Episode 9

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0:00:03 > 0:00:05Whether you're a spender or a saver,

0:00:05 > 0:00:07we could all do with making the most of our cash.

0:00:07 > 0:00:12So we found simple advice for you to do just that,

0:00:12 > 0:00:15and taken it to people right across the UK.

0:00:15 > 0:00:19Whatever help you need with your finances, we are Right On The Money.

0:00:22 > 0:00:25Morning and welcome to Right On The Money.

0:00:25 > 0:00:28The show that sets out to boost your piggy bank by making a few simple changes.

0:00:28 > 0:00:32And today's show is packed with lots of easy-to-understand tips

0:00:32 > 0:00:34that could transform your finances.

0:00:34 > 0:00:36Here's what's coming up.

0:00:37 > 0:00:40We try and help a family desperate to extend their home.

0:00:40 > 0:00:41But there's a problem -

0:00:41 > 0:00:44the mountain of money they're spending on takeaways.

0:00:44 > 0:00:47You probably only family I know that actually have a burger mortgage.

0:00:47 > 0:00:51That's crazy. I didn't realise it was that much.

0:00:51 > 0:00:55And the new craze that's fuelling a nation of night-time spending.

0:00:55 > 0:00:57Welcome to the world of the vampire shopper.

0:00:57 > 0:01:01When I start shopping at night, I am quite vulnerable

0:01:01 > 0:01:03to just start clicking and just think

0:01:03 > 0:01:05"Oh, I'll buy that. That'll do."

0:01:05 > 0:01:07Seven, eight black skirts.

0:01:07 > 0:01:08I'm quite ashamed now.

0:01:11 > 0:01:15Now lots of people we meet want to save enough money to pay for something,

0:01:15 > 0:01:17like a wedding or a special family holiday.

0:01:17 > 0:01:18But today we meet a couple

0:01:18 > 0:01:22whose priority is to make someone else's life easier.

0:01:24 > 0:01:26Paul and Kim Welsh live in Leicestershire

0:01:26 > 0:01:27with their four children.

0:01:29 > 0:01:33I would describe Paul as the funny man.

0:01:33 > 0:01:34Always got a cheesy smile.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36And the kids have all got his smile.

0:01:36 > 0:01:38Well, what can I say about Kim?

0:01:38 > 0:01:42She's beautiful. She's nice, she's kind-hearted.

0:01:42 > 0:01:44I don't think... She moans a lot.

0:01:45 > 0:01:46But, I love her.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48Oh, I love you too.

0:01:48 > 0:01:52But both Paul and Kim also have extremely busy lives.

0:01:52 > 0:01:56He delivers takeaways and she manages the local convenience store.

0:01:56 > 0:01:57We do work hard.

0:01:57 > 0:02:00We both work full-time, we both do six days a week.

0:02:00 > 0:02:03Don't get to spend as much time as I want with the kids

0:02:03 > 0:02:06but we have bills to pay and mortgages to pay.

0:02:06 > 0:02:08Let's see who can get the highest?

0:02:08 > 0:02:10And, as if that wasn't enough,

0:02:10 > 0:02:14their hectic household could soon be getting even busier.

0:02:14 > 0:02:18Kim's younger brother, who has a rare macular degeneration syndrome,

0:02:18 > 0:02:19might have to move in.

0:02:19 > 0:02:23Alex is my 21-year-old brother, who's going blind.

0:02:23 > 0:02:25At any point now, he could lost his sight.

0:02:25 > 0:02:29Currently lives with my mum and Alex will need looking after.

0:02:29 > 0:02:34Kim and Paul's dream is to extend their house so Alex can move in too.

0:02:34 > 0:02:38What's very important for me is if and when I do lose my sight,

0:02:38 > 0:02:41then I know I've got somewhere to live.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44And if I need anyone, I know someone's there.

0:02:44 > 0:02:46So if we managed to save some money,

0:02:46 > 0:02:48the first thing is the extension, isn't it?

0:02:48 > 0:02:50Yeah, definitely. We want to sort the extension out

0:02:50 > 0:02:52and then we want to make the best of our house.

0:02:55 > 0:02:56So, that sounds like a plan.

0:02:56 > 0:02:58A nice bit of home improvement

0:02:58 > 0:03:01to make the house bigger and better for all.

0:03:01 > 0:03:02But there's a problem.

0:03:02 > 0:03:06Money. Well, to be more accurate, how Kim and Paul spend it.

0:03:06 > 0:03:10You're quite a big spender, so if I go out it's small amounts.

0:03:10 > 0:03:13You could spend ?100 in one shot.

0:03:13 > 0:03:16Whereas mine is little bits of money.

0:03:16 > 0:03:18I look at my bank account once a month

0:03:18 > 0:03:21and I'll tend to look back on what I spent for the month

0:03:21 > 0:03:24and then I'll be a bit like, why did we do that?

0:03:24 > 0:03:28Paul and Kim also like to nip off for the occasional mini-break which

0:03:28 > 0:03:31means there's not a lot left in the bank at the end of the month.

0:03:31 > 0:03:35We go about once a month if we can.

0:03:35 > 0:03:37Just trying to spend some quality time with each other.

0:03:37 > 0:03:41Because we both work hard and we think we deserve it.

0:03:41 > 0:03:45When you work six days a week, you ain't got no time for each other.

0:03:45 > 0:03:47So it is important for us to spend that time.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50We've made it our mission to help Paul and Kim to save for their

0:03:50 > 0:03:53extension, and still enjoy their life together.

0:03:53 > 0:03:56Can they make their money go further?

0:03:56 > 0:03:59So finance expert Sarah Pennells has come to pay them a visit.

0:04:01 > 0:04:03Hello. Hi, I'm Sarah. I'm Paul. Nice to meet you.

0:04:03 > 0:04:06Would you like to come in? Thank you very much.

0:04:06 > 0:04:08Now, Paul and Kim, as you may have heard,

0:04:08 > 0:04:10I'm just absolutely fascinated by your finances

0:04:10 > 0:04:12so I want you to tell me more.

0:04:12 > 0:04:17I do know that I spend a lot on convenience shops, um, takeaways, eating out.

0:04:17 > 0:04:21If we was to add it up, it'd probably more than I thought.

0:04:21 > 0:04:23It's a lot more than what you thought.

0:04:23 > 0:04:26I tend to just hand the card over and spend.

0:04:26 > 0:04:28Probably look the bills afterwards.

0:04:28 > 0:04:30So what are you having?

0:04:30 > 0:04:32I might have...

0:04:32 > 0:04:33With a full-on family life

0:04:33 > 0:04:37the Welshes sometimes fall back on the local takeaway.

0:04:37 > 0:04:38How can help you? Yes, please.

0:04:38 > 0:04:40Can I have an Istanbul special please?

0:04:40 > 0:04:42Of course, anything else you want? No, thank you.

0:04:42 > 0:04:46And delivery driver Paul has a very expensive hobby.

0:04:46 > 0:04:49Cars. They're his livelihood, but he owns four of them.

0:04:51 > 0:04:53Whereas I'm impulsive with my bank card in the shop,

0:04:53 > 0:04:55Paul's impulsive with cars.

0:04:55 > 0:04:58He gets an idea in his head that he needs a new car

0:04:58 > 0:05:00and I say get rid of what we've got.

0:05:00 > 0:05:02That doesn't happen.

0:05:02 > 0:05:05He comes back with the new car and that's why we've ended up with four.

0:05:06 > 0:05:10There's loads for Sarah to crack on with and with that house extension her goal,

0:05:10 > 0:05:12she's keen to begin.

0:05:13 > 0:05:15Let's see if we can come up with a way

0:05:15 > 0:05:17for you to still be able to do the things that you want to do

0:05:17 > 0:05:19but build up a pot of money

0:05:19 > 0:05:23so that you can build that annexe for your brother,

0:05:23 > 0:05:26that's obviously just really important to both of you.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28That would be great, wouldn't it? Yet, it would be good.

0:05:28 > 0:05:30That would satisfy everyone.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32No mystery about where we are here.

0:05:32 > 0:05:34No, this is one of our locals.

0:05:34 > 0:05:38Time for the money-saving menu and for starters she's got a quick hit.

0:05:38 > 0:05:42The huge amount of money this family spends on grub.

0:05:42 > 0:05:48Do you know how much you spend a week on going out and on takeaways?

0:05:48 > 0:05:51I'd say, probably,

0:05:51 > 0:05:53?60 to ?70, with drinks.

0:05:53 > 0:05:55Not even close, Paul.

0:05:55 > 0:05:57I think you'll be in for shock, guys.

0:05:57 > 0:06:01We've worked out that you spend

0:06:01 > 0:06:05a grand total of ?433 a month.

0:06:05 > 0:06:07Oh, my gosh. That's what this represents.

0:06:07 > 0:06:11That's almost ?110 every week.

0:06:11 > 0:06:13Nearly double Paul's guess.

0:06:13 > 0:06:17I'm a lazy cook. So if Paul's busy working at the weekend

0:06:17 > 0:06:20and I'm busy with the children, last-minute we'll be,

0:06:20 > 0:06:23"Let's grab something to eat, go home, and relax."

0:06:23 > 0:06:26Do you know what this adds up to?

0:06:26 > 0:06:29That's about ?5,200 a year.

0:06:29 > 0:06:34That is actually the same as you spend on your mortgage.

0:06:35 > 0:06:36Oh, my God.

0:06:36 > 0:06:40You are probably the only family I know who have a burger mortgage.

0:06:40 > 0:06:43That's crazy. I didn't realise it was that amount.

0:06:43 > 0:06:45That's a lot of money.

0:06:45 > 0:06:46But, hold your horses,

0:06:46 > 0:06:49that five grand only covers dining out and takeaways.

0:06:49 > 0:06:51What about down at the supermarket?

0:06:51 > 0:06:54Sarah's been totting that up as well.

0:06:54 > 0:06:55And that is the grand total...

0:06:56 > 0:07:02..of ?4,164 over a year.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04We actually spend less in the supermarket

0:07:04 > 0:07:07than we do on meals for one day of the week?

0:07:07 > 0:07:09Two days a week, one day.

0:07:09 > 0:07:13Wow. Between your takeaways, meals on the go,

0:07:13 > 0:07:16meals out and your supermarket shopping

0:07:16 > 0:07:20they add up to nearly ten grand over a year. On food?

0:07:20 > 0:07:23On food. That's just crazy, isn't it?

0:07:23 > 0:07:25That's a lot of money.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27Crazy indeed.

0:07:27 > 0:07:30Kim and Paul are clearly shocked by their annual takeaway tab,

0:07:30 > 0:07:34but don't worry, Sarah's not just about pointing out the problems,

0:07:34 > 0:07:36she's also got the solutions.

0:07:36 > 0:07:39So I think the key is to actually work out a budget

0:07:39 > 0:07:42of how much you want to spend when you're going out for meals,

0:07:42 > 0:07:45on takeaways, or things like that, and then stick to that budget.

0:07:45 > 0:07:49If necessary, take cash out at the beginning of the week and when the

0:07:49 > 0:07:51money's gone, you stop spending it.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54Yeah, that sounds a good idea because when I use my card,

0:07:54 > 0:07:56it doesn't feel like I'm spending.

0:07:56 > 0:07:59I think it's a lot more painful to hand over a crisp note

0:07:59 > 0:08:01than it is to wave a card around.

0:08:01 > 0:08:03It is, definitely.

0:08:03 > 0:08:05And Sarah's got one more money-saving morsel up her sleeve.

0:08:05 > 0:08:07When you're eating out,

0:08:07 > 0:08:11there are some mystery shopping sites that you can sign up for,

0:08:11 > 0:08:14that would pay you for doing a review if you eat out.

0:08:14 > 0:08:17Oh, that would be good one, wouldn't it?

0:08:18 > 0:08:21You're quite critical. Always.

0:08:21 > 0:08:25Websites are constantly advertising for volunteers

0:08:25 > 0:08:29to complete detailed reports on a restaurant, hotel, or pub.

0:08:29 > 0:08:34So now you do still get to eat out but you get paid for doing it,

0:08:34 > 0:08:36which sounds like a win-win to me.

0:08:36 > 0:08:38OK. You'll like that, won't you?

0:08:38 > 0:08:41You'll soon develop a taste for saving money, I'll tell you.

0:08:41 > 0:08:43I see what you've done there, Penells.

0:08:43 > 0:08:46If Kim and Paul halve their takeaway spending

0:08:46 > 0:08:51and shop savvy at the supermarket, they can save a pot of cash.

0:08:51 > 0:08:55With the couple beginning to realise how a few changes can reap rewards,

0:08:55 > 0:08:58it's time to tackle Paul's expensive hobby. Cars.

0:08:58 > 0:09:00You've got a lot of cars, haven't you?

0:09:00 > 0:09:03Four in all. Just a few, yeah.

0:09:03 > 0:09:07Paul had planned to strip this old motor for parts for his newer car,

0:09:07 > 0:09:10but, two years on, it's still sitting in the drive

0:09:10 > 0:09:13losing value with every day that goes by.

0:09:13 > 0:09:15Sarah thinks it's time to cut their losses.

0:09:15 > 0:09:20If you sell the car for scrap, you can probably get around 80 quid for.

0:09:20 > 0:09:22That's a good start. Not a fortune,

0:09:22 > 0:09:24but it's 80 quid that's in your pocket.

0:09:24 > 0:09:28Rather than... That can start our saving pot, can't it?

0:09:28 > 0:09:29Wise words, Kim.

0:09:29 > 0:09:31And even with this one motor gone,

0:09:31 > 0:09:34tinkerer Paul won't be short of work to do.

0:09:34 > 0:09:35He's got another project on the go.

0:09:36 > 0:09:39Bye, car. One down.

0:09:39 > 0:09:41Hello, ?80.

0:09:43 > 0:09:45With the first deposit in their savings pot,

0:09:45 > 0:09:48it's time for Sarah to save some more money.

0:09:48 > 0:09:51She's noticed they spend a hefty amount on clothes.

0:09:52 > 0:09:54If I was to go rifling through your children's wardrobes,

0:09:54 > 0:09:57would I find a few things with the labels on,

0:09:57 > 0:09:59or a few things that they don't need, maybe already got?

0:09:59 > 0:10:01Definitely. All our wardrobes.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03All of our wardrobes are full of stuff that we don't need.

0:10:03 > 0:10:08A-ha! Sounds a textbook case of impulse buying to me.

0:10:08 > 0:10:09I'm the bargain hunter,

0:10:09 > 0:10:11I look at the label and think,

0:10:11 > 0:10:15"Oh, that's supposed to be ?50-60 and it's on sale at ?20."

0:10:15 > 0:10:19I think, "That will do for a holiday, or for summer."

0:10:19 > 0:10:21Then buy it. Then Kim'll say,

0:10:21 > 0:10:23she ain't even wore it and now's she's grown out of it.

0:10:23 > 0:10:25What a waste.

0:10:25 > 0:10:27But Paul and Kim are not the only ones.

0:10:27 > 0:10:31Brits have a secret stash of unworn clothes

0:10:31 > 0:10:34worth over 10 billion pounds tucked away in their wardrobes.

0:10:34 > 0:10:38If you put the 600 million unworn garments next to each other,

0:10:38 > 0:10:41they would stretch 18,000 miles.

0:10:41 > 0:10:45That's equivalent of London to New York five times over.

0:10:45 > 0:10:49Those clothes may have looked like a bargain to you, Paul,

0:10:49 > 0:10:50but Sarah's not so sure.

0:10:50 > 0:10:54It's only a bargain if you actually use it and if you can afford it.

0:10:54 > 0:10:56And if this sort of everyday money that you're spending

0:10:56 > 0:10:59is stopping you from doing other things,

0:10:59 > 0:11:02maybe it's not the brilliant bargain you think it is.

0:11:02 > 0:11:04It's not, and we know that.

0:11:05 > 0:11:06But we still do it.

0:11:06 > 0:11:09So just how much cash are Paul and Kim spending

0:11:09 > 0:11:11on all this clobber?

0:11:11 > 0:11:15Well, in one month, you actually spent around ?390.

0:11:15 > 0:11:20And the average that you spend is about 347.

0:11:20 > 0:11:22And that's about ?4,000 a year.

0:11:22 > 0:11:24That's quite a lot.

0:11:24 > 0:11:27That's a very lot.

0:11:27 > 0:11:29You think you're getting bargains.

0:11:29 > 0:11:32Forget the price tag, it's what's the use to you?

0:11:32 > 0:11:34If it's ?20 of worth to you

0:11:34 > 0:11:38and you know you're going to use it, that's maybe one thing.

0:11:38 > 0:11:39But if it's ?20 you can't afford

0:11:39 > 0:11:43and it will sit at the back of the wardrobe gathering dust,

0:11:43 > 0:11:46that's not really a bargain. Yeah. True.

0:11:46 > 0:11:50If Paul started sharing the clothes-buying duties with Kim,

0:11:50 > 0:11:53she would have a chance of moderating his impulse buying.

0:11:53 > 0:11:56Sarah reckons they could save around ?2,500 a year.

0:11:58 > 0:12:01Does that sound like a plan? That sounds good to me.

0:12:01 > 0:12:02Yeah, good idea.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05Yes!

0:12:05 > 0:12:07Join us again when Kim and Paul realise

0:12:07 > 0:12:10how hard they going to have to work

0:12:10 > 0:12:12to pay for that dream extension for brother Alex.

0:12:12 > 0:12:14Better get saving, Mr Welsh.

0:12:14 > 0:12:16Better get working double time.

0:12:20 > 0:12:23And we'll be chatting to Kim and Paul a little later on.

0:12:23 > 0:12:27Joining us now is the Financial Times money editor Claer Barrett

0:12:27 > 0:12:30and professor of psychology Catriona Morrison.

0:12:30 > 0:12:34Claer, we'll start with you. Kim and Paul are also working very hard,

0:12:34 > 0:12:35to look after their family.

0:12:35 > 0:12:37They like to spend a lot of money on clothes

0:12:37 > 0:12:39and half of that stuff ends up in a bag

0:12:39 > 0:12:43in the bottom of the wardrobe with the labels on, not used.

0:12:43 > 0:12:45I'll be honest, I'm guilty of that myself.

0:12:45 > 0:12:46Why do people do that?

0:12:46 > 0:12:48Because we love shopping.

0:12:48 > 0:12:50It's the number one leisure activity in this country.

0:12:50 > 0:12:51Me, I love shopping.

0:12:51 > 0:12:53It's gives us a buzz to find something special.

0:12:53 > 0:12:55If you think there's a discount and money off,

0:12:55 > 0:12:57"Get in there! I've saved money."

0:12:57 > 0:12:58No, you've just spent money

0:12:58 > 0:13:01on something you've probably got at home in a drawer.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04So, Catriona, we've identified that that's what we do,

0:13:04 > 0:13:07it's comfort, it's habitual.

0:13:07 > 0:13:09How do we stop?

0:13:09 > 0:13:11Planning is the major thing, I think.

0:13:11 > 0:13:14Planning and considering what we're spending

0:13:14 > 0:13:15and what we actually need to spend.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18The moment that you buy something, if you impulse buy,

0:13:18 > 0:13:20it feels great when you buy it

0:13:20 > 0:13:23but you have to balance is that short-term

0:13:23 > 0:13:27rush of satisfaction versus the long-term,

0:13:27 > 0:13:29"Do I really want it? Do I need it?"

0:13:29 > 0:13:32Claer, we hear the term "money hacks".

0:13:32 > 0:13:33What does that actually mean?

0:13:33 > 0:13:36Well, it's an American term for, basically, a money-saving tip.

0:13:36 > 0:13:38Tip, hack, same difference.

0:13:38 > 0:13:40Do you want to hear my top ones? Tell me your best ones.

0:13:40 > 0:13:43Number one, set up a direct debit for your savings.

0:13:43 > 0:13:46It's really easy to do, payday, direct debit,

0:13:46 > 0:13:47money comes out you never notice it.

0:13:47 > 0:13:50And that money is then in your savings account, growing away.

0:13:50 > 0:13:53If you wait until the end of month thinking that will have enough money

0:13:53 > 0:13:55left for putting away, you'll never do it.

0:13:55 > 0:13:56Number two, do an audit of your house.

0:13:56 > 0:13:58See what you've got that you're not using,

0:13:58 > 0:14:00whether you could sell it online.

0:14:00 > 0:14:02You could really unlock some significant money.

0:14:02 > 0:14:05People will buy absolutely anything online.

0:14:05 > 0:14:07I had it tatty old book from the 1960s,

0:14:07 > 0:14:09which I thought was probably worthless.

0:14:09 > 0:14:12I'll look it up and see. It was worth ?8 and I managed to sell it.

0:14:12 > 0:14:14Something I was literally going to throw away

0:14:14 > 0:14:17because I thought it was too poor quality to give to a charity shop.

0:14:17 > 0:14:20So one woman's trash is another woman's treasure.

0:14:20 > 0:14:23Can I speak to you about selling online? You may.

0:14:23 > 0:14:25Because, in our last series,

0:14:25 > 0:14:28one of our experts suggested that you could sell the little

0:14:28 > 0:14:30cardboard rolls inside toilet rolls

0:14:30 > 0:14:33and, if you collect them up, there are people who want them.

0:14:33 > 0:14:34People want them for crafts.

0:14:34 > 0:14:37They might want them for hamsters or for their pet parrot to chew.

0:14:37 > 0:14:40That sort of thing. So I put it to the test.

0:14:40 > 0:14:43I saved up 100 toilet rolls.

0:14:43 > 0:14:45Did they sell? No.

0:14:46 > 0:14:50Don't laugh, don't mock me, because I've got two watchers,

0:14:50 > 0:14:51currently speaking, at the moment.

0:14:51 > 0:14:54I've got a funny feeling that this is going to snowball.

0:14:54 > 0:14:57This time next year, I could be a toilet roll millionaire.

0:14:57 > 0:14:59That sounds like a lot of effort to me.

0:14:59 > 0:15:01And, Claer, there must be easier ways to make a tenner.

0:15:01 > 0:15:04Yes. There are lots of things you can sell on eBay.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07You might think this product is broken.

0:15:07 > 0:15:09I'm going to have to put it in the bin.

0:15:09 > 0:15:11But think of its value in terms of spare parts.

0:15:11 > 0:15:16Make sure it's the brand that is listed and words like "vintage", "retro",

0:15:16 > 0:15:19they are magnets because they are the search terms that people look for.

0:15:19 > 0:15:22Think like a buyer, and then you'll be the best seller.

0:15:22 > 0:15:24Excellent advice, there, ladies.

0:15:24 > 0:15:26Thank you very much.

0:15:26 > 0:15:29It seems more and more of us are becoming creatures of the night.

0:15:29 > 0:15:31But rather than being a nightmare for retailers,

0:15:31 > 0:15:35this particular breed of shopper is something of a dream.

0:15:35 > 0:15:38And much more likely to bleed their own credit cards dry.

0:15:41 > 0:15:44It's finally come to that point in the evening

0:15:44 > 0:15:46when it's time to turn in.

0:15:46 > 0:15:48The milky drink is made,

0:15:48 > 0:15:50climb the wooden stairs to Bedfordshire

0:15:50 > 0:15:51and drift off to sleep.

0:15:54 > 0:15:55Well, that used to be the case.

0:15:58 > 0:16:01But, for many of us, it's time to shop.

0:16:01 > 0:16:02The last few years has seen a boom

0:16:02 > 0:16:04in what's known as the vampire economy.

0:16:07 > 0:16:11Karen from Manchester is one of a growing army of nocturnal shoppers.

0:16:11 > 0:16:13It's a time that she comes alive.

0:16:14 > 0:16:18I don't shop during the day, because I'm far too busy.

0:16:18 > 0:16:23I don't get time to relax, or even think about shopping,

0:16:23 > 0:16:25until at least 8:00, 8:30 in the evening.

0:16:27 > 0:16:29But Karen is so committed,

0:16:29 > 0:16:32she can hardly keep up with her night-time orders.

0:16:32 > 0:16:33I love opening packages.

0:16:33 > 0:16:37I think it's great. It's exciting to look and see what you've got.

0:16:37 > 0:16:38And remember, sometimes,

0:16:38 > 0:16:41because a lot of times I've forgotten what I ordered.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44I actually ordered this on Saturday night.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47I think it was about 11 o'clock at night.

0:16:48 > 0:16:50And, with this particular retailer,

0:16:50 > 0:16:52if you order before midnight it comes the next day.

0:16:52 > 0:16:54Which, again, is part of the thrill.

0:16:54 > 0:16:57Let's have look! Let's have a look!

0:16:57 > 0:17:00And that desire for instant gratification...

0:17:00 > 0:17:01That's my bikini top.

0:17:01 > 0:17:05..is exactly what's driving this after-dark shopping craze.

0:17:05 > 0:17:07And retailers are happy to oblige.

0:17:07 > 0:17:10Consumers want things, and they want them now.

0:17:10 > 0:17:12So, not only is it the impulse purchase

0:17:12 > 0:17:17but it is the desire to actually get the consumer material tomorrow.

0:17:17 > 0:17:20So we're seeing brands adapt to that.

0:17:21 > 0:17:24For Karen, her purchasing has gone through the roof.

0:17:24 > 0:17:27I do tend to go on a bit of a splurge.

0:17:27 > 0:17:31So I will look at a couple of retailers at a time.

0:17:31 > 0:17:36I'm swayed very easily by special offers, to be honest.

0:17:36 > 0:17:38My husband actually says that I'm a salesman's dream.

0:17:38 > 0:17:40I'm very gullible.

0:17:40 > 0:17:43Sometimes I do rein her in a little bit

0:17:43 > 0:17:47when I think she spends excessively and a lot of parcels arrive.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52Sometimes I think Karen can get carried away.

0:17:52 > 0:17:54I'm not comfortable with it.

0:17:56 > 0:17:59But Karen insists that her night-time shopping

0:17:59 > 0:18:02is just part of winding down and relaxing.

0:18:02 > 0:18:05It's my time to sit down with my laptop, or my iPad,...

0:18:07 > 0:18:11..have a flick through, see what's available, treat myself, in a way,

0:18:11 > 0:18:13because I deserve it.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17And, like many who feed the vampire economy,

0:18:17 > 0:18:20Karen is watching more than one screen at once.

0:18:21 > 0:18:25I would say that 90% of the time I am multitasking.

0:18:25 > 0:18:28I am shopping and watching the telly.

0:18:28 > 0:18:33When we shop as part of the vampire economy we very often multiscreen.

0:18:33 > 0:18:35You very often see the television on in the room

0:18:35 > 0:18:40and people will have their tablet, or laptop, and mobile phone.

0:18:40 > 0:18:42And, of course, whilst we believe

0:18:42 > 0:18:44that we've developed as human beings,

0:18:44 > 0:18:48we can't actually spread our attention equally

0:18:48 > 0:18:50over all those devices.

0:18:50 > 0:18:52And that would impact

0:18:52 > 0:18:55on the quality of our decision-making.

0:18:57 > 0:18:58And there's another thing.

0:18:58 > 0:19:00I think, when I start shopping at night,

0:19:00 > 0:19:06I am possibly weary and I am probably, yes,

0:19:06 > 0:19:09quite vulnerable to just start clicking and thinking,

0:19:09 > 0:19:12"I'll buy that, I'll buy that. That'll do."

0:19:12 > 0:19:14Rather than looking into it in more depth.

0:19:16 > 0:19:19When we shop in the evening, our guard is actually down

0:19:19 > 0:19:22and we may be asking different questions from our purchase.

0:19:22 > 0:19:24We might actually consider how something looks,

0:19:24 > 0:19:28rather than how it performs, or whether we can afford it.

0:19:28 > 0:19:31And no prizes for guessing the end result.

0:19:31 > 0:19:34That's a nice black skirt.

0:19:34 > 0:19:36I bought that one evening.

0:19:36 > 0:19:41But, I think I've got six, seven, eight black skirts.

0:19:41 > 0:19:43I'm quite ashamed now, actually.

0:19:43 > 0:19:49This is obviously why online shopping at night is so dangerous.

0:19:50 > 0:19:52Don't worry, Karen.

0:19:52 > 0:19:54It's not all down to you.

0:19:54 > 0:19:57Businesses spend a lot of time and effort trying to persuade us

0:19:57 > 0:19:59to part with our money after dark.

0:19:59 > 0:20:03Retailers are taking advantage of shopping behaviour

0:20:03 > 0:20:07by leveraging data that they have on the consumers

0:20:07 > 0:20:09and they are targeting with more relevant e-mails,

0:20:09 > 0:20:13with more relevant social media, even with mobile messaging,

0:20:13 > 0:20:17even when it's not traditionally a typical buying hour.

0:20:18 > 0:20:21And they're launching marketing campaigns

0:20:21 > 0:20:23to coincide with top-rated evening telly.

0:20:23 > 0:20:26You've got more and more of the retailers

0:20:26 > 0:20:28that are sending targeted,

0:20:28 > 0:20:32relevant information off of the heels of popular things

0:20:32 > 0:20:35like Strictly Come Dancing or Bake Off.

0:20:35 > 0:20:40You're seeing a rise in kitchenware purchases after an episode.

0:20:40 > 0:20:43I get bombarded all the time by different retailers,

0:20:43 > 0:20:46even if I've not shopped with them online.

0:20:46 > 0:20:52They get my e-mail address and then I'm targeted with enticements,

0:20:52 > 0:20:54inducements to start shopping with them.

0:20:56 > 0:20:57Instant delivery,

0:20:57 > 0:21:01loads of choice and special deals targeted directly at you

0:21:01 > 0:21:04all add up to a shopping experience that's difficult to resist.

0:21:04 > 0:21:08And there's one more thing that makes suckers of vampire shoppers.

0:21:08 > 0:21:13A partner who might usually advise us might actually be asleep.

0:21:13 > 0:21:16The children who we buy something for may not have an input.

0:21:16 > 0:21:20We may not have a friend, there, who I can ask, "Do I look big in this?"

0:21:20 > 0:21:23And who can kind of give us this advice?

0:21:24 > 0:21:27It's a very, very different way of making decisions.

0:21:28 > 0:21:29But, despite all this,

0:21:29 > 0:21:34Karen is determined to continue hunting out those after-dark offers.

0:21:34 > 0:21:38I have never tried not to be a vampire shopper

0:21:38 > 0:21:42but I would never intend to stop, I don't want to stop.

0:21:42 > 0:21:44But, if you do want to avoid waking up to a hefty hole

0:21:44 > 0:21:47in your bank balance, here's some advice.

0:21:47 > 0:21:51The one bit of advice that I would give to consumers

0:21:51 > 0:21:52is not checking out.

0:21:53 > 0:21:57You may well make your choice but then decide,

0:21:57 > 0:22:00I'm not going to check out until tomorrow morning.

0:22:00 > 0:22:05If you are habitually somebody who spends and overspends at that

0:22:05 > 0:22:09particular time, perhaps consciously do something different.

0:22:09 > 0:22:10Go for a walk.

0:22:11 > 0:22:12And if none of that works,

0:22:12 > 0:22:16there's one foolproof way of curbing your night-time shopping.

0:22:16 > 0:22:20Close your tablets, switch off the lights and just go to sleep.

0:22:20 > 0:22:21Night-night.

0:22:24 > 0:22:26And after all that spending in the dead of night,

0:22:26 > 0:22:30maybe we should all think about how we can use the daylight hours

0:22:30 > 0:22:31to make some extra cash.

0:22:31 > 0:22:34That's exactly what Diane and Francesca do.

0:22:34 > 0:22:37I'm going to start with you, Francesca.

0:22:37 > 0:22:40A lot of people feel that they are only earning enough to cover the

0:22:40 > 0:22:41bills in their regular job.

0:22:41 > 0:22:43So tell me about your extra line of work.

0:22:43 > 0:22:46So, the extra jobs that I do from home is I do dog boarding,

0:22:46 > 0:22:48where I take in dogs from people going on holiday,

0:22:48 > 0:22:49to earn extra cash.

0:22:49 > 0:22:52So you get the beauty of looking after people's dogs

0:22:52 > 0:22:53and you're getting paid for it? Yes.

0:22:53 > 0:22:55I love it. It's a really good way of earning money, I think,

0:22:55 > 0:22:57because it's so much fun.

0:22:57 > 0:22:59And then there's things like blogging, so I have a blog,

0:22:59 > 0:23:01From Pennies To Pounds.

0:23:01 > 0:23:04This month, I'm due to make about ?1,000 from that.

0:23:04 > 0:23:05On top of your extra job?

0:23:05 > 0:23:08Gordon Bennett, it's a lot of money, isn't it? It is. Yes, it's good.

0:23:08 > 0:23:12Diane, what about you? Tell me about some of the things that you've done.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15Mystery dining. Online surveys.

0:23:15 > 0:23:18Can I be nosy and ask roughly what you're earning out of it, Diane?

0:23:18 > 0:23:21Varies. Like last year might have been

0:23:21 > 0:23:24just about ?1,500 in vouchers and cash.

0:23:24 > 0:23:26Let's look on the flip side of it.

0:23:26 > 0:23:28You're earning about 1,500 quid in vouchers and money

0:23:28 > 0:23:31and everything else, but you're also eating out free.

0:23:31 > 0:23:33You're testing products which, most of the time, you get to keep.

0:23:33 > 0:23:36Yes. It's money for nothing, really, isn't it?

0:23:36 > 0:23:39Why did you get into it and what difference has made to your life?

0:23:39 > 0:23:43I got into it because I found myself in some debt, consumer debt.

0:23:43 > 0:23:46I realised that I really needed to make some extra money from home

0:23:46 > 0:23:48in order to pay it off.

0:23:48 > 0:23:51So I started to have a look around at what I could find

0:23:51 > 0:23:53and I found lots of blogs where people are making money

0:23:53 > 0:23:55so I started my own blog.

0:23:55 > 0:23:58So, by blogging, writing about how to save money,

0:23:58 > 0:23:59you can actually earn money?

0:23:59 > 0:24:01That's right. OK.

0:24:01 > 0:24:04So I paid off my debt last month, and it took about a year.

0:24:04 > 0:24:07Had it not been for all this extra income, you'd still be in debt?

0:24:07 > 0:24:09Yes, I'd say so, yes. So it's paid dividends for you?

0:24:09 > 0:24:11Definitely. Yes.

0:24:11 > 0:24:14A lot of people right now will be looking at this and thinking,

0:24:14 > 0:24:16"I want to do that, I want to look after dogs,

0:24:16 > 0:24:18"I want to go mystery dining."

0:24:18 > 0:24:21Where do they go to get the information from?

0:24:21 > 0:24:24What should they be careful of, as well?

0:24:24 > 0:24:29Go online and, in a search engine, put in customer survey sites.

0:24:29 > 0:24:33That'll bring up some sites, but be careful of scams.

0:24:33 > 0:24:34Research. Always do your research.

0:24:34 > 0:24:36So what you're saying is that,

0:24:36 > 0:24:40get some reviews on the company that you're about to get the work from.

0:24:40 > 0:24:43There's some really great ideas there.

0:24:43 > 0:24:44Thanks for your time.

0:24:44 > 0:24:45Good luck to you both. BOTH: Thank you.

0:24:47 > 0:24:50Here at Halifax Market I think we would all agree that those are great

0:24:50 > 0:24:53ideas for making a little extra cash,

0:24:53 > 0:24:56particularly as you never know when you might need it.

0:24:56 > 0:24:59Claer, I want to talk to you about savings, or the lack of them.

0:24:59 > 0:25:03Now reports suggest that half of working-class families and one third

0:25:03 > 0:25:08of middle-class households would have to borrow money to pay for a

0:25:08 > 0:25:10?500 bill. That's quite alarming.

0:25:10 > 0:25:14I do think it's alarming, but it doesn't surprise me, because,

0:25:14 > 0:25:18if you look at what's happening in the economy in the UK at the moment,

0:25:18 > 0:25:20wages are not going up.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22They're stubbornly stuck.

0:25:22 > 0:25:25But the cost of living, inflation, is rising.

0:25:25 > 0:25:30We are feeling the pinch and it's harder to make regular savings.

0:25:30 > 0:25:32Of course, then a big, unexpected bill comes around the corner

0:25:32 > 0:25:36and lo and behold, you don't have enough money to deal with that.

0:25:36 > 0:25:39So your only alternative is to get into debt.

0:25:39 > 0:25:42Now, debt is plentiful but it's expensive, often.

0:25:42 > 0:25:45If you don't have a good credit rating then you'll really,

0:25:45 > 0:25:48really be fleeced. What you need to do is look at the cost of that debt,

0:25:48 > 0:25:51whether it's a payday loan, whether it's an unauthorised overdraft,

0:25:51 > 0:25:54an authorised overdraft, which would be much cheaper,

0:25:54 > 0:25:57or even using a credit card to paper over the cracks.

0:25:57 > 0:26:00So long as you understand the cost and understand the repayments

0:26:00 > 0:26:03then that's the knowledge that you need to make the decision.

0:26:03 > 0:26:05OK, Claer, let's go speak to the people in Halifax.

0:26:05 > 0:26:06Sure.

0:26:10 > 0:26:14Would it surprise you to know that a lot of people in the UK don't have

0:26:14 > 0:26:16more than ?100 in their savings? Wouldn't surprise me, no.

0:26:16 > 0:26:18Things just cost too much nowadays, don't they?

0:26:18 > 0:26:20The cost of living, everything.

0:26:20 > 0:26:22It's hard to save.

0:26:22 > 0:26:26If a ?500 bill were to land on your doorstep today,

0:26:26 > 0:26:28would you be going into panic? Yes.

0:26:28 > 0:26:30Yes, definitely. Yeah.

0:26:30 > 0:26:32Do you ever look at the bank interest?

0:26:32 > 0:26:37No. No brass in. All I think is, "Have I got it with me?"

0:26:37 > 0:26:39He's got a few notes in there.

0:26:39 > 0:26:43So, how can you pay your bills if you haven't got a bank account?

0:26:43 > 0:26:46Just get me brass and pay it.

0:26:46 > 0:26:48In the bank? You go in with cash to and pay over the counter?

0:26:48 > 0:26:49Yeah, oh, yeah.

0:26:49 > 0:26:54Does it surprise you to hear that the average household probably

0:26:54 > 0:26:55doesn't even have ?100 savings?

0:26:57 > 0:26:59I'd be one, I'd be in that category.

0:26:59 > 0:27:03I live every day at a time and if I've got money

0:27:03 > 0:27:05at the end of the week, then we can have a treat.

0:27:05 > 0:27:09What would you do if you got an unexpected bill for, say, ?500?

0:27:09 > 0:27:11Panic. Yeah.

0:27:11 > 0:27:15I always make sure I've got a few hundred quid, if I need it.

0:27:15 > 0:27:18If the telly breaks down or the washer breaks down.

0:27:18 > 0:27:20I've always got money there to cover that.

0:27:20 > 0:27:23What advice would you give to the younger generation,

0:27:23 > 0:27:26who want things now, and they want to buy things on credit?

0:27:26 > 0:27:28You can't get through to them.

0:27:28 > 0:27:30You can't make them understand until it comes to them.

0:27:33 > 0:27:36Earlier on we met a couple from Leicestershire

0:27:36 > 0:27:38who just couldn't seem to stop overspending,

0:27:38 > 0:27:41despite desperately trying to save up enough money

0:27:41 > 0:27:43to care for a relative. Let's see how they got on.

0:27:46 > 0:27:48Paul and Kim Welsh have a dream -

0:27:48 > 0:27:51to save enough money to build an extension to their house,

0:27:51 > 0:27:53and there's a good reason why they need it.

0:27:56 > 0:28:00Kim's brother has an eye disease and could lose his sight,

0:28:00 > 0:28:03so being close to Kim and her family is something he really needs.

0:28:04 > 0:28:06Currently we've got a garage.

0:28:06 > 0:28:07We would knock the garage down

0:28:07 > 0:28:09and we would build a self-contained house.

0:28:09 > 0:28:13So Uncle Alex would move in and be independent but then also have the

0:28:13 > 0:28:16support of us if he needed.

0:28:16 > 0:28:20Money expert Sarah Pennells has already found ways to rein in their

0:28:20 > 0:28:23spending by curbing their food and clothes shopping.

0:28:23 > 0:28:25You are probably the only family I know

0:28:25 > 0:28:28who actually have a burger mortgage. That's crazy.

0:28:28 > 0:28:30Take cash out at the beginning of the week.

0:28:30 > 0:28:32And when the money's gone, you stop spending it.

0:28:33 > 0:28:38Spurred on by the ?7,300 savings Sarah's made them so far,

0:28:38 > 0:28:41they've invited over builder Andrew Turner

0:28:41 > 0:28:44to find out exactly how much the extension will cost.

0:28:44 > 0:28:46Looking at two bedrooms, kitchen, bathroom,

0:28:46 > 0:28:49so my idea is two bedrooms at the back.

0:28:49 > 0:28:51Then you've got your hallway and kitchen and living room.

0:28:51 > 0:28:53Four metres by seven metres.

0:28:56 > 0:28:59So after a few measurements, what's the damage?

0:29:00 > 0:29:06A rough estimate, you are between ?40-45,000.

0:29:06 > 0:29:07OK.

0:29:08 > 0:29:11That's a bit more than we was sort of expecting, wasn't it?

0:29:11 > 0:29:13A bit, yeah.

0:29:13 > 0:29:14Hmmm. Food for thought.

0:29:14 > 0:29:16Definitely.

0:29:16 > 0:29:20Better get saving, Mr Welsh. I'd better get working double-time.

0:29:21 > 0:29:24Now that Paul and Kim have a better idea of the

0:29:24 > 0:29:26amount they need to raise,

0:29:26 > 0:29:29Sarah's back to help advise on how they can do it,

0:29:29 > 0:29:32and joining her is mortgage broker David Hollingsworth.

0:29:32 > 0:29:35He starts off by reviewing their current mortgage payments,

0:29:35 > 0:29:37which have just increased.

0:29:37 > 0:29:40Presumably it's one of your biggest outgoings.

0:29:40 > 0:29:42How much are you paying there?

0:29:43 > 0:29:45?430, I think, now.

0:29:45 > 0:29:50Last year when I was on my deal, it was more like ?330, ?340.

0:29:50 > 0:29:51So it's nearly ?100.

0:29:51 > 0:29:56That's a big jump. The reason that's happened is your original deal will

0:29:56 > 0:29:59have come to an end, you've reverted onto the lender's

0:29:59 > 0:30:01standard variable rate as they call it.

0:30:01 > 0:30:04What it means is a more expensive mortgage.

0:30:04 > 0:30:07So you really need to start shopping around.

0:30:07 > 0:30:10Paul and Kim have been caught out when their current deal expired

0:30:10 > 0:30:13and are now paying over the odds for their mortgage.

0:30:13 > 0:30:17It's easy to ignore our mortgage once it's set up, but if you do,

0:30:17 > 0:30:20you could be throwing money away on an expensive rate when there are

0:30:20 > 0:30:22better options available.

0:30:22 > 0:30:26And David has just found a brand-new deal for Paul and Kim.

0:30:26 > 0:30:32So, all in all, then, how much do you think Kim and Paul could save,

0:30:32 > 0:30:34if they were to switch today?

0:30:34 > 0:30:37I think that could be taking your, annual outgoings,

0:30:37 > 0:30:40of what is about ?5,000 a year at the moment,

0:30:40 > 0:30:44I think we could be shaving a good ?1,200 or more from that.

0:30:44 > 0:30:46That's a lot of money, isn't it?

0:30:46 > 0:30:48Too right. By switching,

0:30:48 > 0:30:50Paul and Kim could be stashing away

0:30:50 > 0:30:53?1,200 a year, making the extension a step closer.

0:30:53 > 0:30:56?100 a month for us is a lot.

0:30:56 > 0:30:58And if we put it in a separate pot,

0:30:58 > 0:31:01and I can see at building up and we know what the end result is, then,

0:31:01 > 0:31:02that will make a huge difference.

0:31:02 > 0:31:05There's still some more that we can do. There's still some more savings,

0:31:05 > 0:31:07but I think we're on the way now, aren't we?

0:31:07 > 0:31:08Yeah, definitely. It's exciting.

0:31:10 > 0:31:13Although Paul and Kim want to avoid borrowing more money on their

0:31:13 > 0:31:14mortgage if they can help it,

0:31:14 > 0:31:18Sarah has a great tip for them if they decide to borrow a little to

0:31:18 > 0:31:19help finance the extension.

0:31:19 > 0:31:22And it's all to do with making them

0:31:22 > 0:31:24an attractive proposition to lenders.

0:31:24 > 0:31:27You said you were a bit worried about

0:31:27 > 0:31:29your credit rating not being brilliant.

0:31:29 > 0:31:31It's not very high, maybe that's because

0:31:31 > 0:31:33I've not done much with my credit

0:31:33 > 0:31:35and then also with Paul, I've looked at Paul's

0:31:35 > 0:31:37and you've not got any history, have you?

0:31:37 > 0:31:40So it is one of these odd things in terms of,

0:31:40 > 0:31:42if you haven't had credit cards,

0:31:42 > 0:31:46if you've just lived on your savings and the money in the bank account,

0:31:46 > 0:31:48oddly, David, you're not always

0:31:48 > 0:31:50looked on in the best light by the lenders.

0:31:50 > 0:31:54Lenders are looking to get a feel for what you look like,

0:31:54 > 0:31:58what your credit profile looks like and, if they can't see anything,

0:31:58 > 0:32:00that gives them a bit of a problem,

0:32:00 > 0:32:03so if you have credit cards that have been conducted well,

0:32:03 > 0:32:05that might help you a little bit.

0:32:07 > 0:32:09Top-dollar advice, David.

0:32:09 > 0:32:11And Kim and Paul owe you a debt of gratitude.

0:32:12 > 0:32:15Time for Sarah to take this couple on another leg of

0:32:15 > 0:32:18her money-saving journey. She's worked out that Kim and Paul

0:32:18 > 0:32:22are spending a small fortune each month on mini breaks.

0:32:22 > 0:32:26So, at the moment you do spend a fair bit on your weekends away.

0:32:26 > 0:32:27What would you spend?

0:32:27 > 0:32:30Anything from about ?200 to probably about ?500,

0:32:30 > 0:32:32and that's probably once a month.

0:32:32 > 0:32:33Wow, that's nice.

0:32:33 > 0:32:34Let me get my bags.

0:32:34 > 0:32:37And how do you choose where you end up? And how much you pay?

0:32:37 > 0:32:39Just look on the internet, basically.

0:32:39 > 0:32:41Look for the best deal out there.

0:32:41 > 0:32:42In the past year,

0:32:42 > 0:32:46this travel-mad couple racked up many miles on their short breaks,

0:32:46 > 0:32:49which put a great big dent in their annual budget.

0:32:49 > 0:32:56So you said that you spend anything between ?200 and ?500 a month on

0:32:56 > 0:32:58going away. Yeah.

0:32:59 > 0:33:04And that's between ?2,400 and ?6,000 a year.

0:33:05 > 0:33:08Wow, that's a lot. That's like a family holiday.

0:33:08 > 0:33:09That is two family holidays.

0:33:09 > 0:33:12Does it feel like it's that much?

0:33:12 > 0:33:14You book in advance, and it's paid for.

0:33:14 > 0:33:16So you book it one month, say,

0:33:16 > 0:33:18then you're spending the money the next month

0:33:18 > 0:33:19when you actually go away,

0:33:19 > 0:33:23so you're never actually adding up the whole cost of each break. OK.

0:33:25 > 0:33:28Managing your budget means making choices.

0:33:28 > 0:33:31Either cutting back or looking for cheaper alternatives.

0:33:31 > 0:33:34Sarah's keen for Kim and Paul to think of other options

0:33:34 > 0:33:36when it comes to planning their me time.

0:33:37 > 0:33:42Something like this, this crazy golf, it's just ?4 for a session,

0:33:42 > 0:33:44so it's really cheap, really good value.

0:33:44 > 0:33:48And there are loads of other things that you can do as well,

0:33:48 > 0:33:50salsa dance classes, whatever takes your fancy.

0:33:50 > 0:33:52Kim's not got no rhythm, so...

0:33:52 > 0:33:55Paul's got the rhythm. He can dance.

0:33:55 > 0:33:56I'm not a very good dancer.

0:33:56 > 0:33:57Watch it, Paul!

0:33:57 > 0:33:59Well, there you go, you can learn together.

0:33:59 > 0:34:01You can learn a new skill.

0:34:01 > 0:34:03I think the three key things are, firstly,

0:34:03 > 0:34:07to look for cheap or free things you can do on your doorstep.

0:34:07 > 0:34:09Secondly, if you are going to go away,

0:34:09 > 0:34:13go away once every other month if you can, rather than once a month,

0:34:13 > 0:34:16and thirdly, look at the overall cost so that

0:34:16 > 0:34:19then you know exactly what you're spending and what that means for

0:34:19 > 0:34:21your spending the rest of the year.

0:34:21 > 0:34:23There is just one other tip, as well,

0:34:23 > 0:34:26which means that you can still go away, which is house-sitting.

0:34:26 > 0:34:29House-sitting? What's that about?

0:34:29 > 0:34:32So, when someone goes away on holiday, you move in,

0:34:32 > 0:34:35water their plants, look after the house, make sure it looks lived in,

0:34:35 > 0:34:39but what you get is a really low cost or free,

0:34:39 > 0:34:43depending where it is, break. Yeah, that does sound good.

0:34:43 > 0:34:44Be interesting, wouldn't it?

0:34:44 > 0:34:45Definitely.

0:34:46 > 0:34:51Wow. If they swapped hotel stays for house-sits and took advantage of

0:34:51 > 0:34:54free opportunities on their doorstep,

0:34:54 > 0:34:55they could save

0:34:55 > 0:34:574,800 smackers a year.

0:34:57 > 0:35:02With another big saving delivered, Sarah's visit is about to end.

0:35:02 > 0:35:05But, before she goes, Pennells has one last bit of advice.

0:35:06 > 0:35:10We're talking about saving and how much we're going to help you to save

0:35:10 > 0:35:13but there is one thing that I just want to talk to you about.

0:35:13 > 0:35:16It's actually not about saving money, it's about

0:35:16 > 0:35:17spending a bit of money.

0:35:17 > 0:35:20What?! Sarah wants to spend money?

0:35:20 > 0:35:21This must be important!

0:35:21 > 0:35:24I've noticed that you don't have home insurance

0:35:24 > 0:35:25or life insurance, do you?

0:35:25 > 0:35:27We don't, no.

0:35:27 > 0:35:28I've never thought about it.

0:35:28 > 0:35:30I don't feel like I'm going anywhere, yet.

0:35:30 > 0:35:33I feel young still. You are young.

0:35:33 > 0:35:36We've got to be serious. We've got four children.

0:35:36 > 0:35:38We need to be prepared, if the worst was to happen.

0:35:38 > 0:35:41I suppose you never know what's round the corner, do you?

0:35:41 > 0:35:44Unfortunately, you don't. Of course we all want to think that we're

0:35:44 > 0:35:47going to live forever, certainly for a long time,

0:35:47 > 0:35:49but you don't actually know what life's going to throw at you,

0:35:49 > 0:35:53so you need to have plans in place so that,

0:35:53 > 0:35:55if the worst were to happen,

0:35:55 > 0:35:57Kim or you wasn't left with a mortgage

0:35:57 > 0:36:00that you couldn't afford to pay... And a big massive debt.

0:36:00 > 0:36:03..once you have to look after children,

0:36:03 > 0:36:06so I'd really recommend that you talk to your broker,

0:36:06 > 0:36:10have a look at comparison sites and find life insurance

0:36:10 > 0:36:13and the same with home insurance.

0:36:13 > 0:36:17Unfortunately, houses do get damaged by fire and floods,

0:36:17 > 0:36:19nasty things happen.

0:36:19 > 0:36:20And, in the worst cases,

0:36:20 > 0:36:24it could actually mean you would have to start from scratch.

0:36:24 > 0:36:28That is a sobering piece of advice which will set Paul and Kim up with

0:36:28 > 0:36:30a more secure financial future,

0:36:30 > 0:36:33particularly if they are going to be looking after brother Alex.

0:36:33 > 0:36:38A reputable comparison site or insurance broker is a good place to

0:36:38 > 0:36:40start, where you will be able to see the cover and the price

0:36:40 > 0:36:43that works best for you.

0:36:43 > 0:36:46It is something that we need to sort out ASAP, really. Yeah.

0:36:46 > 0:36:48Time for Sarah to go.

0:36:48 > 0:36:51From now on, Paul and Kim will be on their own,

0:36:51 > 0:36:55but if they follow our advice they could save

0:36:55 > 0:36:59a whopping ?4,800 a year on food, ?2,500 on clothes,

0:36:59 > 0:37:05?1,200 on their mortgage and another ?4,800 on short breaks,

0:37:05 > 0:37:10making a grand total of ?13,300.

0:37:10 > 0:37:14That extension and a secure home for their kids' future is now

0:37:14 > 0:37:16one big step closer.

0:37:16 > 0:37:21Well, meeting Sarah and the whole thing has shown us a way to start

0:37:21 > 0:37:24focusing to save some money, basically.

0:37:25 > 0:37:27Like I've said to Kim plenty of times,

0:37:27 > 0:37:30if we save hard, we can do things.

0:37:30 > 0:37:32It's all about saving.

0:37:32 > 0:37:35Yeah, I think it's made us realise that it's got to stop being a

0:37:35 > 0:37:38far off dream. We don't know what's going to happen with Alex.

0:37:38 > 0:37:41We don't know how long he's got his eyesight for at the minute,

0:37:41 > 0:37:43and the quicker that building's up,

0:37:43 > 0:37:46the quicker we are all secure and happy and he's safe.

0:37:46 > 0:37:47Yeah, definitely.

0:37:53 > 0:37:56And Kim and Paul are here along with personal finance expert

0:37:56 > 0:38:00Claer Barrett. First off, you two, you both work very hard,

0:38:00 > 0:38:03six days a week, both of you,

0:38:03 > 0:38:07and so, no-one could begrudge you spending a little on yourselves.

0:38:07 > 0:38:09And on the kids. And on takeaways.

0:38:09 > 0:38:13And on food. But there's a point where you have to say, "Whoa."

0:38:13 > 0:38:16And I think this is it. Definitely. It's our wake-up call.

0:38:16 > 0:38:20We did work hard, so we thought it was OK to do what we were doing,

0:38:20 > 0:38:22but probably not very practical. Think about the future.

0:38:22 > 0:38:25What's the biggest lesson you think you've learned?

0:38:25 > 0:38:28It would have to be the burger mortgage.

0:38:28 > 0:38:33The amount we spend on takeaways, meals out, rubbish.

0:38:33 > 0:38:36To see that in black and... Well, in burgers...

0:38:36 > 0:38:38It was a real eye-opener for me.

0:38:38 > 0:38:41In the film, obviously we spoke about Kim and Paul's mortgage and

0:38:41 > 0:38:44you obviously weren't on the best one out there for you at the moment.

0:38:44 > 0:38:45What would be your advice?

0:38:45 > 0:38:48I know that you've been hunting around to find the best rates.

0:38:48 > 0:38:50That's step one. Very good.

0:38:50 > 0:38:54But, when you actually find the rate and you actually want to apply for

0:38:54 > 0:38:57that deal, don't forget, it won't be an instant process.

0:38:57 > 0:39:00It could take as long as two or three months for you to get that

0:39:00 > 0:39:03remortgage deal and, in the meantime,

0:39:03 > 0:39:04get your finances in order.

0:39:04 > 0:39:07There are really tough rules now about affordability.

0:39:07 > 0:39:10The lender has to be satisfied that the money they are lending you is

0:39:10 > 0:39:13something that you're going to be able to afford to pay back,

0:39:13 > 0:39:16so they will want to scrutinise your bank statements.

0:39:16 > 0:39:19They will want to see income and expenditure

0:39:19 > 0:39:22being spent in a managed, even and orderly manner.

0:39:22 > 0:39:24They won't want to see any big spikes going up or down,

0:39:24 > 0:39:27because that could mean, in the future you might not have enough

0:39:27 > 0:39:29money left at the end of the month to pay back

0:39:29 > 0:39:31the bigger loan that you want to take on.

0:39:31 > 0:39:34To be honest, Clare I find it a little bit confusing

0:39:34 > 0:39:37and maybe contradictory that we talk about

0:39:37 > 0:39:40make sure you use your cash, make sure you only

0:39:40 > 0:39:42access what's in your pocket,

0:39:42 > 0:39:46but here we are encouraging Paul to have a credit card.

0:39:46 > 0:39:49Your problem is that you have what's known in the industry

0:39:49 > 0:39:51as a thin credit file.

0:39:51 > 0:39:53Normally, being thin is a good thing but having a thin credit file is,

0:39:53 > 0:39:56unfortunately, a bad thing because it means that there's not enough

0:39:56 > 0:40:00information for the people who are giving credit to assess whether

0:40:00 > 0:40:01you'd be a good risk or a bad risk,

0:40:01 > 0:40:03so they have to err on the side of caution

0:40:03 > 0:40:05and charge you a lot of money.

0:40:05 > 0:40:06So if you can get a credit card and borrow

0:40:06 > 0:40:08a bit of money every month and

0:40:08 > 0:40:09pay it back at the end of the month,

0:40:09 > 0:40:12then you're showing them that you are a responsible borrower...

0:40:12 > 0:40:14Now, you two love a bargain, don't you?

0:40:14 > 0:40:16I do. Yes, you love a bargain.

0:40:16 > 0:40:19But bargains aren't always what they seem, are they?

0:40:19 > 0:40:23Absolutely. That 70% off you see on a website,

0:40:23 > 0:40:26maybe when you're doing your vampire shopping in the middle of the night,

0:40:26 > 0:40:28and, you think, "Ooh!" You focus on the discount.

0:40:28 > 0:40:31Now, I know that Kim and Paul like to go and stay in hotels.

0:40:31 > 0:40:35When I go on online hotel booking sites I am shocked, frankly,

0:40:35 > 0:40:38by the level of sales pressure that they put on you by saying,

0:40:38 > 0:40:40"47 other people are looking at this room.

0:40:40 > 0:40:41"There are only three rooms left.

0:40:41 > 0:40:43"You'd better book, you'd better book."

0:40:43 > 0:40:45I find it really difficult to resist.

0:40:45 > 0:40:48Kim, that's the sort of thing I believe you probably get swayed by,

0:40:48 > 0:40:50isn't it? That really clever marketing,

0:40:50 > 0:40:52telling you how the rooms are going quickly and

0:40:52 > 0:40:54how many people are looking at it.

0:40:54 > 0:40:56Yes. Definitely. Sat at home on my own of an evening, Paul's at work

0:40:56 > 0:40:58and I think, "Oh, that's great.

0:40:58 > 0:41:00"Quick, there's only one room left, I need to book it,

0:41:00 > 0:41:03"I don't need to discuss it." But we've decided now that,

0:41:03 > 0:41:06before I do anything or buy anything, and the same with Paul,

0:41:06 > 0:41:08we'll have that conversation. We said in the film that

0:41:08 > 0:41:11we need to communicate more about our spending habits.

0:41:11 > 0:41:13With all the good advice you've been given,

0:41:13 > 0:41:16do you feel more confident about getting Alex in that extension?

0:41:17 > 0:41:18Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

0:41:18 > 0:41:21We have talked endlessly since filming.

0:41:21 > 0:41:24We've decided it's got to happen this year and we're putting plans in

0:41:24 > 0:41:28place for it to happen, so watch this space.

0:41:28 > 0:41:29Well done, both of you. Keep up the good work.

0:41:29 > 0:41:31And keep saving.

0:41:31 > 0:41:32It's all about saving.

0:41:32 > 0:41:35And if you've got something you're saving up for and you'd like help

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0:42:11 > 0:42:14And Claer is still with us to answer some of your questions.

0:42:14 > 0:42:17Lauren wants to know, what's the best plan for saving for the future?

0:42:17 > 0:42:20Is it a pension or is it property?

0:42:20 > 0:42:22Well, actually, it's both.

0:42:22 > 0:42:25Lots of young people especially think they have to save up to get on

0:42:25 > 0:42:28the property ladder and that they shouldn't worry about a pension,

0:42:28 > 0:42:31they should defer that until they get older, put everything into the

0:42:31 > 0:42:34plan for the house, but that's actually the wrong thing to do,

0:42:34 > 0:42:37because it's the pension contributions that you make

0:42:37 > 0:42:40when you're really young that have got the most time to grow

0:42:40 > 0:42:44and compound away and become even more valuable when you're old,

0:42:44 > 0:42:48so you definitely shouldn't put off starting a pension because you're

0:42:48 > 0:42:51saving to get onto the property ladder, even if you can only

0:42:51 > 0:42:53pay in a small amount, it will really reap the rewards over time.

0:42:53 > 0:42:58Danielle says, I've been with my bank for 15 years and I feel loyal

0:42:58 > 0:43:01to them. Is it bad to stick with the same bank for so long?

0:43:01 > 0:43:02Well, many people do.

0:43:02 > 0:43:06In fact, one survey says that people are more likely to get divorced from

0:43:06 > 0:43:10their partner than they are to split up with their bank, but,

0:43:10 > 0:43:12like any relationship, it's all about give and take.

0:43:12 > 0:43:14What's your bank giving you?

0:43:14 > 0:43:16Are they giving you a decent rate of interest?

0:43:16 > 0:43:18What are they taking from you?

0:43:18 > 0:43:21Are they charging you a high fee, for example, for your overdraft?

0:43:21 > 0:43:24These of all the things that you've got to look into if you are

0:43:24 > 0:43:26considering changing your bank account.

0:43:26 > 0:43:28Also, you might want to make some extra money.

0:43:28 > 0:43:32Many accounts will offer you ?100 or more if you switch

0:43:32 > 0:43:36within a certain time frame to them and others have got other deals,

0:43:36 > 0:43:40like a great mobile banking app that can help you track your spending.

0:43:40 > 0:43:41So these are all things to consider.

0:43:41 > 0:43:43Thanks a lot, Claer, some great advice, there.

0:43:43 > 0:43:45And thank you to all our guests today as well.

0:43:45 > 0:43:47And not forgetting you at home, too.

0:43:47 > 0:43:50We hope you've picked up some more money-saving nuggets to help your

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