Being a Concert Pianist

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0:00:21 > 0:00:25This is Benjamin Grosvenor, playing at the first night of the Proms

0:00:25 > 0:00:27just a few weeks ago.

0:00:28 > 0:00:33At 19, he's the youngest ever soloist to perform at the first night of the Proms,

0:00:33 > 0:00:39and his virtuosity has dazzled both the audience and the critics.

0:00:44 > 0:00:47RAPTUROUS APPLAUSE

0:01:15 > 0:01:19Six years ago, Imagine discovered this musical prodigy in the making.

0:01:20 > 0:01:25This is an 11-year-old Benjamin Grosvenor on his way to winning the piano section

0:01:25 > 0:01:31at the Young Musician Of The Year competition in 2004.

0:01:33 > 0:01:36I'm absolutely bowled over by him.

0:01:36 > 0:01:38It was fabulous really.

0:01:38 > 0:01:42Completely natural feeling for colour and gesture, extraordinary.

0:01:42 > 0:01:46I really felt like I was witnessing some historic moment.

0:01:47 > 0:01:51Benjamin's very clear about his future.

0:01:51 > 0:01:56In about 10 years time or 20 years time, I'd like to be a concert pianist.

0:01:56 > 0:01:58It's what I want to do in life.

0:02:10 > 0:02:16But what does it mean to be a concert pianist today and what is Benjamin letting himself in for?

0:02:46 > 0:02:50The idea of having to walk on stage and play the piano

0:02:50 > 0:02:56in a packed concert hall is one of those universal fantasies, or is it nightmares?

0:02:56 > 0:03:00Unfortunately, I can only play the piano in my dreams.

0:03:00 > 0:03:03Yet, I'm still magnetically drawn to the instrument.

0:03:03 > 0:03:08I can never resist sitting down at a piano and touching the keys.

0:03:08 > 0:03:12Unlike the violin, it is at least easy to get a sound from.

0:03:12 > 0:03:17But at the same time, there's something so improbable about serious piano-playing.

0:03:17 > 0:03:20The speed, the technique, the memory.

0:03:20 > 0:03:24Great piano players appear to be endowed with mystical qualities.

0:03:24 > 0:03:29What's more, the swaying, crouching, tormented figure hammering

0:03:29 > 0:03:33and caressing the ivories is still one of those archetypal romantic images.

0:03:42 > 0:03:46It's not hard to understand why a young boy like Benjamin Grosvenor

0:03:46 > 0:03:49might want to be a concert pianist. Who wouldn't?

0:04:23 > 0:04:25Great!

0:04:27 > 0:04:31Concert piano playing really began in the 1830s when the composer,

0:04:31 > 0:04:36Franz Liszt, first introduced the notion of the solo piano concert.

0:04:36 > 0:04:41Piano recitals rapidly became a widespread and highly popular form of musical entertainment.

0:04:41 > 0:04:45Liszt and his friend, Frederic Chopin, were the first

0:04:45 > 0:04:50in a long line of great pianists who became the cultural heroes and pin-ups of their time.

0:04:52 > 0:04:57They were followed by such piano giants as Ignacy Paderewski,

0:04:57 > 0:05:03whose fame as a pianist led him to become Prime Minister in his native Poland.

0:05:03 > 0:05:09The Virtuoso pianist and composer, Sergei Rachmaninov and Artur Rubinstein,

0:05:09 > 0:05:14who in his 70-year-long career, became the ultimate international superstar.

0:05:42 > 0:05:46The tradition of heroic pianists continued

0:05:46 > 0:05:50throughout the twentieth century, with iconic figures like Horowitz...

0:05:53 > 0:05:54Richter...

0:05:57 > 0:05:58..and Glenn Gould.

0:06:04 > 0:06:11In today's fiendishly competitive music world, the star pianist still retains an elite status.

0:06:13 > 0:06:19'I went to see the leading British composer, George Benjamin, who both writes and performs at the piano,

0:06:19 > 0:06:23'to talk about Benjamin Grosvenor's chances of success.'

0:06:23 > 0:06:29When a young pianist like Benjamin Grosvenor, for instance, here he is, he's at the beginning of this.

0:06:29 > 0:06:31It's a hugely competitive area.

0:06:31 > 0:06:36What is it that's going to make a concert pianist for today stand out

0:06:36 > 0:06:38in this very competitive environment?

0:06:38 > 0:06:44It's very difficult because there are thousands wanting to be concert pianists.

0:06:44 > 0:06:49Obviously, natural virtuosity, the ability to learn and to conquer the instrument.

0:06:49 > 0:06:51All the obvious things.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53Depth of interpretation, understanding,

0:06:53 > 0:06:58the ability to listen to oneself, to hear the piano while playing it.

0:06:58 > 0:07:02Also, charisma for the audience, having that quality that forces

0:07:02 > 0:07:08the listener to empathise with you while you're playing and to force the public to listen.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11Essentially, if you want to master it, you have to start young.

0:07:11 > 0:07:14I think so, on the whole, there's always exceptions.

0:07:14 > 0:07:18Usually, people do start pretty young - six, seven, eight.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20To conquer music...

0:07:20 > 0:07:24People can be extraordinarily brilliant at music at an early age.

0:07:24 > 0:07:28More than anything else, mathematics is the equivalent.

0:07:28 > 0:07:32One must be born with talent. That is the most important thing.

0:07:32 > 0:07:38You must be born with talent and then you can only develop it when there's nothing to learn.

0:07:38 > 0:07:40You can't learn talent.

0:07:45 > 0:07:49There's no question, becoming a concert pianist is an olympian task

0:07:49 > 0:07:52and it certainly helps to start young.

0:07:52 > 0:07:58Not all but most of today's top pianists began playing at an extremely early age.

0:08:01 > 0:08:05Piano for me is like my childhood friend.

0:08:05 > 0:08:10My parents bought a piano, an upright piano for me

0:08:10 > 0:08:14when I was one year and eight months,

0:08:14 > 0:08:16almost two years old.

0:08:18 > 0:08:23My mother tells me I started to play the piano when I was three.

0:08:23 > 0:08:25I was just a kid who played the piano.

0:08:27 > 0:08:31I guess nature decided for me from the beginning.

0:08:34 > 0:08:38I started to play the piano at aged two,

0:08:38 > 0:08:43or to be precise, when I was two years and two months old -

0:08:43 > 0:08:47as soon as I was tall enough to reach the keyboard.

0:09:01 > 0:09:04Do you have a first memory of the piano?

0:09:04 > 0:09:06When you first heard a piano?

0:09:06 > 0:09:07No!

0:09:10 > 0:09:11I don't think I was a Mozart

0:09:11 > 0:09:15and went up to the piano and started playing when I was about three.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17I started when I was about six and a half.

0:09:17 > 0:09:19I think then I wasn't really

0:09:19 > 0:09:22very determined and confident.

0:09:22 > 0:09:25I didn't want to practise a lot.

0:09:25 > 0:09:28I suppose a bit more like Beethoven,

0:09:28 > 0:09:31he tried to avoid music lessons when he was younger.

0:09:31 > 0:09:35Over the years, I got used to it and it grew on me.

0:09:35 > 0:09:39There has to be a moment when you think to yourself,

0:09:39 > 0:09:45- I want to do this. - I remember a couple of years ago,

0:09:45 > 0:09:48playing on the stage at the local cricket pavilion, the concert hall,

0:09:48 > 0:09:53a charity ball or something.

0:09:53 > 0:09:58When I came off, I said to my mum, I really want to be a concert pianist.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01I had so much fun being on that stage and playing to the people.

0:10:01 > 0:10:05So there's definitely a performer in you,

0:10:05 > 0:10:09someone who likes the appreciation of the audience?

0:10:09 > 0:10:14Likes that scary moment when you get up on stage? Is it scary?

0:10:14 > 0:10:18No. It's fun, I suppose.

0:10:18 > 0:10:22When you receive the audience's applause it's...

0:10:23 > 0:10:27..I suppose it gives you self-confidence.

0:10:30 > 0:10:36There's no doubt that Ben has the necessary enthusiasm as well as a huge dose of natural talent,

0:10:36 > 0:10:39but he also needs to be immensely dedicated.

0:10:39 > 0:10:44He practises for up to eight hours a day, six days a week.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49On Sundays, he travels up to London with his mother

0:10:49 > 0:10:56for lessons with Christopher Elton, head of the piano department at the Royal Academy Of Music.

0:11:10 > 0:11:12There are different types of prodigy.

0:11:12 > 0:11:14In a way, I don't like using the word.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17There are those who're incredibly well developed physically.

0:11:17 > 0:11:21They can tear around the piano in a very gymnastic way.

0:11:21 > 0:11:23There are also people who are prodigious in,

0:11:23 > 0:11:29just somehow, and who knows where from, having a deep understanding,

0:11:29 > 0:11:33sensitivity and even spirituality.

0:11:33 > 0:11:35For me, this is the more interesting one

0:11:35 > 0:11:41and I would have to say that Benjamin is stronger on that front than the purely pianistic front for his age.

0:11:41 > 0:11:44He's capable of giving a performance which is very moving,

0:11:44 > 0:11:48which has enormous integrity to it, which is natural.

0:11:48 > 0:11:53He finds his own voice in many ways, but he also works very hard

0:11:53 > 0:11:59at the physical side of things, as has to be done, in order to be able

0:11:59 > 0:12:02to deliver and to communicate what it is he wants to say.

0:12:06 > 0:12:08Change, change...

0:12:08 > 0:12:10Good.

0:12:19 > 0:12:20Hold on...

0:12:20 > 0:12:22That was fine, the pedalling there.

0:12:22 > 0:12:26The first time, there was almost none which is a fantastic way to practise it.

0:12:26 > 0:12:33There's no point evading the fact that playing the piano is physical to a large extent.

0:12:33 > 0:12:37It's easier to train physically when you're young, to develop muscles

0:12:37 > 0:12:40which are supple, to develop strength when you're young.

0:12:40 > 0:12:46If a pianist hasn't got the basic technique really sorted out by the time they're 15 or 16, they may

0:12:46 > 0:12:50advance and get very good, but there are always going to be some hang-ups,

0:12:50 > 0:12:56feelings of insecurity, fillings that they aren't naturally developed enough.

0:13:01 > 0:13:05How does this all fit into your school routine? I take it you still have to go to school.

0:13:05 > 0:13:08I have quite a lot of time off school.

0:13:08 > 0:13:12I have 16 free periods a week off.

0:13:12 > 0:13:14It's quite a lot of time.

0:13:14 > 0:13:20With school, I don't really get the amount of practice I want to get done.

0:13:20 > 0:13:26I'd like to practice eight hours a day, but I can't do that because of school.

0:13:26 > 0:13:30What do you do in your time off or don't you get any?

0:13:32 > 0:13:34Most of the time, I'm practising.

0:13:34 > 0:13:39You get enough satisfaction without worrying about all the things you're missing.

0:13:39 > 0:13:42I don't really see what I am missing,

0:13:42 > 0:13:46because it's not like... I do do other things.

0:13:46 > 0:13:48I'm not always on the piano.

0:13:48 > 0:13:51Most of the time, I'm on the piano but I do do other things.

0:13:53 > 0:13:57For the moment, Ben is carrying on at his local grammar school

0:13:57 > 0:14:00with just a weekly visit to London for a lesson.

0:14:00 > 0:14:01But for how much longer?

0:14:01 > 0:14:05Most teenage wannabe pianists will sooner or later head off

0:14:05 > 0:14:10for full-time piano education at one of the music hothouses.

0:14:16 > 0:14:20The Juilliard School in New York attracts piano students from all over the world.

0:14:20 > 0:14:26They come here often at huge personal and financial cost to study.

0:14:26 > 0:14:29Unsurprisingly, there are no slackers at the Juilliard.

0:14:29 > 0:14:35Juilliard provides incomparable atmosphere for budding artists.

0:14:35 > 0:14:41You have to be incredibly strong and confident in a certain way

0:14:41 > 0:14:44to be able to survive the pressures of the school.

0:14:44 > 0:14:46It can ruin a person.

0:14:46 > 0:14:51It's notorious for being a competitive place because everyone plays at such a high level.

0:14:54 > 0:14:58There are 25 students in this college class.

0:14:58 > 0:15:01All of whom come in here

0:15:01 > 0:15:03with the wish to fulfil a dream,

0:15:03 > 0:15:06a dream that they've had since childhood,

0:15:06 > 0:15:10of being able to make music and share it with an audience.

0:15:10 > 0:15:14I would say that almost all of them want to be concert pianists.

0:15:14 > 0:15:19Many of them come in here having no idea what their potential is.

0:15:19 > 0:15:22Some come with inflated views of what they can do,

0:15:22 > 0:15:25some come with very little confidence.

0:15:25 > 0:15:30They all want to find out, find out how far they can take it, and that's what they're here for.

0:15:53 > 0:16:00The one common thread here is their love of music, which becomes almost their religion.

0:16:13 > 0:16:18I was five and half and I started winning competitions after competitions.

0:16:18 > 0:16:22Finally, my piano teacher said

0:16:22 > 0:16:26"There's no more room for her to grow artistically here.

0:16:26 > 0:16:29"I feel like I've taught everything I know.

0:16:29 > 0:16:35"You should take her to America where there are more opportunities and more...

0:16:35 > 0:16:39"I guess, just a wider horizon for music."

0:16:39 > 0:16:45My mother took me here when I was... I think I just turned 11.

0:16:50 > 0:16:54She was always a very successful businesswoman in China.

0:16:54 > 0:16:59We had a very well established life and were comfortable.

0:16:59 > 0:17:03When we came here, all of a sudden, we were starting from the beginning.

0:17:07 > 0:17:14Given the incredible opportunity to do it and to have my parents go against all odds

0:17:14 > 0:17:22to make that possible for me, has only fuelled this drive that I've always had to be successful at this.

0:17:22 > 0:17:25I love playing and I love performing.

0:17:33 > 0:17:36Yeah, I basically just work!

0:17:42 > 0:17:48Because of the enormous pressures, students need to be actively discouraged from overplaying.

0:17:52 > 0:17:59An optimum number of hours for practising for a concert pianist is between four and five.

0:17:59 > 0:18:04Six is a maximum and beyond that, the law of diminishing returns starts setting in.

0:18:04 > 0:18:09The muscles are worn, they're depleted of blood

0:18:09 > 0:18:13and fluid supplies and they're much more likely to become injured.

0:18:21 > 0:18:29At some point, it becomes apparent which students have the potential to make the transition into artists.

0:18:36 > 0:18:42I know that a student has the making of an artist when you give them an idea and they fly with it.

0:18:42 > 0:18:44They don't just...

0:18:44 > 0:18:46simply reproduce what you tell them.

0:18:46 > 0:18:51They take the idea and take it a step further

0:18:51 > 0:18:54and that step opens the door for them.

0:19:00 > 0:19:06Teachers in general can teach them what to do at this spot, what to do at that spot.

0:19:06 > 0:19:09Once you get that down in your system,

0:19:09 > 0:19:12you have to go into a practice room

0:19:12 > 0:19:17and think about it all over again from the first note to the last.

0:19:17 > 0:19:21I'm quite surprised when we have masterclasses

0:19:21 > 0:19:27and somebody else is playing the same piece that I worked on.

0:19:27 > 0:19:33We have the same teacher but it sounds totally different and I don't understand how that can be.

0:19:33 > 0:19:35That's when the personality thing kicks in.

0:19:49 > 0:19:57The scene today is such that the percentages of the people who are actually going to make it is low.

0:19:57 > 0:20:00They know realistically that their chances

0:20:00 > 0:20:07of making it are slim statistically, but they want the chance to try so that there are no regrets later on.

0:20:07 > 0:20:11They give it their best shot and some are lucky, some are not.

0:20:19 > 0:20:27In my last 20 to 30 years of listening to young pianists, I remember only

0:20:27 > 0:20:34maybe a couple or three whom I say, I think you can make a big career.

0:20:34 > 0:20:40So every year, hundreds of brilliant piano students get to the end of a training for which they've literally

0:20:40 > 0:20:46given up the whole of their life so far, only to discover there's still a long way to go.

0:20:46 > 0:20:50If they're serious about being a pianist on the concert stage,

0:20:50 > 0:20:54they'll need to continue studying, maybe with one of the great masters.

0:20:54 > 0:20:57I had a few very fine pupils.

0:20:57 > 0:20:59I have a passion for it.

0:20:59 > 0:21:02- I love it. - What do you try to communicate?

0:21:02 > 0:21:06What is it that you want to teach, to instil into them?

0:21:06 > 0:21:12I not so much communicate, I try to discover who they are for them.

0:21:12 > 0:21:18I think that one has relied too much, too long on methods for everyone,

0:21:18 > 0:21:21and that's very wrong in art.

0:21:21 > 0:21:29The great master, the great professor, the one who discovers possibilities and impossibilities

0:21:29 > 0:21:34in his pupil. I have good results with it, I must say.

0:21:34 > 0:21:40You have to develop something powerful, authentic and original to say about the music that you play.

0:21:40 > 0:21:44That means a profundity of soul and an insight into the music.

0:21:44 > 0:21:47That's something you can't tell if it's going to come.

0:21:47 > 0:21:49It can come along later than you expect or not at all.

0:21:49 > 0:21:56Just absolutely brilliant, pianistic, virtuosity is in the end uninteresting

0:21:56 > 0:21:59and won't feed a whole life.

0:21:59 > 0:22:06The Portuguese pianist, Maria Joao Pires, is one of the great figures on the world concert platform

0:22:06 > 0:22:13and an inspirational teacher, who gives masterclasses to a select group of exceptional students.

0:22:13 > 0:22:15Now, what is the meaning of this?

0:22:16 > 0:22:19What means this?

0:22:19 > 0:22:20What do you feel?

0:22:20 > 0:22:24I feel like it's not a clear image, like a ghost

0:22:24 > 0:22:28that is passing by, that you can never really see what it really is.

0:22:30 > 0:22:33But after, you have felt this...

0:22:35 > 0:22:39Then you cannot play, ba ba ba ba...

0:22:39 > 0:22:43because it doesn't fit. Feel with your body, don't feel it here,

0:22:43 > 0:22:48don't hear what I am saying, I am not talking to you.

0:22:48 > 0:22:51I don't exist. You are...

0:22:51 > 0:22:54You are...feeling now something.

0:22:54 > 0:22:58I'm just helping you to feel something.

0:22:58 > 0:23:00Feel it with all your being.

0:23:01 > 0:23:03(Go, go, go, go!)

0:23:11 > 0:23:13Why is it staccato?

0:23:14 > 0:23:16Who says? You?

0:23:16 > 0:23:19You're feeling that it is staccato?

0:23:19 > 0:23:21Really? Promise me?

0:23:21 > 0:23:24My feeling of...

0:23:24 > 0:23:26My brain says...

0:23:26 > 0:23:32My sense of style says I have to play everything staccato.

0:23:35 > 0:23:38- Also not good.- No!

0:23:40 > 0:23:44We encounter most people trying to read literally what the score says.

0:23:44 > 0:23:47The score says a lot of things,

0:23:47 > 0:23:52but we're looking for that thing that is beyond the notes, the bars,

0:23:52 > 0:23:54the crescendo, the innuendo there.

0:23:54 > 0:23:57It is a safe haven for teachers.

0:23:57 > 0:24:01Most teachers rely on a literal reading, very accurate,

0:24:01 > 0:24:05exact reading of what's written. Then you hear this music

0:24:05 > 0:24:09played this way and it's that - it doesn't express anything.

0:24:09 > 0:24:12It is very literal reading of the score.

0:24:12 > 0:24:16As Mahler used to say, the print of the score

0:24:16 > 0:24:20has everything you need to know about the music except the essential.

0:24:22 > 0:24:23Time.

0:24:40 > 0:24:45What is the difference between my way of playing and yours?

0:24:46 > 0:24:49It is just one thing

0:24:49 > 0:24:51and one little thing.

0:24:53 > 0:24:57I think it's something to do

0:24:57 > 0:25:00with giving space

0:25:00 > 0:25:01to certain notes.

0:25:01 > 0:25:06The space is given by time. No time,

0:25:06 > 0:25:09all the world is mine.

0:25:09 > 0:25:13I have the space, I don't have to do.

0:25:13 > 0:25:15I just feel.

0:25:25 > 0:25:27Time.

0:25:30 > 0:25:37The paradox of being a pianist is that much of your life is spent in almost monastic isolation,

0:25:37 > 0:25:42in the relentless soul-searching business of practising alone at the keyboard.

0:25:42 > 0:25:46But eventually, you have to emerge in front of a large crowd of people

0:25:46 > 0:25:50and perform for an hour or even two on a stage.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53There's no doubt that part of our fascination with the pianist,

0:25:53 > 0:25:58lies in witnessing something very private being revealed in public.

0:26:01 > 0:26:05The business of people playing music, for others listening to music,

0:26:05 > 0:26:09in the ceremony of a concert hall is incredibly important.

0:26:09 > 0:26:15Not only is it some form of social gathering and it's a ritual, but people love to be played to.

0:26:15 > 0:26:20People who play music yearn to play for others, so there's an osmosis

0:26:20 > 0:26:25between performer and audience, which is the heart of music.

0:26:25 > 0:26:32The recordings are fantastic things, incredibly useful, a wonderful gift to a musical civilisation,

0:26:32 > 0:26:38but the truth is the danger of the concert, the risk of the theatre of a concert where so much

0:26:38 > 0:26:42can go wrong and so much can go mysteriously right.

0:26:42 > 0:26:47Where in the best moments, a magic performer playing a great piece can hypnotise hundreds,

0:26:47 > 0:26:51if not thousands of people and take them to another world and move them very deeply.

0:26:53 > 0:26:56A young pianist who's recently joined the upper echelons

0:26:56 > 0:27:02of the piano world, is the 22-year-old Chinese virtuoso, Lang Lang.

0:27:06 > 0:27:10'Five minutes, please. Five minutes, thank you.'

0:27:10 > 0:27:16Lang Lang now performs an exhausting schedule of concerts right around the world.

0:27:16 > 0:27:21Tomorrow, he's playing in Berlin, but tonight, it's Symphony Hall in Birmingham.

0:27:24 > 0:27:27Talking about performance day which is a great subject to talk.

0:27:27 > 0:27:34It is a little bit hard because now I have 100 concerts a year.

0:27:34 > 0:27:39And so basically three days, one concert, plus the travelling.

0:27:39 > 0:27:44It's very different between the performances.

0:27:50 > 0:27:58Before the concert, I rehearse a little bit and normally I like to eat some chocolate or fruit.

0:27:58 > 0:28:04Also I just like to stand up, not playing piano, but just thinking about this music

0:28:04 > 0:28:08and then start...not conducting,

0:28:08 > 0:28:11because I really don't know how to conduct,

0:28:11 > 0:28:13but something...

0:28:13 > 0:28:19Look out to the moon and start touching the air.

0:28:22 > 0:28:27Sometimes I start thinking about images, or thinking about

0:28:27 > 0:28:30a good vacation, lying on a beach or in a mountain.

0:28:30 > 0:28:33Basically thinking about nature.

0:28:33 > 0:28:40Sometimes I even play with closed eyes and it's very helpful.

0:28:40 > 0:28:41Very helpful.

0:28:41 > 0:28:45'All soloists, this is your call to the stage, please. Thank you.'

0:29:05 > 0:29:10Perhaps I don't think I need to be nervous.

0:29:12 > 0:29:15Even when you're nervous, it can start to help you.

0:29:20 > 0:29:23Please go, I don't want to be late!

0:29:27 > 0:29:32Maybe the first time I performed, you're quite nervous when you walk the stage.

0:29:32 > 0:29:39Then you see the audience, the piano, the light in the concert hall, it is very warm.

0:29:39 > 0:29:43For me, that's the reason I love to perform.

0:29:55 > 0:29:58When I was five, I gave the first recital.

0:29:58 > 0:30:04In the beginning, I was nervous because I didn't know what the stage was like.

0:30:04 > 0:30:08The stage lights are there, it's very beautiful.

0:30:08 > 0:30:12Basically it is big yellow shining lights

0:30:12 > 0:30:17and then you don't feel any cold, or any nervousness.

0:30:17 > 0:30:20It feels like home sweet home.

0:31:03 > 0:31:07This piece, it's the Beethoven Piano Concerto Number Four.

0:31:07 > 0:31:09It's quite a religious piece.

0:31:09 > 0:31:16It is very mysterious and the second movement is like a mystery.

0:31:16 > 0:31:19It's like how to solve mystery.

0:31:19 > 0:31:23It is like, kind of a pre-movement.

0:31:42 > 0:31:47Then I think the most sad thing is the end of the piece.

0:31:47 > 0:31:49This note...

0:31:57 > 0:32:00It is dead inside.

0:34:26 > 0:34:29I do find it easy to play, but I certainly find to play the piano

0:34:29 > 0:34:32is such an enjoyable thing to do in life.

0:34:32 > 0:34:38Sometimes I'm tired, but after I play a few notes...

0:34:38 > 0:34:43Those don't count, but I play something!

0:34:43 > 0:34:49Then I'm like... It's like I get out from a vacation for 10 days.

0:34:49 > 0:34:52It is that kind of freshness.

0:35:20 > 0:35:23APPLAUSE

0:35:39 > 0:35:44Are you cultivating a personality for your concert performances?

0:35:44 > 0:35:46I don't want to play concerts.

0:35:46 > 0:35:48I don't like to dress up.

0:35:48 > 0:35:55I don't imagine myself going on with tails and flapping out of the seat!

0:35:55 > 0:35:58I play in a BHS shirt!

0:36:00 > 0:36:02Totally casual I suppose.

0:36:02 > 0:36:09I tried all my life to find the best way of feeling well-disposed for a concert.

0:36:09 > 0:36:15I spend the day eating a big steak at luncheon, I lie down to rest.

0:36:15 > 0:36:18I read a book,

0:36:18 > 0:36:22I go for a short walk, I had slept 10 hours that night.

0:36:22 > 0:36:26Everything that a little good boy should do, yes?

0:36:26 > 0:36:31In the evening, I come out and suddenly, something drops in me.

0:36:31 > 0:36:33There is no inspiration,

0:36:33 > 0:36:36not a real wish to play.

0:36:36 > 0:36:41On other days, I arrive half dead from a trip. I hadn't slept,

0:36:41 > 0:36:46it was very inconvenient, they didn't give me any good things to eat.

0:36:46 > 0:36:50I'm nervous, very restless,

0:36:50 > 0:36:56I feel weak, I imagine some pains in my arm, a headache.

0:36:56 > 0:37:02I come out to the audience and all those things drop from me

0:37:02 > 0:37:04and I'm the highest of spirits.

0:37:07 > 0:37:11Jo MacGregor, one of Britain's most innovative and popular classical

0:37:11 > 0:37:15musicians, is playing one of the keyboard masterpieces,

0:37:15 > 0:37:19Bach's Goldberg Variations, at London's Wigmore Hall.

0:38:22 > 0:38:30I've waited a long time to play this piece. I've had the score of it for 20 years.

0:38:30 > 0:38:34I didn't think I was anywhere near ready to play this.

0:38:34 > 0:38:38Obviously, I've known the two Glenn Gould recordings since I was young.

0:38:38 > 0:38:42I have lots of recordings of people playing it.

0:38:42 > 0:38:46I just waited until I thought the time was right for me to start playing.

0:38:57 > 0:39:01I always think of these pieces as you make these friendships.

0:39:01 > 0:39:06You take them into your life, if nothing too bad goes wrong with the piece first time round,

0:39:06 > 0:39:08you go, OK, you're part of my life and come back to them.

0:39:08 > 0:39:12Your relationship with them gets deeper and deeper.

0:39:12 > 0:39:14There's an element of...

0:39:14 > 0:39:19a spiritual connection that you have with these pieces.

0:39:22 > 0:39:27When you practise the piano for hours every day, for months and years,

0:39:27 > 0:39:30which is what you're doing, even when travelling,

0:39:30 > 0:39:34there are certain parts of you that become very focused.

0:39:34 > 0:39:38You learn to deal with solitude, learn to...

0:39:38 > 0:39:42direct your time on your own. You become very self-sufficient.

0:39:42 > 0:39:46You also begin to have a strong fantasy life.

0:39:46 > 0:39:49You have a strong creative landscape.

0:39:49 > 0:39:55You become somebody who reacts strongly to pieces

0:39:55 > 0:40:01and you extract things from them that can only come because you've spent hundreds of hours on these pieces.

0:40:01 > 0:40:04That's what the audience sees on stage.

0:40:29 > 0:40:32You have to be not mad while you're doing it too.

0:40:32 > 0:40:35You have to keep things in proportion.

0:40:35 > 0:40:37You feel very cut off

0:40:37 > 0:40:42sometimes when you're playing and become so...

0:40:42 > 0:40:43self-critical,

0:40:43 > 0:40:48so hard on yourself if things don't go well.

0:40:48 > 0:40:49That can be hard.

0:40:56 > 0:41:01I've always thought that pianists, like boxers, should have trainers in the corner.

0:41:01 > 0:41:05You go back to them after each piece and they go, "You're doing really well!"

0:41:05 > 0:41:09You don't have that, as a pianist, you're on your own.

0:41:09 > 0:41:13You do it for yourself and have to be very strong.

0:42:09 > 0:42:12It's interesting to me how you...

0:42:12 > 0:42:14you think to yourself, "I want to be a pianist.

0:42:14 > 0:42:18"Lots of people have played this, lots of people I've admired."

0:42:18 > 0:42:21How do you make it your own, the pieces? Is that easy to do?

0:42:21 > 0:42:28Well, the Chopin Ballade, I've got about...ten recordings of it.

0:42:28 > 0:42:31I listen to all of them.

0:42:31 > 0:42:35From them, I get my own interpretation of it.

0:42:35 > 0:42:39What do you think it is that you want to bring to those pieces when you listen?

0:42:39 > 0:42:42What is it that you have to offer do you think?

0:42:42 > 0:42:45- It's got to sound natural. - What do you mean by natural?

0:42:45 > 0:42:52If it doesn't sound convincing, you can do anything, but if it sounds convincing it will sound all right.

0:42:52 > 0:42:58So I suppose you think of your interpretation and keep practising it.

0:42:58 > 0:43:00Make the piece your own.

0:43:00 > 0:43:03There's one bit...

0:43:08 > 0:43:10Rubinstein goes like that.

0:43:10 > 0:43:12I prefer it to go...

0:43:21 > 0:43:25So, we all do it differently I suppose.

0:43:51 > 0:43:55Rachmaninov's second piano concerto is one of the most popular

0:43:55 > 0:43:57and frequently performed pieces in the repertoire.

0:43:57 > 0:44:03The challenge for every pianist is to somehow forge a fresh interpretation.

0:44:12 > 0:44:19Top British pianist, Stephen Hough, received widespread acclaim for his recent Rachmaninov recording -

0:44:19 > 0:44:23an interpretation in the spirit of the composer's own playing.

0:44:23 > 0:44:28Today he's rehearsing the work with conductor Richard Hickox and the National Orchestra Of Wales.

0:44:30 > 0:44:34Rachmaninov's second is perhaps the most popular piano concerto

0:44:34 > 0:44:38because it's just a most beautiful piece of music.

0:44:38 > 0:44:43It's filled with gorgeous tunes and everyone loves a great melody.

0:44:43 > 0:44:47The piece is fascinating for all sorts of reasons, partly because of its popularity.

0:44:47 > 0:44:52Something that, 100 years after it was written, is still the most popular concerto.

0:44:52 > 0:44:54It has to be doing something right.

0:44:54 > 0:44:57It's a very well-constructed piece.

0:44:57 > 0:45:00I don't think there are any bars in it that you feel could be cut.

0:45:00 > 0:45:06It's very exciting. It's a wonderful piece to sit in an audience and listen to.

0:45:06 > 0:45:09We know that Rachmaninov was a nervous performer.

0:45:09 > 0:45:12We're told that sometimes he had to be pushed onto the platform.

0:45:12 > 0:45:15He was terrified of playing in public.

0:45:15 > 0:45:18I have a personal feeling about the piece.

0:45:18 > 0:45:25It's perfect for the nervous pianist because it begins with some chords to warm up, to feel the instrument.

0:45:25 > 0:45:29You're sitting down at the piano and thinking, what's this like?

0:45:31 > 0:45:34You're playing these chords to feel the instrument.

0:45:34 > 0:45:36Then you reach the big one.

0:45:46 > 0:45:50From that moment, you can't hear the piano for another two minutes.

0:45:50 > 0:45:55He's playing lots of notes, warming his fingers, but he's given this luscious theme to the orchestra.

0:45:55 > 0:45:58They're covering him, perhaps deliberately,

0:45:58 > 0:46:01because you always are nervous - am I warmed up enough?

0:46:10 > 0:46:14Here you try the piano out, play for two minutes without anyone

0:46:14 > 0:46:17hearing whether you're playing any wrong notes.

0:46:17 > 0:46:22Then you have a glorious melody to prove what a marvellous lyrical gift you have.

0:46:43 > 0:46:49Whenever I learn a new piece for the first time, I've got to want to play it.

0:46:49 > 0:46:53That is the first stage. If you want to play a piece because you love it

0:46:53 > 0:46:57and feel you have something to say about it, it's a good start.

0:46:59 > 0:47:05It's not the sort of inspiration when you're sitting in a field, looking at the sky thinking

0:47:05 > 0:47:12artistic thoughts. It's graft. It's sitting on a piano stool with a piano there, a pencil and a score,

0:47:12 > 0:47:18cutting through the thicket of this music and finding your way to the heart of what the music is about.

0:47:18 > 0:47:20This is hard work.

0:47:42 > 0:47:47For me, to avoid listening to too many other recordings or performances is essential.

0:47:47 > 0:47:52To know the tradition and the tradition of Rachmaninov,

0:47:52 > 0:47:56of the composer's own style of playing and the pianist that he liked,

0:47:56 > 0:48:01but once you have that language, you have to speak your own words with it.

0:48:10 > 0:48:16I hope that having something original to say makes it worth going to the other side of the world

0:48:16 > 0:48:23and stepping out onto the stage and wanting to share what I feel about piece with the audience.

0:48:33 > 0:48:39I think this burning quality, this compulsion to play, it should be there in every human being.

0:48:39 > 0:48:45In order to live a full life, you have to burn about something.

0:48:50 > 0:48:55Let's not pretend that this is a nicely air-conditioned room.

0:48:55 > 0:48:57This is a furnace at times and so it should be.

0:48:57 > 0:49:02You're dealing with things which are at the heart of what it means to live a meaningful life.

0:49:34 > 0:49:38Fantastic. Thank you, Stephen. Bravo!

0:49:38 > 0:49:45Stephen Hough is one of Benjamin Grosvenor's two favourite pianists, the other is Yevgeny Kissin.

0:49:48 > 0:49:50I admire Kissin's phenomenal technique.

0:49:50 > 0:49:53It's amazing really.

0:49:53 > 0:49:54It's to be in awe of.

0:49:54 > 0:49:58I like the sound he creates.

0:49:58 > 0:50:04He can play extremely fast and can get round notes octaves down the piano.

0:50:06 > 0:50:09He's extremely confident on the stage.

0:50:09 > 0:50:11He is known to have nerves of steel!

0:50:12 > 0:50:15Kissin started the piano earlier than I did.

0:50:15 > 0:50:20I know that he was always doing technical exercises like thirds and tenths.

0:50:20 > 0:50:24I'm always preparing pieces and I don't get time to do the technical exercises.

0:50:24 > 0:50:27He did the two Chopin piano concerto's when he was 12.

0:50:27 > 0:50:31I'm going to do that next autumn.

0:50:31 > 0:50:33I'm trying to follow in his footsteps.

0:50:33 > 0:50:36I'm a bit behind him.

0:50:44 > 0:50:48Russian prodigy, Yevgeny Kissin, exploded onto the world stage

0:50:48 > 0:50:54in the 1990s, astounding audiences with the physical virtuosity of his playing.

0:50:54 > 0:51:00He was the first ever solo artist to perform an entire prom concert at the Royal Albert Hall.

0:51:00 > 0:51:06For young players like Benjamin Grosvenor, Kissin is undoubtedly the pianist pin-up of the moment.

0:51:06 > 0:51:12I've been very lucky because from since when I was a child, I was in very good hands.

0:51:14 > 0:51:17My teachers as well as those of my parents.

0:51:19 > 0:51:22Looking back, I realised that...

0:51:26 > 0:51:31..they brought me up in the right way.

0:51:31 > 0:51:35I became famous quite early.

0:51:35 > 0:51:38And...

0:51:38 > 0:51:45they realised how a child should be brought up in such circumstances.

0:51:46 > 0:51:50They kept criticising me all the time,

0:51:50 > 0:51:54and looking back I realised that was the right thing to do.

0:51:54 > 0:51:58However, I also know that by nature,

0:51:58 > 0:52:03I have never been ambitious, let alone vain.

0:52:05 > 0:52:07So...

0:52:07 > 0:52:13As far as I can remember, I never really cared

0:52:13 > 0:52:19when other people used to speak about me and my playing

0:52:19 > 0:52:21in some lofty terms.

0:52:23 > 0:52:29As I say, what I cared about most was music itself, music as such.

0:52:31 > 0:52:34Usually, the number...

0:52:35 > 0:52:41..of my concerts remains below 50 per year.

0:52:43 > 0:52:48The paradox is that I love playing in public.

0:52:48 > 0:52:50On the other hand,

0:52:50 > 0:52:54each concert...is an event for me.

0:52:54 > 0:52:59I could also say that each concert is a stress for me.

0:53:01 > 0:53:06Kissin is notorious for his total dedication and note-perfect performances.

0:53:06 > 0:53:12This afternoon, he's rehearsing hard in an empty Royal Festival Hall for the evening's recital.

0:53:40 > 0:53:42I give a lot.

0:53:42 > 0:53:48I give everything I have at that particular moment during my concerts.

0:53:48 > 0:53:51So, I need some time

0:53:51 > 0:53:55to sort of refill myself.

0:54:01 > 0:54:06I often have problems falling asleep afterwards. Why?

0:54:06 > 0:54:14Do I keep hearing the music I played a few hours earlier in my ears?

0:54:14 > 0:54:16No, not necessarily.

0:54:16 > 0:54:20Do I keep thinking about it? No.

0:54:23 > 0:54:28During my concerts, my adrenalin boils

0:54:28 > 0:54:34to such a high temperature that it takes a while for it to cool down.

0:54:35 > 0:54:39Also, after my concerts...

0:54:41 > 0:54:48..when I put on my trousers, I realise each time that I've lost weight.

0:54:58 > 0:55:05Sometimes, I'm being asked if I ever want to escape from music

0:55:05 > 0:55:08and my answer is no.

0:55:08 > 0:55:13I simply wouldn't find it possible.

0:55:13 > 0:55:20Even if I don't touch the piano for several weeks in a row, that doesn't mean that I'm escaping from music.

0:55:20 > 0:55:24Music is always in me

0:55:24 > 0:55:26and will always remain there.

0:55:26 > 0:55:28This is the way I am.

0:56:10 > 0:56:14Why do we try to communicate something?

0:56:14 > 0:56:19Why do people still come and want to be communicated, want to receive a message?

0:56:19 > 0:56:22That is the main question.

0:56:22 > 0:56:25Art is not just entertainment.

0:56:25 > 0:56:28I never thought that from my childhood.

0:56:28 > 0:56:31Art is something terribly essential, terribly important.

0:56:31 > 0:56:35It communicates something eternal.

0:56:35 > 0:56:38When it doesn't, then it's entertainment.

0:56:38 > 0:56:41When I make music,

0:56:41 > 0:56:43it is so heavenly.

0:56:43 > 0:56:46I am in love with music.

0:56:46 > 0:56:50Actually, when I play, I make love.

0:56:50 > 0:56:52It is the same thing.

0:57:00 > 0:57:08If there's one thing that unites all of these pianists, it must be their absolute and obsessive commitment.

0:57:11 > 0:57:15The great technical challenge of the piano, is that basically

0:57:15 > 0:57:20it's a machine, you press a key and it makes a sound.

0:57:20 > 0:57:24What pianists do, is dedicate their waking life,

0:57:24 > 0:57:30practically their whole being, into battling with this machine, to make that sound their own.

0:57:30 > 0:57:34It's a subtle and yet superhuman struggle

0:57:34 > 0:57:40and it's this struggle that can make the performance of great pianists feel so close to musical perfection.

0:57:42 > 0:57:47Benjamin, of course, will never need to find out how to be a great pianist.

0:57:47 > 0:57:50He'll either be one or he won't.

0:58:06 > 0:58:09You can see more of Benjamin Grosvenor's Proms performance

0:58:09 > 0:58:12when he returns to the Royal Albert Hall

0:58:12 > 0:58:15and is joined by the National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain.

0:58:15 > 0:58:18That's on BBC2 on 13th August.

0:58:18 > 0:58:23E-mail subtitling@bbc.co.uk