0:00:02 > 0:00:04- What's that?- What was that?
0:00:04 > 0:00:08- CRACK! - What's that?- The Dandy Thunderbang!
0:00:08 > 0:00:10- CRACK! - The Dandy Thunderbang
0:00:10 > 0:00:13is given free with The Dandy this week.
0:00:13 > 0:00:16- CRACK! - The Dandy!
0:00:16 > 0:00:21Home to some of the most vibrant and surreal characters ever created.
0:00:21 > 0:00:23- Korky the Cat.- Miaow!
0:00:24 > 0:00:26- Desperate Dan.- Hey!
0:00:27 > 0:00:28Keyhole Kate.
0:00:30 > 0:00:33It's the world's longest-running weekly comic
0:00:33 > 0:00:35and one of Scotland's proudest exports.
0:00:35 > 0:00:38And that makes it...Just Dandy!
0:00:43 > 0:00:45FAINT CHEERING
0:00:47 > 0:00:49CLATTER!
0:01:01 > 0:01:0475 years of publishing history ends
0:01:04 > 0:01:09as the last-ever issue of The Dandy rolls off the press.
0:01:09 > 0:01:13It seems that modern kids prefer the digital to The Dandy.
0:01:13 > 0:01:16But in its heyday, it sold two-million copies,
0:01:16 > 0:01:18and that was every week!
0:01:18 > 0:01:22The Dandy is a publishing phenomenon with an amazing history.
0:01:22 > 0:01:26And that history is not over yet. The Dandy is going digital.
0:01:39 > 0:01:42This is the Edinburgh Book Festival.
0:01:42 > 0:01:45There are some famous writers and a former prime minister here today,
0:01:45 > 0:01:48but I'm really here for the biffs, the bangs and banana skins
0:01:48 > 0:01:51and the launch of The Dandy's authorised biography.
0:01:54 > 0:01:57Morris Heggie, The Dandy's editor for 20 years,
0:01:57 > 0:02:01is too busy talking to fans and signing copies to speak to me now,
0:02:01 > 0:02:04so let's see who, amongst the great and the good,
0:02:04 > 0:02:06remembers the Thunderbang.
0:02:09 > 0:02:11There you go. That's him officially in the club.
0:02:11 > 0:02:14They didn't give that away with The Beano,
0:02:14 > 0:02:16or The Times Literary Supplement.
0:02:16 > 0:02:18- CRACK! - It's not very loud, though.
0:02:18 > 0:02:22- You need to try harder. - No. I blame the manufacturer.
0:02:22 > 0:02:24I'll give you a demo.
0:02:24 > 0:02:26- CRACK! - There you go.
0:02:26 > 0:02:29Remember, Gordon Brown's here today, you'll have security on top of us.
0:02:29 > 0:02:33- Right, Brian, do you remember that? - Yeah.- Have a go.
0:02:33 > 0:02:35- OK. - CRACK!
0:02:35 > 0:02:37- Oh, bingo, first time!- There you go. - Fantastic!
0:02:37 > 0:02:41- Do you remember that? - I do remember. Does it still work?
0:02:41 > 0:02:43- You'll have to find out.- Oh, blimey!
0:02:43 > 0:02:46- I remember you have to hold them slightly ajar.- Yeah.
0:02:46 > 0:02:49- CRACK! Oh!- Oh!- Hold it.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52Just get me finger in there.
0:02:52 > 0:02:55- CRACK! - There you go.- There you go!- Perfect!
0:02:55 > 0:02:57ALL: 75 years of The Dandy!
0:02:57 > 0:02:58CRACK!
0:02:58 > 0:03:00CHEERING
0:03:07 > 0:03:09Here I am in Dundee city centre.
0:03:09 > 0:03:11Now, normally in a city centre,
0:03:11 > 0:03:14you'd find a statue of a long-dead prime minister
0:03:14 > 0:03:17or, I don't know, Queen Victoria.
0:03:17 > 0:03:20But here, they've got a real hard man, a real desperado!
0:03:20 > 0:03:23HORSE WHINNIES
0:03:23 > 0:03:27I hear tell there's a new guy in town who's tougher than me.
0:03:27 > 0:03:29This, I gotta see!
0:03:29 > 0:03:31Yikes! It's me!
0:03:33 > 0:03:36Despite being a Texas cowboy from Cactusville
0:03:36 > 0:03:40and The Dandy having always had an address in London's Fleet Street,
0:03:40 > 0:03:43Desperate Dan is a true Dundonian
0:03:43 > 0:03:47and is part of what makes Dundee famous for jute, jam and journalism.
0:03:48 > 0:03:51David Coupar Thomson founded his newspaper business,
0:03:51 > 0:03:54DC Thomson, in 1905.
0:03:54 > 0:03:56The Courier was Dundee's paper,
0:03:56 > 0:04:01but the Sunday Post was read throughout Scotland and beyond.
0:04:08 > 0:04:12In the 1920s and '30s, the company releases
0:04:12 > 0:04:14a hugely-successful series of adventure comics,
0:04:14 > 0:04:18including The Hotspur, The Rover and The Wizard.
0:04:18 > 0:04:21There was no television in these days, times were hard.
0:04:21 > 0:04:22But the comic was cheap and fun
0:04:22 > 0:04:24and the public couldn't get enough of them.
0:04:24 > 0:04:28Then DC Thomson decide to release a new series.
0:04:28 > 0:04:33This time, with the focus on humour and comedy rather than adventure.
0:04:33 > 0:04:36The first of these was The Dandy! Oh-hoo-hoo!
0:04:40 > 0:04:43I think anyone of my generation was a fan of The Dandy.
0:04:43 > 0:04:46And of course, there was a whole host of other comics.
0:04:46 > 0:04:49The Hotspur, The Wizard, The Beano, The Rover and all that,
0:04:49 > 0:04:52but The Dandy, for me, was the prime one.
0:04:52 > 0:04:56It was the colour, very vibrant colours and beautiful drawings,
0:04:56 > 0:04:58but DC Thomson, the artists that DC Thomson had,
0:04:58 > 0:05:01people don't appreciate how clever those guys were,
0:05:01 > 0:05:06just as artists, you know. The standard of drawing was fantastic.
0:05:06 > 0:05:10- Do you have a favourite character? - Desperate Dan has to be the favourite character.
0:05:10 > 0:05:13Especially for a wee boy, a big tough guy, you know,
0:05:13 > 0:05:16a big sort of hard man, but a nice big guy, as well.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18The Dandy's not as old as me.
0:05:18 > 0:05:20It came out four years after,
0:05:20 > 0:05:24or three years after I was born, in '34.
0:05:24 > 0:05:28I started collecting The Dandy, and The Eagle.
0:05:28 > 0:05:33I think I had nearly 100 Dandys
0:05:33 > 0:05:38and one through about 50 Eagles under the bed,
0:05:38 > 0:05:41and my mother threw them out.
0:05:41 > 0:05:43- Oof! - I couldn't believe it.
0:05:43 > 0:05:47Doctor Chris Murray of Dundee University
0:05:47 > 0:05:49has made a special study of comics.
0:05:50 > 0:05:54I was given piles of comics at an early age by my uncle
0:05:54 > 0:05:58who used to go drinking in a pub in Hilltown in Dundee.
0:05:58 > 0:06:01And there was a guy there who used to get his comics delivered
0:06:01 > 0:06:05because he didn't want his wife to know that he read comics.
0:06:05 > 0:06:09So this guy would get his comics delivered to the pub, would sit and read them with a pint
0:06:09 > 0:06:13and when he was done, he would leave them behind the pub for my uncle to pick up
0:06:13 > 0:06:15because he knew he had a nephew who liked comics.
0:06:15 > 0:06:20Now, the Dandy hits the stands in 1937.
0:06:20 > 0:06:23What do you think the economics of the 1930s impact was
0:06:23 > 0:06:25on the success of the comic?
0:06:25 > 0:06:29Well, comics were a very cheap form of entertainment during the '30s,
0:06:29 > 0:06:32a time of economic difficulty.
0:06:32 > 0:06:34That's true in both Britain and America.
0:06:34 > 0:06:38They were also a medium that had a certain shelf-life to it.
0:06:38 > 0:06:40You go and see something at the cinema,
0:06:40 > 0:06:42it lasts an hour or two, then you're out,
0:06:42 > 0:06:45whereas if you've got comics, you can pass them around, swap them,
0:06:45 > 0:06:47trade them in the schoolyard.
0:06:47 > 0:06:50You know, they get pretty much destroyed
0:06:50 > 0:06:52through passing all those grubby hands.
0:06:54 > 0:06:57For more than seven decades, madcap characters
0:06:57 > 0:07:01and bizarre plotlines tempted kids to part with their pocket money.
0:07:03 > 0:07:08The Dandy was quite a massive part of my childhood, in fact.
0:07:08 > 0:07:10I'd say I read it for about...
0:07:10 > 0:07:13continually for about eight years or something like that,
0:07:13 > 0:07:17getting it every week, along with The Beano, like most people.
0:07:17 > 0:07:19So, who were your standout characters?
0:07:19 > 0:07:23Well, I mean, obviously Desperate Dan, who I think everybody loved.
0:07:23 > 0:07:28But there was...I really liked Big Head and Thick Head.
0:07:28 > 0:07:30You didn't really like either of them.
0:07:30 > 0:07:33One of them was the stupid kid
0:07:33 > 0:07:36and the other one was the swatty four-eyed kid.
0:07:36 > 0:07:39So I don't know how it quite worked.
0:07:39 > 0:07:43I read Of Mice And Men years later and it's a very similar setup
0:07:43 > 0:07:48in that the big oaf and the sort of smarter one.
0:07:48 > 0:07:52You got The Dandy on a Tuesday and you got The Beano on a Thursday.
0:07:52 > 0:07:55And I used to get The Beano and The Film Fun on a Thursday
0:07:55 > 0:07:59and The Dandy and one other comic, I can't remember what it was, but that was my week.
0:07:59 > 0:08:01That's what I had to look forward to.
0:08:01 > 0:08:06The terrible truth is that in common with a lot of people, I was more of a Beano boy.
0:08:06 > 0:08:09I was a Beano boy, but I got The Dandy, too.
0:08:09 > 0:08:12I got them both. We were that well off.
0:08:12 > 0:08:14Were you? Were you a bit of a swapper, though?
0:08:14 > 0:08:16I would swap, of course, yeah.
0:08:16 > 0:08:18No, I never swapped with anybody. I'm very mean that way.
0:08:18 > 0:08:22You swapped, but you always got the bad end of the deal, I always found,
0:08:22 > 0:08:24so I never swapped.
0:08:24 > 0:08:29# The Fire exit door has never agreed with me... #
0:08:30 > 0:08:34Kyle Falconer, he's the singer with Dundee band, The View.
0:08:36 > 0:08:39I mean, I got that much, I had to start splattering them to my doors.
0:08:39 > 0:08:43You started pasting them to doors so you could read them when you went to sleep.
0:08:43 > 0:08:47I tried to get the whole house, but Mum would only let us do the doors in my room.
0:08:47 > 0:08:50When you were reading The Dandy, did you know it was from Dundee?
0:08:50 > 0:08:53Not really when I was dead young,
0:08:53 > 0:08:55but once I'd, when I got to about 12,
0:08:55 > 0:08:57I started to realise where DC Thomson's was and stuff
0:08:57 > 0:09:01and you started going into the newspapers and you heard a lot about it
0:09:01 > 0:09:04through going on school trips and that.
0:09:04 > 0:09:08When we started going to London, that was the first thing they'd say, "Where's Dundee?"
0:09:08 > 0:09:11and you'd go, "The Dandy, The Beano," and they'd go like "Ah, right."
0:09:11 > 0:09:13So that was like our claim to fame.
0:09:15 > 0:09:18Despite having always had a swanky Fleet Street address,
0:09:18 > 0:09:21The Dandy has always been produced here in Dundee.
0:09:23 > 0:09:28It was all done in Dundee and to be honest, I was surprised.
0:09:28 > 0:09:32I can remember what I wrote when I was looking for a job, I wrote,
0:09:32 > 0:09:34"Dear sir, I'm interested in a career in journalism."
0:09:34 > 0:09:39A couple of months later, after several interviews, on my first day, they said,
0:09:39 > 0:09:42"We're going to introduce you to this man, Mr Barnes.
0:09:42 > 0:09:44"He's the editor of The Dandy."
0:09:44 > 0:09:47I thought, "Is that journalism? Is that really done here?"
0:09:47 > 0:09:51But it was all done in Dundee. And hardly anybody knew that.
0:09:51 > 0:09:52I was not aware of that at all.
0:09:52 > 0:09:56I mean, it really was such a shock to me when I found...
0:09:56 > 0:09:58I mean, I didn't even know The Broons were from Dundee!
0:09:58 > 0:10:01- THEY LAUGH - Or the Sunday Post.
0:10:01 > 0:10:05I mean, I think we east-coasters are, you know, certainly,
0:10:05 > 0:10:07we were always, certainly, kind of...
0:10:07 > 0:10:11I think we grew up with this inferiority complex
0:10:11 > 0:10:12that we thought everything was,
0:10:12 > 0:10:15if it was at all Scottish, it was Glasgow,
0:10:15 > 0:10:18or the west of Scotland. It wasn't the east of Scotland at all.
0:10:18 > 0:10:21But actually, of course, it was quite the reverse.
0:10:24 > 0:10:29I did a gig in Dundee and I went along to DC Thomson.
0:10:29 > 0:10:33I went into the Dandy office and if you looked down from the window,
0:10:33 > 0:10:36you could see the school gates
0:10:36 > 0:10:40where The Bash Street Kids was based and all that stuff.
0:10:40 > 0:10:43When I went there, I thought it would be really disappointing.
0:10:43 > 0:10:47It'll be businessmen and there'll be no sense of the comic at all.
0:10:47 > 0:10:51But there was just piles of original comic art,
0:10:51 > 0:10:55drawings of Korky the Cat and stuff all over the place.
0:10:55 > 0:10:58Oh, man, it was a childhood dream come true.
0:10:58 > 0:11:01It was amazing to be in there.
0:11:01 > 0:11:04And I think they all had a sense that they were part of something special.
0:11:04 > 0:11:08Here's the number one. This is what you got in 1937 for two old pennies.
0:11:08 > 0:11:1128 pages. Korky the Cat on the front cover.
0:11:11 > 0:11:15Korky the Cat when he was a proper cat, a little pussycat.
0:11:15 > 0:11:19This is the first time that you used speech bubbles.
0:11:19 > 0:11:21Aye. The Dandy used speech bubbles
0:11:21 > 0:11:24more than any other comic had done before.
0:11:24 > 0:11:26I'm sure the thing was that this was coming from...
0:11:26 > 0:11:30It wasn't other comics they were competing with, it was the talkies.
0:11:30 > 0:11:34It was the matinee cartoon strips. Steamboat Willie and...
0:11:34 > 0:11:36- You never think of that.- Yeah.
0:11:38 > 0:11:41And it was very, you know, when you think back,
0:11:41 > 0:11:43this was a really modern-looking comic.
0:11:43 > 0:11:46And you were getting this through the door every week.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50For kids, there wasn't much else, especially if you were in an area
0:11:50 > 0:11:52you couldn't get to the Saturday matinee in the cinema.
0:11:52 > 0:11:55The comics were the big thing. There was a real lot of reading.
0:11:55 > 0:11:58This first Dandy, you'd take a long time to go through it.
0:11:58 > 0:12:00You'd maybe go through it quickly, read all the cartoons,
0:12:00 > 0:12:03then you'd come back and read these text stories.
0:12:03 > 0:12:05It was a lot of entertainment.
0:12:05 > 0:12:11For most of The Dandy's life, it was edited by one man, Albert Barnes.
0:12:12 > 0:12:16Albert Barnes was The Dandy, essentially, for many years.
0:12:17 > 0:12:21And it was very much his comic and everybody knew it.
0:12:21 > 0:12:23He came on board in 1937
0:12:23 > 0:12:26and started this very innovative comic
0:12:26 > 0:12:30and was still going strong into the '80s.
0:12:30 > 0:12:33So it was very much associated with his humour,
0:12:33 > 0:12:36which I think was a bit tougher than The Beano.
0:12:36 > 0:12:40And there was a little bit more slapstick,
0:12:40 > 0:12:43a little bit more slap than stick, really.
0:12:43 > 0:12:46It was very much a rambunctious kind of humour.
0:12:46 > 0:12:50Even though as an individual, I'm told he was a very stern man,
0:12:50 > 0:12:52he had a kind of militaristic bearing,
0:12:52 > 0:12:56but he wasn't beyond a prank or two.
0:12:56 > 0:12:59Of an evening, he would go down to his greenhouse
0:12:59 > 0:13:02at the bottom of the garden and you wouldn't see him for hours.
0:13:02 > 0:13:06And he would be thinking about storylines, characters,
0:13:06 > 0:13:09serials, annuals.
0:13:09 > 0:13:13And then he would come back in and he would have a pad of shiny paper
0:13:13 > 0:13:17and he would scribble away on it with a red pen for hours on end.
0:13:17 > 0:13:21And my mother would say to me, "Keep quiet, your father's working."
0:13:21 > 0:13:24I could see fine he'd gone to sleep.
0:13:24 > 0:13:25THEY LAUGH
0:13:27 > 0:13:31The humour under Albert Barnes was moralistic in as much as bullies never prosper,
0:13:31 > 0:13:34but the big laugh for Albert was somebody got a punch in the puss
0:13:34 > 0:13:38and somebody paid for it. That was how it worked.
0:13:38 > 0:13:40It was a rougher humour than The Beano used.
0:13:40 > 0:13:44He liked elaborate pranks and Korky the Cat would set up a prank
0:13:44 > 0:13:48that would be the punch line that would work. He was keen on that.
0:13:48 > 0:13:53He read every script. Albert's humour was right through The Dandy.
0:13:53 > 0:13:55But it was rough.
0:13:55 > 0:13:59A lot of Dandy stories ended with a sharp, pointy stick in the rear.
0:13:59 > 0:14:02That was a tough life in The Dandy.
0:14:04 > 0:14:08Albert Barnes worked closely with legendary artist Dudley D Watkins,
0:14:08 > 0:14:13creator of The Broons and Oor Wullie.
0:14:15 > 0:14:17Together, they created Desperate Dan,
0:14:17 > 0:14:20introduced on page two of the first ever Dandy.
0:14:20 > 0:14:24Dan is a desperado, living in the Wild West town of Cactusville.
0:14:29 > 0:14:33Albert Barnes was a very imposing figure
0:14:33 > 0:14:35and he had a very imposing jaw.
0:14:35 > 0:14:38And Dudley D Watkins incorporated that
0:14:38 > 0:14:40into the design of Desperate Dan.
0:14:40 > 0:14:46And even though Albert Barnes wasn't really a man to emote too much,
0:14:46 > 0:14:49I think he was secretly chuffed
0:14:49 > 0:14:52to have this character based on him in that way.
0:14:53 > 0:14:58So I got Watty to draw pictures of a cowboy with a big chin.
0:14:58 > 0:15:03And with a pencil, I squared off the chin and told Watty,
0:15:03 > 0:15:07"I want a face with a chin like a chest of drawers."
0:15:13 > 0:15:15I need to ask you, where exactly is Cactusville?
0:15:15 > 0:15:17Cactusville's in Texas,
0:15:17 > 0:15:20- but as you know when you look at the pictures...- There's tenements.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23There's tenements, there's London buses,
0:15:23 > 0:15:25there's Glasgow taxis, there's pillar boxes.
0:15:25 > 0:15:28There's parts of Cactusville in any working city.
0:15:28 > 0:15:30Cactusville's a weird place.
0:15:30 > 0:15:34It looks increasingly weird to us
0:15:34 > 0:15:39because, of course, it's this amalgamation of a Western town
0:15:39 > 0:15:42with a kind of Scottish town or village.
0:15:42 > 0:15:46It doesn't really make any sense. No place like that has ever existed,
0:15:46 > 0:15:49but it makes sense in Dan's world,
0:15:49 > 0:15:52where he can juggle buses.
0:15:52 > 0:15:54It one strip, he pulls the moon down,
0:15:54 > 0:15:57he lassoes the moon and pulls it down with a rope.
0:15:57 > 0:16:00There's no real narrative logic in Desperate Dan.
0:16:00 > 0:16:04It's pretty much whatever Albert Barnes could come up with
0:16:04 > 0:16:07and whatever Dudley D Watkins could conjure up on the page,
0:16:07 > 0:16:09which is pretty much anything.
0:16:13 > 0:16:15These completely bonkers cartoons
0:16:15 > 0:16:20are the work of one of Albert Barnes's discoveries, artist Tom Paterson.
0:16:22 > 0:16:26I had no idea that I would get into that, be a cartoonist,
0:16:26 > 0:16:30until maybe the fifth or sixth year. I was going to go to art college.
0:16:30 > 0:16:36And I ended up sending up some work away to DC Thomson.
0:16:36 > 0:16:40It was a character I'd come up with. It looks terrible now. I've still got it.
0:16:40 > 0:16:43It was a wee boy detective called Tiny Tech,
0:16:43 > 0:16:46and it looks absolutely terrible.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49But it was passed on to Albert Barnes.
0:16:49 > 0:16:52And the next thing, I got a phone call and a letter
0:16:52 > 0:16:55asking if he could come down and visit me.
0:16:55 > 0:16:58So one day, down the great man comes,
0:16:58 > 0:17:00a very imposing figure.
0:17:00 > 0:17:03For Albert Barnes to get in the car to drive to Edinburgh
0:17:03 > 0:17:04to meet this schoolboy protege,
0:17:04 > 0:17:08that was the one and only time I would say he ever did that.
0:17:08 > 0:17:11Paterson, fabulous artist, as he is today,
0:17:11 > 0:17:15but as a 16 year old, was just a...
0:17:15 > 0:17:18This was the George Best of the art world.
0:17:18 > 0:17:22It was just fantastic. And Albert wanted, at that time...
0:17:22 > 0:17:25I mean, Albert just never left his office, never mind left Dundee.
0:17:25 > 0:17:28So that was very rare.
0:17:28 > 0:17:30And that just shows you what he thought of him.
0:17:30 > 0:17:32I remember him coming to my mum's house.
0:17:32 > 0:17:34We lived in a wee council house, two up, two down.
0:17:34 > 0:17:40My mum was in a panic trying to find cups that matched, nae cracks in the cups and stuff.
0:17:40 > 0:17:45But he came down and he wanted me to do this script he had written.
0:17:45 > 0:17:49I think he had written himself, called Dangerous Dumplings.
0:17:49 > 0:17:51And that's how it started, basically,
0:17:51 > 0:17:54and that led to two or three months back and forward,
0:17:54 > 0:17:57me trying to get the characters how he wanted them.
0:17:57 > 0:17:59And what's the characters up to?
0:17:59 > 0:18:02They were like a dangerous family at the time. Disreputable.
0:18:02 > 0:18:03They'd be called chavs now.
0:18:06 > 0:18:08I wanted to ask you about the Dangerous Dumplings.
0:18:08 > 0:18:12- They've all got the big chins, like you said, after the man Barnes.- Yes.
0:18:12 > 0:18:16The mother's got a big chin, as well as the father. What happened there?
0:18:16 > 0:18:18That always slightly concerned me.
0:18:18 > 0:18:20He was insisting the mother had the big chin, as well?
0:18:20 > 0:18:24Albert seemed to have this fixation on the characters having the big lantern jaw.
0:18:24 > 0:18:28And when we eventually got the dad and the two kids looking like that,
0:18:28 > 0:18:30I had the mother looking a bit different,
0:18:30 > 0:18:34but Albert decided that the whole family should look the same,
0:18:34 > 0:18:37which always struck me as a wee bit strange.
0:18:42 > 0:18:47Six months after The Dandy came out, The Beano was launched in July 1938.
0:18:47 > 0:18:51The publisher had planned to bring out another four comic magazines
0:18:51 > 0:18:53to make the total up to six,
0:18:53 > 0:18:57but that was wrecked by that notorious killjoy, Adolf Hitler.
0:18:57 > 0:18:59Now, due to the paper shortages during the war,
0:18:59 > 0:19:03The Dandy could only be published then once a fortnight,
0:19:03 > 0:19:05and that alternated with The Beano.
0:19:06 > 0:19:09The number of copies printed was severely restricted,
0:19:09 > 0:19:15so precious copies were sold, borrowed, swapped or pinched.
0:19:16 > 0:19:19It was quite significant for me during the war years
0:19:19 > 0:19:22because I'm old enough to have been evacuated during the war.
0:19:22 > 0:19:25And we were evacuated to a place called Ardfern
0:19:25 > 0:19:26in Loch Craignish in Argyll.
0:19:26 > 0:19:29There was myself and my two wee brothers Norman and Iain.
0:19:29 > 0:19:33There was only a year between us. We were very close in age.
0:19:33 > 0:19:36It was a very isolated highland village,
0:19:36 > 0:19:40but once a week, and it may have been once a fortnight,
0:19:40 > 0:19:45a wee van came around and it stopped at all the farms, all the wee houses
0:19:45 > 0:19:47and it used to stop outside Barbreck House.
0:19:47 > 0:19:50And myself and Iain and Norman, the three wee boys,
0:19:50 > 0:19:52used to rush out to the van.
0:19:52 > 0:19:55You got your sweeties, you got wee toys
0:19:55 > 0:19:57and you always got the comics.
0:19:57 > 0:20:00And The Dandy was always the main comic.
0:20:00 > 0:20:04And it was really, really exciting because it was a special event.
0:20:04 > 0:20:07It wasn't like if you lived in town, you'd go to the shop and buy it.
0:20:07 > 0:20:10You were fascinated by the brightness and the colour
0:20:10 > 0:20:12and the sheer sort of joy of the thing, you know.
0:20:12 > 0:20:17During the war, Dandy editor Albert Barnes became a naval officer.
0:20:17 > 0:20:22And many more of DC Thomson's staff and freelancers joined up, too.
0:20:22 > 0:20:24But for those that couldn't,
0:20:24 > 0:20:26they wanted to do their bit to keep the morale up.
0:20:26 > 0:20:29What did they do? I'll tell you what they did.
0:20:29 > 0:20:32They sent Desperate Dan to fight the Nazis! Yes!
0:20:32 > 0:20:36Gosh! I was about to be attacked by Nazis!
0:20:36 > 0:20:40But I've blown them out of the sky! Ha-ha!
0:20:40 > 0:20:46Ach! Dan has made der shipwreck of mine pootiful plane!
0:20:48 > 0:20:51Thing is, Desperate Dan was an American from Cactusville.
0:20:51 > 0:20:54That makes him the first American to get involved in WWII.
0:20:54 > 0:20:57It's not everybody that knows that, you know.
0:21:00 > 0:21:02In this front page from 1940,
0:21:02 > 0:21:06Korky the Cat repels an invasion of Nazi mouse paratroopers.
0:21:11 > 0:21:14Hitler and Hermann Goering, the head of the Luftwaffe,
0:21:14 > 0:21:18came in for special attention, lampooned as Addie and Hermy,
0:21:18 > 0:21:20bumbling idiots always trying to steal food.
0:21:24 > 0:21:29Pretend we are der cripples and we'll soon get der free food, too.
0:21:31 > 0:21:33Look! They are der frauds.
0:21:33 > 0:21:36They are not der cripples, but they soon will be!
0:21:37 > 0:21:42Dandy cartoonist Eric Robbie Roberts joined up to become a cartoonist.
0:21:44 > 0:21:50He was in the RAF. He did a lot of the posters for the servicemen,
0:21:50 > 0:21:54that gave instructions of what they should and shouldn't do.
0:21:54 > 0:21:56And it was so unusual
0:21:56 > 0:22:01because it was done in a comic way, with the characters.
0:22:01 > 0:22:06And it meant that visually, people remembered them
0:22:06 > 0:22:08and remembered the message that they portrayed.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12In 1945, the war ended.
0:22:13 > 0:22:16Demobbed servicemen, long parted from wives and sweethearts,
0:22:16 > 0:22:19returned home and got to work creating a baby boom.
0:22:23 > 0:22:25Among them was Albert Barnes.
0:22:27 > 0:22:30He'd risen from naval rating to lieutenant commander.
0:22:30 > 0:22:34But now returned to pilot The Dandy though its golden years.
0:22:37 > 0:22:41These pages are the 1950 Dandy sales ledger.
0:22:41 > 0:22:45And down this column, here's your British sale.
0:22:45 > 0:22:48Starts in January. 1.92 million.
0:22:48 > 0:22:52- A week?- A week. Ends the year on 1.97 million.
0:22:52 > 0:22:56And there are a few, quite a few weeks over two million.
0:22:56 > 0:22:59The week the top-selling Dandy came out,
0:22:59 > 0:23:02the market had become even more crowded,
0:23:02 > 0:23:04with the issue of the first-ever Eagle.
0:23:06 > 0:23:08The Eagle first published in 1950.
0:23:08 > 0:23:10It had Christian values.
0:23:10 > 0:23:13But The Dandy stuck to its subversive naughtiness.
0:23:14 > 0:23:17The Eagle was educational, but The Dandy was funny.
0:23:17 > 0:23:22Parents loved The Eagle, but kids? They loved The Dandy!
0:23:23 > 0:23:25I used to get the Eagle second-hand.
0:23:25 > 0:23:27I don't know if it was more expensive,
0:23:27 > 0:23:32but there used to be a store on Cape Hill Market in Smethwick
0:23:32 > 0:23:34and they used to sell comics second-hand.
0:23:34 > 0:23:37So I'd go and buy, like, 20 Eagles
0:23:37 > 0:23:40or 20 Look and Learns, or something like that.
0:23:40 > 0:23:42But I think even at the time,
0:23:42 > 0:23:46I didn't have a sense of working class, middle class,
0:23:46 > 0:23:52but there was something slightly alienating about some of the stuff.
0:23:52 > 0:23:54They had a thing in The Eagle
0:23:54 > 0:23:57where you could convert your loft into a playroom
0:23:57 > 0:23:59or something like that. Didn't happen in our house.
0:23:59 > 0:24:04I don't think the council would have liked it very much, for a start off!
0:24:04 > 0:24:06When I was at school in the '50s,
0:24:06 > 0:24:08you had your Dandy and Beano confiscated
0:24:08 > 0:24:12because it was riotous, rough humour.
0:24:12 > 0:24:16I don't remember any of my friends getting their Eagle confiscated.
0:24:16 > 0:24:19But for many people, The Dandy was an education.
0:24:21 > 0:24:23When I first started reading The Dandy,
0:24:23 > 0:24:26I hadn't started school, so I couldn't read.
0:24:26 > 0:24:30So for the first, I would say, two years of my Dandy reading,
0:24:30 > 0:24:32I just looked at the pictures and guessed.
0:24:32 > 0:24:35And it was a very interesting process.
0:24:35 > 0:24:38I can remember this feeling of learning to read
0:24:38 > 0:24:42and the characters suddenly,
0:24:42 > 0:24:45slowly at first, starting to speak.
0:24:45 > 0:24:47I can still remember picking out the odd word
0:24:47 > 0:24:52and eventually being fluent in comic speak.
0:24:52 > 0:24:55We didn't have many books. We had a local library, but no bookshops.
0:24:55 > 0:24:59Comics is what I grew up with. Comics is how I got into literature, how I got into writing.
0:24:59 > 0:25:02I used to get wee bits of paper, fold them in half and make comics.
0:25:02 > 0:25:04- Brilliant! - And put free gifts on the front.
0:25:04 > 0:25:07When I was younger, I was mainly into comics.
0:25:07 > 0:25:10So it was The Beano, The Dandy, The Broons, Oor Wullie
0:25:10 > 0:25:12and then it was the Marvel superhero comics,
0:25:12 > 0:25:16a wee bit later on, which were just a bit darker and a bit edgier.
0:25:16 > 0:25:19But I think comics are a good way for kids to get into books.
0:25:19 > 0:25:22Because you're still consuming the words,
0:25:22 > 0:25:24but if you're not a really confident reader,
0:25:24 > 0:25:27it brings you in a bit more gently.
0:25:27 > 0:25:29And then eventually, you progress onto novels.
0:25:32 > 0:25:36The Dandy always kept an eye on what its rival, the cinema, was doing.
0:25:37 > 0:25:42When MGM released the hugely popular Lassie Come Home in 1943,
0:25:42 > 0:25:46DC Thomson saw not just a threat, but an opportunity.
0:25:49 > 0:25:52Black Bob was first published in 1944,
0:25:52 > 0:25:55which makes him nearly 500 years old in dog years.
0:25:57 > 0:26:00So I'd get The Dandy, I'd read it through very feverishly,
0:26:00 > 0:26:02except Black Bob.
0:26:02 > 0:26:07And then I'd read it through again a bit more slowly, except Black Bob.
0:26:07 > 0:26:11And then I was done with it, then, it was cast aside.
0:26:11 > 0:26:13What was the problem with Black Bob?
0:26:13 > 0:26:17Black Bob was a mysterious world to me.
0:26:17 > 0:26:20And I don't think I've ever read a Black Bob.
0:26:20 > 0:26:23If you consider how many Dandys I bought over a period of eight years,
0:26:23 > 0:26:25that's something to say.
0:26:25 > 0:26:29It didn't have any speech bubbles, which I found quite alienating.
0:26:29 > 0:26:31The speech bubbles would have been, "Woof!"
0:26:31 > 0:26:33Well, I suppose that's the problem.
0:26:33 > 0:26:37If your main character is a dog, you don't need speech bubbles.
0:26:37 > 0:26:41But then that was another thing with Black Bob, he didn't join in.
0:26:41 > 0:26:44Korky the Cat was a cat, but he had a house.
0:26:45 > 0:26:48Whereas Black Bob was a dog and he lived like a dog.
0:26:48 > 0:26:52And that wasn't joining in with the whole comic thing.
0:26:52 > 0:26:55The quality of the drawing was so different.
0:26:55 > 0:27:00It was realism, it was movie, like a black-and-white movie. I loved it.
0:27:00 > 0:27:04We used to go to a farm when I was a kid, out near Condoratt,
0:27:04 > 0:27:08and they had a dog called Beth who was the embodiment of Black Bob.
0:27:08 > 0:27:13So I'll never be sure where Beth ended and Black Bob began.
0:27:13 > 0:27:14The two creatures were as one.
0:27:17 > 0:27:20In one of DC Thomson's most surreal publications,
0:27:20 > 0:27:23Black Bob actually teamed up with Dennis the Menace's dog,
0:27:23 > 0:27:25Gnasher, from The Beano.
0:27:27 > 0:27:30The Dandy of the '50s also featured adventure tales.
0:27:30 > 0:27:33Artist Paddy Brennan was given space
0:27:33 > 0:27:35for large and dramatic fight scenes
0:27:35 > 0:27:39to illustrate text stories like Crackaway Jack and Turtle Boy.
0:27:44 > 0:27:47But text was giving way to all-picture stories.
0:27:47 > 0:27:51Tin Lizzie, the mechanical maid, was created as a text story in 1953,
0:27:51 > 0:27:55but became a comic strip just two years later.
0:28:01 > 0:28:03The times, they were a-changing.
0:28:03 > 0:28:05Between the mid '50s and the mid '60s,
0:28:05 > 0:28:08the number of homes with TV trebled.
0:28:08 > 0:28:11Comics like The Dandy had an exciting new rival.
0:28:16 > 0:28:18The Dandy fought back with new characters,
0:28:18 > 0:28:22like rebellious schoolboy Winker Watson and Corporal Clott,
0:28:22 > 0:28:24the Gary: Tank Commander of its day.
0:28:28 > 0:28:31Corporal Clott, I really liked.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33Corporal Clott, I think, was the only strip
0:28:33 > 0:28:37where I was sort of aware of the artwork,
0:28:37 > 0:28:41in that it seemed a lot starker than all the other strips in there.
0:28:41 > 0:28:43There was almost no background.
0:28:43 > 0:28:47It was like a Samuel Beckett play, Corporal Clott.
0:28:47 > 0:28:49There's two main characters,
0:28:49 > 0:28:53with usually terrible things happening to the authority figure.
0:28:56 > 0:28:59Right, Rosemary. Who was your dad?
0:28:59 > 0:29:01Huh! He was David Law.
0:29:01 > 0:29:04He was an artist for DC Thomson's.
0:29:04 > 0:29:06And what characters did he draw?
0:29:06 > 0:29:08His most famous was Dennis the Menace.
0:29:08 > 0:29:11It seemed to catch on very well.
0:29:11 > 0:29:13And then Beryl the Peril.
0:29:13 > 0:29:17Corporal Clott was his favourite, his personal favourite,
0:29:17 > 0:29:21because I think he remembered things from the war.
0:29:21 > 0:29:23So he got a bit of inspiration closer to home, didn't he?
0:29:23 > 0:29:27Very much so, yes. Sometimes when we were playing with our cousins,
0:29:27 > 0:29:29you would find Dad in the corner.
0:29:29 > 0:29:32Somebody must have done an expression he'd want to remember
0:29:32 > 0:29:37and transfer it into the characters that he was drawing.
0:29:37 > 0:29:41You were always finding bits of paper about the house of yourself.
0:29:41 > 0:29:43Of course, it horrified you that you thought,
0:29:43 > 0:29:46"That's what I look like when I'm crying
0:29:46 > 0:29:49"or throwing myself about on the floor
0:29:49 > 0:29:53"because I'm not getting to wear tights or something like that."
0:29:53 > 0:29:55You think Beryl did look a bit like you?
0:29:55 > 0:29:58Facially, yes. But her hair, very dark, like Dennis,
0:29:58 > 0:30:02and pigtails was, I think, based on my cousin Pamela.
0:30:02 > 0:30:06She had very dark hair and pigtails.
0:30:06 > 0:30:08What did you think about Beryl as a role model?
0:30:08 > 0:30:12Well, at the time, I thought she was extremely naughty.
0:30:12 > 0:30:16I thought, actually, she was Dennis' little sister, as a child,
0:30:16 > 0:30:20but I think, looking back, that she was the first women's libber,
0:30:20 > 0:30:23before Germaine Greer or anybody else like that.
0:30:23 > 0:30:27She made girls look at themselves and think,
0:30:27 > 0:30:30"Oh, we're as good as the boys, we can do that."
0:30:32 > 0:30:35Bully Beef and Chips featured a violent,
0:30:35 > 0:30:37but fortunately very thick bully
0:30:37 > 0:30:41and his intended, but much smarter victim, Chips.
0:30:45 > 0:30:47I feel like bashing someone!
0:30:47 > 0:30:51Ah! There's that little shrimp, Chips! He'll do!
0:30:51 > 0:30:54I'm going to give you a thumping, you little bookworm!
0:30:54 > 0:30:57Oh! Bully Beef has got me!
0:31:01 > 0:31:04Holidays became more affordable in the prosperous '60s
0:31:04 > 0:31:07and The Dandy began publishing large-format summer specials.
0:31:07 > 0:31:11In these days, it was still OK for Korky to be a smoker.
0:31:14 > 0:31:17The '60s ended sadly for DC Thomson's.
0:31:17 > 0:31:20Dudley D Watkins, creator of its greatest cartoon characters,
0:31:20 > 0:31:22died at his drawing board in August of '69.
0:31:25 > 0:31:28This is the last Desperate Dan he drew.
0:31:28 > 0:31:32Shocked and saddened, Albert Barnes refused to let other artists draw Dan,
0:31:32 > 0:31:37and for the next 14 years, only reprinted Watkins' classic creations.
0:31:41 > 0:31:44Kids still bought The Dandy, or at least had a sneaky peek.
0:31:47 > 0:31:50I did have to go down to the corner shop, which was owned by my parents.
0:31:50 > 0:31:53- I was literally a kid in a sweet shop growing up.- Fantastic!
0:31:53 > 0:31:56We had, being Asian, it was part of the contract.
0:31:56 > 0:31:58We had a newsagents for a bit.
0:31:58 > 0:32:00So between the years of '78 and '82,
0:32:00 > 0:32:03my formative comic years, between 8 and 12,
0:32:03 > 0:32:05I was going down after school for two hours
0:32:05 > 0:32:08and helping out my mum in the shop.
0:32:08 > 0:32:13So this is a slight confession, but I used to rifle the comics
0:32:13 > 0:32:15that were on order, that people used to come in for.
0:32:15 > 0:32:17You're telling me you looked through these comics
0:32:17 > 0:32:21and took that lovely painty, inky smell out of the comics
0:32:21 > 0:32:25that was meant for the kids coming in with their 30p to buy it?
0:32:25 > 0:32:29I maybe released about 10 percent of it. I mean, I was quite careful.
0:32:29 > 0:32:32They were saying, "This joke should be funnier. Somebody read this."
0:32:32 > 0:32:35Is that how it works? Taking pictures of jokes?
0:32:35 > 0:32:39If there is anyone in the Battlefield area of Glasgow now,
0:32:39 > 0:32:41ages with me, sort of early 40s,
0:32:41 > 0:32:44if they felt that their Dandy had been fingered,
0:32:44 > 0:32:48it would have been me, and I can't apologise enough.
0:32:48 > 0:32:51If it's any consolation, it probably formed my comedy career
0:32:51 > 0:32:53and, you know, I'm very popular.
0:32:53 > 0:32:57So I think I've fed back, I think I've paid my dues to society.
0:32:57 > 0:32:58No, we forgive you.
0:32:59 > 0:33:01The Dandy captured the minds of children,
0:33:01 > 0:33:05and some people believe it influenced them for life.
0:33:05 > 0:33:08I would be surprised if there's anyone my age
0:33:08 > 0:33:12who hasn't been influenced by The Dandy. The Dandy and The Beano.
0:33:12 > 0:33:15It's very hard to measure the influence,
0:33:15 > 0:33:18but I think it absolutely is pervasive.
0:33:18 > 0:33:21Recognise these guys?
0:33:21 > 0:33:25They're the creations of four-time Oscar winner, Nick Park.
0:33:25 > 0:33:27What do you think influenced this?
0:33:27 > 0:33:31I think the people here at Aardman, we're all of the same mind, really.
0:33:31 > 0:33:35We were all...When I started at Aardman, we were,
0:33:35 > 0:33:37we all just talked about The Dandy and The Beano
0:33:37 > 0:33:41and it's that connection with childhood which is so important.
0:33:41 > 0:33:43The things that influenced you.
0:33:43 > 0:33:46And definitely, a good diet of The Beano and The Dandy
0:33:46 > 0:33:48helped us all in some way.
0:33:48 > 0:33:51I was actually more a fan of The Beano.
0:33:51 > 0:33:53And, you know, in those days,
0:33:53 > 0:33:57the comic you got every week was your identity as a kid.
0:33:57 > 0:34:01And I really associated... I really identified with the Beano,
0:34:01 > 0:34:03but my brother got The Dandy every week
0:34:03 > 0:34:06and you'd trade comics, as well, after you'd read them.
0:34:06 > 0:34:10So I always got to read The Dandy every week, as well.
0:34:10 > 0:34:11So I loved that, as well.
0:34:11 > 0:34:14I loved Korky the Cat.
0:34:14 > 0:34:17And Desperate Dan, of course, is the obvious one.
0:34:17 > 0:34:18- Did you start drawing then?- Yeah.
0:34:18 > 0:34:22I read The Dandy and The Beano all the time,
0:34:22 > 0:34:24so my ambition as a kid was...
0:34:24 > 0:34:27I discovered drawing was the only thing I was ever good at.
0:34:27 > 0:34:30And because I used to live in The Beano,
0:34:30 > 0:34:32I used to read it all the time,
0:34:32 > 0:34:35my big ambition as a kid
0:34:35 > 0:34:39was to draw for The Dandy or The Beano.
0:34:39 > 0:34:41So you wanted to be an artist for that?
0:34:41 > 0:34:43Yeah. That was what I wanted to be.
0:34:43 > 0:34:45And it all went pear-shaped for you(!)
0:34:45 > 0:34:47- Yeah! - THEY LAUGH
0:34:47 > 0:34:49My ambitions dashed.
0:34:49 > 0:34:52Right, before we go, we want to ask you, do you remember that?
0:34:52 > 0:34:55- Good grief, yeah. - Do you remember how to work it?
0:34:55 > 0:34:57I do, yeah.
0:34:57 > 0:34:59CRACK!
0:34:59 > 0:35:02Ooo! Not bad. Give it a bigger one.
0:35:02 > 0:35:05- I do remember, because I never got mine.- Did you not?
0:35:05 > 0:35:10I remember the actual comic this came from, the actual week.
0:35:10 > 0:35:12- Go on. - CRACK!
0:35:12 > 0:35:16We used to often get free gifts and the paperboy would nick them.
0:35:16 > 0:35:18- Yeah.- So I never got mine.
0:35:25 > 0:35:29- Were you a Dandy fan when you were a kid?- I was comic mad.
0:35:29 > 0:35:32I didnae do the war ones, I didnae do Hotspur,
0:35:32 > 0:35:35but definitely Dandy, Beano,
0:35:35 > 0:35:37Oor Wullie, Broons,
0:35:37 > 0:35:38Beezer, Topper.
0:35:38 > 0:35:42You're from Govan originally, but you're a local man now.
0:35:42 > 0:35:44I've been here for 20-odd years.
0:35:44 > 0:35:46What's the feedback you get about your work?
0:35:46 > 0:35:49I try to stay away from it. I mean, people love it.
0:35:49 > 0:35:52The artistic community, no, they don't see it as art,
0:35:52 > 0:35:55- but the people...it was made for people.- Sure.
0:35:55 > 0:36:01If you make a public sculpture, if the public part isnae there,
0:36:01 > 0:36:04if they're not connecting with that, you're in trouble, I think.
0:36:04 > 0:36:08It's continually surrounded by people.
0:36:16 > 0:36:18What height do you reckon Desperate Dan is?
0:36:18 > 0:36:21Looking at this, he's about 7ft 1. What do you think?
0:36:21 > 0:36:24Yeah. That's fairly normal for Dundee.
0:36:24 > 0:36:25Yes, it is, that's right.
0:36:25 > 0:36:29Nigel Parkinson is working on The Dandy's last print issue.
0:36:29 > 0:36:34When I was a kid, I read almost every comic I could get my hands on.
0:36:34 > 0:36:38I was a bit obsessed with comics, to be honest. I read them all.
0:36:38 > 0:36:41Beano, Dandy, Wham, everything.
0:36:42 > 0:36:47- When did you start drawing? - I was about three years old...
0:36:47 > 0:36:51No, two years old, when I started drawing.
0:36:51 > 0:36:54And I haven't stopped yet. So that's about 20 years now, isn't it?
0:36:54 > 0:36:56Mm-hm.
0:36:58 > 0:37:00I always wanted to be in comics.
0:37:00 > 0:37:02Where do you end up, but with The Dandy?
0:37:02 > 0:37:06So, are you quite honoured to be drawing Desperate Dan
0:37:06 > 0:37:08in the last issue of The Dandy?
0:37:08 > 0:37:12Yes. It's always an honour to be asked to draw something historic.
0:37:12 > 0:37:15That'll be great. Yeah.
0:37:15 > 0:37:17When I found out, I was amazed.
0:37:17 > 0:37:19Desperate Dan, is that a worrying thing,
0:37:19 > 0:37:21having to step into the shoes of Dudley D Watkins?
0:37:21 > 0:37:24Well, Dudley was one of the great originators,
0:37:24 > 0:37:28one of the real original artists of the comics world.
0:37:28 > 0:37:31Having to draw like him is a little bit daunting
0:37:31 > 0:37:34because you've got the weight of history on your shoulders,
0:37:34 > 0:37:38going back to before the war. So it is hard,
0:37:38 > 0:37:41but you just grit your teeth and get on with it, don't you?
0:37:43 > 0:37:47In '82, 45 years after he'd first edited The Dandy,
0:37:47 > 0:37:49Albert Barnes finally retired.
0:37:49 > 0:37:53His successor, Dave Torrie, did the unthinkable.
0:37:53 > 0:37:56He had Desperate Dan stage a palace revolution
0:37:56 > 0:37:59that ousted Korky from the front page.
0:37:59 > 0:38:02SCREECH!
0:38:02 > 0:38:06That would have been a crime in Albert's eyes. Albert never...
0:38:06 > 0:38:09Not only did he...he kept The Dandy, Korky on the cover,
0:38:09 > 0:38:12Desperate Dan on the inside cover, he kept it for decades.
0:38:12 > 0:38:14You could go right through his makeup
0:38:14 > 0:38:17and it stayed the same year after year.
0:38:17 > 0:38:21He wouldn't have done that at all, he wouldn't have done it.
0:38:21 > 0:38:24Occasionally, The Dandy became controversial,
0:38:24 > 0:38:26like the time it published a recipe for gunpowder
0:38:26 > 0:38:29in a 1966 Guy Fawkes edition.
0:38:30 > 0:38:33Brassneck was this robot.
0:38:33 > 0:38:35A very intelligent guy, you see.
0:38:35 > 0:38:39So the kids were thinking about making their own fireworks.
0:38:39 > 0:38:41Remember, this is back in the early '60s.
0:38:41 > 0:38:46So on this blackboard, Brassneck had written this recipe for gunpowder,
0:38:46 > 0:38:49but it would have worked.
0:38:49 > 0:38:50It was a recipe for gunpowder.
0:38:50 > 0:38:53What, the formula for the actual stuff?
0:38:53 > 0:38:56And The Dandy, Albert Barnes got this letter
0:38:56 > 0:38:58from the Minister of Explosives.
0:38:58 > 0:39:00They've got one of them, have they?
0:39:00 > 0:39:03And it was a rap over the knuckles for printing this.
0:39:06 > 0:39:08The '70s brought The Dandy a new hero.
0:39:10 > 0:39:15Bananaman, a Superman send-up, began life in a new comic, Nutty,
0:39:15 > 0:39:18which eventually merged with The Dandy.
0:39:18 > 0:39:22Bananaman was the first DC Thomson character to get his own TV show.
0:39:25 > 0:39:29But even the arrival of a banana-munching superhero at The Dandy
0:39:29 > 0:39:32didn't alter the fact that the comic was now being outsold
0:39:32 > 0:39:34two-to-one by its rival The Beano.
0:39:37 > 0:39:38Enter, Morris Heggie.
0:39:38 > 0:39:40Well, this is The Dandy office.
0:39:40 > 0:39:43Come inside and I'll introduce you to my staff.
0:39:43 > 0:39:44It's Morris in his heyday.
0:39:44 > 0:39:46Before biffs, bangs and banana skins
0:39:46 > 0:39:48turned his hair 50 shades of grey.
0:39:48 > 0:39:51Hi. I'm Riona. I'm the Dandy balloonist.
0:39:51 > 0:39:54I do all the balloon work and colour work for the magazine.
0:39:54 > 0:39:56Hi, there. I'm Jim, comic genius.
0:39:56 > 0:40:00I write Cuddles and Dimples and Jocks and Geordies.
0:40:00 > 0:40:05What is it like to spend your adult working life trying to make eight year olds laugh?
0:40:05 > 0:40:08Does it rub off, or were you bonkers to start with? How does that work?
0:40:08 > 0:40:12I think you're born bonkers. That's how you do it.
0:40:16 > 0:40:19You must have a favourite character from that period.
0:40:19 > 0:40:21Yeah. Terror Tots, Cuddles and Dimples.
0:40:21 > 0:40:24I was working on a comic called The Nutty,
0:40:24 > 0:40:26where I did this character Cuddles.
0:40:26 > 0:40:30So I teamed him up with a character in The Dandy called Dimples.
0:40:30 > 0:40:34Eventually, they became twins that had the same parents.
0:40:34 > 0:40:38Yeah, but there was something odd about that setup.
0:40:38 > 0:40:40That naughty artist, Barry Appleby,
0:40:40 > 0:40:42when we said we'll join the families,
0:40:42 > 0:40:47he used the mum from one family with the dad from the other.
0:40:47 > 0:40:49So there was a wife-swapping incident.
0:40:49 > 0:40:51There was a scandal in The Dandy.
0:40:51 > 0:40:55The Dandy had another close shave with Winker Watson.
0:40:55 > 0:40:58In one series of Winker stories,
0:40:58 > 0:41:00there was a millionaire kid came to the school.
0:41:00 > 0:41:03And he ended up having a helicopter.
0:41:03 > 0:41:07And just as a wee joke, Winker tied a bomb underneath it.
0:41:07 > 0:41:13And we always had to do these rhyming lines above the stories.
0:41:13 > 0:41:16So we submitted a few and the boss would pick the one he liked best.
0:41:16 > 0:41:19The one I submitted, just for a laugh, said,
0:41:19 > 0:41:21"Here's a wangle that's a topper,
0:41:21 > 0:41:24"just look what's slung beneath Boodle's chopper."
0:41:26 > 0:41:29And to my amazement, the boss passed it.
0:41:29 > 0:41:33So we got it set up, got it put on the page and the page went away.
0:41:33 > 0:41:36About three weeks later, somebody who was going to print the thing
0:41:36 > 0:41:38got in touch and said, "You cannae do this!"
0:41:38 > 0:41:40We had to change it at the last minute.
0:41:42 > 0:41:44By the 1990s, Britain was undergoing
0:41:44 > 0:41:46a revolution of political correctness.
0:41:46 > 0:41:49Some of The Dandy's characters and storylines
0:41:49 > 0:41:52- were now deemed to be too violent. - CRACK!
0:41:52 > 0:41:56The Jocks and the Geordies was the first casualty.
0:41:56 > 0:42:00Dropped in '97 after 22 years of gang warfare and comic violence.
0:42:00 > 0:42:03GRUNTING
0:42:03 > 0:42:06Bullying was now recognised as a social evil.
0:42:06 > 0:42:09So Bully Beef was first toned down,
0:42:09 > 0:42:12and then dropped altogether.
0:42:14 > 0:42:18I actually wish I'd been working 10, 15 years before,
0:42:18 > 0:42:21the '60s and the '70s, because they got away with a lot more.
0:42:21 > 0:42:24By the time I started working,
0:42:24 > 0:42:27the PC rules and regulations started coming in.
0:42:27 > 0:42:29Certain things happened with Desperate Dan.
0:42:29 > 0:42:33He wasn't allowed to do a lot of the dangerous things that he did,
0:42:33 > 0:42:35like shaving with a blowtorch and that.
0:42:35 > 0:42:38You can imagine that would be one of the first things to go.
0:42:38 > 0:42:42So it took away a lot of the anarchy and the fun out of it.
0:42:47 > 0:42:51In 1979, the Viz launches, and it's outrageous.
0:42:51 > 0:42:54It's smutty, surreal, satirical.
0:42:54 > 0:42:56And it borrows characters
0:42:56 > 0:42:58and its visual style from The Dandy.
0:43:04 > 0:43:08We sort of celebrated that world, that strange world
0:43:08 > 0:43:11in which the, especially the DC Thomson characters exist,
0:43:11 > 0:43:13which is sort of...
0:43:13 > 0:43:17I mean, Desperate Dan lives in this sort of cowboy world
0:43:17 > 0:43:22- that has stone walls and pillar boxes.- Cactusville.
0:43:22 > 0:43:24But we sort of put into that
0:43:24 > 0:43:29the world that we knew at the time, you know, which was this sort of...
0:43:29 > 0:43:33We were in this northern English, um...
0:43:33 > 0:43:38post-industrial sort of...hell-scape, really, you know.
0:43:38 > 0:43:41So we just added the bleakness
0:43:41 > 0:43:43and the violence and the social problems
0:43:43 > 0:43:45that we knew from around us
0:43:45 > 0:43:50into this sort of joyful world of innocence from The Dandy.
0:43:50 > 0:43:52And that was really what Viz was.
0:43:52 > 0:43:57We ran a few spoofs of Dandy characters,
0:43:57 > 0:44:00well, Dandy and Beano. Generally, DC Thomson characters.
0:44:00 > 0:44:05Crivens! The beastie's doing a wee jobbie in ma floowerbed!
0:44:05 > 0:44:07We did Corky the Twat,
0:44:07 > 0:44:10Desperately Unfunny Dan,
0:44:10 > 0:44:14Arsehole Kate and Wanker Watson.
0:44:14 > 0:44:16And when we published Wanker Watson,
0:44:16 > 0:44:19we were issued with hat's known in the legal trade
0:44:19 > 0:44:21as a cease-and-desist order,
0:44:21 > 0:44:25which meant that if we were to parody any of DC Thomson's work again,
0:44:25 > 0:44:28legal action would begin against us
0:44:28 > 0:44:31without any further written notice.
0:44:31 > 0:44:35So we felt a bit lost really, for a moment, thinking,
0:44:35 > 0:44:38well, if we can't parody any of DC Thomson's work,
0:44:38 > 0:44:41what are we able to do, you know?
0:44:41 > 0:44:44So we decided to create a brand-new character
0:44:44 > 0:44:47that didn't reflect any of DC Thomson's work.
0:44:47 > 0:44:50And we called this character,
0:44:50 > 0:44:53DC Thompson, The Humourless Scottish Git.
0:44:53 > 0:44:55THEY LAUGH
0:44:55 > 0:44:58His catchphrase was, "Och, readers, I think I've pissed ma kilt."
0:44:58 > 0:45:00THEY LAUGH
0:45:02 > 0:45:05Dennis! You are a menace!
0:45:05 > 0:45:07You're breaking the law!
0:45:07 > 0:45:11Dennis the Menace is copyright, you hear me?
0:45:11 > 0:45:15Why, there's a misunderstanding. This is my son, Dennis.
0:45:15 > 0:45:19- I was just saying what a menace he can be at times.- Bah!
0:45:20 > 0:45:24Come on, Dennis. I'll get you some little sour plum sweets.
0:45:25 > 0:45:29The Viz had been running various parodies of us.
0:45:29 > 0:45:33Desperately Unfunny Dan, Wanker Watson, things like that.
0:45:33 > 0:45:37And we were doing a story Jocks and Geordies,
0:45:37 > 0:45:39which, of course, is us,
0:45:39 > 0:45:43where the Jocks were writing a comic
0:45:43 > 0:45:45and the Geordies stole it.
0:45:49 > 0:45:52This is the Geordies' real competition entry.
0:45:52 > 0:45:54The Not-Very-Good Sharks?
0:45:54 > 0:45:57The Boy with the Big Pants? None of this lot are funny.
0:45:57 > 0:45:59- Rumbled!- Rumbled!
0:45:59 > 0:46:01- Take that!- Take that, that, that!
0:46:01 > 0:46:03- Take that!- Take that!- Take that!
0:46:03 > 0:46:08The Jocks are the winners. That's a real comic punch line.
0:46:08 > 0:46:10The Dandy was now in full colour.
0:46:10 > 0:46:14And in July '99, issue number 3007
0:46:14 > 0:46:16made it Britain's longest-running comic.
0:46:18 > 0:46:21Desperate Dan almost didn't make that issue.
0:46:21 > 0:46:24Two years earlier, The Dandy featured a story
0:46:24 > 0:46:25in which he retired.
0:46:27 > 0:46:31It was coming up to Dan's 60th birthday.
0:46:31 > 0:46:34So we had Dan come into money.
0:46:34 > 0:46:37Big yacht, ran off with the Spice Girls, thought it was a good laugh,
0:46:37 > 0:46:40thought we could maybe make this run for a little while.
0:46:40 > 0:46:45And my Dandy. Can't enjoy breakfast without my Dandy.
0:46:45 > 0:46:47There is no Dandy, sir.
0:46:47 > 0:46:50Seemingly The Dandy will be no more without Desperate Dan.
0:46:50 > 0:46:53What? This can't be true!
0:46:53 > 0:46:55I must see for myself! Ah!
0:46:55 > 0:46:58Where's the editor and all my old pals?
0:46:58 > 0:47:02It must be true. What have I done?
0:47:02 > 0:47:05But of course, the real hardcore Dandy fans were appalled
0:47:05 > 0:47:10that Desperate Dan was not in the comic.
0:47:11 > 0:47:12Mistake.
0:47:12 > 0:47:16Craig Graham has been editor here at The Dandy for five years.
0:47:16 > 0:47:19In 75 years, there's only been four editors here.
0:47:19 > 0:47:23Three times as many men have walked on the moon.
0:47:23 > 0:47:28When I finished at university, I spotted an advert in the local paper
0:47:28 > 0:47:31for a job as, I think, a magazine journalist here,
0:47:31 > 0:47:33or a trainee magazine journalist at DC Thomson.
0:47:33 > 0:47:38And I thought, "That will do me through the summer until I go to teacher-training college."
0:47:38 > 0:47:40And that was 15 years ago now.
0:47:40 > 0:47:44What reaction do you get when you tell people, "I'm the editor of The Dandy"?
0:47:44 > 0:47:46Well, they never really believe you.
0:47:46 > 0:47:49And once you've convinced them that, yeah, there is such a job
0:47:49 > 0:47:51in reality and not just in the comic...
0:47:51 > 0:47:54Is that one of the things people say, "That's not a real job?"
0:47:54 > 0:47:58Yeah, yeah. They say, "That must be a laugh from 9-5 every day."
0:47:58 > 0:48:00And I always say,
0:48:00 > 0:48:03"It is, but it doesnae stop at 5:00."
0:48:03 > 0:48:05You think about it all the time.
0:48:05 > 0:48:09You wake up during the middle of the night and you've had a thought,
0:48:09 > 0:48:11so you scribble it down and think that's really funny
0:48:11 > 0:48:14and you go in at 9:00 in the morning and you think,
0:48:14 > 0:48:17"That wasnae that funny, but there's something there."
0:48:17 > 0:48:20Under Craig, The Dandy evolved.
0:48:20 > 0:48:24In 2007, I think it was, we went fortnightly.
0:48:24 > 0:48:28We started to bring in lots of films and games and things like that.
0:48:28 > 0:48:32Things like Toy Story or like the sort of Madagascar films today.
0:48:32 > 0:48:36And we felt that we could benefit from their popularity,
0:48:36 > 0:48:38so we brought them into the comic.
0:48:38 > 0:48:40And it kinda worked for a while.
0:48:40 > 0:48:44After a while, Toy Story brought out its own magazines,
0:48:44 > 0:48:47so everybody who wanted to read about Toy Story bought that.
0:48:47 > 0:48:51So the benefits to us were fading fairly quickly,
0:48:51 > 0:48:53so we knew we had to change things again.
0:48:53 > 0:48:57So in 2010, we reverted to weekly
0:48:57 > 0:49:01and went back to being a traditional British kids' humour comic.
0:49:01 > 0:49:06But at the same time, we knew that 2010 wasn't 1937 all over again,
0:49:06 > 0:49:08so we brought the celebrities in,
0:49:08 > 0:49:11had a bit of fun with them, took the mickey
0:49:11 > 0:49:16and we've just had loads of fun with the modern kids' lifestyle.
0:49:17 > 0:49:20Five years after Desperate Dan saw the wrecking ball smash The Dandy,
0:49:20 > 0:49:23life imitated art.
0:49:23 > 0:49:25On the 4th December 2012,
0:49:25 > 0:49:29the last edition of The Dandy really was printed.
0:49:29 > 0:49:32On that very day, The Dandy was 75 years old.
0:49:37 > 0:49:40The Dandy, I think, is part of Dundee's history.
0:49:40 > 0:49:42But I'm sorry, it's history.
0:49:42 > 0:49:45Very sad, actually. I don't know why they're finishing it.
0:49:45 > 0:49:47It's part of Dundee's history.
0:49:47 > 0:49:49Kids are not kids any more.
0:49:49 > 0:49:53They're not into comics or things like that, sadly.
0:49:53 > 0:49:56It was an institution when I was growing up.
0:49:57 > 0:49:59With its circulation down to around 8,000,
0:49:59 > 0:50:01a fraction of The Beano's,
0:50:01 > 0:50:05The Dandy just isn't worth printing any more.
0:50:05 > 0:50:09There'll be an earthquake in Burnhill, because that's where Albert Barnes is buried.
0:50:09 > 0:50:11And he'd be turning in his grave
0:50:11 > 0:50:14to know that his pet comic was going down, you know.
0:50:14 > 0:50:16So, what's to become of Beryl?
0:50:16 > 0:50:18Well, she will be, like myself,
0:50:18 > 0:50:21well into her mature years now.
0:50:21 > 0:50:24I would like to think that she was
0:50:24 > 0:50:28somewhere in a little bit of all of us, of my generation.
0:50:28 > 0:50:30But she definitely would be bolshy character.
0:50:30 > 0:50:33Either that, or she's matured
0:50:33 > 0:50:36into a sweet old lady, something like myself.
0:50:36 > 0:50:38I'm very sad about it.
0:50:38 > 0:50:41Because, it's you know, part of my, part of my growing up.
0:50:41 > 0:50:43I was gutted, really.
0:50:43 > 0:50:46Really gutted that it was coming to an end.
0:50:46 > 0:50:48Surely Desperate Dan cannot vanish.
0:50:48 > 0:50:53Lord Snooty's had a revival, thanks to the present Tory government.
0:50:54 > 0:50:59That surely cannot be allowed to slip away.
0:51:00 > 0:51:04Unlike the cartoon editor in the Desperate Dan retiring strip,
0:51:04 > 0:51:06Craig's not joining the dole queue.
0:51:06 > 0:51:10He's going over to the enemy and becoming editor of The Beano.
0:51:10 > 0:51:13But there was still that matter of the final Dandy to produce.
0:51:15 > 0:51:19Excellent! It really looks like Paul McCartney, doesn't it?
0:51:19 > 0:51:21- Yeah, definitely.- Tremendous!
0:51:21 > 0:51:24Now, I've got a cover buff from our art department.
0:51:24 > 0:51:28So we've got the classic logo up here, collector's edition text.
0:51:28 > 0:51:32We'll refine that nearer the time.
0:51:32 > 0:51:36But we do have another obvious question, which is,
0:51:36 > 0:51:40do we do a classic cover, or do we do a modern cover?
0:51:40 > 0:51:43Are you enjoying putting the final edition together?
0:51:43 > 0:51:45Yeah. It's a huge job.
0:51:45 > 0:51:50We're doing 75 characters from The Dandy's 75-year history.
0:51:50 > 0:51:53That is a massive undertaking. It won't be all traditional.
0:51:53 > 0:51:57There'll be bits in there for granddads and great-granddads.
0:51:57 > 0:52:00I'm sure there'll also be stuff for the kids, as well.
0:52:00 > 0:52:02It will be great fun.
0:52:02 > 0:52:05And while it's a lot for work to put it together,
0:52:05 > 0:52:07it's also been an absolute blast.
0:52:07 > 0:52:09It doesnae sound the least big pressured.
0:52:09 > 0:52:11HE LAUGHS
0:52:11 > 0:52:14100 pages in a week. That's quite a lot of pressure.
0:52:20 > 0:52:24Nigel Auchterlounie is drawing the final print edition, Korky the Cat.
0:52:26 > 0:52:28It feels great, actually. Um...
0:52:28 > 0:52:31because I can't be the first.
0:52:31 > 0:52:33THEY LAUGH
0:52:33 > 0:52:35Without a time shield.
0:52:35 > 0:52:38Um...I just hope I don't mess it up.
0:52:40 > 0:52:42He's supposed to be a cat that can talk and walk around.
0:52:42 > 0:52:47That's the nice thing about Korky, is that there's no...
0:52:47 > 0:52:51It's not like a secret agent undercover reporter this or that.
0:52:51 > 0:52:55- He's just a cat and his adventures. - Mm-hm.
0:52:59 > 0:53:02Craig is about to click on "Send."
0:53:02 > 0:53:06When he does, the final issue of The Dandy will go to the print works.
0:53:06 > 0:53:12Three...two...one. Go!
0:53:12 > 0:53:15The last-ever Dandy rolls off the press.
0:53:19 > 0:53:23But The Dandy's not finished yet. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
0:53:23 > 0:53:25These are DC Thomson's Brain Duanes.
0:53:25 > 0:53:27Geeks, to you and me.
0:53:27 > 0:53:29They're creating a Digital Dandy.
0:53:29 > 0:53:32An app where Desperate Dan and his Dandy friends
0:53:32 > 0:53:35can live on for another 75 years.
0:53:37 > 0:53:40What we're effectively doing is turning it into a motion comic.
0:53:40 > 0:53:42We're adding sound and voices, we're adding games into it.
0:53:42 > 0:53:44There'll be some video elements.
0:53:44 > 0:53:46And that's going to be available online
0:53:46 > 0:53:49as a sort of downloadable app
0:53:49 > 0:53:51for mobile phones and tablets.
0:53:51 > 0:53:54There's Desperate Dan, Korky the Cat, Beryl the Peril,
0:53:54 > 0:53:58Keyhole Kate and Bananaman. So all the best-loved characters.
0:53:58 > 0:54:00Kids will be able to download it.
0:54:00 > 0:54:03There'll be scenes within some of the strips,
0:54:03 > 0:54:04so there'll be mini-games within it.
0:54:04 > 0:54:06You swipe through from cell to cell.
0:54:06 > 0:54:09It's still a comic, it's still self-paste.
0:54:09 > 0:54:12It's down to the user to click or swipe onto the next cell.
0:54:14 > 0:54:17There's one scene where Dan's blowing up a gas cannon
0:54:17 > 0:54:20and you've got to click as fast as you can for that to blow up.
0:54:20 > 0:54:23There'll be some stand-alone games, as well,
0:54:23 > 0:54:27and also some video content, competitions and puzzles.
0:54:27 > 0:54:28So, yeah, it's fully interactive.
0:54:28 > 0:54:32Not a flat comic any more, really bring it into the digital age.
0:54:35 > 0:54:39What I think hasn't changed is that kids love to laugh.
0:54:39 > 0:54:42And the things that make them laugh are still the same things
0:54:42 > 0:54:45that made them laugh at any point in history.
0:54:45 > 0:54:48It's a policeman slipping on a banana skin,
0:54:48 > 0:54:50or it's teacher spelling the word wrong
0:54:50 > 0:54:53and the kids can spot it before he does.
0:54:53 > 0:54:55And that kind of humour will never change.
0:54:55 > 0:54:57Well, I tell you something, I...
0:54:57 > 0:55:00It's not necessarily bad news if it goes digital
0:55:00 > 0:55:05because presumably, every comic will be digital soon.
0:55:05 > 0:55:10It feels like the end, but it could be a sort of beginning for it.
0:55:10 > 0:55:13And I would like to see...
0:55:13 > 0:55:16I don't know how you could do things like Big Head and Thick Head.
0:55:16 > 0:55:18You'd have to call them
0:55:18 > 0:55:22Bright and Learning Difficulties and stuff like that.
0:55:22 > 0:55:24THEY LAUGH
0:55:24 > 0:55:27- It's not...- Oh, dear! - It's not going to help, is it?
0:55:27 > 0:55:30Um...it's a pity they couldn't capture
0:55:30 > 0:55:33some of that original spirit of it. I suppose...
0:55:33 > 0:55:36I heard Desperate Dan was going to get
0:55:36 > 0:55:38the big-money transfer to The Beano.
0:55:38 > 0:55:40- It's what he'd do with the cash is the problem.- I always...
0:55:40 > 0:55:45Desperate Dan was always The Dandy's main man.
0:55:45 > 0:55:49So the idea of him going to their rivals...
0:55:49 > 0:55:52So, Harry Hill's been on the front of a few covers,
0:55:52 > 0:55:55but not Funtime Frankie. What's happened there?
0:55:55 > 0:55:58I don't know. I just never got the call.
0:55:58 > 0:56:03I think I'm holding out for the digital version.
0:56:03 > 0:56:08So far, I've met The Dandy writers, the artists and loads of fans.
0:56:08 > 0:56:11I reckon it's time to talk to the man himself.
0:56:11 > 0:56:14But how can I talk to a cartoon?
0:56:14 > 0:56:17How can a cartoon talk to me?
0:56:17 > 0:56:19I'll become a cartoon!
0:56:22 > 0:56:24If something needs to be drawn, I'll draw it.
0:56:26 > 0:56:28Just get your hair right.
0:56:30 > 0:56:34Now, you know I'm only 35, right?
0:56:34 > 0:56:37- Obviously, that's coming across. - Yes, I can see that.
0:56:37 > 0:56:40There you go. Wide-eyed look there. Looking pleased.
0:56:40 > 0:56:41That's definitely me.
0:56:41 > 0:56:44That's what Dan looks like in real life
0:56:44 > 0:56:47and that's what you look like in real life. Sorry.
0:56:55 > 0:56:57There's one person I need to interview
0:56:57 > 0:57:01if I want to get the full scoop on what's going on with The Dandy.
0:57:04 > 0:57:05Ah! There he is now.
0:57:05 > 0:57:09I'll just mosey up to him and get the inside story.
0:57:09 > 0:57:13- Excuse me? Mr Desperate...? - Pesky flies! Shoo!
0:57:13 > 0:57:15Aarrgghh!
0:57:15 > 0:57:17Oh! That was sair!
0:57:17 > 0:57:18Oh-ho!
0:57:18 > 0:57:22- Argh! - HE COUGHS
0:57:22 > 0:57:24Maybe I need to try the direct approach.
0:57:26 > 0:57:29Mr Dan, a few wee questions for you.
0:57:29 > 0:57:31Waah!
0:57:31 > 0:57:33That didnae work out as well as I thought.
0:57:35 > 0:57:39Son, you don't want to be getting in Dan's way at lunchtime.
0:57:39 > 0:57:44No, sirree! Only thing on the big galoot's mind is his grub! Yup!
0:57:46 > 0:57:49Time to cook up a new plan. Hm.
0:57:50 > 0:57:52Got it!
0:57:52 > 0:57:54Ooo, that looks mighty tasty!
0:57:57 > 0:57:59Shucks! Maybe the cow was a bit too fresh!
0:58:02 > 0:58:06Hello, Dan! Could you give me and the viewers a few words about your future
0:58:06 > 0:58:08and what's in store for The Dandy?
0:58:10 > 0:58:12Well, I think I can safely say
0:58:12 > 0:58:17Desperate Dan's got no intentions of giving up without a fight.
0:58:17 > 0:58:19Now, could somebody just call him off?
0:58:19 > 0:58:21Oh, Mammy! Daddy!
0:58:21 > 0:58:25You lunch-rustling, pie-poaching sidewinder!
0:58:25 > 0:58:28The inside of a pie's going to be where you belong
0:58:28 > 0:58:31after I make mincemeat out of you! Come on!
0:58:35 > 0:58:38Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd