Episode 14

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:00:02. > :00:09.left you feeling ripped off. think it is very wrong, what they

:00:09. > :00:16.have done. The bank piles on charges and charges. Legally it was

:00:16. > :00:22.right, but morally, that is where the Dow it is. You contacted us in

:00:22. > :00:29.your thousands, by post and e-mail, stopping us in the street. I do not

:00:29. > :00:34.always get a straight answer, they just fob you off. We are being

:00:34. > :00:39.ripped off, big time. Whether it is a deliberate rip-off, as simple

:00:39. > :00:44.mistake or a catch in the small print, we will find out why you are

:00:44. > :00:52.out of pocket and what you can do about it. Keep asking the questions,

:00:52. > :00:56.go to the top if you have to. stories, your money, this is Rip

:00:57. > :01:02.Off Britain. Welcome to Rip Off Britain where once again we have

:01:02. > :01:06.been investigating your stories, hearing who has left you feeling

:01:06. > :01:10.ripped off for how you have fallen foul of sharp practices.

:01:10. > :01:16.The financial pressures that households have experienced during

:01:16. > :01:21.the downturn caused 1.2 million of you to abandon saving into your

:01:21. > :01:26.pensions. Some of you have looked elsewhere to secure your future but

:01:26. > :01:29.with devastating effects. Today we will hear how some of you

:01:30. > :01:34.have ended up losing tens of thousands of pounds thanks to

:01:34. > :01:40.opportunities that turned out to be different to the ones you thought

:01:40. > :01:45.you had signed up to. In one case, the company responsible appears to

:01:45. > :01:49.have vanished completely. Later today we will be

:01:49. > :01:55.investigating how this man stands to lose �9,000 after an investment

:01:55. > :02:01.did not go to plan. I have spent a lot of money and I have ended up

:02:01. > :02:06.with absolutely nothing. And how a promise of profits from owning land

:02:06. > :02:09.has had devastating consequences. We found out that they had not

:02:09. > :02:16.applied for planning permission and they had effectively made off with

:02:16. > :02:21.a lot of money. We set up our very own Pol Pot Shop where you came men

:02:21. > :02:25.and told us your consumer concerns. Some of the stories we will hear

:02:25. > :02:31.today are to do with putting your money into some sort of property or

:02:31. > :02:36.land, whether it is at home or abroad. An increasingly popular

:02:36. > :02:40.choice in this country is what is called a part home. These are

:02:40. > :02:45.bungalows style mobile homes usually sit on private estates

:02:45. > :02:50.where the lure of a picturesque location has convinced thousands to

:02:50. > :02:54.sell up and take the plunge. But they are not regulated in the same

:02:54. > :02:59.way as traditional homes and some owners have found themselves drawn

:02:59. > :03:05.into lengthy battles with the part's management.

:03:05. > :03:09.The John Gilmore has lived here since 1978. With the beautiful

:03:09. > :03:15.countryside on his doorstep and the strong sense of community spirit in

:03:15. > :03:20.the area, he expected this to be his final move. He opted to buy

:03:20. > :03:29.what is commonly called a part home. He purchased the property but not

:03:29. > :03:34.the land it sits on. I thought, this is a nice place, I can see my

:03:34. > :03:43.gaze out here. When we moved here, everyone had their own fence and

:03:43. > :03:50.that was it. This is the hanging baskets and the flowers and the

:03:50. > :03:55.decking that I had. Four years after moving in, lie for John

:03:55. > :04:02.changed. The brand new owners took over the site. It was not long

:04:02. > :04:08.before they started to make changes. My place was parallel to the road.

:04:08. > :04:14.He wanted to widen the road. Not only that, he wanted me to 90

:04:14. > :04:20.degrees so I was in line with all the others, which they did. In the

:04:20. > :04:24.process, John's porch and decking were demolished and rebuilding them

:04:24. > :04:32.would cost �9,000, so he asked the company to foot the bill, but they

:04:32. > :04:38.refused. John was astounded. It has been spoilt by the way we have been

:04:38. > :04:42.treated. We asked the owners to comment on the way John was treated,

:04:42. > :04:48.and the owners said that when he purchased a site it was run down

:04:48. > :04:51.and in breach of its licence. He said he explained to the residents

:04:51. > :04:57.what needed to be done to rectify breaches, including moving some

:04:57. > :05:03.homes. He said he would not be responsible for moving unauthorised

:05:03. > :05:09.extensions, and said that John was fully aware this included his porch

:05:09. > :05:14.and the deck. But John fought back into Kay's case to court. John was

:05:14. > :05:20.told to take down a shed that did not have proper permission, but the

:05:20. > :05:27.company was ordered to pay for John's damage property and a legal

:05:27. > :05:31.costs as well. John has still not received all of his money. The site

:05:31. > :05:36.corners appeal be caught's decision and successfully. They still have

:05:36. > :05:41.to pay the outstanding fees. I will not do any remedial work at my own

:05:41. > :05:48.expense. As the number of people buying into this lifestyle

:05:48. > :05:54.increases, so do the problems. This woman is on the road gathering

:05:54. > :06:02.information from people like John. It is typical of what is happening,

:06:02. > :06:06.pretty widespread. Does the part have a residents' association?

:06:06. > :06:13.This woman has sent her findings to MPs in the hope that they will do

:06:13. > :06:17.more to protect residents' right. This is a move that one trading

:06:17. > :06:22.standards officer would welcome. Owners can increase their rounds

:06:22. > :06:26.year-on-year if the part was kept up to the standard that it was when

:06:27. > :06:32.people into their contracts, they are entitled to increase the fee

:06:32. > :06:38.each year by the rate of RPI, but the problems come when parks are

:06:38. > :06:42.neglected and the facilities and then delighted use. Residential

:06:42. > :06:47.property tribunals came into force two naked easier and cheaper to

:06:47. > :06:52.settle disputes, but even now, the onus remains on residents to

:06:52. > :06:58.instigate any legal action. I would not advise anybody in the current

:06:58. > :07:02.climate to buy a part home because even if you are certain that the

:07:02. > :07:07.part home site operator is absolutely splendid, how do you

:07:07. > :07:13.know whether he or she is going to have to sell up? How do you know

:07:13. > :07:17.who will buy the site? Meanwhile, the owner of John's site says that

:07:17. > :07:22.with the help of residents they hoped to bring this place in line

:07:22. > :07:26.with the standard of the rest of their parts. But until that happens,

:07:26. > :07:35.John feels that his dream retirement home has become anything

:07:35. > :07:40.but. I cannot sell the place in its present condition. This is not a

:07:40. > :07:50.place we are proud to living. I used to be able to invite people in,

:07:50. > :07:50.

:07:50. > :07:54.but you're ashamed of the place now. If you're one of the 444,000 people

:07:54. > :08:00.in the UK who owned a holiday timeshare, you have got to be

:08:00. > :08:03.familiar with how they work. You may also be familiar with how

:08:03. > :08:09.tricky they can be to sell on, to end the arrangement if you no

:08:09. > :08:13.longer wanted, so when our programme heard from 50 complaints

:08:13. > :08:19.-- 50 customers of the same company all felt trapped in their contrite,

:08:19. > :08:22.we wanted to see if we could do anything about it, but what

:08:22. > :08:27.happened next surprised even us. Diamond Resorts International are

:08:27. > :08:32.one of the major players in the timeshare market. But Diamond

:08:32. > :08:38.Resorts International is not everybody's best friend. At Rip Off

:08:38. > :08:40.Britain we were contacted by fitted -- 50 British customers of Diamond

:08:40. > :08:45.Resorts International and they are all saying the same thing, that

:08:45. > :08:50.their experience falls short of the glossy standards of the adverts. We

:08:50. > :08:55.cannot identify any of the people we spoke to, and you will see why

:08:55. > :09:02.in a moment, but with the help of one of our research team, we can

:09:02. > :09:07.show you this. We have had lots of it -- lots of e-mails about the

:09:07. > :09:11.company so we decided to look into them. Most of the people we spoke

:09:11. > :09:17.to were initially pleased with their holiday investment, but for

:09:17. > :09:21.some, this Diamond lost its sparkle. Like most timeshare schemes these

:09:21. > :09:26.days, rather than buying into one property, customers of Diamond

:09:26. > :09:30.Resorts International had access to a range of exclusive resorts.

:09:30. > :09:36.People were spending money on points, anywhere from a couple of

:09:36. > :09:40.1,000 pounds, to hundreds of thousands of pounds. With points

:09:40. > :09:44.came the prices of luxury holidays around the world, but there is more

:09:44. > :09:48.money to shell out. Diamond Resorts International customers pay annual

:09:49. > :09:53.maintenance fees for the upkeep of the resort and the amount they are

:09:53. > :09:57.charged is determined by the amount of points they have. That is where

:09:58. > :10:02.the trouble starts. When they signed up they agreed that their

:10:02. > :10:08.management fees would increase with the retail price index, but we have

:10:08. > :10:14.been hearing about increases significantly larger than that. Our

:10:14. > :10:22.and maintenance started off at only �100, it is now more than 1,000.

:10:22. > :10:26.Her management fees were 1004 funded and 50, now they are 2,800.

:10:26. > :10:31.With annual fees now costing more than an entire holiday from a

:10:31. > :10:35.travel agent, the members we heard from decided enough was enough.

:10:35. > :10:39.They wanted out if their contracts even though it meant writing off

:10:39. > :10:44.the thousands be spent on points, but Diamond Resorts International

:10:44. > :10:47.were having none of it. When the colt to cancel the contract they

:10:47. > :10:53.were directed to the small print and they realised that they were

:10:53. > :11:00.trapped. The terms and conditions allied only four circumstances

:11:00. > :11:06.under which customers can cancel, first, the least attractive, death.

:11:06. > :11:11.The second, bankruptcy. You can also cancel if you're over 75, but

:11:11. > :11:16.only if you have no transferable family members. Or if you have

:11:16. > :11:22.medical problems which stop you from travelling. Is such a

:11:22. > :11:26.restrictive contract fair. We need a lawyer. Through the contract

:11:26. > :11:31.there are some interesting points. You can resign from being a member

:11:31. > :11:35.but even if you do that, your liability to pay for things last be

:11:35. > :11:40.on that date. There is a right for the company to sell the points to

:11:40. > :11:46.other people if they wish, but they do not have to do that. It is

:11:46. > :11:51.important that you look at what you are signing up to. I'm happy at the

:11:51. > :11:55.contract, some of the customers stop paying the escalating fees. We

:11:55. > :12:01.have filmed interviews with a whole range of those unhappy customers so

:12:01. > :12:04.you may wonder why you're not seeing them on the screen. It is

:12:04. > :12:09.because after we contacted the company to get their comments there

:12:09. > :12:12.was something of an unexpected development. We gave Diamond

:12:12. > :12:18.Resorts International a list of unhappy customers and suddenly they

:12:18. > :12:23.all received at a letter from the company. It said that they would be

:12:23. > :12:28.freed from their contract under one condition, they could not speak to

:12:28. > :12:33.the media about it. So we're not using the entry views we film,

:12:33. > :12:38.because it seems as if the people speak to us again, they could be in

:12:38. > :12:45.big trouble. I have seen that with lots of confidentiality clauses

:12:45. > :12:48.over the years. This one is unusual because it requires them to pay

:12:48. > :12:53.�10,000 if they breach the confidentiality. They are saying

:12:53. > :12:56.they will go to court and claimed �10,000 if they breached the

:12:56. > :13:02.contract. It seems to be a deterrent in terms of stopping

:13:02. > :13:06.people speaking to the media. Customers may not be allowed to

:13:06. > :13:11.speak, up bat at Rip Off Britain we do not like to keep good news to

:13:11. > :13:14.ourselves. These members will be delighted to be free of their

:13:14. > :13:19.contract even though it does mean writing of the cash they have spent

:13:19. > :13:23.on points. Diamond Resorts International told us they have

:13:23. > :13:24.thousands of satisfied members and their maintenance bills come with a

:13:24. > :13:30.their maintenance bills come with a full explanation of any significant

:13:30. > :13:35.change, which were often due to factors outside their control, for

:13:35. > :13:39.example, a sharp drop in the exchange rate in Europe. They

:13:39. > :13:45.stressed that membership is a long- term commitment and if members stop

:13:45. > :13:49.paying it impacts on everyone else. But the stress that they allow

:13:49. > :13:53.members to cancel under certain circumstances and they have decided

:13:53. > :13:55.that it is in the interests of the individuals we heard from to except

:13:55. > :14:01.the cancellation of their the cancellation of their

:14:01. > :14:06.membership. For these customers at least, Diamond Resorts

:14:06. > :14:10.International's rigid no escape policy is no more. It goes to show

:14:10. > :14:15.that persistence pays off and we're very happy if we have helped along

:14:15. > :14:21.the way. Henry is an independent property

:14:21. > :14:25.expert. He has some advice on how to invest in property safely.

:14:25. > :14:30.Although the market is much tougher as a result of the recent financial

:14:30. > :14:36.crisis, there are opportunities out there for the clever financial

:14:36. > :14:39.investor. One of the problem with Property Investment Clubs is they

:14:40. > :14:44.provide a one stop shop for property, where they provide a

:14:44. > :14:49.source of properties to buy, the finance to date and a management

:14:49. > :14:55.service for when you have purchased it. These three all in house should

:14:55. > :14:59.ring alarm bells in many potential investors' mind. The current

:14:59. > :15:04.financial climate makes it much harder to find the funds and borrow

:15:04. > :15:08.the money in the first place to buy a property to lack, but it also

:15:08. > :15:18.throws up massive opportunities with distressed bales and people in

:15:18. > :15:26.

:15:26. > :15:30.difficult circumstances. -- a Big companies don't always make

:15:30. > :15:35.things easy to understand. It can be confusing trying to work out why

:15:35. > :15:41.you haven't ended up with what you expected. If you feel bogged down,

:15:41. > :15:51.we have put together a booklet of advice. You can find a link to the

:15:51. > :15:54.free guide on our website. Or, to receive a copy in the post, send an

:15:54. > :15:58.envelope to the address we will give you at the end of the

:15:58. > :16:02.programme. The Here's another investment that

:16:02. > :16:09.can go horribly wrong and has already caught out thousands of

:16:09. > :16:13.people. Between them they have lost an estimated total of �200 million.

:16:14. > :16:18.After buying plots of land that turned out to be worthless. This

:16:18. > :16:22.has prompted the Land Registry to warn the public of the risks of

:16:22. > :16:27.buying land as part of a Land Banking scheme. Were you are sold a

:16:27. > :16:32.plot of land which is claimed to have a good investment value

:16:32. > :16:35.because it is ripe for development. All too often it turns out there is

:16:35. > :16:39.a fat chance of that tournament ever happening which you will only

:16:39. > :16:44.discover when you have handed over the cash.

:16:45. > :16:49.Adrian Jones from wigan macro ran a successful chemical company for 24

:16:49. > :16:56.years. When he retired he was hoping to enjoy the rewards of that.

:16:56. > :17:01.My plan for the future was really to enjoy my retirement. And,

:17:01. > :17:04.hopefully, to leave our children some inheritance. Age and have some

:17:04. > :17:10.money to invest so when he got a brochure from a company promising

:17:10. > :17:16.big returns, he was interested. tight and see your returns

:17:16. > :17:20.maximised. It looked simple enough, Land Banking UK would make all the

:17:20. > :17:25.arrangements for you to buy a plot of land. They would negotiate

:17:25. > :17:31.planning permission for housing, and your land increases in value

:17:31. > :17:35.without you having to do anything. The sales pitch was, once planning

:17:35. > :17:41.permission had been gained, they would sell the land to a developer.

:17:41. > :17:46.They expected a tenfold increase in the value of our investment.

:17:46. > :17:52.Decided he could expect big money in the future, Adrian bought three

:17:52. > :17:59.plots, investing �35,000. Once planning permission had been gained,

:17:59. > :18:04.they would be sold to a developer, and we would receive about 60% of

:18:04. > :18:09.any but left in value of the land, the other amount would go to the

:18:09. > :18:15.company which was the incentive to make it work. Their promise was to

:18:15. > :18:20.try, try again, until they obtained planning permission. So hopefully,

:18:20. > :18:25.within a short number of years, the investment would come to fruition.

:18:25. > :18:31.Land Banking UK is one of many companies selling land this way,

:18:31. > :18:35.promising rich rewards further down the line when the site is developed.

:18:35. > :18:38.But the Insolvency Service to investigate companies operating

:18:38. > :18:43.against the public interest has seen too often people fall foul of

:18:43. > :18:51.them. They are called called by persistent sales people who say

:18:51. > :19:00.they have plots of land for sale without planning permission -- cold

:19:00. > :19:06.called. People are duped into paying inflated prices. That is

:19:06. > :19:11.what happened to a gin. We had bought a worthless piece of land.

:19:11. > :19:16.The company never applied for planning permission. In 2007 we

:19:16. > :19:21.found the company had gone into interim administration. In April

:19:21. > :19:26.2008, we found out from the liquidator that the company had in

:19:26. > :19:34.fact been wound up. Far from making a profit, age and had nothing to

:19:34. > :19:39.show for his �35,000. One might think a tenfold increase was too

:19:39. > :19:44.good to be true. It was. As a result, I suppose you could say I

:19:44. > :19:49.was a little gullible, more than a little gullible. The thing people

:19:49. > :19:54.should be asking themselves is why should somebody call you out of the

:19:54. > :19:57.blue with a fantastic scheme to sell a piece of agricultural land,

:19:57. > :20:03.because if the scheme was that fantastic, why are they offering it

:20:03. > :20:11.to you? Chris from Worcester also took up one of these fantastic

:20:11. > :20:16.looking schemes from land bank UK - - Land Banking UK. We purchased two

:20:16. > :20:22.plots of land and we were told the return would be up to seven times

:20:22. > :20:27.out investment, we were looking at �140,000 return on our investment.

:20:27. > :20:32.Chris was horrified to discover Land Banking UK had gone into

:20:32. > :20:37.administration. So there would be no planning permission and no

:20:37. > :20:42.return on his investment. We were very distressed we have invested

:20:42. > :20:46.our money and we had been cheated by Land Banking UK. We have found

:20:46. > :20:52.that they hadn't actually applied for planning permission, they had

:20:52. > :21:00.effectively made off with our money. The Financial Services Authority

:21:00. > :21:05.calls Land Banking UK -- this kind of scheme paid �200 billion the

:21:05. > :21:11.year problem. I feel there are not enough

:21:11. > :21:19.safeguards to protect the consumer from people who are out to actually

:21:19. > :21:26.extorts money from you. A �35,000 investment is never an easy matter

:21:26. > :21:33.to write-off. And, that is why we continue to try to fight, and get

:21:33. > :21:39.some satisfaction for investors, and that is why we will continue to

:21:39. > :21:43.fight until it is resolved. We won't give up on this.

:21:43. > :21:49.It is cases like this that have prompted the Land Registry to

:21:49. > :21:54.reissue its guide on these schemes, with detailed advice on anyone --

:21:54. > :22:00.for anyone interested in these kinds of schemes. You can find a

:22:00. > :22:04.link to this on our website. Not all of these schemes are rip-offs

:22:04. > :22:09.but we only hear about the ones that are. If you think this case

:22:10. > :22:16.was bad, wait until you hear the one we have later on.

:22:16. > :22:23.Still to come full on -- on the programme, sales which haven't

:22:23. > :22:27.lived up to the height. It is a definite scam. Here in Manchester,

:22:27. > :22:35.hundreds of people have been along to our pop art shop and there are

:22:35. > :22:40.plenty more people waiting to tell us their stories. Let us go inside.

:22:40. > :22:42.When Foroozan decided to invest in a timeshare property, she didn't

:22:42. > :22:49.realise her holiday home would be so problematic.

:22:49. > :22:58.They invited me to buy a timeshare from a company. They started to

:22:58. > :23:07.have a timeshare as a temporary, then I had it as a prominent, now

:23:07. > :23:11.until 2067. With high maintenance charges? Yes. I must say, yours is

:23:11. > :23:21.not the first story I have heard. There have been some absolutely

:23:21. > :23:22.

:23:22. > :23:27.awful examples of this selling of timeshares, thousands of people are

:23:27. > :23:33.ruined -- it are in the position of being obliged to pay thousands of

:23:33. > :23:38.pounds for a property which will continue until 2067. That seems

:23:38. > :23:44.absurd. What makes it absurd is it is legal. You side something to

:23:44. > :23:50.make it legal for them to do it. It must be you angry. We're hoping the

:23:50. > :23:53.UK or Europe will legislate to say, people can absolve themselves of

:23:53. > :23:59.their time share liabilities. At the moment, that hasn't come

:23:59. > :24:04.through. I am so sorry, there's nothing in law I can see that gives

:24:04. > :24:09.you protection at the moment. Sadly, we couldn't help Foroozan.

:24:09. > :24:15.Let us hope by hearing her story you will not be caught out.

:24:15. > :24:18.We have had another incredibly busy day here in Manchester. It has been

:24:18. > :24:22.wonderful having the BBC Learning team with us, dispensing a lot of

:24:22. > :24:27.advice to people and I got some myself.

:24:27. > :24:31.We are asking and encouraging people to do is to maximise your

:24:31. > :24:35.maths, then you will not be ripped off. It doesn't matter if you get

:24:35. > :24:38.it wrong, just try. I feel I am setting myself up for

:24:38. > :24:46.failure but I am prepared to give myself a go.

:24:46. > :24:54.What have we got here? I am going to views these two ropes. Try to

:24:54. > :24:59.release yourself without taking the rope off. Can we go around the

:24:59. > :25:02.corner? That is a cheeky. The idea it is to use maps to work out the

:25:02. > :25:07.number of moves to get yourself free.

:25:07. > :25:14.We are getting along like a house on fire. Proving to be rubbish at

:25:14. > :25:18.this task. Give us a week or two! The way things are going, even a

:25:18. > :25:24.week might be optimistic. Thankfully, we have an expert on

:25:24. > :25:30.hand to help us escape. Underneath... Through here. There

:25:30. > :25:35.you go. Maths is fun, something we can all

:25:35. > :25:42.do. Even if we are not very good, have a go. There are lots more

:25:42. > :25:46.games online, lots to practise. In the real world, you are armed with

:25:46. > :25:50.good maths skills so you won't be ripped off.

:25:50. > :25:54.With pension payout rates crashing and the cost of living soaring, it

:25:54. > :25:59.is no surprise that official figures show a rise in the number

:25:59. > :26:04.of newly retired pensioners going back to work. It seems instead of

:26:04. > :26:08.enjoying the so-called golden years, an increasing number of over 65

:26:08. > :26:14.feel forced to return to work. Some you have tried to plan ahead by

:26:14. > :26:17.investing your money to top up your pension. When Ian Langley did that,

:26:17. > :26:22.his investments didn't go at all to plan.

:26:22. > :26:26.Ian Langley is a company director. In his spare time, his collection

:26:26. > :26:31.of vintage fire engines provides a much needed to escape from his

:26:31. > :26:37.working life. When he is not tinkering with his engines, he

:26:37. > :26:41.prides himself on preparing for his teacher. In 2009, the funds in his

:26:41. > :26:46.private pension scheme were cut to half and he looked at other ways to

:26:46. > :26:50.bolster his finances. The one thing I was aware of was property

:26:50. > :26:53.maintained or increased its value over the years which is why I was

:26:54. > :26:57.looking for an alternative form of investment which wasn't too risky

:26:57. > :27:02.but which would produce a better yield than my pension funding

:27:02. > :27:08.arrangements. After signing up to way trade newsletter, he was e-

:27:08. > :27:12.mailed by a company called Property Mentor. They offered prospective

:27:12. > :27:16.investors the chance to climb the property ladder and managed a

:27:16. > :27:20.rental portfolio through a series of courses and tuition. I could

:27:20. > :27:24.invest in property, it would produce meat a net cashflow each

:27:24. > :27:27.month which I could use to top up my pension. From what he read,

:27:27. > :27:31.Property Mentor or were offering the chance to make money by

:27:31. > :27:35.investing in property. Most temptingly, the company seemed to

:27:35. > :27:40.be saying he could do this without using any of his own money for a

:27:40. > :27:45.deposit. I went to a taster session and it sounded plausible. The

:27:45. > :27:49.workshop was run by the guy who roams the company. In the lead by

:27:49. > :27:59.signing up he would be offered a profit-making investment property

:27:59. > :28:03.within 12 months. He liked what he heard and so he paid �997 and

:28:03. > :28:07.signed a credit agreement for �7,200 to pay for the cost of the

:28:07. > :28:12.seminar, and the information he thought he would be getting from

:28:12. > :28:19.them. As I drove away from the course on that Sunday, I felt I had

:28:19. > :28:23.now done what was necessary to secure financial security for by

:28:24. > :28:30.family. In order to secure that future, he agreed to pay the fees

:28:30. > :28:39.in monthly instalments for six years, as well as an additional

:28:39. > :28:42.�1,420 for demand reports giving details of properties. I was by

:28:42. > :28:46.then convinced the system made sense. Other people had stood up

:28:46. > :28:52.and showed all of us on the course how it worked for them. That's why

:28:52. > :28:55.I was prepared to pay extra. With all payments in place, Ian waited

:28:55. > :29:02.for Property Mentor to supply him with details of properties in his

:29:02. > :29:07.chosen area. Ian didn't have long to wait. But, what he received fell

:29:07. > :29:10.way short of his expectations. properties they were sending me

:29:11. > :29:14.were several hundred miles away from where I live or work,

:29:14. > :29:22.difficult to manage those properties. They all require a

:29:22. > :29:27.deposit. The cheapest was a �16,000. Typically there were �40,000

:29:27. > :29:36.touching macro they were �40,000. Ian was beginning to get married

:29:36. > :29:42.and he was on the anyone. -- get worried and he wasn't the only one.

:29:42. > :29:47.Other people on the course were getting despondent. Vienna was

:29:47. > :29:57.convinced for if you �1,000 initial outlay, he would get a profit-

:29:57. > :30:03.

:30:03. > :30:07.making property. Instead he has I have spent a lot of money, and I

:30:07. > :30:13.have ended up with nothing apart from more expense. I am left

:30:13. > :30:19.thinking I have wasted something like 18 months, and I have not yet

:30:19. > :30:23.achieved my ambitions for financial security. To date, Ian has paid

:30:23. > :30:27.property meant for more than �4,000 and is continuing to pay the

:30:27. > :30:35.monthly fee he signed up to because he did not want to damage his

:30:35. > :30:39.credit rating. Because I am involved in financial services, I

:30:40. > :30:45.cannot do this. We contacted the company and asked them to comment

:30:45. > :30:50.on the case. They were so convinced that the money Ian has spent with

:30:50. > :30:57.them has been money well spent that they agreed to give us an interview.

:30:57. > :31:02.We ask them to explain services that they provide. We teach our

:31:02. > :31:07.delegate seven financial tools. Any one of those financial tools enable

:31:07. > :31:13.you to buy property without spending your own money. So in a

:31:13. > :31:18.sense you're spending money -- you are spending what we call other

:31:18. > :31:24.people's money on property, a bank's money, alone, that type of

:31:24. > :31:28.thing. So if he had put our techniques to the properties, he

:31:28. > :31:35.would have been able to buy them without tying up his own personal

:31:35. > :31:40.capital. But Ian is not convinced and he wants his money back. We'd

:31:40. > :31:47.be company be able to give him a refund? We have given him a

:31:47. > :31:52.guarantee which we will stand by. Any business, any product out there,

:31:52. > :31:58.if it is delivered, even with a guarantee, why would a customer be

:31:58. > :32:03.able to get their money back? We have delivered everything in our

:32:03. > :32:08.contract with Mr Langley. I think we have gone way beyond it to try

:32:08. > :32:14.and help and assist him. If our delegates put the effort into the

:32:14. > :32:19.system, it works. If they put the effort into asking for their money

:32:19. > :32:23.back, I would question of where their effort is being paid. There

:32:23. > :32:28.is no suggestion that Property Mentor have broken any laws in

:32:28. > :32:33.their dealings with the in. Ian admits he was seduced by the sales

:32:33. > :32:37.patter and did not fully questioned the scheme before signing up. For

:32:37. > :32:42.him, the whole experience has been an expensive washout which she

:32:42. > :32:50.hopes others will learn from. feel like I have been suckered and

:32:50. > :32:54.that hurts. Earlier we heard about Adrian Jones from Wigan a los

:32:54. > :32:59.�35,000 to unscrupulous land developers. It is a staggering

:32:59. > :33:04.amount of money to lose, but unfortunately not the highest

:33:04. > :33:09.amount that we have heard about in this situation. Sports-mad Eric

:33:09. > :33:13.Wright has worked since he was 14 years old. When he retired he

:33:13. > :33:19.wanted to invest some of the money he had turned to make sure his

:33:19. > :33:23.future was financially secure. was having a good back-up as I got

:33:23. > :33:28.older, and not knowing naturally how your health is going to be. I

:33:28. > :33:36.live on my own since my wife passed away so protecting my future was

:33:36. > :33:40.important. In January 2010, Eric received a cold call from a company

:33:40. > :33:46.called Property Partnership, based in Bishopsgate in London and not to

:33:46. > :33:52.be confused with other companies with similar names. They were

:33:52. > :33:58.offering him an opportunity to buy plots of land which apparently had

:33:58. > :34:03.massive investment potential. They seemed to be kosher Randy promises

:34:04. > :34:11.were reassuring. They made it sound so good that I could not refuse.

:34:12. > :34:15.Eric bought a plot in Peckham for �5,000. He then paid another 25,000

:34:15. > :34:19.for one in King's Lynn, which she was promised would be sold to

:34:19. > :34:26.housing developer by Christmas making him a large hassle-free

:34:26. > :34:32.profit. They said Des was going to be a good return, one of the best

:34:32. > :34:36.sites they had ever had. -- are they said this was going to be. I

:34:36. > :34:42.wanted to increase the money that I had and I thought this would be

:34:42. > :34:48.ideal. Once he had laid out the initial �30,000, the company kept

:34:48. > :34:52.asking for more and more money. Faced with persuasive sales people

:34:52. > :34:58.and what seemed like legitimate business, Eric felt he had no

:34:58. > :35:05.choice but to pay, and soon found he had forked out an initial -- an

:35:05. > :35:10.extra �42,000 on top of his initial investment. They have a way of more

:35:10. > :35:13.less pressurising you and making you see their way. They say that if

:35:13. > :35:19.you do not act urgently you could lose all the previous money you

:35:20. > :35:27.have invested. They say it is nearly at an end, the sale will be

:35:27. > :35:31.going ahead shortly. By the time he handed over another �6,000, Eric

:35:31. > :35:35.was getting suspicious. The paper work he was being sent did not

:35:35. > :35:42.stack up and all his queries seem to be answered with more demands

:35:42. > :35:47.for money. The final straw came when they said that in order to get

:35:47. > :35:54.the payout that seat -- that they insisted was still coming, he would

:35:54. > :36:01.have to shell out more cash. thought this was definitely a scam.

:36:01. > :36:07.I said no, I will not send any more money, there is something wrong.

:36:07. > :36:12.�78,000 down, Eric discovered that despite what he had been told, the

:36:12. > :36:17.land he had purchased had no planning permission. As Larry

:36:17. > :36:22.Russen, a local chartered surveyor in King's Lynn explains, this makes

:36:22. > :36:29.the land virtually worthless. lander derricks owns is probably

:36:29. > :36:35.worth only around �500 because it does not have planning permission.

:36:35. > :36:39.-- At the land that any cones. The council is considering whether the

:36:39. > :36:45.area should be given residential planning permission, but that is

:36:45. > :36:50.not guaranteed. When he realised this, and it asked the Property

:36:50. > :36:57.Partnership for his money back. said he was not happy and he wanted

:36:57. > :37:03.his money returned. I have not had any reply for them -- from them.

:37:03. > :37:07.This gets worse. Rip Off Britain did some investigating and

:37:07. > :37:12.discovered that ownership of the property in King's Lane was never

:37:12. > :37:17.even transferred to Eric. It seems that he has been sold other pieces

:37:17. > :37:23.of land around the country. He cannot complain to Property

:37:23. > :37:29.Partnership because they have gone into liquidation. In the meantime,

:37:29. > :37:34.78-year-old Eric has lost his life savings. It is all right looking

:37:34. > :37:38.back on these things, saying, I would never do that again, and I

:37:38. > :37:46.would never do it now, but I was gullible to taking everything they

:37:46. > :37:49.told me. We did try to cop it -- we did try to contact the Property

:37:49. > :37:55.Partnership, the company that took such massive sums of money from

:37:55. > :38:00.Eric Wright. We sent them a letter, but it came back marked, Return to

:38:00. > :38:07.sender. We have tried other avenues to get in touch with them, but to

:38:07. > :38:13.all intents and purposes, it seems that they, like the money, have

:38:13. > :38:17.simply disappeared. But we will keep trying.

:38:17. > :38:23.According to the FSA, landbank schemes are �200 million a year

:38:23. > :38:26.headache for them. According to them the perpetrators are using

:38:26. > :38:33.ever more aggressive than criminal methods so no wonder, as we have

:38:33. > :38:38.seen today, that so many of our viewers have been conned by these

:38:38. > :38:42.schemes. But what is the FSA being to combat this? I have come to

:38:42. > :38:47.their headquarters in Kenilworth to find out.

:38:47. > :38:52.Our postbag is full of letters from people have been taken in by the

:38:52. > :39:02.so-called land bank schemes. How seriously do you rate the problems

:39:02. > :39:02.

:39:02. > :39:07.here at the FSA? This is one of our top priority problems. Land Banking

:39:07. > :39:12.is in one of our top three problems. We are dedicating a lot of

:39:12. > :39:18.resources to this. Are there any land bank schemes that people

:39:18. > :39:27.should even consider? Have I seen a Land Banking scheme that has made

:39:27. > :39:31.money foreign investor? No, I have not. Is it always Ali -- an illegal

:39:31. > :39:38.activity to sell land that one day might get planning permission? No.

:39:38. > :39:45.But we need to think whether this is a realistic prospect. Is it

:39:45. > :39:48.likely that a large house builder will buy land from you and 99 other

:39:48. > :39:58.people who are all owned land and plots in a field or are they more

:39:58. > :39:58.

:39:58. > :40:03.likely to deal with one person, farmer or landowner? These

:40:03. > :40:09.companies are feeding off stories in the media about to show a --

:40:09. > :40:13.about a shortage of housing in the UK. They make themselves sound like

:40:13. > :40:19.the real deal, like proper investment advisers. They do not

:40:19. > :40:26.come across as conmen. What chances there of people who have been

:40:26. > :40:28.fleeced getting their money back? It is very unlikely, I am afraid.

:40:28. > :40:32.People lose shocking amounts of People lose shocking amounts of

:40:32. > :40:36.money to this and other types of scams that we deal with. Why are

:40:36. > :40:43.you not shutting them all down, you not shutting them all down,

:40:43. > :40:53.where are the teeth of the FSA in tackling this problem? The FSA does

:40:53. > :40:55.

:40:55. > :40:59.not allow it asked to close schemes down. If we can prove that this is

:40:59. > :41:03.a collective investment scheme, we can go to court and we have done

:41:03. > :41:08.several times and closed down �50 million worth of Land Banking

:41:08. > :41:15.schemes. Where we cannot prove it is a collective investment scheme,

:41:15. > :41:18.we have not got the powers to do that. In that case, we speak to the

:41:18. > :41:25.police and the Insolvency Service because they have been good at

:41:25. > :41:29.closing down 70 of these schemes. Thank you very much.

:41:29. > :41:34.He that Rip Off Britain we have always ready to investigate more if

:41:34. > :41:38.your stories. Confused over their bills, trying to wade through

:41:38. > :41:44.never-ending small print at least you totally confused? I might have

:41:44. > :41:48.been stupid for not reading it. could kick myself, I really could.

:41:48. > :41:52.You may have a cautionary tale of your own and would be happy to

:41:52. > :41:59.share the mistakes you have made with fast so that others do not do

:41:59. > :42:09.the same. No one knows about this, so I would like to get this out.

:42:09. > :42:17.

:42:17. > :42:22.You can write to us at the address The Rip Off Britain team is ready

:42:22. > :42:25.and waiting to investigate your stories. There is so much

:42:25. > :42:31.uncertainty over pensions that planning for your future has become

:42:31. > :42:36.more important than ever, but it does not come without its risks.

:42:36. > :42:42.Choosing where to invest safely can be a complicated business always

:42:42. > :42:46.seek independent advice before you hand over any money. As we always

:42:46. > :42:52.says he run the programme, if it sounds too good to be true, that is

:42:52. > :42:55.probably because it is. That is all for today, we hope you will join us