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:00:00. > :00:00.Hello and welcome to a new series of Watchdog.

:00:07. > :00:10.Live - and on your side - for the next 60 minutes.

:00:11. > :00:14.Tonight, we're taking to task some of Britain's best known businesses.

:00:15. > :00:16.Including three coffee chains that dominate every high street.

:00:17. > :00:20.Millions of us place an order every day.

:00:21. > :00:41.But what our tests show up, you won't want in your cup.

:00:42. > :00:44.Hello, thanks for joining us on Watchdog Live

:00:45. > :00:55.As ever, we're here to tackle the stories that matter most to you.

:00:56. > :00:57.And because we're live, together we can get things

:00:58. > :01:01.You told us about safety problems you've had with newly

:01:02. > :01:04.Gas leaks and smoke is not what you should be getting.

:01:05. > :01:07.Tonight, Energy UK are in the studio to explain how

:01:08. > :01:10.And we're on the trail of more rogue traders.

:01:11. > :01:12.This week, exposing some of the most appalling

:01:13. > :01:31.And he's the guy that trains new recruits!

:01:32. > :01:34.Also tonight, with us are some miffed Ryanair customers.

:01:35. > :01:38.These guys reckon the airline is deliberately splitting up groups

:01:39. > :01:41.of passengers who haven't paid for reserved seating.

:01:42. > :01:44.To find out if they're right, we booked some of our own flights.

:01:45. > :01:48.And later, I get to sit right next to one of the Ryanair bosses to find

:01:49. > :01:54.You may have seen in the news we've done

:01:55. > :01:56.some other tests, too - into hygiene

:01:57. > :01:59.at the three biggest coffee chains in the UK -

:02:00. > :02:04.Costa, Starbucks, and Caffe Nero.

:02:05. > :02:08.Nikki Fox has been investigating with her very own swab mob.

:02:09. > :02:13.It seems we've turned up a bigger problem

:02:14. > :02:17.We found something very nasty in almost half

:02:18. > :02:21.And it prompted this reaction from one of the country's leading

:02:22. > :02:34.The levels in contamination of faecal bacteria concerns me a lot.

:02:35. > :02:36.They should not be there. At any level.

:02:37. > :02:38.The full shocking story coming up shortly.

:02:39. > :02:39.But we can't do anything without you.

:02:40. > :02:43.Now the team behind me - give us a wave - they'd love to hear

:02:44. > :02:48.You can email us - at watchdog@bbc.co.uk.

:02:49. > :03:02.By 2020, the government wants us all to have one - 53 million.

:03:03. > :03:08.But in the rush to make that happen, some of you say your homes

:03:09. > :03:23.It's one of the biggest infrastructure projects ever

:03:24. > :03:28.undertaken in the UK. Aiming to replace every gas and electricity

:03:29. > :03:33.meter in homes and small businesses over the next three years. But this

:03:34. > :03:37.ambitious roll-out has already been hit with a series of delays and

:03:38. > :03:42.problems. Hundreds of you have been getting in touch about issues with

:03:43. > :03:46.new smart meters, including inaccurate bills and difficulty

:03:47. > :03:50.switching suppliers. And we are starting to hear about some really

:03:51. > :03:59.serious concerns to do with the way smart meters are installed in our

:04:00. > :04:04.homes. Keith Atkins had his new dual fuel smart meter installed by

:04:05. > :04:10.British Gas engineer in October 3016. You decided you want a smart

:04:11. > :04:13.meter, what happened? I phoned my supplier, British Gas, and he

:04:14. > :04:17.arranged for a guy to come and install. It was about two weeks

:04:18. > :04:21.later before we discovered we had a leak because we went away for a

:04:22. > :04:26.couple of days. The house was shut up. I returned and opened the front

:04:27. > :04:30.door and smelt the gas. Were you in panic? Yes, I didn't have a clue

:04:31. > :04:33.what was going on. I opened the doors and windows and phoned the

:04:34. > :04:40.emergency people and they were here within 20 minutes. Keith had a house

:04:41. > :04:44.full of gas which the emergency engineer established was down to the

:04:45. > :04:48.installation of the smart meter, a washer had been left off when it was

:04:49. > :04:53.put in. When you found out it was the smart meter, how did you feel?

:04:54. > :04:59.Devastated. I thought British Gas are the people you go to for these

:05:00. > :05:02.jobs. The way it was installed was terrible, really. I phoned the

:05:03. > :05:06.customer services and she said to me, it's all fixed now, what do you

:05:07. > :05:12.want us to do about it? It's terrifying. His case isn't the one

:05:13. > :05:15.off you would hope. Customers from other major energy suppliers have

:05:16. > :05:20.also contacted us with serious safety concerns over their smart

:05:21. > :05:24.meters installation. Stephen Allen from Guildford e-mailed us after an

:05:25. > :05:30.engineer working on behalf of First Utility installed a smart meter in a

:05:31. > :05:34.box outside his house in January. But after two days he became

:05:35. > :05:38.increasingly worried about a loud banging noise, so he called out an

:05:39. > :05:43.emergency engineer who told him the new smart meter installation had

:05:44. > :05:47.left him with unstable gas levels. I thought my family were in danger

:05:48. > :05:50.because of the gas, because it's a flammable substance. It is going

:05:51. > :05:56.through your house. If something went wrong with that, you don't know

:05:57. > :05:59.what would happen. A worrying time, and during a replacement

:06:00. > :06:04.installation that also went wrong, Stephen says he saw the engineer hit

:06:05. > :06:08.the smart meter on the grounds to dislodge a part. Although that

:06:09. > :06:11.wasn't dangerous, he ended up needing eight third smart meter

:06:12. > :06:15.fitted. To get an expert view on these cases I have brought our

:06:16. > :06:19.evidence to two leading professionals. Mike Griffin has more

:06:20. > :06:24.than 30 years experience in the gas industry. Martin Allen is an

:06:25. > :06:29.experienced electrician and engineer for a technical company. Looking at

:06:30. > :06:33.Keith's case, it's all to do with the washer. It's unforgivable to put

:06:34. > :06:39.it back together and not put the washer in. It's the basics of gas

:06:40. > :06:44.work and the process of doing that, it set out in gas safety

:06:45. > :06:47.regulations. Its negligence, lack of enforcement in training to make sure

:06:48. > :06:53.they understand what they are doing and why. In Stephen's case, it

:06:54. > :06:57.sounds like loads of things went wrong, so many engineers involved.

:06:58. > :07:01.Is there anything Stephen could have done? Nothing in this is Stephen's

:07:02. > :07:05.fault. The only thing he could possibly have done was when he saw

:07:06. > :07:10.the engineer messing with the meter, may be called the employer. As well

:07:11. > :07:14.as dangerous gas installations, you have told us about worrying safety

:07:15. > :07:21.errors made during the fitting of electricity smart meters as well.

:07:22. > :07:25.Gillian and Alan Handley agreed to let Ovo energy upgrade their home to

:07:26. > :07:30.a smart meter before Christmas. Everything initially seemed fine but

:07:31. > :07:33.a few weeks later their son Jack noticed smoke pouring out of the

:07:34. > :07:38.fuse box in his bedroom cupboard. He was panicking at this smoke coming

:07:39. > :07:42.out of his cupboard. I followed him through and looked in the fuse box

:07:43. > :07:46.cupboard and saw this smoke in it, it was a panic. I wasn't sure

:07:47. > :07:51.whether or not I would electrocute myself or not by turning it off.

:07:52. > :07:56.After calling an emergency engineer, the family was told there fuse box

:07:57. > :08:01.had burnt out because of wires not being reconnected properly during

:08:02. > :08:05.the smart meter installation. I think we were extremely lucky to

:08:06. > :08:08.catch it when it did. All because of the smell. If we hadn't smelt

:08:09. > :08:15.anything in the room, I don't know if we would have noticed until it

:08:16. > :08:18.was on fire. Ovo energy admitted the engineer hadn't left their

:08:19. > :08:23.electricity in a safe state. The family had to move out for things to

:08:24. > :08:28.be put right. We were out of the house for ten days trying to stay in

:08:29. > :08:34.a Hotel with two young children. The dogs were in kennels, we can't get

:08:35. > :08:37.into the house. I don't believe the Ecotricity supplier checked their

:08:38. > :08:42.contractors correctly, otherwise they would have known these people

:08:43. > :08:47.were not fit for the job. -- the electricity supplier. In Gillian and

:08:48. > :08:51.Alan's case, this is dangerous, being told your electricity isn't in

:08:52. > :08:55.a safe state. I find that really shocking. It could have easily lead

:08:56. > :09:01.to a fire and been a terrible outcome. What do you think this is

:09:02. > :09:07.down to? Part of the training is for them to assess, if there is a chance

:09:08. > :09:12.of wires faulty in the fuse box, they have to take action. They

:09:13. > :09:16.didn't follow the procedures and it's inexcusable. How can trained

:09:17. > :09:20.engineers installing smart meters on behalf of big-name energy companies

:09:21. > :09:24.make such basic mistakes? One basic explanation could be down to the

:09:25. > :09:28.sheer scale of the roll-out. The challenge of employing enough

:09:29. > :09:32.engineers to hit the government's 2020 target has led to a huge

:09:33. > :09:35.recruitment drive and industry sources have told us they are

:09:36. > :09:47.concerned whether installations are being left to new engineers who

:09:48. > :09:49.haven't worked in gas or electricity before. While all the roles, with

:09:50. > :09:51.some training, Mike and Martin are clear that engineers need real-world

:09:52. > :09:56.experience alongside more practised colleagues. So do you think it's not

:09:57. > :10:00.just about training? It's not. From there you need to build experience

:10:01. > :10:03.and to make somebody competent in carrying out those smart meter

:10:04. > :10:07.installations. I can't see their not being more mistakes unless we do

:10:08. > :10:12.shadowing, taking pressure off the guys doing the installing, and make

:10:13. > :10:16.sure the emphasis is on a good meter that's installed properly and left

:10:17. > :10:22.safely. At an industry event last year the head of safety at Wales and

:10:23. > :10:27.West utilities, one of the UK's gas networks, expressed concerns that

:10:28. > :10:29.with new people coming into the industry, inexperienced meter

:10:30. > :10:35.workers could increase the number of mistakes. Meanwhile, citizens advice

:10:36. > :10:39.has confirmed to us that they have also been contacted about a number

:10:40. > :10:43.of unsafe smart meter installation this year. All of which raises

:10:44. > :10:51.serious questions about hitting the 2020 target safely. MP Derek Thomas

:10:52. > :10:54.sits on the House of Commons science and technology select committee,

:10:55. > :10:58.which is overseeing the smart meter roll-out. He wants the government to

:10:59. > :11:03.review the deadline and put safety first. I think it's fair to say that

:11:04. > :11:08.the energy suppliers are under pressure from this timetable. If

:11:09. > :11:11.there is any indication safeties comprised in somebody's home, we

:11:12. > :11:16.can't ignore that. The government has nothing to lose by setting up a

:11:17. > :11:21.review with Ofgem to look at the safety locations around the

:11:22. > :11:24.programme to protect people's homes. Let's see what the challenges are

:11:25. > :11:27.and make sure people are safe as we engage in the roll-out.

:11:28. > :11:31.Well, all the companies in that report have apologised.

:11:32. > :11:34.British Gas - whose engineer forgot to put on the washer -

:11:35. > :11:37.says all of its smart meter engineers are trained over

:11:38. > :11:38.a twelve month period to fit equipment correctly,

:11:39. > :11:47.The company's given Keith ?200 as a gesture of a goodwill.

:11:48. > :11:50.First Utility - who replaced Stephen's meter twice -

:11:51. > :11:55.It says his was a highly irregular example, which it's

:11:56. > :11:58.Siemens, who actually did the fitting, insist

:11:59. > :12:03.was carried out safely by an experienced engineer.

:12:04. > :12:06.It did need replacing, but the company says that's

:12:07. > :12:12.because the meter itself was faulty and there was no immediate danger.

:12:13. > :12:16.Or gas leak. It says all its engineers have extensive training.

:12:17. > :12:19.Finally, Ovo says its meter was wired incorrectly due to several

:12:20. > :12:21.factors, including human error, old fuse box equipment, and

:12:22. > :12:27.It says the engineer had successfully completed more than 900

:12:28. > :12:30.dual-fuel installations in the last 12 months.

:12:31. > :12:32.He was immediately suspended and retrained,

:12:33. > :12:38.With me is Audrey Gallacher from Energy Uk, which represents

:12:39. > :12:51.You just need more time. That's what you should be asking for, surely. We

:12:52. > :12:56.are seeing the results of that, health and safety in people's homes

:12:57. > :12:59.being affected. It's no doubt it's a really challenging programme and

:13:00. > :13:02.there is a lot to be done, but health and safety would never be

:13:03. > :13:07.compromised to meet a target. I want to reassure people of that. We

:13:08. > :13:13.already seeing mistakes. Currently you are sitting around 17,000 smart

:13:14. > :13:18.meters every day. You have to get to 50,000. Where will you magic the

:13:19. > :13:22.people who will make this happen safely and reliably? There is a big

:13:23. > :13:25.ramp up and there will be recruitment to do that. Let me

:13:26. > :13:29.reassure you that there is significant training in place.

:13:30. > :13:33.People have to have the right skills and competencies. A training regime

:13:34. > :13:37.is set out by the National skills Academy and people has to go through

:13:38. > :13:40.accredited training from their providers. It's important people

:13:41. > :13:47.know the training is there, but once somebody is trained, they don't just

:13:48. > :13:52.let get out. -- get let out. People will be mentors in them, coaching,

:13:53. > :13:57.and there are ongoing audits. Every house and job is different. You are

:13:58. > :14:02.sending out people to do a job for which they are barely equipped. When

:14:03. > :14:07.you look at the fact that even experienced engineers are going out

:14:08. > :14:11.to do it and it can result in serious problems to put people's

:14:12. > :14:16.lives at risk. These problems are completely unacceptable, I agree.

:14:17. > :14:19.Health and safety is the energy industry's number one priority and

:14:20. > :14:22.we will never compromise that. People who don't have the skills and

:14:23. > :14:26.competencies shouldn't be doing the jobs. If we find somebody has made a

:14:27. > :14:30.mistake, it is properly investigated, and we will look at

:14:31. > :14:32.their previous jobs. They will be retrained, and if that retraining

:14:33. > :14:36.doesn't bring them up to standards they will not be installing those

:14:37. > :14:41.metres. At what point do you go to the government and say you can't do

:14:42. > :14:46.it? You need to be fitting 50,000 per day. If everybody takes it up,

:14:47. > :14:50.40 million, and you only have done 7 million in the last few years. You

:14:51. > :14:53.have another two years. It's going to be a massive challenge, but

:14:54. > :14:57.health and safety will not be compromised. If it's about meeting

:14:58. > :15:01.the target or making people safe in their homes, forget the target.

:15:02. > :15:04.People will eventually make a balance between the problems they

:15:05. > :15:08.are seeing with this and what we have reported on tonight, and the

:15:09. > :15:12.savings they will make. Will the savings ever outweigh the risks we

:15:13. > :15:18.are seeing? I don't think there are any systemic risks in the programme.

:15:19. > :15:28.The cases you have highlighted are utterly unacceptable. We have 17,000

:15:29. > :15:30.going in every day. One is one too many but safety is paramount. We

:15:31. > :15:32.have been doing this for decades. We would never do anything to put

:15:33. > :15:39.anybody at risk. So there have clearly been

:15:40. > :15:43.problems with installation. Claire Osborne from the comparison

:15:44. > :15:51.site uSwitch joins us. Claire's also ready to answer your

:15:52. > :15:57.energy queries and problems on our Facebook page

:15:58. > :15:59.while we're on air. This is also your chance to let us

:16:00. > :16:03.know your experiences with smart Tonight's rogue traders

:16:04. > :16:06.are something else. It's not often I have the chance

:16:07. > :16:09.to show you a company whose behaviour encompasses racism,

:16:10. > :16:10.exploitation of the elderly, dishonesty, mis-selling

:16:11. > :16:13.and ruthlessly targeting those with dementia, but tonight,

:16:14. > :16:16.for the first show in our new series, that's

:16:17. > :16:45.exactly what I can do. The brick. For millennia, it has

:16:46. > :16:48.protected us humans from the elements, keeping warm and dry. The

:16:49. > :16:54.brick is considered one of the longest lasting and strongest

:16:55. > :16:58.building materials in existence. But according to Doctor -based company

:16:59. > :17:01.EnergySave central limited, temple bricks are no longer enough. They

:17:02. > :17:06.insist that what you now need is an external wall paint which they say

:17:07. > :17:09.is not only waterproof, but is also an insulating agent which can save

:17:10. > :17:13.you hundreds of pounds on your energy bills. The company uses a

:17:14. > :17:18.national sales team to flog the stuff. And they are awful. I mean,

:17:19. > :17:21.awful in ways I can't even begin to tell you. In fact, don't take it

:17:22. > :17:38.from me, take it from them. How very charming. Let's go and see

:17:39. > :17:42.Audrey. Audrey Wilson is 84. She has Alzheimer's and her son Tony and

:17:43. > :17:50.family, along with her carers, make sure she stays safe. "Doorstep

:17:51. > :17:54.Sellers, don't call here". But EnergySave found a way into her home

:17:55. > :18:01.in spite of their best efforts to protect her. The first day they

:18:02. > :18:04.visited, the care was here preparing mum's meal. The carer explain to

:18:05. > :18:08.them that my mother had Alzheimer's and was not in a position to make

:18:09. > :18:12.decisions and they were to take her off their mailing list and go away

:18:13. > :18:16.and not come back. So despite the fact that they were specifically

:18:17. > :18:21.told about your mum's Alzheimer's, this is not the house for you, what

:18:22. > :18:25.happened then? They came back three days later when the carer wasn't

:18:26. > :18:30.here and saw my mother on her and they proceeded to sell wall coating

:18:31. > :18:37.and took a deposit of her using her dead record of over ?1100. The total

:18:38. > :18:41.amount due for this unnecessary work was ?2300. When I phoned the company

:18:42. > :18:47.on the Monday and said she had Alzheimer's, it was a case of, so

:18:48. > :18:52.what? Audrey has no recollection of a salesman ever having called. Do

:18:53. > :18:57.you ever get people knocking on the door for you, do you get salesman

:18:58. > :19:02.ringing? No. They don't come round here, do they? If I want something,

:19:03. > :19:08.I go out and buy it. I don't wait for someone to ask me if I want it.

:19:09. > :19:13.Sounds like good sense to me. I have had a lovely chat with your mum

:19:14. > :19:20.today, but a lot of things, two or three times. Only? Said anyone

:19:21. > :19:26.sitting with your mum for any time... They must have realised she

:19:27. > :19:31.was vulnerable person, we can sign her up and make commission. After a

:19:32. > :19:33.lot of hard work and the family's persistence, the company eventually

:19:34. > :19:42.refunded Audrey her money. But while we were there, her phone rang. And

:19:43. > :19:46.guess who it was? You can halve our energy bills? EnergySave, who were

:19:47. > :19:50.yet again trying to sell Audrey some wall paint. If I hadn't been there

:19:51. > :19:52.to answer the phone, my mum would have answered the phone and they

:19:53. > :19:56.would have made another appointment for them to come round and see her.

:19:57. > :20:00.Obviously, they have taken no notice of the fact that she can't make

:20:01. > :20:04.decisions for herself, so who is to say they will not fund tomorrow?

:20:05. > :20:21.Thankfully, Audrey has people around her. She

:20:22. > :20:25.is not alone, and she is far from being alone when it comes to being

:20:26. > :20:28.targeted by energy saved. This is a company on the up, as can be seen on

:20:29. > :20:30.this snazzy promotional video on their social media page. From a

:20:31. > :20:33.single office, they are blossoming like a fungal rashes to a number of

:20:34. > :20:34.branches. Spondon, Ilkeston, Sheffield, Newcastle-under-Lyme and

:20:35. > :20:37.coming soon, Birmingham. And of course, the great thing about

:20:38. > :20:40.success and growth is that if you get bigger, you will need to take on

:20:41. > :20:42.more people. And if they are hiring, what's to stop them hiring someone

:20:43. > :20:50.from the BBC who is on the cover with a concealed camera in his hat?

:20:51. > :20:54.Set it running. David, not his real name, has not only got a job, he is

:20:55. > :20:57.starting at the Ilkeston headquarters of EnergySave, and it's

:20:58. > :21:04.not long before years about the commander-in-chief of this

:21:05. > :21:12.enterprise, this man, "Lord" Jason Rowan, on the left. That is a

:21:13. > :21:16.Bentley. And he had a Maserati. Lucky guy. Love the personalised

:21:17. > :21:24.number plates. Our undercover agent also soon met the sales training

:21:25. > :21:27.guru, Mr Phil Eremenko. He is the man to talk us through some of their

:21:28. > :21:35.key company policies, which are, oh, my goodness. Never see Asian people.

:21:36. > :21:55.The reason for that is not racist. Not racist?

:21:56. > :22:01.Mist, just not right for us. It's actually unlawful for anyone

:22:02. > :22:05.providing goods, facilities or services in the UK to discriminate

:22:06. > :22:12.on the basis of race. And of course, we suspect that EnergySave prefers

:22:13. > :22:16.to deal with a specific clientele. We will be seeing a lot more of the

:22:17. > :22:17.way EnergySave Celta the over 55s when we invite them out to a house

:22:18. > :22:20.filled with secret cameras. So, that's racism and exploitation

:22:21. > :22:24.of the elderly ticked off the list, but it is a long list,

:22:25. > :22:39.as you'll see in a bit. Matt is going to nail him. Nikki, we

:22:40. > :22:44.have had lots of messages. Terry on Twitter says, we had a gas leak

:22:45. > :22:50.since fitting the smart meter. The meter was also wired up the wrong

:22:51. > :22:57.way for the electric. Please carry on sending us your messages. And

:22:58. > :23:01.Claire will be giving users tips online, so head to the Facebook page

:23:02. > :23:04.if you have any questions on your smart meter. We have quite a few

:23:05. > :23:06.shocking stories tonight. Yes. And to kick that off,

:23:07. > :23:24.me and my swab mob have been You might want to watch this,

:23:25. > :23:28.because ice drinks feature heavily. We might be famous around the world

:23:29. > :23:38.for our love of tea, but many Brits are now switching allegiance to its

:23:39. > :23:41.cooler cousin, coffee. The UK coffee industry is currently growing faster

:23:42. > :23:46.than it has in the past ten years. Between us, we drink more than 2.3

:23:47. > :23:51.billion cups of the stuff every year. But the market remains

:23:52. > :23:54.dominated by the three big brands. Starbucks, Costa coffee and Caffe

:23:55. > :24:03.Nero, each of which usually has at least one store in every town.

:24:04. > :24:11.Costa, with 2121 stores, is by far the largest UK chain. Starbucks has

:24:12. > :24:15.898 and Caffe Nero 650. But you have been telling us that the quantity of

:24:16. > :24:23.these shops may not always mean quality when it comes to finding a

:24:24. > :24:29.clean place to eat or drink. Costa coffee's website says you can always

:24:30. > :24:34.be sure to find a clean table. But Mark, a regular visitor to his

:24:35. > :24:39.nearest branch, wouldn't agree. What is your concern with your local

:24:40. > :24:43.store? Most times, you find trays covered in spilled coffee or food on

:24:44. > :24:46.the floor like a half eaten sandwich, which is not nice if you

:24:47. > :24:53.are trying to sit down and read a book for ten minutes. Dirty tables.

:24:54. > :24:57.When Mark complained, he said he was given an extra 1000 points on his

:24:58. > :25:01.loyalty card. It was nice to get three points, but I would rather

:25:02. > :25:09.they cleaned the chairs and made sure the tables were clean and made

:25:10. > :25:12.it a nice environment. So how clean are the big names coffee shops? To

:25:13. > :25:19.test that out, we visited ten randomly selected branches of each

:25:20. > :25:22.of the three main chains - Costa, Starbucks and Caffe Nero. The law

:25:23. > :25:28.requires all areas in food serving premises to be kept clean. So, using

:25:29. > :25:31.swapping equipment, our team collected four samples at each

:25:32. > :25:35.branch they visited, then send them to a lab to check the levels of

:25:36. > :25:40.bacteria. The results were then reviewed by Tony Lewis, head of

:25:41. > :25:45.policy at the chartered Institute of environmental health. Is it feasible

:25:46. > :25:53.with the chains that have so many stores, for each of those stores to

:25:54. > :25:57.be clean? Yes. The expectation is that they should be. It is the same

:25:58. > :26:01.for any other food business. It doesn't matter whether to table tops

:26:02. > :26:09.or trays or anything else or the floor, the expectation is that they

:26:10. > :26:13.keep it clean. That may be the expectation, but is it what we

:26:14. > :26:18.found? We tested four key areas in each branch we visited, a table, a

:26:19. > :26:24.trade, a high chair and a sample of ice. Starting with the tables, just

:26:25. > :26:28.one of the ten samples from both Costa and Starbucks had a high

:26:29. > :26:33.bacteria count. Caffe Nero had three. But that is a good result,

:26:34. > :26:36.suggesting that most tables were being regularly cleaned. High chairs

:26:37. > :26:41.came off a little worse. Costa and Nero each had three samples with

:26:42. > :26:47.high bacteria counts, and Starbucks just two. What does a high level of

:26:48. > :26:52.bacteria mean? Bacteria is everywhere, and most bacteria is

:26:53. > :26:58.good. A high level of bacteria is indicative of a possible hygiene

:26:59. > :27:00.failure. So overall, reassuring results on the tables and

:27:01. > :27:05.highchairs, but trays were a different story. Here, our simples

:27:06. > :27:08.frequently showed high bacteria levels, indicating a lack of

:27:09. > :27:15.cleaning. Costa was the exception, with only one dirty tray out of ten.

:27:16. > :27:20.But there were six at Caffe Nero. And in Starbucks, nine out of the

:27:21. > :27:25.ten trays had high bacteria counts. We asked the lab to find out more

:27:26. > :27:28.about the type of bacteria lurking on our trays. Whilst most of the

:27:29. > :27:33.samples tested came back with bacteria that was harmless, three of

:27:34. > :27:38.the six trays from Caffe Nero that had a high bacteria count contained

:27:39. > :27:43.what scientists call faecal coliforms. And at very high levels.

:27:44. > :27:50.Here they are after incubating for a few days in the lab. Absolutely

:27:51. > :27:57.disgusting. What are they? The faecal bid indicates their source.

:27:58. > :28:01.They come from the gut. So what we are also looking at is failure of

:28:02. > :28:10.hygiene in relation to people when they go to the toilet. So you're

:28:11. > :28:14.right, it is disgusting. Is there any risk? Absolutely. If you're

:28:15. > :28:19.exposed to sufficiently high numbers and you ingest it and contaminate

:28:20. > :28:24.yourself by putting your fingers onto surfaces and enter your mouth,

:28:25. > :28:31.there is a risk of illness and disease that flows from that. Should

:28:32. > :28:37.customers be concerned? Absolutely. The expectation is that we go in and

:28:38. > :28:43.we are safe. But the most worrying results were on our samples of ice.

:28:44. > :28:46.Hygiene here is even more important, as unlike the surface areas we

:28:47. > :28:50.tested, ice is something you put straight in your mouth. Ice drinks

:28:51. > :28:54.are a huge growing market for coffee shops, with all three chains

:28:55. > :28:59.launching new ranges this summer. So we were shocked to be told by the

:29:00. > :29:02.lab that nearly half of our ice samples came back with significant

:29:03. > :29:08.levels of not just any old bacteria, but again, those faecal coliforms

:29:09. > :29:14.that Tony says are a real risk. It was in three of the Starbucks iced

:29:15. > :29:17.samples and three of Caffe Nero's. But most alarmingly, seven out of

:29:18. > :29:22.ten of the ice samples from Costa, the biggest coffee chain in the UK,

:29:23. > :29:26.contained significant levels of faecal bacteria. And yes, that is

:29:27. > :29:31.the very eyes used to make those new summer beverages.

:29:32. > :29:39.So many people buy those blended and iced drinks. The levels of faecal

:29:40. > :29:44.bacteria concerns me a lot. In relation to some of the bacteria you

:29:45. > :29:48.found, they are known as opportunistic pathogens, meaning

:29:49. > :29:52.they are dangerous. Pathogens are the source of human disease. And you

:29:53. > :30:01.have significant numbers. So there is concern, they should not be there

:30:02. > :30:04.at any level. In fact, so concerning did Tony consider our findings, that

:30:05. > :30:08.he advised us to contact environmental health for them to

:30:09. > :30:12.investigate further. When we ran the results pass choppers in Manchester

:30:13. > :30:17.they were not impressed. We found high levels of faecal bacteria in

:30:18. > :30:26.the ice cubes. What?! Really?! Seriously. That's disgusting. That's

:30:27. > :30:33.put me off. Wow. I'm not going to finish my drink, am I? STUDIO: That

:30:34. > :30:36.is horrible! How does bacteria get on the ice?

:30:37. > :30:39.They've said the most likely way is probably staff members not

:30:40. > :30:41.washing their hands properly after going to the loo,

:30:42. > :30:51.Did you ever imagine I would ask you to scoop some ice? Do this for me.

:30:52. > :30:54.So we've got an ice machine here, similar to the ones used

:30:55. > :30:58.And if you want to give it a go, you'll see

:30:59. > :31:01.if you're not careful, it's easy to end up getting your

:31:02. > :31:03.If you haven't washed your hands properly,

:31:04. > :31:06.even if you don't end up touching the ice, you'll have

:31:07. > :31:08.touched the scoop - which does touch the ice.

:31:09. > :31:10.So what are they going to do about it?

:31:11. > :31:14.Costa think the contamination is down to the ice scoop being stored

:31:15. > :31:18.with the ice. They have taken immediate action.

:31:19. > :31:20.Updating their ice handling guide to provide very specific operational

:31:21. > :31:23.guidelines, which include storing the ice scoop outside the ice well.

:31:24. > :31:25.They've sent that to all their branches, and are also

:31:26. > :31:29.in the process of sending out new ice scoop holders.

:31:30. > :31:33.The stores we visited have already received those,

:31:34. > :31:35.and additionally had all their equipment deep cleaned

:31:36. > :31:43.They have done lots about it, what about Starbucks and Caffe Nero?

:31:44. > :31:45.All three chains have been very proactive on this.

:31:46. > :31:47.They've stressed how importantly they take hygiene and cleanliness,

:31:48. > :31:49.highlighting the high ratings most branches achieve on this,

:31:50. > :31:51.and outlining their processes to ensure everything

:31:52. > :31:57.Caffe Nero and Starbucks told us they've moved quickly

:31:58. > :32:01.Caffe Nero promises appropriate action will be taken.

:32:02. > :32:07.And Starbucks says all employees nationwide have

:32:08. > :32:09.received updated training, not just on the ice -

:32:10. > :32:11.which it says staff should never touch by hand -

:32:12. > :32:26.And wash your hands when you go to the toilet. Good work by the swap

:32:27. > :32:28.mob. Good luck if you were watching that while eating your teeth. The

:32:29. > :32:33.Schmidt eating your tea. And our Swab Mob hasn't just

:32:34. > :32:35.been swabbing cafes. We'll be revealing the dirty secrets

:32:36. > :32:38.of a different industry next week. Is the airline deliberately

:32:39. > :32:41.splitting up passengers who didn't In tonight's Rogue Traders,

:32:42. > :32:46.we're having a look at EnergySave of Ilkeston, Derbyshire -

:32:47. > :32:48.not to be confused with They offer an external wall

:32:49. > :32:53.paint that they claim can knock up to 35% off

:32:54. > :32:55.your heating bills. Our undercover operative

:32:56. > :33:00.David is working there. And he's about to put them well

:33:01. > :33:11.and truly in the picture. Training manager Phil Eremenko is

:33:12. > :33:12.teaching our undercover stooge how to make the right first

:33:13. > :33:24.impression... How does a nice salesman get into an

:33:25. > :33:41.old lady's house? Would a vampire tell customers about

:33:42. > :33:42.their rights to a cooling off period? It's in the company's

:33:43. > :33:52.training literature? You wouldn't want them knowing they

:33:53. > :33:56.have a legal right to change their minds about forking out thousands of

:33:57. > :34:03.pounds. What about the product they sell? The manager will now

:34:04. > :34:04.demonstrate the benefits of the product in a clear and concise

:34:05. > :34:43.manner, super easy to follow. Clearly that all makes sense! I'm

:34:44. > :34:52.utterly convinced. Apparently, he isn't.

:34:53. > :34:57.Unbelievable, but it's a claim printed in their training materials.

:34:58. > :35:06.Next he gives us a pretty confusing demonstration. Look at that. What is

:35:07. > :35:12.that showing us? We need an expert. Barry Cross knows everything about

:35:13. > :35:14.walls. If Oasis had only spoken to him before they wrote Wonderwall,

:35:15. > :35:20.they wouldn't be wondering any more. What does he make of EnergySave's

:35:21. > :35:24.demonstration kit? What we are supposed to do here, the water is

:35:25. > :35:30.being absorbed on this site, but this side with the product on it,

:35:31. > :35:37.they are standing proud like duels. The water is being absorbed into the

:35:38. > :35:42.brick and then will evaporate out again and that's the design of every

:35:43. > :35:46.house brick in the country. Is there any way at all that some kind of

:35:47. > :35:51.external cream can improve the thermal qualities of a brick wall?

:35:52. > :35:56.It simply doesn't, in my view, improve the insulation to the wall.

:35:57. > :36:00.So if we were to find a traditionally built brick house

:36:01. > :36:04.without any problems from damp or anything else, there would be no

:36:05. > :36:09.need for a product like this? Absolutely no need at all. In that

:36:10. > :36:15.case, that's what we'll do. Have you seen our house? We called out and

:36:16. > :36:22.EnergySave salesman. Barry is ready. Through the door comes the salesman

:36:23. > :36:23.Rob Atwood, one of EnergySave's top guys. What exactly is he trying to

:36:24. > :36:30.sell us? Unbelievable, completely

:36:31. > :37:12.unbelievable. But this house is very well

:37:13. > :37:18.insulated, so why would we need this? That's enough sitting around.

:37:19. > :37:19.Rob needs to check the walls. He has some bad news about the state of the

:37:20. > :37:46.brickwork. But that's exactly what you do,

:37:47. > :37:46.isn't it, Rob? What's the damage to our wallet for this unnecessary

:37:47. > :38:02.products? Really! I'm struggling with that to

:38:03. > :38:29.be honest. That's your cue to leave, mate. But

:38:30. > :38:35.he doesn't leave, instead he makes a call to a manager in his office.

:38:36. > :38:41.What?! His manager, surprise surprise, has come back with a

:38:42. > :39:06.fantastic offer. That's a shame! After 62 minutes,

:39:07. > :39:31.he's still here. I thought he'd never give up. Here's

:39:32. > :39:35.a question, has this salesman decided to sell this way all by

:39:36. > :39:41.himself, or is he receiving messages from above? Training Guru Phil

:39:42. > :39:56.Eremenko gives our undercover operative the drill.

:39:57. > :40:03.That's cleared that up! There is no tomorrow for elderly people in their

:40:04. > :40:07.own homes to have a bit more time to make huge financial decisions. Back

:40:08. > :40:14.in the house, what does Barry think? This is a house in good condition,

:40:15. > :40:20.well insulated. Why would they try to sell us a product for ?4000 that

:40:21. > :40:28.would have no significant benefit? Albee honest, I don't really know!

:40:29. > :40:33.-- I will be honest. It beats me. I guess the bosses fancy cars don't

:40:34. > :40:39.pay for themselves. The Bentley, Maserati and Ferrari. He even has a

:40:40. > :40:41.Ferrari coffee cup, which he didn't appreciate our undercover operative

:40:42. > :40:50.drinking at all! Nothing like the threat of physical

:40:51. > :40:58.violence to make the new boy feel welcome. STUDIO: I'm certainly

:40:59. > :41:05.looking forward to meeting him in person in about ten minutes! Nikki

:41:06. > :41:11.Fox, what's in the inbox? Smart meters have struck a chord with

:41:12. > :41:15.everybody on social media. A lot of people asking, are smart meters

:41:16. > :41:24.compulsory? They are not compulsory, but they have benefits. Regarding

:41:25. > :41:33.our delightful coffee. I imagine that's got everybody going. Tracy

:41:34. > :41:35.sums it up when she says, yuck yuck. Product safety in people's minds.

:41:36. > :41:38.And Darryl Tallantyre is one of the people to contact us

:41:39. > :41:41.about the fridge freezer that's been linked to the horrendous

:41:42. > :41:45.He wants to know if manufacturer Hotpoint can reassure the 64,000

:41:46. > :41:52.The company's told us it's working with the authorities to get access

:41:53. > :41:55.to the appliance to assist with the ongoing investigations,

:41:56. > :41:58.and it can't speculate on further details at this time.

:41:59. > :42:00.But it says anyone who believes they have either

:42:01. > :42:06.the FF175 BP or BG models - manufactured by Indesit

:42:07. > :42:14.between 2006 and 2009 - can call Freephone 0800 316 3826

:42:15. > :42:18.to register their details so the company can contact them

:42:19. > :42:25.And that is one of the benefits of registering, that

:42:26. > :42:28.if there is a problem with a model you own, they can get

:42:29. > :42:30.in touch, repair it, recall it, whatever it takes.

:42:31. > :42:37.I thought airlines were supposed to bring people together.

:42:38. > :42:39.You've been hearing from people who feel that Ryanair has

:42:40. > :42:49.We have our own airline going on here. People asking for duty-free.

:42:50. > :42:52.Yes, Ryanair is a company that's no stranger to controversy,

:42:53. > :42:55.You might remember back in 2014, the airline

:42:56. > :42:57.promised to change its ways with its Always Getting

:42:58. > :43:01.As part of this, it brought in allocated seating

:43:02. > :43:03.to stop the free-for-all when you get on board.

:43:04. > :43:06.So you either pay to guarantee where you sit, or you don't

:43:07. > :43:13.and you're allocated seating at check-in from whatever's left.

:43:14. > :43:19.We have some Ryanair customers with us. Appropriately named Ryan. You

:43:20. > :43:23.were a big fan of them but you are now getting annoyed. We would fly

:43:24. > :43:27.maybe once or twice a month and checking in a couple of days before

:43:28. > :43:32.flying. Every time everybody in the booking was getting sat together.

:43:33. > :43:37.Maybe a couple of months ago, opposite ends of the plane.

:43:38. > :43:43.Literally. You have noticed a real change then. Why not pay for

:43:44. > :43:48.allocated seating? It's kind of not the point. I feel like it's a bit

:43:49. > :43:52.deceitful. Just a couple of days before you fly you then have to pay

:43:53. > :43:57.for each person to sit next to each other. Linda, you went with your

:43:58. > :44:01.mates to Barcelona. What happened? Again, I went to check us in online.

:44:02. > :44:05.For the last three years we have flown to Barcelona as a group of six

:44:06. > :44:09.and each time we got seats together. This time all six of us were middle

:44:10. > :44:15.seats separated through the plane. That must have been a nightmare!

:44:16. > :44:20.Shouting at each other. But we still had a fantastic time. And you are

:44:21. > :44:24.still recovering! Philip, you have worked in the industry a long time.

:44:25. > :44:28.You and your wife were separated on a flight to stop that's right. We

:44:29. > :44:31.booked in at the first opportunity on the same booking reference. The

:44:32. > :44:37.seats came up and we were at opposite ends of the aircraft. Was

:44:38. > :44:41.that a good or bad thing? I did ask if she wanted to pay the extra. She

:44:42. > :44:47.did say yes! Given your experience in the industry, using its not

:44:48. > :44:51.right? It's totally not right, it has to be a deliberate ploy. Even

:44:52. > :44:54.randomly seating, it's not going to keep happening. We have put it to

:44:55. > :44:57.the test. Over the last few weeks, dozens

:44:58. > :45:00.of you have been in touch convinced there's been a change in how Ryanair

:45:01. > :45:03.allocates its seats. So to put that to the test, we

:45:04. > :45:13.booked some flights for ourselves. We booked a group of four

:45:14. > :45:17.researchers onto four separate flights. Right from the off, we

:45:18. > :45:22.could see from the plan of the website which seats were free. But

:45:23. > :45:25.we didn't pay the extra fee to reserve any together. Instead, we

:45:26. > :45:31.opted to be allocated seats once the online check-in opened, four days

:45:32. > :45:35.before departure. Our first flight was from Manchester to Brussels.

:45:36. > :45:39.Just before check-in, the seat plan clearly had plenty of empty seats

:45:40. > :45:44.available, shown here in blue. Despite that, a group of four were

:45:45. > :45:51.all given seats entirely separately, scattered in middle seats across the

:45:52. > :45:54.plain, shown here in green. Right up to boarding, we could have paid

:45:55. > :45:58.extra to move seats and all be together. Perhaps that is what

:45:59. > :46:03.Ryanair hoped we might do after splitting us up. But because we

:46:04. > :46:07.didn't do that, we were left sitting apart. Even though, as you can see,

:46:08. > :46:13.on the flight itself there were still empty seats beside us. The

:46:14. > :46:16.same was true on the return flight. When we checked in, all four

:46:17. > :46:20.researchers were split across the plain in middle seats, despite

:46:21. > :46:23.they're still being loads of seats available together. And talking to

:46:24. > :46:29.fellow passengers, it was clear we were not the only ones to find that.

:46:30. > :46:33.There were seats, but it is like they deliberately don't sit you

:46:34. > :46:36.together so you are forced to pay. That is not fat. If they have seats

:46:37. > :46:41.available together, let us check in together. We also booked return

:46:42. > :46:47.flight to Dublin. Again, the team were spread throughout the plane, or

:46:48. > :46:50.on a middle seat. But there had been plenty of seats together we could

:46:51. > :46:54.have been allocated at the time we checked in. A travel agent Lofton

:46:55. > :47:01.books groups onto flights reckons she can pinpoint the exact date when

:47:02. > :47:04.things changed - David 50 this year. So will Ryanair admit to

:47:05. > :47:07.deliberately separating people on its planes -- May the 5th, this

:47:08. > :47:08.year. So, four flights,

:47:09. > :47:09.four researchers. All split into middle

:47:10. > :47:11.seats across the plane. With us is Dr Jennifer Rogers,

:47:12. > :47:15.a statistician at the What are the chances this

:47:16. > :47:21.was just random allocation? I looked at the number of window,

:47:22. > :47:24.aisle and middle seats available at the time of check-in for each

:47:25. > :47:28.of your flights and using this data was able to calculate the chances

:47:29. > :47:31.of all four being given middle seats on all four flights

:47:32. > :47:34.under random allocation. This probability works out to be

:47:35. > :47:40.around 1 to 540 million If you consider your chances

:47:41. > :47:45.of winning the jackpot on the National Lottery are around 1

:47:46. > :47:48.to 45 million, this means that you are more than 10 times more

:47:49. > :47:51.likely to win the lottery than you are for this scenario

:47:52. > :47:53.to happen just by chance. So there's more chance of winning

:47:54. > :47:56.the lottery 10 times. I met up with Ryanair's head

:47:57. > :48:19.of marketing, Kenny Jacobs, Well, we will be finding out what

:48:20. > :48:24.the boss of Ryanair... I wonder if he has done a runner? Don't worry, I

:48:25. > :48:29.pre-recorded it and he is definitely there. But it is interesting about

:48:30. > :48:35.the numbers. We have got him. Here is Kenny. Kenny, why do you separate

:48:36. > :48:40.people who are travelling together when there are seats available next

:48:41. > :48:44.to them? We don't separate people travelling together. There is no

:48:45. > :48:48.smoking gun to this story. Our policy has been the same since 2014,

:48:49. > :48:55.when we introduced reserved seating. That policy has not changed. What is

:48:56. > :49:00.happening at the moment is two things. We are about to enter the

:49:01. > :49:02.peak of the summer travel season, when our flights are at their

:49:03. > :49:07.fullest. So our average load factor is 95% but in the pick of summer,

:49:08. > :49:13.all of our flights are very full. Over the past few years, more and

:49:14. > :49:17.more of Ryanair customers are wanting to reserve seats. When

:49:18. > :49:20.people reserve seats, the number one seat they prefer is window seats and

:49:21. > :49:24.then I'll seats. Several customers who don't choose to reserve a seat,

:49:25. > :49:29.the seat they will be randomly allocated is most likely... Randomly

:49:30. > :49:32.allocated is what I am concerned about because we had four

:49:33. > :49:36.researchers travelling on four flights. On none of those flights

:49:37. > :49:41.were they sitting together, yet when they checked in, there were seats

:49:42. > :49:43.available next to them. That is not random. We ate a statistician about

:49:44. > :49:49.the survey said the chances of that being random is one in 543 million.

:49:50. > :49:58.Something has changed. I am not going to get into stats. It is run.

:49:59. > :50:05.-- it is random. But the complaint have increased. Four is a small

:50:06. > :50:08.number. Every day, Ryanair carries over 400,000 people. We are not

:50:09. > :50:12.seeing a big increase in complaints. It is simply the time of year which

:50:13. > :50:16.is at the busiest peak of travel and more and more people are choosing to

:50:17. > :50:21.reserve seats. The kids under 12, they get free reserved seats. So if

:50:22. > :50:26.you have a family with kids under 12, they go for free. The parents

:50:27. > :50:31.will just have to reserve a seat. But surely it is not random, because

:50:32. > :50:34.it is happening too often. Over the past three years, we have introduced

:50:35. > :50:39.the Always Getting Better programme. We have changed more for our

:50:40. > :50:43.customers than any other airline. We have introduced reserved seating.

:50:44. > :50:49.Are you trying to make more money out of them? Then we would simply

:50:50. > :50:53.increase the fares. Ryanair have a reputation for bad customer service.

:50:54. > :50:56.It feels like you are being dead nasty. Why can't people who check in

:50:57. > :51:05.together sit together? The majority of our customers asked if they could

:51:06. > :51:10.pick the seats they want. But why can't the people who have not picked

:51:11. > :51:14.them sit together? Villa then why have reserved seating for the other

:51:15. > :51:17.customers? This is not about annoying customers. We have stopped

:51:18. > :51:22.doing that. This is about most of our customers wanting to reserve a

:51:23. > :51:27.seat. They mostly want to reserve a window seat or an aisle seat. In the

:51:28. > :51:29.peak summer months, there are less seats to be allocated to those

:51:30. > :51:33.farmers who want a random seat. If they don't like a seat, all they

:51:34. > :51:40.have to do is pay 2 euros to reserve a seat. Our average fare in the UK

:51:41. > :51:45.is ?35. So it is about having the lowest fares and letting customers

:51:46. > :51:46.choose the seat that they want. Kenny, thank you for explaining

:51:47. > :51:51.this. There you go, Watchdog really is

:51:52. > :51:59.life. Next though, take your

:52:00. > :52:01.allocated seat for our final visit to EnergySave -

:52:02. > :52:03.the company you'll recall that's admitted to making false claims

:52:04. > :52:14.and targetting old ladies. Out there, Derbyshire. In here, we

:52:15. > :52:19.are getting ready to go to the offices of EnergySave the meet,

:52:20. > :52:26.hopefully, Jason Rowan and talk to him about his company. Serious

:52:27. > :52:30.questions coming up. By the time and EnergySave's Bossa arrives, we are

:52:31. > :52:34.parked up and ready to meet him. Jason Rowan, Matt Allwright, BBC

:52:35. > :52:39.rogue traders, how are you? You when a despicable company that targets

:52:40. > :52:41.the over 55s. We have seen evidence that you take people with

:52:42. > :52:47.Alzheimer's and take money from them and even when you are aware that

:52:48. > :52:50.they have Alzheimer's, you go back for another go and try and get money

:52:51. > :52:56.out of them. If that anyway to a business? Is the only way you have

:52:57. > :53:00.paid for your Bentley and your Maserati and your Ferrari by taking

:53:01. > :53:05.money from vulnerable people and targeting the over 55s? Let me carry

:53:06. > :53:08.on talking to you. You have aggressive sales practices, trying

:53:09. > :53:17.to sell people things they will never need. Let me talk. Go ahead.

:53:18. > :53:28.We have witnessed your policies. Misleading sales practices. Why

:53:29. > :53:33.would we hide our conversation from the British public, who need to

:53:34. > :53:41.understand the way you operate? It is despicable. The way you are

:53:42. > :53:46.taking money from vulnerable people. Customers are happy with the

:53:47. > :53:53.product. But you are massively misleading about the energy-saving

:53:54. > :54:00.bills. It saves up to 30%. You can't believe that. It is a paint that

:54:01. > :54:06.goes on the outside. Your science is rubbish. Says you. Yes, because that

:54:07. > :54:10.is what experts told us. We also say the way you sell this product is

:54:11. > :54:15.shameful. What we have heard is that a woman with Alzheimer's was visited

:54:16. > :54:19.by one of your sales reps. The carer was there on the sales rep was told

:54:20. > :54:24.to go away. Somebody from your company then came back and completed

:54:25. > :54:28.the deal afterwards. I am astounded by that. You have to take

:54:29. > :54:33.responsibility for the actions of this company. I take responsibility.

:54:34. > :54:39.We have witnessed one of your leading sales men behaving in a

:54:40. > :54:43.pressure sales manner. He sat with a woman and even when she said, I need

:54:44. > :54:48.to think about this, he pushed on. He made the phone call to the

:54:49. > :54:52.manager, classic technique. And you are presumably continuing to reward

:54:53. > :54:57.bad behaviour. It all comes back to you because it is your company. Do

:54:58. > :55:03.you understand that? What are you going to do? I am going to look into

:55:04. > :55:11.it. You have taken me unawares. This is happening every day. And it all

:55:12. > :55:18.comes back to you. No further comment. Who are you? That is my

:55:19. > :55:22.general manager. We do have is we have been asked, but how can Jason

:55:23. > :55:26.really have no idea what his sales team gets up to? As you could see in

:55:27. > :55:29.there, Jason Rowan tries to separate himself from the company and the

:55:30. > :55:33.culture we have seen, a culture which is making life a misery for a

:55:34. > :55:38.lot of people for whom it is already difficult. We are not prepared to

:55:39. > :55:40.let that continue. That's why we wanted to get the message through to

:55:41. > :55:43.EnergySave today. Well, Jason Rowan, Energysave's

:55:44. > :55:45.director, has since told us he's extremely concerned

:55:46. > :55:47.about our allegations, which he insists are not

:55:48. > :55:49.representative of the way claiming that the people

:55:50. > :55:53.we featured in the film were mainly subcontractors,

:55:54. > :55:55.and that he's suspended relationships with them

:55:56. > :55:56.while he carries out significantly in training its sales

:55:57. > :56:02.reps to ensure such issues don't arise -

:56:03. > :56:04.and he doesn't condone racist or manipulative behaviour by anyone

:56:05. > :56:06.associated with the company. And he still says the product

:56:07. > :56:09.is scientifically proven to work, sending evidence which

:56:10. > :56:11.he says backs that up. However, there is something

:56:12. > :56:17.else quite troubling. EnergySave were signed up as members

:56:18. > :56:22.of the Which Trusted Trader scheme, which is supposed to vet

:56:23. > :56:26.the businesses you deal with. They had investigated

:56:27. > :56:28.and expelled EnergySave But the question remains,

:56:29. > :56:33.how did they get signed Which told us it carries

:56:34. > :56:40.out multiple checks before endorsing a trader,

:56:41. > :56:43.and then make regular assessments to ensure ongoing compliance,

:56:44. > :56:45.and ensure people stick However, if you've experienced

:56:46. > :56:49.a Which Trusted Trader or a member of any approval scheme

:56:50. > :57:05.that we should know Now, we are getting lots of

:57:06. > :57:10.comments. Please keep getting in touch. Go to the website,

:57:11. > :57:11.bbc.co.uk/watchdog. Just click where it

:57:12. > :57:14.says "Send us a story". Or if you want to send us

:57:15. > :57:16.a letter, the address Thanks to everyone who's been

:57:17. > :57:20.in touch while we've been live I have been working my socks off and

:57:21. > :57:31.I am not even wearing them. What are the highlights

:57:32. > :57:44.and low lights? On Twitter, lots of people are not

:57:45. > :57:48.convinced by Ryanair's answer. Declan says four couples flying to

:57:49. > :57:51.the same location with Ryanair were all allocated random middle seats,

:57:52. > :57:58.separately even though there are three seats next to them. And Kay

:57:59. > :58:02.said, glad Watchdog is talking about smart meters. We have had nothing

:58:03. > :58:08.but problems. There have been a few of those coming in about smart

:58:09. > :58:12.meters. If anyone is having problems with that, it is worth getting in

:58:13. > :58:19.touch with good or bad experiences. It is not all about the bad stuff.

:58:20. > :58:21.And the coffee story? I thought there would be a few more hashtags.

:58:22. > :58:24.We'll be back live at 8 o'clock next Wednesday

:58:25. > :58:27.with a test to see if one of Britain's biggest names

:58:28. > :58:30.is offering new customers a service it knows it can?t deliver.

:58:31. > :58:33.And Nick Hewer will be asking if the banks always play fair

:58:34. > :58:35.with people who've been scammed out of tens of thousands of pounds.

:58:36. > :58:52.We're not going to get out of this one, are we?