Missing Dad

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0:00:05 > 0:00:06My name's Flynn.

0:00:08 > 0:00:11I was four years old when my dad went to prison.

0:00:15 > 0:00:19Prison is a place where people go when they've done something wrong.

0:00:20 > 0:00:22It's not a nice place to be.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25It has high walls...

0:00:26 > 0:00:28..barbed wire...

0:00:29 > 0:00:31..and all of the doors are locked.

0:00:37 > 0:00:39My name's Tala.

0:00:39 > 0:00:42When my dad comes out of prison, I'll be 14 years old.

0:00:45 > 0:00:47My dad doesn't have a bedroom, he has a cell.

0:00:49 > 0:00:52He has to spend a lot of time alone in there.

0:00:53 > 0:00:55But he puts my cards around his bed.

0:01:00 > 0:01:04Lots of children who have parents in prison don't tell anyone.

0:01:04 > 0:01:07I want to be honest about it,

0:01:07 > 0:01:10because there's nothing really to be ashamed of, is there?

0:01:12 > 0:01:15I wish people would understand...

0:01:17 > 0:01:19..what it's like to have a dad in prison.

0:01:44 > 0:01:50Hello, today I'm getting ready to play football at my tournament.

0:01:50 > 0:01:53I'm feeling a bit anxious, worried.

0:01:53 > 0:01:56I'm feeling very excited, as well.

0:01:59 > 0:02:03I think Dad would want to be here with me,

0:02:03 > 0:02:07because he's never seen me play football in a real football match.

0:02:15 > 0:02:17Feed four, Wilf, if you can.

0:02:19 > 0:02:21Go!

0:02:21 > 0:02:23THEY YELL

0:02:24 > 0:02:28I really like football, and I play five times a week.

0:02:30 > 0:02:34The worst thing about Dad being in prison is Dad not being there

0:02:34 > 0:02:35to cheer me on.

0:02:37 > 0:02:40My mum and my big sister, Maisie, are always there.

0:02:40 > 0:02:43But it's not really the same without Dad.

0:02:43 > 0:02:46We did, kind of, everything together.

0:02:46 > 0:02:51And I think that shows that we were really close.

0:02:52 > 0:02:54Smiles, everybody.

0:03:02 > 0:03:03Hi, Dad.

0:03:03 > 0:03:09So, today, me, Mum, and Maisie are at the beach.

0:03:09 > 0:03:11It's a really nice day.

0:03:11 > 0:03:14I have decided to start making little videos for Dad,

0:03:14 > 0:03:17so he can watch the videos when he comes home.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20MUSIC: Pompeii by Bastille

0:03:28 > 0:03:29How does she do that?!

0:03:33 > 0:03:35Flynn, I left the towels at home.

0:03:35 > 0:03:37Oh, my word. You didn't!

0:03:37 > 0:03:40- I did. I forgot the towels. - Oh, my God.

0:03:42 > 0:03:45Here is Maisie-roo, ready to go for a swim, also.

0:03:45 > 0:03:49One in seven children have a parent in prison at some point in their

0:03:49 > 0:03:51lives, but you never hear it spoken about.

0:03:51 > 0:03:53It's just a big secret.

0:03:56 > 0:04:01We'll be coming up to 2,295 days since Dad was arrested,

0:04:01 > 0:04:03which is a really long time.

0:04:04 > 0:04:09Cos that's when everything went downhill at school, and I got like

0:04:09 > 0:04:11depressed and anxious, and everything,

0:04:11 > 0:04:16and went from being the happy, popular girl to being

0:04:16 > 0:04:19the girl that just sat there, and did nothing.

0:04:26 > 0:04:31Me and Dad had a really good relationship...

0:04:31 > 0:04:33HE SCREAMS

0:04:33 > 0:04:36..when he went to prison, that kind of broke.

0:04:38 > 0:04:42My dad's prison sentence is 24 years.

0:04:44 > 0:04:47Yeah, we're expecting him to do 12 years.

0:04:47 > 0:04:49Something to do with drugs.

0:04:54 > 0:04:59It's really difficult to think of your dad sat there behind bars,

0:04:59 > 0:05:00or whatever,

0:05:00 > 0:05:02in that tiny room.

0:05:06 > 0:05:08I like to wear my dad's clothes quite a lot.

0:05:10 > 0:05:13Just to make me feel closer to him, or whatever.

0:05:14 > 0:05:17Just makes me feel like he's there with me all the time.

0:05:29 > 0:05:31OK.

0:05:32 > 0:05:33OK, go!

0:05:38 > 0:05:40Like that? OK.

0:05:41 > 0:05:44My name's Tala, and I live in London.

0:05:44 > 0:05:46And...

0:05:46 > 0:05:48This is my dog, Ruby.

0:05:49 > 0:05:54Everyone thinks she's a puppy, but she's actually ten.

0:05:55 > 0:05:58I think she kind of misses my dad,

0:05:58 > 0:06:01because she's been slightly strange lately,

0:06:01 > 0:06:03because she's been shaking a lot.

0:06:05 > 0:06:08Dad's been in prison for nearly a year now.

0:06:11 > 0:06:15But he doesn't want me to be really sad, because then he's sad.

0:06:19 > 0:06:21So, what do you say when friends ask you what your dad's done,

0:06:21 > 0:06:23or why he's in prison?

0:06:23 > 0:06:27I say that it's to do with taxes,

0:06:27 > 0:06:30but they think that he's stolen money from the government.

0:06:30 > 0:06:34Mm-hmm. And your friends understand that?

0:06:34 > 0:06:35Yeah, they pretty much understand it,

0:06:35 > 0:06:37cos they know it's a bit more complicated.

0:06:37 > 0:06:39It's really hard to put into words.

0:06:39 > 0:06:41Mm-hmm, I find it really hard to understand,

0:06:41 > 0:06:43and I find it hard to tell my friends.

0:06:43 > 0:06:45Yeah.

0:06:46 > 0:06:48This is my mum and my dad,

0:06:48 > 0:06:52and this was on the beach about a year before I was born.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56That I... There he is!

0:06:57 > 0:07:01- Hello, my little darling. You OK? - Hello, Daddy. Yeah, I'm fine.

0:07:01 > 0:07:06- Yeah, what are you up to?- I was just about to read your letter, erm...

0:07:06 > 0:07:09You aren't allowed a mobile phone in prison,

0:07:09 > 0:07:12so my dad calls from the prison phone every day.

0:07:12 > 0:07:14And you only get ten minutes exactly,

0:07:14 > 0:07:17but then you get cut off from him.

0:07:17 > 0:07:19Since I've been...

0:07:19 > 0:07:22- Those are our beeps? - Yeah.- I better get back, then.

0:07:22 > 0:07:25I love you so much, Daddy. I love you so much.

0:07:25 > 0:07:28Mama, if you want to say I love you. He needs to go.

0:07:40 > 0:07:44This is my prison diary.

0:07:44 > 0:07:47I usually write in it when I'm very angry sometimes.

0:07:47 > 0:07:51And it feels like I can let my feelings out into this.

0:07:53 > 0:07:57I only get to visit my dad for two hours every few weeks.

0:07:59 > 0:08:01Visiting him in prison can be quite difficult.

0:08:04 > 0:08:07You need to wait outside the gates for ages,

0:08:07 > 0:08:09and they don't care if it's raining.

0:08:09 > 0:08:11They'll just make you stay outside.

0:08:13 > 0:08:14You go in, and get searched.

0:08:14 > 0:08:16ALARM BLARES

0:08:16 > 0:08:19They check you for drugs.

0:08:19 > 0:08:22They look inside your pockets, and under your hair.

0:08:25 > 0:08:27You're not allowed to take anything in,

0:08:27 > 0:08:30because prisoners can't have anything from outside.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36You walk down a corridor, and then you see the visiting hall.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42And then he stands up, and we rush and hug him.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48There's this table between him and me,

0:08:48 > 0:08:50and he sits in this big yellow chair.

0:08:51 > 0:08:53He's only allowed to get up to say hello.

0:08:56 > 0:08:58I don't want to be in a noisy visiting hall,

0:08:58 > 0:09:00with guards watching our every move.

0:09:02 > 0:09:04They won't let me be alone with him.

0:09:06 > 0:09:09It's like he's not allowed to be my dad any more.

0:09:25 > 0:09:28We were like best friends.

0:09:33 > 0:09:37On the weekends, we would be with each other most of the time.

0:09:37 > 0:09:39Like, I miss him a lot.

0:09:41 > 0:09:43I sleep with Daddy's scarf.

0:09:45 > 0:09:50I, kind of, just hug the scarf, and I just think about him,

0:09:50 > 0:09:53kind of, say goodnight in my mind to him.

0:09:54 > 0:09:56MUSIC: Stubborn Love by The Lumineers

0:10:05 > 0:10:09Hey, guys. So, me and Willow are just playing football today.

0:10:09 > 0:10:13- Willow, my niece. Hello, Willow.- Hi!

0:10:13 > 0:10:15I thought we should just video this,

0:10:15 > 0:10:18cos I wanted it to be a memory for Dad.

0:10:18 > 0:10:20Nice!

0:10:20 > 0:10:21HE LAUGHS

0:10:25 > 0:10:28Me and Maisie are looking through the videos for Dad.

0:10:28 > 0:10:30Happy birthday, Flynn.

0:10:33 > 0:10:35Oh, my word.

0:10:35 > 0:10:38Unwrap it, then, while Dad's on the phone.

0:10:38 > 0:10:39Happy birthday!

0:10:39 > 0:10:41There's no internet in prison,

0:10:41 > 0:10:43so Dad won't get to see these until he comes home.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49- Thank you.- Sweet stuff, then.

0:10:49 > 0:10:51I'll be 16 by then.

0:10:53 > 0:10:54THEY LAUGH

0:10:55 > 0:10:58Hey, told you!

0:10:58 > 0:11:00- Show it to Dad, then.- That is red.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02Show us the gap.

0:11:02 > 0:11:05And then there's the tooth, with the blood in it.

0:11:05 > 0:11:08- Oh, look at it.- Yeah, I know.

0:11:08 > 0:11:10- Oh, lovely. I'll just zoom out. - It's very juicy.

0:11:12 > 0:11:15Dad definitely needs to see this.

0:11:15 > 0:11:17Let's not!

0:11:17 > 0:11:19Right, so it's Saturday morning.

0:11:19 > 0:11:21I'm on my way to football.

0:11:26 > 0:11:29This is Wilf. He's my best friend.

0:11:29 > 0:11:31He's my best friend at school, and at football.

0:11:34 > 0:11:39I don't think we'll really survive in life if we don't have friends

0:11:39 > 0:11:40to help us.

0:11:42 > 0:11:43We're best friends in class.

0:11:43 > 0:11:45We always laugh at each other.

0:11:45 > 0:11:50Because my dad's not really here, Wilf, like, kind of

0:11:50 > 0:11:51lends his dad to me.

0:11:53 > 0:11:54Mike's really nice.

0:11:54 > 0:11:56He's lovely.

0:11:56 > 0:11:57He's always really kind to me.

0:12:01 > 0:12:04What's it like when your dad isn't here?

0:12:05 > 0:12:08It's... I don't... It's hard to explain.

0:12:08 > 0:12:11- I don't really like it. - It's, like, you need your dad.

0:12:11 > 0:12:13Yeah, all the time.

0:12:16 > 0:12:19Does my dad cheer you on when you're playing football when you've scored

0:12:19 > 0:12:21- or anything?- Yeah.

0:12:21 > 0:12:25But there's a difference, though.

0:12:25 > 0:12:27Your dad doesn't give me hugs.

0:12:45 > 0:12:47PHONE RINGS

0:12:49 > 0:12:51- Hello, son, how's it going? - Good, thank you, you?

0:12:51 > 0:12:54Yeah, I'm well, mate. How did you get on with footie today?

0:12:54 > 0:12:56- Good.- Did you score any?

0:12:56 > 0:12:59No, I was so close to scoring a lot.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04Usually, I don't really speak about Dad being in prison,

0:13:04 > 0:13:07because I'm worried people will judge me

0:13:07 > 0:13:09and I won't be able to make new friends.

0:13:13 > 0:13:17People will think, "Oh, they've done something bad.

0:13:18 > 0:13:20"You don't want to be friends with them."

0:13:23 > 0:13:28It's silly, because you shouldn't judge someone by where they are

0:13:28 > 0:13:33or what happened to them. You should judge them by their personality.

0:13:36 > 0:13:40There was definitely a gossipy feeling, because it was everywhere,

0:13:40 > 0:13:43all over the news, all in the newspapers,

0:13:43 > 0:13:45social media and everything.

0:13:45 > 0:13:48People will say, "Oh, they should've thought about it

0:13:48 > 0:13:49"before they committed the crime,"

0:13:49 > 0:13:53but people do have flaws, and things do just happen sometimes.

0:13:55 > 0:13:57I wish other people would understand...

0:13:59 > 0:14:01..not all people in prison are bad.

0:14:05 > 0:14:07PHONE RINGS

0:14:13 > 0:14:14Hello.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17- Hello, Flynn boy. - Hello, Daddy.

0:14:18 > 0:14:20- How are you, mate? - Good, thank you. you?

0:14:20 > 0:14:23- Yeah, all right, did you have a good day?- Yeah.

0:14:23 > 0:14:25- What are you doing tomorrow? - I've got a

0:14:25 > 0:14:29- football tournament, haven't I? - Yeah, of course you've got football.

0:14:29 > 0:14:30There's a Grand Prix tomorrow as well.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33- Who do you want to win?- Hamilton.

0:14:33 > 0:14:35Yeah! Lewis Hamilton, eh?

0:14:35 > 0:14:37- Yep. - HIS DAD LAUGHS

0:14:37 > 0:14:40- All right, then, mate. I'll say night-night, yeah?- Yeah.

0:14:42 > 0:14:43Bless you, see you in the morning.

0:14:43 > 0:14:46I love you to the moon and back a hundred million trillion times.

0:14:46 > 0:14:48I love you. God bless you, see you in the morning.

0:14:48 > 0:14:50I love you to the moon and back one hundred million trillion times.

0:14:50 > 0:14:53- God bless you, see you in the morning.- I love you, boy.

0:14:53 > 0:14:55Just remember, you're the man of the house while I'm not around,

0:14:55 > 0:14:58- and you've got to look after them girls, haven't you?- Yeah.

0:15:01 > 0:15:04I always get dreams that he's coming home.

0:15:05 > 0:15:10He's waking me up and stuff, but that never happens.

0:15:13 > 0:15:21But Mum brings all of the happiness and joy into our house.

0:15:21 > 0:15:25I try to look after Mum, but sometimes

0:15:25 > 0:15:27I'm extra loving with Mum because...

0:15:29 > 0:15:33..Dad was her husband, and is her husband, and...

0:15:35 > 0:15:36..she hasn't got him around.

0:15:39 > 0:15:42Sometimes, you just need a bit of dad advice or whatever,

0:15:42 > 0:15:44and time to spend with your dad,

0:15:44 > 0:15:47so it's that stuff that people take for granted,

0:15:47 > 0:15:50just being able to talk to their dad about stuff.

0:15:50 > 0:15:55I try to help Mum out as much as I can, but I'm a teenage girl.

0:15:55 > 0:15:57I've got limitations.

0:15:57 > 0:16:01I just want a normal life and spend time with my friends or whatever.

0:16:04 > 0:16:06Whose job is it to worry?

0:16:06 > 0:16:07- Yours.- It's not the kids' jobs to worry,

0:16:07 > 0:16:10it's the grown-ups' job to worry, isn't it?

0:16:10 > 0:16:15So don't you do the worrying. Your job is to be a ten-year-old boy.

0:16:16 > 0:16:20Yeah? And just be my Flynn, and for Maisie to be Maisie, not worry.

0:16:20 > 0:16:24- Yeah.- I'm the grown-up. Even if I don't act like it sometimes,

0:16:24 > 0:16:25I'm the grown-up.

0:16:27 > 0:16:30# Just a young gun with a quick fuse

0:16:30 > 0:16:34# I was uptight, wanna let loose. #

0:16:34 > 0:16:38250,000 children have a parent in prison.

0:16:38 > 0:16:41I think lots of the children don't talk about it.

0:16:41 > 0:16:42# Thunder, thunder

0:16:42 > 0:16:44# Thunder

0:16:44 > 0:16:47# Thunder, thunder, thunder

0:16:47 > 0:16:49# Thunder, thunder. #

0:16:50 > 0:16:53This is my big sister, Erica.

0:16:53 > 0:16:56# Thunder, feel the thunder

0:16:56 > 0:16:58# Lightning and the thunder. #

0:16:58 > 0:17:00I'm going to make my diary into a blog

0:17:00 > 0:17:04so that other children with parents in prison don't feel alone.

0:17:05 > 0:17:07Erica's helping me with my blog.

0:17:09 > 0:17:13This is the photo that I've chosen to be the main picture for the blog.

0:17:15 > 0:17:17It was on the last morning.

0:17:17 > 0:17:19Nice. You look really happy.

0:17:19 > 0:17:23Yeah, I was. Because I was just kind of... I wasn't...

0:17:23 > 0:17:27I didn't want to be sad because it's the last morning I had with him.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30What would you want them to feel when they read your blog?

0:17:30 > 0:17:31I don't know. That...

0:17:32 > 0:17:35..it's like, it's nothing to be embarrassed about,

0:17:35 > 0:17:38because they should know that it's fine to tell people.

0:17:39 > 0:17:41My name is Tala and...

0:17:42 > 0:17:46- ..my dad's in prison, and this is my prison blog.- Yeah.

0:17:48 > 0:17:51- Do you know how to spell blog? - Yeah.- Yeah. Good.

0:17:53 > 0:17:58The guards won't let me stay with my own father.

0:17:58 > 0:17:59It's almost like...

0:18:00 > 0:18:02..he's not allowed to be my dad any more.

0:18:05 > 0:18:11Hopefully, other children, like, feel that they can

0:18:11 > 0:18:15talk about it, and they shouldn't be, like, ashamed or anything.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17It feels better when it's not a secret.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21You feel like someone knows and knows what you're going through

0:18:21 > 0:18:23and then will help you.

0:18:29 > 0:18:32When my dad first left, I asked what was happening.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35My mum was still in shock.

0:18:35 > 0:18:38She said, "Some people think that your daddy has stolen some money."

0:18:38 > 0:18:40"So, is he going to prison?"

0:18:40 > 0:18:44I was just joking, but when my mum said yes, I froze.

0:18:44 > 0:18:47I felt like my heart had shattered into a thousand pieces.

0:18:52 > 0:18:54Oh, look. Can you relate to this?

0:18:54 > 0:18:57"I felt like my heart had shattered into a thousand pieces."

0:18:58 > 0:18:59Yeah.

0:19:01 > 0:19:04So now you found this blog, how does that make you feel?

0:19:04 > 0:19:06Obviously, you're not alone.

0:19:06 > 0:19:08Yeah, so there's someone else that...

0:19:09 > 0:19:11..can relate to everything, can't they?

0:19:11 > 0:19:14- She's not keeping it in, is she? - No.

0:19:14 > 0:19:18It brought my confidence up, so I can go and actually tell

0:19:18 > 0:19:23other people, apart from just telling you.

0:19:23 > 0:19:24So you're doing OK.

0:19:24 > 0:19:26You should be proud of yourself.

0:19:28 > 0:19:29Because we are, we're proud of you.

0:19:56 > 0:19:59I'm about to see my dad and I'm really excited,

0:19:59 > 0:20:01because I haven't seen him in three weeks.

0:20:02 > 0:20:04It's not very nice here.

0:20:05 > 0:20:09But that doesn't matter, because I just want to see my dad.

0:20:25 > 0:20:28Here comes Steve! Here's Steve!

0:20:28 > 0:20:30This is my friend, Sid.

0:20:30 > 0:20:33He's in the same school as me, but he's the year above me.

0:20:37 > 0:20:40I gave this card to you because you're having a hard time

0:20:40 > 0:20:43- while your dad's in prison.- Thank you, Sid.

0:20:44 > 0:20:47Do you ever, like, feel brave...

0:20:49 > 0:20:51..or do you feel, like, shy when you go to school,

0:20:51 > 0:20:53that your dad's in prison?

0:20:53 > 0:20:55Well...

0:20:56 > 0:20:59Sometimes you just forget about it and...

0:20:59 > 0:21:01- You just carry on.- Yeah, you just carry on like a normal life,

0:21:01 > 0:21:07but then you know that your life isn't a normal life.

0:21:08 > 0:21:10Then sometimes,

0:21:10 > 0:21:14you just pretend they're here with you and just sit on the sofa,

0:21:14 > 0:21:17just thinking, not doing anything,

0:21:17 > 0:21:19just thinking that they're here with you.

0:21:27 > 0:21:31What's the prison like when you go to prison?

0:21:31 > 0:21:35Well, there's strange people just watching you saying hello

0:21:35 > 0:21:38to your dad, and you're just like,

0:21:38 > 0:21:40"Why are you watching us?

0:21:40 > 0:21:41"Why do you need to watch us?

0:21:41 > 0:21:43"Can we not have anything private?"

0:21:45 > 0:21:47I do not want him to stay at prison.

0:21:47 > 0:21:51I really want him to come back so he can like come and watch me

0:21:51 > 0:21:53play football.

0:21:53 > 0:21:54I'm always here when you need me.

0:21:56 > 0:21:58It feels good to talk to you about him.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01Now I've been keeping it in all this while...

0:22:02 > 0:22:07..and now you've come and asked me these questions, it's like...

0:22:07 > 0:22:10I've got no more worries any more.

0:22:11 > 0:22:14That picture's funny. That's good.

0:22:20 > 0:22:22I'm really excited about today

0:22:22 > 0:22:26because today we've got a special family visit,

0:22:26 > 0:22:31and Dad gets to walk around, play with us, out of his seat.

0:22:34 > 0:22:40We're literally just pulling up to the prison,

0:22:40 > 0:22:43and I've got butterflies in my tummy.

0:22:48 > 0:22:50You can't take anything into prison.

0:22:50 > 0:22:53I wish we could take the camera, but we can't.

0:22:55 > 0:23:00# Mister Blue Sky, please tell us why you had to hide away

0:23:00 > 0:23:01# For so long?

0:23:01 > 0:23:03# So long... #

0:23:06 > 0:23:07DOOR SLAMS

0:23:24 > 0:23:26Today was very exciting...

0:23:27 > 0:23:29..because I got to see my dad.

0:23:31 > 0:23:34I was really happy to see him and I was just, like,

0:23:34 > 0:23:35with him all the time.

0:23:37 > 0:23:39I told my dad about my blog,

0:23:39 > 0:23:43and he said it was really good that I was influencing other people

0:23:43 > 0:23:46and letting them know that they're not the only ones.

0:23:48 > 0:23:51It made me feel really happy because he was proud of me.

0:23:59 > 0:24:03Today was really different, compared to a normal visit,

0:24:03 > 0:24:06because normally we only have two-and-a-half hour visits,

0:24:06 > 0:24:09but today we actually had six-hour visit.

0:24:09 > 0:24:12Dad got to, like, walk around with us and play with me.

0:24:14 > 0:24:21Dad gave me like a tickle and, like, he never normally tickled me,

0:24:21 > 0:24:22because he's not allowed to.

0:24:24 > 0:24:28Today was the first hot meal we shared with Dad

0:24:28 > 0:24:31in seven and a bit years.

0:24:31 > 0:24:33Me having a meat pie and him having chicken.

0:24:35 > 0:24:40And, yeah, it felt quite strange, because, like,

0:24:40 > 0:24:43I don't really have a memory of eating with Dad.

0:24:44 > 0:24:49I don't know how to really explain how hard it is to say goodbye

0:24:49 > 0:24:54because I don't think many people have just had to say goodbye for...

0:24:56 > 0:24:57..that, something like that.

0:24:59 > 0:25:03When we say goodbye, normally, it's like, just one person at a time,

0:25:03 > 0:25:07but today we got to have like a group hug.

0:25:07 > 0:25:08It was like the old days.

0:25:13 > 0:25:19And Mum always says, "Don't worry, we're fine," and we are.

0:25:19 > 0:25:20We're always all right.

0:25:21 > 0:25:26Best thing about my family is we're all positive.

0:25:26 > 0:25:29We're all really loving, positive.

0:25:29 > 0:25:32We're all there and supportive for each other.

0:25:34 > 0:25:37I know, like, what it's like to have a parent in prison,

0:25:37 > 0:25:41and it's very tough, but, yeah, we're going to get through it.

0:26:17 > 0:26:19- Hello.- Hello.

0:26:19 > 0:26:20TALA: Hello!

0:26:20 > 0:26:25Tala, if you speak to someone, does it like make you feel better?

0:26:25 > 0:26:30My friends kind of help me along.

0:26:30 > 0:26:32Yeah, my sister really helps me as well.

0:26:34 > 0:26:36If you've got a family member in prison,

0:26:36 > 0:26:38my advice would be to stay strong,

0:26:38 > 0:26:42keep battling through it, and tell people.

0:26:42 > 0:26:45Don't keep it inside yourself.

0:26:45 > 0:26:48Tell people, but don't just tell one person

0:26:48 > 0:26:51and then keep talking to them about it.

0:26:51 > 0:26:54Yeah. But at your school, there's no-one else whose parents

0:26:54 > 0:26:56- are in prison, is there?- Yeah.

0:26:56 > 0:26:59Whereas, when you get to high school, you meet more people.

0:27:01 > 0:27:04I want people to talk to me about it...

0:27:05 > 0:27:10..because I wouldn't get upset about just talking about Dad.

0:27:10 > 0:27:11I like talking about Dad.