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0:00:02 > 0:00:05Hello, gentlemen. Today you will enjoy a nice Vesper Martini,

0:00:05 > 0:00:09which is probably James Bond's favourite drink.

0:00:09 > 0:00:13So, one double for each cocktail, of gin.

0:00:13 > 0:00:14Any particular kind of gin?

0:00:14 > 0:00:15A good one!

0:00:17 > 0:00:19- Mother's ruin.- Yes.

0:00:19 > 0:00:21A nice, premium vodka.

0:00:21 > 0:00:23- This is a good vodka.- Yes.

0:00:23 > 0:00:265ml of Lillet.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28Would you like to shake it or stir it?

0:00:28 > 0:00:32- Not bothered.- Not bothered, really. - OK. I suppose shaken.

0:00:42 > 0:00:46This is very impressive, Andre, but who are you working for really?

0:00:46 > 0:00:48Where are you from, Andre?

0:00:51 > 0:00:53- Romania.- Oh.- Oh!

0:00:53 > 0:00:56We thought you were going to say SMERSH.

0:00:58 > 0:01:01- That's very good.- Very impressive, isn't it?- Sounds good as well.

0:01:04 > 0:01:08This was invented for Casino Royale, the Vesper.

0:01:11 > 0:01:14- Isn't it fancy?- Very fancy.

0:01:14 > 0:01:16- There you go, gentlemen.- One moment.

0:01:23 > 0:01:25- Cheers. James Bond.- Cheers.

0:01:27 > 0:01:29BOTH: Ooh!

0:01:29 > 0:01:30That's nice, isn't it?

0:01:30 > 0:01:33Goes down very nicely.

0:01:34 > 0:01:39So, Matthew, who, in your mind,

0:01:39 > 0:01:41is the ultimate James Bond?

0:01:42 > 0:01:45- I think the "premium" Bond, Mark...- Clever.

0:01:45 > 0:01:50JAMES BOND THEME PLAYS

0:02:03 > 0:02:05I need another thousand.

0:02:05 > 0:02:07I admire your courage, Miss...?

0:02:07 > 0:02:10Trench. Sylvia Trench.

0:02:10 > 0:02:12I admire your luck, Mr...?

0:02:12 > 0:02:14Bond.

0:02:15 > 0:02:17James Bond.

0:02:17 > 0:02:20Mr Bond, I suppose you wouldn't care to...

0:02:20 > 0:02:21raise the limit?

0:02:21 > 0:02:23I have no objections.

0:02:23 > 0:02:27'So what do we make of Connery as a figure, as a leading man?'

0:02:27 > 0:02:29Looks like you're out to get me.

0:02:29 > 0:02:32He doesn't look English,

0:02:32 > 0:02:33he doesn't sound English

0:02:33 > 0:02:37and he's very sort of highly aestheticised, too.

0:02:37 > 0:02:42He seems to be wearing loads of make-up, his eyes look enormous.

0:02:42 > 0:02:46He looks like lots of work has been done on him, somehow.

0:02:46 > 0:02:49In a way, he's a sort of Frankenstein monster, isn't he?

0:02:49 > 0:02:52He's a sum of many different parts and influences.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55The producers have sort of moulded him,

0:02:55 > 0:02:58they've put him into these incredible suits, Savile Row suits.

0:02:58 > 0:03:00James, where on earth have you been?

0:03:00 > 0:03:02I've been searching London for you.

0:03:03 > 0:03:06007 is here, sir.

0:03:06 > 0:03:08He'll see you in a minute.

0:03:08 > 0:03:10Moneypenny.

0:03:10 > 0:03:11What gives?

0:03:11 > 0:03:14Me, given an ounce of encouragement.

0:03:14 > 0:03:16He represents a sort of person

0:03:16 > 0:03:18that everybody wants to be,

0:03:18 > 0:03:21- but they're not quite sure what he is.- Yeah.

0:03:21 > 0:03:22And the fact that he is, of course,

0:03:22 > 0:03:26a government employee

0:03:26 > 0:03:30paid to kill people is, erm...

0:03:30 > 0:03:34perhaps some part of the aspiration they didn't know they had!

0:03:34 > 0:03:39Very clever, Mr Bond. But you're up against more than you know.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42You shoot me, and you'll end up like Strangways.

0:03:42 > 0:03:43And you killed him?

0:03:43 > 0:03:45He was killed, but never mind how.

0:03:45 > 0:03:48Who are you working for, Professor?

0:03:48 > 0:03:51Well, you might as well know, as you won't live to use the information.

0:03:51 > 0:03:54- I'm working for... - HE FIRES

0:03:54 > 0:03:57That's a Smith & Wesson.

0:03:57 > 0:03:58And you've had your six.

0:04:07 > 0:04:12There's a very powerful sense of how sexy it is,

0:04:12 > 0:04:16and how much it's part of that persona.

0:04:16 > 0:04:21You know, later Bonds would be either criticised

0:04:21 > 0:04:23for doing too much or not enough.

0:04:23 > 0:04:26It's having that edge which Connery always had

0:04:26 > 0:04:29of looking like he could just...

0:04:29 > 0:04:32Like the Incredible Hulk - he would just suddenly burst out of that.

0:04:32 > 0:04:35And no matter who you were,

0:04:35 > 0:04:37you might be in the line of fire.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52GLASS SMASHES

0:05:04 > 0:05:06There's another procedural element

0:05:06 > 0:05:11that I think is there in all of those '60s films, to some extent.

0:05:11 > 0:05:14In a way, it looks like something to do with spying,

0:05:14 > 0:05:17but I think it's actually something else.

0:05:17 > 0:05:19It's how to go to a hotel,

0:05:19 > 0:05:22how to inspect the environment that we're in.

0:05:22 > 0:05:25It strikes me that an audience member would've been as intoxicated

0:05:25 > 0:05:27by the idea of going to a hotel

0:05:27 > 0:05:30maybe where they knew you were coming, they knew you already.

0:05:30 > 0:05:33There wasn't that kind of moment of embarrassment

0:05:33 > 0:05:36between the person behind the desk and the person arriving,

0:05:36 > 0:05:39which is the trademark of all interactions

0:05:39 > 0:05:42of British people checking in to a hotel.

0:05:42 > 0:05:44The ease of all of that.

0:05:44 > 0:05:46- 32 for Mr Bond. - Hope you enjoy your stay.

0:05:46 > 0:05:48Thank you.

0:05:50 > 0:05:53JAMES BOND THEME PLAYS

0:06:07 > 0:06:09BELLBOY CLEARS THROAT

0:06:09 > 0:06:11Will there be anything else, sir?

0:06:11 > 0:06:13Only this. Thank you.

0:06:13 > 0:06:15Thank you, sir.

0:06:16 > 0:06:19I think it's in From Russia With Love,

0:06:19 > 0:06:22where he goes into a hotel room

0:06:22 > 0:06:24and he's checking it for bugs.

0:06:29 > 0:06:31But I think maybe when you're watching it,

0:06:31 > 0:06:34you don't realise that is quite what he's doing

0:06:34 > 0:06:36until maybe he's looked behind the second or third picture.

0:06:40 > 0:06:43Perhaps he's just seeing, "Is this hotel room good enough?"

0:06:45 > 0:06:48The Bond theme rises.

0:06:48 > 0:06:50Rather excitingly, if you like,

0:06:50 > 0:06:53because he's literally just checking a hotel room

0:06:53 > 0:06:55and it's the sort of music you'd associate with a chase.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01- Mr Bond here.- Yes. - I'm afraid the room won't do.

0:07:01 > 0:07:03- I'm sorry.- The bed's too small.

0:07:03 > 0:07:07The ease, perhaps, is the most sort of attractive quality

0:07:07 > 0:07:11of this sort of non-English Englishman.

0:07:11 > 0:07:15Because, you're absolutely right, the audience...

0:07:15 > 0:07:19What you expect is that it would be something like Carry On Abroad -

0:07:19 > 0:07:22if they ever actually managed to get abroad in those days

0:07:22 > 0:07:24it would be a fumbling embarrassment.

0:07:24 > 0:07:26But he does it with such practised skill,

0:07:26 > 0:07:28American-like confidence, really,

0:07:28 > 0:07:31that sort of urbanity

0:07:31 > 0:07:34which you could only hope to aspire to.

0:07:34 > 0:07:38But, you're right, it's shown in such exquisite detail

0:07:38 > 0:07:41that it's actually part of the joy of it.

0:07:41 > 0:07:46I remember being thrilled first seeing From Russia With Love -

0:07:46 > 0:07:48Bond orders figs and yoghurt.

0:07:48 > 0:07:50Figs and yoghurt, yeah.

0:07:57 > 0:07:58Hello.

0:07:58 > 0:08:01Erm, breakfast for one at nine, please.

0:08:02 > 0:08:05Green figs, yoghurt.

0:08:05 > 0:08:07Coffee - very black. Thank you.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11There's also his bathroom activities,

0:08:11 > 0:08:16which, you know, I don't think we've ever had a British hero,

0:08:16 > 0:08:20a British leading man, who spent quite so much time in the bathroom.

0:08:20 > 0:08:24The bathroom is central to James Bond, isn't it?

0:08:24 > 0:08:26And the rituals of...

0:08:26 > 0:08:31I can imagine, like Clark Gable's absence of vest

0:08:31 > 0:08:32in It Happened One Night,

0:08:32 > 0:08:36that it might have sort of revolutionised

0:08:36 > 0:08:38male bathroom habits.

0:08:38 > 0:08:41Certainly in terms of intention.

0:08:41 > 0:08:42You can imagine that maybe,

0:08:42 > 0:08:45for a week after seeing From Russia With Love,

0:08:45 > 0:08:47lots of men in the audience thought,

0:08:47 > 0:08:50"Right, I'm going to shave like this and I'm going to wear cologne,"

0:08:50 > 0:08:53and then probably gone back to not washing,

0:08:53 > 0:08:55and putting their string vest on.

0:08:55 > 0:08:59But, again, there's something really...

0:08:59 > 0:09:04for the time, very sophisticated about the idea of having such a...

0:09:04 > 0:09:07a look, and such a sharpness to it.

0:09:10 > 0:09:13WATER SPLASHES

0:09:13 > 0:09:15Hmm.

0:09:20 > 0:09:21Oh!

0:09:21 > 0:09:22Forgive me.

0:09:22 > 0:09:24Why do you always wear that thing?

0:09:24 > 0:09:27I have a slight inferiority complex.

0:09:27 > 0:09:30The reason the first three are still so good

0:09:30 > 0:09:33is they're made rapidly

0:09:33 > 0:09:36and they're absolutely on a roll.

0:09:36 > 0:09:38Goldfinger, which I think is the best of them,

0:09:38 > 0:09:42they know exactly what they're doing.

0:09:42 > 0:09:45The formula has sort of slotted into place.

0:09:51 > 0:09:53He wants you.

0:10:02 > 0:10:04Ah, Mr Bond. Sit down, please.

0:10:04 > 0:10:06Mint julep?

0:10:06 > 0:10:08Traditional but satisfying.

0:10:08 > 0:10:11Yes, thanks. Some ice, but not too sweet, please.

0:10:13 > 0:10:16You disappoint me, Goldfinger.

0:10:16 > 0:10:18You know Operation Grand Slam simply won't work.

0:10:18 > 0:10:21Incidentally, Delta 9 nerve gas is fatal.

0:10:22 > 0:10:25You are unusually well informed, Mr Bond.

0:10:25 > 0:10:28You kill 60,000 people uselessly.

0:10:28 > 0:10:31American motorists kill that many every two years!

0:10:31 > 0:10:34They've got a fantastic villain with a really good plot.

0:10:34 > 0:10:35It's full of wonderful things.

0:10:35 > 0:10:39It's just punchy and exciting and glamorous.

0:10:39 > 0:10:41Do you expect me to talk?

0:10:41 > 0:10:44No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47There is nothing you can talk to me about that I don't already know.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49Everything works in Goldfinger, including Connery,

0:10:49 > 0:10:54who is just...you know... He's just completely in his stride,

0:10:54 > 0:10:58he's incredibly comfortable, even in a terry towelling bathing suit.

0:10:58 > 0:11:01I'll get back to the office and cable M you're on the job.

0:11:01 > 0:11:04- You can fill me in on the rest at dinner.- Fine, I'll call you later.

0:11:04 > 0:11:07Amazingly, Diamonds Are Forever was going to be

0:11:07 > 0:11:09a sequel to Goldfinger.

0:11:09 > 0:11:13# Diamonds are forever... #

0:11:13 > 0:11:15I think this film has a slightly different tone

0:11:15 > 0:11:16to what has come before.

0:11:16 > 0:11:20There's a more pronounced sadism about it.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23I think you see a streak of cruelty in Bond

0:11:23 > 0:11:26that isn't quite so visible as it has been up to that moment.

0:11:26 > 0:11:30Well, he always had a cruel mouth, as we know.

0:11:30 > 0:11:33Diamonds is a sort of prototype Roger Moore film,

0:11:33 > 0:11:37but with a nastier edge than any of the Moores had, I think.

0:11:37 > 0:11:42It's a Tom Mankiewicz screenplay, very funny.

0:11:42 > 0:11:46There's a wonderful interview with Connery, a rare interview,

0:11:46 > 0:11:50and he, unusually, sort of says, "It's a good one, this."

0:11:50 > 0:11:53He's clearly having a good time.

0:11:53 > 0:11:56But it is... It's very nasty,

0:11:56 > 0:11:59which can put some people off.

0:11:59 > 0:12:01The opening is particularly horrible, isn't it?

0:12:01 > 0:12:04He's dispatching people

0:12:04 > 0:12:07with surgical knives thrown across the room

0:12:07 > 0:12:11and he drowns Blofeld, seemingly,

0:12:11 > 0:12:12in boiling mud.

0:12:12 > 0:12:14- Yeah, yeah.- It's gruesome.

0:12:37 > 0:12:39Welcome to hell, Blofeld.

0:12:40 > 0:12:43It's got that early '70s quality -

0:12:43 > 0:12:46everything's gone a bit off.

0:12:46 > 0:12:48The '60s have gone off.

0:12:48 > 0:12:50The lapels have got wider, the ties are wider.

0:12:50 > 0:12:53Bond is wearing... He wears a pink tie at one stage.

0:12:58 > 0:13:01He is visibly not very fit.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04There's a bit with Jill St John where he's in his pants,

0:13:04 > 0:13:07he's just sort of like your dad on holiday.

0:13:07 > 0:13:09I don't... I've never minded it.

0:13:09 > 0:13:11I'm very impressed.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13There's a lot more to you

0:13:13 > 0:13:15than I had expected.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18Presumably I'm the condemned man,

0:13:18 > 0:13:22and obviously you're the hearty breakfast. Right?

0:13:22 > 0:13:25Diamonds was the first one I ever saw at the pictures

0:13:25 > 0:13:27and I think that's one of the reasons

0:13:27 > 0:13:29it's still one of my favourites.

0:13:29 > 0:13:34But also it's left me with many residual terrors,

0:13:34 > 0:13:38particularly about being put into a coffin and burnt alive,

0:13:38 > 0:13:39which I've never got over!

0:13:41 > 0:13:44Very moving.

0:13:44 > 0:13:46Heart-warming, Mr Wint.

0:13:46 > 0:13:47A glowing tribute, Mr Kidd.

0:14:15 > 0:14:16It has this...

0:14:16 > 0:14:19It's sort of jet-black comedy.

0:14:19 > 0:14:21But mostly Connery's having a really good time

0:14:21 > 0:14:25and, actually, as a sort of farewell for him,

0:14:25 > 0:14:26it's very pleasing.

0:14:29 > 0:14:31PHONE RINGS

0:14:31 > 0:14:33Your call to Marc-Ange Draco,

0:14:33 > 0:14:35head of Draco Construction.

0:14:35 > 0:14:36- Hello, Draco?- Yes, who is it?

0:14:36 > 0:14:39- Bond, James Bond.- Thank God, James.

0:14:39 > 0:14:42- Lazenby.- Right. The other fella.

0:14:42 > 0:14:45The horrible side of watching On Her Majesty's Secret Service

0:14:45 > 0:14:48is that it's one of the best ones, isn't it?

0:14:48 > 0:14:50So much is lavished upon it

0:14:50 > 0:14:52and yet, at the centre, there's somebody who,

0:14:52 > 0:14:57for all his other qualities, just isn't really an actor, is he?

0:14:57 > 0:15:00Why do you persist in rescuing me, Mr Bond?

0:15:00 > 0:15:02It's becoming a habit, isn't it, Contessa Teresa?

0:15:02 > 0:15:05Teresa was a saint. I'm known as Tracy.

0:15:05 > 0:15:09Well, Tracy, next time play it safe and stand on five.

0:15:09 > 0:15:12People who want to stay alive play it safe.

0:15:12 > 0:15:14Please stay alive.

0:15:14 > 0:15:15At least for tonight.

0:15:20 > 0:15:21Come later.

0:15:23 > 0:15:24I hope it'll be worth it...

0:15:24 > 0:15:26partner.

0:15:26 > 0:15:29People routinely say, "If only Connery had done it."

0:15:29 > 0:15:32But if the bored Connery of You Only Live Twice had done it,

0:15:32 > 0:15:34it wouldn't have been the same film.

0:15:34 > 0:15:38There's something just...so special about this film, I think.

0:15:38 > 0:15:43It's... It's absolutely the end of the '60s.

0:15:43 > 0:15:45If it was made in 1970, it wouldn't be the same -

0:15:45 > 0:15:47it's just on the verge.

0:15:47 > 0:15:49Lazenby looks incredible,

0:15:49 > 0:15:52his ruffled shirt is not overblown,

0:15:52 > 0:15:56it's not ruchey, he just looks great.

0:15:56 > 0:16:00He's got all of Connery's machismo, all of his swagger,

0:16:00 > 0:16:01he looks amazing.

0:16:01 > 0:16:06And he was very young - he was about 29 or 30 when he did it.

0:16:06 > 0:16:08And, weirdly, the absence of Connery, to me,

0:16:08 > 0:16:09is what makes it so special.

0:16:09 > 0:16:10What he does have -

0:16:10 > 0:16:14I think that maybe something that many of the others don't have -

0:16:14 > 0:16:18is a kind of balletic approach to violence.

0:16:18 > 0:16:20Connery could beat people up properly,

0:16:20 > 0:16:24but George Lazenby does something entirely different with his body.

0:16:24 > 0:16:27When he thumps somebody, he carries through.

0:16:27 > 0:16:29You know, famous, he got the part

0:16:29 > 0:16:33because he broke the stuntman's nose

0:16:33 > 0:16:35and they thought, "Well, he can do it."

0:16:35 > 0:16:37Tracy?

0:16:37 > 0:16:38Ugh!

0:16:51 > 0:16:52Ah!

0:17:25 > 0:17:27I'm so glad to be able to do this,

0:17:27 > 0:17:30cos there's lots I want to get off my chest!

0:17:30 > 0:17:33It's one of those things

0:17:33 > 0:17:36that history has just been merrily rewritten about.

0:17:36 > 0:17:38It was a hugely successful film.

0:17:38 > 0:17:42The box-office stuff - it's all there, it was number one.

0:17:42 > 0:17:45But it just, compared to some of the others, wasn't as big -

0:17:45 > 0:17:47but it's become a failure, when it wasn't.

0:17:47 > 0:17:50And, you know, he wasn't popular,

0:17:50 > 0:17:52but I believe I'm right in saying

0:17:52 > 0:17:55he did actually send back the contract to Diamonds Are Forever,

0:17:55 > 0:17:58they didn't sack him. They would've carried on.

0:17:58 > 0:18:02And there's another parallel universe in which he carried on

0:18:02 > 0:18:05and sort of became Roger Moore, as it were.

0:18:05 > 0:18:07Well, he might have become Roger Moore

0:18:07 > 0:18:09- with a bit of practice, mightn't he?- Yeah, yeah.

0:18:09 > 0:18:13The end when - spoiler alert -

0:18:13 > 0:18:16Mrs Bond is killed is very touching.

0:18:16 > 0:18:18And he's really good, I think, in that.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21As I say, a lot better than people give him credit for.

0:18:21 > 0:18:22He loves me...

0:18:22 > 0:18:24Instinctively.

0:18:24 > 0:18:25Infuriatingly.

0:18:25 > 0:18:27Intensely.

0:18:27 > 0:18:28In...

0:18:28 > 0:18:29In?

0:18:29 > 0:18:31- In...- In...?

0:18:31 > 0:18:33- In?- Indubitably.

0:18:34 > 0:18:36First a boy and then a girl.

0:18:45 > 0:18:47It's Blofeld!

0:18:48 > 0:18:49Blofeld.

0:19:16 > 0:19:18It's all right.

0:19:19 > 0:19:22It's quite all right, really. She's having a rest.

0:19:24 > 0:19:26We'll be going on soon.

0:19:32 > 0:19:36There's no hurry, you see. We have all the time in the world.

0:19:45 > 0:19:49He also proves that you don't need Sean Connery.

0:19:49 > 0:19:52- Yeah.- Because, whatever his shortcomings are,

0:19:52 > 0:19:56- the film gets away with it as a casting gamble.- Yeah.

0:19:56 > 0:20:00So even if we are disappointed by how he sounds,

0:20:00 > 0:20:02by how he's not really funny,

0:20:02 > 0:20:04by the shape of his ears even,

0:20:04 > 0:20:06we can say to ourselves,

0:20:06 > 0:20:09well, without this one, we wouldn't be...

0:20:09 > 0:20:11All the others just wouldn't exist, would they?

0:20:11 > 0:20:15Broccoli, at the time, he said, "Well, there were 14 Tarzans".

0:20:15 > 0:20:18That's not a very good impression of him.

0:20:18 > 0:20:22But it established the form and, therefore,

0:20:22 > 0:20:25if they could do it once, they could do it again.

0:20:25 > 0:20:28Obviously they immediately panic and get Connery back

0:20:28 > 0:20:33but, when it's clear he'll only do one more, they have to do it again.

0:20:33 > 0:20:35Which brings us...

0:20:35 > 0:20:36To...

0:20:36 > 0:20:38- Sir Roger Moore.- Yes.

0:20:42 > 0:20:43My name's Bond.

0:20:44 > 0:20:46James Bond.

0:20:46 > 0:20:48I know who you are,

0:20:48 > 0:20:50what you are and why you have come.

0:20:50 > 0:20:53'The principal thing I remember about Live And Let Die

0:20:53 > 0:20:54'when it came out'

0:20:54 > 0:20:56is Bond is no longer in charge.

0:20:56 > 0:20:58It's a blaxsploitation film,

0:20:58 > 0:21:00they are not the brand leaders any more,

0:21:00 > 0:21:02they're slightly panicking about where cinema is going

0:21:02 > 0:21:06and trying to put their old-fashioned hero

0:21:06 > 0:21:08onto a new form, as it were.

0:21:23 > 0:21:24Good afternoon.

0:21:24 > 0:21:26Bourbon and water, please.

0:21:26 > 0:21:28First booth'll do.

0:21:29 > 0:21:32- Tell him neat, would you?- Huh?

0:21:32 > 0:21:34- No ice.- That's extra, man.

0:21:34 > 0:21:39I remember, when I saw it last, seeing Roger in Harlem,

0:21:39 > 0:21:40I was worried about him -

0:21:40 > 0:21:43which is not something you ever really get with Bond before!

0:21:43 > 0:21:45I thought, "My God, he's in trouble here."

0:21:45 > 0:21:48This says something about the times, doesn't it, too?

0:21:48 > 0:21:50That actually going to Harlem

0:21:50 > 0:21:54and going to what could be a perfectly ordinary cafe

0:21:54 > 0:21:55or bar or nightclub

0:21:55 > 0:21:58could seem a more dangerous environment

0:21:58 > 0:22:01than being in a shark pool inside a hollowed-out volcano.

0:22:01 > 0:22:03Get to LA and clean it up!

0:22:03 > 0:22:07I'll come out there and clean you up - and I mean that.

0:22:07 > 0:22:09Is this the stupid mother that tails you uptown?

0:22:09 > 0:22:11There seems to be some mistake.

0:22:11 > 0:22:15- My name is... - Names is for tombstones, baby.

0:22:15 > 0:22:17Y'all take this honky out and waste him - now!

0:22:17 > 0:22:19I love this film, I love it.

0:22:19 > 0:22:21It turned into The Dukes Of Hazzard, really,

0:22:21 > 0:22:23- at the end, doesn't it?- Mm. Mm.

0:22:23 > 0:22:24- Which I feel is...- Well... Ha-ha!

0:22:28 > 0:22:30What are you?

0:22:30 > 0:22:33Some kind of Doomsday machine boy?

0:22:33 > 0:22:37Well, we got a cage strong enough to hold an animal like you here.

0:22:37 > 0:22:40- Captain, would you enlighten the sheriff, please?- Yes, sir.

0:22:40 > 0:22:44JW, let me have a word with you.

0:22:44 > 0:22:47JW, now, this fella's from London, England.

0:22:47 > 0:22:51He's an Englishman working in cooperation with our boys,

0:22:51 > 0:22:52sort of secret agent.

0:22:52 > 0:22:57- Secret agent?! On whose side?! - "Secret agent?! On whose side?!"

0:22:57 > 0:23:01The great Clifton James as Sheriff Waldo J Pepper.

0:23:01 > 0:23:05You can track the tone of the James Bond films

0:23:05 > 0:23:08- by how funny the innocent bystanders are.- Mm.

0:23:08 > 0:23:12Cos there's a period when Roger Moore is in his pomp

0:23:12 > 0:23:14when he can't do anything without, like,

0:23:14 > 0:23:15knocking the top off something

0:23:15 > 0:23:17and revealing a canoodling couple beneath.

0:23:17 > 0:23:20Or a man in a bath, or those sort of things.

0:23:20 > 0:23:23Once those conventions have been re-established, though,

0:23:23 > 0:23:26they're absolutely inescapable, aren't they?

0:23:26 > 0:23:29The dialogue has to follow the same kind of patterns,

0:23:29 > 0:23:31every death has to have a quip.

0:23:31 > 0:23:33Where's Fekkesh?

0:23:33 > 0:23:34Pyramids.

0:23:34 > 0:23:35Argh!

0:23:38 > 0:23:40What a helpful chap.

0:23:40 > 0:23:44Probably the most purely enjoyable, aren't they, the ones of that run?

0:23:44 > 0:23:48And Spy Who Loved Me is a massive, widescreen treat,

0:23:48 > 0:23:52beautifully made, great baddie,

0:23:52 > 0:23:56brilliant Barbara Bach

0:23:56 > 0:23:58as Agent XXX.

0:23:58 > 0:24:01It's kind of got everything, really. And it is a greatest-hits package

0:24:01 > 0:24:05but it sort of reboots Bond for the '70s with massive success.

0:24:29 > 0:24:30Egyptian builders.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33But actually, as ever,

0:24:33 > 0:24:36it's actually commerce that was the great dictator here.

0:24:36 > 0:24:40Because Spy was such a phenomenal worldwide success,

0:24:40 > 0:24:42then the template is absolutely iron-clad,

0:24:42 > 0:24:47so that Moonraker is a companion piece

0:24:47 > 0:24:49the way Thunderball is to Goldfinger.

0:24:49 > 0:24:52And so what you get is the principle of Spy Who Loved Me,

0:24:52 > 0:24:55but on an absolutely grandiose scale,

0:24:55 > 0:24:56which is ludicrous.

0:24:56 > 0:25:00- I love it.- Well, I think the first half-hour, you go,

0:25:00 > 0:25:03"Oh, they've done it again," cos it's terrific.

0:25:03 > 0:25:06But then it just becomes so country-hopping

0:25:06 > 0:25:09and so sort of flaccid - apart from Drax, who's wonderful, I think.

0:25:09 > 0:25:13Mr Bond, you defy all my attempts

0:25:13 > 0:25:15to plan an amusing death for you.

0:25:15 > 0:25:17You're not a sportsman, Mr Bond.

0:25:17 > 0:25:21Why did you break off the encounter with my pet python?

0:25:21 > 0:25:23I discovered he had a crush on me.

0:25:23 > 0:25:25It's a disappointing film, I think, for me.

0:25:25 > 0:25:27Ah! Well, I don't know.

0:25:27 > 0:25:30Any villain who has a master plan to kill everyone on the earth

0:25:30 > 0:25:32but then repopulate it

0:25:32 > 0:25:35with the dancers from Seaside Special gets my vote.

0:25:35 > 0:25:38That is actually explicitly the plan!

0:25:39 > 0:25:42First there was a dream.

0:25:42 > 0:25:43Now there is reality.

0:25:43 > 0:25:47Here, in the untainted cradle of the heavens,

0:25:47 > 0:25:51will be created a new super-race.

0:25:51 > 0:25:55A race of perfect physical specimens.

0:25:55 > 0:25:58No, it's one of those ones where it's a great plot

0:25:58 > 0:26:00and it's obviously self-indulgent.

0:26:00 > 0:26:03There is a kind of madness about it, isn't there?

0:26:03 > 0:26:05Which is probably most legible

0:26:05 > 0:26:09in the scene where the gondola turns into a hovercraft

0:26:09 > 0:26:11to the surprise of everybody.

0:26:23 > 0:26:26But mainly to the surprise of a pigeon

0:26:26 > 0:26:30whom the magic of editing forces into a double-take.

0:26:32 > 0:26:33You say magic...

0:26:39 > 0:26:43No, I think the double-taking pigeon is probably the moment

0:26:43 > 0:26:46where they become the James Bond comedies for a bit.

0:26:46 > 0:26:48There's a...

0:26:48 > 0:26:50We should talk, really, about Roger Moore's approach,

0:26:50 > 0:26:54because he always said, you know, "Sean approached it his way,

0:26:54 > 0:26:57"I approached it through the door marked 'Comedy'."

0:26:57 > 0:27:00And, actually, they're the two titanic bombs in that way,

0:27:00 > 0:27:02because they are...

0:27:02 > 0:27:06Roger Moore did the most and it was incredibly successful.

0:27:06 > 0:27:09That's why he actually did it far longer than he should have done,

0:27:09 > 0:27:10because people loved it.

0:27:10 > 0:27:14Possibly the thing that's never really talked about much with Roger

0:27:14 > 0:27:17is that he was always slightly too old.

0:27:17 > 0:27:20He's older than Connery and, you know, he looks great

0:27:20 > 0:27:25but he is a bit old for the part from the beginning.

0:27:25 > 0:27:27- Yes.- Which means that by the time we get to the end

0:27:27 > 0:27:29he's certainly too old!

0:27:29 > 0:27:31- ENGINE REVS - Oh! Commander Bond.

0:27:31 > 0:27:33Call me James.

0:27:33 > 0:27:35It's five days to Alaska.

0:27:35 > 0:27:37His final one was A View To A Kill.

0:27:37 > 0:27:43And I used to go and see the Bond films with the rest of my family,

0:27:43 > 0:27:45it was a big family tradition,

0:27:45 > 0:27:47and by the time we got to A View To A Kill,

0:27:47 > 0:27:50it was just me and my dad who were the last ones standing.

0:27:50 > 0:27:55And I remember distinctly there's a beautiful scene

0:27:55 > 0:27:58where Roger Moore and Patrick Macnee,

0:27:58 > 0:28:01both dressed 30 years too young

0:28:01 > 0:28:04in sort of suede bomber jackets, are creeping around.

0:28:04 > 0:28:08- Blousons.- Blousons, indeed! - It's worse than that.

0:28:08 > 0:28:11Creeping around Christopher Walken's French estate.

0:28:11 > 0:28:14And my dad leant over to me and said, "If the secret service

0:28:14 > 0:28:17"is in the hands of these buggers, God help us!"

0:28:17 > 0:28:21And I knew the writing was on the wall for Rog.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24But I watched it quite recently and I loved it.

0:28:24 > 0:28:27And I thought, if you watched this film

0:28:27 > 0:28:28not as a James Bond film

0:28:28 > 0:28:32but as a film about an elderly man who thinks he's a secret agent,

0:28:32 > 0:28:34it's absolutely charming!

0:28:34 > 0:28:37- Have you been interested in thoroughbreds long?- No, no.

0:28:37 > 0:28:40As a matter of fact I had a rather dotty old aunt die

0:28:40 > 0:28:41and leave me some stables,

0:28:41 > 0:28:44so I thought it might be rather fun to breed and race horses.

0:28:44 > 0:28:47I take it YOU ride.

0:28:47 > 0:28:49I'm happiest in the saddle.

0:28:49 > 0:28:51A fellow sportsman.

0:28:51 > 0:28:53What about fishing?

0:28:54 > 0:28:56Fly casting?

0:28:58 > 0:29:00I'm neglecting my other guests.

0:29:00 > 0:29:03Enjoy yourself, you'll find the young ladies stimulating company.

0:29:03 > 0:29:05I'm sure they are.

0:29:06 > 0:29:10Amazingly in parallel with the most modern thing you can imagine,

0:29:10 > 0:29:13which is Christopher Walken as the baddie

0:29:13 > 0:29:15and Grace Jones as May Day,

0:29:15 > 0:29:17who are almost aggressively youthful

0:29:17 > 0:29:19and sort of forward-thinking.

0:29:19 > 0:29:23Something about that ridiculous disconnection

0:29:23 > 0:29:25is what makes it brilliant.

0:29:25 > 0:29:30May Day is terrifying - Grace Jones of course utterly terrifying -

0:29:30 > 0:29:33and Bond goes to bed with her.

0:29:36 > 0:29:37May Day, where have you been?

0:29:37 > 0:29:40I've been waiting for you.

0:29:40 > 0:29:42To take care of me, personally.

0:29:57 > 0:30:00I see you're a woman of very few words.

0:30:03 > 0:30:04What's there to say?

0:30:04 > 0:30:08'He gets into bed, you thought, "I'm really worried about you."

0:30:08 > 0:30:11'I actually think both his hips may go at this stage.

0:30:12 > 0:30:15'I remember - this is something I'd forgotten -'

0:30:15 > 0:30:17I remember reading an interview with him

0:30:17 > 0:30:20on the set of Moonraker in Women's Weekly -

0:30:20 > 0:30:21or maybe Woman, my mum's magazine.

0:30:21 > 0:30:26And I was very disappointed, cos the interviewer says,

0:30:26 > 0:30:29"What's your favourite part?" and he says, "The part where I go home."

0:30:29 > 0:30:31And I remember being disappointed as a boy.

0:30:31 > 0:30:33Now I totally understand it!

0:30:33 > 0:30:37But, anyway, he kept threatening to go

0:30:37 > 0:30:41and, eventually, despite the fact that the world still adored him,

0:30:41 > 0:30:43he wisely packed it in.

0:30:43 > 0:30:46And so they, for the first in a long time,

0:30:46 > 0:30:48had to find a new one.

0:30:59 > 0:31:01It's all so boring here, Margo.

0:31:01 > 0:31:04There's nothing but playboys and tennis pros.

0:31:04 > 0:31:06If only I could find a real man.

0:31:06 > 0:31:08THUD!

0:31:13 > 0:31:14I need to use your phone.

0:31:14 > 0:31:16She'll call you back.

0:31:18 > 0:31:19Who are you?

0:31:19 > 0:31:21Bond. James Bond.

0:31:21 > 0:31:23Exercise Control 007 here.

0:31:23 > 0:31:25I'll report in an hour.

0:31:25 > 0:31:26Won't you join me?

0:31:29 > 0:31:31Better make that two.

0:31:31 > 0:31:34As a Bond fan, I was so fed up

0:31:34 > 0:31:37with the idea of this lethal spy

0:31:37 > 0:31:40being played by a geriatric comedian -

0:31:40 > 0:31:43this is by then.

0:31:43 > 0:31:46I welcomed this film like rain in the desert

0:31:46 > 0:31:49and I saw it three times in its opening week.

0:31:52 > 0:31:56And it's got this fantastic opening on the Rock of Gibraltar,

0:31:56 > 0:31:59with all these people who - unless you've read the pre-publicity -

0:31:59 > 0:32:01you think might be Bond.

0:32:01 > 0:32:05Yes, we get three candidates, don't we? They jump out of an aircraft.

0:32:05 > 0:32:07And you don't know who's which.

0:32:07 > 0:32:08And then...

0:32:08 > 0:32:11They could all just be delivering chocolates to some very lucky lady.

0:32:11 > 0:32:13They looked like nearly. Nearly Bonds.

0:32:13 > 0:32:16And then one of them gets his rope cut and falls to his death

0:32:16 > 0:32:19and then Tim Dalton turns like that -

0:32:19 > 0:32:21and he looks amazing!

0:32:21 > 0:32:22Argh!

0:32:26 > 0:32:28And suddenly we're back.

0:32:28 > 0:32:31There's a sense of him...

0:32:32 > 0:32:34..almost being a human being.

0:32:34 > 0:32:39Yeah. The whole idea behind Dalton's Bond is to...

0:32:39 > 0:32:43is to sort of humanise him again,

0:32:43 > 0:32:46take him back from being a sort of superhero.

0:32:46 > 0:32:50There's a kind of much more plausible -

0:32:50 > 0:32:53not entirely plausible - but much more plausible human quality to him.

0:32:53 > 0:32:55He also has this brilliant thing with his tux,

0:32:55 > 0:32:57- which is in both his films. - Yes!- It's his thing.

0:33:00 > 0:33:02Turn off the lights.

0:33:02 > 0:33:05'He pulls the collar across and it sort of...

0:33:05 > 0:33:07'It darkens him into sort of...'

0:33:07 > 0:33:09Milk Tray look - I love that.

0:33:09 > 0:33:12It's a very good film.

0:33:12 > 0:33:15Very good roles for the women,

0:33:15 > 0:33:20and the fact that he actually does appear to really fall for her,

0:33:20 > 0:33:21it's very touching.

0:33:21 > 0:33:23There's some really good stuff in it.

0:33:23 > 0:33:25SHE SHOUTS IN OWN LANGUAGE

0:33:28 > 0:33:30What's that supposed to mean?

0:33:30 > 0:33:32Back end of horse.

0:33:32 > 0:33:34You calling me a horse's arse?

0:33:34 > 0:33:37'It's interesting, because the women involved at times

0:33:37 > 0:33:41'are highly problematic figures, and the question'

0:33:41 > 0:33:43of how much we believe anything

0:33:43 > 0:33:46about what goes on between them is key, I think,

0:33:46 > 0:33:48because it often seems like

0:33:48 > 0:33:52part of this strange, slightly kind of lifeless ritual,

0:33:52 > 0:33:54going to bed, in a Bond film.

0:33:54 > 0:33:58They just seem to be doing it, often, for reasons of convention.

0:33:58 > 0:34:01The idea... The lust is all saved till the fight scene.

0:34:01 > 0:34:07Whereas, you know, the relationship with Kara in Living Daylights,

0:34:07 > 0:34:10she's a very unlikely Bond girl.

0:34:10 > 0:34:12She's very beautiful, very slight,

0:34:12 > 0:34:15and there's something rather touching about it.

0:34:15 > 0:34:19It's much more like a sort of Hitchcock romance.

0:34:19 > 0:34:21It's really affecting.

0:34:21 > 0:34:23- No more.- This one.

0:34:23 > 0:34:26The Living Daylights was a massive success.

0:34:26 > 0:34:28And I can still remember the clipping -

0:34:28 > 0:34:31"This is the Bond for the '90s", they said.

0:34:31 > 0:34:32And his performance, I think,

0:34:32 > 0:34:35has been neglected, underrated, over time,

0:34:35 > 0:34:37partly because of this...

0:34:37 > 0:34:40the apparent relief that people seemed to find

0:34:40 > 0:34:41when Pierce Brosnan came back

0:34:41 > 0:34:44and did something rather more traditional and conservative

0:34:44 > 0:34:46with the part.

0:34:46 > 0:34:48But, for me, his northern-ness

0:34:48 > 0:34:50is his ineluctably attractive quality.

0:34:50 > 0:34:52Yeah. I think he's terrific.

0:34:52 > 0:34:57Really, what you can say now is he's a sort of prototype Daniel Craig.

0:34:57 > 0:35:00It's sort of like the world was not quite prepared for him.

0:35:01 > 0:35:05Dalton registers the thousand natural shocks

0:35:05 > 0:35:07that flesh is heir to.

0:35:27 > 0:35:29You could have had everything.

0:35:29 > 0:35:30Don't you want to know why?

0:35:36 > 0:35:38Argh!

0:35:38 > 0:35:40HE SCREAMS

0:35:45 > 0:35:47And he also...

0:35:47 > 0:35:52Anything he says sounds immediately powerful and authoritative.

0:35:52 > 0:35:55His other most significant work in this period

0:35:55 > 0:35:59- was doing the voiceovers for... DALTON:- 'Brain's Faggots.'

0:35:59 > 0:36:03- And I think when he says.... DALTON:- 'Brain's Faggots.'

0:36:03 > 0:36:08..it's just as powerful as anything he has to say in Licence To Kill.

0:36:08 > 0:36:10Duck!

0:36:11 > 0:36:12We've nothing to declare!

0:36:12 > 0:36:14Just a cello!

0:36:16 > 0:36:18But then this weird thing happens -

0:36:18 > 0:36:19slight digression -

0:36:19 > 0:36:24the EON Productions, the Broccolis got involved in a court case

0:36:24 > 0:36:27about the TV screenings of the Bond films,

0:36:27 > 0:36:30which shut down production.

0:36:30 > 0:36:33And it took five, six years

0:36:33 > 0:36:35to sort out this court case.

0:36:35 > 0:36:39Then, when they realised they could make some more,

0:36:39 > 0:36:43they did offer it to Tim Dalton, and he said no,

0:36:43 > 0:36:46because he said, "That parade has passed by".

0:36:46 > 0:36:49So the search is on again.

0:36:52 > 0:36:54Thank you, Mr...?

0:36:54 > 0:36:55My name's Bond.

0:36:55 > 0:36:57James Bond.

0:36:57 > 0:36:59Xenia Sergeyevna Onatopp.

0:36:59 > 0:37:02Onatopp?

0:37:02 > 0:37:03Onatopp.

0:37:03 > 0:37:05He's a sort of Roger Connery.

0:37:05 > 0:37:10He handles the physical stuff brilliantly,

0:37:10 > 0:37:12he has a definite edge, but he's also...

0:37:12 > 0:37:15He's got a wonderfully Irish quality

0:37:15 > 0:37:17which, again, he wanted to bring to it.

0:37:17 > 0:37:19He thought, well, Connery was Scottish - why not?

0:37:19 > 0:37:21He has a sort of slightly more whimsical thing -

0:37:21 > 0:37:24he's great with the one-liners - and they sit quite well, I think.

0:37:47 > 0:37:49Beg your pardon - forgot to knock.

0:37:51 > 0:37:53Over his four films,

0:37:53 > 0:37:56it never quite gels, I think, for me,

0:37:56 > 0:37:59because it's always slightly not one thing or the other -

0:37:59 > 0:38:01he doesn't become his own man.

0:38:01 > 0:38:03It is, in many ways, designed by a committee.

0:38:03 > 0:38:05They give him his Aston Martin back.

0:38:07 > 0:38:10They give him the popularity of Moore's quips,

0:38:10 > 0:38:12they make it slightly sillier again.

0:38:14 > 0:38:17But then Tomorrow Never Dies and...

0:38:17 > 0:38:20The World Is Not Enough. You see, they sound like...

0:38:20 > 0:38:22The titles, too, sound...

0:38:22 > 0:38:24- Pastichey.- Exactly, yeah.

0:38:24 > 0:38:26I think they're a bit... Whoever made them up,

0:38:26 > 0:38:28they all sound a bit Never Say Never Again.

0:38:28 > 0:38:30Do you know, though - this is an interesting thing -

0:38:30 > 0:38:33Tomorrow Never Dies is only called that because of a misprint.

0:38:33 > 0:38:35"Diets", should it be?

0:38:35 > 0:38:39It's about a Murdoch-like...

0:38:39 > 0:38:42or, in fact, more Robert Maxwell maybe, at the time,

0:38:42 > 0:38:46and his newspaper is called Tomorrow.

0:38:46 > 0:38:49And it was called Tomorrow Never Lies, which makes sense.

0:38:49 > 0:38:51And they sent out a Xeroxed press release

0:38:51 > 0:38:54and it was misread and became...

0:38:54 > 0:38:57You know, it's a shame, because it's a much better title.

0:38:57 > 0:39:01That is a shame, but it also is... I think it's very revealing,

0:39:01 > 0:39:04because the meaninglessness of it all is what's...

0:39:04 > 0:39:06Nobody really cares what it means

0:39:06 > 0:39:10as long as it has certain kinds of qualities to it

0:39:10 > 0:39:11that are Bond-like.

0:39:11 > 0:39:14- Basically, you could call it Never Die Forever.- Exactly.

0:39:14 > 0:39:16There must be... I mean, surely online now

0:39:16 > 0:39:18there is a James Bond title generator.

0:39:18 > 0:39:22- Yes!- But it's a bit like there's a tombola of words

0:39:22 > 0:39:23- that are being plucked.- Oh, yeah.

0:39:23 > 0:39:27Which is why, actually, I think Never Say Never Again is quite a good one, because...

0:39:27 > 0:39:29It should have had three more "nevers" in it.

0:39:35 > 0:39:36The Brosnan films are...

0:39:37 > 0:39:40You cannot and you should not want to take away from the fact

0:39:40 > 0:39:44that they completely re-established Bond as a worldwide smash -

0:39:44 > 0:39:47they were huge, those films.

0:39:47 > 0:39:49But they don't bear up

0:39:49 > 0:39:53to repeated watching like some of the others do,

0:39:53 > 0:39:56and he, I think, remains the best thing in them.

0:39:56 > 0:39:59I'm giving you the opportunity to walk out with your life.

0:39:59 > 0:40:01Looking at our present situation

0:40:01 > 0:40:04strictly as a banker, I would have to say

0:40:04 > 0:40:06that numbers are not on your side.

0:40:07 > 0:40:10Perhaps you failed to take into account my...

0:40:10 > 0:40:12hidden assets.

0:40:22 > 0:40:24You seem to have had a small reversal of fortune.

0:40:24 > 0:40:27- Give me the name.- I can't tell you.

0:40:27 > 0:40:30They're rather like heritage projects of one sort or another.

0:40:30 > 0:40:35They're like a kind of pristine country-house version of Bond

0:40:35 > 0:40:38that you might need a membership card to get into,

0:40:38 > 0:40:41and that seems to say something of its moment, too.

0:40:41 > 0:40:44There's a faintly kind of...

0:40:44 > 0:40:48over-manicured, plasticky quality

0:40:48 > 0:40:50to the architecture of those films.

0:40:50 > 0:40:53By the time you get to Die Another Day,

0:40:53 > 0:40:57it's a very uneasy mixture of trying to be hard-edged

0:40:57 > 0:41:02and the loopiest sci-fi since You Only Live Twice -

0:41:02 > 0:41:03maybe even since Dr No.

0:41:03 > 0:41:04- Invisible cars.- Yeah.

0:41:37 > 0:41:39Come on. Where are you?

0:41:47 > 0:41:49All units report, now!

0:41:49 > 0:41:54So Die Another Day was perceived to be stupidly outlandish

0:41:54 > 0:41:57and then this odd thing happened,

0:41:57 > 0:42:00I think they just decided they needed a new Bond.

0:42:00 > 0:42:03They just didn't come back to Pierce Brosnan

0:42:03 > 0:42:05and so he had his four.

0:42:22 > 0:42:24The name's Bond.

0:42:24 > 0:42:26James Bond.

0:42:26 > 0:42:28Daniel Craig, um, was, uh...

0:42:28 > 0:42:32on the internet, at least -

0:42:32 > 0:42:35where else is there? - a very controversial choice.

0:42:35 > 0:42:38There was a campaign about it because he was too blond.

0:42:38 > 0:42:41Yeah, I know! Had they never seen a Roger Moore film?

0:42:41 > 0:42:45- Roger Moore is... Could even be ginger?- I would say he was sandy.

0:42:45 > 0:42:48- Sandy.- But by the end it's mysteriously very dark!

0:42:48 > 0:42:51Also the texture seems remarkably different, doesn't it,

0:42:51 > 0:42:53like it might have all come out of a can?

0:42:53 > 0:42:55I don't know why(!) Ludicrous things like that.

0:42:55 > 0:42:59Whereas Barbara Broccoli just saw him for who he is,

0:42:59 > 0:43:00which is a very fine actor

0:43:00 > 0:43:03and someone who would give it real sort of balls again.

0:43:07 > 0:43:10And I think, for me, of the three so far,

0:43:10 > 0:43:14Daniel Craig's Casino Royale is still the best.

0:43:14 > 0:43:18It's a very well-thought-through film.

0:43:18 > 0:43:22But it's a very lean screenplay. Again, it's simple.

0:43:22 > 0:43:24It takes the essence of the book,

0:43:24 > 0:43:28which is that Le Chiffre cannot afford to lose this game of cards

0:43:28 > 0:43:31and Bond must beat him - I mean, you've got it.

0:43:35 > 0:43:36Raise.

0:43:38 > 0:43:39Raise.

0:43:39 > 0:43:4112 million.

0:44:12 > 0:44:1414,500,000, all in.

0:44:14 > 0:44:17'It's just brilliantly tense.'

0:44:17 > 0:44:18It's got amazing fights.

0:44:18 > 0:44:21And as far as the character is concerned,

0:44:21 > 0:44:27the real departure here is that every punch hurts.

0:44:27 > 0:44:29All the bones are breakable

0:44:29 > 0:44:31and we feel them all with him.

0:44:31 > 0:44:34Ugh!

0:44:41 > 0:44:44Those fights, they're the most savage

0:44:44 > 0:44:47since Red Grant on the train in From Russia With Love, I think.

0:44:47 > 0:44:49And you enjoy them in

0:44:49 > 0:44:52a sort of slightly voyeuristic way

0:44:52 > 0:44:54for the sheer nastiness of them.

0:44:54 > 0:44:56I've always thought one of the appeals of Bond

0:44:56 > 0:44:59is we all want to believe there is someone like him

0:44:59 > 0:45:02who'll actually stop the world from being destroyed.

0:45:02 > 0:45:04And I think something about Daniel Craig's success

0:45:04 > 0:45:06is that you sort of feel like he's the man for now,

0:45:06 > 0:45:10and that sort of means that you believe in him

0:45:10 > 0:45:12much more as a fallible person,

0:45:12 > 0:45:14slightly psychotic person,

0:45:14 > 0:45:17but he's the right man in a tight corner.

0:45:17 > 0:45:20But that also means he's not Superman -

0:45:20 > 0:45:22he's going to have to...

0:45:22 > 0:45:25You know. And the obvious thing which I still can't quite...

0:45:25 > 0:45:28I remember thinking, "I can't believe they're going to do it -

0:45:28 > 0:45:29"they're going to do it!"

0:45:32 > 0:45:34They're going to do the scene,

0:45:34 > 0:45:35which is with a carpet-beater

0:45:35 > 0:45:37in the novel of Casino Royale.

0:45:37 > 0:45:41But they strap him to a chair with no seat, they rip the seat out,

0:45:41 > 0:45:44and they beat his bollocks with a knotted rope.

0:45:45 > 0:45:48Argh!

0:45:48 > 0:45:50It's one of the most terrifying things in all the films.

0:45:50 > 0:45:54It's incredible - no pun intended - that they had the balls to do it.

0:45:57 > 0:46:01I've got a little itch down there.

0:46:02 > 0:46:04Would you mind?

0:46:11 > 0:46:14Argh, no! No!

0:46:14 > 0:46:17'I remember, the audience that I saw it with,'

0:46:17 > 0:46:19I mean, there were shrieks from them.

0:46:19 > 0:46:22Because, you know, it's unimaginable.

0:46:22 > 0:46:25It's bad enough if you catch yourself getting out of a car.

0:46:27 > 0:46:28Give me the password

0:46:28 > 0:46:32and I'll at least let her live.

0:46:36 > 0:46:39Do it soon enough and she might even be in one piece.

0:46:42 > 0:46:45HE LAUGHS

0:46:45 > 0:46:50The other thing about it is that it discovers Bond's psychopathy

0:46:50 > 0:46:54which, in a way, has been the secret of this series of films all along.

0:46:54 > 0:46:59We've known somehow that to do all these things you must be mad,

0:46:59 > 0:47:03you must have a very weird view of other people,

0:47:03 > 0:47:05a view that's probably quite useful,

0:47:05 > 0:47:07and is useful, for people in the secret service

0:47:07 > 0:47:10who are dissociated from other people,

0:47:10 > 0:47:13people who lie all the time, who have to kill people

0:47:13 > 0:47:14and watch people die,

0:47:14 > 0:47:17who then have to go back home to their families or whoever.

0:47:17 > 0:47:20And, actually, it feels an incredible relief

0:47:20 > 0:47:23for that to be acknowledged in some way.

0:47:23 > 0:47:27There's that scene where Judi Dench says to him,

0:47:27 > 0:47:29"You better keep your distance,

0:47:29 > 0:47:32"you better not get too emotionally involved in this.

0:47:32 > 0:47:34"Not that that's ever been a problem for you."

0:47:38 > 0:47:41I would ask you if you could remain emotionally detached.

0:47:42 > 0:47:46But I don't think that's your problem, is it, Bond?

0:47:46 > 0:47:48No.

0:47:48 > 0:47:50There's this constant flirtation -

0:47:50 > 0:47:52they're going to sack him or he's going to resign

0:47:52 > 0:47:55because he's actually one job away from cracking.

0:47:55 > 0:47:57I think it's a very good film.

0:47:57 > 0:48:00Then, of course, they do it again, it's a misstep.

0:48:00 > 0:48:03It's a massively confident, clever film,

0:48:03 > 0:48:06followed too quickly by Quantum Of Solace.

0:48:06 > 0:48:09- Which Roger Moore could have done. - Well, it's an odd film.

0:48:09 > 0:48:12It was done very quickly

0:48:12 > 0:48:14and not polished.

0:48:14 > 0:48:17So it's 90 minutes long,

0:48:17 > 0:48:20which would've been the leanest Bond film ever, but it's actually...

0:48:20 > 0:48:24The fights and the violence have no narrative,

0:48:24 > 0:48:27you just watch - or you don't watch -

0:48:27 > 0:48:28this quite boring,

0:48:28 > 0:48:30absolutely baffling plot.

0:48:30 > 0:48:32And Daniel Craig has gone from being

0:48:32 > 0:48:36this tortured, slightly psychotic agent

0:48:36 > 0:48:38into a sort of grunt, I think.

0:48:39 > 0:48:40Agh!

0:48:42 > 0:48:43Ugh!

0:48:48 > 0:48:49Ugh!

0:48:49 > 0:48:52Argh!

0:48:54 > 0:48:58But let's tease out his gruntiness a bit,

0:48:58 > 0:49:01because that seems to me a departure, too,

0:49:01 > 0:49:03that he's the first actor who...

0:49:03 > 0:49:07He's got the least complicated hair of all of them,

0:49:07 > 0:49:11and also he's the one who's willing to uglify himself.

0:49:17 > 0:49:21The fact is he's very unconventionally good-looking.

0:49:21 > 0:49:24He's got a sort of ugly-pretty quality to him.

0:49:24 > 0:49:27He's got amazing eyes but he can look quite brutish.

0:49:27 > 0:49:30He's like somebody Genet would have liked, isn't he?

0:49:30 > 0:49:31Oh, definitely.

0:49:31 > 0:49:34It's no accident, when he comes out of the sea in those Speedos,

0:49:34 > 0:49:37that actually he became a very popular Bond

0:49:37 > 0:49:38with the entire audience.

0:49:38 > 0:49:42Because, you know, he looks incredible,

0:49:42 > 0:49:45but it sort of goes way back to Connery and the savagery, I think.

0:49:45 > 0:49:48Yeah, but Connery's suffering was never really important

0:49:48 > 0:49:50to the narrative.

0:49:50 > 0:49:53That, in a way, has become one of the subjects of these films.

0:49:53 > 0:49:55It must be symptomatic of our age.

0:49:55 > 0:49:57That's what we are demanding of Bond.

0:49:57 > 0:50:02And actually, he's become a much more plausible secret agent

0:50:02 > 0:50:03for our times.

0:50:03 > 0:50:05Now, that means...

0:50:05 > 0:50:08That doesn't mean we don't want him to look great in a tux,

0:50:08 > 0:50:12doesn't mean we don't want him to go skiing or...

0:50:12 > 0:50:15And yet there seems to be room in those fantasies now

0:50:15 > 0:50:18- for some pretty dark truths about ourselves as well.- Yes.

0:50:18 > 0:50:23I think you can look at the actual texture of Skyfall.

0:50:23 > 0:50:25The fact that...

0:50:25 > 0:50:29One of Skyfall's great successes is it's such a London film.

0:50:29 > 0:50:32It sort of uses London in the way that it's so rarely been done,

0:50:32 > 0:50:36apart from top-and-tailing Big Ben and a red bus for universal exports.

0:50:36 > 0:50:37But to actually...

0:50:37 > 0:50:41You know, when M and Bill Tanner are driving back

0:50:41 > 0:50:45and MI6 explodes, it's a grey London day.

0:50:45 > 0:50:47SIRENS WAIL

0:50:56 > 0:50:58Oh.

0:50:58 > 0:50:59For God's sake!

0:51:01 > 0:51:03Just get out of the way.

0:51:03 > 0:51:05- Don't you recognise the car? - Madam...

0:51:13 > 0:51:16It's rather lovely, that.

0:51:16 > 0:51:20That's a Tube we could get on. It's good, that.

0:51:43 > 0:51:47This is a Bond we, with just a little bit of a push sideways,

0:51:47 > 0:51:51might believe is out there trying to keep the British end up.

0:51:51 > 0:51:53Or perhaps the founding fantasies

0:51:53 > 0:51:56of what this series is about have shifted.

0:51:56 > 0:51:58Right at the beginning,

0:51:58 > 0:52:03it was clearly satisfying a sense of Britain being decolonising,

0:52:03 > 0:52:06being slightly down-at-heel, losing its place,

0:52:06 > 0:52:10losing its influence in the world everywhere,

0:52:10 > 0:52:12except in the strange dream world of James Bond.

0:52:12 > 0:52:14I don't know...

0:52:14 > 0:52:17We're in a sort of Edward Snowden, Julian Assange world.

0:52:17 > 0:52:21And what if Julian Assange wasn't Julian Assange -

0:52:21 > 0:52:26a rather strange and flawed and muddled individual -

0:52:26 > 0:52:28but a Bond villain with a plan,

0:52:28 > 0:52:33with that strange hair and with some clear-cut motives?

0:52:33 > 0:52:36I'm afraid that is exactly the truth!

0:52:41 > 0:52:44He's absolutely a Bond villain in waiting, isn't he?

0:52:44 > 0:52:48- Funny hair, funny accent...- I do hope he's got an underground base.

0:52:48 > 0:52:53I think he has a treadmill instead, doesn't he?

0:52:53 > 0:52:57He's hollowed out the Uruguay Embassy, much to their distaste.

0:52:57 > 0:53:02I think he's planning to divert the Thames into the earth's molten core.

0:53:02 > 0:53:03It's been done.

0:53:08 > 0:53:11So, Matthew, who's the best James Bond in the world?

0:53:11 > 0:53:12Who would win?

0:53:12 > 0:53:15The best James Bond? In a fight between...

0:53:15 > 0:53:16In a fight between...

0:53:16 > 0:53:19In a fight between George Lazenby and all the others...

0:53:19 > 0:53:20Timothy Dalton.

0:53:20 > 0:53:23The complexity, the edge,

0:53:23 > 0:53:26the brutality of Timothy Dalton.

0:53:26 > 0:53:29I think I'm getting a little of that here, actually.

0:53:29 > 0:53:30The connoisseur's Bond.

0:53:30 > 0:53:33Well, as you know, I'm a huge fan of Tim Dalton,

0:53:33 > 0:53:36but I've got to go for Sean Connery in the end.

0:53:36 > 0:53:40There's only one...in the end.

0:53:41 > 0:53:44Nobody does it better - even though it's a Roger Moore...

0:53:44 > 0:53:46- A Roger Moore song!- This never happened to the other guy.- Ha!

0:53:53 > 0:53:55Argh!

0:53:59 > 0:54:03JAMES BOND THEME PLAYS