0:00:46 > 0:00:50- What do you do with your dad?- Play.
0:00:50 > 0:00:52Yeah? How do you play?
0:00:52 > 0:00:57- Don't you know how to play?- I don't know how you play with your dad.
0:00:57 > 0:01:01Oh, boxing. Wrestling.
0:01:01 > 0:01:04That's with my brother, boxing and wrestling.
0:01:04 > 0:01:07And we play football in the front room.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09What do you do with your daddy?
0:01:09 > 0:01:12I just play games with him and, do you know, last time,
0:01:12 > 0:01:14I put an octopus on his pillow
0:01:14 > 0:01:18and she jumped right over the bed onto my face!
0:01:18 > 0:01:21- Who did?- My dad.
0:01:21 > 0:01:23Can I go to the toilet, please?
0:01:23 > 0:01:27Is there anything your mummy and daddy do that you don't like?
0:01:27 > 0:01:32Yes, something what I really don't like - when they smack me! Hm!
0:01:32 > 0:01:34Naughty boy.
0:01:34 > 0:01:39- How old do you have to be to be a grandfather?- About 24.
0:01:40 > 0:01:43But... Or about something like that.
0:01:43 > 0:01:48Or 44. My nanny is 90.
0:01:48 > 0:01:5090 years old.
0:01:50 > 0:01:55- What are your brothers and sisters like, then?- Horrible!- Horrible.
0:01:55 > 0:01:59- Only one of my brothers are nice. - Why are they horrible?
0:01:59 > 0:02:03Well, my brother keeps on annoying me and he just won't stop it.
0:02:03 > 0:02:06He punches me and pulls me by the ears!
0:02:06 > 0:02:10- And jumps on my bed in the morning. - My brother's worst.
0:02:10 > 0:02:14He tramples all my toys, breaks them, tears up all my pictures.
0:02:14 > 0:02:18Kicks me, I get black and blue marks all over.
0:02:18 > 0:02:23He pulls my hair, he scratches. He pinches.
0:02:23 > 0:02:26He bites. He kicks!
0:02:27 > 0:02:29What do you do to him?
0:02:29 > 0:02:32I smack him and then I get a smack in the head!
0:02:32 > 0:02:35What is the very best thing you do with your daddy?
0:02:35 > 0:02:39- Go out climbing.- Oh, does he climb?
0:02:39 > 0:02:41Yes, he has to pull me up.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44One time I sat on a prickle bush and I hurt myself.
0:02:44 > 0:02:49It really hurt and I've still got the prickle in my bottom!
0:02:49 > 0:02:51It hurts very much.
0:02:51 > 0:02:55Do you ever pull faces at your dad?
0:02:55 > 0:02:59- Yeah, when he's taking a photo. - What sort of face do you pull?
0:03:01 > 0:03:04That's my best one. Another one's...
0:03:04 > 0:03:06Have you got any more?
0:03:07 > 0:03:09That you pull at your dad. Show us.
0:03:09 > 0:03:11I know three more.
0:03:11 > 0:03:13Go on, then.
0:03:13 > 0:03:15And now the other.
0:03:15 > 0:03:16This is the last one.
0:03:18 > 0:03:23Do you think most families here are happy or unhappy?
0:03:23 > 0:03:27Most of them are happy but some do quarrel like my mum and dad.
0:03:27 > 0:03:31They were quarrelling so I went upstairs and got my tape recorder
0:03:31 > 0:03:34and put it to the door, and I had it all on my tape recorder!
0:03:34 > 0:03:37What did they say when you played it back?
0:03:37 > 0:03:40Well, I didn't show my dad in case he grew a little bit cross
0:03:40 > 0:03:43so I just showed my mum and she found it quite a giggle.
0:03:43 > 0:03:49- Who's got the most relatives, then? - Him.- How many have you got?
0:03:49 > 0:03:5186 to 90.
0:03:51 > 0:03:53How do you know?
0:03:53 > 0:03:56We counted them about six months ago.
0:03:56 > 0:04:02How did you set about counting 86 or 90 relatives? What did you do?
0:04:02 > 0:04:06On the way home, my sister and I said, um,
0:04:06 > 0:04:09"Auntie Ma... Auntie Marie
0:04:09 > 0:04:15"and Auntie Mary is two. And Steve and Andy, Rosemary is five."
0:04:15 > 0:04:18And on till we got to ourselves.
0:04:18 > 0:04:21- 90 of you?- Something like that.
0:04:21 > 0:04:24What is it like having relations?
0:04:24 > 0:04:27Most of the relations are all right but some of them
0:04:27 > 0:04:29are a bit meaner than others.
0:04:29 > 0:04:30How are they mean?
0:04:30 > 0:04:34Well, when we go to see them, some of them give us two-and-six
0:04:34 > 0:04:38and some of them only give us, say, sixpence.
0:04:38 > 0:04:41Isn't it true that a lot of youngsters are unable to talk
0:04:41 > 0:04:42to their parents?
0:04:42 > 0:04:46Mostly because parents have a fixed idea of what children are
0:04:46 > 0:04:49and they can't get used to the fact that children are changing today.
0:04:49 > 0:04:52Modern children are different from the children of yesterday.
0:04:52 > 0:04:58- Why do you think that is? - Times have changed.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01Fashions have changed. Um...
0:05:03 > 0:05:05People talk differently,
0:05:05 > 0:05:08eat differently, have different jobs.
0:05:09 > 0:05:12- Why do you think all this has happened?- Um...
0:05:12 > 0:05:16Because people want to get better and better.
0:05:16 > 0:05:19They want to be better than they were before.
0:05:24 > 0:05:25What is bravery?
0:05:25 > 0:05:31It is somebody who can risk his own life to save other people's lives
0:05:31 > 0:05:37and he has to go over his endurance, maybe, to save somebody.
0:05:37 > 0:05:40Like, if he has to swim out quite far
0:05:40 > 0:05:43and maybe he can't swim properly but he will go all-out to
0:05:43 > 0:05:46save the other person, regardless of all costs.
0:05:46 > 0:05:49I think it's the love for other people
0:05:49 > 0:05:53and it's quite often done when they're trying to save somebody
0:05:53 > 0:05:56and not just so they can say, "I have been knighted,"
0:05:56 > 0:06:00like Sir Chichester, who went around the world single-handed.
0:06:00 > 0:06:04He didn't want just to go round just to say he was knighted.
0:06:04 > 0:06:08But he's very brave because he could have easily...
0:06:08 > 0:06:11A storm in Australia could easily have killed him
0:06:11 > 0:06:13going across there, and he didn't cheat.
0:06:13 > 0:06:16He could have cheated and nobody would have realised!
0:06:16 > 0:06:19Do you think it is brave to fight?
0:06:22 > 0:06:25- I don't think so.- Why not?
0:06:25 > 0:06:27- Do you like fighting?- No.
0:06:28 > 0:06:32What do the other boys think of you if you don't like fighting?
0:06:32 > 0:06:35They just say that you are a coward and that.
0:06:35 > 0:06:38- Do you mind being called a coward? - No.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42- Do you have to be brave at school ever?- Yeah, when you get the belt.
0:06:42 > 0:06:46- What happens when you get the belt? - Well, Mr Graham...
0:06:46 > 0:06:49The teacher takes you along and knocks at the door
0:06:49 > 0:06:54and she enters and she tells Mr Graham what he's done
0:06:54 > 0:06:58and she leaves and if you've to get the belt,
0:06:58 > 0:07:00he always takes off his coat
0:07:00 > 0:07:03and rolls up his sleeves, and when he brings out his belt
0:07:03 > 0:07:06he just bends it back, testing it,
0:07:06 > 0:07:09and then he tells you to hold out your hand.
0:07:09 > 0:07:13He can double it or leave it like that, and if he gives you two,
0:07:13 > 0:07:17he just hits you there, and you are allowed to change hands if you want.
0:07:17 > 0:07:22How do you feel when all this is going on? Are you scared or brave?
0:07:22 > 0:07:24Well... Half and half.
0:07:24 > 0:07:27How did you get your award for bravery?
0:07:27 > 0:07:30I helped to catch some hen thieves.
0:07:30 > 0:07:34Me and my brother and Donald McLeod went after the one that was
0:07:34 > 0:07:39- in the thing, in the hut thing. - And was this at night?- Yes.
0:07:39 > 0:07:42What did you do with the man when you caught him?
0:07:42 > 0:07:47We tied him up and told Colonel Watson,
0:07:47 > 0:07:49who phoned the police.
0:07:49 > 0:07:51- Were you frightened?- Not really.
0:07:51 > 0:07:55Just a little bit when I was going through the woods.
0:07:55 > 0:07:57- Would you have been frightened?- Yes!
0:07:57 > 0:08:00- Why?- Strange noises.
0:08:00 > 0:08:03And footsteps.
0:08:03 > 0:08:07- Aren't you as brave as your friend, don't you think?- No.
0:08:07 > 0:08:11- When are you brave in everyday life? - When I get my injection.
0:08:11 > 0:08:14How are you brave then?
0:08:14 > 0:08:17Because I stick my hand in there
0:08:17 > 0:08:22and then when it goes in... when it goes in, it doesn't...
0:08:22 > 0:08:28When I put my hand there and it goes in, it doesn't hurt there.
0:08:28 > 0:08:33- It doesn't hurt.- What's brave in that, then?- Hm?- What's brave in that?
0:08:33 > 0:08:36Because you're not crying!
0:08:36 > 0:08:38When are you brave, then?
0:08:38 > 0:08:41Oh, I'm brave when I get up in the middle of the night
0:08:41 > 0:08:46and I kind of feel as if I need the toilet and I just...
0:08:46 > 0:08:51I'm afraid, kind of, you see, so I say to myself, "I'm going to
0:08:51 > 0:08:55"be brave this time!" and I march into the toilet
0:08:55 > 0:08:57and march back again.
0:08:57 > 0:08:59What are you afraid of?
0:08:59 > 0:09:02Well, the wind is howling around the house
0:09:02 > 0:09:06and when I pull the toilet plug, it makes a terrible noise
0:09:06 > 0:09:11in the night, and I run back into my bed as fast as I can go.
0:09:11 > 0:09:14Why do some people try and save others
0:09:14 > 0:09:17if they are drowning or caught up a mountain or something?
0:09:18 > 0:09:21Well, some people care about other people
0:09:21 > 0:09:25and some people just think, "I will let them think for themselves.
0:09:25 > 0:09:27"I've nowt to do with them."
0:09:30 > 0:09:32Have you got any boyfriends?
0:09:32 > 0:09:34I did have one.
0:09:34 > 0:09:37- I've got one.- You have?- My Joe.
0:09:37 > 0:09:41He just came in by there.
0:09:41 > 0:09:43Right...
0:09:43 > 0:09:47- Would you like to marry him? - Yes.- Why?
0:09:47 > 0:09:49What do you like? Hey?
0:09:51 > 0:09:56- Because he keeps kissing me. - Does he?- He kisses all the girls.
0:09:56 > 0:09:58And he keeps kissing the boys!
0:09:58 > 0:10:02- I've got a girlfriend.- Oh?
0:10:02 > 0:10:06- And she always likes me. - She likes you?
0:10:06 > 0:10:10She always be's my partner when we go to dinner.
0:10:10 > 0:10:15- What sort of dinners do you go to? - School dinner.
0:10:15 > 0:10:18Who do you two want to marry, then?
0:10:18 > 0:10:22Well, really, we want to marry each other, really, we do,
0:10:22 > 0:10:26and that's why we planned it out last night.
0:10:26 > 0:10:28Do you want to marry him, Gillian?
0:10:28 > 0:10:33When you feel you are in love with somebody, what does it feel like?
0:10:33 > 0:10:35Well...
0:10:35 > 0:10:37You like each other
0:10:37 > 0:10:42and you can't look up on somebody else and, um...
0:10:44 > 0:10:47You can't marry somebody else.
0:10:47 > 0:10:50And what sort of man would you look for if you're expecting
0:10:50 > 0:10:53- to meet a husband?- A rich man.
0:10:53 > 0:10:56I would like a man with curly hair.
0:10:56 > 0:11:01What do you want the man that you'll marry to be like, do you think?
0:11:01 > 0:11:04I don't like him to have a beard!
0:11:04 > 0:11:08- What has he got to be?- Rich!
0:11:08 > 0:11:12- Yeah.- And brave. - That's all you care about!
0:11:12 > 0:11:14- No, it isn't.- What did you say?
0:11:14 > 0:11:18- That's all she cares about. - Ooh, it isn't!
0:11:18 > 0:11:23- You want to be rich when you grow up, don't you?- Well, you do as well.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26I don't. I don't want to spoil t'children.
0:11:26 > 0:11:29- Neither do I but... - THEY GIGGLE
0:11:29 > 0:11:33- Will it spoil children if you're rich, do you think?- Well...
0:11:33 > 0:11:38In comics, they always have them spoilt when they're rich.
0:11:38 > 0:11:41You have to ask her if she will marry you.
0:11:41 > 0:11:44What do you think you will say to her?
0:11:45 > 0:11:47Please would you like to marry me?
0:11:47 > 0:11:50If she said no, what would you do then?
0:11:52 > 0:11:55I'd say, "All right, I will try and find somebody else."
0:11:55 > 0:11:57Listen, you want to marry Gillian now
0:11:57 > 0:12:00and there is a long way to go before you do,
0:12:00 > 0:12:03or are old enough to get married, do you think you will change your mind?
0:12:03 > 0:12:06- Why not?- Because, um, I...
0:12:06 > 0:12:09We love each other, don't we?
0:12:10 > 0:12:14And we can't stop it from loving each other.
0:12:21 > 0:12:26I'm excited that I'm going but also in a way I am a bit worried
0:12:26 > 0:12:29how I am going to get on there, if it's going to be easy to
0:12:29 > 0:12:33communicate with these French people because of the different language.
0:12:33 > 0:12:38My cousin's asked me to bring a sticker for his car,
0:12:38 > 0:12:42and his sister has asked me to bring some perfume back,
0:12:42 > 0:12:46and when I found out the price of it I said, "She'll be flippin' lucky!"
0:12:46 > 0:12:49French food might be a bit different from ours.
0:12:49 > 0:12:54If they do eat things like snails' legs, I don't really mind.
0:12:54 > 0:12:56It's up to them.
0:12:56 > 0:12:59French people, I think
0:12:59 > 0:13:02they are going to look like us but a bit browner.
0:13:02 > 0:13:06I think some of them will be happy but some of them will be angry
0:13:06 > 0:13:09and when they're angry, they're absolutely horrible.
0:13:09 > 0:13:11Did you try any phrase at all?
0:13:11 > 0:13:14Parlez-vous anglais, but at the moment...
0:13:14 > 0:13:18When I was doing it, I was a bit jittery and I got it wrong!
0:13:18 > 0:13:20What did you have for lunch?
0:13:20 > 0:13:26The first course was egg mayonnaise and the second was egg and chips.
0:13:26 > 0:13:30And lastly, we had a drink of lemonade and a banana.
0:13:30 > 0:13:34- What about egg and chips? Is this what you expected?- No!
0:13:35 > 0:13:40- What did you expect, then? - French foods.- What sort of thing?
0:13:41 > 0:13:45Spaghetti Bolognese and frogs' legs and snails and all that.
0:13:45 > 0:13:49When we were in the restaurant, there was another man who was
0:13:49 > 0:13:53eating snails or something, and that didn't look very comforting.
0:13:53 > 0:13:57Where did you spend most of the afternoon in France?
0:13:57 > 0:14:01I spent it on a gun emplacement in Calais
0:14:01 > 0:14:05and when I first saw it I thought it was a monstrosity.
0:14:05 > 0:14:08It was used as a gun emplacement by the Germans
0:14:08 > 0:14:12while shelling Britain in the war, the First World War.
0:14:12 > 0:14:17- But that's 22 miles across the water, isn't it?- Yes.
0:14:17 > 0:14:20- Could the shells travel that far? - Yes, they had to.
0:14:20 > 0:14:25I don't know how the Germans done it but they found out somehow
0:14:25 > 0:14:28and they planted it just in the right spot.
0:14:28 > 0:14:31- What did you think of France? - It wasn't bad.
0:14:32 > 0:14:34Were you disappointed?
0:14:35 > 0:14:39- Yeah.- What did you find when you went there?
0:14:40 > 0:14:44I found large shops, chemists,
0:14:44 > 0:14:46all kinds of things
0:14:46 > 0:14:48but they were very good indeed.
0:14:48 > 0:14:53- What about numbers of people? - There wasn't many people there.
0:14:55 > 0:14:58There wasn't many people there at all.
0:14:58 > 0:15:02- I think there should be more people there.- What do you feel about wars?
0:15:02 > 0:15:06If a country sort of starts on another country for
0:15:06 > 0:15:10no reason at all, the other country should surely have their own back.
0:15:11 > 0:15:16But is there no way to avoid wars, to avoid fighting between nations?
0:15:16 > 0:15:20No, I don't think so because they tried to stop it
0:15:20 > 0:15:23but there are still a few fights that grow bigger and bigger
0:15:23 > 0:15:26and bigger and usually it starts as a nation war.
0:15:26 > 0:15:32- There will always be wars, do you feel?- Yes.- Are you sure?- Yes.
0:15:32 > 0:15:35I was a bit disappointed because I'm interested in birds
0:15:35 > 0:15:38and I wanted to see some French birds.
0:15:40 > 0:15:43And I thought I would see quite a lot
0:15:43 > 0:15:48because there's quite a lot in France, but I never.
0:15:48 > 0:15:52The way they talk about France is as if it's a very sunny country
0:15:52 > 0:15:55but it weren't no better from England and Scotland and Wales.
0:15:57 > 0:15:59I read a book about it saying,
0:15:59 > 0:16:02"Come to France for your holidays, for the sun."
0:16:02 > 0:16:04There weren't no sun. It was all rain!
0:16:04 > 0:16:07- Would you like to go back to France again?- I don't think so.
0:16:07 > 0:16:09I might, if I have to.
0:16:12 > 0:16:14What causes these dreams?
0:16:14 > 0:16:16Well, it's in your subconscious
0:16:16 > 0:16:20because some time in the day something has happened.
0:16:21 > 0:16:26And well, at night-time when you go to bed, you remember it
0:16:26 > 0:16:31and it comes out the subconscious in the form of a dream.
0:16:31 > 0:16:35Tell me about these dreams that you have.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37Well, sometimes you start off
0:16:37 > 0:16:40and you're on a cliff. Once I had a dream
0:16:40 > 0:16:43and I was clinging onto it all the time and I was so scared, terrified
0:16:43 > 0:16:45and I was falling,
0:16:45 > 0:16:47and as I was falling, in my sleep, I was screaming.
0:16:47 > 0:16:51My brother woke me up. I'm always having dreams, all the time.
0:16:51 > 0:16:53It makes my eyes water.
0:16:53 > 0:16:55What sort of dreams do you have?
0:16:55 > 0:16:59- They're not dreams, they're nightmares.- Oh?
0:16:59 > 0:17:04They're horror ones, because I have the horror ones when
0:17:04 > 0:17:06they are the night when there has been
0:17:06 > 0:17:09Frankensteins on and everything.
0:17:09 > 0:17:11And I've been under the cushion!
0:17:11 > 0:17:14Why'd you think they call them nightmares?
0:17:14 > 0:17:15I haven't thought of that yet.
0:17:15 > 0:17:18I know about the "night" because it's in the night
0:17:18 > 0:17:20but I don't know about the "mares" yet.
0:17:20 > 0:17:24When you dreaming this one about falling, how frightening is it?
0:17:24 > 0:17:26What do you think of?
0:17:26 > 0:17:31It's just like falling all the time and you sort of jump in your bed,
0:17:31 > 0:17:34and my heart was pounding all the time.
0:17:34 > 0:17:36Oh, it was scary!
0:17:36 > 0:17:39Do you ever have any horrible dreams?
0:17:39 > 0:17:42- Yes.- What about? ALL:- Dracula.
0:17:42 > 0:17:44Dracula?
0:17:44 > 0:17:48- Yes, they are horrible. - Dracula, he suck up your blood.
0:17:48 > 0:17:54- He's got very long teeth.- Oh, yeah. Do you dream about him?
0:17:55 > 0:17:59- And what happens? What does Dracula do?- He suck up your blood.
0:17:59 > 0:18:03- He bites you here on your neck. - And suck up your blood.
0:18:03 > 0:18:07- Do you ever have dreams? BOTH:- Yes.
0:18:07 > 0:18:11- What about?- Ghosts. His is about a...
0:18:11 > 0:18:15- Cow.- A cow? What sort of cow do you dream about?
0:18:16 > 0:18:21- A wicked cow. - Why is it a wicked cow?
0:18:21 > 0:18:23It kills people.
0:18:23 > 0:18:26- How does it do that?- It bites them.
0:18:27 > 0:18:30Do you think dreams ever come true?
0:18:30 > 0:18:33Do you think what you dream ever really happens?
0:18:34 > 0:18:36When does it?
0:18:36 > 0:18:42It happens when... What Andrew said, he said he dreams of his tooth.
0:18:42 > 0:18:45I dreamt of my tooth and it came out.
0:18:45 > 0:18:47What do you think makes you dream?
0:18:47 > 0:18:51Every night when I go to sleep I have cheese for supper
0:18:51 > 0:18:55and it makes me dream because it lays on my chest.
0:18:55 > 0:18:58How do you know it's the cheese that does it?
0:18:58 > 0:19:00Because that's the only time I get nightmares.
0:19:00 > 0:19:04And how do think cheese can make you dream?
0:19:04 > 0:19:06Don't know.
0:19:06 > 0:19:10- Do you stop eating cheese? - No.- Why not?
0:19:12 > 0:19:16Cos my mum doesn't cook anything else except cheese on toast
0:19:16 > 0:19:18at night.
0:19:24 > 0:19:28What about you three? Supposing you had a lot of money to buy books
0:19:28 > 0:19:32to put into the library, what kind of books would you buy?
0:19:32 > 0:19:38Books about poor people and how to help them and how to raise
0:19:38 > 0:19:40money for them,
0:19:40 > 0:19:44because there's thousands of poor people in other lands,
0:19:44 > 0:19:50for instance, in Africa and India and hot places like that, and...
0:19:51 > 0:19:53..you should help them.
0:19:53 > 0:19:56- Do you ever read in bed?- A lot.
0:19:56 > 0:20:01- Every night, in fact. - What does your mother say about this?
0:20:01 > 0:20:05My mum doesn't like it because we keep on talking
0:20:05 > 0:20:08and she says it wastes the electricity.
0:20:08 > 0:20:11What sort of books do you get out of the library?
0:20:11 > 0:20:15- First-aid.- What?- First-aid.
0:20:15 > 0:20:17- Just first-aid books?- Yes.
0:20:17 > 0:20:21- Don't you ever read anything else? - No.
0:20:21 > 0:20:24Why do you read first-aid books all the time?
0:20:24 > 0:20:27Because I want to be a nurse and get in football matches free!
0:20:29 > 0:20:33Can you give me an example of bad sportsmanship that you have seen?
0:20:33 > 0:20:36Yes, once when I was... I'm in the netball team and I'm the shooter.
0:20:36 > 0:20:39We were playing against Sacred Hearts
0:20:39 > 0:20:42and we was taking the team and we thought, "Oh, heck,
0:20:42 > 0:20:43"these will be good sports,"
0:20:43 > 0:20:46and we expected a lot of things from them
0:20:46 > 0:20:49but it was just the opposite and when we started playing,
0:20:49 > 0:20:51they were running into the circle and everything
0:20:51 > 0:20:55and doing everything wrong, and the end score was 8-7
0:20:55 > 0:20:58but they let them have two minutes extra
0:20:58 > 0:21:01and they'd got two girls and so we would have won 7-6
0:21:01 > 0:21:04and so we lost 8-7, and I don't think that was fair at all.
0:21:04 > 0:21:09Everybody likes to win but some people want to win the whole time.
0:21:09 > 0:21:13What do you think of people like that, who want to win the whole time?
0:21:13 > 0:21:15I think they're selfish!
0:21:15 > 0:21:18Do you ever race against each other?
0:21:18 > 0:21:21- Sometimes, not very often. - Who wins?- Usually me!
0:21:21 > 0:21:25- And you still stayed friends? BOTH:- Yes.
0:21:25 > 0:21:27Would you ever trip up your best friend to stop him winning?
0:21:27 > 0:21:30I wouldn't. Not sure about him!
0:21:31 > 0:21:34I think I would if I was desperate for the prize,
0:21:34 > 0:21:38if it was a nice prize I would, but if it wasn't, I wouldn't.
0:21:38 > 0:21:41It's not a nice thing to do, is it, to trip him up?
0:21:41 > 0:21:45Well, not really, but I would do it if I was desperate for it.
0:21:45 > 0:21:49- Do you think you would stay friends after that?- Um... Probably.
0:21:49 > 0:21:52He would make up to me after that, yes.
0:21:52 > 0:21:56How many people do you think use unfair means and cheat sometimes?
0:21:57 > 0:22:00- Less than a 16th, I would have said.- About 10%.
0:22:02 > 0:22:05- 10% of people are cheats. - Not all the time.
0:22:05 > 0:22:13About 7% of these 10% don't cheat so badly, not properly
0:22:13 > 0:22:17and the 3% that is left cheat all the time.
0:22:17 > 0:22:22What sort of people are they? Who are they, do you think?
0:22:22 > 0:22:26- Well, they steal.- They steal and burgle and murder people.
0:22:26 > 0:22:29Have people like that got any conscience?
0:22:31 > 0:22:33Not much, otherwise they couldn't do it.
0:22:33 > 0:22:36The biggest conscience I ever had was two days ago
0:22:36 > 0:22:40- when my guinea pig died. - Your guinea pig died?- Yes.
0:22:40 > 0:22:42Why did you have a conscience about that?
0:22:42 > 0:22:44Well, I wasn't feeding him properly.
0:22:44 > 0:22:48We did have the food to feed him but I wasn't feeding him rightly.
0:22:48 > 0:22:51How long do you think you will blame yourself for?
0:22:51 > 0:22:53I think I will get over it quite soon.
0:22:53 > 0:22:56You know you can get to the top by being a bad sport,
0:22:56 > 0:22:58by doing unfair things?
0:22:58 > 0:23:02Yes, but you can't really achieve anything, then,
0:23:02 > 0:23:03just by fiddling,
0:23:03 > 0:23:08but if you can do it fairly then you have really achieved something.
0:23:08 > 0:23:10How do you think grown-ups fiddle?
0:23:12 > 0:23:14Well, tax people and that.
0:23:14 > 0:23:17They take more money than they should from the people.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20And then leaves the people with no money at all.
0:23:20 > 0:23:25- How much does that matter, do you think?- It matters a lot, really.
0:23:25 > 0:23:28The people who are being robbed can't enjoy life as much,
0:23:28 > 0:23:31can they, cos they can't buy things that they want to
0:23:31 > 0:23:33to make life pleasant.
0:23:36 > 0:23:42God made one person and then he made another man and woman
0:23:42 > 0:23:46and then they made some more children,
0:23:46 > 0:23:49then they made another man and a woman
0:23:49 > 0:23:54and then it come to a world like this that I'm born in and that.
0:23:54 > 0:23:56But why did all this happen?
0:23:56 > 0:23:58Why should there be a world, do you think?
0:23:58 > 0:24:04Well, so they can make everything look pretty and nice
0:24:04 > 0:24:09and coloured cars and flowers and trees and that
0:24:09 > 0:24:12and swimming pools and that.
0:24:12 > 0:24:14And what is wrong, then, with this world?
0:24:14 > 0:24:17Why isn't it like it should be?
0:24:17 > 0:24:22- Well, because Satan, he came and made everything bad.- What's bad?
0:24:22 > 0:24:26Well, we shouldn't have had school and things like that!
0:24:26 > 0:24:29- Who put us here? BOTH:- God.
0:24:29 > 0:24:31He did it in seven days.
0:24:31 > 0:24:37- That's what we think.- Yes, but each day for him was 1,000 years.
0:24:37 > 0:24:41And so that's how the dinosaurs came to reign for a long time.
0:24:41 > 0:24:46When he was making Adam and Eve, the dinosaurs were
0:24:46 > 0:24:50the kings of the Earth. And they ruled it.
0:24:51 > 0:24:57The terriblest one of the lot was the Tyrannosaurus rex.
0:24:57 > 0:25:00Why were people put on the Earth?
0:25:00 > 0:25:05Well, God probably didn't have anything to do so he thought up us.
0:25:06 > 0:25:09What made him think up us, though, do you think?
0:25:11 > 0:25:13Well... Um...
0:25:13 > 0:25:16He probably didn't know why he was there
0:25:16 > 0:25:21so he thought he would make little miniatures of himself
0:25:21 > 0:25:26and put them on this little part which is spinning away from the sun.
0:25:26 > 0:25:29Why do think people follow Satan?
0:25:29 > 0:25:32Well, because he says he will make the world greater than Jesus
0:25:32 > 0:25:35and Jehovah can.
0:25:35 > 0:25:39And when people believe Satan, what happens to them?
0:25:39 > 0:25:41What becomes of them?
0:25:41 > 0:25:44Well, they become bad.
0:25:44 > 0:25:46How do they become bad?
0:25:46 > 0:25:51- Well, instead of having light, they have darkness.- Hmm.
0:25:51 > 0:25:56And they have these ulcers on their feet and even though they do
0:25:56 > 0:26:00want to be in the light, they won't come out of the darkness.
0:26:00 > 0:26:04- What do they have on their feet? - Big ulcers.
0:26:04 > 0:26:06How do they get those?
0:26:06 > 0:26:08Well, because they're bad.
0:26:08 > 0:26:10Do you think life is worthwhile?
0:26:10 > 0:26:13No, because I've got a brother, a naughty brother!
0:26:13 > 0:26:16- What is wrong with your brother? - He's always hitting me.
0:26:16 > 0:26:18Does it spoil your life?
0:26:18 > 0:26:23Because when I want to do my work, he keeps on messing it up.
0:26:23 > 0:26:26What do you think of the world as it is now?
0:26:26 > 0:26:29A nice, wonderful, lovely place,
0:26:29 > 0:26:32with lovely flowers and lovely things in it.
0:26:34 > 0:26:37- Isn't there anything nasty about it? - No, not about the world.
0:26:37 > 0:26:39There is with people, though.
0:26:39 > 0:26:43How would you describe the people that there are in the world now?
0:26:44 > 0:26:46I don't know.
0:26:46 > 0:26:51Most of them are nice but some of them are a bit of an old bag!
0:26:51 > 0:26:55- What do you mean? - Well, they've got bad tempers.
0:26:57 > 0:26:58My dad, I think, is one of them.
0:27:00 > 0:27:03Do you think most people are happy or unhappy?
0:27:03 > 0:27:06- Yeah, I reckon they are happy. - I think they're unhappy.
0:27:06 > 0:27:11You don't agree with each other? Why not? Why do you think they're happy?
0:27:11 > 0:27:14Well, some people enjoy life, you know, going places.
0:27:14 > 0:27:18Yeah, but there's earthquakes and they lose their mothers
0:27:18 > 0:27:19and all that.
0:27:19 > 0:27:23- Well... - Well, that's an awful life, innit?
0:27:23 > 0:27:28- What is the best thing you want to do with your life?- Get married.
0:27:28 > 0:27:33Have ten children, all in five twins. Girl, boy, girl, boy,
0:27:33 > 0:27:36girl, boy, and so on, like that!
0:27:36 > 0:27:39- Will it happen, do you think? - I hope so.