Episode 20

Download Subtitles

Transcript

0:00:02 > 0:00:06We ask you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped off.

0:00:06 > 0:00:09I think this is very, very, very wrong, for what they've done.

0:00:09 > 0:00:13The bank piles charges upon charges, upon charges, upon charges...

0:00:13 > 0:00:15Legally it was right, morally...

0:00:15 > 0:00:18that's where the question and doubt comes in my view.

0:00:18 > 0:00:21And you contacted us in your thousands,

0:00:21 > 0:00:24by post, e-mail,

0:00:24 > 0:00:26even stopping us in the streets.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28And the message couldn't be clearer...

0:00:28 > 0:00:31You don't always get a straight answer. They try and fob you off.

0:00:31 > 0:00:32Not happy at all.

0:00:32 > 0:00:34There's always that very small print with a clause

0:00:34 > 0:00:36you didn't realise.

0:00:36 > 0:00:38We're being ripped off big-time.

0:00:38 > 0:00:40'Whether it's a deliberate rip-off,

0:00:40 > 0:00:43'a simple mistake, or a catch in the small print,

0:00:43 > 0:00:46'we'll find out why you're out of pocket, and indeed,

0:00:46 > 0:00:48'what you can do about it.'

0:00:48 > 0:00:51Keep asking the questions, keep... go to the top if you have to.

0:00:51 > 0:00:55We do get results, I mean, that's the interesting thing.

0:00:55 > 0:00:57'Your stories, your money.

0:00:57 > 0:00:58'This is Rip-Off Britain.'

0:01:00 > 0:01:02Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain,

0:01:02 > 0:01:04the series in which we

0:01:04 > 0:01:06work tirelessly to assist you,

0:01:06 > 0:01:09the consumer, to get a fair deal

0:01:09 > 0:01:12and we hope we're able to help you avoid being ripped-off, don't we?

0:01:12 > 0:01:16Absolutely! You've been sending letters and e-mails asking for help,

0:01:16 > 0:01:19and we've also been out and about to hear from you,

0:01:19 > 0:01:20face-to-face.

0:01:20 > 0:01:23You know, one topic that comes up time and time again,

0:01:23 > 0:01:27is when you feel that paperwork, you know, contracts, bills and so on,

0:01:27 > 0:01:31are not fully explained, leaving you feeling most confused.

0:01:31 > 0:01:35Now, in turn, this can often lead you into making bad decisions,

0:01:35 > 0:01:38and above all, costing you money.

0:01:38 > 0:01:40Also coming up on today's show,

0:01:40 > 0:01:44this man spent nearly £6000 on hearing aids

0:01:44 > 0:01:48that he says he can barely use.

0:01:48 > 0:01:51Could he have got a better one free?

0:01:51 > 0:01:54I thought, tops, it would be 2,000,

0:01:54 > 0:01:57instead of which it was nearly six!

0:01:57 > 0:02:01And more from the Rip-Off Britain pop-up shop.

0:02:01 > 0:02:05Now, making sure that you get a good deal on every purchase you make,

0:02:05 > 0:02:06is pretty tricky.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09You may have been tempted by what seemed, at the time,

0:02:09 > 0:02:10like a really good offer,

0:02:10 > 0:02:13or even persuaded by a convincing sales pitch,

0:02:13 > 0:02:16but either way, it's sometimes not until much later,

0:02:16 > 0:02:19that you find out the deal you ended up with,

0:02:19 > 0:02:22is nowhere near as good as you first thought.

0:02:22 > 0:02:25Which is exactly what happened to our next viewer.

0:02:28 > 0:02:31A peaceful retirement on the Kent coast.

0:02:31 > 0:02:33That's what Sally Croft had in mind,

0:02:33 > 0:02:36when along with her husband Neil,

0:02:36 > 0:02:38she moved here to the Isle of Sheppey.

0:02:40 > 0:02:43We bought into the site in 2004.

0:02:43 > 0:02:46We saw an advert in the paper which looked very appealing.

0:02:46 > 0:02:50Retirement homes etc, new buildings going to be built,

0:02:50 > 0:02:53it was to your specifications,

0:02:53 > 0:02:56two-bedroom, three-bedroom, four-bedroom.

0:02:56 > 0:02:58It all sounded absolutely wonderful.

0:02:58 > 0:03:03So wonderful that the Crofts spent £100,000

0:03:03 > 0:03:05on this four-bedroom bungalow,

0:03:05 > 0:03:09part of the Saddlebrook Park complex in Leysdown-On-Sea.

0:03:09 > 0:03:11We was assured that we didn't need a solicitor

0:03:11 > 0:03:14to buy on here,

0:03:14 > 0:03:17the site would do everything for us, everything, so we didn't

0:03:17 > 0:03:19need the expense of a solicitor,

0:03:19 > 0:03:22because it was private ground and they was building all these

0:03:22 > 0:03:26residential homes, they was going to do everything for us.

0:03:26 > 0:03:28But not taking advice

0:03:28 > 0:03:30is a decision they now regret,

0:03:30 > 0:03:34because things weren't as straightforward as first seemed.

0:03:34 > 0:03:37It turned out they'd bought a home they weren't allowed

0:03:37 > 0:03:40to live in, all year round.

0:03:40 > 0:03:44That's because, according to local planning regulations,

0:03:44 > 0:03:48Saddlebrook Park is classified as non-residential.

0:03:48 > 0:03:50It's regarded as holiday accommodation,

0:03:50 > 0:03:52so the properties can only be occupied

0:03:52 > 0:03:55for eight months of the year.

0:03:55 > 0:03:57But the Crofts bought their bungalow

0:03:57 > 0:03:59on the understanding that plans

0:03:59 > 0:04:02to develop the park, would change all that.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04And they say the site's previous owners

0:04:04 > 0:04:08assured them that everything was being sorted with the council.

0:04:08 > 0:04:13They sold us a residential retirement home.

0:04:13 > 0:04:17All the plans had been put in to the council for extended,

0:04:17 > 0:04:20because originally it was a holiday park, originally...

0:04:20 > 0:04:23erm...all the plans had gone in for residential,

0:04:23 > 0:04:27so we could live in here for 12 months of the year.

0:04:27 > 0:04:30But according to Swale Borough Council,

0:04:30 > 0:04:32no such plans were ever submitted,

0:04:32 > 0:04:35so every year, as the end of October approaches,

0:04:35 > 0:04:38the Crofts face the same fear.

0:04:38 > 0:04:43The four months during the course of the winter is a very worrying time

0:04:43 > 0:04:46and we're always faced with the fact we could pull into the gates

0:04:46 > 0:04:49one day and they'd be closed and we'd not be able to get in.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52We so look forward to 1 March

0:04:52 > 0:04:55when we're officially legal again.

0:04:55 > 0:04:59Sally and Neil have lived with this crippling uncertainty

0:04:59 > 0:05:03for six years, and for some of their neighbours, it's been even longer.

0:05:03 > 0:05:06I paid 10,000 extra to be beside a lake.

0:05:06 > 0:05:08Sandra Anderson moved in eight years ago,

0:05:08 > 0:05:11days before the winter started,

0:05:11 > 0:05:13although at the time,

0:05:13 > 0:05:16she had no idea that winter was even an issue.

0:05:16 > 0:05:20We came down here in October 27, 2003,

0:05:20 > 0:05:25and I was not given any form of paperwork

0:05:25 > 0:05:29until July of 2004.

0:05:29 > 0:05:33My understanding of the whole thing was that we were sold

0:05:33 > 0:05:34a residential park,

0:05:34 > 0:05:38you know, that was for the 12 months, this was our home.

0:05:38 > 0:05:42Sandra is keen to sell up and move on,

0:05:42 > 0:05:45but even if she could find a buyer,

0:05:45 > 0:05:47she'd be unlikely to get anything like

0:05:47 > 0:05:50the £120,000 she originally paid.

0:05:50 > 0:05:53I would say, at the moment,

0:05:55 > 0:05:57I might struggle

0:05:57 > 0:06:00at getting 60,

0:06:00 > 0:06:01if that.

0:06:01 > 0:06:05We've done a lot in here, because this is our home,

0:06:05 > 0:06:08and this is where we live.

0:06:08 > 0:06:10We love our home

0:06:10 > 0:06:13and we love this little bit round it,

0:06:13 > 0:06:15but we actually hate the park,

0:06:15 > 0:06:17and we haven't got a lot of feelings

0:06:17 > 0:06:19for the people who did it to us, either.

0:06:19 > 0:06:24Someone who's all too aware of the problems these residents face,

0:06:24 > 0:06:27is local MP Gordon Henderson.

0:06:27 > 0:06:29There are a number of people

0:06:29 > 0:06:33who have bought holiday homes

0:06:33 > 0:06:37on Sheppey, who did so, believing they were entitled

0:06:37 > 0:06:39to all year round occupation,

0:06:39 > 0:06:43only to discover at a later date,

0:06:43 > 0:06:46actually they had to get out after eight months.

0:06:46 > 0:06:49My very strong advice is, first of all,

0:06:49 > 0:06:51before parting with a penny of their money,

0:06:51 > 0:06:54they should take legal advice and make sure they see

0:06:54 > 0:06:58a copy of the contract before they actually go out

0:06:58 > 0:06:59and buy anything.

0:06:59 > 0:07:02So why were these homes sold to people

0:07:02 > 0:07:05who wanted to live there all year round?

0:07:05 > 0:07:09We asked Saddlebrook Park's former owners Warden Bay Leisure,

0:07:09 > 0:07:13who ran the site when the Crofts and Sandra bought properties.

0:07:13 > 0:07:15They didn't want to comment,

0:07:15 > 0:07:19but claimed that everyone saw leases before they moved in,

0:07:19 > 0:07:21which of course,

0:07:21 > 0:07:23is not what the residents have told us.

0:07:23 > 0:07:27Saddlebrook Park has since been taken over by a different company,

0:07:27 > 0:07:31who told us that they'd like residents to be able to

0:07:31 > 0:07:35live there full-time, but this would require a special licence.

0:07:35 > 0:07:39They've told us they are discussing it with the Council.

0:07:39 > 0:07:41But, for now,

0:07:41 > 0:07:45many residents are well and truly stuck,

0:07:45 > 0:07:48desperate to leave, but unable to afford a huge

0:07:48 > 0:07:52drop in the price of their properties if they were to sell now.

0:07:52 > 0:07:55Six of us has have put in

0:07:55 > 0:07:59for residency with the council ourselves, so we're

0:07:59 > 0:08:02just keeping our fingers crossed that something will come of that.

0:08:02 > 0:08:05So hopefully, at the end of the day,

0:08:05 > 0:08:08we will finally get residency

0:08:08 > 0:08:11that we can sleep at night, in our beds, properly,

0:08:11 > 0:08:13through the winter.

0:08:15 > 0:08:18Big companies don't always make things easy to understand

0:08:18 > 0:08:20and it can be confusing trying

0:08:20 > 0:08:24to work out why you haven't ended up with what you expected.

0:08:24 > 0:08:26So if you feel bogged down

0:08:26 > 0:08:29and don't know exactly what to do, we have put together a booklet

0:08:29 > 0:08:33of tips and advice you can find the link to the free guide

0:08:33 > 0:08:37on our web-site: bbc.co.uk/rip off Britain.

0:08:38 > 0:08:41Or if you want to receive a copy in the post

0:08:41 > 0:08:43send an A5 self-addressed envelope

0:08:43 > 0:08:46to the address we give you right at the end of the programme.

0:08:49 > 0:08:53Next: No one wants to hand over hard-earned cash

0:08:53 > 0:08:56for something you can actually get for free.

0:08:56 > 0:08:58But that is exactly what's been happening

0:08:58 > 0:09:00with the sale of hearing aids,

0:09:00 > 0:09:02according to an investigation by Which? magazine

0:09:02 > 0:09:05and the Royal National Institute for the Deaf,

0:09:05 > 0:09:07which is the UK's largest charity

0:09:07 > 0:09:09for people with hearing loss and deafness.

0:09:09 > 0:09:13Which? revealed that shops can often charge massive amounts

0:09:13 > 0:09:15for products that are actually

0:09:15 > 0:09:17available free on the NHS

0:09:17 > 0:09:21and that report backs up what happened to Norman Squire.

0:09:21 > 0:09:23He contacted us at Rip Off Britain

0:09:23 > 0:09:29after being sold a hearing aid that ended up costing nearly £6,000.

0:09:31 > 0:09:36Norman Squire's hearing had served him pretty well until 2010,

0:09:36 > 0:09:41when, aged 92, he noticed that he was starting to struggle a little.

0:09:41 > 0:09:43I keep asking people to repeat things.

0:09:43 > 0:09:47Somebody's got something to tell you and there's a punchline

0:09:47 > 0:09:51and you miss that, so you say, "Beg your pardon?"

0:09:51 > 0:09:55So they keep telling me I need a hearing aid.

0:09:55 > 0:09:59Norman's friend, Chris, was surprised his hearing was failing.

0:10:00 > 0:10:05I've never had trouble having a conversation with him.

0:10:05 > 0:10:06I think I've got the advantage

0:10:06 > 0:10:10of having worked with the deaf, that I'm used to speaking clearly,

0:10:10 > 0:10:13which is a benefit to Norman.

0:10:13 > 0:10:19Though his problems seemed slight, Norman was pleased when one day a leaflet came through his door

0:10:19 > 0:10:22from a chain of shops selling hearing aids, called Hidden Hearing.

0:10:22 > 0:10:28They had a local branch, so he popped along to see what they would advise.

0:10:28 > 0:10:32They offered me a hearing aid to try and put in me ear

0:10:32 > 0:10:34and it was like a big marble.

0:10:34 > 0:10:37So he said, "All right, try this one."

0:10:37 > 0:10:39And he fits this one in.

0:10:39 > 0:10:44And there was nothing else, nothing else was forthcoming.

0:10:44 > 0:10:46So I don't know if they make anything else.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49Norman agreed to buy two gadgets there and then,

0:10:49 > 0:10:52but was surprised to find how much it cost.

0:10:54 > 0:10:57I did have a friend who said they'd paid £2,000.

0:10:57 > 0:11:00So I thought at tops it would be 2,000.

0:11:02 > 0:11:04Instead of which it was nearly six.

0:11:06 > 0:11:10Norman didn't have £6,000, but he was able to spread out the cost

0:11:10 > 0:11:12with a finance agreement

0:11:12 > 0:11:13that the shop arranged for him.

0:11:15 > 0:11:19The name Hidden Hearing does suggest the shop specialises

0:11:19 > 0:11:21in discreet devices.

0:11:22 > 0:11:26Norman says he wasn't particularly concerned with how his looked,

0:11:26 > 0:11:28so long as it worked.

0:11:28 > 0:11:33But the small size of the aids immediately became an issue for him.

0:11:36 > 0:11:38Well the main problem I suppose

0:11:38 > 0:11:42is that it's a fiddling little thing to mess about with.

0:11:43 > 0:11:48- I can get them in. - It takes a long time, doesn't it?

0:11:48 > 0:11:55I think the aid and its fittings are too small for Norman,

0:11:55 > 0:11:58because his hands are big and he has arthritis.

0:11:58 > 0:12:01After months of practice, Norman began to find it easier

0:12:01 > 0:12:04to put the hearing aid in,

0:12:04 > 0:12:09but as far as he was concerned, there was another problem.

0:12:09 > 0:12:12Well on two or three occasions that little piece on the end

0:12:12 > 0:12:14that goes right down into your ear,

0:12:14 > 0:12:20it just didn't come out with the res of it when you took them off.

0:12:21 > 0:12:25It was starting to look like Norman had spent £6,000 on hearing aids

0:12:25 > 0:12:27that were not necessarily the most

0:12:27 > 0:12:32suitable for him and it's money he may have needed to spend,

0:12:32 > 0:12:36because the NHS can give similar aids for free.

0:12:36 > 0:12:39Norman hadn't known that

0:12:39 > 0:12:42and Hidden Hearing certainly didn't tell him.

0:12:42 > 0:12:44So would he have been eligible?

0:12:44 > 0:12:46We have arranged for audiologist Crystal Rolfe to check.

0:12:49 > 0:12:53OK, Norman, I'm going to start off by having a look in your ears, OK?

0:12:54 > 0:12:56One of the most important things to check

0:12:56 > 0:12:59is whether that person will be able to fit it into their ear,

0:12:59 > 0:13:01what their dexterity of their hands is like,

0:13:01 > 0:13:03because hearing aids can be difficult to get in.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06What I'm just going to do is just press the button for me

0:13:06 > 0:13:08every time you hear a sound.

0:13:08 > 0:13:12Norman would certainly be eligible for an NHS hearing aid,

0:13:12 > 0:13:13based on the tests we did

0:13:13 > 0:13:17and talking to him about his dexterity in his fingers,

0:13:17 > 0:13:20I'd recommend the normal sized hearing aids behind his ear,

0:13:20 > 0:13:22maybe not one of the very small ones,

0:13:22 > 0:13:24just to make it easier for him to hold.

0:13:24 > 0:13:28And you can get a couple of different designs I've got here,

0:13:28 > 0:13:31on the NHS that would be suitable for you.

0:13:31 > 0:13:34Whenever Norman has called into the shop and mentioned his concerns,

0:13:34 > 0:13:39the staff have offered to fit his hearing aids for him.

0:13:39 > 0:13:42But if he had to do that every time he has trouble,

0:13:42 > 0:13:44it would mean a special trip into town.

0:13:46 > 0:13:50We contacted Hidden Hearing on Norman's behalf.

0:13:50 > 0:13:53They insist his assessment met all required standards

0:13:53 > 0:13:54and good practice

0:13:54 > 0:13:58and the hearing aids he bought were believed appropriate.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02They say it would have been up to Norman's doctor

0:14:02 > 0:14:04to explain he was eligible for an NHS one.

0:14:04 > 0:14:07But in any way case, the particular model he got

0:14:07 > 0:14:10would not have been available that way

0:14:10 > 0:14:14and they claim they don't have any record of any complaint.

0:14:14 > 0:14:18Although Norman insists he has raised it with staff at the shop.

0:14:19 > 0:14:22Last year, Which? carried out an investigation

0:14:22 > 0:14:25into a variety of shops selling hearing aids.

0:14:25 > 0:14:28A third of the total number of stores they visited

0:14:28 > 0:14:32were considered to have poor clinical assessments.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34And one of the other high street chains

0:14:34 > 0:14:36even risked breaking the law,

0:14:36 > 0:14:38by giving misleading information about the NHS

0:14:38 > 0:14:41in order to promote their own products.

0:14:43 > 0:14:46Meanwhile Hidden Hearing say they're happy to discuss

0:14:46 > 0:14:50changing Norman's hearing aids for a different model,

0:14:50 > 0:14:53which could stop him worrying his expensive purchase

0:14:53 > 0:14:57will end up in the back of a drawer gathering dust.

0:14:57 > 0:15:01You lose confidence in them and don't bother to put them on,

0:15:01 > 0:15:05which is a blatant waste of money, isn't it?

0:15:06 > 0:15:09So for Norman it's been an expensive lesson

0:15:09 > 0:15:12and he certainly feels let down by Hidden Hearing

0:15:12 > 0:15:17and wishes he had never purchased his hearing aid from them at all.

0:15:17 > 0:15:20Next time he's going to go straight to the NHS.

0:15:20 > 0:15:22Well Angela King from Action Hearing Loss,

0:15:22 > 0:15:25has some advice on buying a hearing aid.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27And other issues to look out for.

0:15:28 > 0:15:29If you're having difficulty hearing,

0:15:29 > 0:15:32there is one thing you can do straightaway without any fuss,

0:15:32 > 0:15:35and that is take the Action On Hearing Loss hearing check

0:15:35 > 0:15:38and you can find details on our web-site.

0:15:40 > 0:15:42If you need full hearing tests

0:15:42 > 0:15:46to find out what the problem is, you have got two options.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49You can either get your GP to arrange for you

0:15:49 > 0:15:51to have those tests through the NHS.

0:15:51 > 0:15:55Or you can go privately to a high street hearing aid dispenser.

0:15:56 > 0:16:00If you're buying privately, make sure you can have a money back guarantee.

0:16:00 > 0:16:03That means that you will have at least 28 days

0:16:03 > 0:16:05to try out your hearing aids

0:16:05 > 0:16:10and you can return them within that time if they're really not suitable.

0:16:10 > 0:16:13Or it may be possible for them to be adjusted to suit you better.

0:16:16 > 0:16:18Be wary of advertising claims,

0:16:18 > 0:16:23because no hearing aid, however clever the technology,

0:16:23 > 0:16:25can actually restore perfect hearing.

0:16:28 > 0:16:30If you're thinking of getting your hearing aids through the NHS,

0:16:30 > 0:16:33the waiting times are now quite short

0:16:33 > 0:16:36between GP referral and actually having your hearing aids.

0:16:36 > 0:16:38And they're of really good quality

0:16:38 > 0:16:41and will make a real difference to your daily life.

0:16:44 > 0:16:46Still to come on Rip Off Britain:

0:16:46 > 0:16:49We asked you to tell us about the rip offs that have affected you

0:16:49 > 0:16:51and your response was huge.

0:16:51 > 0:16:55Hundreds of you took the time to visit us at our pop up shop,

0:16:55 > 0:16:57where we heard even more stories

0:16:57 > 0:17:00about things which don't seem to have been properly explained.

0:17:00 > 0:17:02At this stage it is probably worth

0:17:02 > 0:17:05picking up with Trading Standards, Citizens' Advice Bureau,

0:17:05 > 0:17:06get them on board.

0:17:10 > 0:17:13Now for many of you, your house will be the most valuable asset

0:17:13 > 0:17:16to pass on to your children when you die.

0:17:16 > 0:17:17But an increasing number of us

0:17:17 > 0:17:21worry that as we get older, we may need to pay for some sort of care

0:17:21 > 0:17:25and selling our house might be the only way to cover the cost.

0:17:25 > 0:17:26So what if somebody told you

0:17:26 > 0:17:30that there was a way to safeguard some of the value of your house?

0:17:30 > 0:17:32Harold and Joan Torkington believed

0:17:32 > 0:17:35such a deal would give them peace of mind.

0:17:36 > 0:17:39Joan Torkington has been a member

0:17:39 > 0:17:42of the Hazelgrove Ladies Club for 50 years.

0:17:42 > 0:17:45Once a week she and her friends meet for a chat

0:17:45 > 0:17:48and to enjoy the guest speakers.

0:17:48 > 0:17:51In the spring of 2011, one such speaker

0:17:51 > 0:17:54was from a firm called National Legal Assistance.

0:17:54 > 0:17:56He explained to Joan and her friends

0:17:56 > 0:17:59that people with assets such as property or savings

0:17:59 > 0:18:04usually have to pay for any care needed in their old age.

0:18:04 > 0:18:07But if they signed up to something called a family property trust,

0:18:07 > 0:18:11it would mean their homes would be protected.

0:18:11 > 0:18:15I thought, well, this is right, if I'm taken into a home,

0:18:15 > 0:18:21they won't be able to take my house off me, and good idea.

0:18:21 > 0:18:25Joan hurried home to tell her husband, Harold.

0:18:25 > 0:18:28Both liked the sound of it, as they were keen to protect

0:18:28 > 0:18:31their home and savings for their children and grandchildren.

0:18:31 > 0:18:36We didn't wanted to be cheated out of our house.

0:18:36 > 0:18:40Other people who didn't have quite as much money

0:18:40 > 0:18:42were going to get paid for

0:18:42 > 0:18:45and we'd paid our taxes and dues

0:18:45 > 0:18:49over the years, and it didn't seem fair.

0:18:49 > 0:18:53The Torkingtons asked a representative from the company

0:18:53 > 0:18:56to visit to give them more information.

0:18:56 > 0:19:02He said it puts a complete ring fence round everything you own.

0:19:04 > 0:19:08And in effect it no longer belongs to you.

0:19:10 > 0:19:16It belongs to the people in the will you're leaving all your estate to.

0:19:18 > 0:19:25He said, although you can spend it, you can sell your house,

0:19:25 > 0:19:33and change and get a smaller house, all we will do - that's them -

0:19:33 > 0:19:36we'll put the smaller house into the ring fence

0:19:36 > 0:19:38and that will be included.

0:19:40 > 0:19:42Such trusts can be complicated,

0:19:42 > 0:19:47so we asked solicitor, Gary Rycroft to explain exactly how they work.

0:19:47 > 0:19:50A property trust is an arrangement

0:19:50 > 0:19:54where the owners of a property transfer ownership from themselves

0:19:54 > 0:19:56to a separate trust arrangement.

0:19:56 > 0:19:58So they no longer own the property themselves.

0:19:58 > 0:20:02It's useful if you're concerned about care home fees,

0:20:02 > 0:20:05because you can transfer the ownership of the property you live in

0:20:05 > 0:20:07into a separate trust arrangement.

0:20:07 > 0:20:11This means that if you are assessed for the cost of care fees,

0:20:11 > 0:20:16you don't have to declare ownership of the house that you're living in.

0:20:16 > 0:20:18It all seemed to make sense to Joan and Harold

0:20:18 > 0:20:20and they agreed to sign up.

0:20:23 > 0:20:26He said the whole thing would take five or six weeks.

0:20:26 > 0:20:29Obviously it would cost a bit.

0:20:30 > 0:20:37But in our case when he totted it all up, he could do it for £2,395.

0:20:40 > 0:20:47Initially I thought, "My God, you can get your will for £300."

0:20:47 > 0:20:51But thinking about it, I thought, yeah, and we agreed.

0:20:51 > 0:20:56But after sleeping on it and studying the paperwork further,

0:20:56 > 0:21:00the Torkingtons started to have second thoughts.

0:21:00 > 0:21:03They called their bank to put a stop to the cheque they had signed.

0:21:04 > 0:21:09He says, "I'm sorry we can't cancel it, it's already been cashed."

0:21:10 > 0:21:16And I said, "But that's silly, how can that possibly be?

0:21:16 > 0:21:20It's usually three to five days before a cheque is honoured."

0:21:22 > 0:21:23"Yes, well...

0:21:25 > 0:21:28"they happen to use the same bank."

0:21:30 > 0:21:32And they cashed it without question.

0:21:32 > 0:21:37The Torkingtons then contacted National Legal Assistance directly.

0:21:37 > 0:21:42Harold was told if he returned the cancellation form within seven days,

0:21:42 > 0:21:44they would get their money back.

0:21:44 > 0:21:47So he sent it by registered post and waited.

0:21:49 > 0:21:51And waited.

0:21:51 > 0:21:52Nothing happened.

0:21:54 > 0:21:57So he got back in touch.

0:21:57 > 0:21:59They'd received our cancellation,

0:21:59 > 0:22:02but the computer in the accounts department had broken down

0:22:02 > 0:22:07and they were running late and bear with them and all the rest of it.

0:22:07 > 0:22:10The Torkingtons didn't know what to do next

0:22:10 > 0:22:13and that is when they contacted Rip Off Britain.

0:22:13 > 0:22:15We've discovered on average

0:22:15 > 0:22:19you should expect to pay £500 for a property trust.

0:22:19 > 0:22:25Far less than the £2,395 Harold and Joan had paid up.

0:22:29 > 0:22:31If I'd known that in the first place,

0:22:31 > 0:22:34or had any idea that was the going rate,

0:22:34 > 0:22:36the fella wouldn't have had a chance.

0:22:37 > 0:22:39I'd have reported him

0:22:39 > 0:22:43as soon as he tried to sell me something for 2,395.

0:22:43 > 0:22:45Not only that, but solicitor Gary Rycroft believes the couple

0:22:45 > 0:22:50should never have been offered the trust in the first place.

0:22:50 > 0:22:51The thing about property trusts

0:22:51 > 0:22:53is it's better to do them sooner rather than later.

0:22:53 > 0:22:56In this case, if the couple had gone into care

0:22:56 > 0:22:59within six or 12 months of making the gift,

0:22:59 > 0:23:02then there was a significant risk

0:23:02 > 0:23:04the local would overturn the gift.

0:23:04 > 0:23:07And in that case, the fees they had paid to set up the property trust

0:23:07 > 0:23:09would have been wasted.

0:23:10 > 0:23:12I think the point is that it is risky

0:23:12 > 0:23:15and so if you're entering into this kind of arrangement,

0:23:15 > 0:23:18the risk needs to be pointed out to you.

0:23:18 > 0:23:20We contacted National Legal Assistance,

0:23:20 > 0:23:23but have had no response from them.

0:23:23 > 0:23:26Which perhaps isn't surprising.

0:23:26 > 0:23:29It's part of a company that has been officially wound up

0:23:29 > 0:23:30by the Insolvency Service

0:23:30 > 0:23:34after concerns were raised about their sales techniques

0:23:34 > 0:23:35and business conduct.

0:23:35 > 0:23:39It's unclear where this leaves customers like Joan and Harold,

0:23:39 > 0:23:41and there are lots of them.

0:23:41 > 0:23:44It's known the companies closed down by the Insolvency Service

0:23:44 > 0:23:47made more than £1 million in sales.

0:23:50 > 0:23:52You can only put it down to experience,

0:23:52 > 0:23:56but they're experiences that we don't need at our age.

0:23:58 > 0:24:02And it's, you know, our time for...

0:24:04 > 0:24:08- Wasted three month of our life really.- Yeah!

0:24:08 > 0:24:12Nothing's happened, only arguments.

0:24:12 > 0:24:16The money doesn't really matter.

0:24:16 > 0:24:19- We've written it off.- It's the principle.- It's the principle.

0:24:23 > 0:24:26Opening up our very own pop-up shop on Rip Off Britain

0:24:26 > 0:24:29has turned out to be a wonderful idea.

0:24:29 > 0:24:31So many people have turned up.

0:24:31 > 0:24:33We have all the experts and we're very happy to help.

0:24:37 > 0:24:40It's been great to meet people face to face.

0:24:40 > 0:24:44BBC Learning have been helping people improve their maths,

0:24:44 > 0:24:46which should help avoid those rip offs.

0:24:46 > 0:24:48And our experts have been pointing people in the right direction,

0:24:48 > 0:24:49like John and Jane Lamb

0:24:49 > 0:24:55who want advice on broadband from phone expert Mike Wilson

0:24:55 > 0:24:57about an unwanted TV package.

0:24:57 > 0:25:01So obviously you had your broadband and phone with this provider

0:25:01 > 0:25:05and then just out of the blue they sent you this TV box to add on.

0:25:05 > 0:25:08- Yeah.- And then instantly started taking the direct debit as well?- Yes.

0:25:08 > 0:25:09Just extended it, didn't they?

0:25:09 > 0:25:12They changed the amount you actually originally paid.

0:25:12 > 0:25:15The box has been returned, I've sent to cancel the direct debit,

0:25:15 > 0:25:17to stop them taking any more money off me.

0:25:17 > 0:25:20Well that also meant cancelling me broadband as well.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22It sounds like you have had a case on your hands

0:25:22 > 0:25:25and what you can go back to them and say, "I've not had a contract."

0:25:25 > 0:25:27"If you'd have sent me a contract..."

0:25:27 > 0:25:30As a consumer you would have had 14 days to cancel at that stage.

0:25:30 > 0:25:34That's not happened, so they've not given you that opportunity.

0:25:34 > 0:25:37I'd say it is worth picking up with the likes of Trading Standards,

0:25:37 > 0:25:40Citizen's Advice Bureau,

0:25:40 > 0:25:42make sure you keep hold of all the documentation,

0:25:42 > 0:25:45keep an account of everything you're paying and have done

0:25:45 > 0:25:47since the issue arose in the first place.

0:25:47 > 0:25:49Follow up with Trading Standards,

0:25:49 > 0:25:51if you don't get any joy, you can escalate it

0:25:51 > 0:25:54to two people within the communications industry.

0:25:54 > 0:25:56You can go to a group called CISAS.org.uk.

0:25:56 > 0:26:01And they are the Communications And Internet Service Authority.

0:26:01 > 0:26:03You can also go to the ombudsman's service as well.

0:26:03 > 0:26:05Without a shadow of a doubt you're in the right here.

0:26:05 > 0:26:07Make sure you stand up for yourselves

0:26:07 > 0:26:10and make sure they give you a full refund.

0:26:10 > 0:26:13Remain persistent and get the money back you're owed.

0:26:14 > 0:26:15Very good advice.

0:26:15 > 0:26:19How to complain successfully has come up time and time again

0:26:19 > 0:26:20in our pop-up shop

0:26:20 > 0:26:23as our Rip Off researchers have been telling us.

0:26:23 > 0:26:28What about the general sense that people, it's not that they don't know how to complain,

0:26:28 > 0:26:31they do complain, but they never get any satisfaction -

0:26:31 > 0:26:34has that been something that has come up?

0:26:34 > 0:26:37Yes, a lot of people seem to think that it takes too long to complain.

0:26:37 > 0:26:40You're having to complain over and over again

0:26:40 > 0:26:43to different people every time you speak to a company.

0:26:43 > 0:26:46I've spoken to a lot of people today who have found

0:26:46 > 0:26:50that they do want to complain but they don't have the time to do it.

0:26:50 > 0:26:52A lot of people coming in today

0:26:52 > 0:26:54have exhausted every possible option

0:26:54 > 0:26:56that they think is available to them

0:26:56 > 0:26:58so speaking to our experts today

0:26:58 > 0:27:01has really fired them up again to fight these big companies.

0:27:03 > 0:27:05For more tips on how to fight back,

0:27:05 > 0:27:11if you feel you've been ripped off, do visit our website at:

0:27:16 > 0:27:19Next, a couple who did everything they could

0:27:19 > 0:27:23to plan for their family's future but it still went completely wrong.

0:27:23 > 0:27:27Roger and Francois wanted to leave their children

0:27:27 > 0:27:30financially secure and avoid them being hit by inheritance tax.

0:27:30 > 0:27:34So, they took advice on the best products available.

0:27:34 > 0:27:36But 10 years later,

0:27:36 > 0:27:38they were told the value of what they had bought

0:27:38 > 0:27:41had plummeted and suddenly, it wasn't worth

0:27:41 > 0:27:44anything like what they thought they had been guaranteed.

0:27:48 > 0:27:52I think it's very important to prepare for the future.

0:27:52 > 0:27:55One reads every day in the press about

0:27:55 > 0:28:00the huge numbers of people who die without having a will

0:28:00 > 0:28:03or having made plans for their children or grandchildren.

0:28:03 > 0:28:06Like many parents, Roger Middleton and his wife Francois

0:28:06 > 0:28:08planned to leave all their assets, mainly the house,

0:28:08 > 0:28:12to their three children, divided equally between them.

0:28:12 > 0:28:14When we took out the initial mortgage,

0:28:14 > 0:28:19we had an insurance policy which was running in tandem with it.

0:28:19 > 0:28:23And when the mortgage was cleared, we reviewed that.

0:28:25 > 0:28:27They were worried about how their children would pay

0:28:27 > 0:28:29any inheritance tax on their estate

0:28:29 > 0:28:33so 12 years ago, they took out a whole of life insurance policy

0:28:33 > 0:28:34with Scottish Provident.

0:28:34 > 0:28:38It had a face value of £160,000

0:28:38 > 0:28:41and would pay out when both the Middletons had died.

0:28:42 > 0:28:45One wanted to make sure

0:28:45 > 0:28:48that we were leaving financial matters as tidy as possible

0:28:48 > 0:28:51and giving as much protection as possible to our children.

0:28:51 > 0:28:55Though the premiums increased slightly each year

0:28:55 > 0:28:58for the next 10 years, Roger and Francois knew this meant

0:28:58 > 0:29:00the payout would keep pace with inflation

0:29:00 > 0:29:04and hoped it would be a huge help to their children in the future.

0:29:04 > 0:29:06We were feeling very good about it.

0:29:06 > 0:29:09We continued to pay our premiums each year.

0:29:09 > 0:29:11We eventually managed to get out of them

0:29:11 > 0:29:14that at the current valuation,

0:29:14 > 0:29:18it was worth 243,000 in round terms.

0:29:18 > 0:29:21So, we felt pretty good about that.

0:29:21 > 0:29:23But not long after that new valuation,

0:29:23 > 0:29:25the couple were shocked

0:29:25 > 0:29:27to find that following a review of their policy,

0:29:27 > 0:29:30they were now faced with two options,

0:29:30 > 0:29:32neither of which they liked.

0:29:32 > 0:29:38Option one was to maintain the current value of the policy,

0:29:38 > 0:29:41i.e. the original 160,000.

0:29:41 > 0:29:47But for that, we would have now to pay something like £3,400 a year.

0:29:47 > 0:29:49Not impressed at all.

0:29:49 > 0:29:56Option two was to continue to pay what we were currently paying,

0:29:56 > 0:29:57this year,

0:29:57 > 0:30:00but the value would then fall to 38,000.

0:30:02 > 0:30:05In other words, a quarter, approximately,

0:30:05 > 0:30:07of the original face value,

0:30:07 > 0:30:09i.e., the original 160,000.

0:30:10 > 0:30:12So, we were not amused.

0:30:14 > 0:30:16The brochure for the policy

0:30:16 > 0:30:19does state that it would be reviewed after 10 years.

0:30:19 > 0:30:21However, Roger and Francois maintain

0:30:21 > 0:30:25they were never told the review could have such a dramatic result.

0:30:25 > 0:30:29I think and the time, if one had known the sort of uplift

0:30:29 > 0:30:32there was going to be, 10 years, 12 years on,

0:30:32 > 0:30:35we would probably have not gone with that option.

0:30:35 > 0:30:39Reviewable premiums on policies like these

0:30:39 > 0:30:43is something the financial ombudsman service hears about a lot.

0:30:43 > 0:30:45The consumer is saying that

0:30:45 > 0:30:48if it was made clear to them at the start of the policy

0:30:48 > 0:30:50that the premiums could increase substantially,

0:30:50 > 0:30:53they'd have made a different decision about taking out the policy.

0:30:53 > 0:30:56Sometimes, they are left in the position of deciding

0:30:56 > 0:30:59whether they'll take a doubling of the premiums

0:30:59 > 0:31:02or a big cut in the lump sum they can receive at the end.

0:31:02 > 0:31:05This can be quite significant because if somebody

0:31:05 > 0:31:06has been planning for the future,

0:31:06 > 0:31:10and then learns the amount they can expect to pay out is much smaller,

0:31:10 > 0:31:12they can be very disappointed.

0:31:12 > 0:31:13Roger is amongst the people

0:31:13 > 0:31:17who have taken their complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service.

0:31:17 > 0:31:21It ordered the company to refund three years worth of premiums

0:31:21 > 0:31:24because the review had been done three years later

0:31:24 > 0:31:25than it should have been.

0:31:25 > 0:31:28It is better to get something back then nothing,

0:31:28 > 0:31:33but the real bitter pill is the fact that the £160,000

0:31:33 > 0:31:35or its increased value - 240 odd thousand,

0:31:35 > 0:31:38has just vanished into thin air.

0:31:38 > 0:31:42Scottish Provident is now part of Phoenix Life Limited,

0:31:42 > 0:31:44who told us that given the Middletons' age

0:31:44 > 0:31:45when they took out the policy,

0:31:45 > 0:31:48it was inevitable their premiums would increase

0:31:48 > 0:31:52when there was a review as the chances of a claim would be greater.

0:31:52 > 0:31:55They agree they made an error doing the review late

0:31:55 > 0:31:58and are sorry the Middletons were shocked to hear its effect

0:31:58 > 0:32:01but say it was the responsibility of the couple's financial advisers

0:32:01 > 0:32:05to insure they understood exactly what the review would mean.

0:32:05 > 0:32:08So, we spoke to those advisers, a company called Brewin Dolphin.

0:32:08 > 0:32:12They emphasise that using insurance products of this type

0:32:12 > 0:32:16to minimise tax liabilities isn't suitable for everyone

0:32:16 > 0:32:18but insist it did make sense for Roger.

0:32:18 > 0:32:21They are adamant the Middleton's knew there would be a review

0:32:21 > 0:32:24and had been given an option to avoid it by paying higher premiums.

0:32:24 > 0:32:27They're sorry Roger was surprised by all this

0:32:27 > 0:32:31but say they find it difficult to see how he could have been.

0:32:31 > 0:32:32But the couple feel

0:32:32 > 0:32:36the choice they have been left with is no choice at all.

0:32:36 > 0:32:39Pay the same premiums and end up with less

0:32:39 > 0:32:42or pay higher premiums and still get less.

0:32:42 > 0:32:45It's impossible, really, for us to continue and therefore,

0:32:45 > 0:32:49we will have to see if they are any other viable options.

0:32:49 > 0:32:52So, Roger has decided that the best option for him now

0:32:52 > 0:32:56is to surrender his policy for no value.

0:32:56 > 0:32:58He's sticking to savings so he's in charge

0:32:58 > 0:33:01and there will be no review around the corner.

0:33:05 > 0:33:09You know the old saying, where there's a will, there's a way,

0:33:09 > 0:33:10well, that saying could act

0:33:10 > 0:33:13as a warning to someone who chooses to employ

0:33:13 > 0:33:17a will writing service to draw up their will, as opposed to a lawyer.

0:33:17 > 0:33:18The legal ombudsman, this year,

0:33:18 > 0:33:21issued a warning about the will writing business

0:33:21 > 0:33:24because currently, it's totally unregulated.

0:33:24 > 0:33:28In other words, anyone can set up shop, offering their services,

0:33:28 > 0:33:30indeed, charging whatever they like.

0:33:33 > 0:33:36Meet Jude Southwick. She looks happy, doesn't she?

0:33:36 > 0:33:39Well, she's feeling triumphant after a recent victory

0:33:39 > 0:33:42here in court, where she won back more than £400

0:33:42 > 0:33:45that she had paid to a will writing company.

0:33:45 > 0:33:49It's a year and a half since she handed over the money.

0:33:49 > 0:33:53Jude and her husband had approached the company,

0:33:53 > 0:33:56asking them to make a couple of changes to their wills.

0:33:56 > 0:34:01I told him that it was very simple alterations that I needed

0:34:01 > 0:34:04and he said, no, no, no, you would need a new will

0:34:04 > 0:34:09and quoted a price for the two wills for £199 and said...

0:34:09 > 0:34:11And we arranged a meeting

0:34:11 > 0:34:14and he said he would send a pre-visit brochure.

0:34:14 > 0:34:17But the brochure from the company didn't arrive

0:34:17 > 0:34:21before the arranged meeting, so when their will writer came around,

0:34:21 > 0:34:24Jude says she was unable to make head or tail

0:34:24 > 0:34:26of a lot of what he said,

0:34:26 > 0:34:29including how the fees were worked out.

0:34:29 > 0:34:34He proceeded with the meeting which was very, very drawn out

0:34:34 > 0:34:37and confused my husband and I.

0:34:39 > 0:34:43He asked us who we wanted to be trustees and executors

0:34:43 > 0:34:47and what if they couldn't do it and it went on and on and on.

0:34:47 > 0:34:48At the end of the meeting,

0:34:48 > 0:34:52Jude was staggered to be asked for a cheque for nearly £600,

0:34:52 > 0:34:56three times the amount she said she was first quoted.

0:34:56 > 0:34:59I was very shocked but I did pay it,

0:34:59 > 0:35:03so I wrote a cheque for £599, regrettably.

0:35:05 > 0:35:08Already disappointed at paying more than she'd hoped,

0:35:08 > 0:35:12Jude was even more unhappy when the company sent through the wills.

0:35:12 > 0:35:16When the draft wills arrived, they didn't contain wishes.

0:35:16 > 0:35:21He had put the financial adviser as adviser to our estate

0:35:21 > 0:35:25and he had to put a corporation trust as trustees.

0:35:25 > 0:35:27That was quite a long way down the will.

0:35:27 > 0:35:30It was very difficult for us to understand them,

0:35:30 > 0:35:33so we didn't know if they'd been written correctly or not.

0:35:36 > 0:35:39There were other elements of the wills that Jude wasn't happy with,

0:35:39 > 0:35:41or that she didn't need at all.

0:35:41 > 0:35:44It took two months and several re-writes

0:35:44 > 0:35:46before the final wills were sorted.

0:35:46 > 0:35:50When Jude got the invoice, she spotted that part of the cost

0:35:50 > 0:35:54was a charge of £200 just for the wills to be stored.

0:35:55 > 0:36:00I wrote a letter and said that we hadn't ordered the storage

0:36:00 > 0:36:05and he sent £100 back as a gesture of goodwill.

0:36:05 > 0:36:08But Jude didn't think that was enough,

0:36:08 > 0:36:10so she rang the advice service, Consumer Direct,

0:36:10 > 0:36:13who told her that it sounded like the contract was invalid

0:36:13 > 0:36:17because the company had failed to provide a cooling off period,

0:36:17 > 0:36:20something anyone selling in a customer's home has got to do.

0:36:22 > 0:36:27Jude took her various complaints about the wills to the County Court

0:36:27 > 0:36:28and that's why she's smiling,

0:36:28 > 0:36:31because the judge ruled that the company should refund her

0:36:31 > 0:36:35a further £419.

0:36:35 > 0:36:37The company has told us

0:36:37 > 0:36:40that they disagree with Jude's versions of the events,

0:36:40 > 0:36:42insisting its prices are competitive

0:36:42 > 0:36:45and claiming that the issue only became protracted

0:36:45 > 0:36:50because Jude was mistaken on various points and kept changing her mind.

0:36:50 > 0:36:54Although the company Jude used does have plenty of experience,

0:36:54 > 0:36:56she was surprised during her legal battle

0:36:56 > 0:37:00to find that the will writing industry isn't regulated.

0:37:00 > 0:37:03You don't need a legal qualification to write one.

0:37:03 > 0:37:06Points she's raised with her local MP.

0:37:06 > 0:37:11The Ministry of Justice is now going to have a full consultation on this,

0:37:11 > 0:37:14which will be conducted by the Legal Services Board

0:37:14 > 0:37:17and they're going to consult with the Law Society

0:37:17 > 0:37:20and the Institute of Professional Will Writers.

0:37:20 > 0:37:22I think you've got a success story.

0:37:22 > 0:37:24Although her case is now resolved,

0:37:24 > 0:37:28Judith's keen that other people don't go through a similar experience.

0:37:28 > 0:37:31I really want to try and do something about it

0:37:31 > 0:37:34so it saves other people the same thing happening to them.

0:37:39 > 0:37:42It's something that we all shy away from,

0:37:42 > 0:37:44but one of the most important documents

0:37:44 > 0:37:47any of us will ever draw up is a will.

0:37:47 > 0:37:50Traditionally, a trip to the solicitor would do the job,

0:37:50 > 0:37:55but nowadays it seems that anyone can write up and administer a will.

0:37:55 > 0:37:58Crispin Passmore, from Legal Services, is here to answer, why?

0:37:58 > 0:38:00Crispin, call me naive

0:38:00 > 0:38:04but how is it possible that anybody can write a will?

0:38:04 > 0:38:07The regulation of legal services has grown around the needs

0:38:07 > 0:38:11of the legal profession, perhaps rather around the needs of consumers

0:38:11 > 0:38:13and needs of people that want to get their will written.

0:38:13 > 0:38:16We're in place to change that and make sure

0:38:16 > 0:38:20all the different bodies involved in looking after this area,

0:38:20 > 0:38:24- do it in the interests of consumers. - How tenacious are you about that?

0:38:24 > 0:38:28We're relentless in the way we look at consumer focus on regulation

0:38:28 > 0:38:32and the way lawyers and will writers operate in this market.

0:38:32 > 0:38:35It's going to take some time to change things.

0:38:35 > 0:38:37We're collecting evidence about will writers,

0:38:37 > 0:38:40we're collecting evidence about how solicitors work.

0:38:40 > 0:38:43There's as many problems as there are with regulated professionals

0:38:43 > 0:38:46in this area as there are with unregulated firms.

0:38:46 > 0:38:47It seems ridiculous to me

0:38:47 > 0:38:52that something as important as a will can just be done by anybody.

0:38:52 > 0:38:56We should remember that perhaps 80% or more of the wills

0:38:56 > 0:38:59and the services around them are delivered perfectly well.

0:38:59 > 0:39:01Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

0:39:01 > 0:39:04But there are some problems we need to tackle,

0:39:04 > 0:39:08but half the population doesn't have a will written.

0:39:08 > 0:39:10People shy away from it altogether.

0:39:10 > 0:39:14They do and if we push the price up and less people get wills written,

0:39:14 > 0:39:16that's not a good outcome either.

0:39:16 > 0:39:19In the old days, as far as my family were concerned,

0:39:19 > 0:39:21you automatically thought of a solicitor

0:39:21 > 0:39:23to draw up your will and to execute it.

0:39:23 > 0:39:26But now that anybody can do it do you think it's because

0:39:26 > 0:39:30people shy away from it and it's a cheaper option?

0:39:30 > 0:39:33I don't want to go to the solicitor's office,

0:39:33 > 0:39:35I'll take this person who will come to my house.

0:39:35 > 0:39:38People seem to make a range of different things

0:39:38 > 0:39:40to help them choose where to go.

0:39:40 > 0:39:45We know consumers think will writers are more likely to be lower-priced,

0:39:45 > 0:39:49but we know that lots of them are scared of going to a solicitor.

0:39:49 > 0:39:52I always think we should say to consumers,

0:39:52 > 0:39:55you wouldn't choose a television by going into one shop

0:39:55 > 0:39:57or by inviting one person into your house

0:39:57 > 0:39:59and buying the first thing they show.

0:39:59 > 0:40:04Go and look around the regulated sector, the unregulated sector.

0:40:04 > 0:40:06Ask about their prices,

0:40:06 > 0:40:08about whether or not you can go to an ombudsman.

0:40:08 > 0:40:12Ask about their insurance and ask to speak to satisfied customers.

0:40:12 > 0:40:15If you don't think they're going to listen to you, go somewhere else.

0:40:15 > 0:40:19We've talked about the mistakes will writing companies make

0:40:19 > 0:40:20in that they put in executors

0:40:20 > 0:40:23that maybe the client never even heard of.

0:40:23 > 0:40:26But the same thing happens with banks

0:40:26 > 0:40:29and with some solicitors in that when people, if they don't know,

0:40:29 > 0:40:32the bank will go, "Do you want me to be your executor?"

0:40:32 > 0:40:33They go, "That will be fine,"

0:40:33 > 0:40:37not knowing you can charge almost as much money as you want

0:40:37 > 0:40:39to execute the will.

0:40:39 > 0:40:41That's not transparent and that's not fair.

0:40:41 > 0:40:44No, and one of the things we're looking at

0:40:44 > 0:40:47is about inappropriate bundling of services,

0:40:47 > 0:40:50making sure people only buy what they want to buy

0:40:50 > 0:40:53and that things that shouldn't be sold together aren't sold together.

0:40:53 > 0:40:56We're working with the Solicitors' Regulation Authority

0:40:56 > 0:40:59and the Office of Fair Trading and we've had some success

0:40:59 > 0:41:02getting banks and law firms to change their practice.

0:41:02 > 0:41:04We need to make sure all of them do.

0:41:04 > 0:41:07- Crispin, I hope you make it happen. - Thank you very much.

0:41:08 > 0:41:12Here at Rip Off Britain we're always ready to investigate

0:41:12 > 0:41:13more of your stories.

0:41:13 > 0:41:16Confused over your bills?

0:41:16 > 0:41:19Trying to wade your way through small print

0:41:19 > 0:41:21that leaves you totally confused?

0:41:21 > 0:41:23I might have been stupid for not reading it,

0:41:23 > 0:41:26or I've read it and not took it in.

0:41:26 > 0:41:28I could kick myself, I really could.

0:41:28 > 0:41:31Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out

0:41:31 > 0:41:35and that great deal has ended up costing you money?

0:41:35 > 0:41:37I thought this cannot be true.

0:41:37 > 0:41:40It's totally unacceptable. I was so angry.

0:41:40 > 0:41:42You might have a cautionary tale

0:41:42 > 0:41:45of your own and want to share the mistakes you've made

0:41:45 > 0:41:48with us so that other people don't do the same thing.

0:41:48 > 0:41:51No-one knows about this, this is very strange to me.

0:41:51 > 0:41:54I really would like to get this much clearer.

0:41:54 > 0:42:00Don't forget you can always write to us.

0:42:05 > 0:42:13Or you can always get in touch by sending us an e-mail.

0:42:13 > 0:42:16Don't forget the Rip Off team is ready and waiting

0:42:16 > 0:42:19to investigate your stories.

0:42:19 > 0:42:23I have to say, and I don't know how you two feel about this,

0:42:23 > 0:42:27but it's been very clear from the stories we've heard,

0:42:27 > 0:42:30and indeed the amount of letters and e-mails that you sent us,

0:42:30 > 0:42:34that when a company doesn't very clearly explain their procedures,

0:42:34 > 0:42:36contracts and bills,

0:42:36 > 0:42:39then you can very easily end up losing out.

0:42:39 > 0:42:41Absolutely.

0:42:41 > 0:42:44We always say make sure you go through your paperwork

0:42:44 > 0:42:45with a fine tooth comb

0:42:45 > 0:42:48and if in doubt, always get it checked out.

0:42:48 > 0:42:50I agree with both of you implicitly.

0:42:50 > 0:42:53Never ever be afraid to seek assistance

0:42:53 > 0:42:56because it could end up saving you a huge amount of money.

0:42:56 > 0:42:59Next time we'll be tackling more of your stories.

0:42:59 > 0:43:02Until then thank you for your company

0:43:02 > 0:43:04- and from all of us, bye-bye. - Bye-bye.- Bye.

0:43:09 > 0:43:14E-mail subtitling@bbc.co.uk

0:43:14 > 0:43:18Subtitles by Red Bee Media