I was a girl, my old mum, bless her,

0:28:18 > 0:28:20she used to make something that looked a lot like this,

0:28:20 > 0:28:22and she just called it stock.

0:28:22 > 0:28:25But it's flying out of cafes right across the country

0:28:25 > 0:28:29because it's apparently extremely beneficial for many things,

0:28:29 > 0:28:31including anti-ageing.

0:28:31 > 0:28:33That's why I'm on it, but of course, you don't need it.

0:28:38 > 0:28:41New York Fashion Week, home to global trendsetters,

0:28:41 > 0:28:43dedicated followers of fashion,

0:28:43 > 0:28:47and one of the latest food fad phenomenon to hit America.

0:28:47 > 0:28:51Bone broth. It's the diet sweeping the country.

0:28:51 > 0:28:53Throw in a few celebrity endorsements and soon enough,

0:28:53 > 0:28:57health-conscious hipsters were glugging gallons of the stuff.

0:28:57 > 0:28:59Sorry, did you say bone broth, is that it?

0:28:59 > 0:29:00Bone broth, yeah.

0:29:00 > 0:29:03This is bone broth and this is one of the hottest trends right now.

0:29:03 > 0:29:07And with claims that it can help you lose weight, prevent illness,

0:29:07 > 0:29:09and even roll back the ageing process,

0:29:09 > 0:29:13it's no surprise that it's now made it onto the UK high street.

0:29:13 > 0:29:16I think it's a good, nourishing dish, but it's one of those things

0:29:16 > 0:29:18people have been cooking for hundreds of years.

0:29:18 > 0:29:20Sort of thing your great granny would have cooked.

0:29:20 > 0:29:23I would say it's good. I would love to try it now.

0:29:24 > 0:29:28Bone broth is made using the bones and connective tissue of chicken

0:29:28 > 0:29:31or beef, fresh vegetables, water and seasoning.

0:29:31 > 0:29:32Hardly ground-breaking stuff,

0:29:32 > 0:29:35so what sets this apart from your mother's soup stock?

0:29:35 > 0:29:39According to the experts, the key to unlocking the health benefits

0:29:39 > 0:29:42lie in the cooking of it for up to 36 hours.

0:29:42 > 0:29:44And what do you get for your patience?

0:29:44 > 0:29:48Well, a broth brimming with protein, vitamins and minerals.

0:29:48 > 0:29:51And as dietitian Linia Patel explains,

0:29:51 > 0:29:53it claims to pack quite a punch.

0:29:53 > 0:29:56Bone broth has some big and bold claims.

0:29:56 > 0:30:01So, for example, it claims to alleviate arthritis, heal your gut,

0:30:01 > 0:30:04and also has some anti-ageing claims as well.

0:30:04 > 0:30:05In terms of gut health,

0:30:05 > 0:30:08glutamine and amino acid from the bone broth

0:30:08 > 0:30:10are thought to heal your gut

0:30:10 > 0:30:12and close the leaks that are in your gut.

0:30:12 > 0:30:15And as we get older, we have less collagen,

0:30:15 > 0:30:18we can't make as much, and this is why we get wrinkles.

0:30:18 > 0:30:21And it's thought that in the bone broth,

0:30:21 > 0:30:25the collagen that you drink then helps you make new skin.

0:30:27 > 0:30:30But can these shoppers be convinced that bone broth

0:30:30 > 0:30:33is anything more than expensive stock?

0:30:33 > 0:30:34It's all rubbish.

0:30:34 > 0:30:37It is a very useful stock,

0:30:37 > 0:30:41but I really don't see how it can have these properties.

0:30:41 > 0:30:47I think it's a good nutritious food, but it's not going to cure all.

0:30:47 > 0:30:50Well, it turns out they're probably right to be sceptical.

0:30:50 > 0:30:53Linia doubts that bone broth can live up to the promises.

0:30:55 > 0:30:58Despite the bold claims that come with bone broth,

0:30:58 > 0:31:01sadly there just isn't enough scientific evidence

0:31:01 > 0:31:02to back up this fad.

0:31:02 > 0:31:05There's lots of other ways that you can actually get a healthy gut,

0:31:05 > 0:31:08including bio live yoghurt in your diet every day

0:31:08 > 0:31:11is a much better way to get a healthy gut.

0:31:11 > 0:31:12In terms of arthritis,

0:31:12 > 0:31:15make sure you get your omega-3 by having at least

0:31:15 > 0:31:18one portion of oily fish a week.

0:31:18 > 0:31:22So, if you want to use a tasty broth as a base for a soup

0:31:22 > 0:31:24or a stew, by all means, do,

0:31:24 > 0:31:28but it's important that you're not using that to replace whole meals,

0:31:28 > 0:31:30because it's not going to be a miracle cure.

0:31:38 > 0:31:41Now, when it comes to helpful headlines

0:31:41 > 0:31:44about which foods can transform your health for good or ill,

0:31:44 > 0:31:47then anyone who suffers with arthritis is likely to have seen

0:31:47 > 0:31:49more than their fair share.

0:31:49 > 0:31:53The only problem is that not many of them actually agree with each other.

0:31:53 > 0:31:56So I set off to find out if changing what you eat

0:31:56 > 0:31:59really can make it easier to live with arthritis.

0:32:03 > 0:32:05These look pretty strong crutches to me.

0:32:05 > 0:32:06- Yes.- So, when do you use those?

0:32:06 > 0:32:08- Use these every day.- Every day?

0:32:08 > 0:32:10Every day, in the house and outside the house.

0:32:10 > 0:32:13Catherine Manning is 37 years old,

0:32:13 > 0:32:16but she has a condition most people would associate

0:32:16 > 0:32:19with someone much older, rheumatoid arthritis.

0:32:19 > 0:32:23She started to develop it at the age of 12, and since adulthood,

0:32:23 > 0:32:26it's influenced every part of her life.

0:32:26 > 0:32:29But over the years, she's found ways to maintain her independence

0:32:29 > 0:32:31and plenty of gadgets to help her day-to-day.

0:32:34 > 0:32:35Is this special cutlery?

0:32:35 > 0:32:37These are good for me, because they've got a shaped handle.

0:32:37 > 0:32:39Show me in your hand how that helps.

0:32:39 > 0:32:41- It gives you a better grip? - Gives me a bit of grip.

0:32:41 > 0:32:43This is a higher bench than normal.

0:32:43 > 0:32:46Yes, the kitchen was all made higher,

0:32:46 > 0:32:48so that I don't need to lean over.

0:32:48 > 0:32:50And do you try to do a bit of cooking or have you given that up?

0:32:50 > 0:32:53I've kind of given it up. I dropped a pan out of the oven,

0:32:53 > 0:32:55with the children in the kitchen,

0:32:55 > 0:32:59and my occupational therapist said that it was probably best

0:32:59 > 0:33:01- that I don't do anything...- Hot.

0:33:01 > 0:33:02Hot.

0:33:03 > 0:33:05But if reports are right,

0:33:05 > 0:33:08Catherine's kitchen could be the key to combating her arthritis,

0:33:08 > 0:33:11and the secret is in what she eats.

0:33:11 > 0:33:14The only problem is that reports don't agree on what could help

0:33:14 > 0:33:16and what could hinder the condition.

0:33:17 > 0:33:20Take, for example, the breakfast staple, orange juice.

0:33:20 > 0:33:23According to this report, it could help fight her arthritis.

0:33:25 > 0:33:27But these listed amongst the sugary drinks

0:33:27 > 0:33:30that could make arthritis worse.

0:33:30 > 0:33:33Meanwhile, anyone reading this article

0:33:33 > 0:33:36will see tomatoes and peppers are among six foods

0:33:36 > 0:33:39that people with arthritis should avoid.

0:33:39 > 0:33:41But five months later,

0:33:41 > 0:33:44exactly the same newspaper listed them both amongst ten foods

0:33:44 > 0:33:46that could help the condition.

0:33:46 > 0:33:50And that's just the tip of an iceberg of confusing messages,

0:33:50 > 0:33:52which leave patients like Catherine baffled.

0:33:52 > 0:33:56I often get e-mails or phone calls from friends that will then tell me,

0:33:56 > 0:34:00"Oh, can you drink this concoction?" Or, "Can you drink aloe vera?

0:34:00 > 0:34:01"Because you're going to be cured."

0:34:01 > 0:34:04Or, "White wine vinegar is going to cure your arthritis."

0:34:04 > 0:34:07And do you ever try them?

0:34:07 > 0:34:09Do you know what? I did try the aloe vera.

0:34:09 > 0:34:12- And?- No, I'm still creaky.

0:34:12 > 0:34:15If it really flares up, how does that affect you?

0:34:15 > 0:34:16I don't get out of bed.

0:34:16 > 0:34:19I've had flare-ups which have just reduced me to tears.

0:34:19 > 0:34:23I've had flare-ups that have meant that I've been admitted

0:34:23 > 0:34:25to hospital for weeks at a time.

0:34:27 > 0:34:30All the more reason why Catherine is desperate to find out

0:34:30 > 0:34:33if there's any truth in the headlines about which foods

0:34:33 > 0:34:35could reduce her chances of a flare-up.

0:34:39 > 0:34:43And it's something that a fair few members of this over-60s dance class

0:34:43 > 0:34:44in East London...

0:34:46 > 0:34:48..are very keen to find out as well.

0:34:50 > 0:34:52Do any of you have arthritis or touches of it?

0:34:54 > 0:34:55Oh!

0:34:55 > 0:34:56Quite a lot.

0:34:56 > 0:34:59So, who better to ask which foods can affect it?

0:34:59 > 0:35:00You up for that?

0:35:00 > 0:35:03- Yes!- Let's go, then!

0:35:05 > 0:35:09Martin Lau is a dietitian who specialises in arthritis.

0:35:09 > 0:35:11What do you think of this?

0:35:11 > 0:35:14He wants to know which foods our group think

0:35:14 > 0:35:16will help with their condition...

0:35:16 > 0:35:19- This is good. - Is that good?- Yeah.

0:35:19 > 0:35:22..and which foods could be bad for arthritis...

0:35:22 > 0:35:24- This is bad.- Yeah?

0:35:24 > 0:35:26..by splitting them into two groups.

0:35:27 > 0:35:29Milk. So good or bad?

0:35:29 > 0:35:30What do you think?

0:35:30 > 0:35:33- They're all good, actually.- That's a bad one.

0:35:33 > 0:35:35So, how have our dancers done?

0:35:35 > 0:35:38First up, something they thought should go on the bad table,

0:35:38 > 0:35:40but Martin has other ideas.

0:35:42 > 0:35:45Milk shouldn't belong to the naughty table.

0:35:45 > 0:35:48Those people, especially women,

0:35:48 > 0:35:52who are drinking more than seven glasses of milk per week,

0:35:52 > 0:35:55they have found that the progression of arthritis

0:35:55 > 0:35:59is actually less than the ones who don't drink any milk,

0:35:59 > 0:36:03so milk should belong to the good table.

0:36:03 > 0:36:06The study behind that nugget didn't differentiate

0:36:06 > 0:36:09between skimmed, semi-skimmed or full-fat milk,

0:36:09 > 0:36:12but dairy products that are much higher in saturated fat like cheese

0:36:12 > 0:36:15don't share milk's place on the good table.

0:36:16 > 0:36:21Cheese is worsening the progression of osteoarthritis,

0:36:21 > 0:36:27because we know a lot of saturated fat can damage our cartilage.

0:36:28 > 0:36:31Next, the dancers choose something else

0:36:31 > 0:36:33that reports have said arthritis sufferers should stay clear of -

0:36:33 > 0:36:35coffee.

0:36:35 > 0:36:38But Martin says following that advice might mean you miss out

0:36:38 > 0:36:40on something that could actually help.

0:36:42 > 0:36:46Coffee is actually protective for people with rheumatoid arthritis,

0:36:46 > 0:36:48funnily enough. Yes!

0:36:48 > 0:36:50Because if you look at coffee,

0:36:50 > 0:36:53it has got quite a lot of active phytochemicals in.

0:36:53 > 0:36:57So, I would say that coffee, really, as long as you don't overdo them,

0:36:57 > 0:36:59it should be absolutely fine.

0:37:00 > 0:37:05And finally, two foods containing acid that has long been thought

0:37:05 > 0:37:06to make arthritis worse.

0:37:06 > 0:37:11Quite a few of my patients do find that eating too much tomatoes

0:37:11 > 0:37:15or citrus do aggravate some of the symptoms.

0:37:15 > 0:37:16Is that because of the acid?

0:37:16 > 0:37:19No, because we know for a fact

0:37:19 > 0:37:23that the acid-based hypothesis has been refuted.

0:37:23 > 0:37:25It might not be the acid they contain,

0:37:25 > 0:37:29but Martin says there are compounds found in both tomatoes and citrus

0:37:29 > 0:37:31that can cause painful inflammation

0:37:31 > 0:37:34in some, but not all, arthritis sufferers.

0:37:34 > 0:37:36So there's no need to avoid them

0:37:36 > 0:37:39unless you know that they're bad for your arthritis.

0:37:39 > 0:37:41And, in fact, that's the message for everything here.

0:37:41 > 0:37:45There's simply no hard evidence that individual foods

0:37:45 > 0:37:49are always good or indeed bad for arthritis.

0:37:49 > 0:37:53I think the most important take-home point is we need to follow

0:37:53 > 0:37:55a healthy eating regime.

0:37:55 > 0:37:58What we also need to look at is be active as well,

0:37:58 > 0:38:01because what we talk about, anti-inflammatory,

0:38:01 > 0:38:03exercise is the best way.

0:38:04 > 0:38:07So these dancers are doing the right thing already.

0:38:11 > 0:38:15There is one food the headlines seem to agree on, though - oily fish.

0:38:15 > 0:38:18It's been claimed it can actually reduce swelling in joints.

0:38:20 > 0:38:22I'm taking Martin to meet Catherine

0:38:22 > 0:38:24at a restaurant that serves plenty of that.

0:38:24 > 0:38:25Hello, there.

0:38:25 > 0:38:28Will he confirm the headlines are right?

0:38:28 > 0:38:30Do you eat a lot of fish?

0:38:30 > 0:38:33Yes. I love salmon. I like tuna.

0:38:33 > 0:38:35I also like cod, haddock...

0:38:35 > 0:38:37Is it fresh tuna that you have?

0:38:37 > 0:38:38- Yes.- Excellent.

0:38:39 > 0:38:43Of that list, only the salmon and fresh tuna count as oily fish,

0:38:43 > 0:38:47because they contain high levels of omega-3 fatty acids,

0:38:47 > 0:38:50which Martin says really do help to ease arthritic pain.

0:38:51 > 0:38:57If you can manage roughly around two servings per week,

0:38:57 > 0:39:00that seems to be a good way to start.

0:39:00 > 0:39:01Which sort of fish would you then recommend?

0:39:01 > 0:39:04Your sardines, tinned sardines,

0:39:04 > 0:39:07and they're relatively inexpensive.

0:39:07 > 0:39:10Your mackerel, your fresh tuna.

0:39:10 > 0:39:14So all of the fish that you like to have absolutely fit this case.

0:39:14 > 0:39:17However, canned tuna is not on the list

0:39:17 > 0:39:20because it doesn't contain enough omega-3

0:39:20 > 0:39:22to be classed as an oily fish.

0:39:23 > 0:39:26And that's not the only advice Martin has for Catherine,

0:39:26 > 0:39:29because some of the other reports are on the money as well.

0:39:29 > 0:39:31What all these stories have in common

0:39:31 > 0:39:33is that the things they say could help arthritis

0:39:33 > 0:39:37are all components of one particular diet that's been dubbed

0:39:37 > 0:39:40the world's healthiest, the Mediterranean diet.

0:39:40 > 0:39:45You've got lots of green vegetables, olive oil,

0:39:45 > 0:39:50lots of fish and restricted red meat, and whole-grain cereal.

0:39:50 > 0:39:53So, those are the things that could be really useful for you to try.

0:39:53 > 0:39:59Would you overall say that general health and a good diet is overall

0:39:59 > 0:40:01the thing that you should aim for?

0:40:01 > 0:40:06Definitely, a healthy eating regime is utmost important.

0:40:06 > 0:40:09And if that's not the silver bullet against arthritis

0:40:09 > 0:40:11you were hoping for,

0:40:11 > 0:40:14there is new research that may soon see that change.

0:40:14 > 0:40:17It's investigating how the bacteria in our guts,

0:40:17 > 0:40:19which live on the food we eat every day,

0:40:19 > 0:40:22could have a big influence on the condition.

0:40:22 > 0:40:25Dr Benjamin Ellis is a rheumatology consultant

0:40:25 > 0:40:27involved in the research.

0:40:28 > 0:40:30In rheumatoid arthritis,

0:40:30 > 0:40:32something called the microbiome might be important.

0:40:32 > 0:40:35Now, the microbiome are the collection of bacteria

0:40:35 > 0:40:36that live in our gut.

0:40:36 > 0:40:38We each have a unique collection, and obviously,

0:40:38 > 0:40:40they're being fed by what we eat.

0:40:40 > 0:40:44Now, these bacteria interact with our immune systems,

0:40:44 > 0:40:47and this may be why some people with rheumatoid arthritis

0:40:47 > 0:40:51are saying if they adopt a particular type of diet,

0:40:51 > 0:40:53it seems to be having an effect

0:40:53 > 0:40:56on their joint pain and stiffness and swelling.

0:40:56 > 0:40:59By studying the gut bacteria from lots of patients,

0:40:59 > 0:41:03the programme could help find a diet that reduces the chances

0:41:03 > 0:41:05of those painful flare-ups.

0:41:05 > 0:41:07We know that changing the pattern of food that you eat

0:41:07 > 0:41:08changes the microbiome.

0:41:08 > 0:41:12The next challenge will be to understand what the microbiome

0:41:12 > 0:41:15is doing and then we need to understand how we can manipulate it.

0:41:15 > 0:41:17Is it through giving people supplements?

0:41:17 > 0:41:19Is it through giving people bacteria?

0:41:19 > 0:41:21So, how do we change the microbiome

0:41:21 > 0:41:24to help people with rheumatoid arthritis?

0:41:24 > 0:41:27The study is in the early stages, but while it's encouraging,

0:41:27 > 0:41:30conclusive evidence is a long way off.

0:41:30 > 0:41:33In the meantime, while countless column inches

0:41:33 > 0:41:35might tell you otherwise, Dr Ellis is adamant

0:41:35 > 0:41:39there's no single food that can trigger or indeed halt

0:41:39 > 0:41:42rheumatoid arthritis flare-ups.

0:41:42 > 0:41:45It's not surprising that when claims are made for a particular food

0:41:45 > 0:41:46or a particular supplement

0:41:46 > 0:41:48that people with arthritis want to try them.

0:41:48 > 0:41:51Sadly, the evidence is that most of these things

0:41:51 > 0:41:52don't seem to make any difference.

0:41:52 > 0:41:56But all the experts do agree that oily fish can at least help

0:41:56 > 0:41:59ease the symptoms. So, back with Catherine.

0:41:59 > 0:42:01She's committed to eating more of it in the hope

0:42:01 > 0:42:04that it might at least help reduce the pain

0:42:04 > 0:42:06that she's suffered for the last 25 years.

0:42:08 > 0:42:10I want to try anything that obviously is going to help me,

0:42:10 > 0:42:13and if I'm eating something that's detrimental to my health,

0:42:13 > 0:42:16then obviously I will try and eliminate that and see if

0:42:16 > 0:42:18that's going to have a benefit to my arthritis

0:42:18 > 0:42:20and my stiffness and my overall pain.

0:42:26 > 0:42:30There's no doubt that what we eat can have a big impact

0:42:30 > 0:42:33on individual conditions, as well as our overall health.

0:42:33 > 0:42:35But there are so many conflicting claims

0:42:35 > 0:42:38that it seems hard to know what to do for the best.

0:42:38 > 0:42:41And when those reports recommend changing your whole diet,

0:42:41 > 0:42:43the last thing you need is another article

0:42:43 > 0:42:45suggesting the complete opposite.

0:42:45 > 0:42:48Yes, that's where the real confusion sets in.

0:42:48 > 0:42:51Now, the best advice really is not to make any big changes

0:42:51 > 0:42:53without speaking to your doctor first.

0:42:53 > 0:42:55Because making the right choice,

0:42:55 > 0:42:57as some of the people in today's programme have found out,

0:42:57 > 0:43:00can make all the difference in the world.

0:43:00 > 0:43:01And on that positive note,

0:43:01 > 0:43:03I'm afraid that's where we have to leave it for today.

0:43:03 > 0:43:07But for the moment, it is a big goodbye and thank you from us.

0:43:07 > 0:43:09- Bye-bye.- Goodbye.