:00:12. > :00:17.On today's Crimewatch Roadshow, the scam turning a visit to the
:00:18. > :00:27.supermarket into a nightmare. There are cases reported every week. Help
:00:28. > :00:38.
:00:38. > :00:42.us catch one of the gangs Welcome to this morning's programme.
:00:42. > :00:45.We have got a packed show for you, but we won't catch any crooks
:00:45. > :00:51.without your help. Coming up today: A school left in ashes. Police need
:00:51. > :00:57.to know who started the fire. Metal thieves are ripping community
:00:57. > :01:01.halls and churches to pieces. We are out with the police trying to
:01:01. > :01:04.crack down on one of the biggest crimes of our times.
:01:04. > :01:06.And who is looking over your shoulder when you use your PIN
:01:06. > :01:09.number? Can you really keep it safe?
:01:09. > :01:13.Today we have moved into a new country. We are heading into Wales
:01:13. > :01:16.where we are hooking up with Gwent and South Wales forces. We' are
:01:16. > :01:21.starting right on the border. Miriam O'Reilly is in Chepstow. So
:01:21. > :01:31.Miriam, are you actually in England or Wales there?
:01:31. > :01:33.
:01:33. > :01:36.You can see Chepstow Castle over there. That is in Wales. Behind me,
:01:36. > :01:39.the River Wye marks the border between these two countries. So,
:01:39. > :01:49.technically speaking we are in England. But for our last three
:01:49. > :01:49.
:01:49. > :01:52.days on-air, we are working alongside two Welsh police forces.
:01:52. > :01:55.Now, on to our first appeal. This crime happened here in Chepstow,
:01:55. > :01:58.but it is happening in supermarket car parks right across the UK.
:01:58. > :02:03.It was just the regular weekly shop when Maureen Trip became the latest
:02:03. > :02:08.victim of this scam plaguing the country. I had just finished work,
:02:08. > :02:12.went to my local Tesco's to do shopping. I walked round, bought
:02:12. > :02:15.all my bits and pieces, went to the checkout, paid, then went out to
:02:15. > :02:25.the car park, unloaded my trolley, put the trolley back in the trolley
:02:25. > :02:36.
:02:36. > :02:44.As I went back to the car, a chap approached me and asked me for
:02:44. > :02:47.directions. Excuse me, can you show me how to
:02:47. > :02:52.get to Leysester. He wanted Leicester. He pronounced
:02:52. > :02:56.it Leysester. Do you mean Leicester?
:02:56. > :03:01.Yes, Leysester. He got out a map and spread it over
:03:01. > :03:07.the back window. So we were looking and I was showing him the way. I am
:03:07. > :03:11.possibly the worst person to ask for directions. And I had to
:03:11. > :03:20.explain to him several times how to get there and I thought, he has got
:03:20. > :03:29.a map, why doesn't he use the map? Thank you, thank you. I drove out
:03:29. > :03:33.of the car park. As I was driving out of the car park, I noticed a
:03:33. > :03:37.black BMW a couple of cars in front of me turn left into the staff car
:03:37. > :03:41.park. I was aware that the chap in the back seat leaned forward and
:03:41. > :03:44.looked right at me. It was the man that asked me for directions. I
:03:44. > :03:48.thought they wanted to go to Leicester, what are they doing in
:03:48. > :03:52.the staff car park? Anyway, I didn't think any more of it. I went
:03:52. > :03:54.home. Later on that evening my husband was checking online our
:03:54. > :03:57.bank account. Did you draw �300 out of your
:03:57. > :04:07.account today at Tesco's? No, why would I?
:04:07. > :04:08.
:04:08. > :04:14.Well, somebody has. Better check your purse. My card has gone.
:04:14. > :04:20.My card had gone. But how does this scam work? How was Maureen's card
:04:20. > :04:24.and PIN number taken? While I was talking to the chap trying to
:04:24. > :04:28.explain directions to him, he looked over my shoulder a couple of
:04:28. > :04:33.times behind me and I thought, what's he looking at? I turned
:04:33. > :04:36.round once and looked and I was aware there was a lady. I did not
:04:36. > :04:39.think much of it at the time, then I thought afterwards maybe he
:04:39. > :04:45.distracted me and she was the one that actually went round the
:04:45. > :04:49.passenger side and got in the car. Because of the way I was stood, I
:04:49. > :04:59.couldn't see inside the car. I didn't hear anybody open the door.
:04:59. > :05:03.
:05:03. > :05:10.The criminals then used the card at the nearest cash machine to
:05:10. > :05:13.withdraw money. I have thought quite a lot about it since the
:05:13. > :05:20.episode and I can't understand how they managed to get my PIN number.
:05:20. > :05:27.I was in the queue on my own. There was nobody behind me. There was
:05:27. > :05:35.nobody at the checkout next to me. It has been suggested to me people
:05:35. > :05:38.could have used their mobile phone and taken a quick shot of me. It's
:05:38. > :05:42.not unusual these days for people to be carrying their mobile phones
:05:42. > :05:46.round supermarkets. We are naturally concerned about this
:05:46. > :05:51.emerging crime pattern. We would like to stress this isn't confined
:05:51. > :05:54.to Chepstow. It is actually a nationwide problem. We ask people
:05:54. > :05:57.to be guarded when using cash cards, chip and PIN devices and cashpoint
:05:57. > :06:04.machines, to make sure nobody is standing close by that could read
:06:04. > :06:07.their number. I was quite shocked afterwards. I felt a bit silly.
:06:07. > :06:11.They are obviously very clever people that worked it all out very
:06:11. > :06:19.well because I was totally unaware of what was going on, but I will be
:06:19. > :06:21.now. We would ask people, no matter how
:06:21. > :06:25.small or insignificant they think any information they have is, to
:06:25. > :06:29.contact us. By withdrawing cash and buying items online, the gang
:06:29. > :06:38.managed to fleece Maureen out of �500. But it could have been so
:06:38. > :06:43.much worse. Maureen Trip, the victim of that crime is with me.
:06:43. > :06:48.You felt uncomfortable when it was going on, it was only later when
:06:48. > :06:53.you check your account that he knew that money was gone. Why did you
:06:53. > :07:00.feel uncomfortable? Well, as he asked me for directions but he had
:07:00. > :07:05.a map, which seemed strange. He kept glancing over my shoulder, it
:07:06. > :07:11.seemed a bit odd. His behaviour was on. What was his description
:07:11. > :07:16.because you remember him clearly? would say he was Mediterranean,
:07:16. > :07:22.dart here, a fairly small and slim, 5 ft 8, jeans, white shirt and
:07:22. > :07:28.jacket. You're very careful with your PIN number. They got hold of
:07:28. > :07:33.it somehow. I do not know how, but I now have the PIN number all the
:07:33. > :07:38.time without fail. All of this week we are joined by Louise Elliott
:07:38. > :07:44.from BBC Wales. She is with the investigating officer. Thank you,
:07:44. > :07:48.Inspector Mike Boycott, the figures on these crimes are incredible. For
:07:48. > :07:54.every day of the year, �1 million is stolen in card fraud. What are
:07:54. > :07:59.you doing about it? Incidents of this right -- incidents of this
:07:59. > :08:04.nature are very rare in Gwent, but anyone who notices any and usual
:08:04. > :08:09.activity on their card should reported to the police.
:08:09. > :08:14.understand you have CCTV stills of the gang members? Yes, we're very
:08:14. > :08:19.keen to trace this individual, because we know he used the stolen
:08:19. > :08:24.car at the cash. To obtain money. If anyone knows where he is, we
:08:24. > :08:27.would ask you to contact us straightaway. How can we protect
:08:27. > :08:33.ourselves? Maureen made the point that she had no idea she was being
:08:33. > :08:37.watched when she was putting in her PIN number? It is very important
:08:37. > :08:41.that anyone who is using a card at a cashpoint or cash machine become
:08:41. > :08:44.aware of people around them. They should protect their PIN number by
:08:44. > :08:50.shielding it with their hands or their body and make sure that
:08:50. > :08:57.nobody sees the PIN number going in. If they see anything unusual, they
:08:57. > :09:02.should report it to the police straight away. Thank you, Inspector,
:09:02. > :09:06.the numbers are on our screens. Overnight to Rav with our Wanted
:09:06. > :09:09.Faces today. Let's take a look at who we have
:09:09. > :09:12.got for you today. Do you recognise this man, Ronald Brian Grimes? He
:09:12. > :09:16.was convicted of robbery and assault in May 2004 and jailed for
:09:16. > :09:19.seven and a half years. But when he was released early on licence he
:09:19. > :09:22.failed to keep to his conditions and is now wanted back in jail.
:09:22. > :09:25.Grimes has a Liverpudlian accent and scars on his left arm. He also
:09:25. > :09:29.has Chinese letter tattoos on both arms. Have you seen him recently?
:09:29. > :09:32.If so, please let us know. And take a look at this man. 67-
:09:32. > :09:34.year-old Peter Miveld is wanted by police in connection with a large
:09:34. > :09:37.scale money laundering operation, linked to the sale of controlled
:09:37. > :09:41.drugs. He has connections to Merseyside as well as Cyprus and
:09:41. > :09:44.Spain. He has tattoos on his arms of an eagle and a sacred heart with
:09:44. > :09:48.the words "mum and dad". Do you know where he is now? If so, give
:09:48. > :09:50.us a call. Do you know this man? Balkar Singh Dhesi. Police in
:09:50. > :09:53.Leicestershire want to talk to him about a money laundering case
:09:53. > :09:56.involving over �200,000. He is known to have connections to the
:09:56. > :09:59.London and Leicester areas and police want your help to track him
:09:59. > :10:09.down. And if you know where this man is, Terence McGinley, then
:10:09. > :10:12.please don't approach him. If he is believed to be violent. He is
:10:12. > :10:14.wanted on a European arrest warrant in connection with two charges of
:10:14. > :10:18.conspiracy to blackmail. McGinley is a member of the travelling
:10:18. > :10:21.community, and has a southern Irish accent. He sports a number of scars
:10:21. > :10:24.on the left side of his face, right eyebrow, nose and right wrist. Do
:10:24. > :10:28.you know where he is? If you recognise any of these faces, the
:10:28. > :10:31.number to call is 08000 468 999. Or text us on 63399. Text CW, space
:10:31. > :10:35.and then your message. Please leave the space or your message will not
:10:35. > :10:39.get through. Or email us. Do not forget, all the Wanted Faces from
:10:39. > :10:43.the series are on our website. Now, we are in the area covered by
:10:43. > :10:48.South Wales and Gwent forces for the rest of the week. Here's Louise
:10:48. > :10:55.with a look at the challenges local police face.
:10:55. > :10:58.Cross the Severn Bridges and you are into the busiest part of Wales.
:10:59. > :11:01.As you travel down the M4, Gwent and then South Wales Police are the
:11:01. > :11:07.forces keeping an eye on things. Between them, they cover around
:11:07. > :11:13.two-thirds of the entire population of Wales. So that means that they
:11:13. > :11:15.share resources, including this state-of-the-art helicopter. With
:11:15. > :11:18.its combination of cutting edge technology and highly-trained crew,
:11:18. > :11:27.the helicopter is invaluable when it comes to tracking down missing
:11:27. > :11:31.people, fugitives and drug runners. Listen up, listen up!
:11:31. > :11:36.The unique thing about Wales is we have a helicopter that we share
:11:36. > :11:39.with South Wales Police. The teams come from South Wales and Gwent
:11:39. > :11:42.Police so the officers that are on that team understand the policing
:11:42. > :11:44.dynamics of both force areas. South Wales has a strong history of
:11:45. > :11:54.industry and farming, and is made up of ex-mining towns, rural
:11:54. > :11:57.villages and coastal cities. The vast majority of the crime in the
:11:57. > :12:02.Gwent and South Wales areas happens in the big urban centres. That is
:12:03. > :12:05.Newport, Swansea and right here in Cardiff. Chief Constable Peter
:12:06. > :12:07.Vaughan is the man in charge of the challenges facing South Wales
:12:08. > :12:11.Police. Last year we dealt with almost an
:12:11. > :12:16.incident every minute of every day. We have got a proud tradition of
:12:16. > :12:19.driving crime down within the area, dealing with major events. We
:12:19. > :12:25.anticipate the demand for policing major events is going to go up with
:12:25. > :12:28.Swansea going into the Premiership. Apologies to anyone from Reading
:12:28. > :12:31.who is watching this! With 186 events to police last year,
:12:32. > :12:37.and over 12 million visitors to the capital, it is an ongoing challenge
:12:37. > :12:43.because not all these visitors are welcome. Organised crime groups are
:12:43. > :12:52.trying to get a foothold within Cardiff and Swansea. And the valley
:12:52. > :12:54.communities and other city centres and town centres. Go! Police!
:12:54. > :13:03.disruptive influence that drug misuse can have on our communities
:13:03. > :13:06.is all too apparent. Police! Anyone here? The officers
:13:06. > :13:16.have gone upstairs to see if the suspect they want is up there.
:13:16. > :13:16.
:13:16. > :13:23.In neighbouring Gwent, Chief Constable Carmel Napier has to
:13:23. > :13:25.constantly juggle which crimes to prioritise. We have seen more
:13:25. > :13:27.property-related crime. We have actually targeted our specialist
:13:27. > :13:30.resources working closely with neighbouring policing teams and
:13:30. > :13:38.local authority resources to both reduce them and to capture the
:13:38. > :13:41.baddies that are doing it. Well, we are now following the police
:13:41. > :13:46.support group to the first of two addresses where officers believe
:13:46. > :13:52.there could be suspects involved in metal theft. We will be asking for
:13:52. > :14:00.your help with these and other unsolved crimes. �10,000 has just
:14:00. > :14:05.vanished. We may never get these things back again. Let's bring the
:14:05. > :14:15.criminals to justice. I couldn't think straight. I was just scared
:14:15. > :14:25.
:14:25. > :14:31.The rest of the week will be very busy. Let's start by taking a look
:14:31. > :14:34.at this. An air rifle and in a few moments these people from the
:14:34. > :14:39.special search unit will have to find it from in there, the River
:14:39. > :14:48.Wye. Turnaround, we don't want you to see where we throw it. No
:14:48. > :14:53.cheating. Are you all said? Off you go, throw it in. There we are. In
:14:53. > :14:58.the River Wye. You might have noticed there was a wire attached.
:14:58. > :15:05.That is in case these get called away and we can retrieve the gun
:15:05. > :15:10.from the river. Get to work. Sergeant Peter Allan, you run this
:15:10. > :15:16.team. Tell us about the conditions the officers face.
:15:16. > :15:21.Primary problems are the flow of the outgoing tides. Three hours
:15:21. > :15:27.after high tide. Battling the flow. Poor visibility. Down to about one
:15:27. > :15:31.inch in front of their face. Thick sludge mud. I think we can get an
:15:31. > :15:38.idea from some pictures of the kind of conditions Basie. Literally they
:15:38. > :15:42.cannot see their hands in front of their face. Nothing. The mud, how
:15:42. > :15:48.deep would that be? It looks very sticky.
:15:48. > :15:52.It is between 6 ft and 10 ft deep. You would be engulfed. Explain
:15:52. > :15:57.about how the officers undertake research. The visit lability is bad,
:15:57. > :16:01.the tide is flowing, it sounds like searching for a needle in a
:16:01. > :16:07.haystack -- visibility. There are several sorts of search parties we
:16:07. > :16:12.can use. It involves weighted lines which we late in a grid system, a
:16:12. > :16:17.bit like an underwater archaeological search. What kind of
:16:18. > :16:24.things are they trained to a church -- search for? Stolen property,
:16:24. > :16:28.firearms, body recovery, counter- terrorist searches. Is there a risk
:16:28. > :16:34.to the officers in going into situations like this? Certainly
:16:34. > :16:39.there is a risk assessment which has to be done. Diving has it and
:16:39. > :16:44.problems. It is dangerous. Her one of your officers said if it is in
:16:44. > :16:49.there to be found, I will find it. Fingers crossed. I wish you and
:16:49. > :16:57.your team the best of luck. There are preparing to go in.
:16:57. > :17:03.I hope they find it. Still to come, when a building is wrecked as badly
:17:03. > :17:08.as this it means thieves are after only one thing, Merkel. And when
:17:08. > :17:13.fire gutted this primary school it ripped the heart out of a community.
:17:13. > :17:16.Bash metal. We need your help to catch those responsible.
:17:16. > :17:22.We have been getting some great called and information. We still
:17:22. > :17:27.need more help. Take a good look at this latest batch of CCTV.
:17:27. > :17:30.It is the early hours of March 6th in his Notting Hill nightclub in
:17:30. > :17:35.London. Most of the revellers are starting to call it a night that
:17:35. > :17:39.keep an eye on the guy in the light coloured shirt and tie. He is
:17:39. > :17:43.having a chat with the man in the suit jacket but things turn nasty
:17:43. > :17:46.and he decides to smash an ice bucket into the other man's face.
:17:46. > :17:51.The attacker is ushered out by his friends while his victim seeks
:17:51. > :17:59.medical treatment. Let's put his thuggery on ice. Let us know who he
:17:59. > :18:03.It is a quiet night for staff at this Bromwich bookmakers in January.
:18:03. > :18:08.But the peace is shattered when two men barge in brandishing a gun.
:18:08. > :18:11.They are wearing hoods and their faces are covered. They point the
:18:11. > :18:15.gun through the security screen and demand to be letting to the counter
:18:15. > :18:20.area. The quick thinking staff run into the bark of the shop forcing
:18:20. > :18:27.the robbers to give up and leave. Help the police probe the Booker
:18:27. > :18:31.them and tell us who they are. -- throw the book at them. It is
:18:31. > :18:35.February and these teenagers are having a chat in London. But the
:18:35. > :18:40.mood changes when the guy in the white jumper turned up. There seems
:18:40. > :18:45.to be an argument before he punches one of the youths so hard he is
:18:45. > :18:53.sent crashing to the ground smashing his head on a door. Help
:18:53. > :19:03.us stop this violent thud doing this to somebody else.
:19:03. > :19:10.
:19:10. > :19:17.A bonus if you know anything about If you want to be anonymous you can
:19:17. > :19:22.phone Crimestoppers. Back to marry him in Chepstow.
:19:22. > :19:29.The tension is building -- marry him. The police dive team are
:19:29. > :19:33.getting into the water to retrieve that gun. The conditions are really
:19:33. > :19:38.difficult. Lots of sticky mud. We will tell you more about how they
:19:38. > :19:44.get on later. As they are preparing let go over to Lee Rees because she
:19:44. > :19:50.has news of a crime that is costing the country �770 million every year
:19:50. > :19:54.-- Louise. The aftermath of a break-in. Chaos,
:19:54. > :20:00.heartbreak and despair. And here at the building has been ripped to
:20:00. > :20:07.pieces. But why? What were they after? At first it looks as if
:20:07. > :20:11.nothing had happened. He walked in the main room, noticed a copper
:20:11. > :20:16.piping had gone. We went from there to the second floor, all the
:20:16. > :20:21.radiators had been pulled off the wall and every carpet removed. The
:20:21. > :20:30.top Broomes, they had pulled the ceiling down and all they have
:20:30. > :20:34.taken his copper. All the devastation had been duped to this.
:20:34. > :20:44.Metal theft is a growing crime wave. The thieves don't care what effect
:20:44. > :20:47.
:20:47. > :20:51.their actions have on a community. Just ask the people of Fleur-De-Lys.
:20:51. > :20:57.The effect they made for groups that use the miners' Institute, it
:20:57. > :21:01.is devastating. It is something they have taken away. We set up a
:21:01. > :21:06.group, ex-miners and miners' wives and widows and it has proved to be
:21:06. > :21:09.popular. The venue is crucial to the group continuing and the ladies
:21:09. > :21:17.and meant that come here like the fact they meet in a mine as well,
:21:17. > :21:20.it is significant. A great shame. - - miners' hall. To combat medal
:21:20. > :21:30.that went police are staging special operations and they have
:21:30. > :21:32.
:21:32. > :21:42.got we criminals in their site -- Gwent police. 20 metal thefts
:21:42. > :21:44.
:21:44. > :21:50.An early-morning raid on a scrap metal dealers caused a result. A
:21:50. > :21:54.quantity of stolen lead. Two suspects are taken away. But that
:21:54. > :22:00.is not the end of it because police had new technology at their
:22:00. > :22:05.disposal which may prove where the metal it originated.
:22:05. > :22:09.More on that technology later. Throughout this series we have been
:22:09. > :22:15.showing you criminals caught on camera. It is estimated there are 2
:22:15. > :22:21.million CCTV cameras in the UK. DCM at Neville has not looked at all of
:22:21. > :22:26.those himself but he has looked at a lot of images -- Mick Neville.
:22:26. > :22:31.Are we making the best use of the footage? We are using images like
:22:31. > :22:38.fingerprint and DNA. We are looking at getting the images, making sure
:22:38. > :22:44.their protest, identified, making sure criminals are arrested. It is
:22:44. > :22:49.not a case of how many you have, it is what you do with them. Other
:22:49. > :22:52.criminals deterred by it? I more and more so. At first it was just
:22:52. > :22:57.putting the cameras up but now we have got the system so they fear
:22:57. > :23:00.not just the camera but the getting caught. Even academic research has
:23:00. > :23:07.shown that prisoners were frightened of the cameras because
:23:07. > :23:12.they were caught. We know the quality can vary from job to job.
:23:12. > :23:18.Is that frustrating? Sometimes. But you have to imagine even in a major
:23:18. > :23:21.crime blurry CCTV can read this to the point where a criminal was and
:23:21. > :23:24.lead us to taking fingerprints and DNA from that place a week
:23:24. > :23:32.identified the criminal. Sometimes fears might think it is blurred but
:23:32. > :23:38.it can still solve cases. What makes you unit special. The idea we
:23:38. > :23:44.treat it as forensic imagery, a proper circulation of images and,
:23:44. > :23:49.even to the media. And when it is identified we sent a senior
:23:49. > :23:56.reporter to make sure the criminals are arrested. That is the real
:23:56. > :24:01.difference. You have got to images you want to appeal for today.
:24:01. > :24:09.is a burglary of an art gallery in central London. He broke through a
:24:09. > :24:13.two-door cast box in April. Made off on a bicycle. We know that is
:24:13. > :24:16.serious enough. People are concerned about burglaries of homes.
:24:16. > :24:21.50% of people who burgle office blocks have convictions for
:24:21. > :24:26.burgling houses to getting these identified is important. Another
:24:26. > :24:32.one. This shows how we have developed not just CCTV but
:24:32. > :24:37.forensic images. He possibly has died in his own mugshot. This is a
:24:37. > :24:47.crime in Greenwich in January. A man was threatened, told if you
:24:47. > :24:51.
:24:51. > :24:55.don't hand over your life then you will be stabbed. -- iPhone. We
:24:55. > :25:02.believe he has taken his own mugshot. We are keen to get him
:25:02. > :25:09.identified. Cameras all around us. They can do their bit if you catch
:25:09. > :25:13.-- tackle crime. Yesterday we asked for information
:25:13. > :25:18.on this guy, Robert Kerr who picks on Christians and takes their money.
:25:18. > :25:25.We have had one of the biggest responses were 30 calls common
:25:25. > :25:31.texts, and the mouse. -- with over 30 calls, text messages, and e-
:25:31. > :25:37.mails. We told you that there guy he stole
:25:37. > :25:40.PIN numbers from NHS staff. More of you have called in believing you
:25:40. > :25:44.may have fallen victim to the same scam.
:25:45. > :25:49.Good information on a wanted face, Patrick Paul Hull,, who featured
:25:49. > :25:56.last week who breach the terms of his early release -- Patrick called
:25:56. > :26:00.Ocana. -- Patrick Paul O'Connor.
:26:00. > :26:06.At the beginning of the mind of fire ripped through a school in
:26:06. > :26:10.Chepstow causing devastation. Within hours of the fire starting
:26:10. > :26:20.Crimewatch Roadshow learnt it was a possible arson and our cameras were
:26:20. > :26:26.
:26:26. > :26:36.The noise, the smell, it was horrific. It was heartbreaking.
:26:36. > :26:37.
:26:37. > :26:42.Three weeks ago the community of Bullwork in Chepstow work to Friday
:26:43. > :26:48.scene of devastation. Large parts of Thorn will primary school had
:26:48. > :26:51.been burnt to the ground. I had a teller for current -- telephone
:26:51. > :26:56.call at 145 am which is quite alarming because you think
:26:56. > :27:02.something is wrong. It was my caretaker informing me he had had a
:27:02. > :27:08.call informing him the school was on fire. I was stunned. I do have -
:27:09. > :27:17.- drove here as quickly as I could to be greeted by flames, smoke, six
:27:17. > :27:24.fire tenders, and chaos. It was well established by the time we got
:27:24. > :27:30.here. Most people in the vicinity were asleep. It is basically the
:27:30. > :27:40.noise which goes with a fire, or waiting until people have woken up,
:27:40. > :27:44.
:27:44. > :27:50.The bricks and mortar can be replaced. What cannot be replaced
:27:50. > :27:55.on memories, history, and heritage. It took 45 officers more than four
:27:55. > :28:01.hours to get the flames under control. Were there arrived about
:28:01. > :28:06.30% of it was engulfed in flames and our priority was realising that
:28:06. > :28:12.that blog was written off, to be it the other buildings within the
:28:12. > :28:16.school complex to make sure they went damage. The blaze destroyed
:28:16. > :28:23.the entire nursery unit and infant school costing hundreds and
:28:23. > :28:26.thousands of pounds. Unfortunately the Playhouse has caught fire. It
:28:26. > :28:35.has caught fire to the wooden structure and hence to see the
:28:35. > :28:40.damage. You note youths congregate in that area. They also used tea
:28:40. > :28:46.lights. This may well have been a cause of the fire. According to the
:28:46. > :28:52.mud of recklessness involved we are treating it as arson. -- the amount.
:28:52. > :28:58.The impact on the community has been massive. It looked like a bomb
:28:58. > :29:03.had gone off. We were absolutely gutted. It was awful. I did break a
:29:03. > :29:07.tear. The children's work has gone and all the things. Not very nice.
:29:07. > :29:12.You have to explain to them all the staff has been bed and it is gone
:29:12. > :29:19.and they are not getting it back. It is not their fault but you
:29:19. > :29:22.cannot easily explain it to a There is one person in particular
:29:22. > :29:26.that officers are keen to track down. The description we have got
:29:26. > :29:29.is basically a male person, wearing a grey hooded top who was seen
:29:29. > :29:32.running from the area. It may well have been an accident, but somebody
:29:32. > :29:35.somewhere knows who is responsible and we need that person to come
:29:35. > :29:39.forward, or persons who are involved in it and I would urge you
:29:39. > :29:43.to come forward. The thought that perhaps it could be somebody within
:29:43. > :29:52.the community who possibly at some point in the past had attended this
:29:52. > :29:56.school makes what has happened even harder to come to terms with.
:29:56. > :30:01.Graeme Smith is from South Wales Fire and Rescue Service. Let's be
:30:01. > :30:05.clear right away, you believe that this fire was our son but you do
:30:05. > :30:09.not think it was started deliberately? The conclusion of our
:30:09. > :30:13.investigation team was a group of young people were using the Wendy
:30:14. > :30:18.house attached to the building as an illicit drinking den, and
:30:18. > :30:22.perhaps use some candles to eliminate that particular area.
:30:22. > :30:28.Then under the influence of alcohol they have not put the candlelight
:30:28. > :30:32.and it has spread to the Wendy house. Candles like this, most of
:30:32. > :30:39.us use them in the garden during the summer. The danger is when you
:30:39. > :30:45.leave them. But basically this was teenagers having a party? Yes, and
:30:45. > :30:48.something as innocuous as that candle can cause devastation.
:30:48. > :30:55.were two school fires in Wales yesterday. How many nationally
:30:55. > :31:01.every day across the UK? There were three yesterday. We had two last
:31:01. > :31:07.night so we have had our share of that ratio. How much does it cost?
:31:07. > :31:11.In the UK, the cost of our son is around the 6 billion mark. That is
:31:11. > :31:17.the overall economic cost, loss of production for businesses,
:31:17. > :31:21.disruption to schools, overall about 6 billion. Thank you very
:31:21. > :31:26.much. If you know anything about the fire at Thornwell School,
:31:26. > :31:32.please get in touch. Time for a quick look at some more criminals
:31:32. > :31:36.caught on CCTV. Take a look at this health-
:31:36. > :31:41.conscious shoplifter as he strolls into this London health food shop
:31:41. > :31:47.in July and has a look at the products on offer. But then he
:31:47. > :31:51.picks up a box from the top shelf. Then another, and places them on a
:31:51. > :31:55.different shelf. Then when he thinks the coast is clear, he picks
:31:55. > :32:01.the contents in his jacket before having to take a phone call and
:32:01. > :32:11.walking out. The cameras caught him in the act. Let's help the police
:32:11. > :32:12.
:32:12. > :32:17.catch him. Carlos with his name. -- it tell us his name. This is one
:32:17. > :32:23.determined bike thief. He sets about this bike near the Elephant
:32:23. > :32:27.and Castle in London last year. But the bike owners bought him and
:32:27. > :32:32.chases him off. Or does he, a few minutes later and he is back for
:32:32. > :32:39.another go. The owner sees him again and makes a desperate grab
:32:39. > :32:46.for him, but it is too late, the thief is on his bike. Let's put an
:32:46. > :32:50.end to his thieving ways. It will this year and it is a busy
:32:50. > :32:56.day at his central London pub but this man does not seem interested
:32:56. > :33:00.in the bar. He heads to the tables and settles down, but he is seen
:33:00. > :33:05.fidgeting. He does the old court over the chair Craik and while it
:33:05. > :33:10.looks like he is doing so -- looking for something in his own
:33:10. > :33:13.code, C is rifling through the pockets of the man behind him. Help
:33:13. > :33:17.us catch him. Give us a call if you know anything
:33:17. > :33:20.about those images. 08000 468 999. Or text us on 63399. Text CW, space
:33:20. > :33:28.and then your message. Please leave the space or your message will not
:33:28. > :33:31.get through. Or email us. CWR@bbc.co.uk. Back to Louise.
:33:31. > :33:41.Earlier we set the South Wales diving team a challenge to find an
:33:41. > :33:46.
:33:46. > :33:52.air rifle I tossed into the river. How are you getting on? You have
:33:52. > :33:59.got it? Brilliant, let's see. They will ask one of the men now to
:33:59. > :34:04.surface. They it is. The air rifle with the diver. Magnificent work,
:34:04. > :34:10.very well done. They did say that if it was in there to find, they
:34:10. > :34:15.would find it. You were never in any doubt, were you? No. They are
:34:15. > :34:20.pretty good. You told us how challenging these waters are, it is
:34:20. > :34:28.tidal, we have discussed the mudflats, but what are conditions
:34:28. > :34:33.like under there and how do the officers carry out research? Most
:34:33. > :34:40.people will be familiar to the line search on land across the grass. It
:34:40. > :34:43.is similar down there, painstaking, along the bottom, inch by inch.
:34:43. > :34:50.Today they are using a very tight line, but they could use a weighted
:34:50. > :34:55.line. What about communication? Today they are using a buddy system.
:34:55. > :35:05.There is a transponder over the edge and they can speak a diver to
:35:05. > :35:07.
:35:07. > :35:12.diver and the surface. Here comes the rifle now. Thanks. It is a
:35:12. > :35:18.needle in a haystack, stuff like this. A lot of training must going
:35:18. > :35:22.to the officers? That is right, each diver does an eight-week
:35:22. > :35:29.training course. As you say, it is painstaking, low visibility, and
:35:29. > :35:33.the conditions make it a difficult job. He has done a grand job. He is
:35:33. > :35:39.just being hosed down. At any time you can be called out, you're quite
:35:39. > :35:43.busy? Yes, we look after four forces surrounding South Wales and
:35:43. > :35:47.we can be called out at any time of the day or night. Thank you,
:35:47. > :35:50.Sergeant. Now back to the story of metal
:35:50. > :35:53.theft we featured earlier, and how technology is helping track down
:35:53. > :35:56.stolen lead and copper. The results of a malicious break-in
:35:56. > :36:05.at a community centre in the Gwent Valleys. Thieves have ripped out
:36:05. > :36:07.copper. Scrap metal is worth a lot on the black market. Almost every
:36:07. > :36:10.day Gwent police are dealing with metal theft. Today they have
:36:10. > :36:13.launched an operation at a scrap yard near Pontypool where two
:36:13. > :36:23.suspected thieves are questioned as they try to pass on some stolen
:36:23. > :36:25.
:36:25. > :36:28.lead. There is a fair bit of lead and it looks like it has come off a
:36:28. > :36:31.roof. Both are taken into custody. Gwent police are aware of the
:36:31. > :36:37.effect metal theft has on local communities. It is a crime they
:36:38. > :36:40.take very seriously. Vans on the way now for those two. When we
:36:41. > :36:45.arrived here there were a couple of people delivering scrap metal that
:36:45. > :36:48.looks as though it has been stolen. So they have been arrested and
:36:48. > :36:53.obviously we have seized quite a large amount of scrap lead this
:36:53. > :37:00.morning. And in terms of the scrap metal dealer, what part does he
:37:00. > :37:04.play in your investigations now? are using a new sort of thing at
:37:04. > :37:07.the moment called SmartWater which shows up on the lead. The main
:37:07. > :37:10.concern is that he has been using that to check the metals delivered
:37:10. > :37:12.to him and he seems to be doing everything correctly. This
:37:12. > :37:14.technology is a significant breakthrough in the detection of
:37:14. > :37:17.stolen metal. It is a special liquid, detectable under
:37:17. > :37:25.ultraviolet light, that allows the metal to be traced to its original
:37:25. > :37:34.owner. There was lead found here today. Yes. And you've had a look
:37:34. > :37:37.at that. What have you found? have found samples, what appears to
:37:37. > :37:41.be SmartWater, that had been brushed onto lead which I suppose
:37:41. > :37:44.has probably come off a roof. that then link the lead that we
:37:44. > :37:48.find here to the exact roof that it would have come off? Yes, it can.
:37:48. > :37:51.Under ultraviolet, that is SmartWater. Each bottle has its own
:37:51. > :37:54.unique chemical combination registered to a particular owner.
:37:54. > :37:57.It can be used on any type of building, offering reassurance that
:37:57. > :38:05.if metal is stolen it could be identified and help secure a
:38:05. > :38:10.prosecution. The lead found on the police raid was traced back to
:38:10. > :38:15.Pontypool Market. We were told that some lead had been stolen and that
:38:15. > :38:17.it has been found at the back of a car. We lost about a third of a
:38:17. > :38:23.tonne of lead overnight which we later found the police have
:38:23. > :38:27.recovered and have now since given back to us. The technology is so
:38:27. > :38:33.good and so successful that we've now rolled it out across all the
:38:33. > :38:36.buildings in the authority. These are tough times for all of us and
:38:36. > :38:38.that includes the criminals but after what happened here today and
:38:38. > :38:41.with the rise of innovative technology like SmartWater, police
:38:41. > :38:44.hope that will send out a message to criminals, hat our homes, our
:38:44. > :38:53.community centres and our churches will no longer be soft targets for
:38:53. > :38:57.thieves. -- that our homes. Aron Craven is from SmartWater, the
:38:57. > :39:07.system used to track down some of the stolen metal we saw in that
:39:07. > :39:07.
:39:07. > :39:13.report. Stallone metal is not just a problem for companies but
:39:13. > :39:17.communities as well? -- stolen metal. Yes, there are known to
:39:17. > :39:21.target utility companies and they take a small amount of metal and
:39:21. > :39:27.did very little from it. But the impact on communities, you could
:39:27. > :39:32.lose your broadband or your power. If you had a SmartWater solution on
:39:32. > :39:36.the gun and that we saw it taken out of the River Wye there, would
:39:36. > :39:41.you be able to trace it even though it has been taken out of muddy
:39:41. > :39:49.water? Yes, we have successfully traced items taken from muddy
:39:49. > :39:53.streams. How do you do it? It is very simple to spot, it glows
:39:53. > :39:58.bright yellow under ultraviolet light. We send it to our
:39:58. > :40:03.laboratories and check the result against air database. We can tell
:40:03. > :40:06.where the need Bacher forensics solutions was registered to. The
:40:06. > :40:12.police can use it as evidence because it links a criminal to a
:40:12. > :40:16.specific crime scene. How can you make it so specific? We used a very
:40:16. > :40:21.clever chemical formal and we have over 1 billion of those at our
:40:21. > :40:27.disposal. There is an annual subscription for this technology,
:40:27. > :40:31.but will the criminals not get wise to it? Our clients actively
:40:31. > :40:39.publicise the fact that the use SmartWater on warning signs at the
:40:39. > :40:44.site. It raises the fear factor for the offender. Hopefully it will
:40:44. > :40:49.deter them from targeting our clients' premises. Have you any
:40:49. > :40:53.evidence that it is? Yes, our clients report significant
:40:53. > :40:59.reductions in metals that, but where they have been targeted, we
:40:59. > :41:04.have been able to provide valuable evidence for prosecutions. Just an
:41:04. > :41:09.update for today, we have had a great response from yesterday. We
:41:09. > :41:13.had back -- we have had a response on the care home conman who struck
:41:13. > :41:19.in Gloucestershire. The investigating officer is following
:41:19. > :41:27.up. We have had information up on a wanted face from yesterday, here he
:41:27. > :41:34.is. He is wanted it for conspiracy to supply drugs. We have also had
:41:34. > :41:40.information on this man, who is part of Operation Return. Thank you
:41:40. > :41:45.to everyone who got in touch. Miriam and Louise, what have you
:41:45. > :41:48.got lined up for tomorrow? Rav, our all-action last week of the series
:41:48. > :41:50.continues. We have had divers today and we're meeting up with the
:41:50. > :41:53.helicops tomorrow. I've been given exclusive access to
:41:53. > :42:03.the team and some of the footage it takes from hundreds of feet up.
:42:03. > :42:11.
:42:11. > :42:16.This is the helicopter that covers This is the main piece of equipment
:42:16. > :42:22.on the aircraft. This is the forward-looking infra red camera.
:42:22. > :42:29.Take it up, take it up. We have got this eye in the sky which is just
:42:29. > :42:32.fantastic for us. You get that find that you know no-one would have
:42:32. > :42:35.found without you. That is extremely rewarding.
:42:35. > :42:40.And tomorrow, the helicopter should be touching down live on the
:42:40. > :42:47.programme. That's at Kenfig Nature Reserve which over looks Swansea
:42:47. > :42:49.Bay. We will see you tomorrow. Thank you, both. For more details
:42:49. > :42:52.about the crimes on today's programme, go to