0:00:03 > 0:00:10This programme contains some strong language.
0:00:14 > 0:00:16You want to do a soundcheck, yeah?
0:00:18 > 0:00:19Yeah.
0:00:20 > 0:00:23One, two. One, two. One, two.
0:00:23 > 0:00:25One two, one two, one two. Hello, hello, hello.
0:00:25 > 0:00:27- Hello, hello.- OK.
0:00:27 > 0:00:29Really good.
0:00:31 > 0:00:34So, before we start, I just want to ask you...
0:00:34 > 0:00:36how's your memory?
0:00:36 > 0:00:40It's pretty good in some places and completely non-existent on others.
0:00:40 > 0:00:42I can remember some things but not other things.
0:00:42 > 0:00:45But then it's written down, usually, somewhere.
0:00:45 > 0:00:50What do I tell you? I can't remember much of it, to be honest!
0:00:50 > 0:00:55Everybody has selective memories, you know, and in the end I just think, "Oh, what the hell!"
0:00:55 > 0:00:59You know, I say that old adage "never let the truth spoil a good story".
0:00:59 > 0:01:05With me, we'll cover a lot of ground and it will just be natural, you know, whatever happens.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07- Have you got a light?- Yeah, sure. - Oh, I've got one!
0:01:07 > 0:01:09LIGHTER CLICKS
0:01:09 > 0:01:12Well, I don't know whether it's going to be mystifying,
0:01:12 > 0:01:15and I suppose it's not going to be a glorification either.
0:01:15 > 0:01:18Above all, it should be entertaining, it should be fun,
0:01:18 > 0:01:20because that's what the band was.
0:01:20 > 0:01:23I'm amazed by it myself! I mean it is...
0:01:23 > 0:01:25HE LAUGHS RASPINGLY
0:01:25 > 0:01:28It's almost a fairy story, you know?
0:01:28 > 0:01:30MUSIC STARTS AND STOPS
0:01:30 > 0:01:31Take three.
0:01:33 > 0:01:37Last week, New York City finally got to see and hear the Rolling Stones. We were the last stop
0:01:37 > 0:01:40on a tour that took them into 30 cities in about six weeks.
0:01:40 > 0:01:42It's a gruelling trip.
0:01:42 > 0:01:45I went to Madison Square Gardens to meet Mick Jagger,
0:01:45 > 0:01:47the singer with the group - a fascinating man.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50And he's been described, variously,
0:01:50 > 0:01:53as the supreme sexual object in modern, western culture,
0:01:53 > 0:01:57a compound of menace and energy, a sadomasochistic freak,
0:01:57 > 0:01:59a pussy cat and various other things.
0:01:59 > 0:02:02We have for you tonight, an impression, I think a fairly accurate one,
0:02:02 > 0:02:07of what goes on outside, inside and backstage at Madison Square Gardens
0:02:07 > 0:02:10'when the Rolling Stones are in town.
0:02:10 > 0:02:14'As you look at this, it's, literally, only minutes until he goes outside on to a stage,
0:02:14 > 0:02:17'and exudes solid energy to 20,000 people.
0:02:17 > 0:02:20'Notice how calm we both are, even though he had 20,000 people waiting
0:02:20 > 0:02:24'and I had three listless staff members waiting for a cab for me.'
0:02:24 > 0:02:26Good morning.
0:02:26 > 0:02:31Can you, sort of, tell me my way around in here? I don't know who's who and what's what.
0:02:31 > 0:02:33- Doesn't all this up upset you, all these people...?- Yeah.
0:02:33 > 0:02:37- It's really crowded for a morning show.- Yeah.
0:02:37 > 0:02:41- How did you sleep after opening night last night?- Not very well.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44I don't know if I was supposed to see this, but there was a plate of something going round.
0:02:44 > 0:02:49- People offering little pills. - Vitamins and salt. - Vitamins and salt pills?- Yeah.
0:02:49 > 0:02:53- They tell me...- A, E, C and salt!
0:02:53 > 0:02:56- Yeah?- Drink the salt with plenty of water.- Yeah. Will that help?
0:02:56 > 0:03:01- Do you want to do it all now, Dick? - We could. Yeah, we can cut. - Because I've got to get ready.
0:03:01 > 0:03:06How much has your technique and your sense of timing developed over the last five or six years?
0:03:06 > 0:03:11You talk to me like an actor. I don't understand anything about all those things.
0:03:11 > 0:03:14I just go on and do it. I don't know about timing or anything.
0:03:14 > 0:03:17Cos you give me the impression, and I've watched you -
0:03:17 > 0:03:21whether it's conscious or not - of being a very, very shrewd professional performer.
0:03:21 > 0:03:24No... No, it's not true.
0:03:24 > 0:03:27PIANO PLAYS POIGNANTLY
0:03:39 > 0:03:43# It's funny, funny, funny, funny, funny...
0:03:50 > 0:03:52# It's funny, honey
0:03:55 > 0:03:56# It's funny
0:03:56 > 0:03:57# It's funny
0:03:58 > 0:03:59Funny.
0:04:03 > 0:04:06# Ain't it nice to go on a Sunday afternoon?
0:04:08 > 0:04:12# Watching all the children in their Sunday suits
0:04:14 > 0:04:19# Thinking 'bout the times I had when I was just a baby
0:04:21 > 0:04:25# Wondering if I would ever feel that kind of cold
0:04:25 > 0:04:28# You know it's funny... #
0:04:30 > 0:04:33PIANO PLAYING BECOMES DISCORDANT
0:04:38 > 0:04:40HEAVY FOOTSTEPS
0:04:42 > 0:04:45PHONES RING, WALKIE-TALKIES BLARE
0:04:45 > 0:04:48LOTS OF CHATTER AND NOISE
0:04:50 > 0:04:53..Oh, and a bottle of Scotch and another coke!
0:04:54 > 0:04:56- Water!- And water!
0:05:00 > 0:05:03CHEERING IN THE BACKGROUND
0:05:03 > 0:05:06CHEERING GETS EVER CLOSER
0:05:18 > 0:05:22CHEERING REACHES A CRESCENDO
0:05:22 > 0:05:24Ladies and gentlemen...
0:05:24 > 0:05:26the Rolling Stones!
0:05:26 > 0:05:29WILD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:05:42 > 0:05:45# Ye-ah-ah-ah, oh!
0:05:47 > 0:05:52MUSIC: "Street Fighting Man" by the Rolling Stones
0:06:00 > 0:06:02# Ev'rywhere
0:06:02 > 0:06:03# I hear the sound
0:06:03 > 0:06:07# Of marching, charging feet, boy
0:06:08 > 0:06:10# Cos summer's here
0:06:10 > 0:06:12# And the time is right
0:06:12 > 0:06:15# For fighting in the street, boy
0:06:16 > 0:06:19# Well, what can a poor boy do?
0:06:19 > 0:06:22# Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band
0:06:23 > 0:06:26# Cos in sleepy London town
0:06:26 > 0:06:27# There's just no place for
0:06:27 > 0:06:29# A street fighting man
0:06:33 > 0:06:34Whoo!
0:06:58 > 0:06:59# Hey!
0:06:59 > 0:07:03# Said my name is called disturbance
0:07:05 > 0:07:06# I'll shout and scream
0:07:06 > 0:07:07# I'll kill the king
0:07:07 > 0:07:11# I'll rail at all his servants
0:07:12 > 0:07:14# Well, what can a poor boy do?
0:07:16 > 0:07:18# Except join a rock 'n' roll band
0:07:19 > 0:07:21# Cos in sleepy London town
0:07:21 > 0:07:23# There's no place
0:07:23 > 0:07:24# For a street fighting man... #
0:07:27 > 0:07:28Whooo!
0:07:34 > 0:07:35Yeah, yeah!
0:08:24 > 0:08:27WILD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:08:34 > 0:08:37WILD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:08:46 > 0:08:48All right!
0:08:48 > 0:08:49Love you!
0:08:49 > 0:08:52WILD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:08:56 > 0:08:58SILENCE
0:09:24 > 0:09:27JET ENGINES ROAR
0:09:41 > 0:09:44FAINT CHATTER OF VOICES
0:09:44 > 0:09:48ECHOING HONKY-TONK PIANO PLAYS
0:10:03 > 0:10:05MUSIC: "Flight 505" by the Rolling Stones
0:10:05 > 0:10:07# Well, I was happy
0:10:07 > 0:10:08# Here at home
0:10:08 > 0:10:10# I got everything
0:10:10 > 0:10:12# I need
0:10:13 > 0:10:15# Happy bein' on my own
0:10:15 > 0:10:19# Just live the life I lead
0:10:19 > 0:10:21# Well, suddenly
0:10:21 > 0:10:23# It dawns on me
0:10:23 > 0:10:25# That this was not my life
0:10:26 > 0:10:29# So I just phoned
0:10:29 > 0:10:30# The airline girl
0:10:30 > 0:10:34# And said, get me on flight number 505
0:10:34 > 0:10:36# Get me on flight
0:10:36 > 0:10:39# Number 505. #
0:10:41 > 0:10:43Let's recap on the Rolling Stones.
0:10:43 > 0:10:46How did you all get together in the first place?
0:10:46 > 0:10:49I think we all met in clubs in London, jazz clubs.
0:10:49 > 0:10:52Actually, I answered an advert for a bass player.
0:10:52 > 0:10:57But the rest of them got together individually in jazz clubs and formed a group.
0:10:57 > 0:10:59- We move on now to Brian.- Hello.
0:10:59 > 0:11:01How long have you been with the Rolling Stones?
0:11:01 > 0:11:04- Are you one of the original members? - Yes, one of the original members.
0:11:04 > 0:11:07- What were you doing before you joined?- Erm...
0:11:07 > 0:11:11Well, just sort of bumming around waiting for something happen, really.
0:11:11 > 0:11:14I had a few jobs and I was trying to get a band going.
0:11:14 > 0:11:17But it was unsuccessful until I met up with Mick and Keith.
0:11:17 > 0:11:21Do you think the general public started getting a little tired of The Beatles
0:11:21 > 0:11:23and looked for something new?
0:11:23 > 0:11:28I don't know about that. What could you say to a thing like that?
0:11:28 > 0:11:31Things started happening for us.
0:11:31 > 0:11:35- Well... Why? Why did they start happening?- I don't really know.
0:11:35 > 0:11:40Something sort of... A chemical reaction seemed to have happened somehow.
0:11:40 > 0:11:43- What would you say happened? - I really don't know.
0:11:43 > 0:11:47MUSIC: "I Just Want To Make Love To You" by the Rolling Stones
0:11:47 > 0:11:49# I don't want you
0:11:49 > 0:11:51# Be no slave
0:11:51 > 0:11:53# I don't want you
0:11:53 > 0:11:55# Work all day
0:11:55 > 0:11:57# I don't want your
0:11:57 > 0:11:59# Money, too!
0:11:59 > 0:12:01# I just wanna make
0:12:01 > 0:12:02# Love to you
0:12:02 > 0:12:04# Oh baby, love to you... #
0:12:04 > 0:12:07The rise to popularity in London...
0:12:07 > 0:12:11Well, the rise to popularity in the world was very short.
0:12:11 > 0:12:14The first night there was about 80 people.
0:12:14 > 0:12:17The second night was about 120.
0:12:17 > 0:12:20And the third night, there were queues outside
0:12:20 > 0:12:22and they couldn't all get in.
0:12:22 > 0:12:24When you saw those crowds growing every week,
0:12:24 > 0:12:29you knew that you were striking a bell somewhere, you know,
0:12:29 > 0:12:31and that something was happening.
0:12:31 > 0:12:33Would you know why England became the pop centre?
0:12:33 > 0:12:38It just happened that England had the right type of sound
0:12:38 > 0:12:41and the right sort of visual image
0:12:41 > 0:12:44that the kids over the world wanted at this particular time.
0:12:45 > 0:12:49I think between Mick, Brian and me, we had a feeling that
0:12:49 > 0:12:52the idea to put a band that was a little less showbusiness
0:12:52 > 0:12:54was exactly at the right time.
0:12:54 > 0:12:58The showbiz angle just was boring to us.
0:12:58 > 0:13:00# ..Love to you, baby
0:13:00 > 0:13:02# Sweet love to you, baby
0:13:02 > 0:13:04# Love to you, baby
0:13:04 > 0:13:06# Love to you
0:13:06 > 0:13:07- # And I! - And I!
0:13:07 > 0:13:08# And I!
0:13:08 > 0:13:10- # And I! - And I!
0:13:10 > 0:13:11- # And I! - And I!
0:13:11 > 0:13:13- # And I! - And I!
0:13:14 > 0:13:17# I just wanna make love
0:13:17 > 0:13:19# To yo-o-o-u. #
0:13:23 > 0:13:25ALL SING: # Wherever I go
0:13:25 > 0:13:28# La-la, la-la-la
0:13:28 > 0:13:30# Dah-dah!
0:13:30 > 0:13:32# La-la-la
0:13:32 > 0:13:36# Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner
0:13:36 > 0:13:40# That I love London town. #
0:13:40 > 0:13:43'Of course, you have to talk about Andrew Oldham,
0:13:43 > 0:13:47'who been working for Brian Epstein with The Beatles.
0:13:47 > 0:13:50'He went around London and he heard that we were kicking up a storm in some clubs.
0:13:50 > 0:13:55'He just looks around and says, "Hey, there can't be just one band in England."'
0:13:55 > 0:13:57HE LAUGHS
0:13:57 > 0:14:01'Andrew wanted to make the Rolling Stones the anti-Beatles.
0:14:01 > 0:14:04'So if you've got heroes, you've got an anti-hero, like in a movie.
0:14:04 > 0:14:06'You've got good guys and bad guys.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09'Andrew decided that the Rolling Stones were the bad guys.
0:14:09 > 0:14:15'It wasn't just an accident. He thought the Rolling Stones would suit that image.
0:14:15 > 0:14:19'It helps to have people that go along with it or will fit the bill.
0:14:20 > 0:14:23'It's good to have an actor that will play the part.'
0:14:24 > 0:14:26CHANTING: We want the Stones!
0:14:26 > 0:14:28We want the Stones!
0:14:28 > 0:14:30We want the Stones!
0:14:30 > 0:14:32GETTING LOUDER: We want the Stones!
0:14:32 > 0:14:33We want the Stones!
0:14:33 > 0:14:36We want the Stones!
0:14:36 > 0:14:39We want the Stones! We want the Stones!
0:14:39 > 0:14:42We want the Stones!
0:14:42 > 0:14:43We want the Stones!
0:14:43 > 0:14:45We want the Stones!
0:14:45 > 0:14:47We want the Stones!
0:14:47 > 0:14:51MUSIC: "I'm All Right" by the Rolling Stones
0:14:51 > 0:14:53# It's all right!
0:14:54 > 0:14:55# It's all right
0:14:55 > 0:14:57# It's all right!
0:14:58 > 0:15:00# It's all right
0:15:00 > 0:15:02# It's all right
0:15:02 > 0:15:04# It's all right, baby
0:15:04 > 0:15:05# It's all right
0:15:07 > 0:15:09# Do you feel it?
0:15:11 > 0:15:12# Do you?
0:15:12 > 0:15:13# Do you feel it?
0:15:14 > 0:15:16# Do you?
0:15:16 > 0:15:17# Do you, do you, do you...? #
0:15:17 > 0:15:20It started, man, on the first tour.
0:15:22 > 0:15:26Halfway through things start to get crazy.
0:15:26 > 0:15:27# Do you feel all right?
0:15:30 > 0:15:32# Do you feel all right?
0:15:33 > 0:15:35# Do you feel all right?
0:15:35 > 0:15:38SOUND BEGINS TO BREAK UP
0:15:38 > 0:15:39- ECHOES:- # Feel...all right...girl?
0:15:39 > 0:15:41# Feel...all right...baby?
0:15:44 > 0:15:45# Come on, come on!
0:15:46 > 0:15:47# Come on... #
0:15:50 > 0:15:54AUDIENCE SCREAMS WILDLY
0:16:09 > 0:16:13FEEDBACK AND GUITAR LEADS BUZZ
0:16:13 > 0:16:17SCREAMING CONTINUES
0:16:17 > 0:16:19SILENCE
0:16:19 > 0:16:21We didn't play a show after that
0:16:21 > 0:16:25that was completed, I think, for two or three years.
0:16:25 > 0:16:27MUSIC: "Route 66" by the Rolling Stones
0:16:27 > 0:16:30WILD SCREAMING
0:16:36 > 0:16:40We would take bets on how long a show would last, you know.
0:16:40 > 0:16:42"You're on." "Ten minutes."
0:16:47 > 0:16:48And sure enough,
0:16:48 > 0:16:50wave after wave.
0:16:50 > 0:16:53Some of them are fainting, so the cops and the people and attendants
0:16:53 > 0:16:56are dragging them out on stage, you know.
0:16:56 > 0:16:58# ..On Route 66. #
0:16:58 > 0:17:03I could see the water just running down between the seats.
0:17:04 > 0:17:07It was just a flood of urine pouring down.
0:17:07 > 0:17:10The girls, all the girls, in the audience were wetting themselves.
0:17:11 > 0:17:12# Well, goes from St Louie
0:17:12 > 0:17:14# Down to Missouri
0:17:14 > 0:17:16# Oklahoma City looks, oh, so pretty... #
0:17:16 > 0:17:19Girls wet themselves when they get excited.
0:17:19 > 0:17:21# Gallup, New Mexico... #
0:17:21 > 0:17:25They were like these tiny little girls that would get in there
0:17:25 > 0:17:28and just scream and you couldn't hear anything.
0:17:28 > 0:17:31I just was mouthing it, hoping it was going to be OK.
0:17:35 > 0:17:38Brian and I, we played Popeye The Sailor Man...
0:17:38 > 0:17:40HE LAUGHS
0:17:40 > 0:17:43..and then waited for the shit to hit the fan.
0:17:47 > 0:17:51And you stayed there for as long as you could before it got besieged.
0:17:51 > 0:17:53And then you did a runner.
0:17:55 > 0:17:58Getting in and out was the big deal of the day.
0:17:58 > 0:18:00I hated that.
0:18:00 > 0:18:04I hated being chased by girls and all of that.
0:18:04 > 0:18:07It used to really embarrass me.
0:18:07 > 0:18:10I wish they could have turned it off when the show stopped!
0:18:26 > 0:18:27# Get your kicks
0:18:27 > 0:18:30# On Route 66. #
0:18:32 > 0:18:34CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:18:35 > 0:18:40Has there ever been a time getting into theatres and away from them,
0:18:40 > 0:18:44that you've really had the wind up your sails on occasions?
0:18:44 > 0:18:48You really were going to be cut off from... You know, get caught in the crowd virtually?
0:18:48 > 0:18:50- Last night was bad. - Yes, last night was a good example.
0:18:50 > 0:18:54- What is your worst experience? - We knocked a policeman off his bike.
0:18:54 > 0:18:59- He broke his leg or something. - Yeah, he was very cool on his bike.
0:18:59 > 0:19:01Until we ran into him!
0:19:01 > 0:19:04I guess the Rolling Stones aren't everyone's cup of tea.
0:19:04 > 0:19:06And that's the understatement of the year.
0:19:06 > 0:19:10There are whole armies of parents who become almost homicidal at the sight of them.
0:19:10 > 0:19:16Both on stage and off, the Stones don't exactly generate an aura of sweetness and light.
0:19:16 > 0:19:20And their carefully calculated air of "Blow you, Jack!"
0:19:20 > 0:19:22has won them almost as many enemies as fans.
0:19:22 > 0:19:25The Beatles are loved by pretty well everybody,
0:19:25 > 0:19:27from the mums down to the teenagers.
0:19:27 > 0:19:31But what's your real appeal to the fans, do you think?
0:19:31 > 0:19:35You do tend to present a sort of yobbo-ish image.
0:19:35 > 0:19:37- You know, you tend... - "Moronic" I think is the best word.
0:19:37 > 0:19:39- Yes, moronic.- Moronic. - Moronic, that's the word.
0:19:39 > 0:19:42AS A MORON: What's he talking about?
0:19:42 > 0:19:46But the thing is, that you've all had very good educations.
0:19:46 > 0:19:50I mean, why do you present this image? Is it deliberate?
0:19:50 > 0:19:52There are lot of morons at grammar schools, you know.
0:19:55 > 0:19:57Deeeee...
0:19:57 > 0:19:59Yooooow...
0:20:00 > 0:20:01D'aaagh!
0:20:02 > 0:20:04Maooooow!
0:20:06 > 0:20:07A-huh-huh!
0:20:07 > 0:20:08- A-huh-huh!- A-huh-huh!
0:20:10 > 0:20:12Wish this was all on film, man! Could be great.
0:20:12 > 0:20:15'You see, you're thrust into the limelight
0:20:15 > 0:20:19'in a youth-orientated thing. It's not about growing up.
0:20:19 > 0:20:22'It's about NOT growing up, in a way.
0:20:22 > 0:20:24'Then it's about bad behaviour.
0:20:24 > 0:20:29'And you're about bad behaviour, so then you start behaving badly.'
0:20:29 > 0:20:33'It's the weirdest situation. If you did something wrong, even better!
0:20:33 > 0:20:36'And The Beatles got the white hat, you know.
0:20:36 > 0:20:38HE LAUGHS
0:20:38 > 0:20:41'What's left? The black hat.'
0:20:41 > 0:20:44MUSIC: "Little Red Rooster" by the Rolling Stones
0:20:46 > 0:20:49We never abided by any rules
0:20:49 > 0:20:53that were the gentlemanly things. We never did it.
0:20:53 > 0:20:58That was part and parcel of why we just got ostracised by everyone.
0:20:58 > 0:21:01# Too lazy to crow for day. #
0:21:01 > 0:21:06People used to shout at us, "You're a load of girls!" and, "Get your bloody hair cut!"
0:21:06 > 0:21:09And all this, you know. "Ha-ha-ha!" Make jokes about us.
0:21:09 > 0:21:11You'd see 'em all laughing and pointing and all that.
0:21:11 > 0:21:15It's obvious that you don't get your hair cut, but do you get a trim from time to time?
0:21:15 > 0:21:17Yes, I do. Last night. Last night, yeah.
0:21:17 > 0:21:21- Last night?- Mm.- It's certainly grown a lot since then!
0:21:21 > 0:21:25We were just refusing to conform to what everybody wanted us to be.
0:21:25 > 0:21:29This particular hotel manager was trying to be over-officious.
0:21:29 > 0:21:32And I, honestly and sincerely, don't have a tie, you see?
0:21:32 > 0:21:34I used to wear a tie, but the boys didn't wear ties.
0:21:34 > 0:21:38I thought I'd look a bit out if I wore one. So I stopped wearing 'em.
0:21:39 > 0:21:42# ..The hounds begin to howl. #
0:21:42 > 0:21:46Brian used to get upset when they used to say,
0:21:46 > 0:21:50"I stood next to 'em and I could see the fleas jumping off their hair."
0:21:50 > 0:21:52They used to call us the Neanderthals.
0:21:52 > 0:21:55And the ugliest group in the world.
0:21:55 > 0:21:57What sort of words have you been called, in fact?
0:21:57 > 0:22:00- The four-letter words? - No, the ones that are repeatable.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03We've been called just about everything from beautiful to revolting.
0:22:04 > 0:22:07Brian was a very clever musician.
0:22:07 > 0:22:12He played bottleneck guitar, electric, and nobody did that.
0:22:12 > 0:22:15Except in America! But I mean, nobody did it in London.
0:22:15 > 0:22:19He'd had more experience, I think, in playing.
0:22:19 > 0:22:23So he had some level of musical accomplishment.
0:22:23 > 0:22:26Really Keith and I really didn't.
0:22:28 > 0:22:31Brian and Keith had the worst humour.
0:22:31 > 0:22:35They used to call ordinary working people "Ernies".
0:22:35 > 0:22:38Brian always used to pull his nose down and pull his ear out.
0:22:38 > 0:22:40STUPID VOICE: And talk like that.
0:22:40 > 0:22:44You know, like "working people"! Oh, they were awful!
0:22:45 > 0:22:48Shit, by then we were like jerking it up.
0:22:48 > 0:22:51You know, I mean, it was them against us
0:22:51 > 0:22:54in the most obvious way.
0:22:54 > 0:22:58Sort of, I don't know, perverted anarchy!
0:22:58 > 0:23:00HE LAUGHS
0:23:04 > 0:23:09What about the standard charge that no-one would let their daughter marry a Rolling Stone?
0:23:09 > 0:23:11- Here's the living proof! - Two of them already did!
0:23:11 > 0:23:14- I married one. - You married a Rolling Stone?
0:23:14 > 0:23:18- What's this about walking about in bathing suits with all those girls in Texas?- No, that's not...
0:23:18 > 0:23:22- No, it was Georgia.- Georgia! - What can you expect from Georgia?
0:23:22 > 0:23:24Georgia is full of idiots.
0:23:24 > 0:23:28- You're being accused of being vulgar, obstinate and hostile. Are you?- That's right, yes.
0:23:28 > 0:23:31- Well...- We're uncouth and obstinate.
0:23:31 > 0:23:34Forthright maybe, but I don't think vulgar and hostile.
0:23:34 > 0:23:37- We're only hostile when we're... - Too many people talk like the truth!
0:23:37 > 0:23:40What do you give credit for your success now? What is it?
0:23:40 > 0:23:42- Music.- Music?- Music. - Our records have sold.
0:23:42 > 0:23:46Anything you'd like to say right now before the camera rolls up?
0:23:46 > 0:23:48- Goodbye.- Goodbye!
0:23:48 > 0:23:52- How much of your act is acting? - Well, I suppose, really, all of it's acting, you know.
0:23:52 > 0:23:56But there's a difference between acting and not enjoying it
0:23:56 > 0:24:00and acting and just doing what you want to do. It's like getting into a part.
0:24:00 > 0:24:03SCREAMING AND CHEERING
0:24:03 > 0:24:06MUSIC: "It's All Over Now" by the Rolling Stones
0:24:09 > 0:24:11# Well, baby used to stay out
0:24:11 > 0:24:13# All night long
0:24:14 > 0:24:16# She made me cry
0:24:16 > 0:24:18# She done me wrong
0:24:19 > 0:24:21# She hurt my nose open
0:24:21 > 0:24:23# That's no lies
0:24:23 > 0:24:25# Tables turning
0:24:25 > 0:24:27# And now it's her turn to cry
0:24:27 > 0:24:30# Because I used to love her
0:24:30 > 0:24:33# But it's all over now
0:24:36 > 0:24:40# Because I used to love her
0:24:40 > 0:24:42# But it's all over now... #
0:24:46 > 0:24:49As a singer and doing a performance,
0:24:49 > 0:24:53you've got to be very finely attuned to what's going on in the audience.
0:24:57 > 0:25:00Little Richard, literally, taught me this stuff.
0:25:01 > 0:25:04I watched how he would harangue the crowd almost.
0:25:04 > 0:25:07WILD SCREAMING
0:25:07 > 0:25:08He would tease them.
0:25:08 > 0:25:11- AS LITTLE RICHARD: - Ev'rybody stand up! I said stand up!
0:25:11 > 0:25:14You know, and they would. He was outrageous.
0:25:14 > 0:25:18It kept it all alive, you know, and you never quite knew what was going to happen.
0:25:27 > 0:25:29WILD SCREAMING AND CHEERING
0:25:36 > 0:25:39In those days, we only played covers.
0:25:39 > 0:25:41The first album was all covers.
0:25:41 > 0:25:46I remember having this discussion. "Well, what do we do now? We can't make a second album of covers."
0:25:46 > 0:25:49We all really knew we'd come to the wall there.
0:25:49 > 0:25:54Andrew Oldham said, "If you want to keep going, you've got to..."
0:25:54 > 0:25:56You know, "We need new material."
0:25:56 > 0:25:59This is something I couldn't have conceived.
0:25:59 > 0:26:03A songwriter, like a blacksmith, does the ironwork.
0:26:03 > 0:26:04HE LAUGHS
0:26:04 > 0:26:08And the horse wears them, do you know what I mean?
0:26:08 > 0:26:12Suddenly, you know, just playing guitar and playing blues...
0:26:12 > 0:26:16Suddenly, it wasn't enough, you know.
0:26:16 > 0:26:20Now they wanted to invent things for me to play.
0:26:20 > 0:26:21GUITAR PLAYS
0:26:21 > 0:26:24# Give you what you don't get now... #
0:26:26 > 0:26:28- Add another on top of this.- Yeah.
0:26:28 > 0:26:32- Otherwise we can duplicate. I'm sitting on a fence with you. - Sitting on a fence with me?
0:26:32 > 0:26:36# Oh yes, I'm sitting on a fence. # All that.
0:26:36 > 0:26:38It's very hard to know where to put the title.
0:26:38 > 0:26:40- HE HUMS - That's good. It's all right.
0:26:40 > 0:26:43I wanted to make it like he was sitting on the fence
0:26:43 > 0:26:46and couldn't make up his mind between one girl and the other.
0:26:46 > 0:26:50And he couldn't stand sitting on the fence cos it was getting very painful.
0:26:50 > 0:26:52LAUGHTER
0:26:52 > 0:26:55'You know, we'd started experimenting with writing.
0:26:55 > 0:26:58'We weren't maybe very good at it, but we were trying.
0:26:58 > 0:27:02'You know, maybe not. Not everybody can write!'
0:27:02 > 0:27:04GUITAR PLAYS
0:27:04 > 0:27:07# Now I'm sitting on a fence... #
0:27:07 > 0:27:11'We went on to write a whole load of crap, er...
0:27:13 > 0:27:16'..And we didn't dare for months and months and months
0:27:16 > 0:27:18'to write a song for the Stones.
0:27:18 > 0:27:22'You know, "Oh God, man!" That's a whole other trip, you know.'
0:27:22 > 0:27:23HE LAUGHS
0:27:25 > 0:27:26# I, I, I...
0:27:29 > 0:27:32# I want... I want you back again... #
0:27:32 > 0:27:37'The first song that I remember writing with the Rolling Stones was Tell Me,
0:27:37 > 0:27:40'which is a tiny, minor, mini hit.
0:27:40 > 0:27:43'You know, it was very gratifying
0:27:43 > 0:27:46'because we'd only done these cover songs.'
0:27:47 > 0:27:51# I know you find it hard
0:27:52 > 0:27:55# To reason with me
0:27:57 > 0:28:00# But this time it's different
0:28:02 > 0:28:04# Darling, you'll see.
0:28:05 > 0:28:06# You gotta... #
0:28:06 > 0:28:08'Every little moment we had of hanging around
0:28:08 > 0:28:11'Keith and I used to be sitting with guitars trying to write songs.
0:28:11 > 0:28:15'We wrote songs all the time. We were constantly coming up with ideas.
0:28:15 > 0:28:19'We started writing songs that were reflective of the time we were living in.
0:28:19 > 0:28:22'And that struck a chord with our audience.'
0:28:23 > 0:28:26# You've gotta tell me it's all right
0:28:26 > 0:28:27# Come home
0:28:28 > 0:28:30# Come on, baby, yeah, yeah
0:28:30 > 0:28:32# It's all right!
0:28:33 > 0:28:34# It's all right! #
0:28:34 > 0:28:36LAUGHTER
0:28:36 > 0:28:39'You're connecting and you're getting a lot of feedback.
0:28:39 > 0:28:40'You're feeling what the audience is feeling.
0:28:40 > 0:28:46'You're exchanging with the audience a kind of ideas stream.'
0:28:46 > 0:28:50MUSIC: "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" by the Rolling Stones
0:28:54 > 0:28:57# I can't get no
0:28:57 > 0:29:00# Satisfaction
0:29:01 > 0:29:04# I can't get no
0:29:04 > 0:29:07# Satisfaction
0:29:07 > 0:29:08# Cos I try
0:29:08 > 0:29:09# And I try
0:29:10 > 0:29:11# And I try
0:29:11 > 0:29:12# And I try
0:29:13 > 0:29:15# I can't get no
0:29:16 > 0:29:18# I can't get no... #
0:29:18 > 0:29:20What's your opinion of the Rolling Stones?
0:29:20 > 0:29:24I think they're the greatest - the best thing that's ever happened in the United States.
0:29:24 > 0:29:26They're so ugly that they're appealing.
0:29:26 > 0:29:28# He's telling me more and more... #
0:29:28 > 0:29:30SCREAMING
0:29:30 > 0:29:36What would happen if they took the Rolling Stones and all these other other rock and rollers away?
0:29:36 > 0:29:40I don't know. These parents would be very happy, I can tell you that much!
0:29:40 > 0:29:41# No, no!
0:29:42 > 0:29:43# Wooh, hey, hey, hey!
0:29:43 > 0:29:46How's your popularity in Europe at this moment?
0:29:46 > 0:29:48Very good, I think. Very healthy.
0:29:48 > 0:29:50SCREAMING
0:29:50 > 0:29:53- ..The Rolling Stones... - ..Spannungen...
0:29:54 > 0:29:57- ..The Rolling Stones... - ..S'appelle le Rolling Stones...
0:29:57 > 0:29:58Il est Rolling Stones.
0:29:58 > 0:30:00# Can't get no
0:30:00 > 0:30:02# Satisfaction
0:30:02 > 0:30:04# Cos I try
0:30:04 > 0:30:05# And I try
0:30:05 > 0:30:07# And I try
0:30:07 > 0:30:09# And I try
0:30:09 > 0:30:10# I can't get no
0:30:12 > 0:30:14# I can't get no... #
0:30:14 > 0:30:17The kids are looking for something else. Some different moral value.
0:30:17 > 0:30:20They've got to strive for something else
0:30:20 > 0:30:23instead of just the same routine that their parents have fallen into.
0:30:23 > 0:30:25Splash on ice blue Aqua Velva!
0:30:25 > 0:30:27# Well, he can't be a man
0:30:27 > 0:30:29# He doesn't smoke
0:30:29 > 0:30:31# The same cigarettes as me
0:30:31 > 0:30:34# I can't get no
0:30:34 > 0:30:37# All right. No, no, no!
0:30:39 > 0:30:40# Can't get no
0:30:41 > 0:30:43# I can't get no... #
0:30:43 > 0:30:45Creamy lather!
0:30:45 > 0:30:46# No, no
0:30:46 > 0:30:47# No!
0:30:48 > 0:30:49# Hey, hey, hey!
0:30:51 > 0:30:53# Is what I say... #
0:30:53 > 0:30:58I can't express myself in the right way when I feel satisfied with the world.
0:31:00 > 0:31:05It's very easy if I feel very dissatisfied with something. I can write about that.
0:31:05 > 0:31:09Why then, if you think most your work is about dissatisfaction,
0:31:09 > 0:31:13- why do you think you're so popular? - Because most young people are dissatisfied.
0:31:13 > 0:31:15In what way?
0:31:16 > 0:31:20With the generation which they think is running their lives.
0:31:20 > 0:31:23What things are you dissatisfied with?
0:31:23 > 0:31:27The generation that runs our lives.
0:31:27 > 0:31:29WILD SCREAMING AND CHEERING
0:31:37 > 0:31:38All right!
0:31:38 > 0:31:40# Well, I get, I get no
0:31:41 > 0:31:42All right!
0:31:42 > 0:31:44# Well, I get, I get no
0:31:44 > 0:31:45All right!
0:31:45 > 0:31:47# I get, I get no
0:31:47 > 0:31:48# Satisfaction
0:31:48 > 0:31:51# I said, I got a little girly action
0:31:51 > 0:31:53# I got some... #
0:32:03 > 0:32:06When these girls pounce upon Mick,
0:32:06 > 0:32:08and seem to want to tear him to pieces,
0:32:08 > 0:32:11it's not, essentially, an act of aggression,
0:32:11 > 0:32:15but rather an act of devouring him.
0:32:15 > 0:32:18They want to incorporate his essence.
0:32:18 > 0:32:20It's a sort of fetishism,
0:32:20 > 0:32:26which has more in common with people collecting the relics of saints, as they did in the ancient past.
0:32:26 > 0:32:31There's really no break with the ancient tradition. It's just a question of form.
0:32:31 > 0:32:36I've seen this with the most marvellous, dramatic intensity,
0:32:36 > 0:32:38with two or three thousand young girls in Manchester.
0:32:38 > 0:32:41And these girls, they wept. They were possessed by the spirit.
0:32:41 > 0:32:46And I may add, that all their little panties were soaking wet at the end.
0:32:46 > 0:32:49I mean, a complete physical and mental absorption.
0:32:49 > 0:32:52I think that's very true.
0:32:52 > 0:32:55Though I think what's more interesting
0:32:55 > 0:32:59is that in this country the audiences,
0:32:59 > 0:33:01indeed all girls, and they do behave in this way.
0:33:01 > 0:33:05But in the rest of the world, this isn't true.
0:33:05 > 0:33:07In lots of places, they're nearly all boys.
0:33:07 > 0:33:12- With the boys, it erupts, you know...- Aggressively. - Much more aggressively.
0:33:12 > 0:33:17And they use it to have a great fight with the police. They just beat the police up,
0:33:17 > 0:33:20as a show of sort of strength,
0:33:20 > 0:33:24or a show of dissatisfaction with something.
0:33:24 > 0:33:27MUSIC: "Paint It Black" by the Rolling Stones
0:33:27 > 0:33:29# I see a red door
0:33:29 > 0:33:32# And I want it painted black
0:33:33 > 0:33:35# No colours any more
0:33:35 > 0:33:38# I want them to turn black
0:33:39 > 0:33:41# I see the girls walk by
0:33:41 > 0:33:44# Dressed in their summer clothes
0:33:45 > 0:33:47# I have to turn my head... #
0:33:47 > 0:33:50We had riots every night.
0:33:50 > 0:33:52It was insane.
0:33:53 > 0:33:57I think they just wanted to be part of that rebellious thing
0:33:57 > 0:33:59that we were instigating.
0:33:59 > 0:34:03They weren't attacking us. It was always having goes at the police.
0:34:03 > 0:34:05# I see people turn their heads
0:34:05 > 0:34:08# And quickly look away
0:34:09 > 0:34:11# Like a new-born baby
0:34:11 > 0:34:14# It just happens e'vry day
0:34:16 > 0:34:18# I look inside myself... #
0:34:18 > 0:34:20'Now we're entering the area of social unrest,
0:34:20 > 0:34:24'manifesting itself in a crowd situation.
0:34:24 > 0:34:27'You're just merely the catalyst of the crowd.
0:34:27 > 0:34:30'You know, it could be anything - a football match.
0:34:30 > 0:34:32'You're it on that day.'
0:34:33 > 0:34:37They like the group as well, otherwise they wouldn't come.
0:34:37 > 0:34:40That's just only half of the show.
0:34:40 > 0:34:44The other half of the show is then participating in a riot.
0:34:45 > 0:34:49# I could not foresee this thing
0:34:49 > 0:34:50# Happening to you
0:34:52 > 0:34:54# If I look hard enough
0:34:54 > 0:34:57# Into the settin' sun... #
0:34:57 > 0:34:59What makes you think there would be a riot?
0:34:59 > 0:35:04Well, the Stones seem to have a history of creating violence wherever they go.
0:35:15 > 0:35:17# I wanna see it painted
0:35:17 > 0:35:19# Painted black
0:35:19 > 0:35:20# Black as night
0:35:20 > 0:35:21# Black as coal
0:35:21 > 0:35:23# I wanna see the sun
0:35:24 > 0:35:26# Blotted out from the sky
0:35:27 > 0:35:30# I wanna see it painted, painted, painted
0:35:30 > 0:35:32# Painted black... #
0:35:32 > 0:35:33Yeah!
0:35:39 > 0:35:41ENGINE REVS
0:35:51 > 0:35:53HEAVY BREATHING
0:35:53 > 0:35:57There are a lot of things that the establishment does not like about Mick Jagger.
0:35:57 > 0:36:02But perhaps what rankles most is that he speaks to a vast segment of the population that they can't.
0:36:02 > 0:36:07Across a barrier that at times must be measured in light years,
0:36:07 > 0:36:11the two generations eye each other wearily and distrustfully.
0:36:11 > 0:36:15MUSIC: "Let's Spend The Night Together" by the Rolling Stones
0:36:15 > 0:36:17# My, my, my, my
0:36:17 > 0:36:19# Ba-Ba, ba-ba, ba-ba, ba-ba-ba! #
0:36:19 > 0:36:23It felt like an explosive moment.
0:36:23 > 0:36:27People felt this sensation that something was going on
0:36:27 > 0:36:31that had never happened before, that they'd been waiting to happen.
0:36:34 > 0:36:35# I'm going red
0:36:35 > 0:36:37# And my tongue's getting tied
0:36:37 > 0:36:38# Tongue's getting tied! #
0:36:38 > 0:36:41And it was at that same time in London,
0:36:41 > 0:36:44that all kinds of shit was hitting the fan.
0:36:44 > 0:36:47And, of course, we joined in.
0:36:47 > 0:36:50# Let's spend the night together
0:36:50 > 0:36:53# Now I need you more than ever
0:36:54 > 0:36:57# Let's spend the night together now
0:36:57 > 0:36:59# Ba-ba, ba-ba, ba-ba, ba-ba-ba... #
0:36:59 > 0:37:03Passport to success is a first-class ticket.
0:37:03 > 0:37:07You know, to a lot of... of things.
0:37:07 > 0:37:10# Let's spend the night together... #
0:37:10 > 0:37:13We all smoked dope. I mean, except for Bill.
0:37:13 > 0:37:17But it was pretty innocent stuff. And then you've got more and more different drugs coming in -
0:37:17 > 0:37:21LSD, cocaine, heroin and all these things.
0:37:21 > 0:37:23What do you think of LSD? Is it nice?
0:37:23 > 0:37:26- LAUGHTER - It's very nice. LSD is very nice.
0:37:27 > 0:37:30'It was like a orgy of drugs, actually!'
0:37:30 > 0:37:31# Baby!
0:37:32 > 0:37:35# You need some guiding, baby. #
0:37:35 > 0:37:39And those drugs were a great interest to the press
0:37:39 > 0:37:42and the general public.
0:37:42 > 0:37:44# Let's spend the night together
0:37:45 > 0:37:48# Let's spend the night together now. #
0:37:51 > 0:37:55The News Of The World was a newspaper that liked to
0:37:55 > 0:37:59reveal the faults in society.
0:37:59 > 0:38:03And they followed people, they put private detectives on people and, unfortunately...
0:38:04 > 0:38:07- ECHOES:- 'It was a set unfortunate, set unfortunate...
0:38:07 > 0:38:10'We were going to have this party, which was the only party...
0:38:10 > 0:38:15'So we're having this party in Keith's house in Redlands and we went off for this expedition.
0:38:16 > 0:38:20'We took acid and then it took a long while to start.
0:38:20 > 0:38:22'It always does.
0:38:25 > 0:38:28'And we met someone who was milking a cow.
0:38:28 > 0:38:31'I don't like milk very much.
0:38:31 > 0:38:34'He said, "Oh, come on, Mick, try the milk."
0:38:34 > 0:38:37'When you're on acid, everything's different.
0:38:40 > 0:38:45'I stood and like milk... I mean, acid, fresh cow milk, everything.
0:38:45 > 0:38:48'And we walked back down to the car and went back to Redlands,
0:38:48 > 0:38:50'by which time it was evening.'
0:38:50 > 0:38:54- VOICES ECHO:- Problems, man, taking these things. Do it in later life.
0:38:54 > 0:38:58'So we're all coming down and it's a very smooth come down.
0:38:58 > 0:39:00'And we're just sitting around smoking a couple of joints.
0:39:00 > 0:39:05'And, er, bang, bang, bang on the door.'
0:39:05 > 0:39:08# She comes in colours everywhere
0:39:08 > 0:39:10# She combs her hair
0:39:10 > 0:39:14# She's like a rainbow... #
0:39:14 > 0:39:17- What'd been a lovely day, on acid... - HE LAUGHS
0:39:17 > 0:39:20had turned out to be a very unpleasant evening.
0:39:20 > 0:39:23The News Of The World told the police there was a big drug party
0:39:23 > 0:39:27and they should go and break it up and arrest everybody.
0:39:28 > 0:39:30A national newspaper had tipped off the police
0:39:30 > 0:39:34that it would be worth their while to raid Richards' home for drugs
0:39:34 > 0:39:38on the Sunday afternoon and the raid was carried out on Sunday evening.
0:39:38 > 0:39:42There was a gasp of pure horror from the youngsters crowded into the public gallery
0:39:42 > 0:39:45at the moment Judge Block said sternly to Richards
0:39:45 > 0:39:47that he offence carried a maximum sentence of ten years.
0:39:47 > 0:39:51MUSIC: "She's A Rainbow" by the Rolling Stones
0:39:51 > 0:39:54Emotionally speaking, it was very difficult
0:39:54 > 0:39:59because they thought we were going to be put away and never make another record for years and years.
0:39:59 > 0:40:04People wanted prison sentences. It wasn't just a fine and a wrap across the knuckles.
0:40:07 > 0:40:10We just kind of thought it was the end of the band, really.
0:40:10 > 0:40:13We never knew who was going to be in or out of jail,
0:40:13 > 0:40:16and whether there was a future and all that.
0:40:17 > 0:40:21Did you feel that you were being persecuted for being a Rolling Stone?
0:40:21 > 0:40:26It was obvious that that notoriety, plus the press thing,
0:40:26 > 0:40:31turned it into - yes, it was a good bust for the police, wasn't it? And fun for the press.
0:40:31 > 0:40:35There goes lunch for Richards and Jagger in the cells -
0:40:35 > 0:40:39prawn cocktail, roast lamb with mint sauce, fresh strawberries and cream.
0:40:39 > 0:40:4121 and 6 for Jagger.
0:40:41 > 0:40:45Iced melon, salmon salad, fresh fruit, strawberries and cream. 22 and 6 for Richards.
0:40:45 > 0:40:48And a half bottle of Beaujolais at ten bob a head for each.
0:40:48 > 0:40:53I'd never been in court before and I can't stand the way he's talking to me.
0:40:53 > 0:40:58Calling me reprobate and a menace to society and all of that.
0:40:58 > 0:41:00HE LAUGHS
0:41:00 > 0:41:02All I said was that...
0:41:02 > 0:41:06I'm not interested in your petty morals,
0:41:06 > 0:41:09which gave me a year in the slammer!
0:41:09 > 0:41:11HE LAUGHS
0:41:11 > 0:41:13There was a dead silence as the judge added,
0:41:13 > 0:41:15"You will go to prison for one year."
0:41:15 > 0:41:20And Richards, who earlier had talked in his evidence of what he called "petty morals",
0:41:20 > 0:41:22went down to the cells without expression.
0:41:22 > 0:41:26Jagger put his hand to his face as he was given three months.
0:41:26 > 0:41:30For a moment, he looked like fainting, then prison officers moved forward
0:41:30 > 0:41:33to take his arms and help him down to the cells.
0:41:33 > 0:41:38Mick was taken to Brixton and they sent me to Wormwood Scrubs,
0:41:38 > 0:41:40which is like even worse.
0:41:40 > 0:41:44It's like Folsom or something, you know.
0:41:44 > 0:41:46And walking, I'm doing my first day.
0:41:46 > 0:41:51I've got the uniform on and we're walking round this courtyard in a circle.
0:41:51 > 0:41:54- You know, "exercise" it's called! - HE LAUGHS
0:41:54 > 0:41:58And then I get a tap on the shoulder from one of the other cons behind me.
0:41:58 > 0:42:00"You're out."
0:42:00 > 0:42:03He said, "We've heard it on the radio."
0:42:03 > 0:42:07I said, "Thank Christ for that!"
0:42:07 > 0:42:11- NEWSREEL:- London - it's years since such crowds gathered to await an appeal verdict.
0:42:11 > 0:42:14But this was a Rolling Stone's case, with the fans out in force.
0:42:14 > 0:42:18When Mick Jagger was conditionally discharged and Keith Richards' sentence quashed,
0:42:18 > 0:42:23the pop idols drove off, the shadow of jail no longer over them.
0:42:25 > 0:42:27I think I looked at it at the time as like,
0:42:27 > 0:42:32"They can try all they want. They won't make this stick because I've got all these people out there."
0:42:32 > 0:42:37And unless I murdered somebody, they're going to insist that I'm out.
0:42:37 > 0:42:42You've been targeted and then you can revel in your rebelliousness, if you want.
0:42:42 > 0:42:44Because people are doing that for you.
0:42:44 > 0:42:47People are saying, "Oh, it's awful. They've been targeted!"
0:42:47 > 0:42:52It cemented our relationships with our generation, with the public.
0:42:52 > 0:42:57And it sort of gave us a badge of honour, in a way, you know.
0:42:57 > 0:43:00To me, it just made me like, "OK, now you know who I am."
0:43:00 > 0:43:03You've, basically, given me a licence now!
0:43:03 > 0:43:08You know, it's Jessie James time. The cops turned me into a criminal.
0:43:08 > 0:43:12You know, that's when I started to carry a shooter in America.
0:43:12 > 0:43:15- So the outlaw was born?- Yeah.
0:43:15 > 0:43:20I mean, fully blown. That was when you really put the black hat on.
0:43:20 > 0:43:23Before that, it was just sort of off-grey.
0:43:23 > 0:43:25HE LAUGHS RASPINGLY
0:43:25 > 0:43:29# I was born in a cross-fire hurricane
0:43:32 > 0:43:37# And I howled at my ma in the driving rain
0:43:39 > 0:43:43# But it's all right
0:43:43 > 0:43:46# Now, in fact, it's a gas
0:43:46 > 0:43:50# But it's all right
0:43:50 > 0:43:52# I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash
0:43:52 > 0:43:54# It's a gas, gas, gas!
0:44:04 > 0:44:08# I was raised by a toothless, bearded hag
0:44:10 > 0:44:15# I was schooled with a strap right across my back
0:44:18 > 0:44:22# But it's all right now
0:44:22 > 0:44:24# In fact, it's a gas
0:44:24 > 0:44:28# But it's all right
0:44:28 > 0:44:30# I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash
0:44:30 > 0:44:32# It's a gas, gas, gas... #
0:44:32 > 0:44:34Oooh!
0:44:37 > 0:44:42In a way, I kinda felt that everybody else was writing a script for me.
0:44:42 > 0:44:44"You're going to do what I can't."
0:44:44 > 0:44:46"OK."
0:44:46 > 0:44:50That is a very easy role to slip into.
0:44:50 > 0:44:53There was a slot available and it was just built for me.
0:44:53 > 0:44:54HE LAUGHS
0:44:54 > 0:44:57# Jumpin' Jack Flash, it's a gas... #
0:44:57 > 0:45:00If you're a method actor, you always stay in character.
0:45:02 > 0:45:05- His character has changed.- Yes, he's changed a lot, this character.
0:45:05 > 0:45:08He's had a lot of changes. It's not just one change.
0:45:08 > 0:45:13He's gone through, you know, every six months another person.
0:45:16 > 0:45:19Every actor's character is part of themselves.
0:45:19 > 0:45:22You can only act what's in you.
0:45:24 > 0:45:26Rolling Stones, five. Take four.
0:45:26 > 0:45:30The Jumping Jack Flash character is more been through the mill
0:45:30 > 0:45:33and come out the other side smiling.
0:45:33 > 0:45:34Yow!
0:45:34 > 0:45:37The Sympathy character's much more complicated,
0:45:37 > 0:45:41because my inspiration for that came from Baudelaire and The Master And Margarita,
0:45:41 > 0:45:44so I had all these things going on.
0:45:44 > 0:45:45Ooow!
0:45:47 > 0:45:51MUSIC: "Sympathy For The Devil" by the Rolling Stones
0:45:53 > 0:45:56It was very much for the time and everything.
0:45:56 > 0:45:58I mean, it's got the violence of the time in it.
0:46:00 > 0:46:01It's provocative.
0:46:07 > 0:46:11# Please allow me to introduce myself
0:46:11 > 0:46:14# I'm a man of wealth and taste
0:46:16 > 0:46:19# I've been around for a long, long year
0:46:19 > 0:46:23# Stole many a man's soul and faith
0:46:24 > 0:46:27# I was 'round when Jesus Christ
0:46:27 > 0:46:31# Had his moment of doubt and pain
0:46:32 > 0:46:35# Made damn sure that Pilate
0:46:35 > 0:46:39# Washed his hands and sealed his fate
0:46:42 > 0:46:44# Pleased to meet you
0:46:44 > 0:46:47# Hope you guessed my name... #
0:46:47 > 0:46:52The violence was all-pervasive and you can't help but live in it
0:46:52 > 0:46:57and reflect it back again and then, of course, it goes into a feedback loop.
0:46:58 > 0:46:59# I watched with glee
0:46:59 > 0:47:01# While you kings and queens
0:47:01 > 0:47:03# Fought for ten decades
0:47:03 > 0:47:06# For the gods they made
0:47:06 > 0:47:07# I shouted out!
0:47:07 > 0:47:09# Who killed the Kennedys?
0:47:09 > 0:47:11# Well, after all
0:47:11 > 0:47:13# It was you and me
0:47:14 > 0:47:17# So let me, please, introduce myself
0:47:18 > 0:47:21# I'm a man of wealth and taste
0:47:22 > 0:47:25# And I laid traps for troubadours
0:47:25 > 0:47:28# Who get killed before they reach Bombay
0:47:32 > 0:47:34# Pleased to meet you
0:47:35 > 0:47:37# Hope you guessed my name
0:47:37 > 0:47:38# Oh, yeah
0:47:39 > 0:47:42# But what's puzzling you is just
0:47:42 > 0:47:45# The nature of my game
0:47:45 > 0:47:46# Oh, yeah... #
0:47:46 > 0:47:48Get down with it!
0:47:48 > 0:47:52I mean, in a way, the Rolling Stones overtake it.
0:47:52 > 0:47:55And it's almost like you're sort of levitating.
0:47:55 > 0:47:57Ooh-hoo!
0:47:57 > 0:48:01You don't even want to touch the strings, cos they're doing it themselves.
0:48:01 > 0:48:04And, anyway, they'd be too hot.
0:48:04 > 0:48:06Ah, baby. All right.
0:48:07 > 0:48:08All right.
0:48:09 > 0:48:10All right.
0:48:11 > 0:48:13Aaah, yeah!
0:48:13 > 0:48:14Wooo!
0:48:16 > 0:48:17Woo!
0:48:17 > 0:48:18All right.
0:48:18 > 0:48:20Aah, yeah!
0:48:20 > 0:48:22# Tell me, baby!
0:48:22 > 0:48:24# What's my name?
0:48:24 > 0:48:26# Tell me, babe!
0:48:26 > 0:48:27# Tell me, baby!
0:48:28 > 0:48:29# What's my name?
0:48:30 > 0:48:32# Won't you tell me, sweetie?
0:48:34 > 0:48:35# Woo-hoo-hoo!
0:48:35 > 0:48:37# Aah, yeah!
0:48:38 > 0:48:39# Woo-hoo-hoo!
0:48:42 > 0:48:43# Tell me, baby!
0:48:43 > 0:48:45# What's my name?
0:48:45 > 0:48:47# Will you tell me, sweetie?
0:48:47 > 0:48:49# You're put it right
0:48:49 > 0:48:51# Woo-hoo-hoo!
0:48:51 > 0:48:52# Woooo-hooo!
0:48:53 > 0:48:55# Ooooh!
0:48:55 > 0:48:56# Yeah!
0:48:56 > 0:48:58# All right!
0:48:58 > 0:49:00# Now tell me, honey
0:49:00 > 0:49:02# What's my name?
0:49:02 > 0:49:04# What's my name? #
0:49:12 > 0:49:16CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:49:21 > 0:49:26Brian was this very talented, unusual guy who played all these things,
0:49:26 > 0:49:29which gave what we did a flavour.
0:49:29 > 0:49:32But his involvement in the band dwindled.
0:49:32 > 0:49:35Keith and I took drugs,
0:49:35 > 0:49:40but Brian took too many drugs of the wrong kind and he wasn't functioning as a musician.
0:49:40 > 0:49:45I don't think he was that interested in contributing to the Rolling Stones any more.
0:49:47 > 0:49:49We didn't even expect him to be there.
0:49:49 > 0:49:54If he turned up, we'd find something for him to do, you know.
0:49:54 > 0:49:59I'd ask him, you know, "What do you think about this? Do you want to put something over this?"
0:49:59 > 0:50:05But, er... No, by then he was already in bye-bye land.
0:50:05 > 0:50:10You certainly didn't know if he was going to turn up and what state he was going to be.
0:50:10 > 0:50:15And then, what was he going to be able to do in that state? What job could you give him?
0:50:15 > 0:50:19Then, one time, when we sat around on the floor, we played in a circle,
0:50:19 > 0:50:21playing No Expectations.
0:50:21 > 0:50:26He picked up the guitar and played very pretty lines on it, which you can hear on the record.
0:50:26 > 0:50:27Eight.
0:50:27 > 0:50:32MELLOW GUITAR STRUMS
0:50:32 > 0:50:37BRIAN'S BOTTLENECK GUITAR JOINS IN
0:50:40 > 0:50:44And that was the last thing I remember him doing
0:50:44 > 0:50:48that was Brian, or the Brian that could contribute something
0:50:48 > 0:50:50very pretty and sensitive.
0:50:50 > 0:50:53And it made the record sound wonderful.
0:51:03 > 0:51:07# Take me to the station
0:51:07 > 0:51:13# And put me on a plane
0:51:13 > 0:51:18# I've got no expectations
0:51:18 > 0:51:21# To pass
0:51:21 > 0:51:24# Through here
0:51:24 > 0:51:25# Again... #
0:51:25 > 0:51:28My ultimate aim in life was never to be a pop star.
0:51:28 > 0:51:31I enjoy it...
0:51:31 > 0:51:33Er, with reservations.
0:51:33 > 0:51:36But, erm, I'm not really sort of satisfied,
0:51:36 > 0:51:39either artistically or personally.
0:51:39 > 0:51:42# Now I am so poor
0:51:42 > 0:51:48# But never in my sweet short life
0:51:48 > 0:51:50# Have I
0:51:50 > 0:51:53# Been so sad
0:51:53 > 0:51:56# Before... #
0:51:56 > 0:51:58Let's face it...
0:51:58 > 0:52:02The future as a Rolling Stone is very uncertain.
0:52:07 > 0:52:11'I remember Mick and Keith saying, "We can't go on like this.
0:52:11 > 0:52:15'"We need another guy." And we did need somebody else.
0:52:16 > 0:52:20'Do you remember what happened that day when you went over there?
0:52:20 > 0:52:21'No, I can't remember.
0:52:21 > 0:52:24'But I remember...
0:52:24 > 0:52:26'It wasn't very nice.'
0:52:27 > 0:52:30CHOIR: # I saw her today
0:52:30 > 0:52:33# At a reception... #
0:52:33 > 0:52:36It was a very, very difficult decision to make.
0:52:36 > 0:52:41This is someone that you've spent the beginning of the band with.
0:52:41 > 0:52:44And, I mean, it was horrible.
0:52:46 > 0:52:50We said to Brian that this isn't working out.
0:52:50 > 0:52:52And he sort of said, "Yes, it isn't."
0:52:52 > 0:52:55And it was very sad.
0:52:56 > 0:52:59And it was... I felt awful afterwards, I remember that.
0:52:59 > 0:53:02I felt really terrible.
0:53:04 > 0:53:08He was the author of his own misfortunes, really.
0:53:08 > 0:53:12But when you look back on it now, you think, "Surely, we could have done something?"
0:53:12 > 0:53:15And, you know, something more than just that.
0:53:15 > 0:53:17# You get what you need... #
0:53:17 > 0:53:21MUSIC: "You Can't Always Get What You Want" by the Rolling Stones
0:53:28 > 0:53:33We were working in the studio with Jimmy Miller.
0:53:33 > 0:53:37And someone came in and said, "Brian's just died."
0:53:38 > 0:53:41Everybody just looked at each other and goes...
0:53:41 > 0:53:43"Finally."
0:53:45 > 0:53:50It was almost like it was bound to happen, one way or another.
0:53:51 > 0:53:54It was a horrible moment.
0:53:54 > 0:53:58I don't know how many months later that was from when we went down to see him.
0:53:58 > 0:54:00He died three weeks later.
0:54:00 > 0:54:01Fuck!
0:54:02 > 0:54:07NEWS REPORTER: 'About midnight, Jones went for a swim with his Swedish girlfriend, Anna Wohlin,
0:54:07 > 0:54:10'and another friend, Mr Frank Thorogood.
0:54:10 > 0:54:14'After a time, Mr Thorogood and the girl went back to the house.
0:54:14 > 0:54:18'When they returned, they saw Jones at the bottom of the pool and they pulled him out.'
0:54:18 > 0:54:23# You can't always get what you want
0:54:24 > 0:54:28# You can't always get what you want
0:54:29 > 0:54:34# You can't always get what you want
0:54:35 > 0:54:38# But if try you sometimes
0:54:38 > 0:54:40# You might find
0:54:40 > 0:54:43- # You get what you need - Ne-e-e-ed! #
0:54:43 > 0:54:46CHOIR HOLD THE NOTE
0:54:55 > 0:54:58No, it doesn't hit you straight away.
0:54:58 > 0:55:03I think my first reaction was, "Oh, Briano! For all of the things we've been through!"
0:55:03 > 0:55:05It's, er...
0:55:05 > 0:55:07You know, "You don't have to croak over it!"
0:55:07 > 0:55:09You know what I mean?
0:55:12 > 0:55:15- Was there a reason you didn't attend his funeral?- Yeah.
0:55:15 > 0:55:18It was going to be too much of a circus.
0:55:18 > 0:55:23And, anyway, I... I never went to my mother's funeral, or my father's.
0:55:23 > 0:55:26They didn't have one.
0:55:26 > 0:55:28We're like that, my family.
0:55:28 > 0:55:31My dad is now an oak tree. Put his ashes, you know...
0:55:31 > 0:55:36And there's an enormous oak tree growing and every year it gets a little bigger.
0:55:36 > 0:55:40And my mum, she said, "Don't make no fuss over me, boy!"
0:55:41 > 0:55:44"I promise I'll make no fuss, Mum."
0:55:47 > 0:55:49But Hyde Park was the funeral.
0:55:49 > 0:55:53And the bit about burying and the shovels and all of that,
0:55:53 > 0:55:57it's not that important to me. That was his funeral.
0:55:57 > 0:56:01The Hyde Park concert was two days after Brian died,
0:56:01 > 0:56:04in front of almost half a million people in London.
0:56:04 > 0:56:07The concert had become in his memory,
0:56:07 > 0:56:10when it, obviously, hadn't been planned like that.
0:56:10 > 0:56:12But it had assumed that feeling.
0:56:12 > 0:56:15That morning of the concert,
0:56:15 > 0:56:19they all met in my suite.
0:56:19 > 0:56:22Mick was in the corner and he was in tears.
0:56:23 > 0:56:24I said, "Mick...
0:56:24 > 0:56:28"You've got to just toughen up and move on.
0:56:28 > 0:56:30"That's all you do. That's all we can do.
0:56:30 > 0:56:33"We just move on and do what we planned to do."
0:56:48 > 0:56:51- COCKNEY LAD:- The Stones are real-life people, not like The Beatles,
0:56:51 > 0:56:54with these seven days in bed and they're true to life.
0:56:54 > 0:56:59They're totally anti-establishment and everybody in the establishment has always bugged the Stones.
0:56:59 > 0:57:01And people have that feeling for them.
0:57:01 > 0:57:05What do you make of all this? As a member of the elder generation,
0:57:05 > 0:57:07do you think it's out of place here?
0:57:07 > 0:57:10Er... Of course, in a way, yes.
0:57:10 > 0:57:11Of course!
0:57:12 > 0:57:16What about your wife? What do you make of this, madam?
0:57:16 > 0:57:18- That's not my wife. - It's not your wife? I'm very sorry!
0:57:18 > 0:57:21And you see Hyde Park covered in people.
0:57:21 > 0:57:24And you know the normal view, you know, grass.
0:57:24 > 0:57:27HE LAUGHS
0:57:27 > 0:57:32And we hadn't been on stage for a year or so, you know, and it was like, er...
0:57:32 > 0:57:34Talk about going...
0:57:35 > 0:57:37..into the deep end!
0:57:37 > 0:57:40You know, "Oh, let's try a club or two first!"
0:57:40 > 0:57:43No! Boom! Hyde Park. Half a million.
0:57:43 > 0:57:48And, er... But I think it was a good baptism of fire for Mick Taylor.
0:57:48 > 0:57:51HE LAUGHS RASPINGLY
0:57:57 > 0:58:00CROWD CHEERS WILDLY
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