:00:14. > :00:20.Everyone has got a view on how the streets should be policed.
:00:20. > :00:27.Crackdown on anti-social behaviour, more bobbies on the beat... Well,
:00:27. > :00:33.in just over a week, the way the police operate could change ever. -
:00:33. > :00:36.- will change for ever. That is when we elect brand-new police and
:00:36. > :00:40.crime commissioners. We will get the chance to decide how the police
:00:40. > :00:45.deal with everything from under- aged drinking, graffiti, it right
:00:45. > :00:50.through to gun crime. Tonight, we are going to explain the idea, look
:00:50. > :01:00.at how it might work and explain the issues that affect you. This is
:01:00. > :01:11.
:01:11. > :01:15.Millions of us across England and Wales are being given a choice. Who
:01:15. > :01:19.do we want to be our Police and Crime Commissioner? Who do we want
:01:19. > :01:24.to decide the strategy for how Save Our streets are, to look after
:01:24. > :01:29.victims? Why should we go to the polls next week on a cold November
:01:29. > :01:32.night for these controversial elections? The new police and Crown
:01:32. > :01:36.Commissioners - it will they really make a difference? And what effect
:01:36. > :01:39.will the changes have where you live? We will be looking at what
:01:39. > :01:43.these police elections mean for all of us.
:01:43. > :01:49.In the East Midlands - Blue Lamp all red alert to? Are you still in
:01:49. > :01:52.the dark about this influential new role? Just how will police and
:01:52. > :01:59.Crown Commissioners really work closer to home, and will they
:01:59. > :02:03.actually make us feel any safer? So, in the next half hour, we are
:02:03. > :02:06.going to be looking at what difference these new police
:02:06. > :02:12.commissioners are going to make. Later, we will be asking whether
:02:12. > :02:15.the crop of candidates out there are going in the right direction.
:02:15. > :02:20.Our guests include Shami Chakrabarti from the human rights
:02:21. > :02:24.group capability. A man who helped to design the plan is also with us.
:02:24. > :02:28.But what will these Police Commissioner's actually be
:02:28. > :02:33.responsible for? They will be able to hire and fire a chief constable,
:02:33. > :02:37.they will have to deliver a five- year policing plan and come up with
:02:37. > :02:41.a budget, and they will have to regularly consult us on the way
:02:41. > :02:47.they police the streets. They might also be able to extend their
:02:47. > :02:51.influence into how justice is administered through the courts.
:02:51. > :02:55.These characters will be managing multi-million pound organisations
:02:55. > :03:00.and developing a plan that covers populations of millions, all within
:03:00. > :03:07.one police force area. It is a huge task. We have been trying to find
:03:07. > :03:12.out just what the job is all about. The police have to manage all types
:03:12. > :03:17.of crime, whether that is violent crime in the City or anti-social
:03:17. > :03:20.behaviour in the countryside. The government's advertising campaign
:03:20. > :03:24.is hard-hitting but the new Police and Crime Commissioner will have to
:03:24. > :03:29.talking to people's everyday concerns. The gangs that hang
:03:29. > :03:35.around, especially in the park. Police doing speed tests because
:03:35. > :03:38.when I live, they use the road like a motorway. A crime commission a's
:03:38. > :03:44.job is to listen to the public. And in the run-up to the elections, the
:03:44. > :03:47.candidates are out making promises to win votes. But once in office,
:03:47. > :03:51.they may discover just how complex policing is, with conflicting
:03:51. > :03:59.demands. Here in Middlesbrough, anti-social
:03:59. > :04:04.behaviour takes up most police time. Hello, Ron. One has suffered 10
:04:04. > :04:12.years of abuse, including two petrol bomb attacks on his home. --
:04:12. > :04:15.won it has suffered. They need to sort the estate out. More police
:04:15. > :04:19.presence because without that, pearly pink -- people are just
:04:19. > :04:24.going to suffer more. They need to target the people causing trouble
:04:24. > :04:27.within communities. Police on the beat me reassure people that
:04:27. > :04:33.communities are safe but deploying them everywhere, all the time, is
:04:33. > :04:36.impossible. Different crimes need different policing. Take this town
:04:37. > :04:40.in North Yorkshire where crime is relatively low. Bobbies on the beat
:04:40. > :04:44.are not exactly a priority but recently, the Post Office had its
:04:45. > :04:50.cash machine stolen. We were round here still want their fair share of
:04:50. > :04:55.policing. Two doors down from the Post Office, Karen's property has
:04:55. > :05:01.been broken into twice. She is concerned that rural areas will be
:05:01. > :05:04.overlooked by the new Police and Crime Commissioner. My concern is
:05:04. > :05:08.that such as the police commissioner might think that petty
:05:08. > :05:13.crime, as it is labelled, does not matter but it does matter to people,
:05:13. > :05:20.especially in rural areas. If somebody takes your trailer or your
:05:20. > :05:26.bike or break brigand your sheds, then it does affect those people. -
:05:26. > :05:30.- break into. So it is up to the crime Commissioner to listen and to
:05:30. > :05:34.the policing relevant to you, and do it with limited resources. But
:05:34. > :05:38.that is not the only challenge. There is the tricky issue of
:05:38. > :05:42.personalities. The new commissioner will set the priorities for a chief
:05:42. > :05:50.constable. How will they get on and can they agree on how to achieve
:05:50. > :05:55.what the public wants to see? Keith Halliwell is a former chief
:05:55. > :05:59.constable and knows how tough that job is. But he thinks that the job
:05:59. > :06:02.of any Police and Crime Commissioner will be even harder.
:06:02. > :06:06.It is enormously talented because the individual will need to
:06:06. > :06:09.understand the police service. They will meet a lot of political nous.
:06:09. > :06:13.They will need to know how to run an enormous organisation and they
:06:13. > :06:17.will be do have the confidence of the public and the media. It is a
:06:17. > :06:24.virtually impossible task for any individual to do that. Strong words
:06:24. > :06:29.there. A virtually impossible task for any one individual. I don't
:06:29. > :06:33.think that's right. He is talking about managing the police force.
:06:33. > :06:37.The chief constable will manage the police force. The PCC is not
:06:37. > :06:41.managing - he is a political leader and will look at decisions about
:06:41. > :06:45.priorities. He will try to identify policing needs but he is not going
:06:45. > :06:49.to be managing the force on a day- to-day basis. There is a management
:06:49. > :06:54.team, there is a chief constable, their resistance who are trained
:06:54. > :06:59.and get paid for that. That is their job. There was a lot about
:06:59. > :07:04.changing police operations. This is not going to affect police
:07:04. > :07:08.operations, except if the Chief Constable wants them to change. It
:07:08. > :07:13.is about priorities. It is about focusing on people's needs,
:07:13. > :07:18.identifying those needs and making sure the Chief Constable meets them.
:07:18. > :07:21.It is power to the people, Shami Chakrabarti. It's not. It is power
:07:21. > :07:27.to unelected politician and I think we have seen too much political
:07:27. > :07:31.interference. It is democracy. How can you argue against that?
:07:31. > :07:35.Democracy is not just about having elections and elected politicians
:07:35. > :07:39.are not the only people with authority in a democracy. You also
:07:39. > :07:42.need the rule of law. Of course politicians that the laws and
:07:42. > :07:46.decide what the police powers are but then you need independent
:07:46. > :07:52.professionals who serve the whole community, whether they vote or not
:07:52. > :07:56.- young, old, minorities as well as majorities. I am worried that this
:07:56. > :08:03.charismatic local politician, if that's who he is - it will normally
:08:03. > :08:06.be he, let's be clear, rather than a diverse Police authority - and I
:08:06. > :08:10.am worried that this politician is going to be looking for the
:08:10. > :08:15.headlines and the popular causes, and not serving the tough needs of
:08:15. > :08:19.the entire community, no matter how vulnerable they are. I just don't
:08:19. > :08:25.agree. I think members of Parliament serve the whole of their
:08:25. > :08:30.communities when they are elected. I think the mayor serves the whole
:08:30. > :08:33.of the community of London. I don't think we need to worry about PCC's
:08:33. > :08:37.neglecting bits of their communities. But the public want
:08:37. > :08:42.the law to be administered with an even hand. They don't want judges
:08:42. > :08:52.or police used to be elected. We pulled the public last year about
:08:52. > :08:53.
:08:53. > :08:57.whether they wanted this new system. -- ran a poll among the public. 65%
:08:57. > :09:02.of the people we asked said they would rather stick with the status
:09:02. > :09:06.quo. Only 15% thought that they were Trust the elected politician
:09:06. > :09:11.over the chief constable under the existing system. You on the record
:09:11. > :09:15.as saying it may well be a very bow turn out and do accept that. You
:09:15. > :09:19.have also said that people don't yet understand the concept of this
:09:19. > :09:23.role in one individual's hands. You are saying it is the elections
:09:23. > :09:28.after this one that are going to be been a significant, so what are the
:09:28. > :09:33.next four years going to be - a kind of pilot? No, they are a
:09:33. > :09:36.period when the PCC's begin to make a difference in their communities
:09:36. > :09:40.and members of those communities begin to realise that this PCC is
:09:40. > :09:47.someone who can make a difference to their lives. And suddenly, you
:09:47. > :09:50.will find that whereas now, people have never heard of PCCs, they
:09:50. > :09:55.regard crime as something that is done to them not something that
:09:55. > :09:58.they can control. But if he is not going to interfere in operational
:09:58. > :10:03.policing, what is his great transformation he is going to make?
:10:03. > :10:08.I believe in inspirational leadership. I believe the PCC can
:10:08. > :10:13.get a more effective police force by inspiring and leading and
:10:13. > :10:17.supporting the chief constable. I don't see this as a conflict...
:10:17. > :10:24.Let's Talk About one of the biggest police cover-ups in criminal
:10:24. > :10:28.history, Hillsborough. Jenny, you lost your two lovely girls and you
:10:28. > :10:31.and Trevor have been stalwart campaigners. If you had a Police
:10:31. > :10:36.and Crime Commissioner there he was answerable to people like yourself,
:10:36. > :10:40.which you have felt voiceless for quite so long? The current system
:10:40. > :10:47.doesn't seem to have worked for us. Some of the decisions that the
:10:47. > :10:49.local police authorities are not making have not worked for us, like
:10:49. > :10:55.certain people should have been suspended because of allegations
:10:55. > :10:58.about them. It just didn't happen. So you think a Police and Crime
:10:58. > :11:01.Commissioner, because he is answerable to people and can be
:11:01. > :11:06.kicked out after four years, it would have been a better situation
:11:06. > :11:09.for you? I would hope so. I would hope there would be more
:11:09. > :11:16.transparency, more accountability from them because they are
:11:16. > :11:20.collected. As a former top cop yourself, more transparency and
:11:20. > :11:25.more accountability - is this a real possibility? I think it
:11:25. > :11:28.depends. Politicians are not unknown for deciding not to open up
:11:29. > :11:32.and be transparent just before an election so why do the gig would be
:11:32. > :11:37.given that that would happen. You would need other levers to resolve
:11:37. > :11:43.the type of situation that revolves around Hillsborough. There are some
:11:43. > :11:47.facets of the new role and these authorities, for all their floors,
:11:47. > :11:51.do meet in public meetings, not with a huge audience present but
:11:51. > :11:56.they are, at least, a public meeting. Most of the decisions
:11:56. > :12:01.taken between Air Chief and the PCC will be taken in a room with a cup
:12:01. > :12:04.of coffee on their own. Some of that decision making in public
:12:04. > :12:08.might go and there is a big bonus on the individuals that take on
:12:08. > :12:11.this role to make sure that the public transparently see the
:12:11. > :12:14.decisions being taken and that they are not just done in what used to
:12:15. > :12:19.be called a smoke-filled rooms. could get horrendous personality
:12:19. > :12:22.clashes. That is a distinct possibility but most chiefs will
:12:22. > :12:31.want to make that relationship work, so I think that would be unlikely
:12:31. > :12:35.to happen. I can hear what you are saying. I didn't realise that it
:12:35. > :12:41.wouldn't be in an open forum that decisions would be made. So that's
:12:41. > :12:45.quite worrying. That's not good for transparency, is it? However, I
:12:45. > :12:48.come back to the accountability of being elected by the public.
:12:48. > :12:51.agree that there should be accountability and what happened
:12:51. > :12:56.with Hillsborough is one of the greatest policing scandals of my
:12:56. > :13:02.lifetime. The police there should be accountable to the law and I am
:13:02. > :13:10.not sure... It was people power, wasn't it, that forced to change
:13:10. > :13:13.here? And isn't this an expression of democratic law? But there were
:13:13. > :13:18.generations of democratically elected people who did not deal
:13:18. > :13:23.with this situation. Are you concerned that the PCC may just not
:13:24. > :13:27.show your liberal agenda? No, not at all. This is a constitutional
:13:27. > :13:31.point I'm making. It is not about a liberal agenda or another agenda.
:13:31. > :13:38.It is about saying you need checks and balances in a political
:13:38. > :13:41.democracy. I would no more have an elected judge... If you put
:13:41. > :13:44.policing in the hands of elected politicians, they do not
:13:44. > :13:51.necessarily serve the whole community - just the most important
:13:51. > :13:56.bits. A brief final comment. I see it completely differently. This is
:13:56. > :14:01.a job which relates to the allegation of scarce resources. We
:14:01. > :14:05.have always known that is a role for politicians. Policing needs are
:14:05. > :14:09.infinite, policing resources are very limited. Someone has to make
:14:09. > :14:15.that decision. Is it a chief constable who makes that or is it a
:14:15. > :14:19.freely elected PCC who has to defend his actions at the polls?
:14:20. > :14:24.And every day, the local media will ensure that this is transparent.
:14:24. > :14:27.Thank you all very much for now. Later, we will be looking at what
:14:27. > :14:31.the candidates themselves say they are going to do if they are elected
:14:31. > :14:41.- what their priorities are. These commissioners are going to have a
:14:41. > :14:43.
:14:43. > :14:48.I am here at the Galleries of Justice for Nottingham. Criminals
:14:48. > :14:54.have always been dealt with here. Is the jury out on how hour
:14:54. > :15:01.police's -- policing is run? First, Jeremy Ball looks at the problems
:15:01. > :15:06.the new commissioners will have to Nottingham City Centre. By day,
:15:06. > :15:12.it's a magnet for shoppers. But at night, it's a place that many of
:15:12. > :15:17.these people prefer to avoid. Last time we came, it was terrible.
:15:17. > :15:22.They were being sick in the street. My daughter and son will come into
:15:22. > :15:28.town and I worry for them. If I did come in, I would be rather
:15:28. > :15:33.frightened. Why? Because of these yobs coming out of clubs and the
:15:33. > :15:37.drunken ness. Just try stopping this lot though! Because thousands
:15:37. > :15:41.of people enjoy nights out in the city centre without a hint of
:15:42. > :15:45.trouble. And the bars and clubs are huge part of Nottingham's economy.
:15:45. > :15:48.But as the night wears on, the drink takes its toll. And the
:15:48. > :15:56.police have to deal with the consequences. And it didn't take us
:15:56. > :16:01.long to find victims of late-night violence, both here and elsewhere.
:16:01. > :16:05.Getting marked and having a knife pulled on me. It was disturbing.
:16:05. > :16:12.live in Leicester and in Leicester I have been robbed a few times.
:16:12. > :16:16.They come and start attacking me. They took my friend. I got attacked
:16:16. > :16:22.by 16 lads in Borwell. We came out of the pub and came home with cuts
:16:22. > :16:25.and bruises all over my faith. They batted me.
:16:25. > :16:29.That's why bars and clubs that stay open after midnight, could soon
:16:29. > :16:32.have to pay towards the policing costs. That night-time levy's been
:16:32. > :16:34.decided by Nottinghamshire's Police Authority. But they're going to be
:16:35. > :16:41.replaced by the new elected commissioner. And they're not
:16:41. > :16:45.convinced by the change. This one person who is expected to
:16:45. > :16:51.understand policing in the county, they 16 people in the police
:16:51. > :16:53.authority who have that Brett of experience. When you look at the
:16:53. > :16:58.candidates in Nottinghamshire, there has to be concern that there
:16:58. > :17:03.is not that experience of policing and the City that will be necessary
:17:03. > :17:06.to ensure the safety of local people in the community.
:17:06. > :17:10.You can bet they won't be talking about Police Commissioners out in
:17:10. > :17:15.the pubs and clubs tonight. But it's been described as the biggest
:17:15. > :17:23.change in policing in over a century. And the government hopes
:17:23. > :17:28.it'll give us all a say in how the police keep us safe.
:17:28. > :17:33.Rick Moore has been involved in the justice system for years in
:17:33. > :17:38.Leicester. You like the idea of a directly elected -- elected
:17:38. > :17:42.commissioner. I like the agenda for Police and Crime Commissioners. It
:17:42. > :17:47.is broader than many people seem to believe, which is just managing the
:17:47. > :17:55.police budget. I also like the single point of accountability.
:17:55. > :18:01.Last year I stood in the mayoral elections but didn't succeed. I
:18:01. > :18:04.have seen a mayoral system in operation and I believe, without
:18:04. > :18:14.agreeing on everything, that single point of accountability has worked
:18:14. > :18:17.well. He thought of standing. stand. I was going to initially and
:18:17. > :18:22.tell I concluded that the Government didn't have an awful lot
:18:22. > :18:27.of interest in independence, which is how I stood in the mayoral
:18:27. > :18:32.election. Nick Howe, you are a lecturer in criminology at the
:18:32. > :18:37.University of Derby and a former chief superintendent with 30 years'
:18:37. > :18:42.police experience. You are not convinced. If I am concerned with
:18:42. > :18:48.the political interference in relation to policing. Policing is
:18:48. > :18:53.based upon policing by consent and largely policing is free from
:18:53. > :18:57.political interference. Perhaps politics and policing don't mix. Is
:18:57. > :19:03.that one of the reasons why you stood down as a candidate? It is a
:19:03. > :19:09.risk. We all have to anticipate and accept that risk. It isn't strong
:19:09. > :19:12.enough for me to be swayed from my belief that this is a good idea.
:19:13. > :19:17.Marian Lewis, until recently you were then national chair of
:19:17. > :19:21.neighbourhood watch. Your own father had what was murdered. Was a
:19:21. > :19:25.police commissioner have helped to as a victim of crime? I don't know
:19:25. > :19:29.if you would have helped me personally. If it would have meant
:19:29. > :19:35.that the people around where my father in-law have lived and the
:19:35. > :19:38.people are represented, if they are able to hold the police and crime
:19:38. > :19:43.Commissioner to account with more accountability for members of the
:19:43. > :19:47.public, I would be in favour of it. That is yet to be proven. If you
:19:47. > :19:52.are undecided, what will sway you? It is the greater sense of
:19:52. > :19:56.community engagement, more accountability, much better
:19:56. > :20:00.consultation with the public, not just form-filling but engaging face
:20:01. > :20:08.to face. That is when you find out what people really need and require
:20:08. > :20:13.for their own policing needs. we have had problems here with
:20:13. > :20:19.crime. The perception perhaps that perhaps the police haven't reacted
:20:20. > :20:29.quickly enough. Would i directly appointed Commission have their ear
:20:30. > :20:30.
:20:30. > :20:40.to the ground more? I don't think so. Most of the politics is around
:20:40. > :20:42.
:20:42. > :20:45.-- rhetoric is around soundbite politics. It is that complexity
:20:45. > :20:49.that concerns me regarding Police and Crime Commissioners and the
:20:49. > :20:54.simplicity they put to policing. Marian, what to think that they
:20:54. > :20:59.might be more in touch with the community? I would like to think
:20:59. > :21:04.that that one person in that one role will be able to manage the
:21:04. > :21:10.accountability and the engagement with the community. It does beg the
:21:10. > :21:16.question, is that a big job for one person? Add the red we have a
:21:16. > :21:22.broader range of people but then again, are the police authority
:21:22. > :21:29.truly represented? Is the job too big for one person or is it better
:21:29. > :21:34.for 16 people on the police authority to do their job? Police
:21:34. > :21:41.authorities have done good work but it is quite wrong to believe that
:21:41. > :21:44.because they are democratically elected as local authority
:21:44. > :21:50.councillors. They are therefore going to be effective in a police
:21:50. > :21:53.authority. I believe they should hardly spend any time in his or her
:21:53. > :21:58.office, round the community, listening to communities,
:21:58. > :22:06.understanding what they want and be taking that back to the police
:22:06. > :22:09.chief officer. I will make one point and Pickup on something that
:22:09. > :22:13.Nick said. Police and Crown Commissioners will not be
:22:13. > :22:19.operational. If they fear into operational matters, we are in a
:22:19. > :22:26.serious place. You feel that way to? I do indeed. It is a dangerous
:22:26. > :22:30.slope if we go down that road. I wish the police and crime
:22:30. > :22:36.Commissioner well. They are offering -- operating against the
:22:36. > :22:41.backdrop of the austerity measures. They are trying to police against
:22:41. > :22:46.20% cut. Irrespective of Police and Crime Commissioners, they will have
:22:46. > :22:51.their work cut out. What to say to people who don't know whether they
:22:51. > :22:56.will vote. Don't miss this opportunity. If you want to realise
:22:56. > :23:00.how crime is managed in your area, a boat. Only vote if you think they
:23:00. > :23:08.will make a difference. That is where we will leave it here. Back
:23:08. > :23:13.to Nicky Clarke. There are 193 candidates standing
:23:13. > :23:18.in these elections and each has to produce a statement about what they
:23:18. > :23:21.want to achieve. I have all of them here. So mentioned them military
:23:22. > :23:26.background, some talked about their former role with the police
:23:26. > :23:33.authority and here are the words they used. The bigger they are, the
:23:33. > :23:39.more they commonly appear. Hundreds of mentions. 60 references to drugs
:23:39. > :23:45.and out of 55,000 words, only 30 uses of the word, alcohol, when 40
:23:45. > :23:49.yard per cent of crime is fuelled by and -- alcohol. One phrase that
:23:49. > :23:54.is common is anti-social behaviour. It is mentioned 117 times and that
:23:54. > :24:01.is the everyday low level nuisance crime that so many of us suffer
:24:01. > :24:06.from. You have suffered terribly from it. He even got to the stage
:24:07. > :24:14.where you set up this CCTV camera. We were look at that footage now.
:24:14. > :24:22.Talk us through it. They were and controllable. Targeting us are
:24:22. > :24:31.repeatedly. In the end, life became unbearable. The big problem is the
:24:31. > :24:37.police do seem to be not proactive. A crime would happen and they can't
:24:38. > :24:42.do that anymore. Would the crime commissionaire galvanise them?
:24:42. > :24:46.principle, it is a good idea they have someone who is possibly
:24:46. > :24:50.independent. The authorities to mark their own homework all the
:24:50. > :24:56.time. I don't think they have enough powers. They need to have
:24:56. > :25:00.more powers to audit cases as soon as a case has gone on. The look at
:25:00. > :25:04.the case management, what is going wrong with it. They start to get
:25:04. > :25:11.other people to look at what is going wrong. This is about trying
:25:11. > :25:17.to understand what is going wrong, why things are ineffectual as to
:25:17. > :25:27.why are numerous crimes committed and why are they not Court? Enough
:25:27. > :25:28.
:25:28. > :25:35.power. This is not enough power. There is flexibility and legroom
:25:35. > :25:40.for more powers to evolve, isn't there? I think their job is to
:25:40. > :25:43.identify a policing needs and to deal with their chief constables
:25:43. > :25:50.and the voluntary organisations and the victims' groups to meet these
:25:50. > :25:54.needs. They don't need power, they need leadership. I totally disagree
:25:55. > :25:58.because the whole problem is when you start getting beneath the
:25:58. > :26:02.surface of what one Chief Constable has said and the people who are
:26:02. > :26:09.fobbing you off, a unit to get the basics of why their cases such a
:26:09. > :26:13.problem. -- you need. You need to look at up who is doing what as to
:26:13. > :26:20.why is the evidence collection not good enough? By you have a multiple
:26:20. > :26:25.-- why you are having multiple crimes in areas over and over again.
:26:25. > :26:30.No one is cutting crime. The woman or man who will be successful and
:26:30. > :26:36.says, I will do this for you and he will get elected. You can't have
:26:36. > :26:45.the same estate, the same street targeted at a time after time.
:26:45. > :26:55.Anyone who is any good will have a map on his wall and will no and
:26:55. > :26:57.
:26:57. > :27:06.will know where the crimes are. I know what happens. Why have we got
:27:06. > :27:15.a robbery on this estate? It is a different story from investigating
:27:15. > :27:22.a case. You are a former gang member, turned it around. The
:27:22. > :27:27.people in gangs, the people affected by gangs do not live in
:27:27. > :27:33.the leafy areas which vote in these elections. We be listened to?
:27:33. > :27:37.is what I feel a big danger is in the committee. There is a sense of
:27:37. > :27:44.have you will communicate with these people in the committee's. It
:27:44. > :27:47.can't be just a one-off thing after six months. Do you think somebody
:27:48. > :27:55.will stand up and say they will help you people or will they get
:27:55. > :27:58.the votes elsewhere with populist messages? If there is support
:27:58. > :28:02.within the committee, the committees are going to want to
:28:02. > :28:06.help and to change their communities. If they don't know who
:28:06. > :28:09.to go to go to, then used to be someone there that they can go to
:28:09. > :28:15.and speed to on a regular basis to get some of these issues tackled.
:28:15. > :28:18.Could they get tackled but these Police and Crime Commissioners?
:28:18. > :28:25.Definitely. Them is to be more communication. The more we come
:28:25. > :28:28.together as a collective, the more we will solve the problem. That is
:28:28. > :28:33.half-an-hour and already you can see the sides of some of the issues
:28:33. > :28:36.we are talking about. If you want to know more from the candidates,
:28:36. > :28:41.BBC local radio will be holding debates from 9:00am tomorrow