Episode 3

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04We all like to think we're getting a fair deal for our money,

0:00:04 > 0:00:07whether we're buying, selling or taking out a loan.

0:00:07 > 0:00:10And when times are hard it matters even more.

0:00:10 > 0:00:14But many of the deals on offer could cause you real problems.

0:00:14 > 0:00:16Some could even wreck your life.

0:00:21 > 0:00:24ALL CHANT: Say no to payday loans.

0:00:24 > 0:00:27Coming up, the controversy over payday loans -

0:00:27 > 0:00:30we look at easy credit on the high street.

0:00:30 > 0:00:31The man in the Money Shop

0:00:31 > 0:00:36just told me he's never seen a payday loan application be refused.

0:00:36 > 0:00:40How one couple's worst deal turned out to be an illegal fraud

0:00:40 > 0:00:44that left them £40,000 out of pocket.

0:00:44 > 0:00:49It was just...absolutely horrendous, every day was...was a nightmare.

0:00:49 > 0:00:53And how dealing with a loan shark can have violent consequences.

0:00:53 > 0:00:57He beat me about my head and he took the money that I had.

0:01:01 > 0:01:04With the cost of living shooting up, many of us

0:01:04 > 0:01:06are finding it increasingly difficult to make our money

0:01:06 > 0:01:09stretch to the end of each month.

0:01:09 > 0:01:12But in these times of crisis there are companies out there

0:01:12 > 0:01:15promising a great deal - or so they say.

0:01:15 > 0:01:17Wonga.com offers cash loans.

0:01:17 > 0:01:21What's refreshing about wonga.com is that YOU control the loan.

0:01:21 > 0:01:24Payday loans - as they're known - claim to provide

0:01:24 > 0:01:27a speedy solution for life's little cash emergencies.

0:01:27 > 0:01:29You can walk into the shop, or log in online,

0:01:29 > 0:01:33and within minutes the cash you need is in your pocket.

0:01:33 > 0:01:34It's so quick and simple.

0:01:34 > 0:01:37There's nothing to fax and no extra paperwork to send.

0:01:37 > 0:01:40Sounds easy. But with the highest interest rates topping

0:01:40 > 0:01:44an eye-watering 4,000% APR, payday loans have earned

0:01:44 > 0:01:48a reputation for sucking people into a spiral of debt

0:01:48 > 0:01:52and leaving many believing they're the worst deal they ever made.

0:01:52 > 0:01:55You're borrowing just before you've got paid

0:01:55 > 0:01:58so you're already spending next month's wages.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01So if you can't then pay that loan back out of next month's wages

0:02:01 > 0:02:04then you have to start borrowing from the following month's wages

0:02:04 > 0:02:07and it's very easy to get into a spiral of debt where you're just

0:02:07 > 0:02:10taking loan after loan out to pay back the previous month's debt.

0:02:12 > 0:02:16And that is exactly what happened to Richard Merritt from West London.

0:02:16 > 0:02:20Like so many of us, Richard's salary never seemed to go far enough

0:02:20 > 0:02:22and he took a series of payday loans

0:02:22 > 0:02:25and ended up thousands of pounds in debt.

0:02:25 > 0:02:28His first loan was £250

0:02:28 > 0:02:31but he then realised he needed more.

0:02:31 > 0:02:33I had to take out another one

0:02:33 > 0:02:37because I was paying back the interest on the first loan,

0:02:37 > 0:02:43which made me then short of money, erm, to pay me other bills.

0:02:43 > 0:02:47So I took out another one to cover the interest of that one.

0:02:47 > 0:02:49And...so it went on.

0:02:49 > 0:02:53The financial burden of paying off his payday loans

0:02:53 > 0:02:57meant Richard lost his flat and had to move in with his sister.

0:02:57 > 0:03:01It also means he has to cut down his household spending

0:03:01 > 0:03:02to the very minimum.

0:03:02 > 0:03:04Just the basics here.

0:03:04 > 0:03:08My weekly shop I probably get done for about £15.

0:03:10 > 0:03:13Taking a payday loan is becoming more common in the UK.

0:03:13 > 0:03:16John Fairhurst runs a free debt-management company.

0:03:16 > 0:03:20He's worried that borrowers are getting hooked on a monthly loan to tide them over,

0:03:20 > 0:03:23without realising the consequences.

0:03:23 > 0:03:26The rates of interest are many hundreds of per cent,

0:03:26 > 0:03:29which is very high if you're using these things on a regular basis.

0:03:29 > 0:03:31On a one-off basis people may consider it's a small price to pay

0:03:31 > 0:03:34for an easy process, but what we're seeing is people who

0:03:34 > 0:03:38take out multiple payday loans repeatedly, and the cost of that is extortionate.

0:03:38 > 0:03:43Over two years Richard took out ten payday loans.

0:03:43 > 0:03:46As bills came in he found he needed to go online

0:03:46 > 0:03:50and apply for a loan just to stay financially afloat.

0:03:50 > 0:03:53He took out multiple payday loans from different companies

0:03:53 > 0:03:55all at once.

0:03:55 > 0:04:01At one point, the high interest on his loans meant he had to pay £1,000 in one month

0:04:01 > 0:04:05and the payday loan companies were chasing him for payment.

0:04:05 > 0:04:07They threatened to ring me at work,

0:04:07 > 0:04:09which was sort of a bit embarrassing.

0:04:09 > 0:04:15You tell them to stop ringing you at work but they're still persistently doing it.

0:04:15 > 0:04:16Put me under a lot of stress.

0:04:16 > 0:04:21Richard turned to a free debt management service for help.

0:04:21 > 0:04:24I got in contact with them, explained my situation,

0:04:24 > 0:04:26and they were very sympathetic.

0:04:26 > 0:04:31Went through my debts with me and found out exactly how much I owed,

0:04:31 > 0:04:36which at the time was over £5,000, which was quite frightening.

0:04:36 > 0:04:41Richard borrowed from around ten different companies.

0:04:41 > 0:04:43At the point he hit real financial difficulties,

0:04:43 > 0:04:47he owed between £1,500 and £2,000.

0:04:47 > 0:04:48In a few months,

0:04:48 > 0:04:50that went up to that figure of £5,000

0:04:50 > 0:04:55because of the high interest rates and charges for the payments he missed.

0:04:55 > 0:04:58The debt-management company supported Richard

0:04:58 > 0:05:03and negotiated with the payday loan companies a monthly payment of 100,

0:05:03 > 0:05:04which Richard can afford.

0:05:04 > 0:05:07He no longer uses payday loans.

0:05:07 > 0:05:10It would be hard to find credit more expensive than a payday loan.

0:05:10 > 0:05:13If you have alternative sources of credit and you need a loan,

0:05:13 > 0:05:14then you should look there first.

0:05:14 > 0:05:19What payday loan companies should be doing is making sure they understand their customer.

0:05:19 > 0:05:23As soon as they walk into the door or come onto the website they carry out a thorough fact-find,

0:05:23 > 0:05:28they understand what other debts they've got and in some cases they turn them away.

0:05:28 > 0:05:32I definitely wouldn't recommend anybody take out a payday loan.

0:05:32 > 0:05:35It was the worst thing I ever did.

0:05:35 > 0:05:39Coming up, we visit payday loan shops on the high street

0:05:39 > 0:05:42and see what people can expect if they're tempted to apply.

0:05:42 > 0:05:48The man in the Money Shop just told me that he's never seen a payday loan application be refused.

0:05:52 > 0:05:57When you apply for a loan, the deal might involve an arrangement fee.

0:05:57 > 0:05:58It's perfectly legal.

0:05:58 > 0:06:03But some illegal companies are taking advantage of this practice,

0:06:03 > 0:06:07demanding upfront fees to arrange loans that never arrive.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10That's what happened to Colin and Julie Stoneley from Surrey.

0:06:10 > 0:06:14Since 2003 they've run a llama trekking company

0:06:14 > 0:06:17out of their rented cottage in Guildford.

0:06:17 > 0:06:19But when a local pub came up for sale,

0:06:19 > 0:06:24they thought it would be the perfect opportunity to expand the business.

0:06:24 > 0:06:28Instead it turned out to be their worst deal.

0:06:28 > 0:06:32Part of the financing involved mortgaging our house in Spain.

0:06:32 > 0:06:40So we tried various Spanish banks - remortgaging in Spain is almost unheard of -

0:06:40 > 0:06:45and eventually found an ad which was running in the Times

0:06:45 > 0:06:49and the Telegraph week after week

0:06:49 > 0:06:51for a company called Gresham Finance.

0:06:51 > 0:06:54The company had plush offices in central London

0:06:54 > 0:06:59and was headed by entrepreneur Edward Davenport.

0:06:59 > 0:07:00Colin and Julie were impressed,

0:07:00 > 0:07:04and after a meeting with Davenport's second-in-command, Peter Riley,

0:07:04 > 0:07:09they decided to borrow the extra £300,000 they needed to buy the pub.

0:07:09 > 0:07:17There was an upfront fee, as I remember, of 3,500 to start with.

0:07:17 > 0:07:22Then we paid a similar fee for something else, and we then funded

0:07:22 > 0:07:28various things, the surveyor's trip to Spain and other bits and pieces.

0:07:28 > 0:07:32You know, so...the total was about £14,000.

0:07:32 > 0:07:36With the agreement in place and the loan on its way,

0:07:36 > 0:07:40the Stoneleys handed in their notice on the cottage

0:07:40 > 0:07:43and packed up all their belongings ready for the move.

0:07:43 > 0:07:46But on the day of completion, the money didn't arrive.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49We obviously were very, very concerned about this,

0:07:49 > 0:07:55we phoned and said, "What's happening?" because we had our whole home packed up in a van,

0:07:55 > 0:07:59the people selling the pub had all their belongings packed up

0:07:59 > 0:08:03and obviously the people they were buying from were in the same position.

0:08:03 > 0:08:08Colin and Julie rang Peter Riley, the man they'd been dealing with at Gresham Finance,

0:08:08 > 0:08:11who told them that there'd been a hitch with the money,

0:08:11 > 0:08:14but it would be in their account in a couple of days.

0:08:14 > 0:08:17At that time I think we actually believed there'd been a hitch

0:08:17 > 0:08:24so at that point I don't think we felt...in danger, if you like, of anything,

0:08:24 > 0:08:26we were just a bit concerned, bit shocked.

0:08:26 > 0:08:29And the money was going to be there on Monday.

0:08:29 > 0:08:33The Stoneleys arranged to stay at a friend's house for the weekend.

0:08:33 > 0:08:37But when Monday arrived, the promised money didn't.

0:08:37 > 0:08:39We were told the money would be there on Friday,

0:08:39 > 0:08:43and then we were told the money would be there the next Friday,

0:08:43 > 0:08:47and this situation continued...

0:08:47 > 0:08:51well, it continued for three months basically,

0:08:51 > 0:08:55by which time we'd moved all our belongings into a shipping container,

0:08:55 > 0:08:58the landlord of the pub was back here running the pub,

0:08:58 > 0:09:02all the other people in the chain hadn't been able to move,

0:09:02 > 0:09:05and it was just a disaster, wasn't it, really?

0:09:05 > 0:09:08Emotionally, I think...

0:09:12 > 0:09:17..just...our whole life was just so difficult during that period.

0:09:17 > 0:09:19It was awful.

0:09:19 > 0:09:24It was only because of support from friends and family that we got through it.

0:09:25 > 0:09:31To make matters worse, the other people in the chain started chasing Colin and Julie for money,

0:09:31 > 0:09:36demanding that they pay all the extra expenses caused by the delay.

0:09:36 > 0:09:39The sort of things you're liable for. This is further up the chain.

0:09:39 > 0:09:42Lost holiday due to uncertainly of situation.

0:09:42 > 0:09:45Two lots of removals.

0:09:45 > 0:09:46Litigation costs.

0:09:48 > 0:09:49Council tax for rental property.

0:09:49 > 0:09:54- Failure to complete at the right time.- That was £10,000.

0:09:54 > 0:09:58The other finance thing we had to put in place for Spain, 6,500, and so on.

0:09:58 > 0:10:02- Interest for failing to complete. - Was another £10,000.

0:10:03 > 0:10:07The Stoneleys ended up having to pay almost £40,000 extra

0:10:07 > 0:10:12to cover fees and expenses for the other people in the chain.

0:10:12 > 0:10:18And to make matters worse they were still living in their friend's spare room with their lives on hold.

0:10:18 > 0:10:26I don't know how we got through it, to be honest, it was just absolutely horrendous, every day was a nightmare

0:10:26 > 0:10:31because you didn't know what was going to happen -

0:10:31 > 0:10:36we were facing total financial ruin, erm...

0:10:36 > 0:10:41or we were going to get the money that day and move in and everything would be all right.

0:10:41 > 0:10:43And, um...

0:10:49 > 0:10:51Yeah, it was quite tough.

0:10:51 > 0:10:55By this stage Colin and Julie were starting to get suspicious

0:10:55 > 0:10:58and decided to pay Gresham a visit.

0:10:58 > 0:11:01Well, we went up to Portland Place, where their office was,

0:11:01 > 0:11:10and we sat in the foyer all afternoon and we called Peter a few times

0:11:10 > 0:11:14and he said he was on his mobile, he was out of the office.

0:11:14 > 0:11:19At about 4:10 we rang him again on his mobile and started to climb the stairs.

0:11:19 > 0:11:22And he said, "I'm still not in the office,"

0:11:22 > 0:11:25and by this time we could actually hear his voice through the door.

0:11:25 > 0:11:27We pushed the door of his office open

0:11:27 > 0:11:34and said, as we faced him on the mobile to us, "Didn't think you were in the office, Peter."

0:11:34 > 0:11:36But even though they'd just caught him in a lie,

0:11:36 > 0:11:42once again Peter Riley managed to convince the Stoneleys that the money was on its way

0:11:42 > 0:11:47and that if they could just wait a few more days everything would be resolved.

0:11:47 > 0:11:54By this stage I think... Did we smell a rat? We weren't happy but it still seemed very plausible.

0:11:54 > 0:11:57He was extremely plausible as a conman.

0:11:57 > 0:11:59The penny finally dropped

0:11:59 > 0:12:02when Colin saw an article in Private Eye magazine

0:12:02 > 0:12:05linking Edward Davenport and the Portland Place offices

0:12:05 > 0:12:07to a suspected loan fraud.

0:12:07 > 0:12:13And that night I wrote a letter which said, "We've been promised this..."

0:12:13 > 0:12:16and I listed the various promises, and I said,

0:12:16 > 0:12:22"Unless you return our costs in full,

0:12:22 > 0:12:27"or supply the money by Friday,

0:12:27 > 0:12:34"I will go to the FSA and the police."

0:12:34 > 0:12:39And by return of post we had a cheque for £14,000.

0:12:43 > 0:12:45Which...

0:12:46 > 0:12:50..I think we were very lucky.

0:12:50 > 0:12:53Even though they got their Advance Fee back, Colin and Julie

0:12:53 > 0:12:58were still nearly £40,000 out of pocket thanks to Gresham Finance.

0:12:58 > 0:13:02And it wasn't long before the company caught the eye of the Serious Fraud Office.

0:13:02 > 0:13:06When we started investigating Gresham we found their own records showed

0:13:06 > 0:13:11that between about 2007 and 2009 there'd been up to 100 victims

0:13:11 > 0:13:18and they had lost between them up to about £4 million in just the advance fees.

0:13:18 > 0:13:24But it's not just businesspeople borrowing thousands who can fall prey to this kind of trap.

0:13:24 > 0:13:27Fraudsters will target anyone who is desperate for money,

0:13:27 > 0:13:31offering loans in return for a so-called arrangement fee,

0:13:31 > 0:13:35typically between £50 and £100.

0:13:35 > 0:13:38But once the fee's been paid, the loan never arrives.

0:13:38 > 0:13:42In fact, last year over 3,000 people complained to

0:13:42 > 0:13:47the Office of Fair Trading after getting involved with a loan scam -

0:13:47 > 0:13:51that's an increase of 50% from the year before.

0:13:51 > 0:13:55In the time of a recession this is an ideal opportunity for fraudsters to prey on victims.

0:13:55 > 0:13:58It's important to understand what you're supposed to get for your money.

0:13:58 > 0:14:01If you're borrowing from one of the high street banks

0:14:01 > 0:14:06you can be confident that if they say there's an upfront fee then that's a legitimate charge.

0:14:06 > 0:14:11But if you are in any doubt whatsoever, I would say don't pay anyone any money, be very careful,

0:14:11 > 0:14:13and know the person that you're trying to borrow from.

0:14:13 > 0:14:16Edward Davenport and Peter Riley

0:14:16 > 0:14:19were each jailed for seven years and eight months.

0:14:19 > 0:14:23It kind of gave us the justice we wanted,

0:14:23 > 0:14:27the proof that actually we weren't bad people...

0:14:28 > 0:14:33You know, because it did make us feel...like we were really bad people

0:14:33 > 0:14:38because of all the other people's lives that were affected.

0:14:38 > 0:14:42Colin and Julie eventually managed to get the funding together

0:14:42 > 0:14:45to buy the pub, although they'll never get back

0:14:45 > 0:14:48the £40,000 they had to pay out for the delay.

0:14:48 > 0:14:54It was a horrendous experience that dragged on and on for months,

0:14:54 > 0:14:59taxing on our health and horrible for everyone, emotionally,

0:14:59 > 0:15:02financially, everything. And...

0:15:03 > 0:15:09..I'm just really pleased that the people involved are behind bars for a few years.

0:15:16 > 0:15:21One of the worst deals anyone could ever make is to get involved with a loan shark.

0:15:21 > 0:15:23That's what happened to Andrew.

0:15:23 > 0:15:27That's not his real name and we've also disguised his voice.

0:15:27 > 0:15:30He borrowed £1,000 from a mysterious friend of a friend.

0:15:30 > 0:15:36It's absolutely totally wrecked my life. Shattered.

0:15:36 > 0:15:38To a million pieces.

0:15:38 > 0:15:43Andrew's problems started when his car broke down.

0:15:43 > 0:15:47With no way of getting to work, he needed cash to fix it, fast.

0:15:47 > 0:15:52But, with a large loan already in place and a poor credit rating,

0:15:52 > 0:15:55Andrew knew he couldn't borrow from the bank.

0:15:55 > 0:15:58A friend introduced him to a man who could help.

0:15:58 > 0:16:05I was very impressed. The gentleman was smartly dressed, he was extremely friendly,

0:16:05 > 0:16:08he sympathised with my situation

0:16:08 > 0:16:11and I thought what a...

0:16:13 > 0:16:16I thought what a really nice guy he was.

0:16:16 > 0:16:19Andrew borrowed £1,000,

0:16:19 > 0:16:25and agreed to pay back £2,000 in instalments of £150 a week.

0:16:25 > 0:16:28He was told, if he missed a payment, that was OK,

0:16:28 > 0:16:31it would just double up the following week.

0:16:31 > 0:16:38As far as I was concerned what it meant was that, if I didn't pay him the 150 quid on that particular week,

0:16:38 > 0:16:43he would accept a higher payment the following week.

0:16:43 > 0:16:47The man told Andrew that each week he should expect a call from a withheld number.

0:16:47 > 0:16:51The caller would give him a codename and tell him

0:16:51 > 0:16:53when and where to bring the repayment.

0:16:53 > 0:16:58I knew it was not 100% legitimate but I couldn't do anything else,

0:16:58 > 0:17:01and it was only because I wanted to go to work that I took it,

0:17:01 > 0:17:03and I thought, well, "You'll be OK."

0:17:03 > 0:17:08The first couple of weeks Andrew managed to make the repayments,

0:17:08 > 0:17:12but in the third week his rent was due and he didn't have enough spare cash.

0:17:12 > 0:17:14He went to the meeting place

0:17:14 > 0:17:17and told the man he didn't have the money that time.

0:17:17 > 0:17:22He said, "No, no, it doesn't work like that." He said, "You can't not pay me.'

0:17:22 > 0:17:27And he just grabbed me by the throat and started assaulting me.

0:17:27 > 0:17:33He said, "You're going to have to learn, when I tell you you pay me, you pay me."

0:17:33 > 0:17:40And, er, my immediate thought was fear, terrible fear.

0:17:40 > 0:17:46He beat me about my head and, er, he took the money that I had.

0:17:46 > 0:17:48And he went to his car and drove off.

0:17:48 > 0:17:52Andrew was desperate to repay the loan as fast as possible,

0:17:52 > 0:17:55and decided to get hold of the money he needed

0:17:55 > 0:17:59by taking out a log-book loan against the value of his car.

0:17:59 > 0:18:04I thought it's better to owe those people than to owe the guy who had attacked me.

0:18:04 > 0:18:09I needed to get him out of my head because it was... it was making me a nervous wreck.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11So Andrew took a log-book loan

0:18:11 > 0:18:15and told the man he was going to pay off the debt in full.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18But he didn't expect what was about to happen.

0:18:21 > 0:18:26Still to come, we'll hear how Andrew was forced to flee his home

0:18:26 > 0:18:29after the loan sharks turned really nasty.

0:18:29 > 0:18:33They pulled me out of the car onto the floor and they started kicking me.

0:18:33 > 0:18:38And how bank charges nearly caused this pensioner to lose his house.

0:18:38 > 0:18:43And I can't tell you what that was like. It felt dreadful. Sorry.

0:18:47 > 0:18:51The payday-loan business is booming.

0:18:51 > 0:18:56In the last three years, the amount of money borrowed more than doubled

0:18:56 > 0:18:59from 900 million to two billion.

0:18:59 > 0:19:03Vacant high-street shops are filling up with lenders -

0:19:03 > 0:19:06in a single year the Money Shop opened 80 new branches.

0:19:06 > 0:19:10We sent a researcher, Alice, down the high street

0:19:10 > 0:19:14to find out what people are told when they ask about a loan.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16This is a fairly ordinary South London high street,

0:19:16 > 0:19:18it's not a particularly wealthy area,

0:19:18 > 0:19:22and there's lots of different shops targeting the kind of people who would use payday loans.

0:19:22 > 0:19:28I'm going to ask to borrow £200, saying that I'm on a part-time salary and uncertain income.

0:19:28 > 0:19:32And if they ask I'm going to say I had problems with debt in the past.

0:19:32 > 0:19:35Alice didn't formerly apply for any loans

0:19:35 > 0:19:38and didn't complete any of the paperwork required by the lenders.

0:19:38 > 0:19:42However, she got an idea of what they might be willing to offer.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45The first shop Alice visited was Speedy Cash.

0:19:45 > 0:19:49Typically a £200 loan for 30 days from here

0:19:49 > 0:19:52will cost £50 in interest and fees.

0:19:52 > 0:19:55I've just been in and they didn't really ask any questions,

0:19:55 > 0:19:59they seemed very ready to give me whatever money I wanted.

0:19:59 > 0:20:00Speedy Cash told Alice,

0:20:00 > 0:20:07if she couldn't pay back the entire loan come payday, she could just pay back the £50 interest

0:20:07 > 0:20:10and roll the original debt over to the next month.

0:20:10 > 0:20:15On that they'd charge me another £50 so then I'd owe £100 for my £200 credit.

0:20:15 > 0:20:20They said I could do this up to four times, by which time you're paying back double what you've borrowed.

0:20:20 > 0:20:25The second shop was pawnbroker Albemarle Bond.

0:20:25 > 0:20:30They charge a lower fee of £28 to borrow £200 for 30 days.

0:20:30 > 0:20:34I needed to show that I was earning £700, but only last month.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37I didn't need to prove that I had a regular income of £700.

0:20:37 > 0:20:43And they offered to lend me £300 the first time and then £700 the following time,

0:20:43 > 0:20:46even though she knew that that was my entire monthly income.

0:20:46 > 0:20:51Next on the high street is another pawnbroker, H&T.

0:20:51 > 0:20:56They were the cheapest, charging £26 to borrow £200 for 30 days.

0:20:56 > 0:20:59They said that they don't really do credit checks as such.

0:20:59 > 0:21:04They'll have a little look at your bank statement but that's as far as their credit check goes,

0:21:04 > 0:21:09so there wasn't that much of an effort to make sure that I could theoretically repay.

0:21:09 > 0:21:14The next shop is the Money Shop, the UK's largest chain

0:21:14 > 0:21:19of high-street cash lenders, with over 420 stores nationwide.

0:21:19 > 0:21:24The man in the Money Shop just told me that he's never seen a payday loan application be refused,

0:21:24 > 0:21:29no matter how bad the credit check was, which might explain why they're so popular.

0:21:29 > 0:21:34The Money shop wanted to charge £50 interest on a £200 loan,

0:21:34 > 0:21:38which works out to over 1,400% APR.

0:21:39 > 0:21:42Together with Speedy Cash, that makes the Money Shop

0:21:42 > 0:21:46the joint most expensive place Alice visited,

0:21:46 > 0:21:53and 73 times more expensive than the average credit-card APR of around 19%.

0:21:53 > 0:21:58You're allowed to roll over...he said a few times, he didn't really give a specific limit.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01They seemed fine with you borrowing large amounts of money.

0:22:01 > 0:22:04To be honest, the thing that I found the most shocking was that

0:22:04 > 0:22:08they've never turned anyone down for credit, cos that really does imply

0:22:08 > 0:22:12that they're not looking very hard at whether people can repay the amounts or not.

0:22:14 > 0:22:18We asked the companies to comment. Albemarle Bond told us...

0:22:37 > 0:22:39The Money Shop told us...

0:22:58 > 0:23:02Speedy Cash and H&T did not respond.

0:23:02 > 0:23:05Ultimately payday-loan companies are working in the interests

0:23:05 > 0:23:08of their shareholders. They want to make as much money as possible

0:23:08 > 0:23:12and the best way to do that is to get people to continue taking out more credit each month.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15Unfortunately that's not what is in the best interest of the customers.

0:23:15 > 0:23:19The rise of the industry has led to a sharp increase in people

0:23:19 > 0:23:24seeking professional debt advice after taking out payday loans.

0:23:24 > 0:23:28In fact, in a recent survey almost half the payday-loan users questioned

0:23:28 > 0:23:33said they thought it had actually made their financial situation worse.

0:23:33 > 0:23:37At one branch of the Citizens Advice Bureau they've been so swamped

0:23:37 > 0:23:41they've started a campaign to get the industry shut down.

0:23:41 > 0:23:45I think it's about time that we show the payday-loan lenders in Medway

0:23:45 > 0:23:50that we mean business, and we have to do something about the situation,

0:23:50 > 0:23:53with over £2.5 million of debt coming through this building each week.

0:23:53 > 0:23:57Today staff from Medway CAB are demonstrating

0:23:57 > 0:24:00outside their local Money Shop.

0:24:00 > 0:24:05ALL CHANT: Say no to payday loans. Say no to payday loans.

0:24:05 > 0:24:08It's generated quite a lot of media attention.

0:24:08 > 0:24:13How does this shop and others like it contribute to the problem?

0:24:13 > 0:24:17I think it's clear, with the likes of Money Shop, if they've got four stores in Medway alone,

0:24:17 > 0:24:19they don't open a store if it's not going to make any money.

0:24:19 > 0:24:23This is the tip of the iceberg. There's more and more on television,

0:24:23 > 0:24:27Wonga and all the other companies, that are charging up to 4,000%.

0:24:27 > 0:24:30People don't read the print, and that's what we're doing today.

0:24:30 > 0:24:35Once you sign the contract you're chained into it, tied up into it, and there's no getting out.

0:24:35 > 0:24:39Concerns about payday loans have become so great

0:24:39 > 0:24:43that they've been banned or interest rates capped in 15 US states

0:24:43 > 0:24:47as well as parts of Australia and Canada.

0:24:47 > 0:24:52But consumer group Which doesn't want to see payday loans outlawed in this country.

0:24:52 > 0:24:54The reality is that there are people

0:24:54 > 0:24:57that are going to want credit

0:24:57 > 0:24:59and if we don't have a regulated industry

0:24:59 > 0:25:05then we're going to have a black market where it's illegal loan sharks dealing with these people

0:25:05 > 0:25:06and that's what we don't want.

0:25:11 > 0:25:14Coming up later, alongside the rise on the high street,

0:25:14 > 0:25:18payday lending is also exploding on the internet.

0:25:18 > 0:25:22We'll see what happens when you go online to borrow cash.

0:25:22 > 0:25:25You can get into a lot of trouble without anybody knowing about it.

0:25:30 > 0:25:33Andrew borrowed £1,000 from a loan shark.

0:25:33 > 0:25:36After the man assaulted him for missing a repayment,

0:25:36 > 0:25:39Andrew raised the money to pay the man off.

0:25:39 > 0:25:41But when he tried to hand over the cash,

0:25:41 > 0:25:46he discovered he was in far deeper trouble than he could possibly have imagined.

0:25:46 > 0:25:52We arranged to meet on an industrial estate where it was dark.

0:25:52 > 0:25:56And he pulled up alongside and got in my car and I gave him the £1,400.

0:25:56 > 0:26:01"Well done, good, good, good. So £150 next week, then."

0:26:01 > 0:26:06I said, "Well, £150 is not due next week."

0:26:06 > 0:26:08I said, "You've had double, which is what you asked for."

0:26:08 > 0:26:13And he said, "No, no, no. I've told you, it doubles up.

0:26:13 > 0:26:16"You owe me £4,000."

0:26:16 > 0:26:21Where Andrew had thought it was just the repayment amount that would double if he missed a week,

0:26:21 > 0:26:24it turned out that it was actually the entire loan.

0:26:24 > 0:26:27A couple of guys got out the car and came over.

0:26:27 > 0:26:32They pulled me out of the car, onto the floor, and they started kicking me.

0:26:32 > 0:26:36They kicked and kicked and kicked.

0:26:36 > 0:26:39I didn't know whether I was going to get out of that.

0:26:39 > 0:26:42Because they didn't stop kicking.

0:26:42 > 0:26:47I knew that I'd been hurt and I thought, "I hope I can go to work."

0:26:47 > 0:26:49HE BREATHES DEEPLY

0:26:52 > 0:26:55Andrew suffered severe bruising and cracked ribs,

0:26:55 > 0:26:59but he was too scared to report the attack to the police.

0:27:00 > 0:27:03And the intimidation didn't end there.

0:27:03 > 0:27:06I come out one morning and all four tyres had been slashed,

0:27:06 > 0:27:09and there was a beer mat under the wiper blade

0:27:09 > 0:27:15with the words "you will pay" scratched into the beer mat.

0:27:15 > 0:27:20And I thought, just get away from the house. So I fled.

0:27:21 > 0:27:24A friend helped Andrew replace his tyres

0:27:24 > 0:27:27and he decided to go and live in his car.

0:27:27 > 0:27:33I slept in the car, ate in the car, my free time was spent in the car.

0:27:35 > 0:27:39Eventually, in desperation, Andrew plucked up the courage

0:27:39 > 0:27:42to confide in a friend, who agreed to give him a place to stay.

0:27:44 > 0:27:46He changed his phone number and his car

0:27:46 > 0:27:49and hasn't heard from the loan shark since.

0:27:50 > 0:27:52But he still lives in fear of being found.

0:27:52 > 0:27:57I'm afraid to go out, I still feel very threatened.

0:27:57 > 0:28:02You become afraid to visit family or return home

0:28:02 > 0:28:04because you never know who's watching.

0:28:04 > 0:28:09Andrew still feels the long-term effects of his experience.

0:28:09 > 0:28:15I did visit the doctor on one occasion and I said, "I think I'm having a nervous breakdown"

0:28:15 > 0:28:21and he said, "You're not HAVING." He said, "You've HAD a nervous breakdown."

0:28:25 > 0:28:28And...

0:28:28 > 0:28:33you still feel it. I still feel it now and it's years later.

0:28:33 > 0:28:36Lending me £1,000 didn't do me a favour at all.

0:28:42 > 0:28:44Most of us might think that the bank is the place to go

0:28:44 > 0:28:47for a solution to a financial problem.

0:28:47 > 0:28:53But what do you do when it's your bank that caused the problem in the first place?

0:28:53 > 0:28:56It's a question that's facing Howard Rutherford.

0:28:56 > 0:29:00For the last five years he's been struggling with an appalling deal

0:29:00 > 0:29:02that's seen him fending off bailiffs,

0:29:02 > 0:29:07standing up in court and even having to sell his home.

0:29:07 > 0:29:09And the source of his worst deal?

0:29:09 > 0:29:11His bank, HSBC.

0:29:13 > 0:29:16I feel cheated, I feel misled,

0:29:16 > 0:29:23I just feel very, very let down by a bank that I'd been with since I was 17.

0:29:24 > 0:29:29The problems started back in 2001, when a direct debit of £76

0:29:29 > 0:29:33was taken from Howard's account to pay his council tax.

0:29:33 > 0:29:38At the time, he had an overdraft, but as a disabled pensioner on a low income

0:29:38 > 0:29:42money was tight and he was already up to the limit.

0:29:42 > 0:29:45That direct debit was returned by the bank,

0:29:45 > 0:29:48and for returning it it did two things, it put me

0:29:48 > 0:29:53over my overdraft limit and the bank charged me £27.50 for the privilege.

0:29:53 > 0:29:59£27.50 was the beginning of a growing stack of charges

0:29:59 > 0:30:04that mounted to over £4,500 and almost cost him his home.

0:30:04 > 0:30:08My pension was going into the bank, and there'd be a charge perhaps

0:30:08 > 0:30:11because I'd gone over my overdraft limit.

0:30:11 > 0:30:16And, as soon as my pension went in, the bank were taking a chunk of that out. So I was having less to use.

0:30:16 > 0:30:21Then perhaps the next month there'd be another charge, and another chunk taken out by the bank.

0:30:21 > 0:30:25As his finances became more strained,

0:30:25 > 0:30:29Howard started falling behind on his mortgage payments,

0:30:29 > 0:30:33which were paid by direct debit through his HSBC account.

0:30:33 > 0:30:37The bank would simply return the direct debit without telling me that it had happened.

0:30:37 > 0:30:42And the building society would also then decide they were going to charge me a fee.

0:30:43 > 0:30:48Howard's mortgage debt grew to nearly £10,000 in arrears and charges

0:30:48 > 0:30:52and the building society began repossession proceedings.

0:30:52 > 0:30:58We did get to the stage finally where the order for possession had been granted

0:30:58 > 0:31:05and the bailiffs were then instructed to apply for immediate possession.

0:31:05 > 0:31:09I managed to get the hearing in front of the judge the morning of the possession.

0:31:09 > 0:31:12I can't tell you how I felt that particular day

0:31:12 > 0:31:16because I was just literally... about for someone to come along

0:31:16 > 0:31:21and say, "I'll take your keys, thank you very much," and throw me out the door.

0:31:21 > 0:31:27At the 11th hour Howard managed to get the possession order rejected.

0:31:27 > 0:31:34I came within a gnat's whisker of someone coming along

0:31:34 > 0:31:37and taking the keys off me and saying, "That's it, you're out."

0:31:37 > 0:31:43And I can't tell you what that was like. It felt dreadful. Sorry.

0:31:43 > 0:31:45It did.

0:31:45 > 0:31:47Still does. Excuse me.

0:31:49 > 0:31:53Struggling to make ends meet, Howard looked around for a solution,

0:31:53 > 0:31:55and found one.

0:31:55 > 0:31:56Or so he thought.

0:31:56 > 0:32:00I'd seen in the newspapers and on the television that people were

0:32:00 > 0:32:06reclaiming their bank charges and I thought, "Well, I've had quite a few bank charges over the years,

0:32:06 > 0:32:08"I think I'll have a go as well."

0:32:09 > 0:32:14Bank charges - where the bank adds on a fee for going overdrawn or for a missed payment -

0:32:14 > 0:32:16have been around for years.

0:32:16 > 0:32:20Estimates from a few years ago suggested banks were making as much

0:32:20 > 0:32:25as £4.7 billion a year from fees of up to £39 for a bounced cheque.

0:32:27 > 0:32:32But in 2006 a campaign began to get these charges reduced or refunded

0:32:32 > 0:32:35on the grounds that they were unfair.

0:32:35 > 0:32:40Customers who threatened court action started to win back hundreds of pounds.

0:32:40 > 0:32:45The banks were too afraid to test the cases in court in case they lost.

0:32:45 > 0:32:48They just paid out to anyone who complained.

0:32:48 > 0:32:56In the first half of 2007 alone, the banks repaid £200m in charges.

0:32:56 > 0:33:00I got hold of my bank statements, a huge pile of them,

0:33:00 > 0:33:05six years, as you can probably imagine, went through them piece by piece

0:33:05 > 0:33:09and built up a picture of how much I'd been charged over those six years.

0:33:09 > 0:33:15What Howard discovered was that he'd been charged a massive 89 times,

0:33:15 > 0:33:21amounting to over £4,500 in charges and interest on the charges.

0:33:21 > 0:33:28There were charges for returned direct debits, there were charges for returned cheques,

0:33:28 > 0:33:32there were charges for returned standing orders,

0:33:32 > 0:33:35there were interest charges of course, which were added to those,

0:33:35 > 0:33:40and when I looked at all of this I was absolutely horrified.

0:33:40 > 0:33:43Howard filed his claim, hoping for a quick resolution.

0:33:43 > 0:33:48When that didn't happen he turned to solicitor Tom Brennan for help.

0:33:48 > 0:33:52- Hello, Tom.- Hello, Howard.- Come in.

0:33:52 > 0:33:55'My initial reaction was that it's a desperate situation'

0:33:55 > 0:33:59for a person who has no control over their money because so much of it is being taken away.

0:33:59 > 0:34:02- Have a seat.- Thanks.

0:34:03 > 0:34:05Now, which document is this?

0:34:05 > 0:34:11What I've done is I've sat down and made a breakdown of how the charges were actually applied.

0:34:11 > 0:34:15These three fees, which amount to £260...

0:34:15 > 0:34:17Those are all on the same day, aren't they?

0:34:17 > 0:34:21But then you start to look at the whole month itself and go back,

0:34:21 > 0:34:26and prior to that there was £180 on top of £260,

0:34:26 > 0:34:29so I was probably saying goodbye to half of my income.

0:34:29 > 0:34:32- So half of your money's disappearing just on this.- Just in charges.

0:34:32 > 0:34:36Tom took Howard's case to the small claims court

0:34:36 > 0:34:41to try to get his £4,500 back from HSBC.

0:34:41 > 0:34:44But before they could get a result, everything changed.

0:34:45 > 0:34:48The Office of Fair Trading decided to take the banks to court

0:34:48 > 0:34:52in a test case to see if the charges were fair.

0:34:52 > 0:34:56In the small claims court the judge put a stay on Howard's case

0:34:56 > 0:34:59while the issue was decided.

0:34:59 > 0:35:02'What that meant for Howard is that he had no way of getting his money back'

0:35:02 > 0:35:07and this case between the OFT and the banks dragged on for two years. And so Howard was trapped in limbo.

0:35:09 > 0:35:14The legal controversy over bank charges came to an end in 2009.

0:35:14 > 0:35:18The courts decided bank charges could not be judged unfair on their own

0:35:18 > 0:35:23because they were part of an overall package of services provided by the banks.

0:35:23 > 0:35:29We think bank charges are grossly unfair because the poorest or those who make mistakes pay the most.

0:35:29 > 0:35:32The second reason is the cost to the banks for providing this money

0:35:32 > 0:35:35is a fraction of what they charge consumers at the end of the day.

0:35:35 > 0:35:39After the ruling the banks did bow to the pressure

0:35:39 > 0:35:42and reduced their headline charges.

0:35:42 > 0:35:44But millions of people every year are still hit with penalties

0:35:44 > 0:35:47they can't afford.

0:35:47 > 0:35:50The only way you'll find out whether they've really reduced it significantly

0:35:50 > 0:35:53is by looking at the total amount they're taking off consumers.

0:35:53 > 0:35:57In 2006 they took off £2.6 billion.

0:35:57 > 0:35:59And here we are five years later

0:35:59 > 0:36:03and they're still taking over £2 billion per year.

0:36:04 > 0:36:07Shockingly, the amount banks charge for unauthorised overdrafts

0:36:07 > 0:36:11can equate to interest rates of hundreds of thousands of per cent.

0:36:11 > 0:36:13At the time we did our research,

0:36:13 > 0:36:20going £100 into the red unauthorised for a month with Barclays cost £88 -

0:36:20 > 0:36:24an APR of 366,000%.

0:36:24 > 0:36:31While borrowing the same amount for 30 days without permission from Santander

0:36:31 > 0:36:35would set you back £100 - that's over 800,000% APR.

0:36:35 > 0:36:40In response to complaints, the banks are planning to introduce

0:36:40 > 0:36:46new measures later this year - such as texting customers when their balances are low -

0:36:46 > 0:36:48to help them avoid bank charges.

0:36:48 > 0:36:51We think it's a step in the right direction

0:36:51 > 0:36:54but these charges can still accrue up to hundreds of pounds

0:36:54 > 0:36:58and we think they're still too high and still too confusing and still unfair.

0:36:58 > 0:37:02At the end of 2011, Howard finally received news

0:37:02 > 0:37:06that, in a court hearing he didn't even know was happening,

0:37:06 > 0:37:09a judge had thrown his case out.

0:37:09 > 0:37:11He's planning to appeal.

0:37:11 > 0:37:15We asked HSBC to comment. They told us:

0:37:33 > 0:37:36I was hurt, annoyed, angry.

0:37:36 > 0:37:38Perhaps my gran was right,

0:37:38 > 0:37:40keeping it in a tin under the bed might be the answer.

0:37:44 > 0:37:48Payday loans are big business in the UK.

0:37:48 > 0:37:53Between 2006 and 2009 the number of loans taken out

0:37:53 > 0:37:58quadrupled from 1.2 million to over four million.

0:37:58 > 0:38:01Many of those loans were taken out online.

0:38:01 > 0:38:05So just how easy is it to get hold of cash on the internet?

0:38:05 > 0:38:08Researcher Alice went surfing to find out.

0:38:08 > 0:38:14I've just done a search for payday loans online and there are 252 million results that have come back.

0:38:14 > 0:38:17These slider systems that are on a lot of these websites

0:38:17 > 0:38:21make it seem very easy, like all the cash is right there.

0:38:21 > 0:38:25Going online is the most expensive way to get a payday loan.

0:38:25 > 0:38:33Borrowing £200 over the internet for 30 days could cost up to £66 in interest and fees,

0:38:33 > 0:38:36compared with a maximum of £50 on the high street.

0:38:36 > 0:38:41It's all about fast cash, easy cash, anonymous cash, right now.

0:38:41 > 0:38:45The fact that they tell you you can have it in your bank within an hour,

0:38:45 > 0:38:47that's like a lifeline to a desperate borrower.

0:38:47 > 0:38:51It may seem like an easy deal, but borrowing online

0:38:51 > 0:38:59might have hidden dangers, as Joe Maloney discovered when he borrowed £150 from a company called Mr Lender

0:38:59 > 0:39:01to pay for some repairs on his car.

0:39:01 > 0:39:05A friend of mine told me there's these payday loan things on the internet

0:39:05 > 0:39:11so I went onto the internet and Mr Lender come up and within an hour I had the money in my bank.

0:39:11 > 0:39:15It was so easy that Joe soon took out several more loans -

0:39:15 > 0:39:19and then found he couldn't pay the money back.

0:39:19 > 0:39:23I lost my job so I couldn't pay them back anyway.

0:39:23 > 0:39:27When Mr Lender couldn't get hold of Joe at his old workplace

0:39:27 > 0:39:32they did something usually saved for naughty schoolboys - they called his mum.

0:39:32 > 0:39:36I first became aware that Joe had taken out this payday loan

0:39:36 > 0:39:40when I kept getting phone calls asking for the money.

0:39:40 > 0:39:45Mr Lender told Sue that the interest on Joe's loan was going up and up

0:39:45 > 0:39:49but they promised to freeze it if she could just make a small payment.

0:39:49 > 0:39:51I did say to them, "Look, I'm on a pension,

0:39:51 > 0:39:56"there is no way I've even got the amount of money you're looking for."

0:39:56 > 0:40:00Sue agreed make a one-off payment of £10

0:40:00 > 0:40:03and gave her debit-card details over the phone.

0:40:03 > 0:40:06She thought that would be the end of the matter -

0:40:06 > 0:40:08but a week later, her mortgage payment bounced.

0:40:08 > 0:40:13I got in touch with the bank, and I realised that there were

0:40:13 > 0:40:17various debits to this company Mr Lender.

0:40:17 > 0:40:20They'd taken the £10, as I'd agreed,

0:40:20 > 0:40:24and then they'd taken three further amounts.

0:40:24 > 0:40:29In total Mr Lender withdrew £310 from Sue's account

0:40:29 > 0:40:33on top of the £10 she says she had agreed to.

0:40:33 > 0:40:39It seemed that rather than just make the one-off payment Sue thought she had consented to,

0:40:39 > 0:40:43she had unwittingly agreed to more.

0:40:43 > 0:40:47We asked Mr Lender to comment. Mr Lender say...

0:41:16 > 0:41:20Other customers of different payday-loan companies have found

0:41:20 > 0:41:23that they have signed up to continuous payment authorities.

0:41:23 > 0:41:26CPAs allow a company to take out money whenever they want.

0:41:26 > 0:41:30So for example, if they want to take out £400 the first day

0:41:30 > 0:41:33and you've only got £300 in your account, they'll take that £300,

0:41:33 > 0:41:36then the next day they might come back for the £100 you still owe.

0:41:36 > 0:41:38Under a direct debit that's not possible,

0:41:38 > 0:41:42the company can only get money out the one time on the one day a month,

0:41:42 > 0:41:47so customers have a lot more security with direct debits than with continuous payments.

0:41:47 > 0:41:51Consumer Focus carried out research into continuous payment authorities

0:41:51 > 0:41:55and found many customers had no idea that's what they were agreeing to.

0:41:56 > 0:42:01And in 2010 the OFT banned one payday-loan company from using CPAs

0:42:01 > 0:42:05after it repeatedly took money from customers' accounts

0:42:05 > 0:42:08when they were already in difficulties.

0:42:08 > 0:42:13We don't think payday loan companies are making clear to customers when they sign up

0:42:13 > 0:42:16what actually is a continuous payment authority.

0:42:16 > 0:42:18Many consumers think it's the same as a direct debit.

0:42:18 > 0:42:22The way payday-loan companies are using this is totally unfair.

0:42:22 > 0:42:24They're taking money out any day of the month

0:42:24 > 0:42:29and taking out so much that at times the consumer doesn't have enough to live on.

0:42:29 > 0:42:31Payday loans should always be the last resort.

0:42:31 > 0:42:34If you've got to the point where you can't get to the end of the month

0:42:34 > 0:42:38and you need to go to a payday-loan lender to tide yourself over until your next pay cheque,

0:42:38 > 0:42:44you're clearly running very close to the limit of your financial capability

0:42:44 > 0:42:47and you can't do that month after month.

0:42:47 > 0:42:51Payday loans are absolutely dreadful.

0:42:51 > 0:42:55You know, I would worry about giving anybody a payday loan.

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