0:00:06 > 0:00:14This programme contains some strong language and some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.
0:00:14 > 0:00:18You might be able to soundcheck, yeah.
0:00:18 > 0:00:20Yeah.
0:00:20 > 0:00:21One, two. One, two, one, two.
0:00:23 > 0:00:27One, two. One, two. One, two. Hello, hello, hello. Hello, hello.
0:00:27 > 0:00:28OK. I think we're good.
0:00:31 > 0:00:36So, before we start, I just want to ask you, how's your memory?
0:00:36 > 0:00:38It's pretty good in some places,
0:00:38 > 0:00:41and absolutely and completely non-existent on others.
0:00:41 > 0:00:43I can remember some things but not other things.
0:00:43 > 0:00:45But then, it's written down, usually, somewhere.
0:00:45 > 0:00:50What do I tell you? I can't remember much of it, to be honest!
0:00:50 > 0:00:52Everybody has selective memories, you know.
0:00:52 > 0:00:55And in the end, I just think, oh - what the hell!
0:00:55 > 0:00:57You know, I say that old adage -
0:00:57 > 0:00:59never let the truth spoil a good story.
0:00:59 > 0:01:04With me, we cover a lot of ground, and it'll just be natural, you know.
0:01:04 > 0:01:07- Whatever happens. Have you got a light?- Yes, sure.- Oh, I got one.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09LIGHTER
0:01:09 > 0:01:11I don't know whether it's going to demystify anything,
0:01:11 > 0:01:15and I suppose it's not going to be a glorification either.
0:01:15 > 0:01:17Above all, it should be entertaining.
0:01:17 > 0:01:20It should be fun, because that's what the band was.
0:01:20 > 0:01:25- I'm amazed by it myself, I mean it's just... - LAUGHS
0:01:25 > 0:01:27It's almost a fairy story, you know?
0:01:30 > 0:01:34John Lennon once said the Rolling Stones would break up
0:01:34 > 0:01:36over Brian Jones's dead body.
0:01:36 > 0:01:39What d'you think it is about the Stones that enabled them
0:01:39 > 0:01:40to stay together?
0:01:41 > 0:01:47I think basically it was their decision to start touring again.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50Because before I joined the group, although they'd been making records,
0:01:50 > 0:01:55they hadn't really played before the public for nearly two years.
0:01:55 > 0:01:57So in a sense, when I joined the group,
0:01:57 > 0:02:00it was virtually a new group.
0:02:00 > 0:02:03MUSIC: "Honky Tonk Women" by The Rolling Stones
0:02:07 > 0:02:12# I met a gin soaked, bar-room queen in Memphis
0:02:15 > 0:02:21# She tried to take me upstairs for a ride ... #
0:02:21 > 0:02:24I was 20, almost 21.
0:02:24 > 0:02:28I'd just finished a six-week American tour with John Mayall.
0:02:28 > 0:02:30I got a phone call from Mick
0:02:30 > 0:02:33saying the Stones need a replacement for Brian.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36And so I became part of the band.
0:02:40 > 0:02:45# Honky tonk women
0:02:47 > 0:02:52# Gimme, gimme, gimme the honky-tonk blues ... #
0:02:55 > 0:02:59We were playing in stadiums that were full.
0:02:59 > 0:03:01You'd glance back over the amplifiers
0:03:01 > 0:03:04and you'd see the limousines bouncing.
0:03:04 > 0:03:07You know, because the energy in the stadium was electric.
0:03:09 > 0:03:15To me, the real interest in playing guitar is to play guitar with another guy.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17Two guitars together, if you get it right,
0:03:17 > 0:03:20it can become like an orchestra.
0:03:21 > 0:03:25And Mick Taylor is a virtuoso.
0:03:25 > 0:03:30# Honky tonk women
0:03:33 > 0:03:37# Gimme, gimme, gimme the honky tonk blues... #
0:03:40 > 0:03:42APPLAUSE
0:03:43 > 0:03:44Woo!
0:03:46 > 0:03:49Oh, yeah!
0:03:49 > 0:03:51How you finding it?
0:03:51 > 0:03:54I've been following the Stones ever since they started.
0:03:54 > 0:03:58- How old were you then?- Thirteen. - D'you have tickets?- Yes.
0:03:58 > 0:04:01There's a rumour that Mick Jagger
0:04:01 > 0:04:03is supposed to come out in his birthday suit.
0:04:03 > 0:04:06- Are you expecting that? - I hope he does!
0:04:07 > 0:04:09- You won't be shocked?- Of course not!
0:04:09 > 0:04:13# You got to move, you got to move
0:04:16 > 0:04:21# You got to move, child, you got to move
0:04:21 > 0:04:27# Oh, when the Lord gets ready
0:04:27 > 0:04:30# You gotta move
0:04:30 > 0:04:35# You may be high, you may be low
0:04:36 > 0:04:42# You may be rich, child You may be poor
0:04:42 > 0:04:50# But when the Lord gets ready, you gotta move
0:04:50 > 0:04:51All right!
0:04:53 > 0:04:57A the end of the '69 tour we went to Muscle Shoals and we cut
0:04:57 > 0:05:03Wild Horses, Brown Sugar and You Gotta Move, which are great tracks.
0:05:03 > 0:05:09JAGGER HUMS MELODY
0:05:11 > 0:05:15During those recording sessions or just before,
0:05:15 > 0:05:18somebody must have put it to somebody in the Stones organisation
0:05:18 > 0:05:21that we went to Altamont to do a free concert.
0:05:24 > 0:05:27# You got de blues! #
0:05:27 > 0:05:30It was never planned to be part of the 1969 tour.
0:05:34 > 0:05:36It was really just a throwaway.
0:05:36 > 0:05:38You know, a lot of these free shows were going on and we said,
0:05:38 > 0:05:42"Well, you know, why don't we do one?"
0:05:42 > 0:05:44I read in one of the papers that you'd be giving a free concert
0:05:44 > 0:05:46in San Francisco.
0:05:46 > 0:05:51We are doing a free concert in San Francisco on December 6th.
0:05:52 > 0:05:57It's creating a sort of microcosmic society which sets an example
0:05:57 > 0:06:01to the rest of America as to how one can behave in nice gatherings.
0:06:01 > 0:06:05Your mind is not really on that gig so we'll just get it together,
0:06:05 > 0:06:09and when they've got it together, we'll go there and do it. Simple as that.
0:06:09 > 0:06:14Just a quick question. You were at Woodstock and you've now been up to Altamont, right last night.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16How does it stack up? D'you have the room?
0:06:16 > 0:06:18- I think we have the room, sure. - Is this going to be Woodstock West?
0:06:18 > 0:06:22Well, it's going to be San Francisco.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25You know, we were doing an arena tour
0:06:25 > 0:06:29and jumped off the edge into free concerts in empty hills.
0:06:29 > 0:06:30HELICOPTER ROTORS
0:06:40 > 0:06:42EXCITED CROWD
0:06:44 > 0:06:46Come on, Mick!
0:06:48 > 0:06:51They hit Mick! Somebody hit him!
0:06:56 > 0:06:59MAN SOBS
0:06:59 > 0:07:06There are a number of people on and around this stage who should not be here.
0:07:06 > 0:07:07No!
0:07:07 > 0:07:10I wanna see Mick Jagger, God damn!
0:07:12 > 0:07:15The whole thing was out of control.
0:07:15 > 0:07:20I mean, all normality and control had gone. There was no... nothing.
0:07:31 > 0:07:34The Hell's Angels were the people doing the security.
0:07:34 > 0:07:38So we thought, if that's the way they do things in San Francisco,
0:07:38 > 0:07:41it was very hippy-dippy...
0:07:41 > 0:07:43thing.
0:07:43 > 0:07:46Except these were actual proper Hell's Angels.
0:07:48 > 0:07:52It was a bit like asking the Nazi party to sort out
0:07:52 > 0:07:54the front of the auditorium.
0:07:56 > 0:07:59When I got a bad vibe about it,
0:07:59 > 0:08:02when I saw the condition of the Angels.
0:08:05 > 0:08:08Now I can tell, these guys are on acid and Ripple wine.
0:08:09 > 0:08:13And they're - already in the early afternoon,
0:08:13 > 0:08:15they're starting to get antsy.
0:08:21 > 0:08:24These guys were out there, just looking for trouble.
0:08:26 > 0:08:30OK, hold it! Hold it!
0:08:32 > 0:08:34You know what's happening?
0:08:36 > 0:08:40I thought, uh-oh! This is going to get ugly tonight.
0:08:43 > 0:08:44And it did.
0:08:46 > 0:08:50CROWD CHEERING
0:08:58 > 0:09:00Oh, babies!
0:09:03 > 0:09:04There's so many of you!
0:09:06 > 0:09:09Just be cool down the front there. Don't push around.
0:09:12 > 0:09:16Just keep still and keep together.
0:09:18 > 0:09:19Oh, yeah!
0:09:19 > 0:09:22MUSIC: "Sympathy For The Devil" by The Rolling Stones
0:09:28 > 0:09:31# Please allow me to introduce myself
0:09:31 > 0:09:35# I'm a man of wealth and taste
0:09:37 > 0:09:40# I've been around for a long, long year
0:09:40 > 0:09:44# Stole many a man's soul and faith
0:09:48 > 0:09:52# Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name
0:09:53 > 0:09:55# Oh yeah
0:09:55 > 0:10:01# But what is puzzling y'all Is the nature of my game. #
0:10:01 > 0:10:04Ah, you can get down with it now!
0:10:18 > 0:10:19MUSIC FADES
0:10:35 > 0:10:36MUSIC AT FULL VOLUME
0:10:40 > 0:10:44CROWD NOISE
0:10:47 > 0:10:48CROWD NOISE FADES
0:10:50 > 0:10:54We were scared. I mean, it was scary.
0:10:54 > 0:10:57These people were crazy, and they were like standing next to you,
0:10:57 > 0:11:00and we didn't know to control it, stop it...
0:11:00 > 0:11:04it was completely out of our control. It was just a nightmare.
0:11:18 > 0:11:21Everybody was fucking scared, man.
0:11:21 > 0:11:26I'm sure it was far more frightening to the people in the audience than it was for us.
0:11:26 > 0:11:32Keith! Keith! Keith! Will you cool it, and I'll try and stop it.
0:11:32 > 0:11:35Hey, people! Everybody just cool out!
0:11:38 > 0:11:42What we should have done, just closed shop and gone home.
0:11:42 > 0:11:43But you couldn't.
0:11:43 > 0:11:46You got 300,000 people out there that've come, you know.
0:11:47 > 0:11:51Er, people! Who's fighting and what for?
0:11:51 > 0:11:54It's a hard line to call, you know.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57I mean if we'd walked off, I think there'd have been a riot.
0:11:57 > 0:11:59Why are we fighting?
0:11:59 > 0:12:03So I just did the best I fucking could under bad circumstances.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06Stop, cats! That guy there! If he doesn't stop it, man!
0:12:09 > 0:12:12Listen, either those cats cool it, man, or we don't play.
0:12:15 > 0:12:18It was just realising that you were out of control...
0:12:18 > 0:12:21the whole thing was out of control.
0:12:22 > 0:12:26If you're in any kind of arena or theatre, you can just leave,
0:12:26 > 0:12:28you know, off stage. There wasn't...
0:12:28 > 0:12:30you were very aware that you were surrounded,
0:12:30 > 0:12:33so you were very vulnerable. That was the feeling.
0:12:34 > 0:12:38That's why you shouldn't have been in this situation.
0:12:40 > 0:12:46- Sam, we need an ambulance.- And then, some bastard gets killed in it.
0:12:48 > 0:12:50SCREAM
0:13:07 > 0:13:10- What happened?- He pulled out a gun. - He did?- Yes.
0:13:10 > 0:13:12The Hell's Angels took the gun away from him.
0:13:12 > 0:13:15One of them has it now. He showed it to me.
0:13:15 > 0:13:19They proceeded to put him down on the ground and start kicking him.
0:13:19 > 0:13:22He has a couple of stab wounds in his back and one over his ear here.
0:13:22 > 0:13:26We tried to keep him alive and when we got here the doctor checked him out, and that's it.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28They pronounced him dead at 6.20.
0:13:42 > 0:13:44HELICOPTER ROTORS
0:13:57 > 0:14:00GENTLE ACOUSTIC GUITAR
0:14:27 > 0:14:31We were pretty beat up after Altamont.
0:14:34 > 0:14:38We were always thought of, after that, as dangerous.
0:14:39 > 0:14:42We weren't really dangerous, but that's the way they looked at it.
0:14:45 > 0:14:49We had to endure all this blood-letting
0:14:49 > 0:14:53and blame-throwing, so it wasn't a very good mood.
0:14:53 > 0:14:57We were in this maelstrom, daily.
0:14:59 > 0:15:02It was like being in a river, you know, that was flooded,
0:15:02 > 0:15:04and you were just being dragged all the way down this river.
0:15:06 > 0:15:08It's all a bit of a kaleidoscope.
0:15:10 > 0:15:12I was definitely on another planet at the time.
0:15:14 > 0:15:18And everybody's got a different way
0:15:18 > 0:15:20of dealing with...
0:15:20 > 0:15:22- and I didn't for a while. - LAUGHS
0:15:22 > 0:15:25I took to the stuff!
0:15:25 > 0:15:29As I say, I never had a problem with drugs - I just had a problem with cops!
0:15:30 > 0:15:33I'd been pushed up against my front door,
0:15:33 > 0:15:35by them beeping under the bushes.
0:15:35 > 0:15:37They were just harassing me really.
0:15:37 > 0:15:42There was a definite move on and it became obvious that
0:15:42 > 0:15:45we had to make a decision, "OK - we're moving!"
0:15:49 > 0:15:52Keith always says that he was chased out of England by the cops!
0:15:53 > 0:15:57He may believe that, but it's not actually true!
0:15:57 > 0:16:01But the real reason the band left was money.
0:16:01 > 0:16:04We all thought that our taxes had been paid.
0:16:04 > 0:16:09We discovered in 1971 that we all owed in the region of £100,000 each.
0:16:11 > 0:16:16Income tax was so high that to earn the money to pay back the tax,
0:16:16 > 0:16:20we decided that the best way of doing that was to leave the UK.
0:16:24 > 0:16:26You know, we got shipped to France.
0:16:29 > 0:16:32I think, in France, I felt a lifting of the weights
0:16:32 > 0:16:35which I didn't realise that was on me in England.
0:16:39 > 0:16:42We couldn't find a studio in the south of France,
0:16:42 > 0:16:46so eventually we rummaged, and I said, I've got an enormous basement.
0:16:46 > 0:16:51I'd love to live on the factory - saves going to the studio.
0:16:51 > 0:16:53It's great, just going downstairs.
0:16:56 > 0:16:58TAPE MACHINE REWINDS
0:16:58 > 0:17:00That whole period was incredibly intense
0:17:00 > 0:17:04because it was a new beginning for the band,
0:17:04 > 0:17:08and once we picked up our guitars, we were in our own world.
0:17:17 > 0:17:21It was a troglodyte existence down there.
0:17:21 > 0:17:269-10 at night until 7-8 in the morning, you know.
0:17:26 > 0:17:31The idea of playing a note before the sun went down was ludicrous!
0:17:31 > 0:17:33I mean, when you take Dracula time...!
0:17:33 > 0:17:38# Gimme a little drink from your lovin' cup ... #
0:17:40 > 0:17:43My kind of structure is a kind of loose structure,
0:17:43 > 0:17:47but when you have no structure, it's really bad.
0:17:47 > 0:17:50Recording in the South of France was like that because of all the drugs.
0:17:59 > 0:18:02The junk was there to help me do the music.
0:18:02 > 0:18:06It gave me a space that I probably wouldn't have found otherwise
0:18:06 > 0:18:08and I'd take anything if it would help me
0:18:08 > 0:18:11stay up long enough to finish this damn song!
0:18:11 > 0:18:16# I am nitty-gritty and my shirt's all torn
0:18:16 > 0:18:21# But I will love to spill the beans with you till dawn
0:18:24 > 0:18:30# And gimme a little drink from your loving cup. #
0:18:34 > 0:18:39All right! All right! Everybody say yeah.
0:18:39 > 0:18:41Wooh!
0:18:43 > 0:18:46There's a little bit of phasing in the tempo.
0:18:46 > 0:18:48You know, we would almost get to the point of recording a song,
0:18:48 > 0:18:53Keith would have to leave because he wanted another fix, or whatever the reason.
0:18:53 > 0:18:54It was a nightmare.
0:18:54 > 0:18:57Instead of working on a song for two hours,
0:18:57 > 0:18:59you worked on it for two fucking weeks!
0:19:03 > 0:19:09- You got the MC on there? - Yeah, I think it's ready now.
0:19:09 > 0:19:12It just becomes disorganised.
0:19:12 > 0:19:15You've got some recording engineers strung out,
0:19:15 > 0:19:17because they want to be strung out,
0:19:17 > 0:19:19because they think it's the thing to do.
0:19:19 > 0:19:23Which isn't the thing to do for a recording engineer, I can assure you!
0:19:26 > 0:19:31I thought it was quite amusing, a lot of it, people sort of...
0:19:31 > 0:19:34they hang around Keith, and they think they're Keith!
0:19:34 > 0:19:35It's ridiculous.
0:19:46 > 0:19:50- A good band always thrives when there's...- Adversity? - LAUGHS
0:19:50 > 0:19:54And no, probably by then,
0:19:54 > 0:19:58we felt very much like a sort of pirate nation to ourselves,
0:19:58 > 0:20:00and you'd dig in your heels
0:20:00 > 0:20:04and say, "We may go down, but we're not going down your way!"
0:20:06 > 0:20:09So you're kind of getting, the bulldog comes out in you, you know!
0:20:26 > 0:20:28Before the 1972 tour,
0:20:28 > 0:20:31there was a letter from the US State Department, basically saying
0:20:31 > 0:20:35that if there was any kind of fallout, we could be in trouble.
0:20:42 > 0:20:45They made a lot of threatening noises which creates
0:20:45 > 0:20:49this backs-to-the-wall, Winston Churchill kind of stuff.
0:20:49 > 0:20:51That's all very kind of galvanising,
0:20:51 > 0:20:54and breeds a nice team spirit.
0:20:54 > 0:20:57I think a lot of people were convinced that in some way,
0:20:57 > 0:21:00you and your music are an evil influence.
0:21:00 > 0:21:03That must be a challenge that you would take seriously
0:21:03 > 0:21:04and want to reply to.
0:21:04 > 0:21:07I don't take it seriously any more. I think we've won.
0:21:20 > 0:21:24- Were there any girls on that tour? - Girls?
0:21:24 > 0:21:27There were so many of them!
0:21:33 > 0:21:38- Hedonism was very much on the rise. - It was the hedonistic period.
0:21:47 > 0:21:51Any nature of restraint had been a bit pummelled.
0:21:51 > 0:21:53The idea of being restrained
0:21:53 > 0:21:58and disciplined was perhaps a kind of no-no.
0:22:03 > 0:22:08It's got its own film crew, it's got journalism, it's got its celebrities.
0:22:11 > 0:22:17It becomes more than just a tour. It becomes a grand event.
0:22:24 > 0:22:29And that also became the fashion of tours.
0:22:29 > 0:22:32Its rather ill-disciplined, hedonistic binge around America.
0:22:34 > 0:22:39Ladies and gentlemen - the Rolling Stones.
0:22:39 > 0:22:42APPLAUSE
0:22:48 > 0:22:51MUSIC: "Brown Sugar" by The Rolling Stones
0:23:12 > 0:23:17# Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
0:23:17 > 0:23:20# Sold in a market down in New Orleans
0:23:20 > 0:23:23# Scarred old slaver knows he's doing all right
0:23:23 > 0:23:27# You shoulda heard him just around midnight
0:23:29 > 0:23:32# Brown sugar, how come you taste so good?
0:23:36 > 0:23:41# Brown sugar, just like a young girl should ... #
0:23:41 > 0:23:43When we got together, something happened.
0:23:43 > 0:23:47Something magical happened, and no-one could ever copy that.
0:23:47 > 0:23:50# Drums beating, cold English blood runs hot ... #
0:23:50 > 0:23:52Every band follow the drummer.
0:23:52 > 0:23:56We don't follow Charlie - Charlie follows Keith.
0:23:56 > 0:24:00So the drums are very slightly behind Keith.
0:24:00 > 0:24:04It's only fractions of seconds, you know. Miniscule.
0:24:04 > 0:24:09And I tend to play ahead. It's got a sort of a wobble.
0:24:09 > 0:24:12And it's dangerous because it can all fall apart at any minute.
0:24:12 > 0:24:16# Just like a young girl should
0:24:16 > 0:24:19# I say yeah, yeah, yeah
0:24:19 > 0:24:21# How come you taste so good?
0:24:30 > 0:24:33APPLAUSE
0:24:37 > 0:24:42MUSIC: "Sweet Virginia" by The Rolling Stones
0:25:02 > 0:25:04We're talking about Rolling Stones, you know.
0:25:04 > 0:25:07It was an unstoppable momentum going on,
0:25:10 > 0:25:12and in a way, you were swept along with it.
0:25:13 > 0:25:17It's not as if you were particularly in control, or any of us.
0:25:22 > 0:25:27Couldn't stop, really, anytime, to self-doubt.
0:25:27 > 0:25:30Or second guessing.
0:25:30 > 0:25:34We were just going on instinct and doing what we wanted.
0:25:34 > 0:25:36Almost like a law unto ourselves.
0:25:37 > 0:25:43# Trying to stop the waves behind your eyeballs
0:25:43 > 0:25:47# Uh-huh, drop your reds... #
0:25:47 > 0:25:49What is a Rolling Stone?
0:25:52 > 0:25:54What is a Rolling Stone!
0:25:54 > 0:25:57Someone that's not settled. Like a pirate?
0:25:57 > 0:25:58Or a gypsy.
0:25:58 > 0:26:03Someone who likes to travel,
0:26:03 > 0:26:07voyage, adventurer.
0:26:09 > 0:26:11Yippee! Another concert.
0:26:13 > 0:26:14My mum's out there.
0:26:14 > 0:26:17I don't want no indecent gestures, you understand?
0:26:17 > 0:26:21None of that wiggly stuff out there in front of my mum.
0:26:21 > 0:26:22OK, Mrs Keys - this is for you!
0:26:22 > 0:26:29# ... shit right off your shoes. #
0:26:41 > 0:26:44- D'you know who he is?- I do.
0:26:45 > 0:26:48He's one of those hippy long-hairs, those hippy radicals.
0:26:52 > 0:26:55Really, all you wanted to do was play music.
0:26:55 > 0:26:57You're always trying to get it better,
0:26:57 > 0:27:00trying to get the band tighter.
0:27:00 > 0:27:03After a show, we'd be in a hotel room,
0:27:03 > 0:27:05knocking out songs for the next album or the next single.
0:27:05 > 0:27:08It was a continual day-by-day process.
0:27:23 > 0:27:26When you're working with another person,
0:27:26 > 0:27:28it's great to bounce things off.
0:27:28 > 0:27:31If you're really working well together, you feed off each
0:27:31 > 0:27:34other's ideas and build upon each other's ideas, so that you've
0:27:34 > 0:27:37got someone that takes your thing and takes it to another level.
0:27:39 > 0:27:41Writing songs is a great thing.
0:27:41 > 0:27:45It's like a jigsaw puzzle and a kaleidoscope put together,
0:27:45 > 0:27:48except it's all done through the ears.
0:27:48 > 0:27:49And on that, I would say Mick
0:27:49 > 0:27:52and I probably very much on the same groove.
0:28:04 > 0:28:07If I wanted to brew up the essence of Jagger and Richards together,
0:28:07 > 0:28:11I suppose it would be Midnight Rambler.
0:28:11 > 0:28:14Anybody else could have written any of our other songs, but I don't
0:28:14 > 0:28:19think anybody could have written Midnight Rambler except Mick and me.
0:28:19 > 0:28:22And nobody else would have thought of making an opera out of the blues!
0:28:22 > 0:28:24LAUGHS
0:28:27 > 0:28:31MUSIC: "Midnight Rambler" by the Rolling Stones
0:28:37 > 0:28:43# Talk about the midnight rambler Everybody got to go
0:28:43 > 0:28:46# Talk about the midnight rambler
0:28:46 > 0:28:50# Did you see him jump the garden door?
0:28:51 > 0:28:54# Sighin' down the wind so sadly
0:28:54 > 0:28:57# Listen and you hear him moan
0:28:57 > 0:29:00# Talking about the midnight rambler
0:29:00 > 0:29:02# Everybody got to go. #
0:30:00 > 0:30:01A-ooh!!
0:30:04 > 0:30:07I got... A-ooh!
0:30:10 > 0:30:13I got... A-ooh!
0:30:15 > 0:30:20Aaaaaaah-ooh!
0:30:24 > 0:30:27# Told you about it
0:30:27 > 0:30:30# Oh
0:30:33 > 0:30:39# Well, you heard about the Boston...
0:30:43 > 0:30:48# Honey, it's not one of those
0:30:50 > 0:30:56# Well, I'm just talking about the midnight...
0:31:00 > 0:31:04# Yeah, you see me shut the bedroom door
0:31:07 > 0:31:14# I'm called a hit-n-run raper in anger
0:31:14 > 0:31:19# Or just a knife-sharpened tippie-toe
0:31:22 > 0:31:27# Or just a shoot-'em-dead brain-bell jangler
0:31:31 > 0:31:36# Everybody gotta go
0:31:38 > 0:31:42# If you ever see the midnight rambler
0:31:48 > 0:31:50# Everybody got to go
0:32:11 > 0:32:15# Higher, higher, higher
0:32:17 > 0:32:21# Well, I'm talking about the midnight rambler
0:32:21 > 0:32:23# Yeah, everybody gotta go
0:32:24 > 0:32:27# Well, I'm talking about the midnight rambler
0:32:27 > 0:32:29# Did you see him jump your garden wall?
0:32:29 > 0:32:32# And if you ever catch the midnight rambler
0:32:32 > 0:32:36# He'll steal your mistress from under your nose
0:32:36 > 0:32:39# Go easy with your cold fandango
0:32:39 > 0:32:41# I'll stick my knife right down your throat. #
0:32:47 > 0:32:50Wooh! Yeah!
0:32:50 > 0:32:57CHEERING
0:33:08 > 0:33:11TRUMPET BLAST
0:33:15 > 0:33:17BACKGROUND CHATTER
0:33:23 > 0:33:25(You came all the way from...)
0:33:34 > 0:33:38When you unzip your suit, and put your jeans back on, or whatever,
0:33:38 > 0:33:39that's all finished with.
0:33:41 > 0:33:45I don't want to be my extrovert character all the time.
0:33:47 > 0:33:53ACOUSTIC GUITAR
0:33:53 > 0:33:56A lot of times when you're being interviewed, you don't want to
0:33:56 > 0:33:58talk about what they want to talk about.
0:33:58 > 0:34:00You kind of don't answer their question,
0:34:00 > 0:34:02and you kind of get rid of it.
0:34:02 > 0:34:06# Angie, Angie... #
0:34:06 > 0:34:09- Where we going, by the way? - I don't know!
0:34:09 > 0:34:12# When will those clouds all disappear? #
0:34:12 > 0:34:17There's a kind of protection against intrusion.
0:34:18 > 0:34:22What are you trying to protect?
0:34:22 > 0:34:26You're trying to protect your inner self, I think is the answer.
0:34:28 > 0:34:31'The Rolling Stones arrived at Sydney today
0:34:31 > 0:34:33'to begin their 1973 Australian tour.'
0:34:33 > 0:34:36# ..With no money in our coats... #
0:34:36 > 0:34:40You've been thrown into this - you start out and you're a blues player.
0:34:40 > 0:34:43And then suddenly this fame thing comes in,
0:34:43 > 0:34:48and everybody has to handle that in their own way.
0:34:48 > 0:34:50# Angie... #
0:34:52 > 0:34:54Charlie hates it.
0:34:54 > 0:34:57Charlie's perfect role would to be in the Rolling Stones
0:34:57 > 0:35:00except nobody gives a shit who you are!
0:35:00 > 0:35:01# Angie... #
0:35:01 > 0:35:05Are you still enjoying playing in the group as much as you used to
0:35:05 > 0:35:07do about 7-8 years ago?
0:35:07 > 0:35:11Yes, the same, really.
0:35:11 > 0:35:15Good, and the plans for the next... future.
0:35:15 > 0:35:20- Can you tell us something about that?- The next future... I dunno...
0:35:21 > 0:35:23Carry on making records, I suppose.
0:35:25 > 0:35:27Try do do...
0:35:27 > 0:35:29And things. I don't know.
0:35:29 > 0:35:32'I think the Rolling Stones are great.
0:35:33 > 0:35:36'But I kind of don't see me in it, somehow!
0:35:38 > 0:35:41'I've never really lived or admired that world anyway,
0:35:41 > 0:35:43'so I don't really believe it.
0:35:47 > 0:35:51'But I'm very much a loner. And always have been.'
0:35:53 > 0:35:57- 'How do you see yourself?'- 'That's the most difficult thing of all.
0:35:57 > 0:36:00'That's what takes you your whole life to find out. What you are.
0:36:00 > 0:36:03'But I don't know.'
0:36:03 > 0:36:06- But you're not this image that people have of you. - I don't know what that is.
0:36:06 > 0:36:10There's a lot of things that could go up to make one person's
0:36:10 > 0:36:13personality, so that you can be everything.
0:36:21 > 0:36:27# Woh, Angie, don't you weep all your kisses still taste sweet
0:36:30 > 0:36:34# I hate that sadness in your eyes... #
0:36:35 > 0:36:40- How do you keep yourself grounded? - I don't know. I didn't for a while.
0:36:41 > 0:36:48Heroin can be a...a sort of state of suspended animation, really.
0:36:49 > 0:36:52Keith just got busted all the time.
0:36:52 > 0:36:54And he got away with it all the time,
0:36:54 > 0:36:57that was the amazing thing, he ended up with just small fines
0:36:57 > 0:37:00and warnings, and he just went through his life like that.
0:37:02 > 0:37:05You were always worried, because you if Keith gets busted,
0:37:05 > 0:37:08we just thought that was the end of the band, really.
0:37:08 > 0:37:12He'd drive off the road regularly. He should never have been driving.
0:37:12 > 0:37:15I was always worried that there was going to be a call when Keith
0:37:15 > 0:37:18had driven off the road and that was the end of Keith, you know.
0:37:18 > 0:37:22Keith, there is in England a kind of underground Top 10,
0:37:22 > 0:37:25about people who are expected to die shortly.
0:37:25 > 0:37:27Am I on the list?
0:37:27 > 0:37:31- Yes, you're technically number one position in there.- Really? OK.
0:37:31 > 0:37:33I'll let you know.
0:37:35 > 0:37:38Mick Taylor, he said to me then, "I'm thinking of leaving".
0:37:40 > 0:37:42And then of course he deteriorated
0:37:42 > 0:37:46because he started to get into drugs and all that sort of shit.
0:37:48 > 0:37:51I always thought he left because he got bored.
0:37:52 > 0:37:55I thought he was fed up with playing with us.
0:37:56 > 0:37:58I'd no idea why he'd left the band.
0:37:58 > 0:38:02I thought it was the stupidest idea I'd ever heard.
0:38:02 > 0:38:04And he never really told me the reason.
0:38:06 > 0:38:09- Why on earth would you leave the Rolling Stones?- I don't know.
0:38:09 > 0:38:15Maybe I thought that I would be able to protect my family from...
0:38:15 > 0:38:17not Keith's orbit, but drugs.
0:38:18 > 0:38:22Because I slowly became addicted to heroin.
0:38:22 > 0:38:25There comes apoint where you have to choose between one or the other,
0:38:25 > 0:38:27or you die. And I...
0:38:29 > 0:38:31I've survived.
0:38:33 > 0:38:35Mick Taylor leaving was the curve ball
0:38:35 > 0:38:38because that was a really good band,
0:38:38 > 0:38:42and it had this balance between Keith and Mick Taylor.
0:38:42 > 0:38:45In a way I was surprised, but it's always a drag.
0:38:47 > 0:38:49I spent years putting this line-up together,
0:38:49 > 0:38:52and just as I was getting it right...
0:38:52 > 0:38:54There's another part of me that...
0:38:54 > 0:38:57it seemed like it was somehow inevitable.
0:39:01 > 0:39:03I was there at Robert Stigwood's party,
0:39:03 > 0:39:06sitting between Mick Taylor and Mick Jagger when Taylor
0:39:06 > 0:39:09leaned across and said to Jagger, "I'm leaving the band."
0:39:09 > 0:39:11And Mick went, "What! Is he serious?"
0:39:11 > 0:39:16I said, "I think he is, Mick!" So Mick Taylor said, "Yes, I am."
0:39:16 > 0:39:19And he got up and walked out. And Mick said, "Will you join?"
0:39:19 > 0:39:24And I said, "Yes, of course," in a New York minute!
0:39:24 > 0:39:28MUSIC: "Hey Negrita" by The Rolling Stones
0:39:39 > 0:39:46# I said hey Negrita, hey now
0:39:46 > 0:39:50# Move your body, move your mouth... #
0:39:51 > 0:39:55Ronnie was like a breath of fresh air in a way.
0:39:55 > 0:39:59His personality, was... I mean, he's such a barrel of laughs.
0:40:01 > 0:40:02He fitted like a glove.
0:40:02 > 0:40:05Ronnie became the link between the two strong egos
0:40:05 > 0:40:06and the two light egos.
0:40:06 > 0:40:10- And it worked great. - Tune-up room session.
0:40:13 > 0:40:15Fitting into their mould was easy for me.
0:40:17 > 0:40:23I found the compatibility with playing, the whole lifestyle,
0:40:23 > 0:40:28the humour, the camaraderie, you know, it was like "I'm home!"
0:40:28 > 0:40:33We were transitioning into a more of a kind of not so dangerous...
0:40:33 > 0:40:38the feeling was that you were having a good time. It was more kind of fun.
0:40:38 > 0:40:41But it was more colourful and produced,
0:40:41 > 0:40:44and wasn't supposed to be taken so seriously,
0:40:44 > 0:40:46and I think it was very much the Ronnie thing.
0:40:46 > 0:40:48It's in the blood, you see.
0:40:48 > 0:40:55It all comes down to those two hours onstage. They're the reward.
0:40:55 > 0:41:00He's a great guitar player and also very sympathetic.
0:41:00 > 0:41:02Ronnie was somebody I'd party with as well.
0:41:02 > 0:41:06- I mean, he was well-versed in every manner. - LAUGHS
0:41:08 > 0:41:11# My sweet ass
0:41:11 > 0:41:13# Hey, Negrita
0:41:17 > 0:41:19'Nearly one million applications have been received
0:41:19 > 0:41:22'for their 13 British concerts alone.
0:41:22 > 0:41:24'But most will be out of luck.
0:41:24 > 0:41:28'Only 80,000 seats are available for what will be the Stones'
0:41:28 > 0:41:30'first tour of Britain in three years.'
0:41:30 > 0:41:34- Oh, man! The Rolling Stones are just it, you know.- What do you mean?
0:41:36 > 0:41:38They're the greatest rock & roll band in the world!
0:41:38 > 0:41:42- How long have you been here? - Since Friday morning, about 8am.
0:41:42 > 0:41:44How do you eat?
0:41:44 > 0:41:46We take a walk to the liquor store, buy a loaf of bread,
0:41:46 > 0:41:48some baloney and cheese.
0:41:48 > 0:41:51Then we put it all together and eat it.
0:41:53 > 0:41:56We lived and breathed the songs, Keith and I.
0:41:56 > 0:42:01Morning, noon and night, and when we slept, which was very rare.
0:42:01 > 0:42:02Very rare!
0:42:04 > 0:42:07And we'd live and breathe other influences,
0:42:07 > 0:42:09whether it'd be Mozart, or Marley.
0:42:18 > 0:42:22The whirlwind, the hurricane, the tornado of just been caught
0:42:22 > 0:42:24up in the band and the highs of the dope and the drink
0:42:24 > 0:42:28- my feet never really touched the ground for many years.
0:42:54 > 0:42:59You felt almost pretty much immune to exterior hassles, you know.
0:43:04 > 0:43:06It seems perilous now.
0:43:06 > 0:43:11At the time, it was like, "Come on, throw it at us.
0:43:11 > 0:43:13"Let's see what you've got."
0:43:18 > 0:43:23And you can get used to that feeling of invulnerableness,
0:43:23 > 0:43:25even though it's completely not true.
0:43:30 > 0:43:35# You gotta move You gotta move... #
0:43:37 > 0:43:45He was ridiculous. Fancy coming into Canada with all that heroin.
0:43:45 > 0:43:53# When the Lord gets ready You gotta go... #
0:43:54 > 0:43:57'Police found one ounce of heroin...'
0:43:57 > 0:44:02'Lead guitarist Keith Richard was charged with possession of heroin...'
0:44:02 > 0:44:08'If convicted, he faces a maximum sentence of life for trafficking.'
0:44:10 > 0:44:21# When the Lord gets ready You gotta go... #
0:44:23 > 0:44:27It got a bit close, I thought, then - the going to prison bit, or being
0:44:27 > 0:44:31locked up. Perhaps Keith played that role really too well, you know.
0:44:34 > 0:44:35# Oh, oh woh-oh-oh
0:44:37 > 0:44:40# Oh, oh woh-oh-oh
0:44:41 > 0:44:43# Yeah, yeah
0:44:45 > 0:44:47# You gotta go
0:44:47 > 0:44:52It was a realisation in Canada that I was actually jeopardising
0:44:52 > 0:44:54the band, you know.
0:44:54 > 0:44:57If they were going to put me away, it was bye-bye.
0:44:57 > 0:45:00That's why I stopped. That's it. The experiment...
0:45:00 > 0:45:03we're pulling the plug on this once and for all.
0:45:03 > 0:45:08It was a end-of-chapter there, and turn the page.
0:45:08 > 0:45:11'Richards is taking psychiatric treatment to end his addiction,
0:45:11 > 0:45:14'and continue as a musician.
0:45:14 > 0:45:17'Judge Lloyd Graburn said Richard's effort to remove himself from
0:45:17 > 0:45:21'the drug culture was an example for others, so he was put on probation
0:45:21 > 0:45:25'for a year and ordered to continue psychiatric treatment as part
0:45:25 > 0:45:27'of his probation, he would have to give
0:45:27 > 0:45:31'a concert at the Canadian Institute for the Blind.'
0:45:33 > 0:45:39Usually, it's the guy in the black hat that gets killed at the end,
0:45:39 > 0:45:42but not this time, brother. Not this time.
0:45:42 > 0:45:45MUSIC: "Miss You" by the Rolling Stones
0:45:49 > 0:45:51In a way, the Stones stayed...
0:45:51 > 0:45:55because one thing that was more important than smack was the band.
0:45:55 > 0:45:59# I've been holding out so long I've been sleeping all alone
0:45:59 > 0:46:03# Lord I miss you
0:46:04 > 0:46:08# I've been hanging' on so long I've been sleeping all alone
0:46:08 > 0:46:11# Lord I miss you something I have to say
0:46:12 > 0:46:17# Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh
0:46:17 > 0:46:19# ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh, ooh ooh ooh ooh... #
0:46:19 > 0:46:22I was quite relieved that he'd cleaned up some.
0:46:22 > 0:46:26I mean, we did things quicker. I think we were a bit more focussed.
0:46:26 > 0:46:30There was more effort and more energy.
0:46:35 > 0:46:37It was a renewal.
0:46:37 > 0:46:39We'd come through all this shit and all that,
0:46:39 > 0:46:41and we were brothers-in-arms.
0:46:41 > 0:46:45After all, we'd always said, whether we liked it or not, the band comes first.
0:46:45 > 0:46:48# Yeah, I've been haunted in my sleep
0:46:48 > 0:46:50# You've been starring in my dreams Lord I miss you
0:46:50 > 0:46:53'Their popularity's never been greater and with a following
0:46:53 > 0:46:56'like this, the Stones don't even have to advertise.'
0:46:56 > 0:46:59# Waiting on your call, and the phone rings... #
0:46:59 > 0:47:02You love the Rolling Stones more than you love God!
0:47:02 > 0:47:04# Hey, what's the matter man?
0:47:04 > 0:47:06# We're going to come around at twelve
0:47:06 > 0:47:10# With some Puerto Rican girls that are dying to meet you
0:47:10 > 0:47:13# We're going to bring a case of wine
0:47:13 > 0:47:16# You know, mess and fool around like we used to
0:47:16 > 0:47:18The Rolling Stones have done it again.
0:47:18 > 0:47:21'100,000 fans watched Mick Jagger prance
0:47:21 > 0:47:23'and dance as he has for nearly 20 years.'
0:47:23 > 0:47:27They are starting a tour which will take them to 21 cities
0:47:27 > 0:47:30to be seen by a million and a half adoring fans.
0:47:30 > 0:47:33The anti-heroes of the '60s are back on the road for their biggest tour ever.
0:47:39 > 0:47:42The Rolling Stones had gone from being the band
0:47:42 > 0:47:45that everyone hated to the band that everyone loved.
0:47:45 > 0:47:49We'd gone from unacceptable to totally acceptable.
0:47:49 > 0:47:51Everything had changed.
0:47:51 > 0:47:55We became a kind of institution and we hadn't even got to be 40 yet!
0:47:58 > 0:48:03# Tell me, where you been so long?
0:48:05 > 0:48:07# Come on! Come on!
0:48:09 > 0:48:13Cats have nine lives, and we seem to have got
0:48:13 > 0:48:16through about 20 fucking lives so far! I don't know how we do it.
0:48:18 > 0:48:22# People ask me what's the matter with you?
0:48:22 > 0:48:27# Sometimes Sometimes I just say to myself...
0:48:27 > 0:48:31# You know what I'm saying?
0:48:31 > 0:48:34# Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh
0:48:34 > 0:48:36# Ooh ooh ooh ooh
0:48:39 > 0:48:43We have never been as high as this. We have never been as successful.
0:48:43 > 0:48:45We've done it.
0:48:45 > 0:48:49# I guess I'm lying to myself It's just you and no-one else
0:48:49 > 0:48:53# Lord I won't miss you baby
0:48:53 > 0:48:56# I miss you child, I miss you child
0:49:03 > 0:49:05# I miss you baby
0:49:07 > 0:49:13# I, I, I... #
0:49:13 > 0:49:15There's instant fucking astonishment.
0:49:15 > 0:49:19- This is a simple rule, that it don't pay! - LAUGHS
0:49:36 > 0:49:37I miss you!
0:49:40 > 0:49:44You had this kind of 'fuck the world,
0:49:44 > 0:49:45you can do anything' attitude.
0:49:45 > 0:49:48For a moment that was definitely there.
0:49:48 > 0:49:51You felt you were riding on the wave, and all that.
0:49:51 > 0:49:54But you can't be young for ever.
0:50:00 > 0:50:06# Yeah, heard the music drumming all down the line
0:50:09 > 0:50:14# Yeah, hear the motors humming
0:50:14 > 0:50:17# Right down the line
0:50:18 > 0:50:23# Yeah, hear the women working
0:50:23 > 0:50:26# Right down the line
0:50:27 > 0:50:30# All down the line
0:50:30 > 0:50:34# We'll be watching out for trouble, yes
0:50:34 > 0:50:36# All down the line
0:50:36 > 0:50:39# We're gonna keep the motor running, yeah
0:50:40 > 0:50:41# All down the line
0:50:41 > 0:50:44# I need a shot of salvation
0:50:44 > 0:50:47# Once in a while
0:50:48 > 0:50:49# Hear the whistle blowing
0:50:51 > 0:50:53# Hear it for a thousand miles
0:51:11 > 0:51:13# All down the line
0:51:13 > 0:51:15# We're gonna keep the motor running, yes
0:51:18 > 0:51:19# All down the line
0:51:19 > 0:51:23# We're gonna bust another bottle, yes
0:51:23 > 0:51:24# All down the line
0:51:24 > 0:51:27# You can't say yes and you can't say no
0:51:27 > 0:51:30# Just be right there when the whistle blows
0:51:30 > 0:51:34# I need a sanctified mind to help me right now
0:51:46 > 0:51:50# Won't you be my little baby for a while?
0:51:52 > 0:51:57# Won't you be my little baby for a while?
0:51:58 > 0:52:02# Won't you be my little baby for a while? #
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