0:00:43 > 0:00:46What do you think about these emotions?
0:00:46 > 0:00:48I can really get angry.
0:00:48 > 0:00:49I feel all tense,
0:00:49 > 0:00:53and if I just get hold of the one who's taken my crisps,
0:00:53 > 0:01:00I, um... I would... I'd feel like...doing something bad to him.
0:01:00 > 0:01:02What do you do when you get in a temper?
0:01:02 > 0:01:05Well, if I'm in the dining room and I'm getting angry,
0:01:05 > 0:01:08I just go out of the door, close the door
0:01:08 > 0:01:10and make funny faces at the door.
0:01:11 > 0:01:13What makes you angry in life?
0:01:15 > 0:01:18Well, all sorts of things, really.
0:01:18 > 0:01:19Um...
0:01:20 > 0:01:24Well, sometimes people get aggravating, you know?
0:01:24 > 0:01:26When do they get aggravating?
0:01:26 > 0:01:29Well, you know, occasionally my brother gets
0:01:29 > 0:01:31a bit aggravating, you know?
0:01:31 > 0:01:33He's 18 years old now.
0:01:33 > 0:01:36And what does he do to you?
0:01:36 > 0:01:38Well, you know, he's got a girlfriend
0:01:38 > 0:01:42so he gets a bit sort of highered up when I go out with her for a bit.
0:01:42 > 0:01:44How do you mean?
0:01:44 > 0:01:46Well, he gets a bit...
0:01:46 > 0:01:48You know, he likes being with her all the time,
0:01:48 > 0:01:51so while he goes upstairs and gets changed,
0:01:51 > 0:01:54I have a little chat with Linda.
0:01:54 > 0:01:58Do you? What does your brother say about that?
0:01:58 > 0:02:03Well, that's what he gets a bit, you know, aggravating with, you know?
0:02:03 > 0:02:06I bet he does. What does he say to you?
0:02:06 > 0:02:09Well, it's more thumping and fighting and that, you know,
0:02:09 > 0:02:10between the two.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13And how do you feel then?
0:02:13 > 0:02:15Well, I don't mind it all that much.
0:02:15 > 0:02:18You know, you get used to it after a bit.
0:02:18 > 0:02:20Do you lose your temper very often?
0:02:20 > 0:02:24Um... Not very often. I do sometimes.
0:02:24 > 0:02:26What happens when you do?
0:02:26 > 0:02:29Well, I go red in the face and then I go off...
0:02:29 > 0:02:34I normally go upstairs, put my head under my pillow and start sulking.
0:02:36 > 0:02:38Do you ever have a struggle with yourself
0:02:38 > 0:02:41and try to stop yourself from getting angry?
0:02:41 > 0:02:45Yes. I try counting to ten but I can never do it.
0:02:45 > 0:02:48And how would you feel when you get angry against your brother?
0:02:48 > 0:02:51Ooh, I go red in the face.
0:02:51 > 0:02:53What makes you do that, do you think?
0:02:53 > 0:02:57Um... Well, it's probably a natural reaction.
0:02:58 > 0:03:01How much can you sort of control this tensed-up feeling that you get?
0:03:01 > 0:03:05Oh! To quite an extent, really.
0:03:05 > 0:03:06Oh. How?
0:03:08 > 0:03:10How can you control it?
0:03:10 > 0:03:13Well, you know, it's a sort of willpower.
0:03:15 > 0:03:16And what do you do with your willpower?
0:03:16 > 0:03:18What do you say to yourself?
0:03:18 > 0:03:20Stop it, I don't like getting thumped.
0:03:26 > 0:03:29Do you know an important person?
0:03:29 > 0:03:33Yes, my mummy thinks she's important when she gets new clothes
0:03:33 > 0:03:35and she tries them on
0:03:35 > 0:03:38and she's very pleased with herself for getting them.
0:03:40 > 0:03:42Who do you say is important?
0:03:42 > 0:03:45Well, Mr Wilson's important because you can't criticise him.
0:03:45 > 0:03:47What about you?
0:03:47 > 0:03:49What kind of a job do you think the Prime Minister's got?
0:03:49 > 0:03:53I think he's got a very easy one cos he plans to do things
0:03:53 > 0:03:55but he doesn't get round to do them.
0:03:55 > 0:03:58I've never met the Prime Minister, but I've got his autograph
0:03:58 > 0:04:01and I've got the Foreign Secretary's, Mr...um, Brown.
0:04:02 > 0:04:04They're both terrible writers -
0:04:04 > 0:04:08if I wrote like that, I would get wrung off the teacher.
0:04:08 > 0:04:09What would the teacher say?
0:04:09 > 0:04:12She would say, "You're a naughty, naughty little girl."
0:04:14 > 0:04:17Well, I think football referees are very important
0:04:17 > 0:04:20in World Cup matches, FA Cup final matches
0:04:20 > 0:04:22and other such matches as these.
0:04:22 > 0:04:25But in league matches, no, they're not all that important.
0:04:26 > 0:04:27Why not?
0:04:27 > 0:04:31Well, half the time they don't know what they're doing.
0:04:31 > 0:04:33Well, the pop groups are very important
0:04:33 > 0:04:36because, I mean, without them, we wouldn't have any...
0:04:36 > 0:04:38Well, at least they bring in money for the records
0:04:38 > 0:04:41and we have to have a pop singer
0:04:41 > 0:04:43to go into the Eurovision Song Contest,
0:04:43 > 0:04:47and if we win, more people from other countries buy our records
0:04:47 > 0:04:50so we get more money to put into the bank.
0:04:50 > 0:04:53You're the head boy here - are you an important person?
0:04:53 > 0:04:55Yes, I suppose I am, really.
0:04:55 > 0:04:59Can you remember when you first got this authority, what that was like?
0:05:00 > 0:05:02Well, yes, I can remember.
0:05:02 > 0:05:07I was very worried of whether I would get the job -
0:05:07 > 0:05:08I wasn't certain at all.
0:05:08 > 0:05:11And I was almost certain
0:05:11 > 0:05:15that either Kevin Corner or Stephen Sheer would get the job.
0:05:17 > 0:05:23And I was off school for about a day with worrying.
0:05:23 > 0:05:26Me mam said it was with worrying, but I didn't really know.
0:05:26 > 0:05:29And then when I got to the school,
0:05:29 > 0:05:33Mr Glover called all these people into the hall,
0:05:33 > 0:05:37and I thought, "Oh, this must be it. I must be a monitor or something."
0:05:37 > 0:05:43And...then Mr Glover said that the staff had...
0:05:43 > 0:05:47"The staff and I have decided who's going to be the head boy,"
0:05:47 > 0:05:49and he called out my name.
0:05:49 > 0:05:52I really got the shock of me life and I didn't know what had happened.
0:05:52 > 0:05:56Well, what about being important like this and having authority -
0:05:56 > 0:05:58is it worthwhile?
0:05:58 > 0:06:00Yes, it's very worthwhile.
0:06:00 > 0:06:04It gives me a sense of responsibility.
0:06:05 > 0:06:07I feel that I've got a job to do
0:06:07 > 0:06:08and I must do it.
0:06:10 > 0:06:14I think the sergeant majors think that they're important
0:06:14 > 0:06:20because the way they boss soldiers around that are under their rank.
0:06:20 > 0:06:25For instance, on the parades in front of generals,
0:06:25 > 0:06:27they shout about the soldiers like,
0:06:27 > 0:06:29"Attention!
0:06:29 > 0:06:30"March!"
0:06:32 > 0:06:34And why do you think they shout at the soldiers like that?
0:06:34 > 0:06:36Because they want to show how important they are
0:06:36 > 0:06:38and because they're thick.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42Have you ever met anybody who thought he was important?
0:06:42 > 0:06:44Well, once I did.
0:06:44 > 0:06:46There was this park I was playing in.
0:06:46 > 0:06:49I was on these rocks at the edge of the water
0:06:49 > 0:06:51and this park keeper came along.
0:06:51 > 0:06:54You know, he was all la-di-da, thinking he was great.
0:06:54 > 0:06:59I suppose he'd just got the job. Anyhow, he was only about 20.
0:06:59 > 0:07:01Well, anyhow, I was sitting on the rocks
0:07:01 > 0:07:04just watching the lads fishing, and he came over -
0:07:04 > 0:07:06"Hey, get off the..." You know?
0:07:06 > 0:07:12Just going on as though he was great and showing off and boasting.
0:07:12 > 0:07:15What did you think about him?
0:07:15 > 0:07:16Well, I thought he was a bit stupid.
0:07:19 > 0:07:21How much do you think it matters what you look like?
0:07:21 > 0:07:24Well, if you're going for a job,
0:07:24 > 0:07:28the people who are going to give you a job
0:07:28 > 0:07:31think that only the appearance matters,
0:07:31 > 0:07:33not the character,
0:07:33 > 0:07:37and so they give jobs to people who look good-looking
0:07:37 > 0:07:42and...quite trendy and stuff like that and rich.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45Say if you were going to visit somebody who you know very well
0:07:45 > 0:07:48and say he was a major in the army or something like that,
0:07:48 > 0:07:53and you want to look your best to go there for you going out to tea,
0:07:53 > 0:07:56so and you want to look your best.
0:07:56 > 0:07:58So what do you wear when you're going to see a major?
0:07:58 > 0:08:01Well, you could wear your best dress if you were a girl
0:08:01 > 0:08:03and your best suit if you were a man.
0:08:05 > 0:08:08Well, it doesn't really matter at all, because when...
0:08:08 > 0:08:10Well, it's when they're ugly,
0:08:10 > 0:08:12they might, they might be very nice,
0:08:12 > 0:08:15and when they look nice, they might be horrible.
0:08:15 > 0:08:18How would you like to look yourself?
0:08:18 > 0:08:20- All nice.- How, though?
0:08:21 > 0:08:23Um...
0:08:25 > 0:08:27Nice face.
0:08:27 > 0:08:30What sort of face would you choose if you could?
0:08:30 > 0:08:32My own face.
0:08:33 > 0:08:36Why do women wear fashionable clothes, do you think?
0:08:36 > 0:08:39Well, to get boyfriends, and...
0:08:39 > 0:08:40How do you mean?
0:08:40 > 0:08:43Well, if they look nice and pretty and go to the dance,
0:08:43 > 0:08:47- you know, boys go... - HE WOLF-WHISTLES
0:08:47 > 0:08:52And...they just want boyfriends, to get them.
0:08:52 > 0:08:55What's wrong with the way some women look these days, then?
0:08:57 > 0:09:00Well, some people dress up mad.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03- How do you mean?- They sort of...
0:09:03 > 0:09:06They've got fringes on the bottom of their legs.
0:09:06 > 0:09:09And they pour all ink on... The boys put ink on their jeans
0:09:09 > 0:09:12and make themselves look a mess and have long hair.
0:09:13 > 0:09:17And the girls have funny dresses on.
0:09:17 > 0:09:19They're all jazzy colours.
0:09:19 > 0:09:21Why do they do it, do you think?
0:09:21 > 0:09:23To be mod.
0:09:23 > 0:09:25Keep up-to-date with everybody else.
0:09:25 > 0:09:27And what's wrong with some of these fashions and...?
0:09:29 > 0:09:31Too many holes in the dresses.
0:09:31 > 0:09:33- Too many holes in them? - Must be draughty.
0:09:33 > 0:09:37Now, why do these women go to so much trouble over their appearance?
0:09:37 > 0:09:39Well, they want to look smart,
0:09:39 > 0:09:44they want to look the best out of all their friends and relations.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47They want to boast about it,
0:09:47 > 0:09:50they want to be the smartest and the prettiest
0:09:50 > 0:09:52and all this sort of thing.
0:09:52 > 0:09:54They want to be the best out of them.
0:09:54 > 0:09:57- What do you think of them? - Well... Um...
0:09:59 > 0:10:01They want to look...
0:10:01 > 0:10:05Well, they look a bit posh, a bit over-smart, I should say.
0:10:12 > 0:10:15Well, I think it's all craters and...
0:10:17 > 0:10:21..full of... Well, they say cheese, but I don't think it is.
0:10:21 > 0:10:26I just think it's...big craters...
0:10:26 > 0:10:29- Yeah. - ..with little craters next to it
0:10:29 > 0:10:31and big shiny rocks and...
0:10:32 > 0:10:34Why don't you think it's cheese?
0:10:36 > 0:10:39Well, from colour...no.
0:10:39 > 0:10:42We would make a rocket and sneak out of the door
0:10:42 > 0:10:46and we would get in it and fly up to space.
0:10:46 > 0:10:48And he will come to my house
0:10:48 > 0:10:51- and he could help me make a rocket. - Yeah.
0:10:51 > 0:10:55Cos I've got loads of wood and my daddy doesn't want it.
0:10:55 > 0:10:59- And we could make... - Big pieces?!- Mm.
0:10:59 > 0:11:01And we can paint it.
0:11:01 > 0:11:03And that'd get you to the moon, would it?
0:11:03 > 0:11:07Yes, cos I'd put some special controls in...
0:11:07 > 0:11:09- Yeah.- ..and brakes.
0:11:09 > 0:11:13- Are you sure it'd be big enough to take you to the moon?- Yes.- Yes.
0:11:13 > 0:11:15Cos we'd make it that wide.
0:11:15 > 0:11:17Or make it as big as we can.
0:11:17 > 0:11:21Yes. As long as we've got enough wood.
0:11:21 > 0:11:24- Why... - We'll make it as big as this room.
0:11:24 > 0:11:26- Why wouldn't...- Yes, we'll make it bigger than this room.
0:11:26 > 0:11:29Why wouldn't you take your mummy and daddy with you to the moon?
0:11:29 > 0:11:32Cos we don't want them to send us to bed at our bedtime -
0:11:32 > 0:11:36- we want to go to bed whenever we want to.- Yes.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39Do you think there are any humans there already?
0:11:39 > 0:11:40Not like us.
0:11:40 > 0:11:42What would they be like, then?
0:11:42 > 0:11:44Oh, I don't know. They might have three arms. I don't know.
0:11:44 > 0:11:46Three arms?
0:11:46 > 0:11:49What do you think they'd do when people like us arrive?
0:11:49 > 0:11:53Well, they might try and attack us or they might be frightened.
0:11:53 > 0:11:56What would you do to try and make them friendly?
0:11:56 > 0:11:57Give them things.
0:11:57 > 0:11:59What would you give them?
0:11:59 > 0:12:01Well, the things you've taken from home.
0:12:01 > 0:12:04But what sort of things would appeal to men with three arms?
0:12:06 > 0:12:08A pair of gloves and an odd one.
0:12:10 > 0:12:13I think they would be green with black spots on
0:12:13 > 0:12:16and they'll have a little hook on the top of the head.
0:12:18 > 0:12:21- What's the hook for? - Hanging coats on.
0:12:21 > 0:12:24- It would be quite exciting, really.- Yeah.
0:12:24 > 0:12:27All the Martian robots attacking.
0:12:27 > 0:12:29Well...
0:12:29 > 0:12:32- Do you think you could go?- Well... - Well, there's no oxygen up there.
0:12:32 > 0:12:36No, well, there isn't, actually, so if there's no oxygen...
0:12:36 > 0:12:37You can't breathe.
0:12:37 > 0:12:41- Well, you couldn't breathe without any oxygen, could you?- No.
0:12:41 > 0:12:44- So... - But if you took a plant up there
0:12:44 > 0:12:46with oxygen tanks on that lasts an hour
0:12:46 > 0:12:52and you put the plant in and it breathes out oxygen,
0:12:52 > 0:12:53you could live up there.
0:12:53 > 0:12:55But how would you get the plants up there?
0:12:55 > 0:12:58- How would you get you up there? - In a rocket.
0:12:58 > 0:13:01In a rocket, I should think, because...
0:13:01 > 0:13:03Two rockets soldered together!
0:13:03 > 0:13:06Because if you wanted to jump up to the moon,
0:13:06 > 0:13:07you'd only go about several feet
0:13:07 > 0:13:09and if you wanted to go in a plane,
0:13:09 > 0:13:13that wouldn't go very high either cos it's really faraway.
0:13:13 > 0:13:16Do you think there should be things like pubs on the moon and that?
0:13:16 > 0:13:18Well, no, I wouldn't say that
0:13:18 > 0:13:22because we've got enough boozers down here.
0:13:22 > 0:13:24Why should we have them up there as well?
0:13:24 > 0:13:26Well, they couldn't have come from Jupiter
0:13:26 > 0:13:29because that, phew, it's horribly gassy there,
0:13:29 > 0:13:31so they couldn't have come from there...
0:13:31 > 0:13:34And they couldn't have come from Uranus either - that's freezing.
0:13:34 > 0:13:39- Oh, no.- Or Pluto either. Ooh! - Pluto, that's ever so faraway.
0:13:39 > 0:13:41If you two went to the moon,
0:13:41 > 0:13:44what would you like to leave behind most?
0:13:44 > 0:13:48Oh, well, not school - I'd like to take school with us.
0:13:48 > 0:13:52- Ew, would you?!- Yes!- Ew, ew...
0:13:52 > 0:13:54What would you leave behind, then?
0:13:54 > 0:13:55What would I leave behind?
0:13:55 > 0:13:58I wouldn't go with my brother, not on your life.
0:13:59 > 0:14:01Who would you take with you?
0:14:03 > 0:14:06Poor people and people who are honest.
0:14:07 > 0:14:11I wouldn't take royal people cos I don't like 'em.
0:14:11 > 0:14:12- Don't you?- No.
0:14:12 > 0:14:16- Don't you think you'd need royal people on the moon?- No.
0:14:17 > 0:14:18How would you sort them out?
0:14:20 > 0:14:23Well, I'd try and tell to them that you'd have to be good
0:14:23 > 0:14:26and if they were royal, I'd say, "You're royal no more
0:14:26 > 0:14:28"and you're just the same as the other people."
0:14:29 > 0:14:32Who would be royal on the moon? Who would be the leader?
0:14:32 > 0:14:36- Who would be the king and the queen?- Me.
0:14:36 > 0:14:38I wouldn't take any girls.
0:14:38 > 0:14:40- Why not?- I don't like them.
0:14:40 > 0:14:42But wouldn't you need them
0:14:42 > 0:14:44if you are going to start a new race, you know?
0:14:44 > 0:14:46- No.- No?- No.
0:14:46 > 0:14:48What would you do without them?
0:14:48 > 0:14:50Yeah, we'd need them for cooking.
0:14:51 > 0:14:52Do you think? Cooking?
0:14:52 > 0:14:54- Yeah, and housework. - And housework.
0:14:54 > 0:14:57- Is that all girls do, you think? - No.
0:14:57 > 0:15:00How would you spend your last day on Earth?
0:15:00 > 0:15:03Well, I'd read, um...history books.
0:15:03 > 0:15:04What about?
0:15:06 > 0:15:09About Custer's Last Stand and anything like that.
0:15:09 > 0:15:11Why would you do that before you went to the moon?
0:15:11 > 0:15:13Because I like it.
0:15:13 > 0:15:16- Would it do you any good, though? - Well, yes.
0:15:16 > 0:15:17What good would it do you?
0:15:17 > 0:15:19It would keep my mind refreshed.
0:15:21 > 0:15:25Well, I'd go to an hotel...
0:15:25 > 0:15:28- Yeah.- ..ask for a spare room. - Yeah.
0:15:28 > 0:15:30After I've had my dinner...
0:15:31 > 0:15:33..and if I've had a drink,
0:15:33 > 0:15:38- I might go into a bar...- Yeah. - ..and I'll have a pint.
0:15:38 > 0:15:39A pint, would you?
0:15:39 > 0:15:41And then you'd be all ready to go to the moon?
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- Not yet, not yet. - Oh, what, what next?
0:15:45 > 0:15:48Well, after I've had my dinner...
0:15:49 > 0:15:51..and had a lie-down for two hours or so...
0:15:53 > 0:15:56..go back to bar and have another pint.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58Hey, you'll be drunk by the time you got on the moon.
0:15:59 > 0:16:02And then have a good morning's sleep...
0:16:03 > 0:16:05..and then ready for takeoff in morning.
0:16:06 > 0:16:08Where do you say a baby comes from?
0:16:08 > 0:16:11They come from a little tiny seed
0:16:11 > 0:16:15what grows in your body and it grows bigger
0:16:15 > 0:16:19and they, the mother has an operation
0:16:19 > 0:16:21and when they have an operation,
0:16:21 > 0:16:25they take it out and a little baby...
0:16:25 > 0:16:28It cracks a little bit and then it cracks more
0:16:28 > 0:16:34and a baby comes out and they feed out of something with milk
0:16:34 > 0:16:39and then, when they're bigger, they can have a bottle and a dummy.
0:16:39 > 0:16:41But what is it that cracks?
0:16:42 > 0:16:45- Seed.- The seed...with the baby in?
0:16:47 > 0:16:50Because the baby has to grow first.
0:16:50 > 0:16:52Where does the seed come from?
0:16:53 > 0:16:54It grows.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57Have you got a baby in your house?
0:16:57 > 0:17:01Yes, but she isn't actually a baby - she's a toddler.
0:17:01 > 0:17:03- She's a toddler.- Yes.
0:17:03 > 0:17:05What do you think about her?
0:17:05 > 0:17:11Well, I'm a bit proud of her, but the thing is, she's a nuisance.
0:17:11 > 0:17:12- A nuisance?- Yes.
0:17:12 > 0:17:15- In what way?- Hm?- In what way?
0:17:17 > 0:17:18Well...
0:17:20 > 0:17:23..we've got a double sink in our kitchen
0:17:23 > 0:17:27and sometimes she goes to the sink when Mummy wants to go
0:17:27 > 0:17:30and then Mummy has to move to the other sink
0:17:30 > 0:17:35because she's playing ddwr bach, it's called in Welsh.
0:17:35 > 0:17:39You know, she's got a teapot, her little tea set,
0:17:39 > 0:17:42and plays with a little water on the sink.
0:17:42 > 0:17:45- And this is called what?- Ddwr bach.
0:17:45 > 0:17:46Ddwr bach.
0:17:46 > 0:17:49- In English, little water. - HE LAUGHS
0:17:49 > 0:17:50Do you want a baby?
0:17:51 > 0:17:54How would you look after it? What would you do with it?
0:17:54 > 0:17:56I'll feed its bottle - I know how to do that,
0:17:56 > 0:17:59change its nappy - I know how to do that.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01Is there a baby in your house?
0:18:01 > 0:18:03Mm, well, no.
0:18:05 > 0:18:07- Would you like there to be one?- Yes.
0:18:08 > 0:18:10Why? What would you do if you had one?
0:18:11 > 0:18:13Play with him quite a lot.
0:18:16 > 0:18:21And sometimes I'd stop him being naughty.
0:18:23 > 0:18:26Why would you like to have a baby to play with?
0:18:28 > 0:18:31Well, so I'd have someone else to play with,
0:18:31 > 0:18:35cos I've got a game of snakes and ladders and ludo
0:18:35 > 0:18:38and I haven't got anyone to play it with.
0:18:44 > 0:18:47Well, I think Parliament, myself, is a good idea.
0:18:47 > 0:18:51But the trouble is you hear more of it on television than other things.
0:18:51 > 0:18:52I expect it would be a good idea
0:18:52 > 0:18:57just to have one programme on Parliament on the television.
0:18:57 > 0:19:02Well, it was nice and it was attractive in a lot of the places
0:19:02 > 0:19:05and there was the Lord's...place
0:19:05 > 0:19:10and the...Queen's Robing Chamber place
0:19:10 > 0:19:14and I thought the throne thing was nice.
0:19:14 > 0:19:17And there were two lobbies -
0:19:17 > 0:19:21the Aye lobby and the Nay lobby
0:19:21 > 0:19:23and they were both quite nice.
0:19:23 > 0:19:25Were you surprised by anything?
0:19:25 > 0:19:29Yes, I was surprised by not finding any ashtrays around.
0:19:29 > 0:19:30How do you mean?
0:19:30 > 0:19:33Well, I thought the Lords would, you know, like smoking.
0:19:34 > 0:19:39- Did you look for ashtrays? - Yes. I didn't see any around.
0:19:39 > 0:19:42How does Parliament work? What happens?
0:19:42 > 0:19:44Well, em, the Commons...
0:19:44 > 0:19:45The Houses of Commons,
0:19:45 > 0:19:48they talk to the Chancellor of the Exchequer
0:19:48 > 0:19:51and they ask him what's going to go up.
0:19:53 > 0:19:56They put sweets up, which I don't want the sweets to go up.
0:19:56 > 0:19:58And things...cigarettes,
0:19:58 > 0:20:03but...Mr Wilson, I think, tells them not to put tobacco up
0:20:03 > 0:20:06cos he smokes tobacco in his pipe,
0:20:06 > 0:20:09so that's not fair they'll put tobacco up.
0:20:09 > 0:20:12Who can tell me what an MP does all day?
0:20:14 > 0:20:17What do you think a whip does in Parliament?
0:20:17 > 0:20:19A whip?
0:20:20 > 0:20:21Whips people.
0:20:21 > 0:20:23What for?
0:20:23 > 0:20:25Cos they've been bad.
0:20:25 > 0:20:28What sort of a life does an MP have? Does he have it easy, do you think?
0:20:28 > 0:20:33Yes, I think he has it easy because he just sits in his office
0:20:33 > 0:20:36and works out bills and doesn't do any hard work like...
0:20:38 > 0:20:41..being a road sweeper or driving a big lorry.
0:20:41 > 0:20:45Some MPs say the conditions in the House aren't fit to work in -
0:20:45 > 0:20:46what do you think?
0:20:46 > 0:20:49I think it's all right and I wouldn't mind it for me 'ome.
0:20:49 > 0:20:52- You'd like to live in there, would you?- Yeah.
0:20:52 > 0:20:53What would you do with it?
0:20:53 > 0:20:56Well, I wouldn't send it to America, that's for a start.
0:20:56 > 0:20:57You wouldn't? Why not?
0:20:58 > 0:21:00Well, cos they've got Queen Elizabeth,
0:21:00 > 0:21:01they've got Queen Mary,
0:21:01 > 0:21:04and they're going to have the London Bridge.
0:21:04 > 0:21:07They're going to have nearly all the things that we're going to have.
0:21:07 > 0:21:09So what would you do with the Houses of Parliament?
0:21:09 > 0:21:11I'd add little things.
0:21:11 > 0:21:14What sort of little things would you add?
0:21:14 > 0:21:16- The Mona Lisa. - The Mona Lisa?
0:21:16 > 0:21:17What else?
0:21:19 > 0:21:22Buy another throne and buy some other crowns
0:21:22 > 0:21:24from other countries if they've got them spare.
0:21:24 > 0:21:27What were the members doing? Was it all very lively?
0:21:27 > 0:21:29No, they were asleep.
0:21:29 > 0:21:32Some gentleman had his feet up on a chair
0:21:32 > 0:21:35and he was leaning right back snoring.
0:21:36 > 0:21:38Did anybody take any notice of him?
0:21:38 > 0:21:41No, it was just a bit of a laugh, I thought.
0:21:41 > 0:21:45They were all laughing about. It was like a comedy show.
0:21:45 > 0:21:48I thought it would be a bit more serious than it was.
0:21:49 > 0:21:51Supposing you had a home of your own
0:21:51 > 0:21:54and you had some people in for dinner,
0:21:54 > 0:21:55what's the best thing?
0:21:55 > 0:21:58- Cheese pie.- Pie?- Cheese pie.
0:21:59 > 0:22:02- Can you make cheese pie?- Yes.
0:22:02 > 0:22:03How?
0:22:07 > 0:22:11The first course would be fish, because I like that.
0:22:11 > 0:22:15And the second course would be...
0:22:15 > 0:22:18stew or soup or something like that,
0:22:18 > 0:22:20something extravagant.
0:22:20 > 0:22:25And...well, I don't know what I'd give them for the third lot.
0:22:25 > 0:22:26Anything they liked, I suppose.
0:22:26 > 0:22:30Fruit cocktail, nice fresh fruit salad
0:22:30 > 0:22:32and things like that.
0:22:32 > 0:22:34- Do you like them as well?- Yes.
0:22:34 > 0:22:36I wouldn't give them anything I didn't like.
0:22:36 > 0:22:40Your idea of an ideal home -
0:22:40 > 0:22:42what would it be like and where would it be?
0:22:42 > 0:22:46I'd have... In an island, and I'd have...
0:22:46 > 0:22:48I'd have servants.
0:22:50 > 0:22:51Um...
0:22:53 > 0:22:57I'd have servants doing all the work sometimes.
0:22:57 > 0:22:59I'd let them have, like, days off -
0:22:59 > 0:23:03Sunday and Saturday and...Monday and Wednesday,
0:23:03 > 0:23:05something like that.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08Why would it be on an island?
0:23:08 > 0:23:10So you can be all by yourself then.
0:23:10 > 0:23:13Nobody's bossing you around,
0:23:13 > 0:23:15like the Queen saying you've got to do this,
0:23:15 > 0:23:18you've got to pay your rates and all this.
0:23:18 > 0:23:22Well, I think most men do help, but some men are very lazy.
0:23:22 > 0:23:25What about you? Where would your ideal home be?
0:23:26 > 0:23:28Well, probably under the sea.
0:23:29 > 0:23:30Em...
0:23:33 > 0:23:36Roundabout where there's lots of coral and oysters.
0:23:36 > 0:23:39- Lots of...?- Coral and oysters.
0:23:41 > 0:23:43- Is it possible to live under the sea? - Yes.
0:23:45 > 0:23:47Well, how would you breathe?
0:23:47 > 0:23:52Well, there'd be an oxygen tank up in the roof
0:23:52 > 0:23:56and some pipes coming round to each room -
0:23:56 > 0:24:02one for the oxygen to come in and one for the used air to go out.
0:24:06 > 0:24:10Before you came here with your caravan and your mother and father,
0:24:10 > 0:24:11where else have you lived?
0:24:11 > 0:24:17Bradford, Axbridge and Southend and...Colchester.
0:24:17 > 0:24:21- Do you like moving about like this from place to place?- No.- No.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24- You don't?- No.
0:24:24 > 0:24:26What would you like to do, then?
0:24:26 > 0:24:29I'd like to settle down and go to school.
0:24:29 > 0:24:31- You'd like to what? - Settle down and go to school.
0:24:31 > 0:24:34Why would you like to settle down and go to school?
0:24:34 > 0:24:35Cos I could read and write.
0:24:37 > 0:24:39Why do you want to learn to read and write, then?
0:24:39 > 0:24:42Cos I won't be a fool then, would I?
0:24:42 > 0:24:45What about you two - are you both real Gypsies?
0:24:45 > 0:24:47I'm a real Gypsy.
0:24:47 > 0:24:50- Why?- My mother and father's a Gypsy.
0:24:50 > 0:24:53What about you? You don't look like a Gypsy to me.
0:24:53 > 0:24:54No, I'm half and half.
0:24:54 > 0:24:58- You're half and half?- Yes. - What does that mean?
0:24:58 > 0:25:02Well, me mum's a Gypsy and me dad's a Gorgie.
0:25:02 > 0:25:04Your mum's a Gypsy and your dad's a....?
0:25:04 > 0:25:06- Gorgie.- What's a Gorgie?
0:25:06 > 0:25:09Well, someone who lives in the 'ouse.
0:25:09 > 0:25:12Well, what about the children at school that live in houses?
0:25:12 > 0:25:15- Do you call them Gorgie?- Yes.
0:25:15 > 0:25:16What do you say to them?
0:25:16 > 0:25:18Gorgie, Gorgie, live in the 'ouse,
0:25:18 > 0:25:21all the rats are running in and out.
0:25:22 > 0:25:24- Gorgie, Gorgie... - Live in the 'ouse,
0:25:24 > 0:25:28all the rats are running in and out.
0:25:28 > 0:25:30And is that right? People who live in houses...
0:25:30 > 0:25:31No.
0:25:31 > 0:25:34- They don't have rats really? - No.
0:25:34 > 0:25:37Have you got any other sayings like this?
0:25:38 > 0:25:40Any other Gypsy sayings?
0:25:40 > 0:25:42- Yes.- What?
0:25:42 > 0:25:46If your wash your hair in May, you washes one of the family away.
0:25:46 > 0:25:48What does that mean?
0:25:48 > 0:25:53Well, if you washes your hair in May, one of your family dies.
0:25:54 > 0:25:57- Is that a Gypsy saying?- Yes.- Yes.
0:25:57 > 0:26:01- Is it true?- No.- No.
0:26:01 > 0:26:03But the old Gypsies believes in it.
0:26:03 > 0:26:06- The old Gypsies believe in it? - Yes.- Yes.
0:26:06 > 0:26:09- And you're one of the new Gypsies? - Yes.- Yes.
0:26:09 > 0:26:13Why don't your mummy and daddy travel about with you now?
0:26:14 > 0:26:17Because we're settled down on a site and they likes it here.
0:26:19 > 0:26:23Well, when you are travelling about, what is it like for you?
0:26:25 > 0:26:28When you're driving about and when you open some window
0:26:28 > 0:26:29it's like all cold
0:26:29 > 0:26:31and you've got to shut the window again.
0:26:31 > 0:26:36And when you travels about and you put the trailer on a towbar,
0:26:36 > 0:26:39you got to make sure you put all your crocks down...
0:26:39 > 0:26:40All your...?
0:26:40 > 0:26:45Your, all your crocks and cups, cos, for our tea,
0:26:45 > 0:26:50cos if you leaves them up, they all smash
0:26:50 > 0:26:53when they goes over a bump or something, they all smash -
0:26:53 > 0:26:55that's why we puts them in a box.
0:26:55 > 0:26:58What kind of a job do you want to have?
0:26:58 > 0:27:01I'll do the job that me dad does - rag and bone hunter.
0:27:01 > 0:27:03- Rag and boning?- Yes, sir.
0:27:03 > 0:27:07- Is that a good job? - Not quite so bad, sir.
0:27:07 > 0:27:10As in...working in the factory. You can earn more money.
0:27:12 > 0:27:15- You can earn more money doing rag and boning?- Yes, sir.
0:27:15 > 0:27:18- Do you know how to go about it now? - Yes, sir.
0:27:18 > 0:27:20- Have you done any?- Yes, sir.
0:27:20 > 0:27:22- What do you do?- So we go round the houses and knock on the door
0:27:22 > 0:27:24and ask for any old rags or any old scrap iron.
0:27:24 > 0:27:27If they don't, we go out and shut the door behind us.
0:27:27 > 0:27:31- You what?- We go out and shut the door behind us.
0:27:31 > 0:27:33And if we don't want to go to the doors,
0:27:33 > 0:27:35we can holler out, "Rag bone!"
0:27:35 > 0:27:38- You can holler out rag and bone? - Yes, sir.
0:27:38 > 0:27:40And so, yeah, he comes out and says,
0:27:40 > 0:27:44"We've got some old scrap here," or anything like that.
0:27:44 > 0:27:46We'll come down and fix that with the lorry.
0:27:46 > 0:27:48Are you good at hollering out?
0:27:48 > 0:27:51Not, not quite so good, but I can do it.
0:27:51 > 0:27:54- You can do it?- Yes, sir. - Can we hear it?
0:27:54 > 0:27:56"Rag bone!"