River Runs Deep

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0:00:01 > 0:00:03This week on Confidential -

0:00:03 > 0:00:06Professor Song, in the library, with the Doctor.

0:00:06 > 0:00:08River knows his future.

0:00:08 > 0:00:10She knows where he's going.

0:00:10 > 0:00:12You're squabbling like a married couple!

0:00:12 > 0:00:16Whether they are in fact husband and wife is there to be seen.

0:00:16 > 0:00:18Still want more spoilers?

0:00:18 > 0:00:24Well, join us as we also go exclusively backstage to give you the Doctor Moon on a memory stick.

0:00:30 > 0:00:31I'm very good!

0:00:32 > 0:00:34Saved her!

0:00:51 > 0:00:54As we reach the concluding chapter in the library,

0:00:54 > 0:00:55the future is already written

0:00:55 > 0:00:59for both the Doctor and his adventurous companion to come.

0:00:59 > 0:01:01My character, her name's River Song.

0:01:01 > 0:01:04She's a time-travelling archaeologist

0:01:04 > 0:01:06and she has had...

0:01:06 > 0:01:10a very close relationship

0:01:10 > 0:01:13with the Doctor of the future.

0:01:15 > 0:01:16What's interesting

0:01:16 > 0:01:20is that the Doctor is encountering someone, for the first time,

0:01:20 > 0:01:22who has an intimate knowledge of him.

0:01:22 > 0:01:25- Hello, sweetie.- Get out.

0:01:25 > 0:01:27How intimate, we're not entirely sure,

0:01:27 > 0:01:31but they've obviously got a lot of shared history still to have.

0:01:31 > 0:01:35If I just bring you round so you're shining a torch over there.

0:01:35 > 0:01:39And then, when turn your back to the Doctor...

0:01:39 > 0:01:42The Doctor is full of doubt about who Song is.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45I mean, she's kind of come up to him,

0:01:45 > 0:01:46she's got a screwdriver like his.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48She's got information about him.

0:01:48 > 0:01:52River Song is one of the most important characters we've seen in the series.

0:01:52 > 0:01:55Professor River Song. Archaeologist.

0:01:55 > 0:01:58Lovely. As you're leaving now, you need to set up a quarantine...

0:01:58 > 0:02:02It's not your ordinary guest star cropping up saying, "Hello, Doctor."

0:02:02 > 0:02:05It's not just an archaeologist he bumps into.

0:02:05 > 0:02:07It's someone who's vital to his life.

0:02:07 > 0:02:11I always wanted to be Sigourney Weaver in Aliens.

0:02:11 > 0:02:15And I guess maybe this is the closest I'll ever get to that,

0:02:15 > 0:02:18so I might as well go for it!

0:02:20 > 0:02:23Hey, who turned out the lights?

0:02:23 > 0:02:25Hey, who turned out the lights?

0:02:26 > 0:02:28This way, quickly! Move!

0:02:28 > 0:02:30Hey, who turned out the lights?

0:02:44 > 0:02:46- Who turned out the lights?- Run!

0:02:46 > 0:02:49Hey, who turned out the lights?

0:03:04 > 0:03:08The Doctor is always seen as the authority,

0:03:08 > 0:03:11and yet here is a figure who sort of throws in curve balls,

0:03:11 > 0:03:14because she's one up on him, she knows things.

0:03:14 > 0:03:19Her sonic screwdriver is actually, although it might look tattier than his, it's more advanced.

0:03:19 > 0:03:20What's wrong with it?

0:03:20 > 0:03:24- A signal coming from somewhere, interfering with it. - Use the red settings.

0:03:24 > 0:03:25It doesn't have a red setting.

0:03:25 > 0:03:28- Well, use the dampers. - It doesn't have dampers.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30It will do one day.

0:03:30 > 0:03:34And he's completely freaked by this because he's not in control.

0:03:34 > 0:03:35She's wearing the trousers.

0:03:35 > 0:03:39And also I think he understands that she could be the love of his life.

0:03:39 > 0:03:41He understands that even if he doesn't feel it,

0:03:41 > 0:03:43and that must be a terrifying thing.

0:03:43 > 0:03:45Who are you?

0:03:45 > 0:03:49- Professor River Song, University... - To me? Who are you to me?

0:03:49 > 0:03:52Again, spoilers.

0:03:52 > 0:03:58What unsettles him is the level of intimacy they seem to have shared.

0:03:58 > 0:04:02The level of intimacy with which she treats him is peculiar for anyone

0:04:02 > 0:04:06in the Doctor's life, let alone someone he hasn't even met yet.

0:04:06 > 0:04:08Pretty-boy, with me, I said.

0:04:11 > 0:04:13- Oh,- I'm- pretty boy?- Yes!

0:04:13 > 0:04:15Oh, that came out a bit quick.

0:04:15 > 0:04:19- Pretty?- Meh...

0:04:19 > 0:04:24I just notice, as women do notice, something's going on.

0:04:24 > 0:04:27And she wants to flush that out.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29Not romantically, but...

0:04:29 > 0:04:33She likes travelling with the Doctor and this is too important for her

0:04:33 > 0:04:37to let someone swan in with their old, battered sonic screwdriver

0:04:37 > 0:04:39and lay claim to him.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44- And action. - What are you talking about?

0:04:44 > 0:04:46You're just talking rubbish.

0:04:46 > 0:04:48Do you know him or don't you?

0:04:48 > 0:04:51- Donna? Quiet. I'm working.- Sorry.

0:04:51 > 0:04:53- Donna. You're Donna. Donna Noble. - Yeah?

0:04:53 > 0:04:56'She is the keeper of secrets.'

0:04:56 > 0:05:00She knows an awful lot about the Doctor that she doesn't let on.

0:05:03 > 0:05:06And action.

0:05:06 > 0:05:10I do know the Doctor, but in the future.

0:05:10 > 0:05:13His personal future.

0:05:13 > 0:05:15So why don't you know me?

0:05:15 > 0:05:16Where am I in the future?

0:05:16 > 0:05:21I think it's a big shiver, that moment,

0:05:21 > 0:05:24and a sort of a point towards what's to come

0:05:24 > 0:05:25in the rest of this series.

0:05:25 > 0:05:27The Doctor.

0:05:27 > 0:05:29In the TARDIS.

0:05:29 > 0:05:32- Next stop, everywhere.- Spoilers.

0:05:32 > 0:05:35'That's a tempting thing, isn't it?

0:05:35 > 0:05:36'There it is, your future -

0:05:36 > 0:05:39'what's gonna happen to you - there's who she is.'

0:05:39 > 0:05:40There's a handy guide

0:05:40 > 0:05:44to how to win against various other monsters, you know?

0:05:44 > 0:05:46Of course you'd want to have a little look.

0:05:46 > 0:05:48Shall we peek at the end?

0:05:50 > 0:05:53'I wouldn't look into the future.'

0:05:53 > 0:05:55No, I think you'd be mad.

0:05:55 > 0:05:59The future's gonna come, do you know what I mean?

0:05:59 > 0:06:02Whether we like it or not, and if you know it's not gonna be good,

0:06:02 > 0:06:04what a miserable time waiting for it!

0:06:04 > 0:06:10I'd rather just stay in the ignorance that it's all gonna be fine.

0:06:11 > 0:06:12Take two.

0:06:12 > 0:06:15Nostalgia about the future - only Doctor Who can do that,

0:06:15 > 0:06:17and that's great, it's wonderful,

0:06:17 > 0:06:19it's one of my favourite things,

0:06:19 > 0:06:21but the subliminal message is,

0:06:21 > 0:06:24"Oh, you've missed the glory days. Remember when it was good?"

0:06:24 > 0:06:27You know when you see a photograph of someone you know,

0:06:27 > 0:06:29but it's from years before you knew them?

0:06:29 > 0:06:32It's like they're not quite...

0:06:32 > 0:06:35finished, they're not done yet.

0:06:35 > 0:06:37So, with a stake in the future of Doctor Who,

0:06:37 > 0:06:40I thought it would be really good to have a character

0:06:40 > 0:06:42who's doing the opposite, coming along saying,

0:06:42 > 0:06:45- "Oh, the Doctor- I- knew, he was really great."

0:06:45 > 0:06:47So instead of saying, "The show WAS fantastic,"

0:06:47 > 0:06:49you're saying, "Wait till the next guy."

0:06:52 > 0:06:58Back on location, the production team are preparing to film a first for Donna Noble...

0:07:00 > 0:07:02As the Doctor languishes in the library,

0:07:02 > 0:07:06his companion has her own troubles in time and cyber space.

0:07:19 > 0:07:21This episode is perhaps the first time

0:07:21 > 0:07:24we've seen Donna go off on a little adventure of her own,

0:07:24 > 0:07:27but I think that's really only in story terms,

0:07:27 > 0:07:30because she doesn't know she's having one on her own.

0:07:30 > 0:07:31She doesn't remember the Doctor.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34Thank you, for a take, please, turning over.

0:07:37 > 0:07:38And action!

0:07:38 > 0:07:42No more dreams, then? The Doctor?

0:07:42 > 0:07:46The blue box, time and space...?

0:07:46 > 0:07:48How did we get here?

0:07:48 > 0:07:51We came down the stairs.

0:07:51 > 0:07:55There's this really clever device that Steven Moffatt's written,

0:07:55 > 0:07:58where time, in Donna's world, jumps...

0:07:58 > 0:08:00Shall we go down to the river?

0:08:00 > 0:08:02..exactly the way it jumps on TV.

0:08:02 > 0:08:06You said "river", and suddenly we're feeding ducks.

0:08:06 > 0:08:08- When a scene cuts...- Hello, Lee.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11- Hello...- ..time has moved on.

0:08:11 > 0:08:13How did we leave it? Him and me?

0:08:13 > 0:08:16I got the impression he was inviting you fishing.

0:08:16 > 0:08:18She finds herself thinking...

0:08:21 > 0:08:25So...fishing...

0:08:25 > 0:08:26.."I was there a second ago."

0:08:26 > 0:08:28What am I gonna do with you?

0:08:28 > 0:08:34Steven was very keen on us, to use normal, televisual "grammar", to make that jump.

0:08:36 > 0:08:38I play a character called Dr Moon,

0:08:38 > 0:08:43who is the keeper of the mainframe, he looks after the computer,

0:08:43 > 0:08:45he makes things happen, he heals...

0:08:45 > 0:08:49It's a very existential role, he sort of fills in the gaps.

0:08:49 > 0:08:52- Hello, Donna...- Who are you?

0:08:52 > 0:08:57I'm Dr Moon. I've been treating you since you came here two years ago.

0:08:57 > 0:08:59Oh, God!

0:08:59 > 0:09:01Dr Moon, I'm so sorry.

0:09:01 > 0:09:03He's a very enigmatic character.

0:09:03 > 0:09:04I didn't know you for a moment.

0:09:04 > 0:09:06And then you remembered.

0:09:06 > 0:09:09He plays a certain tone of voice.

0:09:09 > 0:09:11You've done so much in seven years, Donna.

0:09:11 > 0:09:13Sometimes it feels more like 70.

0:09:13 > 0:09:16Mind you, sometimes it feels like no time at all.

0:09:16 > 0:09:21Obviously, in Dr Who, in the first five minutes of any given story,

0:09:21 > 0:09:25loads of sinister people turn up and smirk unconvincingly at the camera.

0:09:25 > 0:09:29That's how Dr Who operates, everyone does that in Dr Who.

0:09:29 > 0:09:32So obviously, Dr Moon seems mysterious and sinister.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35- Donna!- Oops, sorry.

0:09:35 > 0:09:39Mrs Angelo's rhubarb surprise. Will I never learn?

0:09:41 > 0:09:43The Doctor...

0:09:43 > 0:09:45I saw the Doctor!

0:09:45 > 0:09:49Yes, you did, Donna, and then...you forgot.

0:09:49 > 0:09:53He looks after people, makes sure they don't realise where they are,

0:09:53 > 0:09:55because that would be painful,

0:09:55 > 0:09:58makes sure they don't escape, cos that would be dangerous.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01So he's actually entirely for the good.

0:10:01 > 0:10:07I would like to think Dr Moon is a, you know, is trying to protect CAL,

0:10:07 > 0:10:11rather than being a malevolent presence.

0:10:11 > 0:10:14Partly because Colin Salmon was so nice!

0:10:14 > 0:10:17The doctor's swansong successfully saves River,

0:10:17 > 0:10:20but filming the finale was one hard drive for the cast.

0:10:20 > 0:10:26- This is the mansion where they're going to live happily ever after. - 161, take one.

0:10:31 > 0:10:32It's OK.

0:10:32 > 0:10:34You're safe.

0:10:34 > 0:10:36You'll always be safe here.

0:10:36 > 0:10:37The Doctor fixed the data core.

0:10:37 > 0:10:40And pause. Astronauts in, please.

0:10:40 > 0:10:45We definitely wanted to suggest that this is a kind of heaven,

0:10:45 > 0:10:50maybe not in that specifically Christian way or any other faith way,

0:10:50 > 0:10:52but a kind of, as a metaphor for heaven

0:10:52 > 0:10:57where River Song and the rest of the astronauts and the little girl end up

0:10:57 > 0:11:01is this beautiful calm, serene, green place

0:11:01 > 0:11:04where they can live happily ever after.

0:11:05 > 0:11:07Given the straight choice between oblivion

0:11:07 > 0:11:10and the run of all human history and all human literature,

0:11:10 > 0:11:14I'll take the run of all human history and all human literature.

0:11:14 > 0:11:16I think that's quite a good retirement plan.

0:11:16 > 0:11:19Pretty much as close to heaven as you're going to get.

0:11:19 > 0:11:21That's what the Doctor gives River at the end -

0:11:21 > 0:11:24an eternal retirement - which is nice of him.

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