:00:18. > :00:22.Everyone has got a view on how the street should be policed. Crackdown
:00:22. > :00:30.on anti-social behaviour, more police on the beat. In just over a
:00:30. > :00:35.week, the way the police operate will change for ever. That is when
:00:35. > :00:43.we elect brand-new police and crime commissioners. Through them, we
:00:43. > :00:48.will get the chance to decide how policing takes place. Tonight we
:00:48. > :00:58.will explain the idea, look at how it might work and discussed the
:00:58. > :01:09.
:01:10. > :01:14.issues that affect you. This is Millions of us across England and
:01:15. > :01:18.Wales are being given a choice. Who do we want to be Our police and
:01:18. > :01:26.crime commissioner? Who will decide the strategy for the safe nest of
:01:26. > :01:32.our streets? Why should we vote next week in these controversial
:01:32. > :01:37.elections? Will the new police and Crown Commissioners really will
:01:38. > :01:45.make a difference. What effect will the changes have where you live?
:01:45. > :01:51.Tonight, or we will have a look at what be elections min. In the south,
:01:51. > :01:55.will restorative action make criminals less likely to offend.
:01:55. > :02:01.There will also be a run-down of the candidate and the issues they
:02:01. > :02:05.face in your local force. In the next half-an-hour, we will
:02:05. > :02:10.look at the difference these new police commissioners are going to
:02:10. > :02:20.make. Later in the programme, we will be asking whether the
:02:20. > :02:23.
:02:23. > :02:28.candidates are going in the right direction. What will these Police
:02:28. > :02:33.Commissioner's actually be responsible for? For a start, they
:02:33. > :02:37.will be able to hire and fire a Chief Constable. They will need a
:02:37. > :02:42.five-year plan and they will have to come up with the Budget. They
:02:42. > :02:48.will also have to regularly consult us in the way they've police the
:02:48. > :02:54.streets. Then maybe able to influence the way punishment is
:02:54. > :03:00.meted out in the courts. These commissioners will be managing
:03:00. > :03:09.multi-million pound budgets and Policing huge areas. It is a huge
:03:09. > :03:14.task. The police have to manage all types
:03:14. > :03:17.of crime, whether that is violent crime in the city, or anti-social
:03:17. > :03:21.behaviour in the countryside. The government advertising campaign is
:03:21. > :03:29.hard hitting, but the new police and crime commissioner will have to
:03:29. > :03:36.tap into people's everyday concerns. The gangs that hang around. They
:03:36. > :03:39.need to do speed tests. The stretch of road Naomi's Lukla motorway.
:03:39. > :03:46.crime commission a's job is to listen to the public and in the
:03:46. > :03:54.run-up to the elections, candidates are out making promises. However,
:03:54. > :03:57.once in office, they may realise how difficult policing is. In
:03:57. > :04:02.Middlesbrough, anti-social behaviour takes are most of the
:04:02. > :04:06.police's time. This man has suffered 10 years of abuse,
:04:06. > :04:12.including two petrol bomb attacks on his home. He knows what he wants
:04:12. > :04:17.from the new police and crime commissioner. More police on the
:04:17. > :04:23.beat because without that, people will suffer more. We need to target
:04:23. > :04:26.the people who are causing problems within the communities. Police on
:04:26. > :04:31.the beat may reassure people their communities are safe, but deploying
:04:31. > :04:41.them everywhere all the time is impossible. Different crimes need
:04:41. > :04:41.
:04:41. > :04:46.different Policing. In North Yorkshire, police and on the beats
:04:46. > :04:51.are not a priority, but recently, the shop had its cash machine
:04:51. > :04:57.stolen. Two doors down from the Post Office, this woman's property
:04:57. > :05:02.has been broken into twice. She is concerned that rural areas will be
:05:02. > :05:05.overlooked by the new police and crime commissioner. A my concern is
:05:06. > :05:12.about the new police and crime commissioner might think that petty
:05:12. > :05:18.crime does not matter, but it does, especially in rural areas. If
:05:18. > :05:25.somebody takes your trailer or your bike or break into your shed, it
:05:25. > :05:28.affects you and we pay our taxes as well and we matter. So it is up to
:05:28. > :05:33.the crime police and crime commissioner to listen and deliver
:05:33. > :05:38.Policing relevant to you, and do it with limited resources. But that is
:05:38. > :05:41.not the only challenge. There is the tricky issue of personalities.
:05:41. > :05:48.The new crime police and crime commissioner will set the
:05:48. > :05:58.priorities for the Chief Constable. Can they are green on what the
:05:58. > :06:04.
:06:04. > :06:08.public wants to see - a reduction in crime. It is a challenging. The
:06:08. > :06:13.individual will need to understand the police service and have a lot
:06:13. > :06:17.of political knowledge. They will need to know how to run an enormous
:06:17. > :06:24.organisation and also have the confidence of their staff and the
:06:24. > :06:30.public. It is virtually impossible. Strong words there - a virtually
:06:30. > :06:34.impossible task. I do not think that is right. He is talking about
:06:34. > :06:41.managing the police force. The chief constable will manage the
:06:41. > :06:45.police force. The PCC is the leader, a political leader. He would try to
:06:45. > :06:51.identify policing needs, but he will not be managing the force on a
:06:51. > :06:59.day-to-day basis. There is a chief constable and assistance. That is
:06:59. > :07:04.their job. There was a lot at the beginning of this programme about
:07:04. > :07:08.changing police operations. This will not affect that, unless the
:07:08. > :07:13.Chief Constable wants them to change. It is about priorities and
:07:13. > :07:19.focusing on people's needs. Identifying them and making sure
:07:19. > :07:27.the Chief Constable meets them. Visit power to the people? It isn't.
:07:27. > :07:32.It is power to another politician. We have seen enough interference.
:07:33. > :07:39.But it is about democracy. It is not just about democracy and
:07:39. > :07:47.elected politicians are not the only people with authority in a
:07:47. > :07:54.democracy. Of course, politicians set the laws, but there needs to be
:07:54. > :08:04.some kind of separate body. I am worried that this charismatic local
:08:04. > :08:04.
:08:04. > :08:08.politician, if that is who he is, and it will normally be he, I am
:08:08. > :08:12.worried this politician will be looking for the headlines and the
:08:12. > :08:19.popular causes and not serving the tough needs of the entire community,
:08:19. > :08:21.no matter how vulnerable they are. I just do not agree. I think
:08:21. > :08:26.members of Parliament serve the whole of their communities when
:08:26. > :08:35.they are elected. I think the mayor says the whole of the community of
:08:35. > :08:42.London. I don't think we need to worry about PCCs and neglecting
:08:42. > :08:48.part of their communities. We've polled the public last year about
:08:48. > :08:52.whether they wanted this new system, or whether they preferred the
:08:52. > :08:58.existing system with the chief constable and a border police
:08:58. > :09:02.authority and 65 % of the people we polled said they would rather stick
:09:02. > :09:08.with the status quo. Only 15 % thought they would trust the
:09:08. > :09:13.elected politician over the chief constable. You are on the record as
:09:13. > :09:20.saying it may be a low turnout. You have also said people don't
:09:20. > :09:23.understand the concept of this role in one individual's hands. You're
:09:23. > :09:29.saying it will be be elections after this one that will be
:09:29. > :09:37.significant. So what will the next four years beat - a pilot? It will
:09:37. > :09:42.be a period when beat PCCs make a difference in their communities and
:09:42. > :09:52.people will start to realise that their presence will make a
:09:52. > :10:00.
:10:00. > :10:06.difference to their lives. If he is not going to interfere in Policing,
:10:06. > :10:10.what great influence we have in people's lives? I believe a PCC can
:10:10. > :10:16.get a better police force by inspiring and leading and
:10:16. > :10:22.supporting the chief constable. let us talk about the practical and
:10:22. > :10:31.one of the biggest police's corrupt in police history. You lost your
:10:31. > :10:36.two girls in Hillsborough. You have been stoic campaigners. I just
:10:36. > :10:41.wonder if you a police and crime commissioner there, would you have
:10:41. > :10:47.felt so voiceless? The current system did not work for us. Some of
:10:47. > :10:49.the decisions that the local police authorities are not making have not
:10:50. > :10:56.worked for us, like certain people should have been suspended because
:10:56. > :11:03.of allegations about them. It just didn't happen. So you think Ed
:11:04. > :11:09.police and crime commissioner, because he is answerable, could be
:11:10. > :11:18.kicked out? Hopefully. I hope there will be more transparency and
:11:18. > :11:22.accountability because they are elected. You are a former top cop.
:11:22. > :11:30.More transparency and accountability - is it something
:11:30. > :11:36.that can be done? I do not think it is a given that will happen. You
:11:36. > :11:40.will have to have other leaders to relieve the situation that revolves
:11:40. > :11:50.around Hillsborough. There are one or two facets of the new role.
:11:50. > :11:51.
:11:51. > :11:56.Police authorities do at least have open public meetings. Most of the
:11:56. > :11:58.decisions that will be taken between the chief constable and a
:11:58. > :12:03.police and crime commissioner will be made in a room with a cup of
:12:03. > :12:06.coffee, on their own. Some of that decision making in public might go
:12:06. > :12:11.and there is an onus on the individuals who take on this role
:12:11. > :12:17.to make sure the public transparently see the decisions
:12:17. > :12:23.that are being taken. There could be some horrendous personality
:12:23. > :12:29.clashes as well, couldn't they? That is a possibility, but most
:12:29. > :12:35.people will want to make that relationship work. I can hear what
:12:35. > :12:39.you are saying. I did not realise that it would not be in an open
:12:39. > :12:45.forum. That is quite worrying. That is not good for transparency, is
:12:45. > :12:53.it? A comeback to the accountability of been elected by
:12:53. > :12:58.the people... There should be accountability and what happened at
:12:58. > :13:04.Hillsborough is one of the greatest police scandals. They should be
:13:04. > :13:09.accountable to the law. It was people power that forced change
:13:09. > :13:13.here. Isn't this an expression... but there were generations of
:13:13. > :13:17.elected politicians, Home Secretaries and others who did not
:13:17. > :13:22.deal with this situation. Are you concerned that a police and crime
:13:22. > :13:26.commissioner might not share your liberal agenda? Not at all. I am
:13:26. > :13:30.making a constitutional point. It is about saying that you need
:13:30. > :13:34.checks and balances in a democracy and you need independent people as
:13:34. > :13:44.well as political people and I would no more have an elected judge,
:13:44. > :13:50.
:13:50. > :13:58.if you have elected judges, Barabbas always walks free. I see
:13:58. > :14:06.it differently. This is a job which relates to, which concerns the
:14:06. > :14:11.allocation of scarce resources. Policing needs are infinite.
:14:11. > :14:18.Someone is to make a decision. Is it a Chief Constable or a freely
:14:18. > :14:21.elected PCC, who has to defend his actions. And every day, the local
:14:21. > :14:25.media will insure this is transparent. Thank you all very
:14:25. > :14:29.much for now. Later we will be looking out what the candidates
:14:29. > :14:34.themselves say they are going to do if they are elected. What their
:14:34. > :14:44.priorities are. These commissioners are going to have a huge effect on
:14:44. > :14:44.
:14:44. > :14:47.Welcome to the Old Jailhouse in Arundel. It's right under the
:14:47. > :14:51.former courtroom, a reminder of a time when justice was maybe a bit
:14:51. > :14:54.more summary than it is today. Here in the South, we're going to be
:14:54. > :14:57.looking at the effects of crime and what the new commissioners can do
:14:57. > :15:00.about that. Should victims get the chance to confront the criminals
:15:00. > :15:05.who have harmed them? First though, let's take a look at who is asking
:15:05. > :15:08.for our vote in the six police force areas in our region. Thames
:15:08. > :15:13.Valley is the largest non- metropolitan force in England and
:15:13. > :15:16.Wales, covering three counties and 196 miles of motorway. There's a
:15:16. > :15:19.range of crime across diverse areas from urban Slough to the
:15:19. > :15:24.Oxfordshire countryside. Two independents have dropped out of
:15:24. > :15:27.the PCC race, saying it's too tough to fight the party machine. But two
:15:27. > :15:34.remain along with Lib Dem, Tory, Although largely rural, Dorset has
:15:34. > :15:39.its fair share of crime. Earlier this year, the force was under
:15:39. > :15:42.pressure after a spate of murders and unexpected deaths. One of the
:15:42. > :15:45.first jobs for the PCC will be finding a new Chief Constable, the
:15:45. > :15:48.previous stepped down just weeks ago, but not before warning that
:15:48. > :15:54.the force has stripped out the back office savings it can and budget
:15:54. > :15:59.cuts would soon have to hit the front line. So a tough job for the
:15:59. > :16:01.Lib Dem, Labour, Tory or independent who wins. Sussex, home
:16:01. > :16:07.to 1.5 million people in rural communities, urban developments and
:16:07. > :16:09.seaside towns. As well as usual duties, police here have to tackle
:16:09. > :16:15.immigration, trafficking and terrorism at the UK's second
:16:15. > :16:19.biggest airport, Gatwick. These competing priorities alongside a
:16:19. > :16:27.�52 million budget cut, will be a challenge for the new PCC, whether
:16:27. > :16:30.it's the independent, UKIP, Labour, Lib Dem or Conservative who wins.
:16:30. > :16:34.Hampshire Police have dealt with cuts by closing police stations and
:16:34. > :16:37.sharing services with nearby Thames Valley. Chief Constable Alex
:16:37. > :16:47.Marshall has run a tight ship, but he's moving on to bigger things,
:16:47. > :16:52.
:16:52. > :16:55.leaving the top cop job open for Two independents are battling Tory,
:16:55. > :16:58.Lib Dem, Labour and UKIP candidates for the job of managing the force's
:16:58. > :17:01.�300 million budget. Each of the major parties and UKIP are fielding
:17:01. > :17:04.candidates in Wiltshire and Surrey and two independents are standing
:17:04. > :17:13.in each county. So, in total, there are 33 people fighting for six PCC
:17:13. > :17:16.roles across the South. A lot of information to take in there. If
:17:16. > :17:20.you want to find out more about any of the candidates you could be
:17:20. > :17:23.voting for, there is a special BBC website with all the details. One
:17:23. > :17:31.area the PCCs will have some power over is victim support. But how
:17:31. > :17:35.will they choose to use it? At the heart of every crime is a victim
:17:35. > :17:37.and it will be the PCC's job to make sure they are not overlooked.
:17:37. > :17:40.They will have to consult with victims before making decisions
:17:40. > :17:43.about policing and they will control budgets for victim support
:17:43. > :17:46.services. That is one of the reasons why we'd encourage people
:17:46. > :17:48.to go out and vote because it will make a massive difference. This
:17:48. > :17:51.vote on 15th November means you're potentially voting for local
:17:51. > :17:53.support services in your area. this year's Conservative Party
:17:53. > :17:56.Conference, the Home Secretary went further, giving the commissioners
:17:56. > :18:00.powers to get victims directly involved in a criminal-justice
:18:00. > :18:03.system. An important new duty on police and crime commissioners, to
:18:03. > :18:10.make sure that victims have a greater say in the punishment of
:18:10. > :18:13.people responsible for anti-social behaviour. In Newbury and Berkshire,
:18:13. > :18:16.they are already trialling this idea. Residents here are being told
:18:16. > :18:19.about a pilot scheme where victims of low-level crimes that would not
:18:19. > :18:25.usually go to court can come face- to-face with those who have wronged
:18:25. > :18:28.them. Restorative justice is about bringing the victim and offender
:18:28. > :18:31.together so that the offender can take responsibility for what they
:18:31. > :18:36.have done, hear the impact of the crime on the victim, give the
:18:36. > :18:39.victim a voice and together try and repair the harm that's been caused.
:18:39. > :18:46.The Newbury scheme is the kind of thing the PCC in your area might
:18:46. > :18:49.want to introduce. Or they might not. From November 15th, they will
:18:49. > :18:55.have the power to decide not just about policing, but also what is
:18:55. > :18:58.best for victims of crime. I am joined now by Rachel who had
:18:58. > :19:01.her home in Worthing burgled last year and by John Wright who's the
:19:01. > :19:06.chairman of Sussex Neighbourhood Watch. Rachel, first, you met the
:19:06. > :19:10.man who burgled your home. What was that like for you? Did it make a
:19:10. > :19:14.difference? I believe it did. We went and visited him in prison and
:19:14. > :19:17.we were able to explain the impact of his crime on us as well as
:19:17. > :19:20.asking some questions that were unanswered for us. I believe that
:19:20. > :19:23.being part of that process, as did the other victims that attended,
:19:23. > :19:29.that it made him question his offending and is likely to prevent
:19:29. > :19:32.him from offending in the future. Is that the kind of scheme you
:19:32. > :19:35.would like the police and crime commissioners to do more of? Is
:19:35. > :19:37.this what you want to see from then? Absolutely. Evidence shows
:19:37. > :19:44.restorative justice is extremely successful and is something that
:19:44. > :19:47.should be invested in and will help to reduce reoffending of offenders.
:19:47. > :19:50.John, Rachel obviously talks from the end result, from the victim of
:19:50. > :19:55.crime, but you want to see crime prevention, that is your business.
:19:55. > :19:59.What do you think the commissioner can do for you? The commissioner
:19:59. > :20:02.can... Because Theresa May has stopped all of the budgets, or
:20:02. > :20:04.halved the budgets, there is going to be a problem in the beginning
:20:04. > :20:14.for them anyway in costs. Neighbourhood Watch is a free
:20:14. > :20:17.organisation. It does not cost anything. We have 126,000 members
:20:17. > :20:20.plus in Sussex. It will not cost anything. Therefore, crime
:20:20. > :20:24.prevention, it has got to be an absolute bonus from their point of
:20:24. > :20:27.view because it is not going to cost anything. For the first time,
:20:27. > :20:30.the commissioner is going to control all of the budgets for
:20:30. > :20:34.organisations like yours and also for victim Support. Will that make
:20:34. > :20:40.it easier because you will have one person to go to and talk to? If we
:20:40. > :20:43.are just going to the PCC, yes. But bearing in mind there are going to
:20:43. > :20:47.be other organisations that will want funding as well or part of
:20:47. > :20:50.some monetary value to put on to what they are looking for. Are you
:20:50. > :20:53.worried you're going to be competing for the same pot of
:20:53. > :20:56.money? We are all going to be competing because whilst we are
:20:56. > :20:59.free and because the Home Office budgets have been cut, there are no
:20:59. > :21:03.leaflets on crime prevention any more, we have to produce our own
:21:03. > :21:08.which at the moment the police can do for us or local councils. But
:21:08. > :21:11.that is going to stop. We need some help. From a victim perspective,
:21:11. > :21:14.the police and crime commissioner will probably be focusing on a lot
:21:14. > :21:19.of what communities want. Are you worried the victims might get
:21:19. > :21:21.overlooked? I hope that would not be the case. I believe they really
:21:21. > :21:25.need to focus on understanding what victims are saying, victims having
:21:25. > :21:30.a voice in the work that they do. And making sure that services are
:21:30. > :21:36.safeguarded with any budget restraints. And what do you think
:21:36. > :21:39.they can do about that? What do you want to see? Budgets are tight.
:21:39. > :21:42.Aside from funding, what can they do? I think it is really important
:21:42. > :21:45.that in Sussex the police and crime commissioner is absolutely clear
:21:45. > :21:48.about what our crime looks like and what services are absolutely needed
:21:48. > :21:52.in Sussex. I think making sure we are smarter at targeting the right
:21:52. > :21:57.services for us in our local area has got to be a good thing.$$WHITE
:21:57. > :22:00.John, do you think this is going to make any difference at all? I think
:22:00. > :22:03.it will because you have got a situation where the PCC must be
:22:03. > :22:06.sitting in with the divisional commander or the chief constable on
:22:06. > :22:12.a regular basis finding out what the methods are or the strands of
:22:12. > :22:19.crime are happening and what they are doing about it. There would be
:22:19. > :22:22.an input. What can they do about the fear of crime in communities?
:22:22. > :22:25.That is one of the big problems, people being worried about their
:22:25. > :22:29.local neighbourhoods. This is where Neighbourhood Watch comes into the
:22:29. > :22:33.fore. We have got ears and eyes of the public. And all of the members
:22:33. > :22:35.we have got, we are like a family. People are they must realise that
:22:36. > :22:38.you're not alone. There are organisations out there that can
:22:38. > :22:43.help you. Victim Support. We help the vulnerable. You have got loads
:22:43. > :22:47.of people out there. Local councils will support. There is always
:22:47. > :22:50.somebody. Don't ever feel alone. The PCC has got to get involved in
:22:50. > :22:55.all of that. Rachel, in one word, tell us what you want from the
:22:55. > :22:58.commissioner. I want them to focus on reducing crime so that we are
:22:58. > :23:02.not victims in the first place. Rachel, John, thank you for being
:23:02. > :23:12.with us. That's it from us that the Old Jailhouse in Arundel. Back to
:23:12. > :23:12.
:23:12. > :23:17.Nicky. There are 193 candidates standing
:23:17. > :23:22.in these elections and each has to produce a statement about what they
:23:22. > :23:26.want to achieve. I have all of them here. Some mention them military
:23:26. > :23:30.backgrounds. Some talk about their former role with the police
:23:30. > :23:38.authority. Here are the words they used more often. The bigger they
:23:38. > :23:45.are, the more they appear. Crime, obviously. 60 references to drugs.
:23:45. > :23:49.Out of 55,000 words, only 30 uses of the word alcohol when 40% of
:23:50. > :23:56.violent crime is fuelled by alcohol. One phrase that is quite common is
:23:56. > :24:00.anti-social behaviour, 117 times. That is the everyday low level
:24:00. > :24:08.nuisance crime so many of us suffer from. You have suffered terribly
:24:08. > :24:15.from it. And also you even got to the stage of setting up CCTV. We
:24:15. > :24:18.will have a look at some of that footage. Talk us through it.
:24:18. > :24:25.Uncontrollable. Targeting us repeatedly. We kept going to court
:24:25. > :24:32.to get them evicted. In the end, life became unbearable. I think the
:24:32. > :24:37.big problem is the fact the police do seem to be not proactive. A
:24:37. > :24:41.crime would happen and they cannot do that anymore, the police...
:24:41. > :24:45.police and crime commissioner elected by the likes of yourself
:24:45. > :24:49.would galvanise them? In principle, it is a good idea that you have
:24:49. > :24:55.someone who is possibly independent because the authorities to mark
:24:55. > :24:58.their own homework all the time. But I do not think they have enough
:24:58. > :25:04.powers. They need power to order cases. As soon as a case has gone
:25:04. > :25:09.on for a year, they are MANAGEMENT, what is going wrong, they start to
:25:09. > :25:15.get other people look at what is going on. It is not just about
:25:15. > :25:18.budgets, it is about understanding why things are ineffectual. Why are
:25:18. > :25:25.numerous crimes committed against people and the people are not
:25:25. > :25:29.caught? Why our prisons not sorting them out? Not enough power. Lord
:25:29. > :25:34.Wasserman, this is a good lead for you, not enough power? There is a
:25:34. > :25:40.certain amount of flexibility, a bit of legroom for more powers to
:25:40. > :25:44.revolve. I think their job is to identify as I said before policing
:25:44. > :25:48.needs and to deal with their chief constables and voluntary
:25:48. > :25:52.organisations and the victims' groups to meet policing needs. I do
:25:52. > :25:56.not think they need power, I think they need leadership. Tell him why
:25:56. > :26:00.you think they do. I totally disagree because the whole problem
:26:00. > :26:03.is when you get beneath the surface of what one chief constable is
:26:03. > :26:09.saying and all of the people fobbing you off, you need to get to
:26:09. > :26:13.the very basics of why that cases such a problem and they need to go
:26:13. > :26:20.in and a cat case management and who is saying and doing what. Why
:26:20. > :26:30.is evidence collection not good enough? Why are you having notable
:26:30. > :26:30.
:26:30. > :26:36.crimes in areas, the same people being targeted? -- multiple crimes.
:26:36. > :26:41.The policeman used to go -- the commissioner would say, I am going
:26:41. > :26:48.to do this for you and he would be elected. Anyone who is any good as
:26:48. > :26:52.a PCC will have a map on his wall and will no weekly, daily, where
:26:52. > :26:58.the crimes are. I have seen this and I know what happens. He will
:26:58. > :27:06.come in and say to the Chief Constable, why have we got another
:27:06. > :27:16.burglary or whatever, robbery, on this estate? Quite a different
:27:16. > :27:22.story from investigating a different... Shami Chakrabarti made
:27:22. > :27:27.an important point. You are a former gang member. People affected
:27:27. > :27:32.by gangs disproportionately live, shall we say, they do not live in
:27:32. > :27:38.the e-fit areas that road in these elections. Will you be listen to?
:27:38. > :27:43.This is what I feel the dangers are. People will feel, how are you going
:27:43. > :27:47.to communicate with these people? The commissioner cannot go down
:27:47. > :27:52.there just once. Then after six months, people do not know who to
:27:52. > :27:57.go to. Do you think someone standing will get the votes from a
:27:57. > :28:02.sweat all will come to you? The perhaps more obvious populist
:28:02. > :28:07.message? If there is support within the communities, the communities
:28:07. > :28:11.will want to help and chains. If they do not here to go to, there
:28:11. > :28:15.needs to be a youth worker, someone there that they can go to and speak
:28:15. > :28:19.to on a regular basis to tackle these issues. Do you think they
:28:19. > :28:24.could be tackled with police and crime commissioners? Definitely.
:28:24. > :28:29.Their knees to the need to move -- more communication. The more we
:28:29. > :28:34.come together, the more we will solve the problem. Thank you very
:28:34. > :28:37.much indeed. That is just half-an- hour and already you can see the
:28:37. > :28:41.size of some of the issues we are talking about. BBC local radio
:28:41. > :28:46.across England will be holding debates from 9am tomorrow so 2 in