0:00:02 > 0:00:09This programme contains strong language.
0:00:15 > 0:00:18APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:00:25 > 0:00:27All the way from Hereford...
0:00:27 > 0:00:30CHEERING
0:00:30 > 0:00:33..Martin Chambers. I've been with him for over 30 years.
0:00:33 > 0:00:34What about that?
0:00:34 > 0:00:37CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:00:39 > 0:00:40You only get 20 for murder!
0:01:08 > 0:01:10# What am I going to do today?
0:01:13 > 0:01:18# Go to the newsstand Check out the war zone
0:01:18 > 0:01:20# And read the lists and see what's good on
0:01:20 > 0:01:24# Oh, there's one I've been wanting to see... #
0:01:24 > 0:01:26Anyone here up for a movie? I am!
0:01:29 > 0:01:31# Nobody tells me I can't
0:01:33 > 0:01:35# Nobody tells me I shan't
0:01:37 > 0:01:39# No-one to say, "You're doing it wrong"
0:01:41 > 0:01:45# I'm at my best I'm where I belong, alone
0:01:47 > 0:01:50# Hey! Yeah, I like it
0:02:00 > 0:02:01# Now I'm down on the street
0:02:01 > 0:02:05# Making out with the poets and the Greeks and the deadbeats
0:02:05 > 0:02:07# I'm taking my time sitting on park benches
0:02:07 > 0:02:10# And all the glamour It starts down here
0:02:10 > 0:02:14# This is where the trends begin Life's a canvas, and I'm on it
0:02:16 > 0:02:18# Nobody tells me I can't
0:02:19 > 0:02:22# Nobody tells me I shan't
0:02:23 > 0:02:27# No-one to say, "You're doing it wrong"
0:02:27 > 0:02:32# I'm at my best I'm where I belong, alone
0:02:32 > 0:02:34# Yeah, I like it
0:02:34 > 0:02:36# I like being alone. #
0:02:37 > 0:02:41'All songs are written on basically the same events,
0:02:41 > 0:02:44'which is usually just human relationships.'
0:02:44 > 0:02:47You broke my heart, I broke your heart.
0:02:47 > 0:02:50I'm alone, I'm so miserable being alone.
0:02:50 > 0:02:52I met you, now I feel good.
0:02:52 > 0:02:55I just want to be with you, let's waste some time together.
0:02:55 > 0:02:58I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
0:02:58 > 0:03:02Oh, no, you've left me. I can't believe I'm alone again.
0:03:04 > 0:03:07If only, oh, I saw someone today.
0:03:07 > 0:03:10He was a stranger but my heart was full of joy.
0:03:10 > 0:03:15And, you know, it just goes on, and on, and on, you know.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17You know, it's just.. You know.
0:03:17 > 0:03:18After a while, it's like...
0:03:20 > 0:03:21But it's always relevant.
0:03:23 > 0:03:28And then, when I thought about it, I've never heard another song
0:03:28 > 0:03:30that celebrates that it's fun to be on your own.
0:03:30 > 0:03:33I still can't think of one.
0:03:33 > 0:03:35Maybe cos it's crap to be on your own.
0:03:46 > 0:03:48'What my friend Marie says is
0:03:48 > 0:03:52'she's never alone because she's always got herself.
0:03:52 > 0:03:53'That's a great attitude.'
0:03:53 > 0:03:56ACCORDION PLAYS
0:04:10 > 0:04:12He's with you?
0:04:17 > 0:04:20Go. Go.
0:04:21 > 0:04:24Ask me the question you want to know, and you've never asked.
0:04:24 > 0:04:28I have an answer for everything. Important. Not bullshit.
0:04:30 > 0:04:32Um, hm.
0:04:34 > 0:04:35I'm thinking.
0:04:36 > 0:04:38You must have some questions.
0:04:51 > 0:04:53I guess I don't.
0:04:53 > 0:04:54HE SNORTS
0:04:57 > 0:05:02You know how many times did you come to this Earth?
0:05:03 > 0:05:06- What do you think? - What do I think?- Yeah.
0:05:06 > 0:05:09- What do you think? - About 8,400,000.- No.
0:05:09 > 0:05:12Don't bullshitting me. Speak serious.
0:05:12 > 0:05:14I'm asking you a serious question.
0:05:14 > 0:05:18- I can only guess.- OK.
0:05:18 > 0:05:20- So you don't know, I tell you. - All right.
0:05:20 > 0:05:221,000 times. Around 1,000.
0:05:22 > 0:05:26- 1,000 times?- Yes.- No way. - Each of us, yes.- No way.
0:05:26 > 0:05:30- Yeah, yeah. - Much more than that.- No.
0:05:30 > 0:05:32- You think I'm bullshitting you?- I don't think you're bullshitting me.
0:05:32 > 0:05:34- But I think you're wrong. - No, I'm not wrong.
0:05:34 > 0:05:38- I think you think you're right. - No, no. I don't think, I know.
0:05:38 > 0:05:40- OK, well, then you're definitely wrong.- No.
0:05:40 > 0:05:42That's the difference between me and you.
0:05:42 > 0:05:44You think. I know.
0:05:46 > 0:05:50I'm living astro and physical, in the same time.
0:05:53 > 0:05:57Shit, that's sweet. Huh? It's good, huh?
0:05:57 > 0:05:59JC Maxim.
0:05:59 > 0:06:02JC, like Jesus Christ Superstar.
0:06:02 > 0:06:06Yeah, man. That's good. I knew it's going to be good. I knew it.
0:06:11 > 0:06:14- I like it. - Of course you like it.- Uh-huh.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16I like the fact I look eight.
0:06:16 > 0:06:18He knows he's a phoney.
0:06:19 > 0:06:23Anyone would know that who was doing that.
0:06:23 > 0:06:24He's just a con artist.
0:06:24 > 0:06:26I like a con.
0:06:26 > 0:06:29I don't like to be conned, but I appreciate it if I am.
0:06:29 > 0:06:35You know, I have to think, touche, if someone has a good con.
0:06:35 > 0:06:38And I've been conned before, of course, many times.
0:06:41 > 0:06:45- INTERVIEWER:- I can't imagine you conning others, though, really.
0:06:47 > 0:06:49Well, I conned you guys!
0:06:49 > 0:06:51SHE LAUGHS
0:07:08 > 0:07:11# Nobody tells me I can't
0:07:12 > 0:07:14# Nobody tells me I shan't
0:07:16 > 0:07:19# No-one to say, "You're doing it wrong"
0:07:19 > 0:07:24# I'm at my best I'm where I belong, alone. #
0:07:35 > 0:07:37IN FRENCH:
0:07:37 > 0:07:39OK, OK. Oui.
0:07:39 > 0:07:40Non, franchement, c'est pas...
0:07:49 > 0:07:51Franchement...
0:07:56 > 0:07:58Oui. Super.
0:07:58 > 0:08:00'Once in a while, you meet someone
0:08:00 > 0:08:02'who's really in charge of their looks.'
0:08:02 > 0:08:03The New York Dolls.
0:08:03 > 0:08:07David Johansen, immaculate. Johnny Thunders, immaculate.
0:08:07 > 0:08:10Charlie Sexton who used to play with Bob Dylan. Immaculate.
0:08:10 > 0:08:13Dylan, a very stylish guy.
0:08:13 > 0:08:15He really pays attention to what...
0:08:15 > 0:08:18He's really careful about his image, you know.
0:08:18 > 0:08:22And people that are careful about looking like they don't care.
0:08:22 > 0:08:24They even have to have another level of caring
0:08:24 > 0:08:26to make it look like they don't care.
0:08:26 > 0:08:30That... You know, that it's casual and that it just comes naturally.
0:08:30 > 0:08:33But, you know, it's such an important part of music.
0:08:33 > 0:08:34IN FRENCH:
0:08:37 > 0:08:41'Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Maria Callas.
0:08:41 > 0:08:44'It was all about obsessively trying to be glamorous
0:08:44 > 0:08:46'and presenting something to the world.
0:08:46 > 0:08:48'Of course it's important.
0:08:48 > 0:08:51'Amy Winehouse. Any of the greats.'
0:08:51 > 0:08:54None of them looked like bums, from Hendrix to...
0:08:54 > 0:08:58You can't look like a bum. You can't.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01Actors do - that's why they need stylists.
0:09:01 > 0:09:03But in a band, you can't do that.
0:09:03 > 0:09:06You have to be who you are on the street and when you're on stage.
0:09:06 > 0:09:08You can't change.
0:09:08 > 0:09:10Being in rock 'n' roll, it's not about changing,
0:09:10 > 0:09:13it's about being yourself all the time.
0:09:16 > 0:09:17HE SPEAKS FRENCH
0:09:17 > 0:09:19OK. Super.
0:09:32 > 0:09:35OK. No, no, I don't want anything. I don't want anything.
0:09:37 > 0:09:40MUSIC: Brass In Pocket by The Pretenders
0:09:40 > 0:09:41'# Got brass
0:09:41 > 0:09:44'# In pocket
0:09:44 > 0:09:46'# Got bottle
0:09:46 > 0:09:48'# I'm gonna use it
0:09:48 > 0:09:53'# Intention I feel inventive'
0:09:53 > 0:09:58# Gonna make you, make you Make you notice
0:09:58 > 0:10:03# Got motion Restrained emotion
0:10:03 > 0:10:08# Been driving Detroit leaning
0:10:08 > 0:10:12# No reason Just seems so pleasing
0:10:12 > 0:10:18# Gonna make you, make you Make you notice
0:10:18 > 0:10:20# Gonna use my arms
0:10:20 > 0:10:23# Gonna use my legs
0:10:23 > 0:10:25# Gonna use my style
0:10:25 > 0:10:27# Gonna use my sidestep
0:10:27 > 0:10:30# Gonna use my fingers
0:10:30 > 0:10:35# Gonna use my, my My imagination
0:10:35 > 0:10:40# Oh, cos I gonna make you see
0:10:40 > 0:10:45# There's nobody else here No-one like me
0:10:45 > 0:10:46# I'm special
0:10:46 > 0:10:47# Special
0:10:47 > 0:10:49# So special
0:10:49 > 0:10:50# Special
0:10:50 > 0:10:53# I gotta have some of your attention
0:10:53 > 0:10:55# Give it to me
0:10:57 > 0:10:58# Got rhythm
0:10:58 > 0:11:01# I can't miss a beat
0:11:01 > 0:11:03# Got new skank
0:11:03 > 0:11:06# So reet... #
0:11:06 > 0:11:08- INTERVIEWER:- Where did you get the T-shirt?
0:11:08 > 0:11:10When I got here, I forgot to bring any shirts,
0:11:10 > 0:11:13so I just went and got a stack of Paris shirts.
0:11:13 > 0:11:17I look like a tourist, so sue me!
0:11:17 > 0:11:19You know, what are you going to do about it?
0:11:29 > 0:11:33MUSIC: Precious by The Pretenders
0:11:40 > 0:11:43# I like the way you cross the street
0:11:43 > 0:11:46# Cos you're precious
0:11:46 > 0:11:50# Moving through the Cleveland heat How precious
0:11:51 > 0:11:56# Taking rides and all the kicks was so precious
0:11:56 > 0:12:01# But you know I was shittin' bricks cos I'm precious
0:12:03 > 0:12:04# Made me wanna
0:12:05 > 0:12:07# Made me wanna
0:12:08 > 0:12:11# You made me make it Oh. #
0:12:19 > 0:12:21'I'm here, kids.
0:12:21 > 0:12:23'I'll stand by you.
0:12:24 > 0:12:28'# I'll stand by you
0:12:28 > 0:12:32'# I'll stand by you
0:12:32 > 0:12:35'# Won't hurt you
0:12:35 > 0:12:40'# Stand by you, yeah'
0:12:40 > 0:12:43# Darkest hour
0:12:43 > 0:12:47# You...know I'll stand by you
0:12:47 > 0:12:51# I'll stand by you
0:12:51 > 0:12:54- AUDIENCE:- # I'll stand by you
0:12:54 > 0:12:58# Won't let nobody hurt you
0:12:58 > 0:13:01# I'll stand by you
0:13:05 > 0:13:09# If you're mad, get mad
0:13:09 > 0:13:13# Don't hold it all inside
0:13:13 > 0:13:17# Come on and talk to me now
0:13:18 > 0:13:23# Hey, what you got to hide?
0:13:24 > 0:13:26# I get angry too
0:13:27 > 0:13:32# Well, I'm a lot like you
0:13:32 > 0:13:35# When you're standing at the crossroads
0:13:35 > 0:13:39# And don't know which path to choose
0:13:39 > 0:13:42# Let me come along
0:13:42 > 0:13:44# Cos even if you're wrong
0:13:46 > 0:13:48# I'll stand by you
0:13:49 > 0:13:52# I'll stand by you
0:13:52 > 0:13:55# You...
0:13:55 > 0:13:59# Stand by you, stand by you
0:13:59 > 0:14:03# Whoo, I'll stand by you
0:14:03 > 0:14:08# I'll stand I'll stand by you. #
0:14:08 > 0:14:12Here I am, I'm back, in Sandyland.
0:14:12 > 0:14:14# Won't let nobody hurt you. #
0:14:14 > 0:14:17- Ah!- Ah, look at that.
0:14:17 > 0:14:19Tail wagging furiously.
0:14:19 > 0:14:23- Hello.- Baby.- Aw!
0:14:23 > 0:14:26Finally, so you're on the show now, live, instead of...
0:14:26 > 0:14:28- Love the jacket.- Thank you.
0:14:28 > 0:14:31Always... Ooh, look at you in that fabulous shoe!
0:14:31 > 0:14:35- Yeah, let's get superficial. Let's start on the clothes.- I know, but...
0:14:35 > 0:14:38- Yeah, I...- I mean, we're going to get heavy and intense, so...
0:14:38 > 0:14:41- Of course we are.- ..can we just say for a minute, you look good?
0:14:41 > 0:14:42You do, too.
0:14:42 > 0:14:44'This is Sandyland, with Sandy Bernhard.'
0:14:44 > 0:14:47- We're here live and you can feel the tension.- Yeah, you can feel...
0:14:47 > 0:14:49- The excitement.- ..the magic.- Yeah.
0:14:49 > 0:14:52- The fizzy... - The sparks, the sparks are flying.
0:14:52 > 0:14:54You're back to a more classic Chrissie cut.
0:14:54 > 0:14:56How did that haircut first come about?
0:14:56 > 0:14:59Did you do it to yourself or did somebody do it?
0:14:59 > 0:15:02Yeah, I did to myself. No-one did it back then.
0:15:02 > 0:15:06What was your hair like before it turned into the classic Chrissie?
0:15:06 > 0:15:08Uh, pretty much the same.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11I think if you shaved your head and let it grow out, you'd have this.
0:15:11 > 0:15:14- Was your hair ever long growing up? - Yeah.
0:15:14 > 0:15:17Your hair only gets so long before it falls out - did you know that?
0:15:17 > 0:15:20- Yeah.- That's how it works.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23Thank God, because it's nature protecting you from being a witch.
0:15:23 > 0:15:26- But some people's hair goes right down to their knees.- I know.
0:15:26 > 0:15:28Mine would only get to about shoulder length.
0:15:28 > 0:15:31- Back in the hippie days... - My hair was longer then.
0:15:31 > 0:15:34But I was so much older then!
0:15:34 > 0:15:36- Are you still in Maida Vale?- Yeah.
0:15:36 > 0:15:38- Is it a small place you got for yourself?- It's small.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41I got a place where I can paint. You know me - I live alone.
0:15:41 > 0:15:43I'm a lone, hungry, irritable wolf.
0:15:43 > 0:15:45But I thought you lived with the kids?
0:15:45 > 0:15:47No, I moved out of the house.
0:15:47 > 0:15:52You... Chrissie, you are a true Buddhist nomad.
0:15:52 > 0:15:54I'm a recluse is what I am.
0:16:16 > 0:16:19England's at its best when it's a bit wet.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22Doesn't look right in the bright sunlight
0:16:22 > 0:16:26although, on a day when the sky is high and it's a balmy, sunny day,
0:16:26 > 0:16:28it's the best.
0:16:33 > 0:16:35But you need a lot of this to make that look.
0:16:35 > 0:16:39- INTERVIEWER:- Do you think... Are you definitely urban? Are you urban?
0:16:40 > 0:16:43Um. Yeah, I think I am.
0:16:44 > 0:16:47But, because I'm a little bit of a loner,
0:16:47 > 0:16:51I would have liked to have maybe had a family out in the country -
0:16:51 > 0:16:52that would be great.
0:16:52 > 0:16:55But that would have needed a male counterpart to do all that.
0:16:55 > 0:16:57I couldn't do that on my own without a team.
0:16:57 > 0:17:00And I've generally been more...
0:17:02 > 0:17:04..you know, on my own doing stuff.
0:17:04 > 0:17:06So I wouldn't move out to the country now.
0:17:06 > 0:17:08I'd just be sitting there in a field, like,
0:17:08 > 0:17:10"What the fuck am I doing here?"
0:17:10 > 0:17:13You know, but if I had a team,
0:17:13 > 0:17:15I could have some dogs and stuff but...
0:17:16 > 0:17:18So, I don't really think about it.
0:17:18 > 0:17:22But when I get out in the country, it's... I think about it,
0:17:22 > 0:17:25and it's what I would have assumed I'd be doing when I was a child,
0:17:25 > 0:17:27because I wanted to be in the country around animals
0:17:27 > 0:17:29and it just never happened.
0:17:29 > 0:17:31I love cities.
0:17:35 > 0:17:39In fact, I've been in places out in the country
0:17:39 > 0:17:41and they're near a motorway,
0:17:41 > 0:17:46and you hear that awful sound, that nee-ow, that sound of a car going,
0:17:46 > 0:17:49and you're like, well, you know, it's quieter here.
0:17:49 > 0:17:53I don't hear anything at night. That's what I like, is quiet.
0:17:53 > 0:17:56Quiet, trees, birds.
0:17:56 > 0:18:00MUSIC: Stepping Razor by Peter Tosh
0:18:10 > 0:18:13# If you wanna live
0:18:14 > 0:18:17# Treat me good
0:18:18 > 0:18:22# If you wanna live, live
0:18:22 > 0:18:24# I beg you, treat me good
0:18:25 > 0:18:28# I'm like a walking razor
0:18:28 > 0:18:29# Don't you watch my size
0:18:29 > 0:18:33# I'm dangerous Said I'm dangerous
0:18:33 > 0:18:37# I'm like a walking razor Don't you watch my size
0:18:37 > 0:18:40# I'm dangerous Dangerous. #
0:18:41 > 0:18:46At the end of last year, that's when I began.
0:18:46 > 0:18:50So I did this pot, which is a favourite pot of mine.
0:18:50 > 0:18:55It sort of kick-started this thing I've been doing.
0:18:55 > 0:18:58I like to choose colours that I'm not necessarily that fond of.
0:18:58 > 0:19:00You see a lot of yellow here.
0:19:00 > 0:19:05I think yellow is a colour people get into when they become old.
0:19:05 > 0:19:07So I've tried to embrace that.
0:19:07 > 0:19:09What I want to do with my music and my paintings
0:19:09 > 0:19:13is just cheer people up. I'm not trying to disturb anyone.
0:19:13 > 0:19:16I think modern art can be disturbing. I'm already disturbed.
0:19:16 > 0:19:20So I don't need to add that, incorporate any more of that.
0:19:20 > 0:19:24Then I went away for about... For some time, ten days.
0:19:24 > 0:19:26That's when I came back and thought,
0:19:26 > 0:19:28"Oh, I wonder if I can still paint."
0:19:28 > 0:19:31You always think that, if you write a song or do anything -
0:19:31 > 0:19:34that's what I find, anyway. And other people have said that.
0:19:34 > 0:19:36You think you've done it and you'll never be able to do it again.
0:19:36 > 0:19:40So you panic into the next one to see if you can still do it.
0:19:40 > 0:19:42So I did that one.
0:19:42 > 0:19:45I think that's one of my more successful, if I do say so.
0:19:45 > 0:19:49Then I thought, some abstracts.
0:19:49 > 0:19:53So I thought, "Well, that's something I've never done."
0:19:53 > 0:19:55Oh, can you move around there?
0:19:55 > 0:19:57So I did that one.
0:19:58 > 0:20:00That one.
0:20:01 > 0:20:03This one's called West London.
0:20:05 > 0:20:07Not one of mine!
0:20:07 > 0:20:08SHE GIGGLES
0:20:09 > 0:20:14And then, one night, I thought, "I've got to stop painting.
0:20:14 > 0:20:16"This is becoming, like. too compulsive."
0:20:23 > 0:20:27Oh, I couldn't have done this when I was living with people.
0:20:29 > 0:20:31Cos your whole morning when you get started,
0:20:31 > 0:20:36you're, you know, taking someone tea or, you know.
0:20:38 > 0:20:40I think being alone is a huge luxury.
0:20:40 > 0:20:45And it's an epidemic of sorrow for millions of people too.
0:20:45 > 0:20:48And that's kind of what my meditations take me around to,
0:20:48 > 0:20:50is try to address this thing of loneliness,
0:20:50 > 0:20:54and, you know, what that really means in a person's life.
0:20:54 > 0:20:56Why are we lonely?
0:20:56 > 0:20:58You can be distracted from it, but when you're really alone,
0:20:58 > 0:21:00you have to start to face that.
0:21:00 > 0:21:03I don't know if that's necess... You don't want to over-face it.
0:21:03 > 0:21:11Like I say, it's a luxury to have the time to do these meditations.
0:21:11 > 0:21:13But now I'm in the more later stages of my life,
0:21:13 > 0:21:16and I think that's an important thing to do.
0:21:22 > 0:21:25MUSIC: Private Life by The Pretenders
0:21:44 > 0:21:48# Your private life drama, baby Leave me out
0:21:51 > 0:21:55# Your private life drama, baby Leave me out
0:22:00 > 0:22:03# Your private life drama, baby Leave me out
0:22:07 > 0:22:11# Your private life drama, baby Leave me out
0:22:16 > 0:22:18# J'ai les glandes with your theatrics
0:22:18 > 0:22:20# Your acting's a drag
0:22:24 > 0:22:27# It's OK on TV cos you can turn it off
0:22:27 > 0:22:28# But don't try me
0:22:32 > 0:22:34# Yes, your marriage is a tragedy
0:22:34 > 0:22:35# But it's not my concern
0:22:39 > 0:22:43# I'm very superficial I hate anything official
0:22:47 > 0:22:52# Your private life drama, baby Leave me out
0:22:56 > 0:22:59# Your private life drama, baby Leave me out
0:23:04 > 0:23:08# Your private life drama, baby Leave me out
0:23:12 > 0:23:15# Your private life drama, baby Leave me out
0:23:36 > 0:23:40# Your sentimental gestures only bore me to death
0:23:44 > 0:23:48# You've made a desperate appeal Now save your breath
0:23:52 > 0:23:55# Attachment to obligation through guilt and regret
0:23:55 > 0:23:57# Shit, that's so wet
0:24:00 > 0:24:04# And your sex-life complications are not my fascinations
0:24:08 > 0:24:12# Private life drama, baby Leave me out... #
0:24:17 > 0:24:20- INTERVIEWER:- Now, I have been surprised over this summer
0:24:20 > 0:24:25that you believe in rock and are a rock... You are a rock...
0:24:25 > 0:24:28Did you want to say "rock chick", but you didn't want to say "chick"?
0:24:28 > 0:24:31Cos I might have a go at you? REPORTER LAUGHS
0:24:31 > 0:24:33What do you think of that phrase, "rock chick"?
0:24:33 > 0:24:36Rock chick? I don't care.
0:24:43 > 0:24:45Not everyone was a rock chick. Not everyone else...
0:24:45 > 0:24:48You know, not everyone gets to be a rock chick.
0:24:48 > 0:24:51SONG: Whatcha Gonna Do 'Bout It
0:24:55 > 0:24:59- What's a guy? A rocker.- Yeah. - What's wrong with that?
0:25:03 > 0:25:05- Nothing?- Yeah, no, I'm just asking.
0:25:05 > 0:25:10I don't know if... This language, question of language these days.
0:25:34 > 0:25:37# Want you to know that I love you, baby
0:25:37 > 0:25:39# Want you to know that I care
0:25:39 > 0:25:45# I'm so happy when you're with me and I'm sad when you're not there
0:25:45 > 0:25:46# Boys
0:25:46 > 0:25:48# What you gonna do about it?
0:25:48 > 0:25:51- # Whoa-oh-oh - What you gonna do about it?
0:25:51 > 0:25:55- # Yeah - What you gonna do about it?
0:25:55 > 0:25:58# What you gonna do about it?
0:25:58 > 0:26:01# Want you to give me your sweet, sweet kisses
0:26:01 > 0:26:03# Want you to hold me tight
0:26:03 > 0:26:07# I want you to come whenever I call you
0:26:07 > 0:26:10# Want you to walk me home tonight
0:26:10 > 0:26:13# What you gonna do about it?
0:26:13 > 0:26:15# What you gonna do about it?
0:26:15 > 0:26:16# Well
0:26:16 > 0:26:19- # What you gonna do about it? - Whatcha gonna give me?
0:26:19 > 0:26:21# What you gonna do about it? #
0:26:54 > 0:26:55Yeah, I was...
0:26:57 > 0:26:59..sent by the NME to meet... To do...
0:26:59 > 0:27:01There was some sort of feminist forum or something.
0:27:01 > 0:27:05This was ages ago, like 1973. 1974, maybe.
0:27:05 > 0:27:07And so I was the...
0:27:07 > 0:27:10Maybe I was the only chick on the force, I can't remember.
0:27:10 > 0:27:12They sent me.
0:27:12 > 0:27:16And so this American woman asked me if I was a feminist,
0:27:16 > 0:27:20and I said, "I don't know."
0:27:20 > 0:27:24And she goes... That already put her nose out of joint cos I wasn't...
0:27:24 > 0:27:25I didn't know if I was or not.
0:27:25 > 0:27:27So she started questioning me
0:27:27 > 0:27:29to, you know,
0:27:29 > 0:27:32encourage me to admit that I was a feminist, I guess,
0:27:32 > 0:27:36I don't know. I actually didn't know what it meant exactly, so I was...
0:27:36 > 0:27:38I wasn't trying to be cantankerous or anything.
0:27:38 > 0:27:40Um...
0:27:40 > 0:27:45And she said, "Well, let's say that you want to get a credit card,"
0:27:45 > 0:27:47and I said, "I don't want a credit card."
0:27:47 > 0:27:50She said, "All right, well, let me...
0:27:50 > 0:27:53"What about if you wanted to buy a car?"
0:27:53 > 0:27:56I said, "I don't want to buy a car."
0:27:56 > 0:27:58She said...
0:27:58 > 0:28:01"All right, well, let's say that you want to get a house,
0:28:01 > 0:28:04"buy a house," and I said, "I don't want to get a house."
0:28:04 > 0:28:07And by now, I was only answering truthfully,
0:28:07 > 0:28:09but she was getting really kind of pissed off at me.
0:28:09 > 0:28:11She was older than me too, and she was a feminist.
0:28:11 > 0:28:16And she said, "Well, what if some other woman did want those things?"
0:28:16 > 0:28:18And I said, "Well, what's that got to do with me?"
0:28:18 > 0:28:21And she said, "Well, you are NOT a feminist."
0:28:21 > 0:28:23So, after that, I thought, "Well, if she's a leading feminist,
0:28:23 > 0:28:25"she must know." And I just assumed...
0:28:25 > 0:28:28She said I wasn't a feminist, I guess I wasn't a feminist.
0:28:31 > 0:28:34But you still haven't, you know, trotted down the party line,
0:28:34 > 0:28:36have you?
0:28:36 > 0:28:38I don't trot down any party line.
0:28:38 > 0:28:41Well, there's a few tyrannies around that are kind of
0:28:41 > 0:28:43winding me up.
0:28:43 > 0:28:46- Give me examples.- The vegan tyranny winds me up.- Meaning?
0:28:46 > 0:28:49- It's all become about nutrition. - Right.
0:28:49 > 0:28:51- I find that quite offensive. - But you feel like...?
0:28:51 > 0:28:53It's not about compassion any more.
0:28:53 > 0:28:57- I mean...- Yes.- As a matter of fact, to my vegan brethren,
0:28:57 > 0:29:01I am in practice vegan but in theory vegetarian.
0:29:01 > 0:29:02- Uh-huh.- They don't like that.
0:29:02 > 0:29:05- So you started to... - The feminists don't like me.
0:29:05 > 0:29:08The word "empowerment" also winds me up.
0:29:08 > 0:29:10- What is that all about? - Oh, honey, I don't know.
0:29:10 > 0:29:12"You've empowered me. I feel empowered."
0:29:12 > 0:29:14And I loathe the art world.
0:29:14 > 0:29:16- You don't have to.- The investment and all that bullshit.
0:29:16 > 0:29:18- Oh, investment! - Yeah, the whole thing.
0:29:18 > 0:29:19Well, it's just everything.
0:29:19 > 0:29:22- It's like curated, eating, food...- I hate everything.
0:29:22 > 0:29:24..art, everything has become, like...
0:29:24 > 0:29:27What is the endgame of this?
0:29:27 > 0:29:30Everyone defines themselves by what they like or what they... You know?
0:29:30 > 0:29:33- I don't give a fuck.- Yeah. - I just wish everyone would fuck off.
0:29:33 > 0:29:35SONG: Gotta Wait
0:29:46 > 0:29:47# You gotta wait
0:29:49 > 0:29:51# Think you belong?
0:29:52 > 0:29:54# You gotta wait
0:29:55 > 0:29:57# At the pharmacy at Walmart
0:29:59 > 0:30:01# You gotta wait
0:30:01 > 0:30:03# For an oxycontin come-down
0:30:04 > 0:30:06# You gotta wait
0:30:07 > 0:30:09# I'm loaded, could you bend down?
0:30:10 > 0:30:13# You gotta wait, wait Hold the date, hesitate
0:30:13 > 0:30:15# Wait Wait, wait
0:30:15 > 0:30:17# Don't be late Read the date
0:30:17 > 0:30:18# Wait Wait, wait
0:30:18 > 0:30:19# Save a plate Hold the date
0:30:19 > 0:30:20# Wait!
0:30:47 > 0:30:48# You gotta wait
0:30:50 > 0:30:51# And the waiting list is long
0:30:53 > 0:30:54# You gotta wait
0:30:55 > 0:30:57# Can you see where you belong?
0:30:59 > 0:31:01# You gotta wait
0:31:01 > 0:31:03# A hundred million faces
0:31:05 > 0:31:06# You gotta wait
0:31:07 > 0:31:10# You'll be going 200 places. #
0:31:13 > 0:31:16BIRDS CHIRP
0:31:34 > 0:31:36The wonderful thing about London
0:31:36 > 0:31:39is there's parks everywhere, all across London.
0:31:40 > 0:31:42Wherever you go, there's a park nearby.
0:31:44 > 0:31:47If you live here, you can do this -
0:31:47 > 0:31:51find all the moments when it's quiet and...
0:31:51 > 0:31:53You can make it really personal, London.
0:32:01 > 0:32:04There's this little island we can go on.
0:32:04 > 0:32:05Do you want to go on this little island?
0:32:15 > 0:32:16Look at this beauty here.
0:32:19 > 0:32:22SHE CLICKS TONGUE Come, come.
0:32:27 > 0:32:30Come on. Come on.
0:32:32 > 0:32:33Come.
0:32:38 > 0:32:42They say that swans are... They mate for life.
0:32:42 > 0:32:45Which is probably why they're so...
0:32:45 > 0:32:47supposedly, so ill-tempered.
0:32:48 > 0:32:50That's just me being cynical, though.
0:32:50 > 0:32:53It's hard not to be romantic - we're in the park.
0:32:53 > 0:32:57I try not to be romantic, but who can not be when you're here?
0:33:02 > 0:33:04I just got a strange look from that guy
0:33:04 > 0:33:06who thinks I'm talking to myself.
0:33:11 > 0:33:15We're right in the middle of the summer now.
0:33:15 > 0:33:19This is the summer solstice, the longest day of the year.
0:33:22 > 0:33:24This is where...
0:33:24 > 0:33:27lovers do come to go for a stroll.
0:33:29 > 0:33:31So all the roses here are named.
0:33:31 > 0:33:33These little plaques with their name.
0:33:33 > 0:33:37Majestic, these lovely pink ones.
0:33:37 > 0:33:40And these are called Remember Me.
0:33:42 > 0:33:45All the roses have romantic names.
0:33:46 > 0:33:49What a nice thing, to have a rose named after you.
0:33:52 > 0:33:54# Let's get lost
0:33:56 > 0:33:58# Let's get lost
0:34:01 > 0:34:03# Let's get lost
0:34:05 > 0:34:08# Let's get lost
0:34:12 > 0:34:14# I wear it like a charm
0:34:14 > 0:34:16# A tattoo on my arm
0:34:18 > 0:34:20# Your name in a horseshoe
0:34:21 > 0:34:23# Your talismans and such
0:34:23 > 0:34:25# I rely on them to touch
0:34:25 > 0:34:28# Get close to you
0:34:28 > 0:34:32# Oh, I get high just a little
0:34:32 > 0:34:35# High just a little
0:34:35 > 0:34:37# Keepin' my fingers crossed
0:34:37 > 0:34:41# Oh, and I try just a little
0:34:41 > 0:34:42# Try just a little
0:34:44 > 0:34:46# Now I've found you
0:34:46 > 0:34:48# Let's get lost
0:34:50 > 0:34:53# Let's get lost
0:34:55 > 0:34:57# Let's get lost. #
0:35:01 > 0:35:03Generally, you do the show.
0:35:03 > 0:35:07That finishes. You go straight onto the coach.
0:35:07 > 0:35:09Maybe hang around backstage if you have guests.
0:35:09 > 0:35:12I like to get straight onto the coach.
0:35:12 > 0:35:16You're going to have to sleep in a bunk, so that's a discipline.
0:35:17 > 0:35:19There might be 12 bunks, so they're really stacked up.
0:35:19 > 0:35:21They're more like coffins, you know.
0:35:21 > 0:35:23And you have to jump up to get into your bunk.
0:35:23 > 0:35:26But once you're in there, you're on your own. You have a little curtain.
0:35:26 > 0:35:28It's definitely a love/hate relationship.
0:35:28 > 0:35:31You hate it for lots of reasons - you're not sleeping,
0:35:31 > 0:35:35it's noisy, you're confined, you're sharing the toilet with,
0:35:35 > 0:35:38you know, all these guys and there's no real...
0:35:39 > 0:35:42..comfort. But, on the other hand,
0:35:42 > 0:35:45it's like a little cocoon and when you get in there, you know you're
0:35:45 > 0:35:47going to wake up in the next town and that's kind of a great feeling.
0:35:47 > 0:35:50MUSIC: Never Be Together by The Pretenders
0:36:11 > 0:36:15I love living in hotels. It's my favourite thing, to be honest.
0:36:15 > 0:36:18It just represents moving - that you're always moving.
0:36:20 > 0:36:23In fact, the number-one thing I'm asked by people...
0:36:23 > 0:36:26When they know that you're out on tour, they always say,
0:36:26 > 0:36:29"Oh, you probably can't wait to get home so you can sleep in your own bed,"
0:36:29 > 0:36:32and I think, "That's exactly what I DON'T want to do.
0:36:35 > 0:36:37# Oh, no
0:36:38 > 0:36:40# We'll never
0:36:42 > 0:36:44# We'll never be together. #
0:36:57 > 0:37:00People always have these weird ideas about why you do this.
0:37:00 > 0:37:03The whole idea of being on stage -
0:37:03 > 0:37:08that it's all about this adulation or this energy from the audience.
0:37:08 > 0:37:11Really, it's just about feeling like you're...
0:37:11 > 0:37:13You actually know what you're doing for an hour.
0:37:13 > 0:37:15You know, the rest of the time, you're kind of bumbling around,
0:37:15 > 0:37:18trying to make sense of your life.
0:37:21 > 0:37:25You've still got 22 hours to deal with in between the shows,
0:37:25 > 0:37:28so you have to kind of get into the waiting.
0:37:28 > 0:37:30Cos that's really what this game is about - it's a waiting game.
0:37:32 > 0:37:35But I like to think of my waiting time as goof-off time.
0:37:35 > 0:37:38And I like to goof off, so I just rethink it.
0:37:45 > 0:37:48It's Sunday. It's going to get hot, so I can't be out for long.
0:37:50 > 0:37:53But I need to get some scarves so I can modify the lighting in my room.
0:37:53 > 0:37:58I never seem to pack what I need. It gets worse and worse.
0:37:59 > 0:38:02Like jet lag. The two things in life that get...
0:38:02 > 0:38:05They seem to get worse with experience. So, here we go.
0:38:08 > 0:38:10The thing is, when you're out
0:38:10 > 0:38:13trying to go for a walk in most of these towns now,
0:38:13 > 0:38:18you don't really feel like you're in the human zone but, you know,
0:38:18 > 0:38:22I soldier on, determined to go for a walk anyway.
0:38:35 > 0:38:37That's a nice effort, to make a little...
0:38:39 > 0:38:42..fountain, water feature, here. I don't know who's looking at it,
0:38:42 > 0:38:45because it faces nothing but concrete and cars.
0:38:46 > 0:38:48- I- looked at it, OK? And I appreciate it.
0:38:55 > 0:38:59What I love is, on these places that have been concreted over,
0:38:59 > 0:39:04how all the plants seem to force their way up and you can kind of
0:39:04 > 0:39:06see what it will look like...
0:39:06 > 0:39:09This is kind of what I think of as an Armageddon scene, you know?
0:39:09 > 0:39:10They're going to...
0:39:11 > 0:39:17..push the concrete out of the way and, er, this is just the beginning.
0:39:17 > 0:39:21These are the things that I always notice in cities because I...
0:39:21 > 0:39:24I don't know, I like the ghostly presence of what was.
0:39:31 > 0:39:34Local talent just ignoring me.
0:39:34 > 0:39:37As you can see, most people are wearing shorts
0:39:37 > 0:39:41but, you know, being in an English rock band, that's just prohibited.
0:39:41 > 0:39:42That can't happen, so...
0:39:44 > 0:39:48Although I've... I've been told I have very nice legs.
0:39:48 > 0:39:50It will have to be left to the imagination.
0:39:55 > 0:39:58And there's the romantic tracks.
0:40:02 > 0:40:07Source of many, many songs, getting on the train.
0:40:10 > 0:40:14Which is where my baby used to leave on but I guess now,
0:40:14 > 0:40:16they just get a flight.
0:40:19 > 0:40:22SONG: Back On The Chain Gang
0:40:26 > 0:40:28CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:40:35 > 0:40:37# I found a picture of you
0:40:39 > 0:40:41# Oh-oh-oh-oh
0:40:42 > 0:40:45# What hijacked my world that night
0:40:48 > 0:40:50# To a place in the past
0:40:50 > 0:40:52# We've been cast out of?
0:40:53 > 0:40:54# Oh-oh-oh-oh
0:40:56 > 0:40:59# Now we're back in the fight
0:41:01 > 0:41:05# Ooh, we're back on the train
0:41:08 > 0:41:12# Oh, back on the chain gang
0:41:19 > 0:41:22# A circumstance beyond our control
0:41:23 > 0:41:26# Oh-oh-oh-oh
0:41:26 > 0:41:30# The phone, TV and the News Of The World
0:41:33 > 0:41:36# Got in the house like a pigeon from hell
0:41:37 > 0:41:39# Oh-oh-oh-oh
0:41:39 > 0:41:43# Threw sand in our eyes and descended like flies
0:41:46 > 0:41:49# Put us back on the train
0:41:52 > 0:41:57# Oh, back on the chain gang
0:42:15 > 0:42:17# The powers that be
0:42:18 > 0:42:20# That force us to live like we do
0:42:22 > 0:42:24# Bring me to my knees
0:42:24 > 0:42:27# When I see what they've done to you
0:42:34 > 0:42:37# But I'll die as I stand here today
0:42:38 > 0:42:42# Knowing that deep in my heart
0:42:42 > 0:42:45# They'll fall to ruin one day
0:42:45 > 0:42:53# For making us part
0:42:56 > 0:42:59# I found a picture of you
0:43:00 > 0:43:03# Oh-oh-oh-oh
0:43:03 > 0:43:06# Those were the happiest days of my life
0:43:09 > 0:43:13# Like a break in the battle was your part
0:43:14 > 0:43:15# Oh-oh-oh-oh
0:43:15 > 0:43:20# In the wretched life of a lonely heart
0:43:22 > 0:43:26# Ooh, back on the train
0:43:29 > 0:43:32# Oh, back on the chain gang. #
0:43:36 > 0:43:38This groove is fucking awesome. Check this out.
0:43:46 > 0:43:50# You ought to see my baby
0:43:50 > 0:43:52# Lord, that girl's so fine
0:43:54 > 0:43:57# She loves me every morning and every night
0:43:57 > 0:44:00# And she's always on my mind
0:44:00 > 0:44:02# She got sugar-coated love... #
0:44:02 > 0:44:05- MUSIC DROWNS SPEECH - # Yeah, sugar-coated love
0:44:08 > 0:44:10# She's a real-gone baby
0:44:10 > 0:44:13# I don't mean maybe She's mine... #
0:44:13 > 0:44:15They were, like, known for doing...
0:44:15 > 0:44:17- They made blues into, like, pop songs.- Mm-hm.
0:44:17 > 0:44:19They would put little quirky hits in.
0:44:19 > 0:44:23Little quirky, you know, hooks all over the place, you know?
0:44:23 > 0:44:26- # I don't have to worry about. # - MUSIC STOPS
0:44:26 > 0:44:29But I fucking love their sound. They're so quirky.
0:44:29 > 0:44:31# Well, I'm a king bee
0:44:31 > 0:44:34# Buzzing around your hive... #
0:44:37 > 0:44:42Just hooks everywhere, right? Subtle, nothing special.
0:44:42 > 0:44:45# Buzzing around your hive
0:44:48 > 0:44:51# Well, I can make honey, baby
0:44:51 > 0:44:54# Let me come inside... #
0:44:56 > 0:45:00Yeah, fucking... I've just been getting obsessed with this label.
0:45:00 > 0:45:02This one guy produced all these records.
0:45:02 > 0:45:06All these different people, they all have this one certain quality.
0:45:06 > 0:45:10- 'Your new album was recorded in Nashville. Are you done?- Yeah, yeah.
0:45:10 > 0:45:14'With... Oh, I didn't know that the guy from Black Keys,
0:45:14 > 0:45:15'Dan Ow-er-back was also...'
0:45:15 > 0:45:17- Dan Auerbach.- Ar-Ar...?
0:45:17 > 0:45:19That's a good Jewish name - you should be able to pronounce that.
0:45:19 > 0:45:22- No. AUR...- Auerbach.- Auerbach.
0:45:22 > 0:45:24- It's not "buck", it's "bach". - Bach. Auerbach.- From Akron.
0:45:24 > 0:45:28- H-H-He's Jewish?- Yeah.- Oh.
0:45:28 > 0:45:30- His dad's an antiques dealer. - Oh, I love them!
0:45:30 > 0:45:33Oh, no, he's not, because his mom's not,
0:45:33 > 0:45:36- so he can't be Jewish.- Then he's not Jewish, no.- All right, sorry.
0:45:36 > 0:45:38- Sorry, we've just lost one.- Yeah. - See?
0:45:38 > 0:45:41- Hopes are dashed in the course of a minute.- Just like that.
0:45:41 > 0:45:44First we have a member of the tribe, and then they're not.
0:45:44 > 0:45:46MUSIC: Holy Commotion by The Pretenders
0:45:48 > 0:45:49Remember doing this one?
0:45:59 > 0:46:01It's the club mix.
0:46:01 > 0:46:03- Huh?- The club mix.
0:46:20 > 0:46:22# Ah-ah, ah-ah-ah
0:46:22 > 0:46:24# Massive devotion
0:46:27 > 0:46:29# Ah-ah, ah-ah-ah
0:46:29 > 0:46:31# And a holy commotion
0:46:33 > 0:46:36# I just want, I want, I want
0:46:36 > 0:46:38# To see your face
0:46:40 > 0:46:43# I just want, I want, I want
0:46:43 > 0:46:46# To change your place
0:46:46 > 0:46:48# Lift your veil... #
0:46:50 > 0:46:54'Yeah, so I was, er, talking to Dan Auerbach and I said...'
0:46:54 > 0:46:58Just in passing, I said, "Yeah, I do all this stuff on my own, usually.
0:46:58 > 0:47:00"Go to the cinema alone..."
0:47:00 > 0:47:02I don't know what prompted me to say this.
0:47:02 > 0:47:04Maybe it was just, you know, self pitying or something,
0:47:04 > 0:47:06and he goes, "Write a song about it."
0:47:10 > 0:47:12I don't think anyone really WANTS to be alone.
0:47:12 > 0:47:17You know, you just make the most of what you have and, you know,
0:47:17 > 0:47:18that's all I'm trying to say.
0:47:21 > 0:47:22I look at it more...
0:47:22 > 0:47:25It's not a young man's game, it's not for young people,
0:47:25 > 0:47:29but as you get older it's more a matter of renunciation,
0:47:29 > 0:47:32where you retire from a lot of the pursuits of...
0:47:32 > 0:47:36You know, which come from, er,
0:47:36 > 0:47:38you know, being in a relationship.
0:47:38 > 0:47:41You've done the family, you've got that out of the way,
0:47:41 > 0:47:44you've done your duty and your job and then you have some time
0:47:44 > 0:47:50to really reflect on, you know, whatever you need to reflect on.
0:47:50 > 0:47:52And that's a luxury of...
0:47:52 > 0:47:54That most people probably can't afford
0:47:54 > 0:47:58unless they really are renounced and are willing to go off with nothing.
0:47:58 > 0:47:59Most people won't do that.
0:47:59 > 0:48:01It's a very high order.
0:48:01 > 0:48:05That would be called a "sanyassi" in Indian culture, Vedic culture,
0:48:05 > 0:48:08and you don't meet many people who are capable of that.
0:48:11 > 0:48:12I'm not renounced cos I'm in a rock band
0:48:12 > 0:48:15and I'm going to go on tour, so that's not really renounced.
0:48:15 > 0:48:19You know, renounced is when you're not really featuring
0:48:19 > 0:48:21all these worldly pleasures any more.
0:48:26 > 0:48:28Hold on a minute. Chrissie Hynde's just told me
0:48:28 > 0:48:31- she has done a song with Kate Moss. - Yeah.
0:48:31 > 0:48:35- This is, like, the best news I've ever heard in my entire life.- Yeah.
0:48:35 > 0:48:39She went from vapid consumerism to sort of rock goddess.
0:48:39 > 0:48:43- In your eyes.- In my eyes. I always loved her, but...
0:48:43 > 0:48:45I adore Kate... You know I...
0:48:45 > 0:48:49- She's amazing. She sings great.- Does she?- She sings great.- Really?- Yeah.
0:48:49 > 0:48:52She should back off the fags a little bit and get serious.
0:48:52 > 0:48:57- She could really be a singer. - Better than Naomi Campbell?- Er, I...
0:48:57 > 0:48:59- Have you heard Naomi sing?- I think Naomi can sing, too.- Yeah.
0:48:59 > 0:49:02You know she had a hit album in Japan years ago? Baby Woman.
0:49:02 > 0:49:06- I sang on it.- No!- Yeah.- This is getting crazier by the minute!
0:49:08 > 0:49:11# But if you love him... #
0:49:11 > 0:49:13CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:49:14 > 0:49:16Is this her?
0:49:17 > 0:49:21- # Even though he's hard... # - That's Kate.
0:49:21 > 0:49:22# To understand... #
0:49:22 > 0:49:24Where did you find it?
0:49:26 > 0:49:28Oh, yeah. Is that OK with you?
0:49:28 > 0:49:30# If you love him
0:49:31 > 0:49:35# Be proud of him
0:49:35 > 0:49:37# Cos after all
0:49:38 > 0:49:41# He's just a man. #
0:49:41 > 0:49:42- Wow!- Amazing!- Sexy.
0:49:42 > 0:49:45I wanted to do Foolish Little Girl with her -
0:49:45 > 0:49:47- you know, the Shirelles?- Yes.
0:49:47 > 0:49:49You broke his heart and made him cry
0:49:49 > 0:49:50And he's been blue since then
0:49:50 > 0:49:52Now he's found somebody else
0:49:52 > 0:49:55And you want him back again.
0:49:55 > 0:49:58- Is it true? Does she? - She didn't want to sing it.
0:49:58 > 0:50:01She goes, "I went through a divorce." I think the lyrics were a little sensitive.
0:50:01 > 0:50:03- I mean...- So she said...
0:50:03 > 0:50:07- But she was agreeable to do Stand By Your Man.- Unbelievable. Mm-hm.
0:50:07 > 0:50:10I coached her for two days singing into Mason Pearson brushes.
0:50:10 > 0:50:12- Had she ever...?- In her bedroom.
0:50:12 > 0:50:14It was hard for me to get her to settle down -
0:50:14 > 0:50:17she kept running into her dressing room and taking her clothes off
0:50:17 > 0:50:19- and trying on different dresses. - Yeah.
0:50:19 > 0:50:20That's what she likes to do
0:50:20 > 0:50:23but she needs someone like you to, like, rein her in.
0:50:24 > 0:50:26MUSIC: I Hate Myself by The Pretenders
0:50:39 > 0:50:42# I hate myself, I hate myself
0:50:42 > 0:50:46# I hate myself for backing the wrong horse
0:50:48 > 0:50:50# I hate myself
0:50:50 > 0:50:55# I hate my phony masquerade of black and blue
0:50:58 > 0:50:59# I hate myself
0:50:59 > 0:51:04# I hate my phony, reckless self-destruction course
0:51:07 > 0:51:11# And coming last, conceding
0:51:11 > 0:51:13# Second best to you
0:51:16 > 0:51:19# And if on Judgment Day
0:51:19 > 0:51:21# I'm told to make my way
0:51:21 > 0:51:25# To take up lasting residence downstairs
0:51:26 > 0:51:28# I'll look to see if others
0:51:28 > 0:51:31# Who backstabbed their own brothers
0:51:31 > 0:51:33# Got a lighter sentence
0:51:33 > 0:51:35# Showing mercy and repentance
0:51:38 > 0:51:41# I hate myself, I hate myself, I hate myself
0:51:41 > 0:51:45# I guess I'm just too smart
0:51:47 > 0:51:51# I hate myself, I hate myself, I hate myself
0:51:51 > 0:51:54# In body and in mind
0:51:57 > 0:51:59# I hate myself, I hate myself
0:51:59 > 0:52:03# I hate these perversions of the heart
0:52:06 > 0:52:08# I hate myself up front
0:52:09 > 0:52:12# I hate myself from behind
0:52:14 > 0:52:17# So take my hand
0:52:19 > 0:52:22# To the witness stand
0:52:26 > 0:52:27# I deserve the worst
0:52:27 > 0:52:30# My heart is gonna burst
0:52:30 > 0:52:33# So validate me, hate me where it hurts
0:52:37 > 0:52:40# I hate myself, I hate myself, I hate myself
0:52:40 > 0:52:43# I hate myself, I hate myself
0:52:47 > 0:52:50# I hate myself, I hate myself, I hate myself
0:52:50 > 0:52:53# I hope that you do too
0:52:56 > 0:52:59# I hate myself, I hate myself
0:52:59 > 0:53:02# I hate myself, I hate myself
0:53:06 > 0:53:09# But most of all I hate myself
0:53:12 > 0:53:16# Hating you. #
0:53:35 > 0:53:37You're catching me doing what I'm really...
0:53:37 > 0:53:41What I do best, and that's just hanging out and doing nothing.
0:53:42 > 0:53:44It's kind of what I specialise in.
0:53:46 > 0:53:49DISTANT SINGING
0:53:53 > 0:53:57This is the whole manor that George Harrison
0:53:57 > 0:53:59gave to the devotees.
0:53:59 > 0:54:03And this is his personal garden.
0:54:03 > 0:54:05And, uh...
0:54:05 > 0:54:06It's open to the public,
0:54:06 > 0:54:10so anyone that wants to hang out at George Harrison's gaff, here it is.
0:54:10 > 0:54:16RHYTHMIC CHANTING
0:54:37 > 0:54:40- I milked a cow the other day.- Where? - Just to put my money where my...
0:54:40 > 0:54:44At the manor that George Harrison bought for the Krishna devotees.
0:54:44 > 0:54:47They have one where they call it Goshala,
0:54:47 > 0:54:50which is a cowherd which is milked by hand and they play,
0:54:50 > 0:54:53you know, Ravi Shankar to them...
0:54:53 > 0:54:56- And massage them and stuff? - Oh, absolutely.
0:54:56 > 0:55:00- Cows should be massaged.- So while I am milking... Yeah, they should be.
0:55:00 > 0:55:02You know, I believe they are sacred animals.
0:55:02 > 0:55:05COW MOOS
0:55:05 > 0:55:08And I understand that if you treat animals badly,
0:55:08 > 0:55:11it's better not to use animal products, which is...
0:55:11 > 0:55:14I'm obviously in agreement with.
0:55:14 > 0:55:16But what if you treated them well?
0:55:16 > 0:55:19What if you treated a cow well? I am all for one cow per family.
0:55:19 > 0:55:22I am actually having a book on cow protection written.
0:55:22 > 0:55:26There's four principles - you never kill one,
0:55:26 > 0:55:29they suckle by their mothers, you milk them by hand
0:55:29 > 0:55:31and you give the oxen work,
0:55:31 > 0:55:35and that can sustain the environment and a human family.
0:55:35 > 0:55:36- Wow.- Uh-huh.- I love that.
0:55:44 > 0:55:48Despite the fact that I look like such an enthusiast here,
0:55:48 > 0:55:51I personally don't think I've had a glass of milk
0:55:51 > 0:55:53in at least 30 years, maybe more.
0:55:54 > 0:55:58These boots, by the way, come from Vegetarian Shoes in Brighton,
0:55:58 > 0:56:03one of the original non-leather sources of footwear in this country.
0:56:03 > 0:56:06Just for anyone there who thinks I'm being a big hypocrite,
0:56:06 > 0:56:07wearing leather boots.
0:56:09 > 0:56:13I am a big hypocrite, probably, but not in that regard.
0:56:16 > 0:56:20Cows have got a very bad rap because of the methane they produce.
0:56:20 > 0:56:23When produced by bulk...
0:56:26 > 0:56:28But in actual fact,
0:56:28 > 0:56:32they perfectly fertilise the soil and add nutrients to it,
0:56:32 > 0:56:34when done in the right way.
0:56:37 > 0:56:41The cow dung, it'd be used for building houses, it's used for fuel.
0:56:41 > 0:56:45In fact, the urine from the cow is used as an antiseptic.
0:56:48 > 0:56:52They're kind of like the answer to all of...
0:56:52 > 0:56:55the ecological problems we're having.
0:56:55 > 0:56:59There's just nothing about these creatures that's not good.
0:57:03 > 0:57:06Do you think she is getting close now?
0:57:06 > 0:57:08To being milked?
0:57:13 > 0:57:15THUNDER RUMBLES
0:57:21 > 0:57:22Giddy-up!
0:57:27 > 0:57:29Ah-ah, ah-ah.
0:57:29 > 0:57:32Giddy-up!
0:57:37 > 0:57:39Giddy-up!
0:57:39 > 0:57:41Life in the fast lane(!)
0:57:48 > 0:57:50Yeah, there we go.
0:57:58 > 0:58:01DISTANT MUSIC
0:58:24 > 0:58:27# Well, who's been playing around with you?
0:58:27 > 0:58:30# A real cool cat with eyes of blue
0:58:30 > 0:58:33# Triflin', baby, are you being true?
0:58:33 > 0:58:38# Who's been playing around with you?
0:58:39 > 0:58:40# Who's been playing around... #
0:58:40 > 0:58:45If you're 16, there is nothing you can do that's better - not drugs,
0:58:45 > 0:58:47not sex, not sniffing glue,
0:58:47 > 0:58:50not getting good grades, not anything.
0:58:50 > 0:58:53Nothing is better than picking up a guitar and making a noise.
0:58:53 > 0:58:55It's just THE BEST.
0:58:55 > 0:58:58# He held your hand and he sang you a song... #
0:58:58 > 0:59:01And I think that when people enjoy doing something, they'll do it,
0:59:01 > 0:59:03they'll find a way.
0:59:04 > 0:59:07That's where I missed the boat, cos I wasn't really...
0:59:07 > 0:59:09I couldn't really jam with guys.
0:59:09 > 0:59:10I was, like, too shy.
0:59:15 > 0:59:16Thank you very much!
0:59:17 > 0:59:20Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very special guest.
0:59:20 > 0:59:21Would you please give it up?
0:59:21 > 0:59:23Ms Chrissie Hynde is going to do a song.
0:59:23 > 0:59:25CHEERING
0:59:31 > 0:59:33All the way from down the road.
0:59:34 > 0:59:38'After the first, like, ten years of doing this and you get over
0:59:38 > 0:59:41'the stage fright, then you actually start enjoying doing the shows
0:59:41 > 0:59:43'and you just look forward to them.
0:59:43 > 0:59:47'I used to dread shows for years, but, you know,
0:59:47 > 0:59:50'you can't let that kind of thing get in your way.'
1:00:06 > 1:00:08# Hush, little darlin'
1:00:08 > 1:00:11# Go to sleep
1:00:11 > 1:00:13# Look out the window
1:00:13 > 1:00:15# Count the sheep
1:00:15 > 1:00:18# That dot the hillsides
1:00:18 > 1:00:20# And the fields of wheat
1:00:20 > 1:00:22# Across America
1:00:22 > 1:00:24# As we cross America
1:00:24 > 1:00:26# What's important
1:00:26 > 1:00:28# Here today
1:00:28 > 1:00:31# The broken line
1:00:31 > 1:00:32# On the highway
1:00:38 > 1:00:41# All the love in the world for you, girl
1:00:41 > 1:00:45# Thumbelina In a great big scary world
1:00:46 > 1:00:49# All the love in the world for you, girl
1:00:49 > 1:00:53# Take my hand and we'll make it through this world. #
1:00:53 > 1:00:55All right, James, go, go, go!
1:01:05 > 1:01:06'I hear people say,
1:01:06 > 1:01:10' "Oh, it must be such a rush to be out there,"
1:01:10 > 1:01:12'but that's not really what it's really about,
1:01:12 > 1:01:16'it's more about looking around and seeing the band coming to life
1:01:16 > 1:01:18'and everyone is playing well,
1:01:18 > 1:01:20'and that's the part of it that turns me on,
1:01:20 > 1:01:22'is just being in that little group.
1:01:22 > 1:01:26'That's the one time in my life when I'm a real team player.'
1:01:36 > 1:01:39# Hush, little darlin'
1:01:39 > 1:01:41# My poor little thing
1:01:41 > 1:01:43# You've been shuffled about
1:01:43 > 1:01:45# Like a pawned wedding ring
1:01:45 > 1:01:47# It must seem strange
1:01:47 > 1:01:49# Love was here, then gone
1:01:49 > 1:01:54# And the Oklahoma sunrise becomes the Amarillo dawn
1:01:54 > 1:01:58# What's important in this life?
1:01:58 > 1:02:00# Ask the man
1:02:00 > 1:02:02# Who's lost his wife. #
1:02:26 > 1:02:27One, two, three, four!
1:02:27 > 1:02:30TEMPO SPEEDS UP
1:02:49 > 1:02:50Whoo!
1:02:54 > 1:02:58TEMPO BECOMES FRENETIC
1:03:09 > 1:03:10Thank you!
1:03:17 > 1:03:20Mother's Little Helper, thank you.
1:03:21 > 1:03:23That's Chrissie Hynde, everyone!
1:03:23 > 1:03:24You can have it.
1:03:31 > 1:03:32So, that's Mother's Little Helper,
1:03:32 > 1:03:36- the little...- Who came up with the name? Did you?
1:03:36 > 1:03:38I did. They were saying, "What can we call ourselves?"
1:03:38 > 1:03:40It's good, though, isn't it?
1:03:44 > 1:03:46I saw the Sid and Nancy film last night at the Curzon.
1:03:46 > 1:03:49I saw it at the time. I noticed it was...
1:03:49 > 1:03:51No-one really wanted to see it.
1:03:51 > 1:03:53I didn't want to see it at the time,
1:03:53 > 1:03:55and, you know, we were like, "Nah."
1:03:55 > 1:03:59It just seemed like an establishment thing or something, I don't know.
1:03:59 > 1:04:01And also knowing everyone, it was like...
1:04:01 > 1:04:04And, you know, frankly, all the guys in the band
1:04:04 > 1:04:07were depicted as some pretty ugly characters
1:04:07 > 1:04:10so, I don't know, you just wouldn't have watched it
1:04:10 > 1:04:13and no-one talked to anyone
1:04:13 > 1:04:16that was doing the film that I remember, anyway,
1:04:16 > 1:04:19erm, for research or anything.
1:04:19 > 1:04:21Anyway, and then...
1:04:22 > 1:04:24It was at the Curzon last night,
1:04:24 > 1:04:26there was absolutely nothing playing in town
1:04:26 > 1:04:28and I thought, "Fuck it, I'm going to go see that,"
1:04:28 > 1:04:30and I thought it was really good. I don't like biopics, usually,
1:04:30 > 1:04:33but, first of all, Gary Oldman was fantastic as Sid.
1:04:33 > 1:04:35He really played him well. I just think...
1:04:35 > 1:04:37And the girl that plays...
1:04:37 > 1:04:41Chloe Webb that played Nancy wasn't quite as evil as Nancy,
1:04:41 > 1:04:43I didn't think, so, at the time, I didn't quite...
1:04:43 > 1:04:45Erm...
1:04:45 > 1:04:52But, all in all, to see the whole as a sort of timepiece of the times,
1:04:52 > 1:04:54I thought it was really well done.
1:04:54 > 1:04:57I think I needed 35 years away from it to be able to recognise that.
1:05:00 > 1:05:05And last night, I passed the Moonlight Club.
1:05:05 > 1:05:07I don't know if it's called that any more.
1:05:07 > 1:05:09It's a pub on West End Lane
1:05:09 > 1:05:12and it's the first place The Pretenders ever played in London.
1:05:12 > 1:05:14We'd done some gigs outside of London
1:05:14 > 1:05:16and in France, but never here
1:05:16 > 1:05:20and it was the night that it was announced that Sid died.
1:05:21 > 1:05:23And no-one was going to tell me cos it was my first gig,
1:05:23 > 1:05:28I was obviously nervous, and just as I was about to walk on stage,
1:05:28 > 1:05:31someone said, "What about Sid, then?"
1:05:31 > 1:05:32I went, "I don't know, what about him?"
1:05:32 > 1:05:35"Oh, you know, he died."
1:05:35 > 1:05:38I went, "Oh! We've got to do this show now."
1:05:44 > 1:05:48Good to see so many really old faces up at the front.
1:05:48 > 1:05:50CHEERING
1:05:50 > 1:05:52It's kind of freaky, to be honest.
1:05:52 > 1:05:55All right! Fuck it.
1:05:55 > 1:05:57Yeah, I mean...
1:05:57 > 1:05:59Yeah, there's no good young bands. Fuck 'em.
1:05:59 > 1:06:03There are, actually. They're coming back, I predict that.
1:06:03 > 1:06:05A lot of bands. If you love bands like I do,
1:06:05 > 1:06:09it's all going to happen in the next, I don't know...
1:06:09 > 1:06:10- AUDIENCE MEMBER:- We'll be dead!
1:06:10 > 1:06:12LAUGHTER
1:06:12 > 1:06:13Well, that's the good news.
1:06:13 > 1:06:15OK.
1:06:16 > 1:06:18One, two, three, four!
1:06:27 > 1:06:30# A good time was guaranteed for one and all
1:06:30 > 1:06:35# The tattoos did target practice in the hall
1:06:35 > 1:06:39# While waiting for their number to get called out
1:06:39 > 1:06:44# I-I-I-I found out what the wait was about
1:06:45 > 1:06:47# I was a good time
1:06:47 > 1:06:51# Yeah, I got pretty good
1:06:53 > 1:06:56# At changing tyres upstairs, bro
1:06:56 > 1:07:01# I shot my mouth off and you showed me what that hole was for
1:08:04 > 1:08:06# Now I see you
1:08:06 > 1:08:09# All impressed and half-undressed
1:08:09 > 1:08:12# You got paint stick all over the scars and lumps and bumps
1:08:12 > 1:08:15# Tattooed love boys
1:08:15 > 1:08:17# Have got you where you used to lay
1:08:17 > 1:08:19# Well, ha-ha, too bad
1:08:19 > 1:08:23# But you know what they say
1:08:23 > 1:08:26# Stop snivellin'!
1:08:26 > 1:08:29# You're going to make some plastic surgeon a rich man!
1:08:31 > 1:08:33# Oh, but the prestige and the glory
1:08:35 > 1:08:38# Another human interest story
1:08:41 > 1:08:44# You are that. #
1:08:44 > 1:08:46I can get out and just go in,
1:08:46 > 1:08:49hang a left here and just go straight through, can't I?
1:08:49 > 1:08:51Yeah, you can get in there.
1:08:53 > 1:08:56- So...- All right, let me do that. That's the best way, isn't it?
1:08:56 > 1:08:59- I think so.- Rather than make you go all the way around.
1:08:59 > 1:09:00Yeah, I can go right in there.
1:09:08 > 1:09:10- ANNOUNCEMENT:- 'Baggage left unattended
1:09:10 > 1:09:11'will be removed and destroyed.'
1:09:52 > 1:10:01# I got this strange, strange feeling
1:10:01 > 1:10:07# Deep down in my heart
1:10:08 > 1:10:14# I can't tell what it is
1:10:14 > 1:10:20# But it won't let go
1:10:22 > 1:10:26# It happens every time
1:10:26 > 1:10:33# I give you more than what I have
1:10:33 > 1:10:37# Now all I need is a little time... #
1:10:37 > 1:10:39There's a few voices that, as soon as you hear their voice,
1:10:39 > 1:10:42you're already sort of transported into another place.
1:10:45 > 1:10:46Of course, what they're singing matters,
1:10:46 > 1:10:49but it's just the sound of their voice that does it.
1:10:49 > 1:10:50And he's one of them.
1:10:51 > 1:10:55When I was 17, I walked into a record store and saw that face.
1:10:55 > 1:10:59That face only said one thing to me and that is, "Take me home."
1:10:59 > 1:11:00And, you know,
1:11:00 > 1:11:04I listened to that album a thousand times when I was 17.
1:11:04 > 1:11:11# When you're home all alone
1:11:12 > 1:11:18# Oh, don't you need
1:11:18 > 1:11:25# Somebody to talk your troubles to
1:11:25 > 1:11:31# Oh, Lord, I know
1:11:31 > 1:11:37# I want to take
1:11:37 > 1:11:40# The morning train, Lord
1:11:40 > 1:11:43# The break of day
1:11:43 > 1:11:47# Oh, I don't want to lose you, you see... #
1:11:54 > 1:11:56This was the country when I lived here.
1:11:56 > 1:11:58What we called the country,
1:11:58 > 1:12:01you went out to the country to buy corn and tomatoes.
1:12:05 > 1:12:11This is what it is now, and that was within, you know, my lifetime.
1:12:15 > 1:12:18You know, this is how Middle America is, from here
1:12:18 > 1:12:20all the way over to California.
1:12:20 > 1:12:22See, it just goes on and on.
1:12:23 > 1:12:24Just warehouses of stuff.
1:12:28 > 1:12:30If you live anywhere here,
1:12:30 > 1:12:32the only way you can go anywhere is just to get in your car.
1:12:32 > 1:12:34There is no place you can walk to.
1:12:36 > 1:12:39And there's no interaction on the street at all. There's no life.
1:12:39 > 1:12:41Everyone is in their car.
1:12:41 > 1:12:43It's a shift in human society.
1:12:47 > 1:12:48The Unabomber.
1:12:48 > 1:12:52Ted Kaczynski, who was like a sort of maths genius.
1:12:52 > 1:12:54I don't know if you know anything about him.
1:12:54 > 1:12:57He ended up sending letter bombs and killing people.
1:12:57 > 1:13:00But his manifesto was all about the disconnected,
1:13:00 > 1:13:02how isolated it was going to make people, and lonely,
1:13:02 > 1:13:04by this car culture.
1:13:12 > 1:13:16We're going to come up all round the back, or the front or side
1:13:16 > 1:13:18or whatever the hell it is there.
1:13:23 > 1:13:25And there is the wonderful Summit Mall
1:13:25 > 1:13:27where I spent many, many, many, many, many hours
1:13:27 > 1:13:29of my life.
1:13:30 > 1:13:32Miserable...
1:13:34 > 1:13:35..unhappy...
1:13:37 > 1:13:40..disenfranchised, depressed hours.
1:13:40 > 1:13:43I worked as a waitress in there.
1:13:46 > 1:13:47Awful.
1:13:51 > 1:13:56# O'Neil's is such an exciting department store
1:13:56 > 1:13:58# A lively fashion where
1:13:58 > 1:14:00# Our two-barrel living
1:14:00 > 1:14:03# A warehouse-value goodie
1:14:03 > 1:14:07# At O'Neil's you're assured of quality. #
1:14:07 > 1:14:09- Hi.- Hiya.
1:14:09 > 1:14:11What's the plainest popcorn? Just plain popcorn.
1:14:11 > 1:14:13Ah...
1:14:13 > 1:14:14It's...
1:14:14 > 1:14:16slightly buttered.
1:14:16 > 1:14:18Great.
1:14:18 > 1:14:19And can I have just a small, like,
1:14:19 > 1:14:22what do you have that's closest to water? Water?
1:14:22 > 1:14:26Yeah, we have water. It'll be ten cents, is that OK?
1:14:26 > 1:14:27Sure.
1:14:34 > 1:14:36# Our voucher's ability
1:14:36 > 1:14:40# Will buy wonders every store
1:14:40 > 1:14:44# You get such satisfaction shopping at O'Neil's. #
1:14:47 > 1:14:49So this really is the heartland.
1:14:51 > 1:14:53We actually are going to pass my old street.
1:14:53 > 1:14:56We could go down it and find my house where I grew up
1:14:56 > 1:14:58from the age of 8 to 17 or something,
1:14:58 > 1:14:59so significant years.
1:15:15 > 1:15:23# Now you say you're lonely
1:15:23 > 1:15:29# You cry the whole night through
1:15:29 > 1:15:35# Well, you can cry me a river
1:15:35 > 1:15:39# Cry me a river
1:15:39 > 1:15:44# I cried a river over you... #
1:15:46 > 1:15:49See where that American flag is? That was my old house.
1:15:49 > 1:15:51It's been there for over 50 years,
1:15:51 > 1:15:53so it's all mature now and the trees.
1:15:53 > 1:15:57But when I lived there it was a brand-new housing development.
1:15:57 > 1:16:00My parents had two records, and they were Julie London records at home.
1:16:00 > 1:16:03And then a box set of Glenn Miller records.
1:16:03 > 1:16:05I never heard them play them.
1:16:05 > 1:16:07I don't think they ever played music in the house.
1:16:07 > 1:16:09But they had, I don't know...
1:16:09 > 1:16:10So that, when I see that picture,
1:16:10 > 1:16:13I'm back, you know...
1:16:13 > 1:16:15Back in my parents' house next to the hi-fi,
1:16:15 > 1:16:17which, they never played it but...
1:16:18 > 1:16:20That picture meant a lot to me.
1:16:20 > 1:16:23I think that's why I wanted to be a singer, was seeing her face there.
1:16:23 > 1:16:25I'm sure it was.
1:16:25 > 1:16:32# While you never shed a tear
1:16:34 > 1:16:37# Remember, I remember
1:16:37 > 1:16:41# All that you said
1:16:41 > 1:16:45# Told me love was too plebeian
1:16:45 > 1:16:48# Told me you were through with me... #
1:16:48 > 1:16:491805.
1:16:52 > 1:16:54It was painted differently then.
1:16:54 > 1:16:56But they've maintained it very nicely.
1:16:56 > 1:16:59So my parents would be happy.
1:16:59 > 1:17:03# Just to prove you do
1:17:03 > 1:17:07# Come on and cry me a river
1:17:08 > 1:17:11# Cry me a river
1:17:13 > 1:17:15# I cried a river... #
1:17:15 > 1:17:16Keep going straight.
1:17:19 > 1:17:20Keep going straight.
1:17:21 > 1:17:23Caution.
1:17:24 > 1:17:26Proceed.
1:17:26 > 1:17:28SHE LAUGHS
1:17:28 > 1:17:31There's a lot more. There's a lot you'll never see.
1:17:31 > 1:17:34You haven't even seen the underbelly yet.
1:17:37 > 1:17:40- SATNAV:- 'Turn right, then arrive at destination.'
1:17:45 > 1:17:48You've arrived, but that doesn't mean you're there.
1:17:54 > 1:17:57I loved this place when I was a teenager.
1:17:57 > 1:18:00If you grew up in the new suburbs,
1:18:00 > 1:18:03there was something really mystical
1:18:03 > 1:18:05about hanging out in a place like this.
1:18:08 > 1:18:12I lived in a place where everything old was torn down,
1:18:12 > 1:18:16so, you know, something like this had immense charm.
1:18:32 > 1:18:37Since I don't see having a fondness for cemeteries
1:18:37 > 1:18:40as anything remotely...
1:18:42 > 1:18:43..morbid.
1:18:43 > 1:18:47Some people say, "Why would you want to hang out in a cemetery?"
1:18:47 > 1:18:49For me, they are nature reserves.
1:18:49 > 1:18:52Usually, there's no-one in them.
1:18:52 > 1:18:55They're very unspoiled because no-one's in them.
1:18:56 > 1:18:58And, um...
1:18:58 > 1:19:01there's often just nothing else like it in a city.
1:19:04 > 1:19:06Spicer.
1:19:06 > 1:19:08That's a big name, Akron name.
1:19:08 > 1:19:11Spicer, there's a lot of things named after Spicer.
1:19:11 > 1:19:14Schumacher, same. That's another big Akron name.
1:19:23 > 1:19:27The first guy I loved, that I was in love with, was named Burnett.
1:19:27 > 1:19:29Maybe that was his family.
1:19:29 > 1:19:30He's dead now.
1:19:33 > 1:19:37Urbane Watkins, yeah, I have never heard of someone named Urbane.
1:19:37 > 1:19:39Good name.
1:19:43 > 1:19:47See, I could do this for hours. Not hours, but...
1:19:47 > 1:19:49And it's a great thing if, you know, back in the day,
1:19:49 > 1:19:51you could smoke a joint.
1:19:51 > 1:19:52And just...
1:19:55 > 1:19:57That's a good old name, "Fanny".
1:20:02 > 1:20:04When I'm alone and I can walk through a cemetery,
1:20:04 > 1:20:06I like to say their names out loud cos I just think,
1:20:06 > 1:20:10"When was the last time anyone ever said your name out loud?"
1:20:10 > 1:20:13And I don't know that that means anything. It's just something I do.
1:20:17 > 1:20:20# Keep beckoning to me
1:20:20 > 1:20:24# From behind that closed door
1:20:24 > 1:20:29# The maid and the mother and the crone that's grown old
1:20:29 > 1:20:33# I hear your voice
1:20:33 > 1:20:37# Coming out of that hole
1:20:37 > 1:20:40# I listen to you
1:20:40 > 1:20:44# And I want some more
1:20:44 > 1:20:47# I listen to you
1:20:47 > 1:20:52# And I want some more
1:20:53 > 1:20:58# And she will always carry on
1:20:58 > 1:21:01# Something is lost
1:21:01 > 1:21:04# Something is found
1:21:04 > 1:21:09# They will keep on speaking her name
1:21:09 > 1:21:12# Some things change
1:21:12 > 1:21:17# Some stay the same
1:21:17 > 1:21:22# And she will always carry on
1:21:23 > 1:21:26# Something is lost
1:21:26 > 1:21:29# Something is found
1:21:29 > 1:21:36# They will keep on speaking her name
1:21:36 > 1:21:40# Some things change
1:21:40 > 1:21:44# Some stay the same
1:21:47 > 1:21:52# Ah. #
1:21:55 > 1:21:58CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1:22:10 > 1:22:15So this is, really, what I sort of grew up with,
1:22:15 > 1:22:16all these woods and everything.
1:22:18 > 1:22:22And they went right up to the back of where the house was.
1:22:23 > 1:22:25This is right in the height of the summer.
1:22:25 > 1:22:30In the winter time, there's no leaves. And it's fucking cold.
1:22:30 > 1:22:33And there is snow and slush and sleet.
1:22:33 > 1:22:37When it's the most spectacular is in the month of October, here.
1:22:37 > 1:22:39Because everything's like scarlet and gold,
1:22:39 > 1:22:41and, I mean, it's breathtaking.
1:22:45 > 1:22:47I used to love coming out to places like this.
1:22:47 > 1:22:49Getting lost.
1:22:57 > 1:22:58My thing was always trees.
1:23:01 > 1:23:04When you're a child, and you're in the woods a lot,
1:23:04 > 1:23:07this has a lot to do with... in forming the way you think.
1:23:10 > 1:23:13When I'm in there, I feel like I'm surrounded by people.
1:23:13 > 1:23:15They are living entities.
1:23:15 > 1:23:19Only, you know, they're kind of more cool than people.
1:23:19 > 1:23:20For the most part.
1:23:29 > 1:23:32I always thought, when I was little, that I would end up,
1:23:32 > 1:23:35that was my dream scenario, was to end up going down
1:23:35 > 1:23:38one of those gullies and having my own little cabin.
1:23:38 > 1:23:41A tiny, little thing.
1:23:41 > 1:23:42And I would live alone there.
1:23:51 > 1:23:53These two weird trees that have gone together.
1:24:01 > 1:24:02That's a cool thing.
1:24:06 > 1:24:08I'm not wearing the right shoes for this.
1:24:33 > 1:24:35# Long ago
1:24:35 > 1:24:38# And oh so far away
1:24:38 > 1:24:40# I fell in love with you
1:24:40 > 1:24:43# Before the second show
1:24:43 > 1:24:45# And your guitar
1:24:45 > 1:24:48# It sounds so sweet and clear
1:24:48 > 1:24:51# But you're not really here
1:24:51 > 1:24:55# It's just the radio
1:24:55 > 1:25:00# Don't you remember you told me you love me, baby?
1:25:02 > 1:25:06# Said you'd be coming back again, baby
1:25:08 > 1:25:14# Baby, baby, baby, baby, oh, baby
1:25:14 > 1:25:17# I love you
1:25:17 > 1:25:20# I really do... #
1:25:25 > 1:25:27- Where's Chrissie?- Where are you?
1:25:29 > 1:25:33- I'm like...- What are you doing? - I'm looking for you.
1:25:34 > 1:25:38- Where are we at? You were in Akron last week?- Well, they wanted a...
1:25:38 > 1:25:40I said, "Instead of a retrospective thing,
1:25:40 > 1:25:43"where you get people talking about me..." gross,
1:25:43 > 1:25:46"Just follow me around doing what I do anyway."
1:25:46 > 1:25:47Really?!
1:25:49 > 1:25:50Look at all these little...
1:25:50 > 1:25:52There's hummus.
1:25:53 > 1:25:57- I'm all for that.- We could sit on the street and eat some hummus.
1:25:57 > 1:25:59Pockets.
1:25:59 > 1:26:01- Aztec, Moroccan...- It's vegetarian.
1:26:03 > 1:26:07- So we can eat this.- Do you want get that?- Sure.- Can I have a falafel?
1:26:07 > 1:26:09Abdul, do they come out with samples or no?
1:26:11 > 1:26:15Oh, I don't want one, I want this, I want it.
1:26:15 > 1:26:17- Yeah.- Abdul, Abdul. You don't listen to me.
1:26:17 > 1:26:19I talk to you, you don't listen.
1:26:20 > 1:26:23We just want a falafel sandwich, the way you do it.
1:26:24 > 1:26:27And I'm getting the classic, but the bowl.
1:26:28 > 1:26:31Right there, we're going to go, if they don't go there first.
1:26:33 > 1:26:35Ah, shit, those guys just nabbed that table.
1:26:40 > 1:26:43All right. Perfection.
1:26:43 > 1:26:46- It's OK?- Great.
1:26:49 > 1:26:52I wear sunglasses, people notice me more. Isn't that weird?
1:26:52 > 1:26:54Yeah, no-one else around here has them on and, look,
1:26:54 > 1:26:58no-one's paying attention to them. See how it works?
1:26:58 > 1:27:02- Those key earrings, I love those. - Oh, Kate loved those too.
1:27:02 > 1:27:03Those are totally cute.
1:27:03 > 1:27:06They come from a little, tiny padlock that cost, like,
1:27:06 > 1:27:11- you know, 4.99 in a hardware store. - But... So those are just, like...
1:27:11 > 1:27:14- What about the...the thing?- That was just some earrings I had.
1:27:14 > 1:27:16- Oh, and you just put them on!- Yeah.
1:27:16 > 1:27:18- I'll get you some if I see some in a hardware store.- Adorable!
1:27:21 > 1:27:25- Have you met anybody in the past couple of years you like?- Uh-uh.
1:27:25 > 1:27:29Yeah, I do like people, but I would never go after anyone.
1:27:29 > 1:27:30For instance.
1:27:31 > 1:27:33I can't think of anyone.
1:27:33 > 1:27:36Just people you meet out in the world?
1:27:36 > 1:27:37I don't know.
1:27:37 > 1:27:39I haven't thought about it.
1:27:46 > 1:27:50I just need a place where I can paint and be left alone.
1:27:50 > 1:27:51Fabulous.
1:27:55 > 1:27:57They came over for the summer,
1:27:57 > 1:27:59and looked at my paintings.
1:27:59 > 1:28:00That's all I've been doing.
1:28:01 > 1:28:02Not now, I've stopped.
1:28:02 > 1:28:04I was doing one a day,
1:28:04 > 1:28:06but I ground to a halt when I had other things to do.
1:28:09 > 1:28:12You realise that you are going to make this happen now,
1:28:12 > 1:28:13and you are making it happen.
1:28:16 > 1:28:18More productive than ever.
1:28:19 > 1:28:21It's from isolation.
1:28:23 > 1:28:25What do you mean?
1:28:25 > 1:28:27I don't have... I spend all my time alone.
1:28:27 > 1:28:29I have nothing else to do.
1:28:31 > 1:28:32I understand.
1:28:34 > 1:28:36That's my choice. I like it.
1:28:39 > 1:28:42- You're OK with it.- I get lonely and morose, but you know...- Do you?
1:28:42 > 1:28:44Of course!
1:28:44 > 1:28:46You know.
1:28:46 > 1:28:49I'm a prize. If no-one wants to pick up on that, fuck them.
1:28:56 > 1:28:58The eighth wonder of the world.
1:29:00 > 1:29:02# What you gonna do about it?
1:29:02 > 1:29:05# What you gonna do about it?
1:29:05 > 1:29:08# Whoa! Yeah!
1:29:11 > 1:29:14# What you gonna do about it?
1:29:14 > 1:29:17# What you gonna do about it?
1:29:17 > 1:29:19# What you gonna do about it?
1:29:19 > 1:29:21# Oh! #