Against the Law

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0:00:02 > 0:00:05WHISTLING

0:00:07 > 0:00:09DOOR SLAMS SHUT

0:00:15 > 0:00:18Any man who takes a criminal path...

0:00:24 > 0:00:27..should be mindful of the consequences.

0:00:37 > 0:00:40My name is Peter Wildeblood.

0:00:40 > 0:00:42CHEERING

0:00:42 > 0:00:45Order! Order!

0:00:45 > 0:00:48May I ask the Right Honourable Home Secretary

0:00:48 > 0:00:52the number of cases involving male perversion

0:00:52 > 0:00:57this year, and how he intends to deal with this evil?

0:00:57 > 0:01:00Much of my private life has already been made public

0:01:00 > 0:01:05by the newspapers. So I have nothing left to hide.

0:01:06 > 0:01:11Roughly 5,500 offences have been recorded

0:01:11 > 0:01:14and over 600 offenders

0:01:14 > 0:01:16sent to prison.

0:01:19 > 0:01:23I don't pity myself and I do not ask for pity.

0:01:24 > 0:01:26But I am speaking out...

0:01:29 > 0:01:33..to give some hope and courage to other men like myself,

0:01:33 > 0:01:35and to the rest of the world some...

0:01:38 > 0:01:40..understanding.

0:01:44 > 0:01:47I am...a homosexual.

0:01:53 > 0:01:58So as long as I hold office, I shall give no countenance to

0:01:58 > 0:02:03the view that they should not be prevented from being such a danger.

0:02:28 > 0:02:31MUFFLED MUSIC AND CHATTER

0:02:41 > 0:02:43CHATTER AND LAUGHTER

0:02:44 > 0:02:46Whisky, please.

0:02:53 > 0:02:54Thank you.

0:03:01 > 0:03:03INDISTINCT CHATTER

0:03:28 > 0:03:31TRAIN WHISTLE BLOWS

0:03:31 > 0:03:34INDISTINCT RAILWAY ANNOUNCEMENT

0:03:47 > 0:03:50I wonder, could I buy you a drink?

0:03:51 > 0:03:53Doesn't work that way, darling.

0:03:53 > 0:03:56Unless you're willing to play the part.

0:03:58 > 0:03:59Oh, no.

0:04:01 > 0:04:04So you're not a queen, then?

0:04:04 > 0:04:07It's a pity, you're quite pretty, really.

0:04:08 > 0:04:10Not a rough, either.

0:04:10 > 0:04:11I'm a homosexual.

0:04:11 > 0:04:13A what?

0:04:13 > 0:04:14A homosexual.

0:04:14 > 0:04:16Homosexual?

0:04:16 > 0:04:18I see.

0:04:18 > 0:04:22I thought that was just something doctors called us.

0:04:22 > 0:04:24Do all the queens use this word now?

0:04:24 > 0:04:26I don't know.

0:04:26 > 0:04:28I'm not sure I like it.

0:04:28 > 0:04:30Come along, Fanny dear.

0:04:30 > 0:04:31See you later, dear heart.

0:04:31 > 0:04:33Coming, Ducky.

0:04:35 > 0:04:37DOOR CLOSES

0:04:51 > 0:04:52- VOICEOVER:- At that particular time

0:04:52 > 0:04:55there was a, you might call it a purge,

0:04:55 > 0:04:57on people who were gay.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00We were considered sick.

0:05:00 > 0:05:05We were considered, er, you know, child molesters.

0:05:05 > 0:05:09The police went out of their way to catch you and...and...

0:05:09 > 0:05:13and the Members of Parliament, "This filth and this...

0:05:13 > 0:05:16"This is going to ruin the nation, we must...we must stub it out."

0:05:16 > 0:05:18I can't remember the name of the, erm,

0:05:18 > 0:05:21the Home Secretary at the time, but he was one of the worst.

0:05:21 > 0:05:24David Maxwell Fyfe, Sir David Maxwell Fyfe,

0:05:24 > 0:05:27later Viscount Kilmuir.

0:05:29 > 0:05:37Well, he embodied all the worst attitudes

0:05:37 > 0:05:39of the British Establishment.

0:05:39 > 0:05:43You could be arrested for just looking at somebody...

0:05:44 > 0:05:48..in the street, you know, winking at them or smiling at them.

0:05:49 > 0:05:54And, er, I thought this is mad, this world has gone a bit potty.

0:05:54 > 0:05:57I have to say it made it even more exciting

0:05:57 > 0:06:03because, you know, it is exciting, er, avoiding the police,

0:06:03 > 0:06:10keeping a look out. It's like being a member of an underground sect,

0:06:10 > 0:06:14or something, er, and you get a great kick out of it.

0:06:14 > 0:06:17Wherever you went was liable to be raided...

0:06:19 > 0:06:24..um, whether it was a pub or it was a private drinking club

0:06:24 > 0:06:27or it was a private party.

0:06:28 > 0:06:33And you would have your name and address printed in the paper.

0:06:46 > 0:06:50Oh! Oh, I'm sorry! Oh.

0:06:50 > 0:06:52It's... It's fine.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01Um, do you need directions?

0:07:01 > 0:07:03No.

0:07:03 > 0:07:08No, I'm, erm... I'm just... I'm down off leave from Ely.

0:07:10 > 0:07:14And, er, it's going to rain again.

0:07:14 > 0:07:16Any minute.

0:07:34 > 0:07:39So, um, if you want to stay, there's a sofa,

0:07:39 > 0:07:42which should be perfectly comfortable.

0:07:42 > 0:07:46Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it should.

0:07:46 > 0:07:48Yeah, it's a bit small.

0:07:55 > 0:07:57And besides...

0:08:01 > 0:08:06..you and I could, er, fuck here.

0:08:08 > 0:08:10Live a little.

0:09:35 > 0:09:38HE CHUCKLES

0:09:40 > 0:09:41What?

0:09:42 > 0:09:45"You and I could fuck maybe?"

0:09:47 > 0:09:48What?

0:09:50 > 0:09:52The romance of it.

0:09:53 > 0:09:55Dead romantic.

0:09:55 > 0:09:57That's one of my best lines.

0:10:09 > 0:10:11You heading back to Ely?

0:10:11 > 0:10:12In two days, yep.

0:10:15 > 0:10:16So what do you do?

0:10:16 > 0:10:19I'm a journalist.

0:10:19 > 0:10:21Oh, right. Which paper?

0:10:21 > 0:10:23The Mail.

0:10:23 > 0:10:24Nice.

0:10:24 > 0:10:28Not really. It's... Well, it's quite dull, actually.

0:10:42 > 0:10:45Well, it was nice meeting you.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49I'll, erm, you know?

0:10:49 > 0:10:52Keep in touch. I mean it.

0:10:54 > 0:10:55Do you want me to?

0:11:00 > 0:11:02- Well, yes. I...- All right, then.

0:11:27 > 0:11:31Being a gay was a very tricky business.

0:11:31 > 0:11:37It was frowned upon by society, it was punishable

0:11:37 > 0:11:44by imprisonment, it was illegal, it was everything you could mention.

0:11:44 > 0:11:47I mean, you couldn't even talk about it. Erm...

0:11:47 > 0:11:51I felt very uncomfortable about it. Certainly.

0:11:51 > 0:11:56If heterosexuals had been subject to the force of law for being

0:11:56 > 0:12:01heterosexual, if their relations had been frowned upon, it's most

0:12:01 > 0:12:04unlikely that they would have settled into long-term marriages.

0:12:04 > 0:12:08They had public opinion and the law behind them.

0:12:08 > 0:12:10In the case of homosexuals, the law

0:12:10 > 0:12:14and public opinion were very distinctly against them, so I think

0:12:14 > 0:12:20the whole climate was opposed to the building of relationships.

0:12:20 > 0:12:24In fact, I think many gay people half believed, because they were

0:12:24 > 0:12:29told so often, that if you were gay you couldn't have a relationship.

0:12:31 > 0:12:35It was a no-no, so I had to be on my own.

0:12:36 > 0:12:41And, erm, so I've been used to it, since...since childhood,

0:12:41 > 0:12:47being a loner. Never enjoyed it, I can tell you, it was awful.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49But that's the way it is.

0:12:55 > 0:12:57KNOCK ON DOOR

0:13:01 > 0:13:04Well, would you look at that. He meant what he said.

0:13:27 > 0:13:29Fancy a kickaround?

0:13:29 > 0:13:31You're joking.

0:13:31 > 0:13:33Not physical, then?

0:13:35 > 0:13:36Not even at school?

0:13:36 > 0:13:41Football? I was useless, always the last to get picked.

0:13:41 > 0:13:43I can imagine, actually.

0:13:43 > 0:13:46I used to just gather with all the other outcasts.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51Teachers despised us for it.

0:13:53 > 0:13:57One of them said, "Oh, yes, there they are.

0:13:59 > 0:14:05"The sops. Sops of a feather flock together."

0:14:15 > 0:14:17Come on.

0:14:33 > 0:14:36- Is that you?- Oh, stop it!

0:14:41 > 0:14:44We have to be a lot more careful than that.

0:14:44 > 0:14:46I know, I know, I'm...unschooled.

0:14:46 > 0:14:48You're telling me.

0:14:49 > 0:14:52Am I the only poof you know?

0:14:52 > 0:14:56No. I know Edward, Lord Montagu, through my work.

0:14:59 > 0:15:04Smile all you like, Mr Inverted Snob, he is very nice.

0:15:10 > 0:15:12So it's love, then?

0:15:12 > 0:15:15To be honest, I never thought you'd come out of your shell far enough.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17Neither did I.

0:15:17 > 0:15:19What's his appeal?

0:15:22 > 0:15:25He's...confident...

0:15:27 > 0:15:29..physical,

0:15:29 > 0:15:32a bit...dim, sort of.

0:15:35 > 0:15:38I suppose I always thought...

0:15:41 > 0:15:43Go on.

0:15:45 > 0:15:47I thought I'd meet a boy like him

0:15:47 > 0:15:53and he would make me brave, and in return...

0:15:55 > 0:15:57..I would make him wise.

0:15:57 > 0:16:00You're blushing.

0:16:00 > 0:16:04All right, it's stupid, you know, it's comradeship.

0:16:06 > 0:16:09Plato wrote something along those lines, do you know it?

0:16:09 > 0:16:15Two men, very different strengths, but when they come together...

0:16:17 > 0:16:20..an army of such lovers could conquer the world.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26Bring him down to Beaulieu.

0:16:26 > 0:16:28When did you last have a holiday?

0:16:28 > 0:16:31Oh, God. Three, four years ago.

0:16:31 > 0:16:33Bring him down to Beaulieu.

0:16:34 > 0:16:35Hmm.

0:16:49 > 0:16:51Just a small party...

0:16:53 > 0:16:55God, you are such a...

0:16:57 > 0:16:59Live a little.

0:16:59 > 0:17:01Yes?

0:17:06 > 0:17:08MUSIC PLAYS

0:17:11 > 0:17:14INDISTINCT CHATTER

0:17:18 > 0:17:21Well, I think this party is really rather...

0:17:21 > 0:17:24Boring? Boring as fuck?

0:17:24 > 0:17:26Yes. That's about the size of it.

0:17:27 > 0:17:31I thought the aristocracy knew how to let its hair down.

0:17:31 > 0:17:33Uh-uh. You thought wrong.

0:17:56 > 0:17:58What happened to "be careful"?

0:17:58 > 0:18:01No-one about, you daft ape.

0:18:03 > 0:18:10# You took the part that once was my heart

0:18:10 > 0:18:14# So why not take all of me? #

0:18:14 > 0:18:16- Three weeks.- I know.

0:18:25 > 0:18:27# ..All of me

0:18:27 > 0:18:32# Why not take all of me?

0:18:32 > 0:18:35# Can't you see... #

0:18:35 > 0:18:38You're blossoming, Mr Wildeblood.

0:18:38 > 0:18:40# ..I'm no good without you?

0:18:42 > 0:18:45# Take my lips

0:18:45 > 0:18:49# I want to lose them... #

0:18:49 > 0:18:51TRAIN RUMBLES PAST

0:18:51 > 0:18:53# ..Take my arms

0:18:53 > 0:18:58# I'll never use them

0:19:00 > 0:19:03# Your goodbye

0:19:03 > 0:19:07# Left me with eyes that cry

0:19:09 > 0:19:15# How can I go on, dear, without you? #

0:19:15 > 0:19:21My dearest, darling Eddie, I love you so much.

0:19:21 > 0:19:26# ..You took the best Why not take the rest? #

0:19:26 > 0:19:29There, I've said it.

0:19:29 > 0:19:34# ..Baby, take all of me... #

0:19:39 > 0:19:42In the '50s, homosexuals, erm, were in...

0:19:42 > 0:19:47were in a kind of secret world of their own. It was, erm...

0:19:47 > 0:19:53They were on another, rather delightful planet, in a way.

0:19:53 > 0:19:57It was fabulous, I was doing whatever young people do,

0:19:57 > 0:20:01I wanted to dance, I wanted to have beautiful clothes,

0:20:01 > 0:20:05I wanted to have lots of sex, I wanted somebody to love me.

0:20:05 > 0:20:10It was a world in which there was no class difference at all and

0:20:10 > 0:20:14that, I think, was one of the things which made it very, very attractive.

0:20:14 > 0:20:17Members of the upper classes have always fancied

0:20:17 > 0:20:19members of the lower classes.

0:20:19 > 0:20:22I was never actually particularly attracted to posh boys,

0:20:22 > 0:20:25but I did sometimes meet them if they looked right.

0:20:25 > 0:20:30And...and so I did find myself in the situation

0:20:30 > 0:20:37of mixing with a much wider range of social classes,

0:20:37 > 0:20:41I think, than straight boys of my background would have done.

0:20:41 > 0:20:48There was this strong sense of community within the gay world,

0:20:48 > 0:20:53and that rendered us not impervious

0:20:53 > 0:20:58but able to resist these awful...

0:20:58 > 0:21:04this, how shall I say, this constant barrage of propaganda,

0:21:04 > 0:21:08of depiction of us as being evil.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11THUNDER RUMBLES

0:21:16 > 0:21:18PHONE RINGS

0:21:18 > 0:21:19Wildeblood.

0:21:19 > 0:21:21Peter, it's Edward.

0:21:21 > 0:21:23Oh, hello, Edward.

0:21:23 > 0:21:24Are you alone?

0:21:26 > 0:21:28Yes.

0:21:29 > 0:21:31I'm at the police station.

0:21:31 > 0:21:35I called them about a camera that went missing at my place.

0:21:36 > 0:21:40I was - am - fairly sure it was one of the Boy Scouts

0:21:40 > 0:21:43we have showing the public round on open days.

0:21:43 > 0:21:45That's terrible.

0:21:49 > 0:21:55The Boy Scout made certain... allegations against me.

0:21:55 > 0:21:57False, of course.

0:22:00 > 0:22:04I'm a public figure, Peter. They're trying to make an example of me.

0:22:07 > 0:22:09Well, I thought you should know.

0:22:10 > 0:22:12Yes, thank you, Edward.

0:22:15 > 0:22:16Good luck.

0:22:26 > 0:22:29- NEWS REPORT:- At Winchester Assizes, the trial of Lord Montagu continues.

0:22:29 > 0:22:33He stands accused of indecently assaulting...

0:22:35 > 0:22:37- NEWS REPORT:- He took the stand to claim his innocence

0:22:37 > 0:22:40and said he was the victim of a police witch-hunt...

0:22:47 > 0:22:51- NEWS REPORT:- The news at five o'clock. Lord Montagu of Beaulieu

0:22:51 > 0:22:55was today acquitted of several counts of indecent assault.

0:22:55 > 0:22:59The jury's decision was unanimous and brings to an end

0:22:59 > 0:23:03an acrimonious trial in which Lord Montagu claimed

0:23:03 > 0:23:05to be the victim of a smear campaign.

0:23:11 > 0:23:13When the trial collapsed

0:23:13 > 0:23:17and the public realised that it was all manufactured evidence,

0:23:17 > 0:23:24the general public, erm, did find that, erm, distasteful.

0:23:24 > 0:23:29It made me feel angry, really. I mean, I look back on it

0:23:29 > 0:23:33and thought, yeah, I was quite angry about this rubbish, you know?

0:23:33 > 0:23:35I got quite worked up about it.

0:23:35 > 0:23:38I mean, all gay men throughout...

0:23:38 > 0:23:42throughout the country felt that, and not only gay men

0:23:42 > 0:23:45but the general public, luckily, were feeling that.

0:23:48 > 0:23:51Why is Montagu being harassed like this?

0:23:51 > 0:23:54You know, what is the point?

0:23:54 > 0:23:57It seemed to me, it did turn public opinion against

0:23:57 > 0:23:59all that was going on.

0:24:01 > 0:24:05But, on the other hand, I think there was a kind of feeling among

0:24:05 > 0:24:10the police force that would get him in the end.

0:24:20 > 0:24:21Thank you.

0:24:26 > 0:24:28DOOR CLOSES

0:24:32 > 0:24:34Mm-hm. Oh...

0:24:34 > 0:24:36Mm?

0:24:37 > 0:24:40These letters - who wrote them?

0:24:44 > 0:24:46You know who wrote them.

0:24:46 > 0:24:48I want to hear it from you.

0:24:50 > 0:24:53Give me the dirt on Montagu and his two pals.

0:24:55 > 0:24:58Look, you might lose your job but I'll keep you out of prison.

0:25:01 > 0:25:03KNOCK ON DOOR

0:25:06 > 0:25:08Are you Peter Wildeblood?

0:25:08 > 0:25:09Yes.

0:25:09 > 0:25:12I'm arresting you on charges of gross indecency

0:25:12 > 0:25:14and buggery with certain other male persons.

0:25:14 > 0:25:16Where do you sleep?

0:25:16 > 0:25:18My bedroom is upstairs.

0:25:18 > 0:25:19Anyone up there?

0:25:19 > 0:25:20No.

0:25:25 > 0:25:27Don't you have a warrant?

0:25:38 > 0:25:39Sit down.

0:25:48 > 0:25:50You were in Beaulieu this summer?

0:25:51 > 0:25:53Yes.

0:25:54 > 0:25:56Are these your parents?

0:25:57 > 0:25:59Yes.

0:25:59 > 0:26:02And this one is Edward McNally?

0:26:11 > 0:26:12Is this your handwriting?

0:26:16 > 0:26:18Yes.

0:26:57 > 0:27:00This could go very badly for you.

0:27:00 > 0:27:01Very badly indeed.

0:27:11 > 0:27:13What you should do is make a statement

0:27:13 > 0:27:17and you just get bound over, make a clean breast of things.

0:27:17 > 0:27:21Tell me about Montagu and his chum Pitt-Rivers and all of them,

0:27:21 > 0:27:25- then I think you... - No. No, I couldn't do that.

0:27:25 > 0:27:26And why not?

0:27:26 > 0:27:28Because...

0:27:35 > 0:27:36Because....

0:27:39 > 0:27:41..sops of a feather flock together.

0:27:43 > 0:27:45Hadn't you heard?

0:28:45 > 0:28:48The ones, for example, who had previous convictions,

0:28:48 > 0:28:54it would be a fair cop, very sorry, plead guilty.

0:28:54 > 0:29:00Those who had never experienced the police intruding would be

0:29:00 > 0:29:03very upset and they were the more likely ones who would plead

0:29:03 > 0:29:06not guilty and challenge every aspect of the observations.

0:29:08 > 0:29:13I still say it was an inherent weakness, and still is.

0:29:15 > 0:29:21They went into these practices knowing that there's a great

0:29:21 > 0:29:25element of risk of being arrested, being exposed,

0:29:25 > 0:29:27if you'll pardon the expression.

0:29:27 > 0:29:33Three or four weeks after I met Lee, I realised without doubt

0:29:33 > 0:29:37that he was the one person I wanted to spend the rest of my life with.

0:29:37 > 0:29:41I wrote him a long letter telling him of my feelings for him

0:29:41 > 0:29:44and my hopes for us. I thought

0:29:44 > 0:29:47he'd be so pleased about this letter and I couldn't believe it,

0:29:47 > 0:29:50he was so angry. I said, "What's the matter?" He said,

0:29:50 > 0:29:53"Well, the letter you sent to me

0:29:53 > 0:29:56"could have landed us both in prison."

0:29:58 > 0:30:02I was 14 years old and I had a boyfriend

0:30:02 > 0:30:07and he had written me a letter, very stupidly,

0:30:07 > 0:30:09and I had dropped the letter

0:30:09 > 0:30:13and my father said, "What's this?"

0:30:13 > 0:30:14I can remember him now,

0:30:14 > 0:30:16God bless him,

0:30:16 > 0:30:21"I'm having no son of mine a queer, you're going to the doctor."

0:30:21 > 0:30:27So I was taken down to the doctor, who said, "You've got a disease."

0:30:27 > 0:30:30This is great. "You've got a disease."

0:30:30 > 0:30:34I never accepted that I had an illness.

0:30:34 > 0:30:36I accepted that I preferred

0:30:36 > 0:30:42to go to bed with a man rather than a woman. I didn't see that

0:30:42 > 0:30:46as an illness, but I did see it as something that you kept to yourself,

0:30:46 > 0:30:49because of... because of the implications,

0:30:49 > 0:30:52because of the consequences if you didn't.

0:30:57 > 0:31:01You are each charged with gross indecency,

0:31:01 > 0:31:06buggery, attempted buggery, aiding and abetting buggery,

0:31:06 > 0:31:10procuring male persons for acts of gross indecency,

0:31:10 > 0:31:15and conspiracy to incite male persons to commit gross indecency.

0:31:17 > 0:31:21To each of these charges, how do you, Edward Montagu, plead?

0:31:21 > 0:31:24Not guilty.

0:31:24 > 0:31:27To each of these charges, how do you, Michael Pitt-Rivers, plead?

0:31:27 > 0:31:29Not guilty.

0:31:29 > 0:31:34And to each of these charges, how do you, Peter Wildeblood, plead?

0:31:34 > 0:31:35Not guilty.

0:31:40 > 0:31:42KEY RATTLES IN LOCK

0:31:54 > 0:31:55All right?

0:31:56 > 0:31:57I've been better.

0:31:59 > 0:32:00Right.

0:32:00 > 0:32:03The form is, basically we deny everything,

0:32:03 > 0:32:05none of us are queer,

0:32:05 > 0:32:08we've never dabbled, never even been tempted.

0:32:08 > 0:32:09Right?

0:32:09 > 0:32:12It's very hard to prove.

0:32:12 > 0:32:16Love on a page means nothing.

0:32:20 > 0:32:22I thought we'd be all right.

0:32:23 > 0:32:25We were discreet.

0:32:27 > 0:32:30- Why are they doing this? - Just stay calm, Peter.

0:32:41 > 0:32:44The case for the prosecution begins with Wildeblood.

0:32:44 > 0:32:49In March 1952, Wildeblood met an RAF corporal in Piccadilly.

0:32:49 > 0:32:53His name is McNally and he'll be called as a witness.

0:32:53 > 0:32:57McNally is a pervert. Wildeblood took him back to his flat

0:32:57 > 0:33:02and there committed an offence, namely buggery, with this McNally.

0:33:02 > 0:33:05McNally had a friend called John Reynolds, also a queer.

0:33:05 > 0:33:08You've probably heard of that term.

0:33:10 > 0:33:14Wildeblood was a friend of Lord Montagu.

0:33:14 > 0:33:17Mention was made to Lord Montagu of this John Reynolds,

0:33:17 > 0:33:21introductions were arranged, offences against Reynolds

0:33:21 > 0:33:25were committed by Montagu at Wildeblood's flat in London,

0:33:25 > 0:33:29and on a trip to Beaulieu, joined by Michael Pitt-Rivers,

0:33:29 > 0:33:31an orgy took place.

0:33:33 > 0:33:37McNally and Reynolds are men of the lowest possible moral character.

0:33:39 > 0:33:44Taken under the seductive influence of lavish hospitality of

0:33:44 > 0:33:48these three men so infinitely their social superiors,

0:33:48 > 0:33:51they were willing parties to unnatural acts.

0:33:51 > 0:33:55It would be dangerous to convict any of the defendants

0:33:55 > 0:33:58purely on the evidence of men such as McNally and Reynolds.

0:33:58 > 0:34:00We hope to satisfy you by letters,

0:34:00 > 0:34:04and other documents, that there is copious confirmation that

0:34:04 > 0:34:09the story these men, Reynolds and McNally, are telling is true.

0:34:19 > 0:34:21And on that date in December,

0:34:21 > 0:34:24when you attended his property, did you see Wildeblood?

0:34:24 > 0:34:26He came to the door.

0:34:26 > 0:34:27Where did you go with him?

0:34:27 > 0:34:29To the living room.

0:34:29 > 0:34:31Did you suggest to him that he write a statement?

0:34:31 > 0:34:32No, sir.

0:34:32 > 0:34:36Did you promise him that if he write a statement he'd just be bound over?

0:34:36 > 0:34:39- I did not. - And the letters you showed him,

0:34:39 > 0:34:43he recognised these as letters written by himself and McNally?

0:34:43 > 0:34:45Indeed he did, sir.

0:34:49 > 0:34:52I didn't think this could happen in Britain.

0:34:52 > 0:34:53I didn't think the police...

0:34:53 > 0:34:55Well, now you know.

0:34:56 > 0:34:59The rotten apples aren't the odd ones out, Peter.

0:35:04 > 0:35:07They're bastards. Jesus.

0:35:07 > 0:35:08Try to stay calm.

0:35:18 > 0:35:19You're next, McNally.

0:35:23 > 0:35:25Call Edward McNally.

0:35:51 > 0:35:54You are Edward McNally?

0:35:54 > 0:35:55Yes.

0:35:55 > 0:35:59- Do you know the accused, Peter Wildeblood?- Yes.

0:35:59 > 0:36:03Look at the accused and confirm that he is the man known to you.

0:36:05 > 0:36:09When you spent the night at his flat, where did you sleep?

0:36:09 > 0:36:11In the bedroom with Wildeblood.

0:36:11 > 0:36:13Did anything occur between you?

0:36:15 > 0:36:18We committed buggery with each other.

0:36:19 > 0:36:23Did you write this letter to him, exhibit 44?

0:36:27 > 0:36:29Yes.

0:36:29 > 0:36:33"Dearest Peter, I've really got it bad, sweetheart.

0:36:33 > 0:36:36"In fact, I haven't felt so happy for a long time.

0:36:36 > 0:36:39"Just to let you know, I haven't forgotten you

0:36:39 > 0:36:43"and I never will." Did you mean those words?

0:36:44 > 0:36:46I thought I did, sir.

0:36:46 > 0:36:50Were you what you would describe as "in love" with Peter Wildeblood?

0:36:53 > 0:36:55Yes, sir.

0:36:55 > 0:36:58Did you receive this letter from him, exhibit 45?

0:37:02 > 0:37:04Yes.

0:37:04 > 0:37:07"You are so much a part of my life that I do not think

0:37:07 > 0:37:09"I could ever do without you.

0:37:09 > 0:37:11"I love you as much now as I did

0:37:11 > 0:37:14"when we spent our lovely holiday together.

0:37:14 > 0:37:17"The happiest time..."

0:37:22 > 0:37:24Did you believe those words?

0:37:24 > 0:37:26I suppose so, sir.

0:37:26 > 0:37:30Did you believe Peter Wildeblood to be in love with you?

0:37:32 > 0:37:34Yes, sir.

0:37:48 > 0:37:50Why did he do this to me?

0:37:52 > 0:37:55Why did Eddie do this?

0:37:55 > 0:37:56You know why he did it.

0:37:58 > 0:38:00To save his own skin.

0:38:04 > 0:38:06Forget him.

0:38:24 > 0:38:27I joined the Navy ten days before my 17th birthday.

0:38:30 > 0:38:34It was on HMS Reggio that I was,

0:38:34 > 0:38:40um, er, to put it...crudely...

0:38:40 > 0:38:42caught in the act.

0:38:42 > 0:38:46I was, er, court martialled, charged with

0:38:46 > 0:38:52buggery and gross indecency, then I was asked to give

0:38:52 > 0:38:55the names of the people with whom I had slept

0:38:55 > 0:39:02or had anything to do with, and was told, "If you tell us their names,

0:39:02 > 0:39:05"you're looking at 12 months.

0:39:05 > 0:39:10"If you don't tell us their names, you're looking at five years."

0:39:12 > 0:39:16I gave them the name of an Army officer with whom

0:39:16 > 0:39:19I had spent a night ashore.

0:39:23 > 0:39:29They found him, and one day the warder, screw,

0:39:29 > 0:39:32came in and said, "The chap's blown his brains out."

0:39:34 > 0:39:39And that is something which I've had to live with...

0:39:41 > 0:39:44..for over 60 years.

0:39:47 > 0:39:50Erm, it is still...

0:39:52 > 0:39:54I hate myself for it...

0:39:55 > 0:39:57..but it was just one of those things.

0:40:05 > 0:40:07Call Peter Wildeblood.

0:40:07 > 0:40:09DOOR OPENS

0:40:25 > 0:40:27Place your right hand on the Bible,

0:40:27 > 0:40:30take the card in your other hand and read the statement.

0:40:30 > 0:40:32"I swear to tell the truth,

0:40:32 > 0:40:35"the whole truth and nothing but the truth."

0:40:40 > 0:40:42Counsel for the defence.

0:40:44 > 0:40:48- Is your name Peter Wildeblood? - Yes.

0:40:49 > 0:40:52Are you a homosexual, Mr Wildeblood?

0:40:54 > 0:40:56Yes, I am.

0:41:00 > 0:41:03Thinking back to July 1952,

0:41:03 > 0:41:08how would you describe your relationship with Edward McNally?

0:41:09 > 0:41:12I'd become fond of him.

0:41:14 > 0:41:18He is not educated but he is intelligent.

0:41:18 > 0:41:23My work made me live in a kind of way I didn't much enjoy

0:41:23 > 0:41:27and I liked to be able to relax with someone who is quite simple,

0:41:27 > 0:41:30unpretentious and fond of me.

0:41:30 > 0:41:34What kind of letters was he writing to you?

0:41:34 > 0:41:36They were emotional letters.

0:41:36 > 0:41:39They contained endearments of an unusual kind

0:41:39 > 0:41:41for two men to exchange.

0:41:41 > 0:41:44And you wrote similar letters to him?

0:41:44 > 0:41:47I was extremely lonely at that time.

0:41:48 > 0:41:51You are familiar with what happened to Oscar Wilde?

0:41:51 > 0:41:54Oscar Wilde was accused of gross indecency.

0:41:54 > 0:41:59I have never committed gross indecency nor buggery with anybody.

0:41:59 > 0:42:03- You never committed these offences with Edward McNally?- No.

0:42:11 > 0:42:13Mr Wildeblood, when you went into this box,

0:42:13 > 0:42:16- you took the oath in solemn form, you realise that?- Yes.

0:42:16 > 0:42:20To tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

0:42:20 > 0:42:21Yes.

0:42:21 > 0:42:23You know that we've heard McNally,

0:42:23 > 0:42:26your friend of some 21 months, describe in detail

0:42:26 > 0:42:30what took place between you and him. You've heard the letters

0:42:30 > 0:42:33sent by you to him during this time read out in this court.

0:42:33 > 0:42:37- Do you still say you've told the whole truth?- I do.

0:42:39 > 0:42:43Have you any suggestion, then, as to why McNally would tell such

0:42:43 > 0:42:45wicked lies about you?

0:42:45 > 0:42:49Well, I should have thought his motive was perfectly obvious.

0:42:49 > 0:42:51He did it to save his own skin.

0:42:51 > 0:42:54Were you attracted to McNally?

0:42:54 > 0:42:56I was not physically attracted to him.

0:42:56 > 0:42:59How do you say you were attracted to him, then?

0:42:59 > 0:43:01- Emotionally.- Emotionally?

0:43:02 > 0:43:07This McNally was very much your social inferior. Why then...

0:43:07 > 0:43:11During the war, I fought alongside men from many different backgrounds.

0:43:11 > 0:43:13I don't recall anyone objecting then.

0:43:13 > 0:43:17Before God, I entirely commend that sentiment, Mr Wildeblood,

0:43:17 > 0:43:19but what the jury may wish to know is this.

0:43:20 > 0:43:26Why would you, a highly intelligent man, a beautiful writer,

0:43:26 > 0:43:28want to spend 21 months

0:43:28 > 0:43:34of his life with an uneducated RAF corporal from the pits of Glasgow?

0:43:37 > 0:43:41That night in Piccadilly when you met, did you smile at each other?

0:43:44 > 0:43:46I cannot remember.

0:43:46 > 0:43:49When you got into conversation, did a smile pass between you?

0:43:49 > 0:43:50I should think possibly, yes.

0:43:50 > 0:43:53- And you took him back to your flat? - He had nowhere to go.

0:43:53 > 0:43:54- Resisted all temptation?- Yes.

0:43:54 > 0:43:56Didn't even kiss him?

0:43:56 > 0:43:57No, I did not.

0:43:59 > 0:44:04You never felt the need for physical expression of a healthy,

0:44:04 > 0:44:06emotional young man?

0:44:06 > 0:44:09I was incapable of sexual expression.

0:44:09 > 0:44:11Incapable?

0:44:14 > 0:44:16- Have you consulted a doctor?- No.

0:44:18 > 0:44:21"Dearest Peter, I've really got it bad, sweetheart."

0:44:21 > 0:44:23What had he got bad? Love, was it not?

0:44:23 > 0:44:25I don't accept for a moment...

0:44:25 > 0:44:27"In fact, I haven't felt so happy for a long time."

0:44:27 > 0:44:30Because of his friendship with you, yes?

0:44:31 > 0:44:35Because of his friendship with you? Yes?

0:44:35 > 0:44:36Yes.

0:44:40 > 0:44:42"This is being written in bed.

0:44:42 > 0:44:46"Wish you were here. But the RAF have definite views on such things."

0:44:49 > 0:44:53Would a young man write those words to you if you

0:44:53 > 0:44:55and he had not been intimate?

0:44:55 > 0:44:57Well, this young man would.

0:44:57 > 0:45:00"My dearest, darling Eddie,

0:45:00 > 0:45:03"oh, how relieved I was to hear from you at last.

0:45:03 > 0:45:07"You are so much a part of my life that I do not think

0:45:07 > 0:45:09"I could ever do without you." Is that right?

0:45:11 > 0:45:13He was a part of my life.

0:45:13 > 0:45:15"I love you as much now as I did

0:45:15 > 0:45:17"when we spent our lovely holiday together."

0:45:17 > 0:45:20On this holiday, you spent that whole time resisting temptation?

0:45:20 > 0:45:23- Yes.- What, then, made it so happy for you?

0:45:23 > 0:45:27The friendship, you know, the... the conversation, the...

0:45:29 > 0:45:31..the bathing.

0:45:31 > 0:45:33The weather?

0:45:35 > 0:45:38"All the love I've ever known, P."

0:45:44 > 0:45:47That was all the love I have ever known.

0:45:48 > 0:45:51The arrest must have placed a considerable burden on you?

0:46:02 > 0:46:04If you're born a sexual invert you will always have

0:46:04 > 0:46:07a burden on your soul.

0:46:07 > 0:46:09If there was any way of getting rid of it

0:46:09 > 0:46:12I should only be too pleased

0:46:12 > 0:46:14because it has been a handicap to me

0:46:14 > 0:46:17and led to nothing but loneliness and unhappiness.

0:46:19 > 0:46:21I have no further questions.

0:46:22 > 0:46:24Witness is dismissed.

0:46:43 > 0:46:45To the charge of buggery, do you find

0:46:45 > 0:46:48the defendants guilty or not guilty?

0:46:50 > 0:46:52Guilty.

0:46:54 > 0:46:56To the charge of gross indecency,

0:46:56 > 0:47:00do you find the defendants guilty or not guilty?

0:47:00 > 0:47:02Guilty.

0:47:03 > 0:47:06To the charge of conspiracy to incite male persons to commit

0:47:06 > 0:47:11gross indecency, do you find the defendants guilty or not guilty?

0:47:11 > 0:47:13Guilty.

0:47:14 > 0:47:18To the charge of procuring male persons for acts of gross indecency,

0:47:18 > 0:47:21do you find the defendants guilty or not guilty?

0:47:21 > 0:47:23SPEECH FADES

0:47:52 > 0:47:54- NEWS REPORT:- The Montagu trial ended today

0:47:54 > 0:47:57with jail terms for all three accused.

0:47:57 > 0:48:00Mr Justice Ormerod passed sentences of 12 months'

0:48:00 > 0:48:01imprisonment on Lord Montagu,

0:48:01 > 0:48:05and 18 months each on Michael Pitt-Rivers and Peter Wildeblood.

0:48:13 > 0:48:17I'd read all about it in the newspapers

0:48:17 > 0:48:19and I thought, "Good God, it's awful."

0:48:19 > 0:48:23They were determined to get verdicts of guilty on the three men

0:48:23 > 0:48:27involved - Montagu, Wildeblood and Michael Pitt-Rivers -

0:48:27 > 0:48:32and they were sent to prison of course, and the two airmen

0:48:32 > 0:48:35who testified against them were given immunity.

0:48:35 > 0:48:38I didn't know how Peter Wildeblood, how he was...

0:48:38 > 0:48:41how the judiciary and the police behaved.

0:48:41 > 0:48:43I didn't understand that and when...

0:48:43 > 0:48:46I mean, when I read it, I was filled with terror.

0:48:46 > 0:48:49This is the kind of stuff that was reality, it was real,

0:48:49 > 0:48:52this is what happened to you if you were gay.

0:48:52 > 0:48:59It was pretty heavy duty, erm, I don't know how it didn't

0:48:59 > 0:49:02deter me completely and, of course, it did deter lots of people.

0:49:02 > 0:49:06There were lots of very unhappy gay people

0:49:06 > 0:49:09really trying hard to be straight.

0:49:09 > 0:49:14Gradually, people were talking. Whereas this had been a taboo,

0:49:14 > 0:49:17now it was a taboo that was being discussed.

0:49:17 > 0:49:20That gave me an edge of hope,

0:49:20 > 0:49:23when I didn't have very much of that around me.

0:50:20 > 0:50:22DOOR SLAMS SHUT

0:50:49 > 0:50:51KNOCKING

0:51:13 > 0:51:14Wildeblood!

0:51:38 > 0:51:41INDISTINCT CHATTER

0:52:04 > 0:52:07I seen you come in.

0:52:10 > 0:52:13You look better in real life than you did in the papers.

0:52:13 > 0:52:15Oh...

0:52:16 > 0:52:17Thank you.

0:52:19 > 0:52:22It looked like you was dead, or something.

0:52:27 > 0:52:28How's your porridge going?

0:52:29 > 0:52:32It's, er, OK, it's going.

0:52:34 > 0:52:35Yours?

0:52:37 > 0:52:39All right.

0:52:40 > 0:52:41Two more years.

0:52:44 > 0:52:47That RAF lad stitched you up proper, didn't he?

0:52:50 > 0:52:53Not on, what he did to you.

0:52:56 > 0:52:57Form up!

0:53:02 > 0:53:03Be seeing you.

0:53:05 > 0:53:06Be seeing you.

0:53:48 > 0:53:518505, Wildeblood, sir.

0:53:51 > 0:53:53Wildeblood, yes.

0:53:53 > 0:53:55Have you given any thought to what you might do

0:53:55 > 0:53:58when you've finished your sentence?

0:53:58 > 0:54:00I plan to carry on as before, sir.

0:54:00 > 0:54:03Well, you'll certainly be returning to an institution like this

0:54:03 > 0:54:05if you do.

0:54:05 > 0:54:08I meant I shall go on writing.

0:54:08 > 0:54:11I suspect you'll find that rather harder than you imagine.

0:54:13 > 0:54:15Do you know someone called Iris?

0:54:16 > 0:54:18Why, yes, sir.

0:54:18 > 0:54:21Quite a common name in your...circles.

0:54:23 > 0:54:25Iris is a woman, sir.

0:54:26 > 0:54:30Are you willing to undergo medical treatment for your condition?

0:54:30 > 0:54:32Yes, sir.

0:54:32 > 0:54:35And you'll see the psychiatrist in due course.

0:54:35 > 0:54:36That will be all.

0:54:47 > 0:54:49TYPEWRITER KEYS CLACK

0:54:49 > 0:54:52All the things that wants to find me as a man have evaporated...

0:54:56 > 0:55:00..distilled down to a revolting caricature of homosexual man.

0:55:10 > 0:55:12INDISTINCT CHATTER

0:55:29 > 0:55:31Hello again.

0:55:31 > 0:55:33Hello.

0:55:33 > 0:55:35It's rotten how they did you.

0:55:35 > 0:55:38There but for the grace of God, you know.

0:55:40 > 0:55:44- I'm sorry?- It's people who have a little queer streak of their own

0:55:44 > 0:55:47that does the most damage, if you ask me.

0:55:48 > 0:55:51On the plus side, this place is packed with queers.

0:55:51 > 0:55:52Receiving, mostly.

0:55:52 > 0:55:55MEN LAUGH

0:55:55 > 0:55:57DOOR SLAMS SHUT

0:56:03 > 0:56:07I arrived there with a couple of other prisoners, I think.

0:56:09 > 0:56:11Er, it really did frighten me.

0:56:11 > 0:56:15You had the openly gay people who didn't seem to care

0:56:15 > 0:56:17if anyone knew they were gay.

0:56:17 > 0:56:21They flaunted round in groups, were quite outrageous, effeminate,

0:56:21 > 0:56:23girlie names all the time.

0:56:23 > 0:56:24On the other hand,

0:56:24 > 0:56:28there were the "undercover Marys", as we liked to refer to them.

0:56:28 > 0:56:30Those who had, for one reason or another,

0:56:30 > 0:56:33good reason not to be blatantly gay,

0:56:33 > 0:56:37and there was certainly a certain tension between them.

0:56:37 > 0:56:42The governor said, "We know why you're here, erm...

0:56:44 > 0:56:50"..and I want nothing of a homosexual nature for you

0:56:50 > 0:56:54"to try and take because if you do, you'll be here for ever."

0:56:54 > 0:56:59Being homosexual was such an aberration, terrible,

0:56:59 > 0:57:03worse than anything, worse than a murderer. Much, much worse.

0:57:03 > 0:57:06There were times when one thought,

0:57:06 > 0:57:11will they ever understand that there's nothing unnatural, erm,

0:57:11 > 0:57:13about us at all?

0:57:13 > 0:57:16We're perfectly natural human beings

0:57:16 > 0:57:19with a natural desire for love,

0:57:19 > 0:57:24and it increased one's sense

0:57:24 > 0:57:28of alienation from society as a whole.

0:57:28 > 0:57:35I mean it just destroyed my... my...my...my personality, really.

0:57:37 > 0:57:42I couldn't let my... I couldn't be who I was, so I had nothing.

0:57:48 > 0:57:50BANGING

0:57:58 > 0:58:00TYPEWRITER KEYS CLATTER

0:58:04 > 0:58:08I now know what it is like to be a criminal.

0:58:11 > 0:58:15To know that everything you do will be misunderstood

0:58:15 > 0:58:18or used as evidence against you.

0:58:18 > 0:58:20BANGING

0:58:25 > 0:58:30It makes me fearful of my future, and fear is a terrible emotion.

0:58:32 > 0:58:34It's like a black frost,

0:58:34 > 0:58:38which blights and stunts all the other qualities of a man.

0:59:07 > 0:59:10- Dan, that's really... - Pick it up, then.

0:59:17 > 0:59:19Got to keep your strength up.

0:59:34 > 0:59:36Pinched it out the garden.

0:59:38 > 0:59:41Make your cell feel a bit more like home.

1:01:00 > 1:01:02RETCHING AND COUGHING

1:01:10 > 1:01:12KNOCK ON DOOR

1:01:12 > 1:01:13Come in.

1:01:16 > 1:01:17Sit down.

1:01:21 > 1:01:23Wildeblood, isn't it?

1:01:23 > 1:01:24Yes, sir.

1:01:26 > 1:01:29Openly homosexual.

1:01:31 > 1:01:33Do you attend the orgies?

1:01:35 > 1:01:36Orgies?

1:01:36 > 1:01:41Yes. In Chelsea and other places?

1:01:42 > 1:01:47Male homosexuals gather together and engage in unnatural practices.

1:01:47 > 1:01:48Really?

1:01:48 > 1:01:50So I'm told.

1:01:51 > 1:01:54I haven't heard of this, sir.

1:01:55 > 1:02:00Does not attend the orgies.

1:02:04 > 1:02:07- You want to be cured?- Yes, sir.

1:02:07 > 1:02:09Well, there are a number of options.

1:02:09 > 1:02:14I understood that glandular injections or hormone treatment...

1:02:14 > 1:02:17We've tried oestrogen injections on a couple of cases here

1:02:17 > 1:02:20but with no great degree of success.

1:02:20 > 1:02:26One man underwent physical changes of a...a somewhat alarming nature.

1:02:27 > 1:02:30We use aversion therapy.

1:02:30 > 1:02:32How does that...

1:02:32 > 1:02:34Electrical aversion.

1:02:34 > 1:02:38Electrodes fixed to the wrists, calves, feet.

1:02:38 > 1:02:41You'd be told to fantasise,

1:02:41 > 1:02:46watch pictures of men in various states of undress, receive shocks.

1:02:48 > 1:02:52Does it leave...marks?

1:02:52 > 1:02:55They fade after a while.

1:02:55 > 1:02:58Or chemical aversion -

1:02:58 > 1:03:03apomorphine injections - produces nausea, you'll vomit

1:03:03 > 1:03:05then you lie in it,

1:03:05 > 1:03:09no cleaning up allowed. Essential part of the therapy.

1:03:11 > 1:03:13For how long?

1:03:14 > 1:03:17Two days, sometimes three, it depends.

1:03:24 > 1:03:26I shouldn't be here.

1:03:28 > 1:03:30This shouldn't be happening to me.

1:03:30 > 1:03:32You broke the law, Wildeblood.

1:03:32 > 1:03:35Then the law is wrong.

1:03:58 > 1:04:03The two treatments, the kindest one was that you would do...

1:04:03 > 1:04:07you would go to a counsellor, erm, psychologist.

1:04:11 > 1:04:16The, erm, worst one, the worst option, was that you would

1:04:16 > 1:04:19have aversion therapy,

1:04:19 > 1:04:24and aversion therapy, um,

1:04:24 > 1:04:27was probably

1:04:27 > 1:04:33the three worst days of my 67 years on this Earth as a nurse.

1:04:33 > 1:04:37They gave me an injection and I don't know to this day what it was -

1:04:37 > 1:04:41I have been told but I can't remember now - which made me

1:04:41 > 1:04:46feel very queasy and really started to react with inside me,

1:04:46 > 1:04:50and, er, pretty horrendous, and I said, "Excuse me,

1:04:50 > 1:04:53"I think I'm going to be sick."

1:04:53 > 1:04:56He said, "That's fine, just be sick," so I said,

1:04:56 > 1:05:00"Well, could I have a bucket or something or a bowl?"

1:05:00 > 1:05:02"No, just be sick."

1:05:02 > 1:05:05And then started feeling queasy down below and I said,

1:05:05 > 1:05:07"I've got to go to the toilet."

1:05:07 > 1:05:08"Don't worry about it, just do it."

1:05:08 > 1:05:13There was no talk about... about your...what you thought,

1:05:13 > 1:05:16what modern therapy would go into,

1:05:16 > 1:05:19no dialogue between the therapist and you

1:05:19 > 1:05:21with regard to your feelings and so on.

1:05:21 > 1:05:24There was no opportunity to express yourself.

1:05:24 > 1:05:28It was simply...it was simply medical treatments with tablets that

1:05:28 > 1:05:29tried to damp you down.

1:05:29 > 1:05:35And for 72 hours, I... Well, I had nothing left, there was

1:05:35 > 1:05:41no sick coming up, there was no poo coming out, there was nothing.

1:05:41 > 1:05:45There was no water coming out of my penis, there was nothing.

1:05:45 > 1:05:50I was a mental wreck, and this nurse was embarrassed,

1:05:50 > 1:05:56and I can see his face now, just didn't know what to say to me

1:05:56 > 1:05:59and I certainly didn't know what to say to him.

1:05:59 > 1:06:00I can only say to you

1:06:01 > 1:06:04and all those who have had this dreadful treatment,

1:06:04 > 1:06:10as a nurse, I'm sorry that I was complicit in it.

1:06:11 > 1:06:15I can't do any more, I can't undo what's been done.

1:06:17 > 1:06:19I can only say I'm sorry.

1:06:23 > 1:06:26SHRIEKS AND EXCITED CHATTER

1:06:26 > 1:06:30I thought he was going to my bottom off, or something!

1:06:30 > 1:06:32CHATTER AND LAUGHTER CONTINUES

1:06:36 > 1:06:38Absolutely beastly thing!

1:06:38 > 1:06:40I was scarred for life.

1:06:40 > 1:06:43Anyway, I forgot my soap, and I turned round and bent down

1:06:43 > 1:06:47and said, "I can't. She'll go for me right in the derriere!"

1:07:06 > 1:07:08You landed on your feet there, girl.

1:07:08 > 1:07:13He's a lovely bit of stuff. Get right in there.

1:07:18 > 1:07:19Sorry.

1:07:19 > 1:07:22Touched a nerve?

1:07:22 > 1:07:24Your business, I'm sure.

1:07:27 > 1:07:28Seen this?

1:07:35 > 1:07:38- Wolfenden.- A committee.

1:07:38 > 1:07:41See if they might want to change the law against queers.

1:07:41 > 1:07:44They want people to come forward, have their say.

1:07:44 > 1:07:48There's a few things I could tell them.

1:07:48 > 1:07:51We should all do it, don't you think? Band together.

1:07:51 > 1:07:54No!

1:07:54 > 1:07:56No, we're not the same, you and I!

1:08:37 > 1:08:39I am a homosexual.

1:08:42 > 1:08:47For many years I kept this a secret from my family and friends

1:08:47 > 1:08:50and tried privately to resolve my struggle in a way

1:08:50 > 1:08:53as consistent as possible with moral law.

1:08:56 > 1:08:59I do not believe I ever did any harm to anyone.

1:09:03 > 1:09:07If any harm has been done, the fault lies not with me

1:09:07 > 1:09:11but with those who dragged into the merciless light of publicity

1:09:11 > 1:09:15things which would have been better left in darkness.

1:09:18 > 1:09:21If there is bitterness in my words,

1:09:21 > 1:09:27I hope it will be the bitterness of medicine, not of poison.

1:09:35 > 1:09:39Just before he was imprisoned, he had just bought a house

1:09:39 > 1:09:41not far away from our flat.

1:09:44 > 1:09:47When he came out of prison, his neighbours had put up

1:09:47 > 1:09:50a big notice - "welcome home" -

1:09:50 > 1:09:53and I think that that more than anything

1:09:53 > 1:09:56erm, gave Peter a tremendous encouragement -

1:09:56 > 1:10:02these ordinary local people were accepting him for what he was.

1:10:09 > 1:10:10I must have my say.

1:10:12 > 1:10:15Wolfenden needs to hear the truth.

1:10:35 > 1:10:38I'm trying to get through to Malcolm Starr.

1:10:38 > 1:10:39The Home Office.

1:10:42 > 1:10:43Yes, I can wait.

1:10:55 > 1:10:58I realised, with the setting up of Wolfenden,

1:10:58 > 1:11:01and even before, that there was a change in the air.

1:11:05 > 1:11:11It was the first indication that the law against homosexuality

1:11:11 > 1:11:17might at least be reconsidered, the first glimmer of hope,

1:11:17 > 1:11:20and so we all knew about it, straights and gays.

1:11:32 > 1:11:36May I say, Mr Wildeblood, how very grateful we are to you

1:11:36 > 1:11:41- for finding time to talk to us this afternoon.- Not at all.

1:11:41 > 1:11:46But I was particularly aware of it because it so happened

1:11:46 > 1:11:50I was having an affair at the time with Jeremy Wolfenden, who was

1:11:50 > 1:11:54the son of Sir John Wolfenden, who was head of the committee.

1:11:59 > 1:12:04You say there are three distinct types of homosexual.

1:12:04 > 1:12:09Yes, the men who regard themselves as women

1:12:09 > 1:12:13through glandular or psychological maladjustment.

1:12:13 > 1:12:14Group A?

1:12:14 > 1:12:19Yes. Group B, pederasts.

1:12:21 > 1:12:24I cannot speak on their behalf.

1:12:24 > 1:12:28I regard them the same way a normal man might regard those

1:12:28 > 1:12:30pederasts who pray on young girls.

1:12:30 > 1:12:35And Group C? Men...like yourself.

1:12:35 > 1:12:38Homosexuals in the strictest sense.

1:12:39 > 1:12:43Adult men who are attracted to other adult men.

1:12:45 > 1:12:51Men who desire to lead their lives with discretion and decency,

1:12:51 > 1:12:54neither corrupting others

1:12:54 > 1:12:56nor publically flaunting their condition.

1:12:59 > 1:13:02We are by far the largest group of homosexuals.

1:13:02 > 1:13:04The discreet homosexual?

1:13:04 > 1:13:06Yes, my lord.

1:13:06 > 1:13:10We seek to find another of our own kind and...

1:13:12 > 1:13:18..if possible, form a permanent attachment in private.

1:13:19 > 1:13:23But the law, as it stands, makes this kind of arrangement

1:13:23 > 1:13:25fraught with risk.

1:13:25 > 1:13:30A promiscuous and temporary liaison is far less likely to provide

1:13:30 > 1:13:33corroborative evidence, letters, that kind of thing, in court

1:13:33 > 1:13:39than an association in which genuine trust and fidelity play a part.

1:13:41 > 1:13:42I see.

1:13:43 > 1:13:45Yes.

1:13:45 > 1:13:49I was going to ask a little more about Group A,

1:13:49 > 1:13:52the glandular category.

1:13:52 > 1:13:54They're known as "pansies".

1:13:59 > 1:14:02People of that kind are born like that.

1:14:04 > 1:14:08To that extent, I suppose they're not responsible.

1:14:11 > 1:14:16What they are responsible for is their nuisance value.

1:14:16 > 1:14:18They cause a lot of bad public feeling

1:14:18 > 1:14:22towards the other, more discreet homosexuals.

1:14:28 > 1:14:33When I ask for tolerance, it is for men like us...

1:14:35 > 1:14:38..not the corrupters of youth,

1:14:38 > 1:14:42not the effeminate creatures making an exhibition of themselves.

1:14:46 > 1:14:52I speak for the men who, despite their tragic disability,

1:14:52 > 1:14:55try to lead their lives as decent citizens.

1:14:57 > 1:14:59There are many thousands of us.

1:15:00 > 1:15:02How many, we do not know.

1:15:04 > 1:15:07I believe that we would be better

1:15:07 > 1:15:10and more useful members of society if we were allowed to

1:15:10 > 1:15:15live in peace, instead of being condemned to live outside the law.

1:15:22 > 1:15:25What did you do that for? Stop it...

1:15:25 > 1:15:27HE GROANS

1:15:27 > 1:15:29You're a fucking homo!

1:15:36 > 1:15:38Thank you, Mr Wildeblood.

1:15:41 > 1:15:43You've been most helpful.

1:15:43 > 1:15:45Thank you, sir.

1:16:14 > 1:16:16MAN WHISTLES

1:16:26 > 1:16:30You know, I was very pleased with the recommendations made

1:16:30 > 1:16:32and I thought, well, the law will change, but it wasn't changed

1:16:32 > 1:16:36for another, what, nine years or ten years,

1:16:36 > 1:16:39and when it did change, you know,

1:16:39 > 1:16:41as I said earlier, I thought,

1:16:41 > 1:16:45"Oh, yeah, nice condescending thing to do."

1:16:45 > 1:16:47I was quite irritated by it.

1:16:47 > 1:16:48INTERVIEWER: Why was that?

1:16:48 > 1:16:52Yeah, because I thought, you know, all this consenting adults

1:16:52 > 1:16:56in private, and if you had a threesome, say, you know,

1:16:56 > 1:16:59you could be brought up... sent to prison -

1:16:59 > 1:17:02not that people...not that people wanted threesomes, but you know

1:17:02 > 1:17:06what I mean, and it had to be in private, in a house, and if there

1:17:06 > 1:17:10were other people in the house, you know, you were breaking the law.

1:17:10 > 1:17:14The change in the law that took place in 1967 I'm quite sure

1:17:14 > 1:17:18had an enormous effect on a huge number of gay people but, erm,

1:17:18 > 1:17:21the problem was, it was a minor change.

1:17:21 > 1:17:23They weren't going to turn around to their parents and say,

1:17:23 > 1:17:27"Oh, I'm gay and it's legal now so you can't do anything about it."

1:17:27 > 1:17:30They were still going to be hiding, hiding themselves. It would take a

1:17:30 > 1:17:34social change to bring real freedom to these people, not a legal change.

1:17:34 > 1:17:38That is not to minimise the benefit the legal change made,

1:17:38 > 1:17:41if nothing else, to stop people going to prison for something

1:17:41 > 1:17:44that was nobody's business but their own.

1:17:44 > 1:17:46My mother was saying,

1:17:46 > 1:17:49"I know what you're going to do.

1:17:49 > 1:17:51"Later on, when I go,

1:17:51 > 1:17:54"you'll marry a non-Jewish girl."

1:17:54 > 1:17:57I said, "Mum, I won't marry a girl at all."

1:18:02 > 1:18:05It must have been a shock to her...

1:18:07 > 1:18:09..but she just called me a dirty dog.

1:18:15 > 1:18:18I did hold back particularly

1:18:18 > 1:18:23because I knew my family would disown me pretty well,

1:18:23 > 1:18:28and here I am now, and, er, fortunately...

1:18:28 > 1:18:33I mean, it was only literally

1:18:33 > 1:18:38since September of last year,

1:18:38 > 1:18:43that I was able to come out to my family,

1:18:43 > 1:18:46well, to my sister, younger sister.

1:18:46 > 1:18:51Even now, I sometimes pinch myself and think, "Is it true?

1:18:51 > 1:18:52"Has it happened?"

1:18:52 > 1:18:56Erm, and I'm astonished.

1:18:56 > 1:19:02I would never have thought that the law would change,

1:19:02 > 1:19:05that public opinion would change.

1:19:07 > 1:19:09- Hello, darling.- Hello, darling.

1:19:09 > 1:19:11How are you?

1:19:11 > 1:19:12Not bad.

1:19:12 > 1:19:14- Oh, good.- And yourself?

1:19:14 > 1:19:16- All right, thank you.- Good.

1:19:16 > 1:19:19- You had a good time? - Very good time.- Oh, good.

1:19:19 > 1:19:24Well, we were the first couple in Westminster

1:19:24 > 1:19:31as well as in the country to actually form the civil partnership,

1:19:31 > 1:19:35which was very exciting, actually.

1:19:41 > 1:19:47Lee died two years ago and we'd been together 66 years, and I found

1:19:47 > 1:19:50that letter that I wrote to him amongst his effects,

1:19:50 > 1:19:54and the address, his name, my name had been cut out,

1:19:54 > 1:19:57so I folded the letter up

1:19:57 > 1:20:01and placed it in his coffin so that it went with him wherever he went.

1:20:01 > 1:20:03Yeah.

1:20:11 > 1:20:12Queer.

1:20:12 > 1:20:14Homosexual.

1:20:14 > 1:20:16Poofter.

1:20:16 > 1:20:18# Say it out loud it'll be OK

1:20:18 > 1:20:19# I will be your light

1:20:19 > 1:20:21# I will be your light

1:20:21 > 1:20:23# I will be your light

1:20:23 > 1:20:25# I will be your light

1:20:25 > 1:20:28# If there's something inside that you wanna say... #

1:20:28 > 1:20:29Shirt-lifter.

1:20:29 > 1:20:30LAUGHTER

1:20:30 > 1:20:32Flamer.

1:20:33 > 1:20:36Never heard that one. Slamer?

1:20:36 > 1:20:37Flamer, as in a flame.

1:20:37 > 1:20:39- Flame. Flamer.- Flamer.

1:20:39 > 1:20:41Not one I've ever heard of.

1:20:42 > 1:20:44I hadn't heard "brown hat".

1:20:46 > 1:20:48Nancy boy.

1:20:48 > 1:20:49Queen.

1:20:49 > 1:20:51Friend of Dorothy.

1:20:59 > 1:21:01- Faggot.- Bender.

1:21:01 > 1:21:03Batty boy.

1:21:11 > 1:21:13Fairy.

1:21:15 > 1:21:17You're very good at that?

1:21:18 > 1:21:20I've heard it once or twice!

1:21:20 > 1:21:22# ..Say it out loud, it'll be OK

1:21:22 > 1:21:23# I will be your light

1:21:23 > 1:21:25# I will be your light

1:21:25 > 1:21:26# I will be your light

1:21:26 > 1:21:28# I will be your light

1:21:28 > 1:21:31# If there's something inside that you wanna say

1:21:31 > 1:21:34# Say it out loud, it'll be OK

1:21:34 > 1:21:36# I will be your light

1:21:36 > 1:21:37# I will be your light

1:21:37 > 1:21:39# I will be your light

1:21:39 > 1:21:41# I will be your light. #