Joe Orton Laid Bare

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0:00:02 > 0:00:08This programme contains some strong language and adult humour

0:00:08 > 0:00:10Only three more drama club performances to go now.

0:00:10 > 0:00:12I feel a mixture of feelings after ten days

0:00:12 > 0:00:15of speaking three lines a night and trying to look intelligent,

0:00:15 > 0:00:18but I shall be very, very sad when it's over.

0:00:21 > 0:00:24I've heard that Crouch, who plays Clarence in the show, is at RADA.

0:00:24 > 0:00:27I'm wondering if I saved at least five shilling a week,

0:00:27 > 0:00:29if I could go in the remote future.

0:00:29 > 0:00:30Of course, I have no idea how much the fees are,

0:00:30 > 0:00:34but if you want to make the stage your career, you must go to RADA.

0:00:34 > 0:00:36Oh!

0:00:54 > 0:00:55APPLAUSE

0:01:06 > 0:01:08APPLAUSE

0:01:24 > 0:01:25Oh!

0:01:51 > 0:01:53CELL DOOR SLAMS SHUT

0:02:00 > 0:02:03My father, who was a gardener,

0:02:03 > 0:02:06was reading the Daily Mirror

0:02:06 > 0:02:12and he came upon this headline that said, "Gorilla amongst the Roses".

0:02:12 > 0:02:17Of course, him being a gardener, automatically started to read it

0:02:17 > 0:02:22and released that his son, John Kingsley Orton,

0:02:22 > 0:02:27had been arrested for the defacement of library books.

0:02:27 > 0:02:331959, I started work in Essex Road Library in Islington.

0:02:33 > 0:02:38There were these two guys coming into the library all the time,

0:02:38 > 0:02:41and that was Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell.

0:02:41 > 0:02:46Orton was friendly. Halliwell would just smile at you ironically.

0:02:46 > 0:02:50This is very much Britain in the early '60s.

0:02:50 > 0:02:54Not a lot of people were very pleasant to a young black boy.

0:02:54 > 0:03:00I enjoyed talking to him, partly for that reason,

0:03:00 > 0:03:03but there was actually nothing about him

0:03:03 > 0:03:07which would have made you think, "Ah-ha!

0:03:07 > 0:03:12"Here's someone who was going to deface library books."

0:03:12 > 0:03:14UPBEAT INSTRUMENTAL

0:03:16 > 0:03:21I realise it's unforgivable doing this. I'm just...unrepentant.

0:03:22 > 0:03:25The libraries have a tremendous amount of space for rubbish

0:03:25 > 0:03:28written by the likes of Lady Dartmouth and her ilk,

0:03:28 > 0:03:30but not for good books, apparently.

0:03:31 > 0:03:33It's not a matter of personal taste.

0:03:33 > 0:03:36You can say when something is rubbish and something isn't.

0:03:43 > 0:03:47Oh, John Betjeman, yes! This one, I remember.

0:03:47 > 0:03:49Ah, that's lovely!

0:03:49 > 0:03:51HE LAUGHS

0:03:51 > 0:03:57Then they watched while people browsed the books

0:03:57 > 0:04:03to see if their satire had the effect that they wanted,

0:04:03 > 0:04:10which was to shock and, in some way, create panic, almost.

0:04:10 > 0:04:14It came to a head for me one morning when a woman came in.

0:04:14 > 0:04:16She slammed a book down and she said,

0:04:16 > 0:04:21"How dare you allow my 13-year-old daughter to take this book?!"

0:04:21 > 0:04:25Collected Plays of Emlyn Williams.

0:04:25 > 0:04:27"Up the front, up the back!"

0:04:27 > 0:04:29HE LAUGHS

0:04:29 > 0:04:31"Fucked by Monty!"

0:04:31 > 0:04:33HE LAUGHS

0:04:35 > 0:04:37We're public benefactors, in a way.

0:04:37 > 0:04:39You wouldn't even begin to understand

0:04:39 > 0:04:41the real reason we do these things.

0:04:49 > 0:04:51It was like an early version of Banksy.

0:04:51 > 0:04:56I think, partly, it was the trickster in them.

0:04:56 > 0:05:01They were really not successful writing together.

0:05:01 > 0:05:05They had all their early books, they had sent them all to...

0:05:05 > 0:05:08to Faber and Faber, and they sent them all back,

0:05:08 > 0:05:10saying that, "They're too odd for us.

0:05:10 > 0:05:12"They're not what we would publish."

0:05:12 > 0:05:14I think that irked them.

0:05:14 > 0:05:17But sort of defacing the library book covers,

0:05:17 > 0:05:21you can imagine they were having a lot of fun doing that.

0:05:21 > 0:05:28People began to mention their names as suspects.

0:05:28 > 0:05:30The suggestion was made

0:05:30 > 0:05:36that they were two men living together in a room,

0:05:36 > 0:05:39so they must be homosexuals.

0:05:39 > 0:05:45Orton and Halliwell lived in a room that was probably 16x12.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47Very, very small.

0:05:47 > 0:05:50Two beds, a desk, these walls that were...

0:05:50 > 0:05:53That looked like they'd been tattooed, almost,

0:05:53 > 0:05:55with classical images.

0:05:55 > 0:05:59So it was a very, very claustrophobic, small space.

0:06:00 > 0:06:02When they went to court,

0:06:02 > 0:06:07OK, they deserved a fine or some kind of slap on the wrist,

0:06:07 > 0:06:14but...sending them to prison seemed well over the top.

0:06:14 > 0:06:17My mother was sort of saying,

0:06:17 > 0:06:20"I never liked that bloke he lived with. I never liked him.

0:06:20 > 0:06:23"What on earth do you want to live with a bald-headed man for?"

0:06:24 > 0:06:27He did send a letter home

0:06:27 > 0:06:32saying that he didn't want anyone to send him any letters.

0:06:32 > 0:06:35He didn't want any contact with the family at all.

0:06:35 > 0:06:37I just thought, "What will happen to him?"

0:06:37 > 0:06:42And it was the first time in their adult life

0:06:42 > 0:06:44that they'd been separated.

0:06:44 > 0:06:46I think prison may have been the making of him.

0:06:46 > 0:06:51That's to say that it was in prison that he started to write

0:06:51 > 0:06:55and sort of emancipated himself from the fact that he was writing...

0:06:55 > 0:06:57When he was living with Kenneth, he was writing stuff

0:06:57 > 0:07:02and Kenneth would then comment on it and, you know, correct it.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04And in the process of correcting it,

0:07:04 > 0:07:07would very likely rob it of its originality.

0:07:09 > 0:07:10I had a wonderful time in prison.

0:07:10 > 0:07:13I wouldn't have missed it for the world.

0:07:13 > 0:07:17I didn't suffer the way Oscar Wilde suffered in prison,

0:07:17 > 0:07:20but then Wilde was flabby and self-indulgent.

0:07:20 > 0:07:24There's this complete myth about writers being sensitive plants. They're not.

0:07:24 > 0:07:28There's absolutely no reason a writer shouldn't be as tough as a bricklayer.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33He found it an exhilarating experience!

0:07:33 > 0:07:38But, I mean, I think that's just a bit of bravado.

0:07:38 > 0:07:43It made him see society

0:07:43 > 0:07:46in a totally different way.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49The experience must have influenced my writing,

0:07:49 > 0:07:52though I couldn't say how very precisely.

0:07:53 > 0:07:56It gave me time to turn over in my mind everything I'd been doing.

0:07:56 > 0:07:58Time to think.

0:07:58 > 0:08:01Before, I'd been vaguely aware of something rotten somewhere.

0:08:01 > 0:08:03Prison crystallised this.

0:08:03 > 0:08:06The old whore society really lifted up her skirt

0:08:06 > 0:08:09and the stench was pretty foul.

0:08:09 > 0:08:14Something had happened in there. He changed.

0:08:14 > 0:08:16I think that he could separate,

0:08:16 > 0:08:24detach himself from worrying about what people thought of him.

0:08:24 > 0:08:28It was like, "You've sent me to prison for being a homosexual,

0:08:28 > 0:08:29"although you never said that.

0:08:29 > 0:08:32"You said it was for defacing library-book covers,

0:08:32 > 0:08:34"but that was just a mask."

0:08:34 > 0:08:37You know, so, "Up yours".

0:08:37 > 0:08:41As soon as he felt he had a voice,

0:08:41 > 0:08:43felt confident that he had a voice,

0:08:43 > 0:08:45I mean, it was like uncorking a geyser.

0:08:50 > 0:08:57In 1963, I was working in the BBC Radio drama department.

0:08:57 > 0:09:02We had about 10,000 scripts a year. It was a hell of a lot.

0:09:02 > 0:09:10And, er...this play came across the desk to be sent back.

0:09:10 > 0:09:13And it had been seen by a lot of, it seemed to me,

0:09:13 > 0:09:17rather elderly ladies, and they absolutely hated the play.

0:09:17 > 0:09:19And I looked at it and read the first page,

0:09:19 > 0:09:23and it was very unusual, and I thought,

0:09:23 > 0:09:24"This is absolutely brilliant".

0:09:24 > 0:09:27BUZZING

0:09:29 > 0:09:31Have you got an appointment today?

0:09:31 > 0:09:34Yes. I'm to be at King's Cross station at 11:00.

0:09:34 > 0:09:36I'm meeting a man in the toilet.

0:09:36 > 0:09:40You always go to such interesting places. Are you taking the van?

0:09:40 > 0:09:42Er...no, it's still under repair.

0:09:42 > 0:09:44Where did you go yesterday?

0:09:44 > 0:09:48I went to Mikey Pierce's. I had a message to deliver.

0:09:48 > 0:09:50Had a chat with a man who travels

0:09:50 > 0:09:53in electrically-operated massage machines.

0:09:53 > 0:09:55Bought me a ham roll.

0:09:56 > 0:09:58Turns out he's on the run.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01He didn't say as much in so many words, but I gathered.

0:10:03 > 0:10:05The papers were on form this morning.

0:10:05 > 0:10:08Are they? I'm glad people are still reading them.

0:10:08 > 0:10:11I seen that a man had appeared in court

0:10:11 > 0:10:13charged with locking his wife in a wardrobe.

0:10:13 > 0:10:15She tells of her night of terror.

0:10:15 > 0:10:19I mean, what a way to celebrate your wedding anniversary.

0:10:19 > 0:10:23I'd do the same. I'd lock you up if you gave me cause for displeasure.

0:10:23 > 0:10:25And in the local paper, I saw that there'd been an accident

0:10:25 > 0:10:27involving a tattooed man.

0:10:27 > 0:10:31He had a heart, a clenched fist and a rose, all on one arm,

0:10:31 > 0:10:35and the name Ronny on his body in two different places.

0:10:35 > 0:10:37Was that his name?

0:10:37 > 0:10:39No, his name was Frank.

0:10:39 > 0:10:41A van ran him down.

0:10:42 > 0:10:45He came to see me at Broadcasting House and I said to him,

0:10:45 > 0:10:47"Oh, what you have been doing the last few years?"

0:10:47 > 0:10:50And he said "Well, actually, I've been in prison".

0:10:50 > 0:10:54"Ooh", I said, sort of withdrawing a little bit.

0:10:54 > 0:10:57So anyhow, we then discussed the play and I said,

0:10:57 > 0:10:59"Well, I think we'll take it. We'll buy it".

0:10:59 > 0:11:03And in the play, I'd cast Kenneth Cranham,

0:11:03 > 0:11:06who was absolutely unknown. He was a schoolboy.

0:11:07 > 0:11:12I think it's a rather poetic play and funny occasionally.

0:11:12 > 0:11:15I was very impressed by it.

0:11:15 > 0:11:19In fact, in some ways, it's still my favourite play of his -

0:11:19 > 0:11:23about a mysterious outsider

0:11:23 > 0:11:25bringing things to this house

0:11:25 > 0:11:29and it turns out that there's all sorts of connections.

0:11:29 > 0:11:30I've come about the room.

0:11:30 > 0:11:34You must've come to the wrong door. Sorry if you've been troubled.

0:11:34 > 0:11:36Can I come in? I've walked all the way here.

0:11:36 > 0:11:38Just for a minute. I'm so busy. I'm run off my feet today.

0:11:38 > 0:11:40How about a cup of tea?

0:11:40 > 0:11:42You usually make one about now.

0:11:44 > 0:11:45How do you know?

0:11:45 > 0:11:48Oh, I pick up all sorts of useful information in my job.

0:11:48 > 0:11:49And what's that?

0:11:49 > 0:11:52I'm a gent's hairdresser - qualified.

0:11:52 > 0:11:55I've clipped some notable heads in my time.

0:11:55 > 0:11:57My brother was in the business, too,

0:11:57 > 0:11:58until he was involved in an accident.

0:11:58 > 0:12:02- What happened? - A van knocked him down.

0:12:02 > 0:12:04His funeral was attended by some interesting people.

0:12:04 > 0:12:06He was a sportsman before his decease.

0:12:06 > 0:12:10He wore white shorts better than any man I've ever come in contact with.

0:12:10 > 0:12:13As a matter of fact, strictly off the record,

0:12:13 > 0:12:16I'm wearing a pair of his white shorts at this moment.

0:12:17 > 0:12:19- Oh.- I wasn't mentioned in the press.

0:12:19 > 0:12:23They didn't realise the important part I'd played in Frank's life.

0:12:23 > 0:12:26My brother's fiancee had her photo taken - balling her head off.

0:12:27 > 0:12:29Perhaps the accident unhinged her mind.

0:12:29 > 0:12:32It wasn't an accident. He was murdered.

0:12:34 > 0:12:35You don't know that.

0:12:35 > 0:12:37Don't contradict me!

0:12:37 > 0:12:40This is a private house, I'm not having perfect strangers talk to me like that!

0:12:40 > 0:12:42Clear off! My husband will be back soon!

0:12:42 > 0:12:45- He's not your husband! - How dare you!

0:12:45 > 0:12:47You're not married! You want to watch yourself.

0:12:47 > 0:12:48I have a good mind to call a policeman!

0:12:48 > 0:12:51- You don't have a telephone. - I can knock on the floor!

0:12:51 > 0:12:53- THUD! - There's nobody downstairs!

0:12:53 > 0:12:54I'll report you! You keep away!

0:12:56 > 0:12:58If I were to assault you...

0:12:59 > 0:13:01..would he avenge you?

0:13:04 > 0:13:06I mean, I used to listen to the afternoon story

0:13:06 > 0:13:08and I'd never heard anything like it.

0:13:08 > 0:13:10They were terrific lines

0:13:10 > 0:13:13and within a sort of a context of an underworld

0:13:13 > 0:13:17that British drama at that time

0:13:17 > 0:13:20had only just begun to explore with Pinter.

0:13:20 > 0:13:25It's about the tension of an intruder and...

0:13:27 > 0:13:29..becomes increasingly menacing.

0:13:29 > 0:13:31You don't know why he's there, really,

0:13:31 > 0:13:34and he provokes this couple.

0:13:34 > 0:13:38If you're desperate for a room, I could put you up on the bed-settee.

0:13:38 > 0:13:40It's quite comfortable.

0:13:40 > 0:13:42- Is it new? - I bought it a long time ago.

0:13:42 > 0:13:46Couldn't afford such luxury today. Financially, I'm in a bad way.

0:13:46 > 0:13:48Well, my money will help you out.

0:13:48 > 0:13:52It's the Assistance Board. I don't believe in charity unless I need it.

0:13:52 > 0:13:54My brother and me had the same trouble.

0:13:54 > 0:13:58We lived in Shepherd's Bush. We had a little room

0:13:58 > 0:14:02and our life was made quite comfortable by the Assistance Board for almost a year.

0:14:02 > 0:14:04We had a lot of friends,

0:14:04 > 0:14:06all creeds and colours,

0:14:06 > 0:14:09but no circumstances at all. We were happy, though.

0:14:09 > 0:14:12We were young. I was 17, he was 23.

0:14:12 > 0:14:15You can't do better for yourself than that, can you?

0:14:15 > 0:14:17We were bosom friends.

0:14:19 > 0:14:21I've never told anybody that before.

0:14:21 > 0:14:23I hope I haven't shocked you.

0:14:24 > 0:14:26As close as that?

0:14:26 > 0:14:27We had separate beds.

0:14:27 > 0:14:29He was a stickler for convention.

0:14:29 > 0:14:32But that's as far as it went.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34We spent every night in each other's company.

0:14:36 > 0:14:38It was the reason we never got any work done.

0:14:40 > 0:14:44There's no word in the Irish language for what you were doing.

0:14:44 > 0:14:46In Lapland, they have no word for snow.

0:14:48 > 0:14:50I'd rather not hear. I'm not a priest, you know.

0:14:50 > 0:14:52I wasn't with him when he died.

0:14:54 > 0:14:57I'm going around the twist with heartbreak.

0:14:58 > 0:15:01I thought of topping myself as a gesture,

0:15:01 > 0:15:03but suicide is difficult when you've got a pious mum.

0:15:03 > 0:15:05Kill yourself?

0:15:05 > 0:15:06I don't want to live, see.

0:15:08 > 0:15:10That's a crude way of putting it.

0:15:10 > 0:15:12- You won't do it, though?- Nah.

0:15:12 > 0:15:14I've made a will, of course,

0:15:14 > 0:15:16in case anything should happen in the future.

0:15:16 > 0:15:18- What might happen? - I might get killed.

0:15:18 > 0:15:20- How?- I don't know.

0:15:24 > 0:15:26And what the young man arranges

0:15:26 > 0:15:33is for the Irishman, the elderly Irishman, to shoot him.

0:15:33 > 0:15:36Well, there was a longing to, I think,

0:15:36 > 0:15:40cross over and be in the next life with this...

0:15:42 > 0:15:44..brother who'd been so important to him,

0:15:44 > 0:15:47and so he contrives his own death.

0:15:47 > 0:15:54The BBC, they didn't want it to be clear that they were homosexuals,

0:15:54 > 0:15:58so Joe made them brothers,

0:15:58 > 0:16:03which made it even worse because it made it incest, as well,

0:16:03 > 0:16:07so he got sort of a double-barrel shot at it.

0:16:09 > 0:16:11I see the plot of a play as a piece of meat

0:16:11 > 0:16:14that buries the hook of what the author has to say.

0:16:14 > 0:16:17If I just offered the bare hook of what I want to say,

0:16:17 > 0:16:19well, who'd put that in their mouths?

0:16:19 > 0:16:22The recording was a very happy event

0:16:22 > 0:16:24and Joe was there all the time.

0:16:24 > 0:16:27He said, "Look, whilst I'm here,

0:16:27 > 0:16:30"I've got another play I've written",

0:16:30 > 0:16:33which was called Entertaining Mr Sloane.

0:16:33 > 0:16:35And I laughed a lot and he said, "Do you like it?"

0:16:35 > 0:16:40And I said, "Like it?" I said, "I think you need an agent."

0:16:40 > 0:16:45I said, "I suggest you get in touch with a lady called Margaret Ramsey.

0:16:45 > 0:16:47"Peggy Ramsey, we call her."

0:16:47 > 0:16:50And I said to him, "She can be a bit of a cow".

0:16:50 > 0:16:53Getting a call from Peggy was like someone saying,

0:16:53 > 0:16:56"The police, for you".

0:16:56 > 0:17:01About three days later, I would say, Peggy Ramsey phoned me

0:17:01 > 0:17:04and she had this piercing voice, very theatrical!

0:17:04 > 0:17:10She said, "John, darling, what's all this you've been calling me a cow all over London?"

0:17:10 > 0:17:13I said, "I haven't, Peggy. No! No, I haven't. I promise, I haven't."

0:17:13 > 0:17:16She said, "Yes, you have. This young man came in my office

0:17:16 > 0:17:19"and you said to him that I was a cow.

0:17:19 > 0:17:21"My darling, who IS this young man?"

0:17:21 > 0:17:24Orton was seductive, he was charming, he was very funny.

0:17:24 > 0:17:28I mean, she really was taken with him.

0:17:28 > 0:17:30She didn't hang about, if she liked your stuff.

0:17:30 > 0:17:36She would be ear-bashing some poor artistic director until he said yes.

0:17:36 > 0:17:39She sent it to me and said, "Would you like this play?"

0:17:39 > 0:17:44And I said, "I'll do it and get it on within six weeks", which we did.

0:17:44 > 0:17:45I fell in love with it immediately.

0:17:45 > 0:17:50Well, the script, to me, was almost as elegant as Jane Austen,

0:17:50 > 0:17:54but saying the most, for then, rather horrifying things.

0:17:54 > 0:17:57I hadn't been told much about Joe before I met him.

0:17:57 > 0:18:00I found him a very quiet presence at first

0:18:00 > 0:18:03and I realised after a while that he was like that

0:18:03 > 0:18:04with everyone when he first met them.

0:18:04 > 0:18:12That he had 438 brilliant feelers, out measuring, tasting

0:18:12 > 0:18:16and getting a complete understanding of the person he was speaking to.

0:18:16 > 0:18:19When Joe turned up, Halliwell would come with him

0:18:19 > 0:18:24and seemed to regard that as a natural position.

0:18:24 > 0:18:27He was rather like the elephant in the room.

0:18:27 > 0:18:28I mean, it's easy with hindsight,

0:18:28 > 0:18:33but he did look like Himmler or something. He looked...

0:18:33 > 0:18:36When Ken was around, people became quite jumpy.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39There was sort of jealously and anger

0:18:39 > 0:18:43and suspicion emanating from him.

0:18:43 > 0:18:48He was, to put it mildly...loathsome.

0:18:48 > 0:18:51He was the opposite of Joe.

0:18:51 > 0:18:54Halliwell was difficult because he would make claims

0:18:54 > 0:19:00about co-authorship of Sloane, which was clearly not true.

0:19:00 > 0:19:03He felt very possessive

0:19:03 > 0:19:08and, eventually, he had this kind of attitude and this bad feeling

0:19:08 > 0:19:13that was influencing the company. He was asked to leave rehearsals.

0:19:13 > 0:19:16I mean, how Joe dealt with that when he got home of an evening, I don't know.

0:19:16 > 0:19:22Joe's play is all that mattered to everybody who was there.

0:19:22 > 0:19:27A rather dreadful lady of a certain age

0:19:27 > 0:19:31leads into the drawing room of her home

0:19:31 > 0:19:35a very young boy, whom she clearly fancies enormously,

0:19:35 > 0:19:39introduces him to her father, who lives with her, she calls him Dada,

0:19:39 > 0:19:45who is practically blind, and a peculiar dislike is expressed.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48The old man stabs him with a toasting fork.

0:19:48 > 0:19:50Argh! Ah!

0:19:53 > 0:19:54Did Dada attack you?

0:19:54 > 0:19:58He's got an artery. I must be losing pints! Oh, Christ!

0:19:58 > 0:20:00Oh, is it hurting you?

0:20:00 > 0:20:03What a lovely pair of shoes you've got!

0:20:03 > 0:20:05- I think I'm going to spew.- Oh!

0:20:08 > 0:20:10Oh!

0:20:13 > 0:20:16- Nah, I'll be all right.- Oh.

0:20:16 > 0:20:21I wonder, Mr Sloane, if you'd take your trousers off?

0:20:21 > 0:20:22SHE GIGGLES

0:20:22 > 0:20:25I hope you don't think there's anything behind the request.

0:20:25 > 0:20:29I expect you guessed as much before I asked.

0:20:29 > 0:20:33If you lift up, I'll pull them off.

0:20:36 > 0:20:38SHE BREATHES HARD

0:20:38 > 0:20:40Where is it, then?

0:20:43 > 0:20:46- Here.- He attacked you from behind?!

0:20:47 > 0:20:52Oh, well, if you ask me, it's only a deep scratch.

0:20:54 > 0:20:57I don't think we'll require outside assistance.

0:20:59 > 0:21:00Oh, don't be embarrassed, Mr Sloane.

0:21:00 > 0:21:04I had the upbringing a nun would envy and that's the truth.

0:21:04 > 0:21:08Until I was 15, I was more familiar with Africa than my own body.

0:21:08 > 0:21:10That's why I'm so pliable.

0:21:11 > 0:21:15Oh! You've the skin on you like a princess!

0:21:15 > 0:21:19Better than one of those tarts you see dancing about on the telly.

0:21:19 > 0:21:23I like a lad with a smooth body.

0:21:35 > 0:21:37I've been doing my washing today.

0:21:39 > 0:21:41I haven't a stitch on, except for my shoes.

0:21:41 > 0:21:43I'm in the rude under this dress.

0:21:46 > 0:21:49I tell you because you're bound to have noticed.

0:21:49 > 0:21:51I've been worried for fear of embarrassing you.

0:21:53 > 0:21:55Mr Sloane!

0:21:55 > 0:21:57Don't betray your trust!

0:21:57 > 0:21:59- I just thought... - I know what you thought!

0:21:59 > 0:22:02You wanted to see if my titties were all my own! You're all the same!

0:22:02 > 0:22:04Oh! I must be careful of you.

0:22:04 > 0:22:08Have me naked on the floor, given half a chance.

0:22:08 > 0:22:11Oh, if my brother were to know! He's such a possessive man!

0:22:11 > 0:22:13Would you like to go to bed?

0:22:15 > 0:22:17SHE BREATHES HARD

0:22:17 > 0:22:22The resemblance between Kath and my mother

0:22:22 > 0:22:27is startlingly obvious to members of the family.

0:22:27 > 0:22:32Joe came home and brought a tape-recorder with him,

0:22:32 > 0:22:37and put the microphone behind a loaf of bread

0:22:37 > 0:22:40and he would record my mother.

0:22:40 > 0:22:46And Joe was having to shove a handkerchief into his mouth

0:22:46 > 0:22:48to make himself stop laughing.

0:22:48 > 0:22:53All Joe's female characters, there's a love/hate relationship going on.

0:22:53 > 0:22:55He loves to hate them.

0:23:00 > 0:23:03Her brother then turns up, who seems to run a business

0:23:03 > 0:23:06of very doubtful legality.

0:23:06 > 0:23:10In fact, he seems to be a bit of a gangster, if anything.

0:23:10 > 0:23:11But is powerful and...

0:23:11 > 0:23:15disapproves entirely of what his sister is doing.

0:23:17 > 0:23:19And it doesn't take you long to realise,

0:23:19 > 0:23:20from his reactions to the boy,

0:23:20 > 0:23:22that he also fancies the young boy.

0:23:22 > 0:23:24Yeah, we had a nice little gym at the orphanage.

0:23:24 > 0:23:26Put me in all the teams, they did.

0:23:26 > 0:23:29Relays, soccer,

0:23:29 > 0:23:32pole-vault, long distance.

0:23:32 > 0:23:34Yeah, yes, yes, yes,

0:23:34 > 0:23:36I'm an all-rounder...

0:23:36 > 0:23:38in anything you care to mention...

0:23:39 > 0:23:41..even in life.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50Little body-builder, are you? I bet you are.

0:23:51 > 0:23:55Do you...do you exercise regular?

0:23:55 > 0:23:56As clockwork.

0:23:56 > 0:23:58Good, good. Stripped?

0:23:58 > 0:23:59Fully.

0:23:59 > 0:24:01How invigorating.

0:24:01 > 0:24:04And I box. I'm a bit of a boxer.

0:24:04 > 0:24:06- You ever done any wrestling? - On occasions.

0:24:06 > 0:24:09- So-so.- I've got a full chest.

0:24:09 > 0:24:12- Narrow hips, my biceps are... - Do you wear leather?

0:24:14 > 0:24:16Next to your skin?

0:24:18 > 0:24:22Leather jeans, say, without...?

0:24:22 > 0:24:23Pants?

0:24:25 > 0:24:28HE CHUCKLES Get away!

0:24:29 > 0:24:31Question is, are you clean living?

0:24:34 > 0:24:36You might as well know, I set a great store by morals.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39There's too much of this casual bunking up nowadays.

0:24:39 > 0:24:41There's too many lads getting ruined by birds.

0:24:41 > 0:24:42I don't want you messing about with my sister.

0:24:42 > 0:24:45- I wouldn't. - Have you made overtures to her?- No!

0:24:46 > 0:24:47Does she disgust you?

0:24:48 > 0:24:50Should she?

0:24:50 > 0:24:52It's better if she did.

0:24:52 > 0:24:53I've no interest in her.

0:24:56 > 0:24:59I've a certain amount of influence, friends with money.

0:25:01 > 0:25:02I own two cars.

0:25:04 > 0:25:06You judge for yourself.

0:25:06 > 0:25:10I generally spend my holidays in places where the bints have got rings through their noses.

0:25:14 > 0:25:18Women are like banks, boy. Breaking and entering is a serious business.

0:25:18 > 0:25:22You give me your word you're not...vaginalatrous?

0:25:24 > 0:25:25I'm not.

0:25:29 > 0:25:31I believe you.

0:25:34 > 0:25:37When the script arrived for Entertaining Mr Sloane,

0:25:37 > 0:25:41I took one look at it, I saw the subject and I just chucked it across the room

0:25:41 > 0:25:44and I said, "I really don't want to do it."

0:25:44 > 0:25:48And then my vanity crept in.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51Ha-ha! Always a strong force.

0:25:51 > 0:25:55Um...so I looked at it again and I thought,

0:25:55 > 0:25:58"This is actually a very prominent part in a play in London."

0:25:58 > 0:26:02And I realised that Sloane was not actually queer.

0:26:02 > 0:26:06Sloane was... Sloane had a salami in his trousers,

0:26:06 > 0:26:09with which he negotiated his life.

0:26:09 > 0:26:12I'd seen quite a lot of that in the RAF.

0:26:12 > 0:26:15Sloane makes a pragmatic decision

0:26:15 > 0:26:18to come into the house,

0:26:18 > 0:26:21sleep with the sister

0:26:21 > 0:26:26and then also comes to an arrangement with the brother.

0:26:26 > 0:26:30Now, it's my view that that is, in a sense,

0:26:30 > 0:26:35psychologically, exactly what Orton was about.

0:26:35 > 0:26:41Orton, we know, did have some heterosexual relations

0:26:41 > 0:26:44prior to meeting Halliwell at RADA.

0:26:44 > 0:26:48And I think underneath the comedy of this,

0:26:48 > 0:26:55there is some admission of Orton's life in the drama.

0:26:55 > 0:26:57You can't pin the tail on the donkey,

0:26:57 > 0:27:01but I think that that reflects some aspect

0:27:01 > 0:27:04of his own very ruthless pragmatism.

0:27:08 > 0:27:10Let him choose. Let's have it in black and white, boy.

0:27:12 > 0:27:15- I'm going with Ed.- Is it the colour of the curtains in your room?!

0:27:15 > 0:27:17- No.- Is it because I'm pregnant?

0:27:17 > 0:27:20No. Better opportunities. A new life.

0:27:20 > 0:27:22You vowed you loved me!

0:27:22 > 0:27:23- Never for a second. - I was kind to you!

0:27:23 > 0:27:26- Yeah.- And you're grateful?

0:27:26 > 0:27:30- I paid.- I paid, too.

0:27:30 > 0:27:32Reputation ruined. Baby on the way!

0:27:32 > 0:27:34- CHUCKLES:- You had no reputation!

0:27:34 > 0:27:35Is that what he's taught you?

0:27:35 > 0:27:39I taught him nothing. He was innocent until you got your maulers onto him.

0:27:39 > 0:27:41He'd packed the experience of a lifetime into a few short years.

0:27:41 > 0:27:44Pure in heart, he was. He wouldn't know where to put it.

0:27:44 > 0:27:47- I attracted him instantly. - You couldn't attract a blind man.

0:27:47 > 0:27:50Look in the glass, lady, let's all enjoy a laugh. What do you see?

0:27:51 > 0:27:53- Me!- You've nothing to lure any man!

0:27:56 > 0:27:58- Is that the truth, Mr Sloane? - More or less.

0:27:58 > 0:27:59Well, why didn't you tell me?

0:27:59 > 0:28:02How could he tell you?! You showed him the gate of hell every night!

0:28:02 > 0:28:04He abandoned hope when he entered there!

0:28:04 > 0:28:08Mr Sloane...I believed you were a good boy.

0:28:10 > 0:28:12I find you have deceived me.

0:28:12 > 0:28:14You deceived yourself.

0:28:14 > 0:28:15Perhaps.

0:28:15 > 0:28:17I was never subtle, Mr Sloane.

0:28:19 > 0:28:20If you go with Eddie, I'll tell the police.

0:28:23 > 0:28:25If I stay here, he'll do the same.

0:28:25 > 0:28:29It's what is called a dilemma, boy. You're on the horns of it.

0:28:31 > 0:28:33You see how things are, Mr Sloane?

0:28:33 > 0:28:35We'll discuss the matter.

0:28:35 > 0:28:38We need action, not discussion. Persuade her! Persuade her!

0:28:38 > 0:28:42Don't use that tone of voice to me, boy. I'll not be dictated to.

0:28:44 > 0:28:48An arrangement to suit all tastes,

0:28:48 > 0:28:49that's what's needed.

0:28:52 > 0:28:53Don't saddle her with me for life!

0:28:53 > 0:28:56As long as you're prepared to accept the idea of a partnership.

0:28:56 > 0:28:59Eddie, I think it's very clever of you to think of such a lovely idea.

0:29:01 > 0:29:04Oh, he's close to tears! Isn't he sweet?

0:29:05 > 0:29:07Yeah.

0:29:09 > 0:29:12He's definitely attractive in adversity.

0:29:15 > 0:29:19And I hadn't...was not much of a theatre-goer.

0:29:19 > 0:29:21This sounded very, very intriguing, this play.

0:29:21 > 0:29:23I think it was at Wyndham's.

0:29:23 > 0:29:25I think I saved up and went and saw it.

0:29:25 > 0:29:29The absolute sort of lack of moral judgment,

0:29:29 > 0:29:31I found very attractive.

0:29:31 > 0:29:36My impression was that the audience of Entertaining Mr Sloane

0:29:36 > 0:29:38was a little bit baffled.

0:29:38 > 0:29:41I mean, it still was the age of...

0:29:41 > 0:29:42you know, cups of tea in the interval

0:29:42 > 0:29:44and people standing up for the national anthem,

0:29:44 > 0:29:48so some old man being beaten to death by a rent boy

0:29:48 > 0:29:50behind a sofa was not what they were used to.

0:29:56 > 0:30:00Joe kept a scrapbook on Sloane

0:30:00 > 0:30:04and he filled it with all sorts of cut-outs

0:30:04 > 0:30:07from different newspapers.

0:30:07 > 0:30:10He was really proud of his success

0:30:10 > 0:30:14and he wanted to record as much of it as he could.

0:30:17 > 0:30:21You probably know about the notice we got in The Telegraph.

0:30:21 > 0:30:25Well, the critic was a man called WA Darlington, who was of a great age,

0:30:25 > 0:30:28and he ended his review by saying,

0:30:28 > 0:30:32"I felt snakes were writhing at my feet".

0:30:34 > 0:30:37And, of course, Edna Welthorpe writes back and said,

0:30:37 > 0:30:41"I, too, felt that snakes were writhing around my feet.

0:30:41 > 0:30:45"Well, let's hope that the general public will soon strike back."

0:30:45 > 0:30:50Edna Welthorpe was a Mary Whitehouse figure...

0:30:52 > 0:30:55..who wrote to the newspapers,

0:30:55 > 0:30:59condemned and slammed Entertaining Mr Sloane.

0:31:02 > 0:31:06Edna Welthorpe was the pseudonym of Joe Orton.

0:31:06 > 0:31:10What was splendid about the play was that it was produced

0:31:10 > 0:31:16in an atmosphere of the News of the World of salacious gossip, filth.

0:31:16 > 0:31:17They loved filth!

0:31:17 > 0:31:20People would come to the show looking for filth!

0:31:20 > 0:31:23And, um...it was the time of Profumo.

0:31:23 > 0:31:27Do you remember the scandal with...Christine Keeler?

0:31:28 > 0:31:34The joy of Orton was his love of hypocrisy.

0:31:34 > 0:31:38It then became extremely fashionable.

0:31:38 > 0:31:39This was the thing that surprised us,

0:31:39 > 0:31:41that we had the likes of Rattigan,

0:31:41 > 0:31:45Vivian Lee and Peter Willes,

0:31:45 > 0:31:48the head of TV drama, all taking Joe up.

0:31:48 > 0:31:52It's hard to imagine having been in jail

0:31:52 > 0:31:57and suddenly, within a year, going from that

0:31:57 > 0:32:02to being celebrated as this new, promising author

0:32:02 > 0:32:04of a hit West End play.

0:32:04 > 0:32:06He's suddenly broken through.

0:32:08 > 0:32:10It's jail that's helped me get this far.

0:32:10 > 0:32:13It's no good saying it was hard work.

0:32:13 > 0:32:15Now I've written two plays that have been produced.

0:32:15 > 0:32:18It hasn't changed me, though, a bit of success.

0:32:18 > 0:32:20I still like the same things,

0:32:20 > 0:32:22only now I can have more of them.

0:32:25 > 0:32:29I was walking one day along the King's Road

0:32:29 > 0:32:32and Joe was walking towards me.

0:32:32 > 0:32:36As we sort of passed each other, our eyes met...

0:32:37 > 0:32:41..and I think there was a definite sort of attraction between us.

0:32:41 > 0:32:44And we walked past each other

0:32:44 > 0:32:46and then both stopped and looked back.

0:32:46 > 0:32:49I was just feeling excited,

0:32:49 > 0:32:52but I was slightly worried.

0:32:52 > 0:32:54I wasn't really sure what was going to happen.

0:32:54 > 0:32:59He then took me into a department store - Peter Jones.

0:32:59 > 0:33:02We went down to the toilets,

0:33:02 > 0:33:06then we became more intimately acquainted.

0:33:06 > 0:33:08While we were in the toilet,

0:33:08 > 0:33:12I was certainly concerned that somebody may come in.

0:33:12 > 0:33:16I think that probably added to the frisson of excitement.

0:33:16 > 0:33:20At the time, it was a bit like being a spy or something.

0:33:20 > 0:33:24He had told me that he lived with Kenneth Halliwell.

0:33:24 > 0:33:27We went back into the flat.

0:33:27 > 0:33:29We weren't there all that long

0:33:29 > 0:33:34and, um...suddenly Kenneth appeared, he came in.

0:33:34 > 0:33:38And when we saw me, he was extremely annoyed

0:33:38 > 0:33:41and asked who the hell I was.

0:33:41 > 0:33:44But Joe was probably just sort of dangling this

0:33:44 > 0:33:46in front of Kenneth a bit

0:33:46 > 0:33:50and I got the feeling he did that a bit, sort of...

0:33:50 > 0:33:52BELL TOLLS

0:33:53 > 0:33:58If you look at the structure of Entertaining Mr Sloane,

0:33:58 > 0:34:01it's farcical in places.

0:34:01 > 0:34:03He knew he wanted to write a farce.

0:34:03 > 0:34:05He's looking for a form

0:34:05 > 0:34:09in which he can essentially comment

0:34:09 > 0:34:12both visually and verbally

0:34:12 > 0:34:15more powerfully about society.

0:34:15 > 0:34:22You're introduced to a typical family at a moment of bereavement

0:34:22 > 0:34:27and you think, "Oh, my goodness, this is going to be a play

0:34:27 > 0:34:29"about rather dull people".

0:34:29 > 0:34:33And then extraordinary things start to come out.

0:34:33 > 0:34:36The nurse is actually a murderess,

0:34:36 > 0:34:39who's murdered several husbands before.

0:34:39 > 0:34:42Your wife changed her will right before she died.

0:34:42 > 0:34:44She left all her money to me.

0:34:44 > 0:34:46- What? Is it legal?- Perfectly.

0:34:46 > 0:34:50She must have been drunk. What about me and the boy?

0:34:50 > 0:34:53I'm surprised that you've taken this attitude. Have you no sense of decency?

0:34:53 > 0:34:58Oh, it's God's judgment on me for marrying a Protestant!

0:34:58 > 0:35:00How much has she left you?

0:35:00 > 0:35:03£19,000, including her bonds and her jewels.

0:35:03 > 0:35:06Employing you has cost me a fortune!

0:35:06 > 0:35:09You must be the most expensive nurse in history!

0:35:09 > 0:35:11You don't imagine I want the money for myself, do you?

0:35:11 > 0:35:13- Yes.- Well, that's unworthy of you!

0:35:13 > 0:35:16I'm most embarrassed by Mrs McLeavy's generosity.

0:35:16 > 0:35:18- You'll destroy the will? - I wish I could.

0:35:18 > 0:35:21- Why can't you?- It's a legal document. I could be sued.

0:35:21 > 0:35:23- By whom?- The beneficiary.

0:35:23 > 0:35:26That's you. You'd never sue yourself!

0:35:26 > 0:35:29I might...if I was pushed too far.

0:35:29 > 0:35:32We must find a way of conveying the money into your bank account.

0:35:32 > 0:35:34Couldn't you just give it to me?

0:35:34 > 0:35:35Think of the scandal!

0:35:35 > 0:35:37What do you suggest, then?

0:35:37 > 0:35:39We must have a joint bank account.

0:35:39 > 0:35:42Wouldn't that cause an even bigger scandal?

0:35:42 > 0:35:44Not if we were married.

0:35:44 > 0:35:48Married?! But then you'd have my money, as well as Mrs McLeavy's!

0:35:48 > 0:35:50That's one way of looking at it.

0:35:50 > 0:35:54Go ahead, ask me to marry you. I have no intentions of refusing.

0:35:54 > 0:35:58Use any form of proposal you like. Try to avoid abstract nouns.

0:35:59 > 0:36:01Well, everybody in the profession knew about it

0:36:01 > 0:36:04because Kenneth Williams was playing the lead

0:36:04 > 0:36:06and Kenneth Williams was a brilliant comic actor.

0:36:06 > 0:36:09It was obviously an event that we were all waiting for.

0:36:09 > 0:36:13We heard that, on tour, people had walked out and were furious

0:36:13 > 0:36:16and disgusted by it,

0:36:16 > 0:36:21but we also heard that it had been missproduced.

0:36:21 > 0:36:24It had been given a heavily-stylised production.

0:36:24 > 0:36:29And also, Kenneth Williams couldn't do anything else but the gags,

0:36:29 > 0:36:31couldn't do the serious side of everything,

0:36:31 > 0:36:33so the whole thing had been a disaster.

0:36:33 > 0:36:34It was an all-star cast,

0:36:34 > 0:36:39but they couldn't get to the...

0:36:39 > 0:36:40The play wasn't working.

0:36:40 > 0:36:46Orton wrote 100...nearly 150 pages of new material.

0:36:46 > 0:36:49He was continually doing rewrites.

0:36:49 > 0:36:50It was a nightmare.

0:36:52 > 0:36:54We played Bournemouth with it,

0:36:54 > 0:36:59which Kenneth Williams described as "the graveyard of our hopes".

0:36:59 > 0:37:02A woman came up to me and shook her fist and said,

0:37:02 > 0:37:04"It was Felicity's 21st,"

0:37:04 > 0:37:08as if we'd ruined this poor girl's entry into womanhood.

0:37:10 > 0:37:12Everyone is now on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

0:37:12 > 0:37:14Kenneth Williams is disastrous!

0:37:14 > 0:37:17IMITATES KENNETH: "How many husbands have you had?"

0:37:17 > 0:37:20And he wonders why he's not getting any laughs!

0:37:20 > 0:37:23I wouldn't have believed when I wrote the play it could be this difficult!

0:37:23 > 0:37:26I'll get back as soon as humanly possible, Ken.

0:37:26 > 0:37:27I'm not gallivanting around down here.

0:37:27 > 0:37:30It's the most depressing few weeks I've ever lived through!

0:37:31 > 0:37:34The show closed miserably out of town

0:37:34 > 0:37:38and, as far as Orton was concerned,

0:37:38 > 0:37:41it was over and he was a failure.

0:37:41 > 0:37:45And it was at that point I said, "You should meet Braham Murray".

0:37:45 > 0:37:48Michael Codron phoned me and said,

0:37:48 > 0:37:51"I have just done this production of Loot by Joe Orton,

0:37:51 > 0:37:54"which I think is a brilliant play, and it failed,

0:37:54 > 0:37:56"but I still believe in the play. Could you do it?"

0:37:56 > 0:37:59Well, I read it, I loved it.

0:37:59 > 0:38:01I worked with Joe

0:38:01 > 0:38:05and I found him very much wanting to make things work,

0:38:05 > 0:38:07wanting to make things happen.

0:38:07 > 0:38:09He was an artist. Yes, he knew.

0:38:09 > 0:38:11He believed he was writing something special

0:38:11 > 0:38:13and he was right that he was.

0:38:13 > 0:38:16And any great artist will go on doing it,

0:38:16 > 0:38:18no matter what they're told.

0:38:18 > 0:38:22Braham Murray got Orton to cut and shape the play,

0:38:22 > 0:38:26and that production was considerably better,

0:38:26 > 0:38:34and it was then brought into town by Charles Marowitz.

0:38:34 > 0:38:36I got the part of Hal

0:38:36 > 0:38:39and my companion was Simon Ward,

0:38:39 > 0:38:41so we were quite...

0:38:41 > 0:38:44sort of the blonde and the brunette, in a way.

0:38:44 > 0:38:47And looking back, we were the ingenues.

0:38:49 > 0:38:51You can see what Orton's doing.

0:38:51 > 0:38:53Now the fun machine was starting to move.

0:38:53 > 0:38:57People were in and out of doors, things were tipped over,

0:38:57 > 0:39:00and you can see that he's teasing every piety

0:39:00 > 0:39:04and turning it upside down and testing it.

0:39:06 > 0:39:09The two boys are actually, apart from being lovers,

0:39:09 > 0:39:13are robbers who have robbed a bank, which is next door.

0:39:13 > 0:39:15Try to control yourself.

0:39:15 > 0:39:18If I come back and find you've been telling the truth all afternoon, we're through.

0:39:24 > 0:39:27It's a farce about a corpse

0:39:27 > 0:39:34and how much reverence, if you like, is paid to a dead body.

0:39:34 > 0:39:37Come here. Open the cupboard.

0:39:37 > 0:39:38Why are you so interested?

0:39:38 > 0:39:41Don't hesitate to obey me. Open the cupboard!

0:39:41 > 0:39:42I...I've got something in there!

0:39:42 > 0:39:45- What?- A corpse.

0:39:45 > 0:39:48Where are you concealing the money?

0:39:50 > 0:39:52In my mother's coffin.

0:39:52 > 0:39:54Argh!

0:39:54 > 0:39:56This is unforgiveable!

0:39:56 > 0:39:58I shall speak to your father!

0:39:58 > 0:40:00She's standing on her head!

0:40:00 > 0:40:03I want her buried. Are you prepared to help me?

0:40:05 > 0:40:07I want the body stripped.

0:40:07 > 0:40:10It isn't a thing someone of the opposite sex can do to a woman.

0:40:10 > 0:40:13I'm her relative, which complicates the issue.

0:40:13 > 0:40:15Put her in there.

0:40:18 > 0:40:21Well, I need help getting her out of the cupboard!

0:40:26 > 0:40:29- I'm not taking the head end. - She won't bite! You have gloves on!

0:40:29 > 0:40:31SHE SIGHS

0:40:35 > 0:40:37Oh, what was that?!

0:40:37 > 0:40:40Nothing. It's nothing.

0:40:42 > 0:40:45Lovely shaped feet your mother had, I mean, for a woman of her age.

0:40:47 > 0:40:49What will you do with the money?

0:40:49 > 0:40:51I might just run a brothel.

0:40:51 > 0:40:52I'd run a two-star brothel

0:40:52 > 0:40:55and, if I prospered, I'd graduate to a three-star brothel.

0:40:55 > 0:40:58I'd advertise by appointment...

0:40:59 > 0:41:02..like Jam.

0:41:02 > 0:41:04I'd have a spade bird, I don't agree with the colour bar,

0:41:04 > 0:41:06and a Finnish bird.

0:41:06 > 0:41:09- I'd make them kip together, bring out the contrast.- Oh!

0:41:11 > 0:41:13I'd have two Irish birds,

0:41:13 > 0:41:16a decent Catholic and a Protestant.

0:41:16 > 0:41:17I'd make the Protestant take the Catholics

0:41:17 > 0:41:21and the Catholic take the Protestants. Teach them how the other half live.

0:41:21 > 0:41:23Have you committed to removing the teeth?

0:41:23 > 0:41:27I'd have a French bird and a bird who spoke fluent Spanish

0:41:27 > 0:41:30and performed the dances of her native country to perfection!

0:41:39 > 0:41:41I began writing at 11.

0:41:41 > 0:41:43At 20 past, the telephone rang.

0:41:45 > 0:41:49"I've rung to tell you your mum died this morning," the caller said.

0:41:50 > 0:41:53Leonie rang at about six.

0:41:53 > 0:41:54I promised to go home tomorrow.

0:41:54 > 0:41:58As the corpse is downstairs in the living room, it means going out

0:41:58 > 0:42:00or watching television with death at one's elbow.

0:42:00 > 0:42:03My father, fumbling out of bed in the middle of the night,

0:42:03 > 0:42:07bumped into the coffin and nearly had the corpse on the floor.

0:42:11 > 0:42:12Leonie and I spent the afternoon

0:42:12 > 0:42:15throwing out junk collected over the years.

0:42:15 > 0:42:17I found a cup containing a pair of false teeth

0:42:17 > 0:42:19and threw it in the dustbin,

0:42:19 > 0:42:22then I discovered they belonged to my father and I had to rescue them.

0:42:22 > 0:42:26I found my mother's teeth in a drawer, I kept them...

0:42:26 > 0:42:29To amaze the cast of Loot.

0:42:29 > 0:42:34And in the corridor, the long corridor underneath the Criterion,

0:42:34 > 0:42:36he threw them through the air

0:42:36 > 0:42:39and I cupped my hands to catch them and I saw what they were.

0:42:39 > 0:42:44The ones I had in the show were pink and white, straight out of a shop.

0:42:44 > 0:42:49These ones were all sort of green and mildewed

0:42:49 > 0:42:52and chalky and horrible-looking. Eurgh!

0:42:52 > 0:42:55And I behaved like a woman with a mouse.

0:42:55 > 0:42:57KNOCK AT DOOR

0:43:14 > 0:43:17- What's going on in this house? - Nothing.

0:43:20 > 0:43:24We sat together in the stalls

0:43:24 > 0:43:28and we were... I was laughing so much.

0:43:28 > 0:43:30And I said to him, "I don't know how you get away with it".

0:43:30 > 0:43:32I said, "Oh, Joe, I love it".

0:43:32 > 0:43:36I mean, Loot was the play that broke Orton out, right?

0:43:36 > 0:43:39It was a hit. It was a West End hit.

0:43:39 > 0:43:42The balance was correctly found

0:43:42 > 0:43:47between the farcical elements and the macabre tone.

0:43:47 > 0:43:53The teasing of received opinion about the police.

0:43:53 > 0:43:58I'm sure that his experience with the law and prison

0:43:58 > 0:44:00were part of the creation of Loot,

0:44:00 > 0:44:04that was really the main, the centre, of the comedy.

0:44:04 > 0:44:09Orton used that idea of getting arrested for Truscott of the yard.

0:44:12 > 0:44:16Now, then, I'm going to ask a few questions. You ever been in prison?

0:44:16 > 0:44:18- Yes.- What for?

0:44:18 > 0:44:20Stealing overcoats and biting a policeman.

0:44:20 > 0:44:22The theft of an article of clothing is excusable,

0:44:22 > 0:44:25but policemen, like red squirrels, must be protected.

0:44:25 > 0:44:28You were rightly convicted. What you doing with this dummy?

0:44:28 > 0:44:30- You taken up sewing? - I was putting it in the cupboard.

0:44:30 > 0:44:32- Why?- To keep it hidden.

0:44:36 > 0:44:37Don't try to pull the wool over my eyes.

0:44:37 > 0:44:40- Where's the money from the bank job? - What bank job?

0:44:40 > 0:44:41- Your mate says it's been buried. - He's a liar!

0:44:41 > 0:44:43It's a very sensible reply.

0:44:43 > 0:44:46You're an honest lad, are you prepared to cooperate? I'll put a good word in for you.

0:44:46 > 0:44:49- I don't want anybody seeing me talking to a policeman. - I'm not a policeman.- Aren't you?

0:44:49 > 0:44:52No, I'm from the Metropolitan Water Board.

0:44:52 > 0:44:55You're the law! You gave me a kicking down the station!

0:44:55 > 0:44:58- I don't remember doing so.- It's all in a day's work to you, isn't it?

0:44:58 > 0:45:00- What were you doing down the station?- I was on SUS.

0:45:00 > 0:45:01- What were you suspected of? - The bank job.

0:45:01 > 0:45:04- You complain you were beaten? - Yes.- Did you tell anyone?- Yes.

0:45:04 > 0:45:06- Who?- The officer in charge. - What did he say?- Nothing.

0:45:06 > 0:45:08- Why not?- He was out of breath with kicking.

0:45:08 > 0:45:11I hope you're prepared to substantiate these accusations, lad.

0:45:11 > 0:45:14- What evidence have you?- My bruises.

0:45:14 > 0:45:16- What's the official version of those?- Resisting arrest.

0:45:19 > 0:45:21I can see nothing unreasonable in that.

0:45:23 > 0:45:26If I ever hear you

0:45:26 > 0:45:29accuse the police of using violence against a prisoner in custody again,

0:45:29 > 0:45:33I'll take you down the station and I'll beat the eyes out of your head!

0:45:34 > 0:45:36Now, get out!

0:45:38 > 0:45:42And take that thing with you. I don't want to see it in here again.

0:45:48 > 0:45:50SQUELCH!

0:45:58 > 0:46:02Loot was a success and he was chic.

0:46:02 > 0:46:05I mean, he was mordent, he was ironic,

0:46:05 > 0:46:09he was absolutely quintessentially of the moment.

0:46:09 > 0:46:13Ken was very much a part of that success.

0:46:13 > 0:46:18The new production of Loot had brought them fresh hope

0:46:18 > 0:46:21and he started appearing with Kenneth.

0:46:21 > 0:46:23They would actually turn up at things together.

0:46:23 > 0:46:31Joe's success in the theatre led him towards television plays.

0:46:31 > 0:46:37Peter Willes was the head of Rediffusion Drama.

0:46:40 > 0:46:43Peter Willes had this brilliant idea

0:46:43 > 0:46:47of inviting established playwrights

0:46:47 > 0:46:50to write for the medium of television.

0:46:51 > 0:46:54Very fastidious gentleman.

0:46:54 > 0:46:58He would come to the final run-through

0:46:58 > 0:47:01and sit on a shooting stick

0:47:01 > 0:47:05about a yard and a half away from you.

0:47:05 > 0:47:09A lot of people were quite frightened of him,

0:47:09 > 0:47:11which he rather enjoyed, I think.

0:47:11 > 0:47:15Peter Willes became important to Joe

0:47:15 > 0:47:20because, obviously, it helped his career

0:47:20 > 0:47:24and Willes commissioned The Good and Faithful Servant.

0:47:24 > 0:47:26Do come in!

0:47:26 > 0:47:32The play is about the retirement of an old gentleman

0:47:32 > 0:47:36and the way he's dealt with.

0:47:36 > 0:47:41Um...which is horrifyingly

0:47:41 > 0:47:46impersonal and insensitive.

0:47:46 > 0:47:52And my character, Mrs Vealfoy, was head of personnel.

0:47:52 > 0:47:54Your wife is dead.

0:47:54 > 0:47:57Have you been feeding false information into our computers?

0:47:57 > 0:48:01This woman is not my wife. I...I was young and foolish.

0:48:01 > 0:48:03It all happened a long time ago.

0:48:03 > 0:48:04I shall inform your section manager.

0:48:04 > 0:48:07He must straighten this out with records.

0:48:07 > 0:48:10It is a personal matter. My private life is involved.

0:48:10 > 0:48:12Should your private life be involved,

0:48:12 > 0:48:15we shall be the first to inform you of the fact.

0:48:15 > 0:48:19And when you see Buchanan, it's got to be his father.

0:48:19 > 0:48:24You had to know our father to see what a pathetic soul he was.

0:48:24 > 0:48:28# Happy days are here again

0:48:28 > 0:48:32# The skies above are clear again

0:48:32 > 0:48:37# So let us sing a song of cheer again... #

0:48:37 > 0:48:41He has this weak character and he keeps...

0:48:43 > 0:48:46You know, that seems to be indelibly imprinted

0:48:46 > 0:48:49in Joe's subconscious somewhere.

0:48:49 > 0:48:52I think that Kenneth was becoming like that

0:48:52 > 0:48:57and he was this sort of complaining, winging figure.

0:48:57 > 0:48:58Kenneth was always there,

0:48:58 > 0:49:01like a big, bloated spider sitting in the corner,

0:49:01 > 0:49:03and he wanted to give the impression

0:49:03 > 0:49:06that he was the one that was really behind the works.

0:49:06 > 0:49:09And you could see that there was a tension between them.

0:49:10 > 0:49:13Halliwell was envious.

0:49:17 > 0:49:20He wanted to spoil Orton's parade.

0:49:24 > 0:49:26Orton had to get out of there.

0:49:26 > 0:49:28Life was drawing him out of there.

0:49:28 > 0:49:29People wanted to know him.

0:49:30 > 0:49:32Tonight, from London...

0:49:32 > 0:49:35ORCHESTRA STRIKES UP

0:49:35 > 0:49:37..The Eamonn Andrews Show!

0:49:39 > 0:49:41A woman rang from the Eamonn Andrews Show,

0:49:41 > 0:49:43asking me to be on it this Sunday.

0:49:43 > 0:49:45They offered me £100.

0:49:46 > 0:49:48I accepted.

0:49:48 > 0:49:51- Joe Orton! - APPLAUSE

0:49:58 > 0:49:59Welcome, Joe.

0:49:59 > 0:50:02Well, as I was saying, you're a very successful writer.

0:50:02 > 0:50:04What about this business of spending six months in jail?

0:50:04 > 0:50:06It had something to do with library books, hadn't it?

0:50:06 > 0:50:11Um...well, yes, I used to do very strange things on library books.

0:50:11 > 0:50:12It was really a joke.

0:50:12 > 0:50:15He had acquired a name.

0:50:15 > 0:50:17He was somebody.

0:50:17 > 0:50:20He was suddenly meeting people and having an interesting life,

0:50:20 > 0:50:22and going out of his room,

0:50:22 > 0:50:27and that is what the diaries dramatise.

0:50:27 > 0:50:30Brian Epstein's advisor rang while I was eating a meal

0:50:30 > 0:50:33of mashed potatoes, tinned salmon and beetroot.

0:50:33 > 0:50:37He asked me if I would like to meet the boys on Wednesday.

0:50:37 > 0:50:39I was very impressed with this,

0:50:39 > 0:50:41but I tried to put on a nonchalant manner.

0:50:45 > 0:50:47Paul McCartney was just as the photographs,

0:50:47 > 0:50:50only he'd grown a moustache.

0:50:51 > 0:50:53He was playing the latest Beatles recording - Penny Lane.

0:50:53 > 0:50:55I liked it very much.

0:50:55 > 0:50:59Then he played the other side, Strawberry something.

0:51:00 > 0:51:02I didn't like that one as much.

0:51:02 > 0:51:06Joe really clicked in with the counter culture,

0:51:06 > 0:51:11but in that period it was as if

0:51:11 > 0:51:15everybody was riding a surfboard together.

0:51:16 > 0:51:20"The only thing I get from theatre," Paul M said, "is a sore arse".

0:51:20 > 0:51:23He said that Loot was the only play he hadn't wanted to leave before the end.

0:51:23 > 0:51:26"I'd have liked a bit more," he said.

0:51:26 > 0:51:28We talked of drugs.

0:51:28 > 0:51:32I said I'd smoked hash in Morocco and the atmosphere relaxed a little.

0:51:33 > 0:51:35I had a final word with Paul M.

0:51:35 > 0:51:37"I'd like to do the movie," I said,

0:51:37 > 0:51:40"there's just one thing we have to fix up".

0:51:40 > 0:51:43"You mean the bread?" "Yes."

0:51:43 > 0:51:45We smiled and parted.

0:51:46 > 0:51:47I got a cab home.

0:51:48 > 0:51:51He sent me a letter telling me

0:51:51 > 0:51:56that his agent had secured a £10,000 fee.

0:51:56 > 0:51:59The letter fell from my hands, I think,

0:51:59 > 0:52:01because I was so astonished.

0:52:01 > 0:52:04And I thought, "Wow!

0:52:04 > 0:52:09"My brother is really rich!

0:52:09 > 0:52:11"He's really made the grade!"

0:52:15 > 0:52:18I spent the morning reading what I'd written of The Beatles script,

0:52:18 > 0:52:20then I went to see the producer, Walter Shenson.

0:52:20 > 0:52:21American.

0:52:21 > 0:52:24He was most concerned to impress upon me the boys shouldn't be made

0:52:24 > 0:52:27to do anything in the film that might reflect badly upon them.

0:52:27 > 0:52:30"The kids will imitate whatever the boys do," he said.

0:52:32 > 0:52:34I hadn't the heart to tell him the boys in my script

0:52:34 > 0:52:37have already committed adultery, been caught in flagrante,

0:52:37 > 0:52:40become involved in dubious political activity,

0:52:40 > 0:52:43dressed as women, committed murder and been put in prison.

0:52:43 > 0:52:45And the script isn't finished yet.

0:52:53 > 0:52:57The townsfolk won't tolerate your indiscretions any longer.

0:52:57 > 0:53:00They have recently, with the destruction of the memorial

0:53:00 > 0:53:03to the fallen of two world wars,

0:53:03 > 0:53:05reached monumental proportions.

0:53:05 > 0:53:08I met a man who said he was a World War II veteran.

0:53:08 > 0:53:09He pressed the wreath into my hands,

0:53:09 > 0:53:12begging me to place it under the plaque to his fallen comrades.

0:53:12 > 0:53:15This, I did. Shortly afterwards, the memorial exploded.

0:53:15 > 0:53:17I had nothing whatever to do with the outrage.

0:53:17 > 0:53:23Never in the whole of my life have I heard anything so lame and stupid!

0:53:23 > 0:53:27I won't waste more time discussing your conduct!

0:53:27 > 0:53:29I'll come straight to the point.

0:53:29 > 0:53:33At 4:00am this morning, my own niece, Rowena Torrance,

0:53:33 > 0:53:37was seen to enter your room in an advanced state of nudity.

0:53:37 > 0:53:41What excuse had she for being with you at that hour?

0:53:41 > 0:53:44She'd come to...borrow a cup of sugar.

0:53:44 > 0:53:46She's on a diet!

0:53:46 > 0:53:49- I didn't give into her demands. - Was she provocative?

0:53:49 > 0:53:51Nobody's provocative at four in the morning.

0:53:51 > 0:53:54It wasn't me who let your niece into the room.

0:53:54 > 0:53:57That isn't true. I saw the incident with my own eyes.

0:53:57 > 0:54:00Do you confirm that, Superintendent?

0:54:00 > 0:54:02I handed you the binoculars myself.

0:54:02 > 0:54:05And you left the blind up, as well, McTurk.

0:54:06 > 0:54:10The last indulgence of a sensualist.

0:54:12 > 0:54:16Hm! My niece, upon careful scrutiny,

0:54:16 > 0:54:19appears to be as much in need of repair

0:54:19 > 0:54:21as the memorial to the fallen.

0:54:21 > 0:54:23For your outrage upon the living

0:54:23 > 0:54:25and your friend's outrage upon the dead,

0:54:25 > 0:54:29the city fathers have decided to expel you both from this fair city.

0:54:30 > 0:54:33Can't I see Rowena to say farewell? I-I love her very much!

0:54:33 > 0:54:35It seems a pity not to return a cup of sugar.

0:54:38 > 0:54:41He didn't take the commission that seriously.

0:54:41 > 0:54:45He sort of... He just tossed, no pun intended, he tossed it off.

0:54:45 > 0:54:46He wanted to put The Beatles

0:54:46 > 0:54:50in a lot of compromising sexual positions, you know,

0:54:50 > 0:54:54and I think that was the thing that actually got the script killed.

0:54:54 > 0:54:57That's a Dionysian impulse.

0:55:00 > 0:55:04This is the spirit of a great comic writer.

0:55:04 > 0:55:08It's infantile, it's crazed, it's vindictive.

0:55:08 > 0:55:14His ambition here is to drive an audience crazy.

0:55:14 > 0:55:19Joe did push the boundaries of what was considered acceptable.

0:55:19 > 0:55:21I mean, even today I have at home

0:55:21 > 0:55:27some really outrageous, still unpublished stuff.

0:55:27 > 0:55:32It shows that Joe always wants to be really provocative.

0:55:32 > 0:55:33He really wants to shock you.

0:55:33 > 0:55:36It does shock you, but it's still funny.

0:55:36 > 0:55:39I'd been asked to do a sketch to do with sex for a review that's

0:55:39 > 0:55:40being put on.

0:55:40 > 0:55:42Kenneth Tynan is involved.

0:55:42 > 0:55:46He said there was going to be no phoney artistic shit.

0:55:46 > 0:55:48Since the review is called Oh! Calcutta!,

0:55:48 > 0:55:50it begins with an artistic title.

0:55:51 > 0:55:53I wasn't going to put myself out, but then

0:55:53 > 0:55:58I found an old pornographic sketch I wrote long before Sloane or Ruffian.

0:55:58 > 0:56:01I typed it up, reworked some of the pornographic elements

0:56:01 > 0:56:03and posted it off.

0:56:03 > 0:56:06They can have the sketch...if they dare to do it.

0:56:09 > 0:56:11SHE SIGHS

0:56:11 > 0:56:12I can't get it enough.

0:56:13 > 0:56:17Poor Auntie. Your old hole is never satisfied.

0:56:17 > 0:56:18How can it be?

0:56:18 > 0:56:22I haven't had anyone interfere with me since I was two...

0:56:22 > 0:56:26Except my old English sheepdog and you occasionally.

0:56:26 > 0:56:27Oh, never mind, dear.

0:56:27 > 0:56:29Charles has promised to bring a friend over

0:56:29 > 0:56:30to poke you one of these days.

0:56:30 > 0:56:33I know, dear, but Charles has promised to bring this

0:56:33 > 0:56:36hypothetical friend for so long, but he always disappoints me.

0:56:37 > 0:56:40Have you tried a rolled up copy of a Lady's Friend?

0:56:40 > 0:56:42I've tried everything from the London Illustrated News

0:56:42 > 0:56:44to Peg's Paper.

0:56:44 > 0:56:48None of them has the correct...pliancy and...verve.

0:56:48 > 0:56:51Well, of course, you could always borrow Charles.

0:56:51 > 0:56:53- DOOR OPENS - Oh, shush! Here he is now.- Hello.

0:56:53 > 0:56:56Hello, Eliza. Oh, I feel shagged out.

0:56:56 > 0:56:58We were just talking about you.

0:56:58 > 0:57:01Couldn't we have it in less, Laura?

0:57:01 > 0:57:03My balls feel as though they're made of cotton wool.

0:57:03 > 0:57:04SHE SIGHS

0:57:04 > 0:57:06What on earth is the matter with you, Eliza?

0:57:06 > 0:57:07Laura hoped that you might have

0:57:07 > 0:57:09managed to give it to me for a change.

0:57:09 > 0:57:12You see, poor Auntie hasn't had good shag since she was two.

0:57:13 > 0:57:14When would you like it?

0:57:14 > 0:57:17Well, now please, if you could manage.

0:57:17 > 0:57:18My dear, if only I could.

0:57:19 > 0:57:22But you see, Laura gave me one of her vacuum sessions.

0:57:22 > 0:57:24The end of the vacuum cleaner is fitted over the end of...

0:57:24 > 0:57:26Stop!

0:57:26 > 0:57:29If only I had a prick, instead of this smelly, old hole,

0:57:29 > 0:57:31I could have such a time.

0:57:31 > 0:57:34Ugh! I am frustrated, I have been for years.

0:57:34 > 0:57:37Don't talk to me about frustration.

0:57:37 > 0:57:39When I was little, I used to hang around outside

0:57:39 > 0:57:42the headmaster's study in the hope of getting a good thrashing.

0:57:44 > 0:57:46Other boys used to be caned, whipped.

0:57:48 > 0:57:50- I got nothing. - How humiliating for you.

0:57:52 > 0:57:54HE GROWLS

0:57:54 > 0:57:55Ohhh!

0:57:57 > 0:57:59I say, Eliza, you're in luck.

0:57:59 > 0:58:00Charlie!

0:58:00 > 0:58:02I knew, if you went on discussing school

0:58:02 > 0:58:06and flagellation, you'd get yourself worked up into such a state.

0:58:06 > 0:58:08Stand by the day bed, Eliza!

0:58:08 > 0:58:10I shall make a charge at you!

0:58:10 > 0:58:12Just lift your dress higher!

0:58:15 > 0:58:16MUSIC STARTS

0:58:16 > 0:58:17Oh, God!

0:58:17 > 0:58:20LOUD MOANING

0:58:20 > 0:58:21Oh, Auntie, I must see!

0:58:24 > 0:58:25MOANING AND SCREAMING

0:58:25 > 0:58:27MUSIC STOPS

0:58:30 > 0:58:32Thank you, Charlie, dear.

0:58:32 > 0:58:34I didn't cum, Eliza.

0:58:34 > 0:58:36I couldn't manage it, so I just peed up you.

0:58:36 > 0:58:39Well, whatever you did, Charles, it was very nice.

0:58:45 > 0:58:47Whatever is the matter with you, Laura?

0:58:47 > 0:58:50While you were diddling Auntie, I got carried away with

0:58:50 > 0:58:51several reels of embroidery cotton.

0:58:51 > 0:58:53I'm afraid the lime green and vermilion

0:58:53 > 0:58:55are still wedged in my maze.

0:58:55 > 0:58:58Oh, really, Laura, how inconsiderate of you!

0:58:58 > 0:59:00I need the lime green for my table runner.

0:59:03 > 0:59:07Joe enjoyed his sex, I think. Yes, he did.

0:59:07 > 0:59:12When I first read Joe's diaries,

0:59:12 > 0:59:14I was shocked...

0:59:15 > 0:59:17..by...

0:59:18 > 0:59:22..the...the revelation...

0:59:22 > 0:59:26of him going to public lavatories

0:59:26 > 0:59:29and parading himself and...

0:59:31 > 0:59:33..wanting to...

0:59:33 > 0:59:36I don't know, use the rough trade for sex.

0:59:36 > 0:59:39On the way home, I met an ugly Scotsman who said

0:59:39 > 0:59:40he liked being fucked.

0:59:40 > 0:59:42I fucked him against a wall.

0:59:42 > 0:59:45The sleeve of my rain mac is covered in white wash from the wall.

0:59:45 > 0:59:46It won't come off.

0:59:48 > 0:59:49I hate Christmas.

0:59:50 > 0:59:56Joe was having such success alone

0:59:56 > 0:59:58that he was...

0:59:58 > 1:00:05beginning to realise that that is perhaps where the future lay.

1:00:05 > 1:00:08And...things that were happening to him,

1:00:08 > 1:00:13like meeting Paul McCartney and things like that, he didn't

1:00:13 > 1:00:16go home to Kenneth, he came straight to the theatre to tell me

1:00:16 > 1:00:20and Simon Ward and, of course, we loved hearing these stories.

1:00:21 > 1:00:25Kenneth was moving further and further away.

1:00:25 > 1:00:31And Kenneth, when he felt threatened by whoever it was,

1:00:31 > 1:00:34he would actually kick up.

1:00:34 > 1:00:37They would go to Morocco and there was quite a long tradition

1:00:37 > 1:00:41of it, almost, that there was some sort of sexual freedom there.

1:00:43 > 1:00:46When they were in Morocco, they seemed very happy together.

1:00:46 > 1:00:50I think that that was their new life.

1:00:50 > 1:00:56I remember I got a card from Kenneth and Joe when they were in Tangier,

1:00:56 > 1:01:01which had a lot of Moroccan boys with snakes curling round them,

1:01:01 > 1:01:03and the message was,

1:01:03 > 1:01:09"The snakes are real. The boys are stuffed. Love, Joe and Ken."

1:01:09 > 1:01:12So they obviously saw eye to eye on that sort of thing.

1:01:12 > 1:01:15They were more relaxed.

1:01:15 > 1:01:19There wasn't a tension of him, or rather Joe,

1:01:19 > 1:01:23going off and seeing all these - inverted commas -

1:01:23 > 1:01:25"important people".

1:01:31 > 1:01:34Just after these were taken, I lay naked on the terrace

1:01:34 > 1:01:37trying to get my back and buttocks a decent colour.

1:01:37 > 1:01:38I burned my bum a bit.

1:01:39 > 1:01:42I took a shower and then Nasim arrived.

1:01:42 > 1:01:44We had a long sex session.

1:01:45 > 1:01:48I'd frequently given my best sexual performance with people

1:01:48 > 1:01:51I didn't love, in fact, rather despised.

1:01:51 > 1:01:54I fucked the arses off ageing queens,

1:01:54 > 1:01:57but found a beautiful, young boy too difficult to cum...

1:01:57 > 1:01:59because I loved him too much.

1:02:00 > 1:02:03After a lunch of hard-boiled eggs and cold potatoes,

1:02:03 > 1:02:05I got down to work.

1:02:05 > 1:02:07Larbe arrived and, after lemon tea,

1:02:07 > 1:02:09he disappeared into the bedroom with Kenneth.

1:02:11 > 1:02:16So Halliwell can be happier in that climate, where he's not

1:02:16 > 1:02:20humiliated and internally reminded of his failure.

1:02:20 > 1:02:23Kenneth and I sat talking of how happy we both felt

1:02:23 > 1:02:25and how surely it couldn't last.

1:02:26 > 1:02:30We'd have to pay for it or be struck down from a fire by disaster.

1:02:31 > 1:02:35To be young, good-looking, healthy, famous, comparatively rich

1:02:35 > 1:02:38and happy is surely going against nature.

1:02:41 > 1:02:44The minute they set foot in London,

1:02:44 > 1:02:47Halliwell is the factotum,

1:02:47 > 1:02:51if anything, and Orton is the man.

1:02:51 > 1:02:57Everybody in, it seems, in the theatre world

1:02:57 > 1:03:01wanted Joe and nobody wanted to meet Kenneth Halliwell.

1:03:06 > 1:03:13Peter Willes actually referred to Kenneth Halliwell as being like

1:03:13 > 1:03:18a writer's wife, and he'd had all these problems with writers' wives,

1:03:18 > 1:03:23and I think he thought that Kenneth now was holding Joe back.

1:03:23 > 1:03:28I was taken by Joe to a party in the Pall Mall area

1:03:28 > 1:03:31in a very grand room.

1:03:31 > 1:03:36Peter Willes used to like to mix his connections with aristocracy

1:03:36 > 1:03:41with the theatrical avant-garde, he quite liked that frisson.

1:03:41 > 1:03:44And Harold Pinter was very at ease there

1:03:44 > 1:03:47and Joe was rather taken with it all, too.

1:03:47 > 1:03:51Kenneth writes on the wall when Joe comes home,

1:03:51 > 1:03:54"Joe Orton is a spineless twat."

1:03:56 > 1:04:02I'm not sure how much of that sort of abuse a partner can take.

1:04:04 > 1:04:07Kenneth is suffering from tightness in the chest.

1:04:07 > 1:04:10Today's argument went on for the best part of the morning.

1:04:10 > 1:04:12He suddenly shouted,

1:04:12 > 1:04:16"I hope I die of heart disease. I'd like to see how you manage then.

1:04:16 > 1:04:20"When I'm not around, you won't be able to write in this flip way."

1:04:20 > 1:04:23The inference that I don't know how cruel and senseless life is hurt me.

1:04:25 > 1:04:29"I won't have you monopolising the agony market!" I shouted in a fury.

1:04:31 > 1:04:35I think it's bad that we live in each other's pockets 24 hours a day,

1:04:35 > 1:04:36365 days a year.

1:04:38 > 1:04:42Clearly, Kenneth had mental health problems.

1:04:42 > 1:04:46Kenneth was seeking psychiatric help.

1:04:47 > 1:04:54I believe that that's where the plot

1:04:54 > 1:04:58for What The Butler Saw came from

1:04:58 > 1:05:03because it's set in a psychiatrist's private clinic.

1:05:03 > 1:05:11He must have been retelling Joe about what was happening

1:05:11 > 1:05:13in this psychiatrist's chair.

1:05:13 > 1:05:15Madness is the order of the day.

1:05:15 > 1:05:19What The Butler Saw is his masterpiece.

1:05:19 > 1:05:20There's something healing about it.

1:05:20 > 1:05:25It's just so bold and nobody remotely came close to that

1:05:25 > 1:05:28in English or Western theatre.

1:05:28 > 1:05:30It's just... He's way out there.

1:05:30 > 1:05:33Orton makes the genre of farce,

1:05:33 > 1:05:38makes it a metaphor for a psychotic breakdown.

1:05:38 > 1:05:45The psychiatrist and the inspector of psychiatry, Dr Rance,

1:05:45 > 1:05:47are both clearly off their heads.

1:05:49 > 1:05:51Good morning, are you Dr Prentice?

1:05:51 > 1:05:53Yes, have you an appointment?

1:05:53 > 1:05:55No, I never make appointments.

1:05:55 > 1:05:58I'd like to be given details of your clinic.

1:05:58 > 1:06:02You specialise in the complete breakdown and its by-products?

1:06:02 > 1:06:04Yes, but it's highly confidential.

1:06:04 > 1:06:06My files are never open to strangers.

1:06:06 > 1:06:08You may speak freely in front of me.

1:06:08 > 1:06:10I represent Her Majesty's Government,

1:06:10 > 1:06:13your immediate superiors in madness.

1:06:13 > 1:06:16I'm from the commissioners.

1:06:16 > 1:06:18- Which branch?- The mental branch.

1:06:18 > 1:06:21Do you cover asylums proper or just houses of tentative madness?

1:06:21 > 1:06:23My brief is infinite.

1:06:23 > 1:06:25I'd have sway over a rabbit hutch

1:06:25 > 1:06:27if the inmates were mentally disturbed.

1:06:27 > 1:06:30You're obviously a force to be reckoned with.

1:06:30 > 1:06:34I hope our relationship will be a pleasant one.

1:06:34 > 1:06:36Why are there so many doors?

1:06:36 > 1:06:38Was the house designed by a lunatic?

1:06:38 > 1:06:41Yes. We have him here as a patient from time to time.

1:06:41 > 1:06:45Is your couch regulation size? It looks big enough for two.

1:06:45 > 1:06:47I do double consultations.

1:06:47 > 1:06:49Toddlers are often terrified of a doctor,

1:06:49 > 1:06:51so I've taken to examining their mothers at the same time.

1:06:51 > 1:06:54Has the theory received much publicity?

1:06:54 > 1:06:56I don't approve of scientists that publicise their theories.

1:06:56 > 1:06:58I must say I agree with you.

1:06:58 > 1:07:02I wish more scientists would keep their ideas to themselves.

1:07:02 > 1:07:05Is this something to do with you, Prentice?

1:07:05 > 1:07:07It's a prescription, sir.

1:07:07 > 1:07:10"Keep your head down and don't make a sound."

1:07:10 > 1:07:14Do you find your patients react favourably to such treatment?

1:07:14 > 1:07:16I can claim to have had some success with it.

1:07:16 > 1:07:19Your ideas are, I think, in advance of the times.

1:07:21 > 1:07:22WOMAN MOANS

1:07:24 > 1:07:26There's a naked woman behind there.

1:07:29 > 1:07:33People are being punished by the velocity of farce.

1:07:33 > 1:07:36In other words, at a certain speed, all things disintegrate.

1:07:36 > 1:07:41I think it does coincide with the fact

1:07:41 > 1:07:45that Kenneth is having psychiatric treatment.

1:07:49 > 1:07:51Went to Peter Willes' for dinner.

1:07:52 > 1:07:55When we got there, he stared at Kenneth in horror.

1:07:55 > 1:07:58"That's an old Etonian tie", he screeched.

1:07:58 > 1:07:59"Yes," said Kenneth, "it's a joke".

1:08:01 > 1:08:03Willes wrinkled up his face in an evil sort of way,

1:08:03 > 1:08:06"Well, I'm afraid it's a joke against you, then.

1:08:06 > 1:08:09"People will imagine you're passing yourself off as an old Etonian.

1:08:09 > 1:08:11"It will make them angry."

1:08:12 > 1:08:15"I don't care," Kenneth said, laughing a little too readily,

1:08:15 > 1:08:16"I want to make them angry."

1:08:17 > 1:08:20"But why?" Willes said. "People dislike you enough already.

1:08:20 > 1:08:22"I mean, it's permissible as a foible of youth,

1:08:22 > 1:08:25"but you, a middle-aged nonentity, it's sad and pathetic."

1:08:27 > 1:08:32After an uneasy silence, a sort of rapprochement was restored.

1:08:32 > 1:08:35The conversation drifted on in a desultory way

1:08:35 > 1:08:37until Kenneth exploded.

1:08:38 > 1:08:42"All you people that are mad on Joe really have no idea what he's like."

1:08:42 > 1:08:44Willes paled.

1:08:44 > 1:08:47"I'm not mad on Joe. Whatever do you mean?"

1:08:50 > 1:08:55I think he wanted Joe to himself, not necessarily sexually,

1:08:55 > 1:08:57but Joe was a great prize

1:08:57 > 1:09:03and because Joe was particularly involved in breaking the bounds

1:09:03 > 1:09:08of sexual freedom, whatever, and Peter Willes was thrilled by this.

1:09:09 > 1:09:11Took a walk.

1:09:11 > 1:09:13Nobody to pick up, only a lot of disgusting old men.

1:09:15 > 1:09:17I shall be a disgusting old man myself one day,

1:09:17 > 1:09:18I thought, mournfully.

1:09:20 > 1:09:22Only I have high hopes of dying in my prime.

1:09:29 > 1:09:36The last time I saw Joe was when he came to Leicester, August 1st.

1:09:36 > 1:09:40I pushed my new baby in a pram

1:09:40 > 1:09:44and he said, "Oh, I'll push the pram."

1:09:44 > 1:09:46And then I left to go home

1:09:46 > 1:09:53and he kissed me and he said, "Keep writing to me.

1:09:54 > 1:09:58"If you write to me, I'll always answer your letters."

1:10:00 > 1:10:03And then he was gone, and I never saw him again.

1:10:20 > 1:10:22My brother says,

1:10:22 > 1:10:24"I've got to go down and I've got to identify the body."

1:10:27 > 1:10:29And then when he came back, he said,

1:10:29 > 1:10:31"It's Ken, you know, he's done him in".

1:10:35 > 1:10:37I said, "What was the flat like?"

1:10:37 > 1:10:42He went, "Oh, it was awful," he said, "it was like somebody

1:10:42 > 1:10:46"had just thrown a tin of red paint all over the walls."

1:10:49 > 1:10:54Kenneth's just gone mad, just hit him with a hammer.

1:10:54 > 1:10:56Just kept hitting him with a hammer.

1:11:00 > 1:11:06We actually found out about the murder of Joe

1:11:06 > 1:11:08in the newspaper,

1:11:08 > 1:11:12and we had to go in and do the play that night.

1:11:12 > 1:11:15It was standing room only, it was packed.

1:11:15 > 1:11:17We were running around with the body

1:11:17 > 1:11:21and suddenly the lines all started to have different meanings.

1:11:22 > 1:11:26And you heard them for the first time, these lines of dialogue,

1:11:26 > 1:11:28which you hadn't noticed before.

1:11:28 > 1:11:33They suddenly resonated in a different way.

1:11:33 > 1:11:36And Kenneth's suicide note says,

1:11:36 > 1:11:39"If you read his diary, all will be explained."

1:11:39 > 1:11:44And then there's a PS that says, "Especially the latter part."

1:11:44 > 1:11:47And the latter part is clearly missing.

1:11:47 > 1:11:52The diary ends on August the 1st

1:11:52 > 1:11:55and Joe was killed on August the 9th.

1:11:56 > 1:12:00And also, it ends in mid-sentence.

1:12:00 > 1:12:04There was missing pages, clearly there was missing pages.

1:12:04 > 1:12:07What happened to them is a mystery.

1:12:08 > 1:12:12I spoke to Peggy very soon after she'd had to go

1:12:12 > 1:12:18and identify the bodies, or Kenneth's body.

1:12:18 > 1:12:21She said to me, "I don't want to talk about it, darling.

1:12:21 > 1:12:24"All I can tell you is that there was blood on the ceiling."

1:12:24 > 1:12:31However, she had the presence of mind to slip Joe's diaries

1:12:31 > 1:12:35into her capacious handbag, under the noses of the officials

1:12:35 > 1:12:39that had taken her to the scene of the crime.

1:12:39 > 1:12:44I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what happened to the

1:12:44 > 1:12:49missing pages - who had them? Were they destroyed by Peggy?

1:12:49 > 1:12:52But I've come to believe that it may be that the

1:12:52 > 1:12:59diaries are the things, the object themselves, that were the issue.

1:12:59 > 1:13:04Orton wrote these diaries at a desk that was unlocked.

1:13:05 > 1:13:11The diaries were there clearly for Halliwell to read.

1:13:11 > 1:13:15I think the diaries were meant, strategically,

1:13:15 > 1:13:20to help Orton leave Halliwell.

1:13:20 > 1:13:22You could say it was an act of moral cowardice.

1:13:25 > 1:13:28"Dear Peggy, the journal, this must be guarded.

1:13:28 > 1:13:30"As he was writing it, on your advice,

1:13:30 > 1:13:34"so as pray God you are literary executer, this will be protected.

1:13:34 > 1:13:35"My love, Peter."

1:13:38 > 1:13:40Certainly I think that Peter Willes

1:13:40 > 1:13:43almost single-handedly brought about the murder.

1:13:46 > 1:13:49I would nominate Peter Willes as murderer number one

1:13:49 > 1:13:54because he made no hiding of his contempt for Ken...

1:13:56 > 1:13:57..and his exclusion of Ken.

1:14:00 > 1:14:03I know that Willes, sort of, was aware...

1:14:05 > 1:14:09..that Kenneth was ill.

1:14:09 > 1:14:10Mentally ill.

1:14:10 > 1:14:15Peter Willes was attacking Halliwell

1:14:15 > 1:14:19almost on a regular basis.

1:14:19 > 1:14:25I mean, there was a real undermining of Kenneth Halliwell.

1:14:25 > 1:14:27And he referred him to his doctor,

1:14:27 > 1:14:32a psychiatrist called Dr Ismay,

1:14:32 > 1:14:37and Ismay said that he was in a psychotic state

1:14:37 > 1:14:41and he was a complete, utter mess, really.

1:14:41 > 1:14:48Ismay was more than likely relaying to Peter Willes

1:14:48 > 1:14:52what was happening with Kenneth Halliwell.

1:14:52 > 1:14:54Peter Willes, I've known him for a long time

1:14:54 > 1:14:59and anybody he sends me, I tend to bend over backwards.

1:14:59 > 1:15:01Halliwell, yes, he was unable...

1:15:01 > 1:15:03He wasn't functioning.

1:15:03 > 1:15:05He was in a deep depression,

1:15:05 > 1:15:11serious enough to consider admission to hospital, and I may have

1:15:11 > 1:15:17interpreted that way because of what Peter Willes told me.

1:15:17 > 1:15:20I think there was something Machiavellian going on

1:15:20 > 1:15:23with this doctor.

1:15:23 > 1:15:27I think Peter Willes is a nasty piece of work.

1:15:28 > 1:15:32I thought he was suicidal, but I never thought he was homicidal,

1:15:32 > 1:15:34so can you imagine the shock?

1:15:35 > 1:15:39I felt, in a sense, responsible, although I wasn't,

1:15:39 > 1:15:44but no idea that it would end in such a horrific murder.

1:15:45 > 1:15:47Gruesome.

1:15:47 > 1:15:52In the last two days of his life,

1:15:52 > 1:15:56there are a series of events...

1:15:58 > 1:16:00..affecting Halliwell.

1:16:00 > 1:16:05He was about to be sectioned the following day.

1:16:05 > 1:16:09Because when I described to the psychiatrist on the phone

1:16:09 > 1:16:13about this man, Halliwell, he thought

1:16:13 > 1:16:19he sounded seriously ill enough to warrant immediate admission.

1:16:19 > 1:16:23I spoke to Halliwell that night three times on the telephone

1:16:23 > 1:16:27to find out how he was, it might have been,

1:16:27 > 1:16:31and then setting up the arrangement and then letting him know,

1:16:31 > 1:16:35and then he phoning me back wanting to cancel it.

1:16:35 > 1:16:39Him realising that he was going

1:16:39 > 1:16:45to be separated permanently from Joe

1:16:45 > 1:16:50and that sent him...

1:16:51 > 1:16:53..just...

1:16:53 > 1:16:58It was, if you like, the straw that broke the camel's back.

1:16:58 > 1:17:03Orton was called by someone inviting him to a party,

1:17:03 > 1:17:06but it was not Orton who answered the phone,

1:17:06 > 1:17:09but Halliwell impersonating Orton.

1:17:09 > 1:17:11And the man at the other end said,

1:17:11 > 1:17:17"Whatever you do, Joe, don't bring Halliwell."

1:17:17 > 1:17:20He learned that Orton had betrayed him

1:17:20 > 1:17:26and had not invited him to this party.

1:17:26 > 1:17:32The humiliation was double that now Joe even was, on some level,

1:17:32 > 1:17:34ashamed of him.

1:17:34 > 1:17:37He was at a knife edge.

1:17:37 > 1:17:42And although he called Dr Ismay back

1:17:42 > 1:17:47and said that the pills that he'd been given were working

1:17:47 > 1:17:52and he felt calmer, perhaps in that calm state

1:17:52 > 1:17:58allowed him to, sort of, decide to murder Orton.

1:18:11 > 1:18:13Hilarium Memoriam Joe Orton,

1:18:13 > 1:18:18written and read at my funeral by Donald Pleasence, the famous actor.

1:18:20 > 1:18:24Some met together when he died, not in the name of any god,

1:18:24 > 1:18:28but in his name, whom they lost to the coffin.

1:18:28 > 1:18:30The box which brought him endless mirth.

1:18:32 > 1:18:34The lesson which he could not read again.

1:18:35 > 1:18:37Hilarity in death.