Harry Nilsson: The Missing Beatle

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0:00:02 > 0:00:07This programme contains some strong language.

0:00:07 > 0:00:10MUSIC PLAYS

0:00:18 > 0:00:21Thank you.

0:00:21 > 0:00:2825 years ago I had the good fortune of playing a character in a film called Midnight Cowboy.

0:00:33 > 0:00:37I was rehearsing this speech here yesterday

0:00:37 > 0:00:41and I came in here today and just found out that the wonderful,

0:00:41 > 0:00:45lovely, talented man who sang "Everybody's Talkin'"

0:00:45 > 0:00:49in that movie, Harry Nilsson, died today.

0:00:49 > 0:00:54And it would seem weird not to have an appropriate moment for him.

0:00:54 > 0:00:55He was a great artist.

0:01:02 > 0:01:05# Everybody's talkin' at me

0:01:05 > 0:01:09# I don't hear a word they're sayin'

0:01:09 > 0:01:14# Only the echoes of my mind... #

0:01:14 > 0:01:17Most of the time when I mention him people go, "Who?"

0:01:17 > 0:01:20When you say, "Harry Nilsson, " everybody says, "No, Harry Nilsson?"

0:01:20 > 0:01:24Either they get it right away, or they have no idea.

0:01:24 > 0:01:29# Can't live... If living is without you

0:01:29 > 0:01:30# I can't live... #

0:01:32 > 0:01:36He was the closest thing to an American version of the Beatles.

0:01:36 > 0:01:40# I can't live

0:01:40 > 0:01:42# If living is without you... #

0:01:44 > 0:01:45Beautiful, beautiful voice.

0:01:45 > 0:01:47Soft, velvety.

0:01:47 > 0:01:50And you'd have your headphones on and that voice would come through.

0:01:50 > 0:01:54You almost couldn't play, cos it was so beautiful. Seriously beautiful.

0:01:54 > 0:01:59To me he was always like a fallen angel, so there was this weird combination of

0:01:59 > 0:02:04something heavenly and beatific about him, and then just dirt... and darkness.

0:02:04 > 0:02:10# One is the loneliest number

0:02:10 > 0:02:14# That you'll ever do... #

0:02:14 > 0:02:15Harry would turn up at your door,

0:02:15 > 0:02:22at four o'clock in the morning, and you kinda knew that the next three days of your life

0:02:22 > 0:02:24were going to be an adventure.

0:02:24 > 0:02:28I defer, Harry. Man, I don't know how far you want me to go with this!

0:02:28 > 0:02:31He spent most of his life in pursuit of a good time,

0:02:31 > 0:02:34and he caught it, and, uh, it caught him in the end.

0:02:34 > 0:02:37# The lime and the coconut You take them both together

0:02:37 > 0:02:40# Put the lime and the coconut and you'll feel better... #

0:02:40 > 0:02:46So who was Harry Nilsson, and why is everyone talking about him?

0:02:46 > 0:02:52Well, he was one of the most gifted and certainly the most wayward singer-songwriter of his generation.

0:02:52 > 0:02:56From the moment they first heard him sing, the Beatles declared him

0:02:56 > 0:02:59their soulmate, and their favourite American performer.

0:02:59 > 0:03:05But the man with the bewitching voice was also his own worst enemy.

0:03:05 > 0:03:09It was John Lennon who teamed up with Nilsson in Los Angeles in 1973,

0:03:09 > 0:03:12ostensibly to collaborate on a new album.

0:03:12 > 0:03:18But the pair of them promptly embarked on a notorious round of binge-drinking and drug-taking

0:03:18 > 0:03:24culminating in the now-infamous denouement at the Troubadour nightclub in West Hollywood.

0:03:24 > 0:03:29Tonight, the film-maker John Scheinfeld paints a vivid portrait

0:03:29 > 0:03:33for Imagine of a man known to many as "the missing Beatle".

0:03:33 > 0:03:39Our story begins here in Brooklyn, in Harry's troubled childhood home.

0:04:09 > 0:04:16'I was born Harry Edward Nilsson III on Father's Day, 1941.'

0:04:16 > 0:04:22# Well, in 1941 a happy father had a son

0:04:22 > 0:04:29# And by 1944 the father walked right out the door

0:04:29 > 0:04:34# And in '45 the mom and son were still alive

0:04:34 > 0:04:41# But who could tell in '46 if the two were to survive? #

0:04:41 > 0:04:45It seems to me that it's pretty clear that Harry

0:04:45 > 0:04:49was profoundly disturbed by the fact that he was abandoned by his father.

0:04:49 > 0:04:53To not have had all the conversations,

0:04:53 > 0:04:56with a father, that one would want,

0:04:56 > 0:04:59creates quite a longing heart.

0:04:59 > 0:05:01And he had that.

0:05:01 > 0:05:05Harry, I think, really fought for legitimacy,

0:05:05 > 0:05:09in many ways, fought hard for it.

0:05:12 > 0:05:17'My mother and I lived in an upstairs apartment with six rooms.

0:05:17 > 0:05:23'We lived with my grandmother, my grandfather, two uncles, and my sister, when she was born.

0:05:23 > 0:05:25'That's the way we lived.

0:05:25 > 0:05:28'Crowded, but busy enough not to get bored.

0:05:28 > 0:05:30'I think my mother was always like, she wasn't

0:05:30 > 0:05:34'a stage mother or anything, but I think she, herself, wanted to be in show business at one time.

0:05:34 > 0:05:38'I think that rubbed off on me and, uh, when I was a little child

0:05:38 > 0:05:42'they used to put me on the piano and have me sing songs to the adults, you know.

0:05:42 > 0:05:49'I used to lie in bed when I was about 10 or 11, in the solitude of the small, dark room in Brooklyn.

0:05:49 > 0:05:53'If I wasn't counting to a million or to infinity, I would put

0:05:53 > 0:05:57'a pillow over my head and put on a show for an invisible audience.

0:05:57 > 0:06:04' "And now presenting, me, doing my impression of the great Al Jolson."

0:06:04 > 0:06:08'Then I would mime Al Jolson, # Mammy, how I love you, now I love you... #

0:06:08 > 0:06:11' "Let me ask you, Harry Nilsson, can you do James Cagney?"

0:06:11 > 0:06:13- ' "You dirty rat." ' - I know it was difficult for him.

0:06:13 > 0:06:16I mean, his mom was an alcoholic.

0:06:16 > 0:06:20She ultimately got sober and...very fascinating woman.

0:06:20 > 0:06:23When you met her you could see where Harry came from,

0:06:23 > 0:06:29cos she was like a bigger version of Harry in a lot of ways, that same kind of outwardness and interest.

0:06:29 > 0:06:33She did pretty much whatever she had to do to survive.

0:06:33 > 0:06:37She took whatever job she had to, she lived where she had to.

0:06:37 > 0:06:39She even had to write some checks

0:06:39 > 0:06:43that, uh, didn't always find their way to the bank and get paid.

0:06:44 > 0:06:48But at one point they needed the rent money and, uh, he held up a liquor store.

0:06:48 > 0:06:51I don't know if you know that story or not?

0:06:51 > 0:06:54For 17, and, "Give me 17dollars," you know.

0:06:54 > 0:06:58# The years went passing quickly

0:06:58 > 0:07:01# But not fast enough for him

0:07:01 > 0:07:04# So he closed his eyes till '55

0:07:04 > 0:07:06# Then he opened them up again

0:07:06 > 0:07:10# Then when he looked around he saw a clown

0:07:10 > 0:07:13# And the clown seemed very gay

0:07:13 > 0:07:19# And he said, "I'd like to join that circus clown and run away... #

0:07:19 > 0:07:21'It was 1957.

0:07:21 > 0:07:24'It was June, a hot June.

0:07:24 > 0:07:27'I lost my job as a caddy because of a fight - pushing and

0:07:27 > 0:07:31'shoving, nothing bad, but enough for the Caddy Master to fire me.

0:07:33 > 0:07:37'When I went home that night, I told my aunt and uncle what had happened.

0:07:37 > 0:07:41'And during dinner, my uncle said, "Skeeter, I don't know how to say

0:07:41 > 0:07:45' "this gracefully, but I don't think we can afford you."

0:07:45 > 0:07:47'I didn't hesitate.

0:07:47 > 0:07:51'I simply said, "You won't have to worry about me any more."

0:07:51 > 0:07:57'I left the house feeling like Holden Caulfield - half sad, half scared, half itching to get on the road

0:07:57 > 0:08:02'and start an adventure across country, which would last me a lifetime.

0:08:02 > 0:08:04'I was 15.'

0:08:05 > 0:08:11# Well, he followed every railroad track and every highway sign

0:08:11 > 0:08:15# And he had a girl in each new town

0:08:15 > 0:08:18# And the towns he left behind

0:08:18 > 0:08:23# And the open road Was the only road he knew

0:08:23 > 0:08:29# But the colour of his dream Was slowly turning into blue... #

0:08:30 > 0:08:34'I just turned 18 and I was a dropout.

0:08:34 > 0:08:39'I worked at the Paramount Theatre in Los Angeles for three years, as assistant manager.

0:08:39 > 0:08:43'Anyway, the cashiers were going to work for banks and I figured since I was their boss,

0:08:43 > 0:08:48'and I could reconcile books, so I went and made an application.

0:08:48 > 0:08:50'I wasn't actually a banker.

0:08:50 > 0:08:54'I used to run a computer centre where 132 people were working

0:08:54 > 0:08:58'on what we laughingly called the swing shift, you know.

0:08:58 > 0:09:03'But I supervised the handling of about 200 million a night in cheques.

0:09:06 > 0:09:11'I'd get off work around one o'clock in the morning and, uh, go to the bar...

0:09:11 > 0:09:13'They're open until two in Los Angeles.

0:09:13 > 0:09:18'And drink very quickly. I'd write songs all night.

0:09:18 > 0:09:19'In the daytime I'd hustle the songs.

0:09:19 > 0:09:22'I used to do demos, and did jingles,

0:09:22 > 0:09:25'and hung around with people who were in the business.

0:09:25 > 0:09:29'You meet one, he introduces you to a friend who knows a songwriter, and then knows a producer...

0:09:29 > 0:09:33'And then the ultimate test is when you say, "Can I play you this?" '

0:09:36 > 0:09:39The Monkees were recording an album called Headquarters.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43And, uh, it was the first album that we had been allowed

0:09:43 > 0:09:47to choose all our own material and record everything ourselves.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50I don't remember what happened behind the scenes, but this

0:09:50 > 0:09:55kid showed up, named Harry Nilsson, with a song called Cuddly Toy.

0:09:55 > 0:09:58# You're not the only cuddly toy

0:09:58 > 0:10:01# That was every enjoyed by any boy

0:10:03 > 0:10:05# You're not the only choo-choo train

0:10:05 > 0:10:09# That was left out in the rain The day after Santa came...

0:10:11 > 0:10:13# You're not the only cherry delight

0:10:13 > 0:10:18# That was left in the night And gave up without a fight

0:10:18 > 0:10:21# You're not the only cuddly toy

0:10:21 > 0:10:24That was ever enjoyed by any boy. #

0:10:24 > 0:10:28When Davy Jones said he would, uh, record Cuddly Toy,

0:10:28 > 0:10:33the music publisher that was there, Lester Sill was the guy's name,

0:10:33 > 0:10:38he says, we walked outside in the parking lot and Lester said, "You can quit the bank."

0:10:44 > 0:10:50Ladies and gentlemen, in the center ring, presenting Nilsson

0:10:50 > 0:10:52and his Shandimanium Shadow Po!

0:10:52 > 0:10:54LAUGHTER

0:11:05 > 0:11:08It was difficult to find the right niche.

0:11:08 > 0:11:12It wasn't until he went over to RCA and got with Rick Jarrard.

0:11:12 > 0:11:18I think that Rick Jarrard really played a very important part in his success.

0:11:18 > 0:11:22I felt that Harry had incredible potential,

0:11:22 > 0:11:24that Harry could be a monster artist.

0:11:24 > 0:11:29And frankly, I was probably the only one that really believed that, because he was so different.

0:11:34 > 0:11:37# Years ago I knew a man

0:11:37 > 0:11:42# He was my mother's biggest fan

0:11:42 > 0:11:45# We used to walk beside the sea And he'd tell me how life would be

0:11:45 > 0:11:49# When I grew up to be a man... #

0:11:49 > 0:11:52I think we were at least up to eight-track

0:11:52 > 0:11:56by then, if not 16-track, and he could overdub himself.

0:11:56 > 0:11:59And he was so good at that.

0:11:59 > 0:12:03Sang wonderful harmony lines off the top of his head.

0:12:03 > 0:12:06His voice blended great with himself

0:12:06 > 0:12:11and it just helped open up a whole new area for us to explore.

0:12:11 > 0:12:14A particular record was released, with a lot of these over-dubs,

0:12:14 > 0:12:17and a critic in reviewing the album said,

0:12:17 > 0:12:23"It was a wonderful album and I love the music, but Nilsson should have credited the background singers.

0:12:23 > 0:12:27"They were so great." Not realizing the background singers were Nilsson!

0:12:27 > 0:12:30BACKGROUND SINGING

0:12:37 > 0:12:40I remember at the time saying, "Harry, be careful crossing the street.

0:12:40 > 0:12:46"Be careful just walking around, cos this is going to be a big career and we need you around."

0:12:49 > 0:12:53SCREAMING

0:12:53 > 0:12:56# Get out those disco bonnets

0:12:56 > 0:13:01# Here comes the plane with the Beatles on it

0:13:01 > 0:13:05# Look at John, Paul, George and Ringo

0:13:05 > 0:13:09# One of them's taken but three are single

0:13:09 > 0:13:12# Two bits, four bits, six bits, a dollar

0:13:12 > 0:13:14# All for music... #

0:13:16 > 0:13:22I was still working at the bank. I hated the Beatles, because I thought, they're beating me to the punch.

0:13:22 > 0:13:26And then it was that moment when you said, you're either with 'em or agin 'em.

0:13:26 > 0:13:31I decided to go for the latter and I said "Yeah, they really are that good."

0:13:31 > 0:13:37We'd be arguing about The Beatles and he'd say, "The Beatles are the only band.

0:13:37 > 0:13:39"There's only one band.

0:13:39 > 0:13:41"That's the Beatles. No-one else matters."

0:13:41 > 0:13:45See, I just assumed that people would discover you.

0:13:45 > 0:13:50That they, they would spot in you the talent that I knew I had.

0:13:50 > 0:13:53So one day, I was early, this was five in the morning,

0:13:53 > 0:13:57I got a phone call and there's this voice, long distance,

0:13:57 > 0:13:58"Hello? Hello." "Who is it?"

0:13:58 > 0:14:01"This is John." "John who?"

0:14:01 > 0:14:03"It's John Lennon." "Is this really John?"

0:14:03 > 0:14:06And he says, "Yeah, I just wanted to say, you're fantastic, man,"

0:14:06 > 0:14:10I been listening to you all weekend, it's great, great, you're just fantastic."

0:14:10 > 0:14:14Uh, the following Monday, I got a phone call from Paul, "How are you?

0:14:14 > 0:14:18"Just calling to say you're fantastic, you know? You're great."

0:14:18 > 0:14:21"I really love what you did on all that stuff, you know,

0:14:21 > 0:14:24"Derek played it for us, and I hope to see you soon."

0:14:24 > 0:14:27Clunk. The next Monday morning I got up, combed my hair,

0:14:27 > 0:14:33five o'clock in the morning waiting for a call from Ringo. There was no call.

0:14:33 > 0:14:37But he ended up being our best man at our wedding, so that's OK.

0:14:37 > 0:14:40I would like to spend a few minutes and talk about song construction,

0:14:40 > 0:14:42which is one of the most important parts of songwriting.

0:14:42 > 0:14:46For any aspiring songwriters in the audience, I have a few comments to make.

0:14:46 > 0:14:48First of all, uh, in construction,

0:14:48 > 0:14:50I might say that you have to get to know your song.

0:14:50 > 0:14:53Take it apart, put it back together again,

0:14:53 > 0:14:56keep it clean cos someday in combat it might save your life.

0:14:56 > 0:14:58And that's the... Yes. LAUGHTER

0:14:58 > 0:15:02# Listen to the wailing of the willow

0:15:02 > 0:15:06# Listen to me crying on my pillow

0:15:06 > 0:15:12# Crying for I know my love has gone from me... #

0:15:12 > 0:15:14I thought this was going to be really easy,

0:15:14 > 0:15:16cos I just walked out of the bank, and into

0:15:16 > 0:15:22the recording business, and suddenly I was getting phone calls from Otto Preminger and John Lennon.

0:15:22 > 0:15:25And it was just, "Well, that all there is to it?

0:15:25 > 0:15:28"Nothing to it. Fantastic, I think I'll stay."

0:15:28 > 0:15:30He gained a lot of confidence from that first album,

0:15:30 > 0:15:32a lot of confidence.

0:15:32 > 0:15:35I think finally realised what he could do,

0:15:35 > 0:15:39and what he could be, as an artist, and still remaining honest

0:15:39 > 0:15:42and true to himself.

0:15:42 > 0:15:44There was always a whimsical quality to Harry,

0:15:44 > 0:15:48but the thing that I loved most is the sweetness.

0:15:48 > 0:15:51It was a sweetness and joy and sense of the world and nature,

0:15:51 > 0:15:53like when he writes about his desk.

0:15:53 > 0:15:55You know, he brings things to life. It had that sense

0:15:55 > 0:15:58of whatever he touched or wrote about suddenly sparkled.

0:15:58 > 0:16:03# Now my old desk never needs a rest

0:16:03 > 0:16:07# And I've never once heard it cry

0:16:07 > 0:16:09# I've never seen it tease

0:16:09 > 0:16:15# It's always there to please me from nine to five

0:16:15 > 0:16:18# Such a comfort to know

0:16:18 > 0:16:20# It's dependable and slow

0:16:20 > 0:16:23# But it's always there

0:16:24 > 0:16:26# Well, it's the one friend I've got

0:16:26 > 0:16:29# A giant of our times

0:16:29 > 0:16:33# My good old desk

0:16:33 > 0:16:38# Ooh, wah-wah, wah-wah Wah-wah-wah-wah... #

0:16:42 > 0:16:44I just made that up.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47Good Old Desk was G-O-D.

0:16:47 > 0:16:51That was Harry's way of talking about God.

0:16:51 > 0:16:54He had a lot of conflicts about all of that business

0:16:54 > 0:16:58and so he wrote a song called Good Old Desk.

0:16:58 > 0:17:02And that's the way his mind worked. And I loved that.

0:17:02 > 0:17:04I thought that was just so original.

0:17:04 > 0:17:07MUSIC: INTRO TO "One"

0:17:07 > 0:17:13I was dialling a telephone, I got a busy signal and it was going "beep, beep, beep..."

0:17:13 > 0:17:19# One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do... #

0:17:19 > 0:17:22I just let it stay busy and just wrote it on the phone,

0:17:22 > 0:17:24while I was listening to this busy signal.

0:17:24 > 0:17:27# It's the loneliest number since the number one... #

0:17:29 > 0:17:33He just came on the scene, you know, blasted onto the scene

0:17:33 > 0:17:35and he just started influencing people.

0:17:35 > 0:17:39I'm sure he influenced The Beatles as much as they influenced him.

0:17:41 > 0:17:45Well, everybody's records influence all the minds, you know, at once.

0:17:45 > 0:17:50Everything influences everything. Nilsson's my favourite group.

0:17:50 > 0:17:56# Dreams are nothing more than wishes And a wish is just a dream... #

0:17:56 > 0:18:01The Beatles endorsed Harry. They called him their favourite group.

0:18:01 > 0:18:05Harry was their favourite group.

0:18:05 > 0:18:08I think he was quite pleased about that.

0:18:08 > 0:18:11They, you know, pronounced him to the world and said,

0:18:11 > 0:18:15"Listen to this man" and we did.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17That's one of the first times I've ever seen him,

0:18:17 > 0:18:21kind of, patting himself on the back, and tooting his own horn.

0:18:21 > 0:18:24He said, "You know, they, they think I'm like the fifth Beatle.".

0:18:24 > 0:18:28I got a phone call, and it was from Derek Taylor.

0:18:28 > 0:18:30And, uh, Derek said,

0:18:30 > 0:18:36"Harry, the lads, the boys, would like you

0:18:36 > 0:18:40"to come over and join them at a session they're recording at Abbey Road."

0:18:40 > 0:18:44I thought, "My Jesus. This is about as good as it gets."

0:18:48 > 0:18:52That first night, in London, I spent at John Lennon's house.

0:18:52 > 0:18:57He gives me a hug and he smiled and he put me at ease instantly.

0:18:57 > 0:19:02So, for some reason I thought I could say anything in front of this man and it would be OK.

0:19:02 > 0:19:06That night we spent the entire night with a little help

0:19:06 > 0:19:11from our friends, talking, just sitting and talking,

0:19:11 > 0:19:14all night, till dawn, till seven or eight o'clock in the morning.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16And John and I are on, and on, and on

0:19:16 > 0:19:19about marriage, life, death, divorce, women,

0:19:19 > 0:19:21what's it all about? What are we doing?

0:19:21 > 0:19:25I think that Harry had an incredible respect for John.

0:19:25 > 0:19:27He was like a fan, you know.

0:19:27 > 0:19:30But, um...

0:19:30 > 0:19:34And John loved him too, so...

0:19:34 > 0:19:36it was a good kind of combination, I think.

0:19:36 > 0:19:39He said that he and John were a lot alike,

0:19:39 > 0:19:42that they'd had similar childhoods.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45And, um, I wasn't surprised by that.

0:19:46 > 0:19:51Cos it was clear that John had a lot of anger.

0:19:51 > 0:19:55He didn't hide that. Harry hid it, but John didn't.

0:19:55 > 0:19:58So, I thought that was very interesting.

0:19:58 > 0:20:04Harry, after he went over to England, and was with The Beatles,

0:20:04 > 0:20:09or with John - I really don't know which - he changed.

0:20:11 > 0:20:17He changed and became somebody else that I no longer knew.

0:20:21 > 0:20:25# The willow weeps And having wept can weep no more

0:20:25 > 0:20:29# But still it cries for me It cries in sympathy

0:20:29 > 0:20:34# It knows that you are gone

0:20:34 > 0:20:38# Don't leave me, baby... #

0:20:40 > 0:20:42Out of the blue, I got a telegram that said,

0:20:42 > 0:20:46"I'm finding another producer."

0:20:46 > 0:20:51And, basically, that was the end of Harry's and my relationship.

0:20:51 > 0:20:54And that's a pretty stunning statement to make,

0:20:54 > 0:21:00and I hesitated to say it, but facts are facts and that's what happened.

0:21:00 > 0:21:07I never saw Harry again after that telegram, never spoke to him, never saw him.

0:21:07 > 0:21:09Not out of malice from my point,

0:21:09 > 0:21:12we just never ran into each other or anything.

0:21:12 > 0:21:16I think if I did I would have said, "What was that all about?"

0:21:24 > 0:21:28# Everybody's talkin' at me

0:21:28 > 0:21:32# I don't hear a word they're sayin'

0:21:32 > 0:21:36# Only the echoes of my mind... #

0:21:37 > 0:21:40It was impossible not to be aware of Harry after Midnight Cowboy,

0:21:40 > 0:21:42because that song went everywhere.

0:21:42 > 0:21:47Oh, yeah, yeah. I was a big Nilsson fan. Ever since Midnight Cowboy.

0:21:47 > 0:21:50I mean, how could... His most famous song and he didn't write it.

0:21:50 > 0:21:53I love the irony of that and he would have appreciated that.

0:21:54 > 0:21:58# I'm goin' where the sun keeps shining

0:21:58 > 0:22:01# Through the pourin' rain... #

0:22:01 > 0:22:04He was a brilliant interpreter.

0:22:04 > 0:22:07So he could take that Fred Neil song and make it his own.

0:22:07 > 0:22:12Everybody's Talkin' was not written for Midnight Cowboy.

0:22:12 > 0:22:16It was Harry's single, and it had been out before the film.

0:22:16 > 0:22:19I was approached by Jerry Hellman and John Schlesinger,

0:22:19 > 0:22:23and asked if I'd be interested in writing a title song for Midnight Cowboy.

0:22:23 > 0:22:28They showed me four reels of uncut material, and I thought, "What?

0:22:28 > 0:22:32"This could be the best movie ever made! This is incredible!" I said, "You bet, you bet."

0:22:32 > 0:22:35He wrote I Guess The Lord Must Be In New York City.

0:22:35 > 0:22:38They also went to Bob Dylan, asked him to write a song.

0:22:38 > 0:22:41I understand Dylan wrote Lay, Lady, Lay.

0:22:41 > 0:22:44They also went to Joni Mitchell and asked her to write a song.

0:22:44 > 0:22:46All of them submitted songs to the producers.

0:22:46 > 0:22:50They listened to all the songs and after hearing all this...

0:22:50 > 0:22:54They stuck with Everybody's Talkin', which they had been using as a temporary track

0:22:54 > 0:22:57until they found a song for it. They just got so used to it

0:22:57 > 0:23:01that they didn't want to drop it, and they left it in. Thank you very much.

0:23:01 > 0:23:04Midnight Cowboy won the Oscar for the Best Picture of the year.

0:23:04 > 0:23:06At the same time,

0:23:06 > 0:23:10Harry won the Grammy for the Best Contemporary Vocal Performance.

0:23:10 > 0:23:14# Everybody's talkin' at me

0:23:14 > 0:23:18# Can't hear a word they're sayin'

0:23:18 > 0:23:24# Only the echoes of my mind

0:23:24 > 0:23:31# I won't let you leave my love behind

0:23:32 > 0:23:39# No, I won't let you leave

0:23:39 > 0:23:47# Ohhh, ahhh

0:23:47 > 0:23:50# I won't let you leave... #

0:23:50 > 0:23:55- Hello?- 'Hi, is this Harry?' - Yes.- 'Hi, um, I was going to ask you something.'

0:23:55 > 0:23:57Well, why didn't you?

0:23:57 > 0:24:01- When are you going to have a concert?- Oh, I don't do concerts That's for other people that want to.

0:24:01 > 0:24:04- 'Oh...you're not going to have a concert ever?'- No.

0:24:05 > 0:24:11Many, many people are curious why Harry never performed live,

0:24:11 > 0:24:14didn't make touring a part of his career.

0:24:14 > 0:24:17Didn't go on the road and all of those issues.

0:24:17 > 0:24:20And there are many, many, many answers,

0:24:20 > 0:24:23which are interesting and valid.

0:24:23 > 0:24:26Harry was the most insecure person I've ever known.

0:24:26 > 0:24:29He just didn't have any self-esteem.

0:24:29 > 0:24:31He was quite shy. And I don't think he believed

0:24:31 > 0:24:35that anyone would particularly want to see him on stage.

0:24:35 > 0:24:37He was terrified.

0:24:39 > 0:24:43And I... I don't remember exactly why,

0:24:43 > 0:24:48but he was terrified to do a live performance.

0:24:48 > 0:24:53If the way to become a rock star was to make an album,

0:24:53 > 0:24:56and then go and promote the album, and then go out on tour,

0:24:56 > 0:24:59Harry figured, "I'm going to do it another way.

0:24:59 > 0:25:02"I'm going to find a way to do it. You don't have to go on tour."

0:25:02 > 0:25:06Part of it was about just proving that you didn't have to do it.

0:25:06 > 0:25:10There are very few guys that have had the success that he had

0:25:10 > 0:25:14without doing that, and he almost pulled it off.

0:25:14 > 0:25:19Well, he did pull it off. We're sitting here doing this documentary.

0:25:19 > 0:25:22- I mean...! - HE CHUCKLES

0:25:22 > 0:25:25# Well, isn't it nice the parents would say

0:25:25 > 0:25:28# Well, isn't it nice you've got someone

0:25:28 > 0:25:32# Someone to idolise

0:25:32 > 0:25:34# He must look twice his size

0:25:34 > 0:25:41# I think it's great you're going through a phase... #

0:25:41 > 0:25:45Harry was offered a BBC special, to be produced by Stanley Dorfman,

0:25:45 > 0:25:49who was doing the In Concert series. And in concert means IN CONCERT!

0:25:49 > 0:25:53That means there would be an audience, but Harry didn't do audiences.

0:25:53 > 0:25:55And I said he could do anything he wanted.

0:25:55 > 0:25:58this is BBC, it's not like American television.

0:25:58 > 0:26:01You literally can have the freedom of the studio.

0:26:01 > 0:26:06Once he realised he could come and play, have more of less control of what he wanted to do,

0:26:06 > 0:26:08he said, "Yeah, why not?"

0:26:08 > 0:26:12# Laa, la, la, la

0:26:12 > 0:26:14# Oh, ra, ra-ra-ra-rah

0:26:14 > 0:26:17# Ra, da, da, da Rah-da-da-dah

0:26:17 > 0:26:20# Da, da-doh, da Da, doh-doh, da-dum... #

0:26:38 > 0:26:40We went into a studio

0:26:40 > 0:26:48and one afternoon we made up a show with Harry at the piano.

0:26:50 > 0:26:53He'd do a song and say, "Well, what should we do now?"

0:26:53 > 0:26:56Then he said, "Well, let's do three Harrys."

0:26:56 > 0:27:00# Come on, baby Let the good times roll

0:27:00 > 0:27:03# Come on, baby Let me thrill your soul

0:27:03 > 0:27:07# Yeah, come on baby Let the good times roll

0:27:07 > 0:27:12# Roll all night long

0:27:12 > 0:27:15# Come on, baby Yes, this is real

0:27:15 > 0:27:18# Come on, baby Show me how you feel

0:27:18 > 0:27:22# Yeah, come on, baby Let the good times roll

0:27:22 > 0:27:24# Roll all night long. #

0:27:25 > 0:27:30It was extremely creative from Harry's point of view.

0:27:30 > 0:27:33He was having fun and that's the only way he'd do television.

0:27:33 > 0:27:37# Roll on, roll on, roll on roll on. #

0:27:47 > 0:27:51Um, let's see. I think I'll tell stories about marriage.

0:27:53 > 0:27:55# Life isn't easy when two are divided

0:27:55 > 0:27:58# When one has decided to bring down the curtain

0:27:58 > 0:28:00# And one thing's for certain

0:28:00 > 0:28:02# There's nothing to keep them together. #

0:28:02 > 0:28:07Most people don't know it, but in 1964, Harry got married for the first time.

0:28:07 > 0:28:10The marriage didn't last long, and there were no children.

0:28:10 > 0:28:13Her name was Sandy and I said, "What was that like?"

0:28:13 > 0:28:15He said, "I just did that to get out of the war."

0:28:15 > 0:28:18Obviously, you know, I mean, she was a nice girl.

0:28:18 > 0:28:21I don't know what happened, but that's how he would meet.

0:28:21 > 0:28:23"I just married her to get out of the war."

0:28:23 > 0:28:26So, I guess that was another painful thing.

0:28:26 > 0:28:27He just had a way of doing that.

0:28:27 > 0:28:30If it was painful or he didn't want to talk about it,

0:28:30 > 0:28:33he'd have one-liners that would dismiss it, subject closed.

0:28:33 > 0:28:36# Love when it started was easy to measure

0:28:36 > 0:28:38# Each day was a pleasure

0:28:38 > 0:28:39# Each night an adventure

0:28:39 > 0:28:45# Each morning was something that had to be shared together

0:28:45 > 0:28:48# Love when it's growing is full of surprises

0:28:48 > 0:28:50# Its temperature rises from higher to higher

0:28:50 > 0:28:57# That turns into fire that has to be shared together. #

0:28:57 > 0:29:01Harry got married for a second time New Years Eve of 1969,

0:29:01 > 0:29:04in Vegas, when he married Diane.

0:29:04 > 0:29:08Harry and Diane did have a child, a child named Zak.

0:29:08 > 0:29:10Zachary Nine, N-I-N-E, Nilsson.

0:29:10 > 0:29:19# Little fella, you're so tired you can hardly lift your head

0:29:19 > 0:29:26# But you wanna hear a story before you go to bed

0:29:26 > 0:29:34# So if you'll be quiet and listen patiently

0:29:34 > 0:29:43# I'll sing you a song that my mother sang to me. #

0:29:43 > 0:29:46My dad wrote this thing on a piece of paper,

0:29:46 > 0:29:48for when I was a baby.

0:29:48 > 0:29:52It was just a note to me, even though I couldn't read, or you know,

0:29:52 > 0:29:55wasn't old enough to understand it or anything.

0:29:55 > 0:29:59He wrote this note which basically told me how much he loved me,

0:29:59 > 0:30:05and reading it now, uh, it just makes me realise that he really did.

0:30:05 > 0:30:07"Dear Zak, I stood over you

0:30:07 > 0:30:11"and watched you sleep for 30 minutes this morning.

0:30:11 > 0:30:13"Someday you'll know how I feel as I write these words.

0:30:13 > 0:30:15"You're beautiful.

0:30:15 > 0:30:19"You moved your toes and feet proportionally to the noise I made.

0:30:19 > 0:30:22"You were on top of your blanket, an orange blanket with yellow daisies.

0:30:22 > 0:30:25"Your pacifier was an inch from your mouth.

0:30:25 > 0:30:27"It had obviously been released with sleep.

0:30:27 > 0:30:30"I love you, Big Daddy Schmilsson."

0:30:32 > 0:30:35So, you know, to write something like that...

0:30:36 > 0:30:38..obviously there's something there.

0:30:41 > 0:30:44I don't think Harry was ready to be a father.

0:30:44 > 0:30:47I think he liked the idea,

0:30:47 > 0:30:53but the reality of parenting was just too much for him.

0:30:53 > 0:30:59He didn't, he didn't have the time, or the capacity to do that.

0:31:01 > 0:31:03And he just mostly was absent.

0:31:05 > 0:31:07Part of him wanted to be a parent,

0:31:07 > 0:31:10part of him wanted to be a partner and married,

0:31:10 > 0:31:12but most of him didn't want to be.

0:31:12 > 0:31:15He wanted to be out carousing with his buddies

0:31:15 > 0:31:17drinking tequila every night.

0:31:17 > 0:31:20He didn't want to be in a relationship.

0:31:22 > 0:31:25There's the 1941 thing, almost mirrored his own life.

0:31:25 > 0:31:27And it's...

0:31:27 > 0:31:32I'm pretty sure that's not how he intended it to be, but it did.

0:31:32 > 0:31:35You know, "In 1941, a happy father had a son,

0:31:35 > 0:31:37in 1944, his father walked right out the door."

0:31:37 > 0:31:41That's almost exactly what happened, except in the '70s.

0:32:01 > 0:32:03He called me one morning and said,

0:32:03 > 0:32:05"I got to come and talk to you."

0:32:05 > 0:32:08So, he came over to my house in Laurel Canyon,

0:32:08 > 0:32:10and asked me if I'd like to produce him,

0:32:10 > 0:32:14and I said, "I would love to, under one condition,

0:32:14 > 0:32:17"that he had to trust me and let me call the shots,"

0:32:17 > 0:32:19which he agreed to.

0:32:19 > 0:32:22One more, put it away.

0:32:22 > 0:32:25- Put it away. - Let's nail this mother to the wall.

0:32:25 > 0:32:27Richard's a great producer, really talented guy.

0:32:27 > 0:32:31And again, a tough guy in his own way.

0:32:31 > 0:32:35But you needed a tough guy to deal with Harry.

0:32:35 > 0:32:39He could, Harry could run over people,

0:32:39 > 0:32:41and a lot of people he did run over.

0:32:41 > 0:32:44And so he needed a counterweight and Richard was that.

0:32:44 > 0:32:46Harry, don't smoke those.

0:32:46 > 0:32:48THEY LAUGH

0:32:48 > 0:32:50Oh, come on, Mom! I stayed home yesterday.

0:32:50 > 0:32:52When you walked into the studio,

0:32:52 > 0:32:55Richard was in charge and it was wonderful.

0:32:55 > 0:32:57There's like several good takes.

0:32:57 > 0:33:01And it's the kind of thing where, if there's a great second verse,

0:33:01 > 0:33:04it can be used as the first verse of, uh, you know?

0:33:04 > 0:33:06He had the brightness to handpick musicians

0:33:06 > 0:33:09and then allow them to feel at least they were free,

0:33:09 > 0:33:12but you were being

0:33:12 > 0:33:16wonderfully, gently manoeuvred by Richard, you see.

0:33:16 > 0:33:20And then there was Harry who also, you know, knew exactly what he wanted.

0:33:20 > 0:33:23I felt that Harry could be my Beatles,

0:33:23 > 0:33:27and he, in turn, I suppose felt that I could be his George Martin,

0:33:27 > 0:33:30which, I think we did a pretty good job of accomplishing

0:33:30 > 0:33:32on the Nilsson Schmilsson album.

0:33:32 > 0:33:34That was the goal,

0:33:34 > 0:33:38to make as close to a Beatles quality album as possible.

0:33:45 > 0:33:47# Brother bought a coconut

0:33:47 > 0:33:48# He bought it for a dime

0:33:48 > 0:33:50# His sister had another one

0:33:50 > 0:33:52# She paid it for the lime

0:33:52 > 0:33:54# She put the lime in the coconut

0:33:54 > 0:33:55# She drank 'em both up

0:33:55 > 0:33:58# She put the lime in the coconut... #

0:33:58 > 0:34:01He played it for me the first time on guitar

0:34:01 > 0:34:05and he, he just sang it, it was like straight through,

0:34:05 > 0:34:07no changes at all.

0:34:07 > 0:34:09# Put the lime in the coconut

0:34:09 > 0:34:10# You drink 'em both up

0:34:10 > 0:34:12# Put the lime in the coconut

0:34:12 > 0:34:14# You drink 'em both up

0:34:14 > 0:34:16# Put a lime in the coconut

0:34:16 > 0:34:18# And drink 'em both together

0:34:18 > 0:34:20# Put the lime in the coconut

0:34:20 > 0:34:21# Then you feel better. #

0:34:21 > 0:34:23I thought to myself,

0:34:23 > 0:34:28"This song really has the potential to be like a little animated cartoon

0:34:28 > 0:34:32"There's like at least three different characters in the song I can think of."

0:34:32 > 0:34:36I said, "Why don't you use different voices? Think of the doctor like this,

0:34:36 > 0:34:39"'Now let me get this straight, you put the lime in the coconut.'"

0:34:39 > 0:34:42# Now let me get this straight

0:34:42 > 0:34:44# Put the lime in the coconut

0:34:44 > 0:34:45# You drank 'em both up. #

0:34:45 > 0:34:47He responded to it immediately

0:34:47 > 0:34:52and then you get this marvellous theatrical performance

0:34:52 > 0:34:54that has made that song a classic.

0:34:57 > 0:35:00# Ain't there nothing I can take

0:35:00 > 0:35:02# To relieve this belly ache?

0:35:02 > 0:35:05# I said, doctor! Ain't there nothing I can take?

0:35:05 > 0:35:06# I said, doctor!

0:35:06 > 0:35:09# Ain't there nothing I can take? I said, doctor! #

0:35:09 > 0:35:13About halfway through the album we had a difference of opinion

0:35:13 > 0:35:16that didn't, sort of, settle itself easily.

0:35:16 > 0:35:19So, like two proper gentlemen,

0:35:19 > 0:35:24we decided to have a meeting over high tea at the Dorchester Hotel

0:35:24 > 0:35:27to discuss what we were going to do.

0:35:27 > 0:35:30I said, "Harry, you do remember that when you came to me

0:35:30 > 0:35:33"and asked me to produce you, I asked you

0:35:33 > 0:35:40"my only condition was that I would have control, creative control."

0:35:40 > 0:35:43He looks me dead in the face and said,

0:35:43 > 0:35:46"Well, I lied."

0:35:49 > 0:35:51And then, with that, we both looked at our watch

0:35:51 > 0:35:54and realised that we were late for the session

0:35:54 > 0:35:57that he was supposed to do his vocal on Without You.

0:35:57 > 0:36:03Without another word, we jumped into a taxi, ran down to the studio,

0:36:03 > 0:36:06he went right out and sang the vocal that you hear on the record.

0:36:08 > 0:36:13# I can't live

0:36:13 > 0:36:16# If living is without you

0:36:16 > 0:36:18# I can't live... #

0:36:18 > 0:36:22We weren't thinking, "Grammy, here we come." But we thought it'd be nice.

0:36:22 > 0:36:25And while we were in Japan the nominations had come out

0:36:25 > 0:36:29and Album of the Year, Record of the Year,

0:36:29 > 0:36:32Best Male Vocal Performance, Best Engineered Record.

0:36:32 > 0:36:35I mean, whatever category it could have been nominated, it was nominated.

0:36:44 > 0:36:46He was thrilled.

0:36:46 > 0:36:50All of his dreams had come true.

0:36:50 > 0:36:53You know, he wanted to have a huge success.

0:36:53 > 0:36:54He had it.

0:36:54 > 0:36:58After the Nilsson Schmilsson album I think he was, arguably,

0:36:58 > 0:37:01the finest white male singer on the planet.

0:37:01 > 0:37:03Nilsson Schmilsson is a masterpiece,

0:37:03 > 0:37:06and he was pretty crazy,

0:37:06 > 0:37:12but Richard had some control over the situation and that album came out beautifully.

0:37:12 > 0:37:17It was really post Nilsson Schmilsson

0:37:17 > 0:37:19that the troubles set in,

0:37:19 > 0:37:21he didn't want Richard Perry in there.

0:37:21 > 0:37:25He didn't want anybody telling him what to do.

0:37:25 > 0:37:27He was going through a bad period in life,

0:37:27 > 0:37:34and rather than using that to, you know, in a way inspire him,

0:37:34 > 0:37:36or try to be creative with your pain,

0:37:36 > 0:37:44he just let it start the downward spiral that ultimately destroyed him.

0:37:44 > 0:37:46# Down to the bottom

0:37:46 > 0:37:48# To the bottom of a hole

0:37:48 > 0:37:53# I'm goin' down

0:37:53 > 0:37:54# Goin' down. #

0:37:54 > 0:37:57I don't think Harry handled success well.

0:37:57 > 0:38:03I think that the more successful he became, the more he drank.

0:38:03 > 0:38:08He didn't really feel that he deserved the applaud

0:38:08 > 0:38:10and the accreditation he was getting

0:38:10 > 0:38:12and became an alcoholic really,

0:38:12 > 0:38:16just as a sort of a retreat, as a sort of hideaway from that.

0:38:16 > 0:38:21It was frustrating because I... I didn't have enough of a power

0:38:21 > 0:38:23in the relationship to say, "Stop!"

0:38:25 > 0:38:27You know, but I wish I had.

0:38:29 > 0:38:32I don't think Harry expected to live very long.

0:38:32 > 0:38:36Both his parents died in their 50s.

0:38:36 > 0:38:41So, you know, that somehow becomes a factor in how people look at life.

0:38:41 > 0:38:45It was one of those things where he just went like 500mph

0:38:45 > 0:38:48until he stopped, you know?

0:38:48 > 0:38:53Whereas, most people just cruise and speed up and slow down and speed up...

0:38:53 > 0:38:56and then you kind of peter off, and eventually you park.

0:38:56 > 0:38:59But he was just like... Boom!

0:38:59 > 0:39:01# I'm goin' down... #

0:39:14 > 0:39:16We were best pals.

0:39:16 > 0:39:19You know, we hung out together all the time. We travelled together.

0:39:19 > 0:39:23We had a blast. We partied together.

0:39:23 > 0:39:27I mean, there wasn't anything we didn't do together.

0:39:27 > 0:39:29And worked together.

0:39:29 > 0:39:32And I was looking at a lifetime of hits.

0:39:35 > 0:39:40You know, I mean, you know, with the different things that he could do with his voice.

0:39:40 > 0:39:44I mean, just when you... I mean there was no limitation

0:39:44 > 0:39:46as to what, you know, we were capable of.

0:39:46 > 0:39:49I mean, Nilsson Schmilsson was like, the warm up.

0:39:49 > 0:39:51But the second one was Son of Schmilsson,

0:39:51 > 0:39:55and I think the cracks had already started to appear by that time.

0:39:55 > 0:40:00He had just separated and was going through a divorce from his first wife, Diane.

0:40:00 > 0:40:01And it hit him really hard.

0:40:03 > 0:40:06He nurtured it like a serpent to his breast.

0:40:06 > 0:40:08He hated it.

0:40:08 > 0:40:13I'm sure he took it as... if he was a good Catholic boy which I think he essentially was,

0:40:13 > 0:40:17he, um...

0:40:17 > 0:40:20took it as a failure,

0:40:20 > 0:40:24that he ended, uh, in a divorce.

0:40:24 > 0:40:28And it shows in his material, the songs that he would sing.

0:40:30 > 0:40:33# You're breakin' my heart You're tearin' it apart

0:40:33 > 0:40:35# So fuck you... #

0:40:37 > 0:40:42Having a hit single was and still is the greatest promotional vehicle to selling an album.

0:40:42 > 0:40:46And when you're more than capable of churning out material

0:40:46 > 0:40:50that had vast commercial potential, and at the same time was loaded

0:40:50 > 0:40:54with artistic integrity, what does he come up with as the strongest single possibility?

0:40:54 > 0:40:57"You're breaking my heart, you're tearing it apart."

0:40:57 > 0:40:59I won't give you the punch line. You know the song.

0:40:59 > 0:41:02# But fuck you

0:41:05 > 0:41:07# You're breakin' my heart

0:41:07 > 0:41:11- # You're tearin' it apart Ooh ooh.- #

0:41:11 > 0:41:15Everybody knows the word. It's hypocrisy at its greatest.

0:41:15 > 0:41:19Uh, and it's such a great way to send it up, you know?

0:41:19 > 0:41:22- You're breaking my heart, so- BLEEP- you, you know.

0:41:22 > 0:41:26And what do you say? "You're breaking my heart, darn it?"

0:41:26 > 0:41:29That's what he offered as the best, you know, I mean,

0:41:29 > 0:41:33that was his love song to his ex-wife.

0:41:33 > 0:41:36# There's no-one to blame So fuck you! #

0:41:42 > 0:41:48He would show up to the studio with a half bottle of cognac.

0:41:48 > 0:41:53The first half had already been consumed that afternoon.

0:41:53 > 0:41:56He would no longer allow my input into the songs.

0:41:56 > 0:41:59I mean, he would just like come up with a song,

0:41:59 > 0:42:01and I'd say, "Well, can we talk about this?"

0:42:01 > 0:42:06"No. That's the song. That's the vocal."

0:42:06 > 0:42:12And that's why you've got an album that still has

0:42:12 > 0:42:17some lovely moments in it, but I mean, there's no real

0:42:17 > 0:42:22depth or stature to it anywhere near what the Schmilsson album was.

0:42:22 > 0:42:25and I was expecting it to be the next level.

0:42:25 > 0:42:29And so, you know, what's missing here?

0:42:29 > 0:42:35You know, why is this such a sad ending to what could be a tremendous story?

0:42:35 > 0:42:40And it's because, in my way of interpreting it,

0:42:40 > 0:42:45Harry, at that point in life, developed a death wish.

0:42:47 > 0:42:50And, um...he was successful.

0:42:50 > 0:42:55It took him 20 years, but he carried it out.

0:42:59 > 0:43:02I was associated then with drinking and carousing.

0:43:02 > 0:43:06Because Keith Moon's a friend and Ringo's a friend and we have good times.

0:43:06 > 0:43:09People assume you're raising hell if you're having a good time,

0:43:09 > 0:43:12but I promise you we don't raise hell, but we do have a good time.

0:43:12 > 0:43:15Harry didn't stop at alcohol, you know.

0:43:15 > 0:43:19There were dealers all over the city heading for Harry, I think,

0:43:19 > 0:43:23helping him to spend his advances.

0:43:23 > 0:43:26And, you know, Harry was like, he was going the full bore,

0:43:26 > 0:43:28the full like rock n' roll life.

0:43:28 > 0:43:31# You can shake me up

0:43:31 > 0:43:34# Or I can bring you down

0:43:34 > 0:43:38# Whoa

0:43:38 > 0:43:41# Whoa

0:43:41 > 0:43:44# We can make each other happy

0:43:44 > 0:43:49# Oh, we can make each other happy

0:43:49 > 0:43:52# We can make each other happy

0:43:52 > 0:43:57# We can make each other happy Whoa

0:43:57 > 0:44:01Harry would come around and trouble would follow very shortly.

0:44:01 > 0:44:05Oh, dear, um, well,

0:44:05 > 0:44:07I got that call many times.

0:44:07 > 0:44:09I got the call, "What are you doing?"

0:44:09 > 0:44:11That was... the call was a very bad thing.

0:44:11 > 0:44:14I always knew that when Harry called I had to like,

0:44:14 > 0:44:18OK, what am I doing? OK, I'm ready to take the Harry trip,

0:44:18 > 0:44:20you know, get on the Harry ride, you know,

0:44:20 > 0:44:24because it's like a ride where you had no idea where it's gonna go.

0:44:24 > 0:44:26It's not on tracks.

0:44:26 > 0:44:27Some of those Harry tales

0:44:27 > 0:44:31I'll have to be like shock therapy to remember them, you know.

0:44:31 > 0:44:33"Oh, remember that?"

0:44:33 > 0:44:34"Oh! Woo!"

0:44:34 > 0:44:38No, I mean, they're probably out there.

0:44:38 > 0:44:42They're probably lodged somewhere in the cortex, but it'll take...

0:44:42 > 0:44:45Probably years from now I'll go, "Did I really?"

0:44:45 > 0:44:47Yeah. "A weed whacker?"

0:44:50 > 0:44:54- # Oh, Lord!- What is it? - I'm full of it!- Good

0:44:54 > 0:44:56- # Tonight- Right

0:44:56 > 0:44:59# We'll I've had my share of bad times

0:44:59 > 0:45:01# I've been shooting 'em up Drinking 'em down

0:45:01 > 0:45:04# Takin' them pills Fooling around

0:45:04 > 0:45:07# All my life... #

0:45:07 > 0:45:10John was one of a kind. I mean, there was just no-one like him.

0:45:10 > 0:45:12He was tough as nails.

0:45:12 > 0:45:14He was just fearless and just said what he felt.

0:45:14 > 0:45:18He was always ahead, he was always a couple of steps ahead of you.

0:45:18 > 0:45:21I was just hanging around with Harry Nilsson and people in LA,

0:45:21 > 0:45:24and getting into trouble and every time we go out I end up in the paper.

0:45:24 > 0:45:28I don't know when that happened. It just sort of happened that

0:45:28 > 0:45:31"Raising Hell With Harry" became the catchphrase of the month.

0:45:31 > 0:45:33If he wants to go out to have a drink, it's party time.

0:45:33 > 0:45:35He'll start it.

0:45:35 > 0:45:39You'll get in trouble and he'll walk away scott free, but he started it.

0:45:39 > 0:45:43We're making our big comeback and at the Troubadour

0:45:43 > 0:45:46here in Hollywood and - major opening, I mean,

0:45:46 > 0:45:50the stars were out to see the Smothers Brothers.

0:45:50 > 0:45:52And I was counting on this as a big comeback

0:45:52 > 0:45:55the Troubadour, all the people were invited,

0:45:55 > 0:45:57the Smothers Brothers had been assassinated from television,

0:45:57 > 0:46:01and here they are, they applauded like crazy, we walked on.

0:46:01 > 0:46:03And we start working and there's Harry.

0:46:03 > 0:46:06Harry comes in with John Lennon.

0:46:06 > 0:46:08And he told John Lennon, he said,

0:46:08 > 0:46:13"You know, Tommy's not very good, you know, heckling helps him."

0:46:13 > 0:46:18So these guys came in coked up and really cognac-ing.

0:46:18 > 0:46:21Every single moment there was a silence,

0:46:21 > 0:46:23there would be the most disgusting,

0:46:23 > 0:46:25I mean really the worst heckling in the world.

0:46:25 > 0:46:30The Smothers Brothers were, of course, astounded and blindsided and all of that.

0:46:30 > 0:46:34And Harry and John were going to help the show along,

0:46:34 > 0:46:36and become part of the show.

0:46:36 > 0:46:41That's what their idea was, four or five sheets to the wind.

0:46:41 > 0:46:43- JOHN LENNON:- I got drunk and shouted, you know.

0:46:43 > 0:46:46It was the first night I had drank Brandy Alexanders,

0:46:46 > 0:46:47which is brandy and milk, folks.

0:46:47 > 0:46:51I was with Harry Nilsson who didn't quite get as much coverage as me,

0:46:51 > 0:46:55the bum. And he really encouraged me.

0:46:55 > 0:46:58I usually have somebody there who says, "OK Lennon shut-up."

0:46:58 > 0:47:01And I take it. But I didn't have anyone around me to say shut-up

0:47:01 > 0:47:05- and I just went on and on. - Harry's going, "Let's say it some more."

0:47:05 > 0:47:07I turned and looked at Harry and said, "Please stop."

0:47:07 > 0:47:10"No, no the audience loves it." I said, "No they don't."

0:47:10 > 0:47:13I was really pissed at them, totally pissed at them.

0:47:13 > 0:47:16Well, Dick and I have a very tight act with great spaces in

0:47:16 > 0:47:18for timing, and every one of them was wrecked.

0:47:18 > 0:47:20The next thing you know, the manager came over

0:47:20 > 0:47:23and grabbed John by the collar.

0:47:23 > 0:47:26All of a sudden, John went back to his little Teddy Boy days

0:47:26 > 0:47:30and says, "Wait a minute you don't pull me." And the next thing the table went flying.

0:47:30 > 0:47:35Fists were flying and people were stumbling around, and people were, "Shut up!"

0:47:35 > 0:47:38- and "Fuck you," and this constant thing.- They got thrown out.

0:47:38 > 0:47:42Finally, they were thrown out and it was just a disaster.

0:47:42 > 0:47:45When it's Errol Flynn, you know, all them showbiz writers say,

0:47:45 > 0:47:47"Those were the days when we had Sinatra

0:47:47 > 0:47:51"and Errol Flynn socking it to the people," you know, the real men.

0:47:51 > 0:47:56I do it and I'm a bum. So it was a mistake, but hell, you know, I'm human, you know.

0:47:56 > 0:47:57'Hi ya, pussycat.

0:47:57 > 0:48:01'You say you opened up a bicycle wash and the first six customers drowned.

0:48:01 > 0:48:05'And they pick you up in the Wax Museum for trying to score

0:48:05 > 0:48:06'with Marie Antoinette.

0:48:06 > 0:48:08'Is that what's got you down, pussycat?

0:48:08 > 0:48:09'Well, rise up!

0:48:09 > 0:48:12'Get yourself Harry Nilsson's new album, Pussycats,

0:48:12 > 0:48:14'produced by John Lennon.

0:48:14 > 0:48:18'Nilsson's latest! Pussycats! On RCA records and tapes.

0:48:18 > 0:48:20'Meow and purr.'

0:48:20 > 0:48:23Some tracks are beautiful, some tracks are a bit weird,

0:48:23 > 0:48:28but Harry Nilsson and John Lennon together is a pretty weird combination.

0:48:28 > 0:48:32To have John was like giving Harry the best present he could have.

0:48:32 > 0:48:38That almost made up for the fact that his father left him.

0:48:38 > 0:48:41And, you know, there may be some of you out there, saying,

0:48:41 > 0:48:44"Yeah, Webb's being the amateur psychiatrist now.

0:48:44 > 0:48:47"But I think that that almost made up for it,

0:48:47 > 0:48:51because Harry really wanted to be one of the Beatles.

0:48:51 > 0:48:54Well, the relationship with John was...

0:48:54 > 0:48:56like, if you see the album, Pussycats,

0:48:56 > 0:49:00have you ever seen the cover? You know, they were like in each other's face.

0:49:00 > 0:49:03This was like, it was like a duel.

0:49:03 > 0:49:07They were a friendship made in hell, as far as I'm concerned.

0:49:07 > 0:49:12John had his troubles. Harry had his troubles.

0:49:12 > 0:49:16And they got together and really, that was,

0:49:16 > 0:49:20that was when Harry totally blew his voice.

0:49:20 > 0:49:27# Many rivers to cross

0:49:27 > 0:49:33# But I just can't seem to find

0:49:33 > 0:49:40# My way over. #

0:49:40 > 0:49:43He and John Lennon were egging each other on

0:49:43 > 0:49:47as to who could scream the loudest

0:49:47 > 0:49:51and scream the longest and put the most ragged,

0:49:51 > 0:49:57actually self-destructive vocals on tape, as possible.

0:49:57 > 0:50:00It was kind of this one-upmanship, friendly kind of thing,

0:50:00 > 0:50:03but like... # I can do anything you can do No you can't

0:50:03 > 0:50:06# Yes, I can. No you can't. Aaaaah! #

0:50:07 > 0:50:10I believe it was purposeful.

0:50:10 > 0:50:12Not consciously,

0:50:12 > 0:50:15but I believe that he was...

0:50:15 > 0:50:17He was...

0:50:17 > 0:50:20I can't believe that I'm getting into all this, first of all.

0:50:20 > 0:50:27I really, I think he was, for some very bizarre reason, trying to self-destruct.

0:50:31 > 0:50:39# Well I guess I'll have to try... #

0:50:39 > 0:50:45He told me, one time, that there was blood on the microphone.

0:50:45 > 0:50:50Harry told me. He said, "There was blood on the microphone."

0:50:50 > 0:50:53I drove him to the hospital and he had the throat thing,

0:50:53 > 0:50:56and the polyps and all that stuff.

0:50:56 > 0:50:58And he called me up and he says, "Get me out of here.

0:50:58 > 0:51:03"Bring me a bottle of brandy and a pack of cigarettes into the hospital."

0:51:03 > 0:51:06"And I said, "Not the cigarettes.

0:51:08 > 0:51:11"But I brought a bottle of brandy and he walked out in the green robe.

0:51:11 > 0:51:14He just couldn't be bothered, you know.

0:51:14 > 0:51:19I never sensed any kind of, "It's not really happening," denial.

0:51:19 > 0:51:22It was just, "Oh, fuck it, give me a cigarette."

0:51:22 > 0:51:26That was his kind of attitude about everything.

0:51:35 > 0:51:40That was the saddest thing that ever happened to me in my life,

0:51:40 > 0:51:43was when I realised that he...

0:51:43 > 0:51:49that he was in that much trouble vocally,

0:51:49 > 0:51:53and that he didn't know how to tell me,

0:51:53 > 0:51:55and that he didn't want anyone to know.

0:51:58 > 0:52:00And it's just hard for me to talk about it.

0:52:00 > 0:52:02I just can't talk about it.

0:52:15 > 0:52:17# Hey, baby

0:52:17 > 0:52:21# Do you come here often?

0:52:23 > 0:52:26# What's your sign? #

0:52:28 > 0:52:31A girlfriend and I were working for the summer.

0:52:31 > 0:52:34We were students at Rumpelmayer's Ice Cream Parlour.

0:52:34 > 0:52:39And one evening, it was rather a quiet evening and both of us

0:52:39 > 0:52:42were sort of leaning up against the wall, and in walked Harry.

0:52:42 > 0:52:47Sunday night, half drunk, flask of brandy in one pocket,

0:52:47 > 0:52:50a copy of US News in the other.

0:52:50 > 0:52:54And as I walked to my hotel I noticed Rumpelmayer's ice cream parlour.

0:52:54 > 0:52:59And there was Una.

0:52:59 > 0:53:01Basically the first thing Harry ever said to me was,

0:53:01 > 0:53:03"You've the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen.

0:53:03 > 0:53:06"Will you marry me?"

0:53:06 > 0:53:10Obviously, no-one had ever said anything like that to me before, but it was very special.

0:53:10 > 0:53:12And, uh, he said, "No, no really," he said,

0:53:12 > 0:53:15"What can I do to prove my intent?"

0:53:16 > 0:53:20And we said, "Well, we like flowers and we like melons."

0:53:20 > 0:53:22Now you might think that's a very odd thing to say,

0:53:22 > 0:53:24but perhaps I'd never really...

0:53:24 > 0:53:27Well, I'd never eaten a honeydew melon.

0:53:27 > 0:53:32Right. Went to my hotel. I showered, sobered, changed.

0:53:32 > 0:53:36The melons were easy, Smiler's Delicatessen.

0:53:36 > 0:53:39But the flowers, that's another question.

0:53:39 > 0:53:4511pm on a Sunday night, August 12th, 1973. Flowers at 11pm?

0:53:45 > 0:53:49Hey, what about the docks? Right!

0:53:49 > 0:53:52So we actually found a florist

0:53:52 > 0:53:55and he was preparing for a funeral the next morning.

0:53:55 > 0:53:59At the end of the evening, when my friend and I were leaving, the manager came over

0:53:59 > 0:54:04and he said, "There's a man waiting for, for you outside the kitchen."

0:54:04 > 0:54:08And we were very excited and we went outside and there was Harry,

0:54:08 > 0:54:15leaning nonchalantly against a long limousine and on the pavement

0:54:15 > 0:54:24beside him he had baskets of um, uh, flowers and melons and soft toys.

0:54:24 > 0:54:25They were totally knocked out.

0:54:25 > 0:54:29They hugged me and they hugged me.

0:54:29 > 0:54:32It was the sweetest hug I'd ever had.

0:54:32 > 0:54:37# And I feel like it's going to get a whole lot better

0:54:37 > 0:54:42# Better than the night before the night I met her

0:54:42 > 0:54:45# Feel like it's going to get a whole lot better

0:54:45 > 0:54:50# Better than the night before the night I met her. #

0:55:02 > 0:55:05The day of the wedding it was like hell day hangover.

0:55:05 > 0:55:06The limo showed up.

0:55:06 > 0:55:08Ringo gave me a toot for luck,

0:55:08 > 0:55:12the limo driver gave me a gram for luck, and even the father,

0:55:12 > 0:55:15the priest, a priest of the church of God-knows-what,

0:55:15 > 0:55:17shared another gram.

0:55:17 > 0:55:20Now I was shaking so much I could barely stand.

0:55:20 > 0:55:24So I said, "To hell with it, you only marry thrice."

0:55:25 > 0:55:28The wedding ceremony.

0:55:28 > 0:55:30Phew!

0:55:30 > 0:55:35We were married in... It was really a suite at the Marriott Hotel.

0:55:35 > 0:55:37The wedding was organised very, very quickly.

0:55:37 > 0:55:43Van Dyke Parks brought a priest, somebody else brought flowers

0:55:43 > 0:55:46and somebody else hired an accordionist.

0:55:46 > 0:55:49Ringo Starr was our best man.

0:55:49 > 0:55:51And he was so funny.

0:55:51 > 0:55:55He went to Tiffany's and took a tray of rings

0:55:55 > 0:55:57because he didn't know our sizes

0:55:57 > 0:56:01and he sort of held this tray of rings out for us to choose.

0:56:01 > 0:56:04In two tries he found the right sizes.

0:56:04 > 0:56:07Then it was my turn to place the beautiful golden circles

0:56:07 > 0:56:09on the love of my life.

0:56:09 > 0:56:12Ringo said, "Oh, look, he's shaking."

0:56:12 > 0:56:16And he helped me steady my hands, with Una, and slip on the ring.

0:56:16 > 0:56:18It was perfect.

0:56:46 > 0:56:51In 1974 Harry renegotiated his record deal with RCA records

0:56:51 > 0:56:54and at that time got what I understand to be one of

0:56:54 > 0:56:58the biggest advances in the history of the record business.

0:56:58 > 0:57:00PS, he did it with the help of John Lennon.

0:57:00 > 0:57:07It was John and I with Harry, and we marched into the president

0:57:07 > 0:57:08of RCA at that time.

0:57:08 > 0:57:15And Harry says, "Do you know. look who's in your office?

0:57:15 > 0:57:20"It's John Lennon in this piece of shit record company's office.

0:57:20 > 0:57:21"John Lennon is here!"

0:57:21 > 0:57:25And, and John says, "Do you know who's stand...

0:57:25 > 0:57:29"This is Harry Nilsson, the greatest rock'n'roll singer!

0:57:29 > 0:57:30"And you're fucking him over!"

0:57:30 > 0:57:33There's John giving a speech saying,

0:57:33 > 0:57:37"You're going to lose one of the greatest voices of all time.

0:57:37 > 0:57:42You've got to re-sign this man. You got to give him a record deal.

0:57:42 > 0:57:44John was just going right for it. He didn't care.

0:57:44 > 0:57:46He believed in Harry that much.

0:57:46 > 0:57:49The contracts that had sat there unsigned by them,

0:57:49 > 0:57:55for over a year, he signed and sent them and Harry got his deal.

0:57:55 > 0:57:58One, two, three, four.

0:57:58 > 0:58:04Harry would go into a session with a sheet of paper and 15 musicians.

0:58:04 > 0:58:07And just one sheet of paper that he has.

0:58:07 > 0:58:10And we'd start. To us, I'm sure that he had it worked out in his brain,

0:58:10 > 0:58:13but when it got to us, it was ideas.

0:58:14 > 0:58:17One, two, three four.

0:58:17 > 0:58:21Chris, could I have some Scotch, some water, some matches,

0:58:21 > 0:58:23and some heroin, please?

0:58:23 > 0:58:28There would be a lot of people around and it would be full on drug culture.

0:58:28 > 0:58:30Harry, where's the shit, man?

0:58:30 > 0:58:33And there would be a sort of a half-hearted attempt at making

0:58:33 > 0:58:37a record going on, and a lot of confusion.

0:58:37 > 0:58:40The line between, you know,

0:58:40 > 0:58:44day and night and work and play.

0:58:44 > 0:58:48It just disappeared entirely.

0:58:48 > 0:58:51It, of course it was fun,

0:58:51 > 0:58:54we were all in the bag and laughing and carrying on,

0:58:54 > 0:58:57but it certainly was a silly way to make records.

0:58:57 > 0:59:02OK, all right.

0:59:02 > 0:59:04That's certainly worth risking. Let's go ahead.

0:59:04 > 0:59:06We just ran out of tape anyway. Beautiful.

0:59:06 > 0:59:08It was a very difficult time for him.

0:59:08 > 0:59:12RCA was unhappy, um, obviously.

0:59:12 > 0:59:13And he was unhappy.

0:59:13 > 0:59:15You know, he was blaming them,

0:59:15 > 0:59:17that they didn't know how to deal with his product.

0:59:17 > 0:59:20And they were blaming him about the albums they were making.

0:59:20 > 0:59:22And it got really uncomfortable

0:59:22 > 0:59:24and they offered him money to buy him out.

0:59:24 > 0:59:29I remember the day that Harry came over and said, yeah, he was laughing.

0:59:29 > 0:59:32He was saying, "RCA Victor just gave me three million dollars.

0:59:32 > 0:59:34"I'm going to retire. I'm buy an apartment building.

0:59:34 > 0:59:37"I'm doing this and I'm doing that."

0:59:37 > 0:59:41And he was bragging about it and pretending to be happy about it,

0:59:41 > 0:59:47but the truth was, he was distraught because they had paid him off.

0:59:47 > 0:59:49They had paid him off.

0:59:49 > 0:59:53They wanted to get out from under the deal.

0:59:53 > 0:59:55John Lennon was killed last night.

0:59:55 > 0:59:58The former Beatle, 40 years old, was shot to death

0:59:58 > 1:00:00as he and his wife, Yoko Ono,

1:00:00 > 1:00:03were walking through the great arched entry way to The Dakota,

1:00:03 > 1:00:06the landmark apartment building where they lived in New York.

1:00:13 > 1:00:17I was with Harry on the night that John was shot.

1:00:18 > 1:00:21And, he was in the studio.

1:00:21 > 1:00:25It was that Monday night, cos we were all watching the football game,

1:00:25 > 1:00:29and all of a sudden the flash came on the screen that said

1:00:29 > 1:00:31John Lennon had been shot.

1:00:31 > 1:00:35And we all freaked.

1:00:35 > 1:00:39And it was like, "What?!"

1:00:39 > 1:00:41You know, and everything just stopped for a minute

1:00:41 > 1:00:45and people just looked at each other and shook their heads.

1:00:46 > 1:00:50And I went in the bathroom and just put a wet towel on my face

1:00:50 > 1:00:53and just said, "Jesus Christ, not him."

1:00:53 > 1:00:56It devastated him,

1:00:56 > 1:01:00because I don't think that Harry felt that they'd had their last conversation.

1:01:00 > 1:01:05Well, it was so severe that we didn't talk about it,

1:01:05 > 1:01:07between us.

1:01:09 > 1:01:11# Cos nothing lasts forever

1:01:12 > 1:01:21# But I will always love you. #

1:01:33 > 1:01:37You know the old cliche, and most cliches are true.

1:01:37 > 1:01:38Behind every great man is a great woman.

1:01:38 > 1:01:43He was totally in love with Una, and it was very touching,

1:01:43 > 1:01:45extremely touching.

1:01:45 > 1:01:47I know he was married twice before and I don't,

1:01:47 > 1:01:51I don't even know their names. I know nothing about that.

1:01:51 > 1:01:53It seemed like when he found her that was it.

1:01:53 > 1:02:00# Lean on me, lean on me

1:02:00 > 1:02:05# You're the wind and I'm the sea

1:02:05 > 1:02:08# Oh, lean on me... #

1:02:08 > 1:02:12I found, uh, some sort of poem he wrote her, in which he said,

1:02:12 > 1:02:17there have been, of all the great loves that have existed in history,

1:02:17 > 1:02:20and he listed off a bunch of couples, maybe, um,

1:02:20 > 1:02:25Romeo and Juliet and he said, Yoko and John, Harry and Una.

1:02:25 > 1:02:29And Una had such a calm aura about her, she just...

1:02:29 > 1:02:34Whatever he was doing crashing, bang or anything, she just was there.

1:02:34 > 1:02:38It's nice when somebody finds the ballast in their life and I think Harry found it with Una.

1:02:38 > 1:02:41She was the anchor, yeah. Good ole Mom.

1:02:41 > 1:02:46And the other weird part about Harry, as outrageous as he was, he loved his children.

1:02:46 > 1:02:48You know, and all these kids.

1:02:48 > 1:02:51And he was very much about that.

1:02:51 > 1:02:55When any of the children would walk into the room, he was just, he would light up.

1:02:55 > 1:02:59They were climbing all over him. They were on his back, they were on his head...

1:02:59 > 1:03:03They were, uh...adored, cherished,

1:03:03 > 1:03:08treasured, pampered, uh...

1:03:08 > 1:03:13Given every luxury imaginable

1:03:13 > 1:03:16and every latitude, in terms of their behaviour.

1:03:16 > 1:03:22I mean, he was absolutely one of the most doting, loving dads I've ever seen.

1:03:22 > 1:03:28He was really hands-on, being careful, being caring and,

1:03:28 > 1:03:32um, always talking about Una and his children.

1:03:32 > 1:03:36# There's nothing left to say

1:03:36 > 1:03:41# I'll pack up my memories Then I'll walk away... #

1:03:41 > 1:03:45A lot of things went domino at the end there. A very bad, uh...

1:03:45 > 1:03:51series of circumstances, including the threat of bankruptcy

1:03:51 > 1:03:57and lawsuits that might come from it. Once again, back where he began.

1:03:57 > 1:04:01In the early '90s, his business manager, who was his accountant,

1:04:01 > 1:04:03who he had trusted implicitly,

1:04:03 > 1:04:05and who had control over all of his money,

1:04:05 > 1:04:09embezzled virtually all of his money.

1:04:09 > 1:04:13His financial world, which he was so proud of, for his children

1:04:13 > 1:04:15and for his family, all fell apart.

1:04:15 > 1:04:18And, um, that was a cruel trick.

1:04:18 > 1:04:21And, um, and that's what broke my heart for him, you know.

1:04:21 > 1:04:24That shouldn't have happened, shouldn't have happened to anybody,

1:04:24 > 1:04:26shouldn't have happened to him.

1:04:26 > 1:04:29He got very caught up in trying to sell the house, trying to get money.

1:04:29 > 1:04:31He was selling off his library of music.

1:04:31 > 1:04:35It was a point that really made me sad, because he had all these CDs

1:04:35 > 1:04:37that he was going around to ad agencies

1:04:37 > 1:04:41trying to sell his songs for commercials to get some money.

1:04:41 > 1:04:43It was, um...

1:04:43 > 1:04:45an incredible blow to him.

1:04:45 > 1:04:47And I don't think he ever recovered.

1:04:47 > 1:04:51A man wants to be a success, he wants to be a good provider

1:04:51 > 1:04:56and the things that he had worked for, uh, were gone.

1:04:56 > 1:04:58So it was really, really hard.

1:05:10 > 1:05:13The last thing he recorded that was ever released was, uh...

1:05:13 > 1:05:18I Love New York in June, How About You? for Fisher King.

1:05:18 > 1:05:26# I like New York in June How about you...? #

1:05:26 > 1:05:30It was back in 1991, I had gotten a call from Harry

1:05:30 > 1:05:34saying he was going to London to do The Fisher King.

1:05:34 > 1:05:37And, uh, I asked him if I could go along with him.

1:05:37 > 1:05:40I don't think he was expecting that, but, uh, he said, "Yes."

1:05:40 > 1:05:42His voice had gone by then, I mean,

1:05:42 > 1:05:46but it was still quite wonderful cos he could always work it.

1:05:46 > 1:05:48It was his great instrument.

1:05:48 > 1:05:52And, uh, even his whistle was gone by then, but he still whistled in the thing.

1:05:52 > 1:05:54HE WHISTLES SONG

1:06:03 > 1:06:06That turned out to be not only the first, but the last time

1:06:06 > 1:06:10that we'd spend a significant amount of time together, just the two of us.

1:06:10 > 1:06:12I remember on the last night before I had to leave

1:06:12 > 1:06:16we agreed to stay up all night, in the hotel room, talking about whatever, and we did.

1:06:16 > 1:06:20Around 4am he got too tired and he had to go to sleep,

1:06:20 > 1:06:23so I left after that, but that's a good memory for me.

1:06:23 > 1:06:31# I like it, how about you?

1:06:48 > 1:06:52# Try, try, try...

1:06:52 > 1:06:57# You're a winner if you Try, try, try...

1:06:57 > 1:06:59# Give it all you have... #

1:06:59 > 1:07:03I never saw a nobler human being than Harry Nilsson

1:07:03 > 1:07:06in the final couple of years of his life.

1:07:06 > 1:07:12He was as happy and as brave and as confident

1:07:12 > 1:07:13as any man I've ever seen.

1:07:13 > 1:07:17As ill as he was, he pulled his family out of bankruptcy.

1:07:17 > 1:07:19He pulled himself together.

1:07:19 > 1:07:26He faced what he was facing with as much good humour as you could possibly imagine.

1:07:26 > 1:07:30This was 1993, when my dad had a heart attack.

1:07:30 > 1:07:35He'd felt these chest pains, tried to ignore it like it was nothing.

1:07:35 > 1:07:38Then he goes to the doctor and the doctor says, "You've had this major heart attack.

1:07:38 > 1:07:40"What are you doing not calling an ambulance?"

1:07:40 > 1:07:44After that first heart attack I called him and he said,

1:07:44 > 1:07:46"I've had hangovers that were worse."

1:07:46 > 1:07:48And it was a massive heart attack.

1:07:48 > 1:07:51He'd use a lot of it as a lesson.

1:07:51 > 1:07:54"Look, kids, this is what happens if you're a rock'n'roller all your life.

1:07:54 > 1:07:58And he blamed a lot of the health, he would express it to me, anyway,

1:07:58 > 1:08:04that, that fast living is not the key to longevity

1:08:04 > 1:08:08He just sort of told me, that's the odd thing about it.

1:08:08 > 1:08:11And he just said, "Doug, you know, they told me I got a year."

1:08:11 > 1:08:13And I went, "What?!"

1:08:13 > 1:08:15He said, "Yeah." Just like that.

1:08:15 > 1:08:19And that was that side of him I was talking about before.

1:08:19 > 1:08:22That what was painful, he wasn't going to let it out that way.

1:08:22 > 1:08:25I knew he was in bad shape.

1:08:25 > 1:08:27I knew he was trying to get better.

1:08:27 > 1:08:30I knew that he had to be connected to machines every now and then, you know?

1:08:30 > 1:08:33An oxygen tank. I knew it wasn't good.

1:08:33 > 1:08:37You know, his hair was getting grey and it was just this awful image.

1:08:37 > 1:08:43And so I think I really hid from him for the last few months.

1:08:43 > 1:08:47So I don't have strong memories of it.

1:08:47 > 1:08:49Except just, like...

1:08:49 > 1:08:55Just fear, and watching him sort of deteriorate, which I couldn't handle, you know?

1:08:55 > 1:09:00After a while, they communicated to him that it doesn't look good.

1:09:00 > 1:09:05So, my dad was able to use that opportunity to tell all of us anything that was on his mind.

1:09:05 > 1:09:09And we were able to tell my dad anything that was on our minds,

1:09:09 > 1:09:11on the days leading up towards the end.

1:09:11 > 1:09:13# Take a look around

1:09:13 > 1:09:16# See what you have found

1:09:16 > 1:09:20# It's so easy If you try, try, try... #

1:09:21 > 1:09:25The last night of Harry's life, we'd had a very busy day

1:09:25 > 1:09:29and we went to bed and we were watching a movie, Enchanted April.

1:09:29 > 1:09:32I wasn't able to stay awake to the end of the movie and I said,

1:09:32 > 1:09:36"Oh, I'm sorry, Harry, I'm going to fall asleep."

1:09:36 > 1:09:42And he said, "I want you to know I love you sooooo much."

1:09:42 > 1:09:45Making the "so" as long as he could.

1:09:47 > 1:09:50And that's the last thing he ever said to me.

1:09:59 > 1:10:16# It's the perfect way

1:10:16 > 1:10:30# To end a perfect day... #

1:10:30 > 1:10:32I just remember thinking, "Earthquake?!"

1:10:32 > 1:10:34Like, what's going on?

1:10:34 > 1:10:35You know?

1:10:35 > 1:10:38Who designed this series of events?

1:10:38 > 1:10:42I was at a friend's house in Topanga Canyon and it threw me half the way across the room.

1:10:42 > 1:10:45And it was like Harry saying, "Hey!"

1:10:45 > 1:10:47HE LAUGHS

1:10:47 > 1:10:49"I'm not going out like that."

1:10:49 > 1:10:53Throughout the day, including the service, there were aftershocks.

1:10:53 > 1:10:55And quite severe aftershocks.

1:10:55 > 1:10:58So, we're sitting there, and I thought, "Oh, that's really kind of fitting."

1:10:58 > 1:11:02Cos here's Harry, you know, even now he's gone, still shaking stuff up.

1:11:02 > 1:11:04Because we're just sitting there...

1:11:04 > 1:11:06and the casket would shake.

1:11:06 > 1:11:08You know, really surreal.

1:11:08 > 1:11:12There was a huge shake during the funeral.

1:11:12 > 1:11:16And I said, "It's Harry, just got to heaven and found the bar's closed."

1:11:18 > 1:11:22When we went to the actual gravesite, we're all standing around.

1:11:22 > 1:11:26And George Harrison is there, looking quite sad.

1:11:26 > 1:11:28And he looks at me and goes,

1:11:28 > 1:11:30"You know my favourite Harry song?"

1:11:30 > 1:11:34And I went, "It's tough to pick." He goes, "Fuck You."

1:11:34 > 1:11:37And I went, "What?" Thinking that he was like...

1:11:37 > 1:11:39And he goes, "No, Fuck You." Come on, let's sing it for Harry.

1:11:39 > 1:11:42And around the grave, six of us went...

1:11:42 > 1:11:44# You're breaking my heart

1:11:44 > 1:11:45# You're tearing it apart

1:11:45 > 1:11:48# So fuck you! # Looking at the casket.

1:11:48 > 1:11:53And when we did that, it was such a bittersweet sorrow.

1:11:53 > 1:11:58But there was not a man or a woman around the casket

1:11:58 > 1:12:02that didn't have that smile on their face, that you said to me,

1:12:02 > 1:12:05"Whenever I say Harry Nilsson, people go,

1:12:05 > 1:12:07"'Phew, Harry.'"

1:12:07 > 1:12:09And that smile, at that time,

1:12:09 > 1:12:11was all around.

1:12:26 > 1:12:28# He's a pretty nifty guy

1:12:28 > 1:12:31# Always looks you in the eye

1:12:31 > 1:12:35# Everybody passing by will sigh for Harry

1:12:35 > 1:12:37Oh, Harry!

1:12:37 > 1:12:39# I've known him for a little while

1:12:39 > 1:12:42# He always has a friendly smile

1:12:42 > 1:12:46# He doesn't give a damn For what's in style, this Harry...

1:12:46 > 1:12:48WHISTLING

1:12:58 > 1:13:03# Ooh, about that man called Harry

1:13:03 > 1:13:05# Want to marry, with Harry

1:13:05 > 1:13:08# Harry, Harry, Harry Harry, Harry. #

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