0:00:02 > 0:00:05This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.
0:00:05 > 0:00:07- MAN ON PHONE: - 'He's shooting everybody.'
0:00:07 > 0:00:09- WOMAN ON PHONE: - 'Who's shooting everybody?'
0:00:09 > 0:00:11- 'A gunman. - A gunman's shooting everybody?
0:00:11 > 0:00:14- 'Yeah. - OK, whereabouts?
0:00:14 > 0:00:17'Outside the library at Birstall.
0:00:17 > 0:00:20- 'He's stabbed someone as well. - He's stabbed someone as well?'
0:00:23 > 0:00:25It's a brutal attack, he is going to kill her,
0:00:25 > 0:00:28there is nothing going to stop him from doing so.
0:00:28 > 0:00:30There's rage, there's real rage.
0:00:32 > 0:00:35- NEWS REPORTS OVERLAP:- Reports of a stabbing, reports of a shooting.
0:00:35 > 0:00:39The Labour MP Jo Cox, shot and stabbed in her constituency...
0:00:39 > 0:00:42..in a killing which led to the suspension of campaigning
0:00:42 > 0:00:43in the EU referendum.
0:00:43 > 0:00:47Police have charged Thomas Mair with the murder of the Labour MP...
0:00:47 > 0:00:50Even now, I don't think I'll ever be able to reconcile it,
0:00:50 > 0:00:54because it's not him. How can you know someone for nine years
0:00:54 > 0:00:57and not know that he's capable of doing that?
0:00:59 > 0:01:01We're asking you WHY you've done it?
0:01:03 > 0:01:06Jo Cox's family want to know why...
0:01:06 > 0:01:07she's dead.
0:01:17 > 0:01:20- Thank you, it's been nice to meet you.- It's really good
0:01:20 > 0:01:24- that you're here. Hello!- A wonderful-looking lady.- Go, Labour!
0:01:27 > 0:01:30I can't remember anybody not liking Jo.
0:01:31 > 0:01:35We were really, really close. We were close all our lives, really,
0:01:35 > 0:01:37but particularly when we were kids.
0:01:38 > 0:01:40We grew up in Heckmondwike.
0:01:41 > 0:01:44We used to go up and play in the barley fields.
0:01:45 > 0:01:48There was a wild horse that used to chase us
0:01:48 > 0:01:50and there was a bull, so I remember, like,
0:01:50 > 0:01:54playing out for hours and hours and hours.
0:01:55 > 0:01:57We had a very good childhood, a very happy childhood.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01She was a hard act to follow, going through school,
0:02:01 > 0:02:02cos Jo was good at everything.
0:02:04 > 0:02:06She was academic, but she was also sporty.
0:02:06 > 0:02:08She was very popular, she'd got a lot of friends.
0:02:10 > 0:02:12She was a little bit too good to be true.
0:02:13 > 0:02:172005 has been an unprecedented year for Oxfam,
0:02:17 > 0:02:21both in terms of the number and scale of the disaster...
0:02:21 > 0:02:24MAN: Jo and I were both were both working at Oxfam.
0:02:24 > 0:02:28She was very, sort of, well-known as being this very, sort of, effective,
0:02:28 > 0:02:30passionate advocate.
0:02:30 > 0:02:33People talked about her with a sort of mix of admiration and awe.
0:02:35 > 0:02:37We ended up having dinner together one night
0:02:37 > 0:02:41and she cooked me a very bad vegetarian lasagne, which she burnt.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44Cooking wasn't her strongest point,
0:02:44 > 0:02:46but it was a very nice meal anyway.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49We'd always lived on boats together.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52Every two weeks, we'd live somewhere different. It was beautiful.
0:02:52 > 0:02:54Amazing way to live, for a period, at least.
0:02:57 > 0:03:00One of the, sort of, defining things of her was that energy
0:03:00 > 0:03:02and that she just put into everything,
0:03:02 > 0:03:04from the most mundane tasks to the most significant.
0:03:04 > 0:03:07Therefore, made days exciting and interesting
0:03:07 > 0:03:09even if they weren't necessarily going to be so,
0:03:09 > 0:03:11and particularly with the kids.
0:03:11 > 0:03:14She put such an energy into them.
0:03:14 > 0:03:17There was once a banana, and it was a cheeky kind of banana.
0:03:17 > 0:03:19Do you know what it did?
0:03:19 > 0:03:21What Jo did, she passed on to both of them,
0:03:21 > 0:03:28her excitement and her, sort of, joy at life.
0:03:28 > 0:03:30People said, "I quite fancy eating a banana."
0:03:30 > 0:03:34- SING-SONG:- "You can't catch me, I'm a banana!"
0:03:42 > 0:03:46Thomas Mair was eight years of age when his mum and dad separated,
0:03:46 > 0:03:49and he came to live in the Birstall area,
0:03:49 > 0:03:52which is where his grandmother lived.
0:03:55 > 0:03:59His mum and his grandma, Tommy, and his younger brother, Scott,
0:03:59 > 0:04:02all in lived in the same house.
0:04:02 > 0:04:05You might see Tommy now and again,
0:04:05 > 0:04:08I don't think he ever played out, really.
0:04:09 > 0:04:13He spent every evening reading or writing stories.
0:04:13 > 0:04:16His mum described him as an intellectual child.
0:04:16 > 0:04:21Quite gifted at school, certainly sat Mensa exams. In his teens,
0:04:21 > 0:04:24not interested in girls, not interested in going to the pub.
0:04:24 > 0:04:26All the regular things that you would expect from a teenager,
0:04:26 > 0:04:28Thomas wasn't interested in.
0:04:29 > 0:04:32His mother remarried and had another son.
0:04:34 > 0:04:37I know that his mother formed a relationship with
0:04:37 > 0:04:41an African-Caribbean man, and from that time onwards,
0:04:41 > 0:04:44their relationship deteriorated.
0:04:44 > 0:04:49Mum left and got her own place, so it was just Tommy and his grandma.
0:04:49 > 0:04:52About 20 years ago, the grandma died
0:04:52 > 0:04:56and Tommy was left in the house on his own.
0:05:05 > 0:05:09Very cold, very impersonal.
0:05:09 > 0:05:12Clearly he was a very well-ordered individual.
0:05:14 > 0:05:17Single bed, very, very neatly made.
0:05:17 > 0:05:18Everything had its place.
0:05:20 > 0:05:22He had a very well-structured lifestyle,
0:05:22 > 0:05:24in terms of his daily routine.
0:05:24 > 0:05:26It was evident that he ate the same things.
0:05:28 > 0:05:31There's an obsessive compulsiveness about him.
0:05:31 > 0:05:33The tins are facing the right way.
0:05:33 > 0:05:36It's that classic OCD-ness.
0:05:39 > 0:05:42He'd wash his hands with the use of Brillo pads.
0:05:42 > 0:05:44His mum described them as blue, almost, his hands,
0:05:44 > 0:05:46cos they'd basically taken the skin off.
0:05:47 > 0:05:53His face and forehead were red, but not as bad as his hands.
0:05:54 > 0:05:57Apparently, he had a thing about germs.
0:05:58 > 0:06:01Nobody has come forward to say they've ever been in any form of
0:06:01 > 0:06:03relationship with him at all.
0:06:03 > 0:06:07Just not communicated on any level with anybody, really.
0:06:07 > 0:06:09Lived a solitary life and, in fact,
0:06:09 > 0:06:12some witnesses have described him as almost being a hermit.
0:06:15 > 0:06:18So, first of all, I'm standing for the Labour Party in Batley and Spen,
0:06:18 > 0:06:21which is quite a large constituency around here
0:06:21 > 0:06:24and many of your listeners, I think, live in that constituency.
0:06:24 > 0:06:26I grew up in Batley and Heckmondwike...
0:06:26 > 0:06:31She got a call letting her know that the MP from her hometown
0:06:31 > 0:06:33was standing down.
0:06:33 > 0:06:37For me, it was so obviously the thing that she wanted to do next
0:06:37 > 0:06:40with her life, and I knew that she'd be incredibly good at it,
0:06:40 > 0:06:43and I knew that this chance wouldn't come up again.
0:06:43 > 0:06:46So we said, "Let's go for it."
0:06:46 > 0:06:48You'd be here five years?
0:06:48 > 0:06:50Five years. But, hopefully, I'll be here for 20 years.
0:06:50 > 0:06:54- You'll be getting tired of seeing me.- So once you're in...
0:06:54 > 0:06:57Jo was driven by a desire to help people
0:06:57 > 0:07:00and I think she had become very politically aware
0:07:00 > 0:07:03whilst at university, and since,
0:07:03 > 0:07:07that politics was a means of helping people,
0:07:07 > 0:07:10and politics was a means of creating a difference.
0:07:10 > 0:07:12APPLAUSE
0:07:13 > 0:07:19The Conservative Party candidate, 15,769.
0:07:19 > 0:07:22This was where we grew up, she wanted to be our MP.
0:07:22 > 0:07:24She wanted to be the MP for Batley and Spen.
0:07:24 > 0:07:27It was never just about getting a constituency.
0:07:27 > 0:07:29It was getting her home constituency,
0:07:29 > 0:07:32with the people that she cared about
0:07:32 > 0:07:34and the area that she knew and loved.
0:07:34 > 0:07:38Cox, Jo, Labour Party,
0:07:38 > 0:07:41- 21,826. - CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:07:43 > 0:07:46- Jo, how do you feel right now? - I'm elated, but I'm humbled that
0:07:46 > 0:07:49the people of Batley and Spen have put their trust in me
0:07:49 > 0:07:51to be your next Member of Parliament.
0:07:51 > 0:07:53But I'm very excited.
0:07:53 > 0:07:55My husband and I have been up all night.
0:07:55 > 0:07:58I remember lifting her up into the air and giving her a hug and, yeah,
0:07:58 > 0:08:01just being really excited, and her, sort of,
0:08:01 > 0:08:05bounding with enthusiasm and excitement about it.
0:08:07 > 0:08:08Thank you, Mr Speaker.
0:08:08 > 0:08:11It's a great privilege to be called to make my maiden speech.
0:08:11 > 0:08:15Batley and Spen is a gathering of typically independent, no-nonsense,
0:08:15 > 0:08:19proud Yorkshire towns and villages.
0:08:19 > 0:08:22Our communities have been deeply enhanced by immigration,
0:08:22 > 0:08:25be it Irish Catholics across the constituency,
0:08:25 > 0:08:28or Muslims from Indian Gujarat or Pakistan,
0:08:28 > 0:08:31and whilst we celebrate our diversity,
0:08:31 > 0:08:32the thing that surprises me
0:08:32 > 0:08:35time and time again as I travel around the constituency is that
0:08:35 > 0:08:38we are far more united and have far more in common
0:08:38 > 0:08:40than that which divides us.
0:08:42 > 0:08:46From getting elected, she just really threw everything into it.
0:08:47 > 0:08:49She was so determined.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53- JO COX:- It's been a busy year. You know, we hit the ground running.
0:08:53 > 0:08:55I've probably dealt with about, oh,
0:08:55 > 0:09:004,000 or 5,000 individual families already across Batley and Spen.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03Jo picked up hundreds of issues
0:09:03 > 0:09:07during the campaign, so we had a lot to go at, to start with.
0:09:07 > 0:09:10You know, the ability to stand up in the House of Commons and actually
0:09:10 > 0:09:13really challenge the Government to make sure that its policies reflect
0:09:13 > 0:09:16what local people are worried about...
0:09:16 > 0:09:17She was just like Tigger.
0:09:17 > 0:09:21She'd just bounced around all over the place.
0:09:21 > 0:09:24Sometimes I felt like I was just trailing along in her wake
0:09:24 > 0:09:26and she'd be bouncing off somewhere.
0:09:26 > 0:09:31She just had so much energy, and just keeping up with her,
0:09:31 > 0:09:34mentally and physically, was hard work.
0:09:34 > 0:09:37You know, we've helped people get discharged from hospital faster,
0:09:37 > 0:09:39get better compensation, get new houses.
0:09:39 > 0:09:44She just had this unbelievable gift to bring everybody on a journey
0:09:44 > 0:09:48with her. She was very, sort of, down-to-earth, very humble,
0:09:48 > 0:09:51and I think she had a very, sort of, um, friendly, sort of,
0:09:51 > 0:09:53informal, sort of, approach with people.
0:09:53 > 0:09:55Just to repeat to any of your listeners, if anyone does have
0:09:55 > 0:09:57a problem they're really grappling with,
0:09:57 > 0:10:00where they think me and my team can help,
0:10:00 > 0:10:02they just need to come to one of my surgeries.
0:10:02 > 0:10:05They're all on the website. Give my office a ring...
0:10:08 > 0:10:09Thomas has never worked,
0:10:09 > 0:10:14and that's because he's been signed off due to his anxiety.
0:10:14 > 0:10:17But what that did allow Thomas to do was to work voluntary.
0:10:22 > 0:10:24It would be around 2007,
0:10:24 > 0:10:28and Tom came to increase his confidence, his IT skills.
0:10:28 > 0:10:30Which, you know, that is what we do.
0:10:31 > 0:10:34We're there to work with people that have got physical disabilities,
0:10:34 > 0:10:37mental health, learning disabilities.
0:10:37 > 0:10:41You know, there are a lot of people out there that can do more,
0:10:41 > 0:10:43if they're given the opportunity,
0:10:43 > 0:10:45and given the right guidance, and the confidence.
0:10:47 > 0:10:52He would sit there...very solitary, he would not engage with anybody.
0:10:52 > 0:10:54He wouldn't chat with the person next to him.
0:10:54 > 0:10:57If he was stuck with something, in the work that he was doing,
0:10:57 > 0:10:58he would not ask,
0:10:58 > 0:11:02he would just stare at the screen, waiting for someone to go to him.
0:11:03 > 0:11:05If you tried to engage in a conversation,
0:11:05 > 0:11:09it was like trying to extract teeth, getting him to actually talk.
0:11:12 > 0:11:16He then left us to go and volunteer -
0:11:16 > 0:11:18volunteer as a gardener.
0:11:19 > 0:11:20"I can honestly say
0:11:20 > 0:11:23"it has done me more good than all the psychotherapy
0:11:23 > 0:11:25"and medication in the world.
0:11:25 > 0:11:28"Many people who suffer from mental illness..."
0:11:28 > 0:11:29Indeed, there's an article,
0:11:29 > 0:11:32I think in the Huddersfield Examiner, going back some years,
0:11:32 > 0:11:35where Thomas is interviewed, and describes the fact
0:11:35 > 0:11:39that those types of groups were far more beneficial
0:11:39 > 0:11:42than anything that medication could ever do for him.
0:11:42 > 0:11:45"Feelings of worthlessness are also common,
0:11:45 > 0:11:48"mainly caused by long-term unemployment.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51"All these problems are alleviated by doing voluntary work."
0:11:54 > 0:11:57Tom came back to us, wanting to be a volunteer.
0:11:57 > 0:11:59He wanted to help people.
0:12:00 > 0:12:04And he did just short of five years volunteering.
0:12:05 > 0:12:10He would come to me with ideas, erm, for example,
0:12:10 > 0:12:11at Christmas he said,
0:12:11 > 0:12:14"Can we make balloon animals, you know, in the group?
0:12:14 > 0:12:18"Can I get some balloons?" And...fine.
0:12:18 > 0:12:22I've got to say, it was one of the loudest,
0:12:22 > 0:12:26most chaotic groups that I've ever seen.
0:12:26 > 0:12:28We were just giggling all afternoon.
0:12:28 > 0:12:31I think Tom was a bit of a show-off, as well.
0:12:31 > 0:12:34Because, you know, it was something he could do.
0:12:34 > 0:12:37And I think it was, really, he wanted to be liked.
0:12:37 > 0:12:39He was treated with respect by those learners,
0:12:39 > 0:12:41he was liked by those learners.
0:12:41 > 0:12:45And he wanted to give them something back, because he'd been accepted.
0:12:49 > 0:12:50Nobody knew this guy.
0:12:50 > 0:12:53His own mother didn't really know him.
0:12:53 > 0:12:57- HITLER:- Ich face der fuhrer! - CHEERING
0:12:57 > 0:12:59HITLER CONTINUES IN GERMAN
0:13:03 > 0:13:08Almost on a daily basis, Thomas Mair was looking at web pages
0:13:08 > 0:13:11relating to the Nazis.
0:13:11 > 0:13:14HITLER SPEAKS IN GERMAN
0:13:16 > 0:13:20He volunteered at the libraries in Batley and Birstall.
0:13:20 > 0:13:23And that gave him access to the internet.
0:13:23 > 0:13:26There was no online activity going on at his home address.
0:13:26 > 0:13:30There was no iPad, iPod, laptop, or anything like that in his own home.
0:13:30 > 0:13:33- Ich liebe Deutschland! - CHEERING
0:13:34 > 0:13:38He spends the majority of his spare time in the library.
0:13:38 > 0:13:42His internet search history, which we were able to access,
0:13:42 > 0:13:46would indicate that he'd been using that facility since 2012.
0:13:46 > 0:13:48Anything far right,
0:13:48 > 0:13:51he appears to have had an interest in for some time.
0:13:51 > 0:13:55He wasn't in chatrooms with other people in political groups,
0:13:55 > 0:13:57he wasn't on any online forums
0:13:57 > 0:14:00engaging in any healthy social debate.
0:14:00 > 0:14:04Hitler! Hitler aber ich Deutschland...
0:14:04 > 0:14:09He was able to immerse himself in this hatred and this ideology,
0:14:09 > 0:14:11and nobody knew about it.
0:14:13 > 0:14:15DAVID CAMERON: I will go to Parliament
0:14:15 > 0:14:19and propose that the British people decide our future in Europe,
0:14:19 > 0:14:24through an in-out referendum on Thursday the 23rd of June.
0:14:24 > 0:14:25Get our country back!
0:14:25 > 0:14:28Get our country back, absolutely! We're there.
0:14:30 > 0:14:32Our economy is better if we're inside...
0:14:32 > 0:14:33- No, it isn't.- Yes, it is.
0:14:33 > 0:14:35- No, it isn't.- Yes, it is. - All right...
0:14:35 > 0:14:37We need to think about the younger generations,
0:14:37 > 0:14:40the people that are going to bring this country forward in the future,
0:14:40 > 0:14:43- but you're not.- If we want to vote to leave this organisation,
0:14:43 > 0:14:44let's vote to leave it,
0:14:44 > 0:14:47but let's not do it on the basis of three things
0:14:47 > 0:14:49that are completely untrue.
0:14:49 > 0:14:52If we leave the European Union, the world's our oyster.
0:14:52 > 0:14:54We can do what the hell we like.
0:14:54 > 0:14:55Yeah!
0:14:55 > 0:14:59Many businesses in Yorkshire also want the security and stability
0:14:59 > 0:15:02of Britain's continued membership of the European Union,
0:15:02 > 0:15:06a cause I look forward to passionately championing
0:15:06 > 0:15:08in this place and elsewhere.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11Jo was very strong to Remain.
0:15:11 > 0:15:13She did market stalls.
0:15:13 > 0:15:16She did a column in the paper about it.
0:15:16 > 0:15:18She went to talk to groups about it.
0:15:18 > 0:15:23But she was very adamant that she would be voting to Remain,
0:15:23 > 0:15:27and she tried to encourage other people to do the same.
0:15:27 > 0:15:29Very quickly, in or out?
0:15:29 > 0:15:31I'm in. We should definitely stay in Europe.
0:15:31 > 0:15:33Good for jobs, good for security,
0:15:33 > 0:15:35I don't want Scotland to leave England...
0:15:35 > 0:15:38The Remain vote was one of the things that she was working on,
0:15:38 > 0:15:40she was out, busy campaigning and knocking on doors,
0:15:40 > 0:15:42engaging with people.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45But it wasn't the only thing that she thought was important.
0:15:45 > 0:15:49She was very interested in Syria, and the problems going on there.
0:15:49 > 0:15:51Very, very passionate about trying to improve things
0:15:51 > 0:15:53for the Syrian people.
0:15:53 > 0:15:55- JO COX:- It's how history judges us.
0:15:55 > 0:15:59I believe that Syria is our generation's test.
0:15:59 > 0:16:00She genuinely believed
0:16:00 > 0:16:03that it was the biggest humanitarian crisis of our time.
0:16:03 > 0:16:06And I think, having worked for Oxfam for so many years,
0:16:06 > 0:16:08she felt like she couldn't ignore that.
0:16:08 > 0:16:10You know, she wasn't prepared to just shy away from it
0:16:10 > 0:16:12because it was a contentious issue.
0:16:12 > 0:16:16She felt very strongly that the people who needed to come here
0:16:16 > 0:16:18should be allowed to come here
0:16:18 > 0:16:20and that we should help to look after them.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22On refugees,
0:16:22 > 0:16:25what further can the UK do to get the most vulnerable people
0:16:25 > 0:16:27out of harm's way, and surely,
0:16:27 > 0:16:31isn't it time to end the Government's shameful refusal
0:16:31 > 0:16:35to give 3,000 unaccompanied children sanctuary here in the UK?
0:16:35 > 0:16:37CHEERING
0:16:37 > 0:16:40Is it not time we took back control of our immigration policy?
0:16:40 > 0:16:42And on the subject of immigration,
0:16:42 > 0:16:46I think their campaign is verging on the squalid.
0:16:46 > 0:16:47- Where are these...?- Stop shouting!
0:16:47 > 0:16:49Where are these refugees going to go?
0:16:49 > 0:16:53Do you know what? Every month, I scrape, I scrape...
0:16:54 > 0:16:57NIGEL FARAGE: The opinion polls are astonishing.
0:16:57 > 0:17:0177% of the British public want cuts to the numbers coming into Britain,
0:17:01 > 0:17:07and over half the voters want a reduction to near zero.
0:17:07 > 0:17:08We're not big enough.
0:17:08 > 0:17:11We're over... We're overdone. We're full! We're full!
0:17:14 > 0:17:17The 7th of June is...kind of focal moment, really, for him.
0:17:19 > 0:17:21One of the searches that Thomas Mair did
0:17:21 > 0:17:24was a general Wikipedia search on Jo Cox.
0:17:26 > 0:17:29And then there is a whole section on her political career,
0:17:29 > 0:17:32and the causes that she was very, very engaged with.
0:17:33 > 0:17:37You can almost imagine him sitting, becoming quite angry.
0:17:37 > 0:17:39- JO COX:- What has Europe done for Yorkshire?
0:17:39 > 0:17:44£7.8 billion worth of goods, exported to Europe.
0:17:44 > 0:17:49That is about 30,000 jobs dependent on our trade with Europe.
0:17:50 > 0:17:55And then he starts looking at an image of a .22 rim-fire rifle.
0:17:57 > 0:17:58And then a search on YouTube
0:17:58 > 0:18:03of some individuals in the United States test-firing one.
0:18:04 > 0:18:06GUNSHOTS
0:18:06 > 0:18:08HE LAUGHS
0:18:09 > 0:18:11I'm presuming that at that stage,
0:18:11 > 0:18:15he either knows how he's going to get hold of such a weapon,
0:18:15 > 0:18:18or in fact, at that point, has come into possession of that weapon.
0:18:21 > 0:18:23Around about that time,
0:18:23 > 0:18:25there would've been posters up in that library,
0:18:25 > 0:18:28saying Jo Cox will be here on the 16th of June,
0:18:28 > 0:18:30and she'll be doing a surgery on that day.
0:18:31 > 0:18:35It's where Jo's constituents could come and see Jo.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37People would come to the surgery,
0:18:37 > 0:18:40and then they would come in and speak to Jo
0:18:40 > 0:18:42and tell them what their problem was,
0:18:42 > 0:18:44and we'd tell them what we could do to help.
0:18:48 > 0:18:53All around him, he will have been, "Right, motive, opportunity...
0:18:53 > 0:18:56"Oh, opportunity, big-time opportunity."
0:18:56 > 0:18:59VOICEOVER: It's highlighting a new report from a group campaigning
0:18:59 > 0:19:01for tighter immigration controls,
0:19:01 > 0:19:03which says a quarter of a million people
0:19:03 > 0:19:06cannot face up to the big issue about immigration.
0:19:06 > 0:19:09If you're at the bottom of the pile, you've paid the price...
0:19:09 > 0:19:12If we've voted to leave, who's going to be happiest?
0:19:12 > 0:19:15It's going to be Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson,
0:19:15 > 0:19:18and a resurgent right that I think would spell disaster.
0:19:22 > 0:19:25I only saw him on the Friday before.
0:19:25 > 0:19:28We'd had a quick word - just, "Hi, how are you?"
0:19:28 > 0:19:31"Yeah, all right." "What are you doing today?"
0:19:31 > 0:19:32Erm...
0:19:32 > 0:19:36There was very little said, that wasn't run-of-the-mill,
0:19:36 > 0:19:38part of his volunteering.
0:19:40 > 0:19:43If he was feeling that way, why didn't he say something?
0:19:45 > 0:19:50What had changed from that Friday to the Thursday, when it happened?
0:19:50 > 0:19:52It just doesn't make sense.
0:19:56 > 0:19:5813th of June, he's researching -
0:19:58 > 0:20:01"is a .22 shot to the head deadly?"
0:20:01 > 0:20:05It's a very popular round, it's extremely useful,
0:20:05 > 0:20:07and no serious...
0:20:07 > 0:20:11There'd been some search history about the human anatomy,
0:20:11 > 0:20:13locations of organs, etc.
0:20:13 > 0:20:14So I have no doubt in my mind
0:20:14 > 0:20:18that he'd planned exactly where he wanted to put that knife.
0:20:27 > 0:20:29So, the day before, we'd got up,
0:20:29 > 0:20:33the kids and I were going out on our little dinghy,
0:20:33 > 0:20:35with the motor on the back,
0:20:35 > 0:20:37cos Nigel Farage was coming up the river,
0:20:37 > 0:20:40with a big "Out" flotilla.
0:20:40 > 0:20:43Nigel, you're a fraud.
0:20:43 > 0:20:45This campaign's gone way beyond the ordinary,
0:20:45 > 0:20:48far past the usual insults and intrigue of politics.
0:20:48 > 0:20:52A group of friends had decided that we'd go out with our "In" flags.
0:20:52 > 0:20:55It was all very, sort of, er, light-hearted.
0:20:55 > 0:20:58So we jumped onto the boats, and Jo had helped get the kids ready,
0:20:58 > 0:21:02into their life jackets, and given them a flag to hold each.
0:21:02 > 0:21:05Then I zipped off, and Jo was taking some pictures.
0:21:05 > 0:21:08Then we all waved her goodbye as we came past the pontoon.
0:21:08 > 0:21:11She then went up to the constituency,
0:21:11 > 0:21:14and that was the last time that we...that we saw her.
0:21:26 > 0:21:29The earliest point that we've got him within the library
0:21:29 > 0:21:31is on the previous day, on the 15th,
0:21:31 > 0:21:33when he's in, speaking to members of staff.
0:21:35 > 0:21:37Specifically asking about the Jo Cox surgery
0:21:37 > 0:21:40that was due to take place the following day.
0:21:41 > 0:21:43Asking questions about the time,
0:21:43 > 0:21:46asking questions about whether he needed to book an appointment.
0:21:51 > 0:21:54He had a black holdall, sports holdall,
0:21:54 > 0:21:56it does appear to be containing something heavy.
0:21:59 > 0:22:02I think he's pretty much had hold of the weapon, wherever he's had it,
0:22:02 > 0:22:05in his possession. You know, he's had it with him.
0:22:11 > 0:22:14Every Wednesday evening, down at the centre,
0:22:14 > 0:22:16we have a demonstration of mediumship.
0:22:18 > 0:22:21We also have holistic therapies and massage.
0:22:22 > 0:22:26Now, I was upstairs, when a gentleman came in,
0:22:26 > 0:22:29wanting some more information.
0:22:30 > 0:22:33He'd passed the centre on a regular basis,
0:22:33 > 0:22:36he'd always wondered what it was about,
0:22:36 > 0:22:38but never had the courage to come in.
0:22:40 > 0:22:44He'd been suffering with depression and anxiety for a long time,
0:22:44 > 0:22:46and was on medication.
0:22:47 > 0:22:51He was looking at things to work alongside what he was taking.
0:22:53 > 0:22:57As people started to arrive, he became more uncomfortable,
0:22:57 > 0:23:01more restless, like moving side to side.
0:23:01 > 0:23:06He asked if I would be there on Thursday morning, which I said yes,
0:23:06 > 0:23:10and my colleague Suzanne would be there, as well.
0:23:10 > 0:23:12And we could sit down and have a cuppa, and a chat,
0:23:12 > 0:23:17and go through different therapies and things in more detail.
0:23:17 > 0:23:21I asked him his name, and he said Tommy.
0:23:21 > 0:23:24And I said, "I'll see you tomorrow, Tommy."
0:23:33 > 0:23:36She had a sort of small cottage-type place,
0:23:36 > 0:23:40and in true Jo form, she had no food, or milk, or anything.
0:23:40 > 0:23:41SHE LAUGHS
0:23:41 > 0:23:44She was so focused on the bigger picture,
0:23:44 > 0:23:47that the day-to-day stuff just got forgotten.
0:23:47 > 0:23:49She never had any food, so you always had to feed her.
0:23:49 > 0:23:51She never had anything to wear, so you always
0:23:51 > 0:23:54had to find her something to wear, and she never had any cash.
0:23:54 > 0:23:56You always had to, you know, sort her out with some money.
0:23:56 > 0:23:59So generally, Mum would feed her, she would borrow my clothes,
0:23:59 > 0:24:01and Dad would sort out the cash.
0:24:01 > 0:24:05She'd rang her mum at night, at about nine, half nine, saying,
0:24:05 > 0:24:08"Mum, I've just got home, but I've got no food, no milk, or anything,
0:24:08 > 0:24:09"and I'm really hungry."
0:24:09 > 0:24:11So her mum had said, "Well, what do you want?
0:24:11 > 0:24:13"Do you want a sandwich or a jacket potato?"
0:24:13 > 0:24:15She said, "Oh, it's fine. I'll just have a cheese sandwich,
0:24:15 > 0:24:16"but can you send some milk?
0:24:16 > 0:24:18"Because I've got cereal, but I've got no milk",
0:24:18 > 0:24:22so her dad, bless him, had gone out, half nine, quarter to ten at night,
0:24:22 > 0:24:27to give her the sandwich, and food, or whatever, which, obviously now,
0:24:27 > 0:24:30he's really pleased that he'd seen her the night before.
0:24:38 > 0:24:41REPORTER: Immigration is the key issue for UKIP.
0:24:41 > 0:24:45The party's latest posters feature a vast queue of people and the
0:24:45 > 0:24:49controversial warning that the EU is reaching breaking point.
0:24:51 > 0:24:53Jo came into the office,
0:24:53 > 0:24:55and she said, "Oh, what an awful thing to do."
0:24:55 > 0:24:58We were sort of saying, we can't believe
0:24:58 > 0:25:00that he'd put something like that out.
0:25:00 > 0:25:02Every one of these can get to Calais.
0:25:02 > 0:25:06We know how bad our Government is at defending our borders,
0:25:06 > 0:25:10and within a few years, all of these people will have EU passports.
0:25:10 > 0:25:14We are much less safe as part of this European Union.
0:25:26 > 0:25:30Thomas left his own home address around half nine in the morning...
0:25:32 > 0:25:36..took himself up to the Birstall retail park, just by the M62...
0:25:39 > 0:25:41..where he spent a large amount of time, simply, kind of,
0:25:41 > 0:25:45window shopping. Went into WH Smith's, read a few magazines,
0:25:45 > 0:25:46and looked at the local paper.
0:25:48 > 0:25:50For want of a better expression, he's killing time.
0:25:50 > 0:25:55Significantly, he's in possession of the bag containing the firearm.
0:25:55 > 0:25:58Equally as important, he's wearing the two baseball caps - a black one,
0:25:58 > 0:26:00underneath the cream baseball cap.
0:26:03 > 0:26:05He doesn't make any purchases, and then leaves,
0:26:05 > 0:26:08and basically tracks the same route back towards
0:26:08 > 0:26:11his home address and indeed goes home for a short period of time.
0:26:19 > 0:26:22Jo came to us at about 11 o'clock. I think,
0:26:22 > 0:26:26initially, she was scheduled to be with us for about an hour.
0:26:26 > 0:26:28Everyone wants to see the fire engines being built,
0:26:28 > 0:26:30that's the bit they want to go and see.
0:26:32 > 0:26:36Obviously, we were fast approaching the In/Out referendum.
0:26:37 > 0:26:39She threw that pebble in the pond,
0:26:39 > 0:26:41it was very much Jo said,
0:26:41 > 0:26:42"So, go on, dare I ask,
0:26:42 > 0:26:44"how are you all voting in here?"
0:26:44 > 0:26:46The bulk of that office
0:26:46 > 0:26:49was in favour of leaving the European Union,
0:26:49 > 0:26:51so she had a tough job.
0:26:51 > 0:26:53But it was really well-handled.
0:26:53 > 0:26:56Jo was respectful of people's views.
0:26:56 > 0:26:58She listened.
0:26:58 > 0:27:02I just instantly felt a lot of warmth for Jo for that.
0:27:02 > 0:27:05That we could have quite different opinions,
0:27:05 > 0:27:08and yet, still, really,
0:27:08 > 0:27:11clearly, get on and have a mutual respect for one another.
0:27:21 > 0:27:24Interestingly, every time he seems to leave the address,
0:27:24 > 0:27:26he's got a bag of rubbish with him.
0:27:26 > 0:27:28It seems to be part of his routine, leaving his property,
0:27:28 > 0:27:31he takes his refuse with him
0:27:31 > 0:27:32and dumps it just around the corner.
0:27:37 > 0:27:40Instead of turning left towards the retail park,
0:27:40 > 0:27:42he takes the right-hand turn, and goes, effectively,
0:27:42 > 0:27:45down towards Birstall town centre.
0:27:49 > 0:27:52There's significant CCTV in and around Market Square,
0:27:52 > 0:27:54from both the local authority systems,
0:27:54 > 0:27:56and also from private systems,
0:27:56 > 0:27:59and we can effectively track his movements.
0:28:03 > 0:28:08It was the day of the England match, it was England v Wales.
0:28:08 > 0:28:11And I said to my mum that I was going to meet a few friends...
0:28:12 > 0:28:14..in the pub.
0:28:14 > 0:28:17I got off the bus,
0:28:17 > 0:28:20I seen Tommy stood at the bus stop.
0:28:21 > 0:28:23I said hello to him.
0:28:24 > 0:28:27He didn't say hello back, and I did a double-take,
0:28:27 > 0:28:29noticed he had a suit jacket on, which was...
0:28:30 > 0:28:32I'd never seen him wearing a suit jacket.
0:28:33 > 0:28:37He was fiddling about with t'lapels, trying to make himself look tidy,
0:28:37 > 0:28:39and I thought he just mustn't have heard me.
0:28:41 > 0:28:42I didn't think anything else of it.
0:28:42 > 0:28:45I thought he was getting on the bus that I'd just got off.
0:28:45 > 0:28:47And I went into the pub.
0:28:49 > 0:28:53His movements from the CCTV would indicate that he'd done some form of
0:28:53 > 0:28:56reconnaissance before the incident, and therefore
0:28:56 > 0:28:59knew what vehicle to look out for.
0:29:00 > 0:29:04He's milling about, he purchases a chocolate bar,
0:29:04 > 0:29:06and we see him eat the chocolate bar,
0:29:06 > 0:29:07and dispose of the wrapper
0:29:07 > 0:29:10just opposite the shop called The Vape Lounge,
0:29:10 > 0:29:13where he's got a perfect vantage point down towards the library.
0:29:19 > 0:29:23She was supposed to head back into the office for 12 o'clock.
0:29:23 > 0:29:25But I knew Jo would never come at that time.
0:29:25 > 0:29:26She was always late. Obviously,
0:29:26 > 0:29:30we had the surgery booked for one o'clock, so we ideally wanted
0:29:30 > 0:29:32to get to Birstall for about quarter to, ten to.
0:29:34 > 0:29:38She came into the office at 12...I think about 35.
0:29:40 > 0:29:44Jo burst into the office, as usual, "Hiya!"
0:29:44 > 0:29:47And I said, "You're late!"
0:29:47 > 0:29:49And she said, "Yes, I know I'm late, but I've had a fabulous morning.
0:29:49 > 0:29:53"Come here and give me a massive hug, cos I haven't seen you
0:29:53 > 0:29:55"for two weeks. Did you have a nice holiday?"
0:29:55 > 0:29:59And then we said, "Look, we're going to have to go very soon,
0:29:59 > 0:30:01"or we're going to be late for the surgery."
0:30:01 > 0:30:03And she said, "Yes, I know, but I'm bloody starving."
0:30:03 > 0:30:06I said, "We don't have time for you to get a sandwich,
0:30:06 > 0:30:08"but I've got a pasta bake for you in the fridge.
0:30:08 > 0:30:11"Heat it up in the microwave, and you can have it on the way."
0:30:11 > 0:30:13She literally, like,
0:30:13 > 0:30:16wolfed a whole plate of pasta down from the top of the steps to the
0:30:16 > 0:30:19bottom of the steps, and left the bowl at the bottom, and said,
0:30:19 > 0:30:22"I'll leave it here, then we'll take it up later when we come."
0:30:23 > 0:30:28I locked the door, Jo and Fazila were walking up the marketplace,
0:30:28 > 0:30:30and I just watched them, and thought
0:30:30 > 0:30:32how sweet they looked, chatting away,
0:30:32 > 0:30:36and Jo tip-topping along in her high heels.
0:30:36 > 0:30:40And then we just got in the car to go to the surgery.
0:30:42 > 0:30:46He's constantly looking down towards the library, and certainly,
0:30:46 > 0:30:48on one occasion, he makes his way across,
0:30:48 > 0:30:50as if heading down towards the library.
0:30:50 > 0:30:54My view there is, it's a potential false call, if you like.
0:30:54 > 0:30:56That something's drawn his attention, potentially
0:30:56 > 0:31:00a vehicle arriving that contained Jo Cox, and then, clearly,
0:31:00 > 0:31:03he turns around and comes back to his vantage point
0:31:03 > 0:31:05at the side of the bus stop.
0:31:09 > 0:31:11Birstall is quite a small little village,
0:31:11 > 0:31:13and it's got quite limited parking,
0:31:13 > 0:31:16and very rarely do we find parking outside the library.
0:31:16 > 0:31:19But it just so happened that day there were two parking spots, and I,
0:31:19 > 0:31:21sort of, even commented and said,
0:31:21 > 0:31:24"Oh, look, we've found a parking spot right where we want it!"
0:31:27 > 0:31:30Jo jumped out, and Sandra got out,
0:31:30 > 0:31:33and Jo sort of walked behind my car towards the pavement,
0:31:33 > 0:31:35towards where Sandra was.
0:31:45 > 0:31:48I saw a man coming towards us.
0:31:48 > 0:31:49And he just, erm...
0:31:50 > 0:31:52..shot Jo in the head.
0:31:53 > 0:31:55Just like that.
0:31:56 > 0:31:59He didn't speak a word, didn't say anything.
0:31:59 > 0:32:01Just walked down the road and shot Jo.
0:32:04 > 0:32:07I heard a loud bang,
0:32:07 > 0:32:09"Oh, dear, what were that?"
0:32:09 > 0:32:11So I stood up and went to the door.
0:32:13 > 0:32:15I was a bit shocked.
0:32:16 > 0:32:19At first, I had this irrational thought
0:32:19 > 0:32:23that it was some sort of publicity stunt about Brexit.
0:32:23 > 0:32:26Just for a moment, I thought it couldn't be real.
0:32:26 > 0:32:27It was surreal.
0:32:27 > 0:32:30The gun seemed like it wasn't a real gun.
0:32:30 > 0:32:33It sounded like a starting pistol or something.
0:32:33 > 0:32:36And then Jo fell back on the floor, and...
0:32:36 > 0:32:39erm, and I saw that there was blood.
0:32:39 > 0:32:43And then, while she was on the floor, he started stabbing her.
0:32:45 > 0:32:47I saw this bloke with a knife,
0:32:47 > 0:32:49stabbing someone, so I went back into the library
0:32:49 > 0:32:52and I said to anybody who'd listen,
0:32:52 > 0:32:55"Call the police, quick, call the police."
0:32:55 > 0:32:58I was trying to swing at him with my handbag,
0:32:58 > 0:33:00unfortunately, I didn't, sort of, catch him.
0:33:00 > 0:33:03And at that point, he pulled the knife out again,
0:33:03 > 0:33:05and sort of went towards me,
0:33:05 > 0:33:07and I sort of moved back towards the car then.
0:33:07 > 0:33:11We were just shouting at him, and screaming, and...
0:33:14 > 0:33:16There wasn't really a right lot else we could do.
0:33:18 > 0:33:21Bernard Kenny sees the commotion, and goes to the scene,
0:33:21 > 0:33:25effectively to try and jump on Mair's back.
0:33:25 > 0:33:28However, before he gets there, Mair turns to face him,
0:33:28 > 0:33:30and without thought,
0:33:30 > 0:33:33plunges a knife directly into his abdomen.
0:33:36 > 0:33:40I could see, in the corner of my eye, that he was coming back.
0:33:40 > 0:33:42I mean, all I could do was say, "Jo, please get up.
0:33:42 > 0:33:46"Think of Lejla and Cuillin," you know, "Just think of the kids,
0:33:46 > 0:33:47"and please get up, please move."
0:33:47 > 0:33:50And she was saying, "Fazila, I can't move, I'm hurt."
0:33:50 > 0:33:53She shouted out to me and Fazila, and she said,
0:33:53 > 0:33:56"Get away, get away, you two.
0:33:56 > 0:33:59"Don't let him hurt you, let him hurt me."
0:34:01 > 0:34:05He came back, went to his bag, and got a gun out.
0:34:05 > 0:34:07He stood over Jo, just straddled her,
0:34:07 > 0:34:10and aimed it straight to the head.
0:34:10 > 0:34:11And shot her in the head.
0:34:12 > 0:34:14Then he stepped back,
0:34:14 > 0:34:17cocked his gun, and shot her in the midriff.
0:34:17 > 0:34:21As he'd done that, he stood up and very calmly just said,
0:34:21 > 0:34:25"That's for Britain first. Britain will always be first.
0:34:25 > 0:34:27"Britain first!" And walked off.
0:34:30 > 0:34:32He were just so calm, and...
0:34:33 > 0:34:35Not even...
0:34:36 > 0:34:38..concerned.
0:34:40 > 0:34:43My whole focus was making sure that Jo wasn't on her own.
0:34:43 > 0:34:47Obviously, she was in my arms, and, um...
0:34:48 > 0:34:49Sorry.
0:34:53 > 0:34:57Yeah, she just... I just had her in my arms, and
0:34:57 > 0:35:00obviously, there was a lot, a lot of blood.
0:35:00 > 0:35:02erm, and...
0:35:02 > 0:35:05I just made sure that I stayed with her.
0:35:06 > 0:35:10It did seem like a long time till the ambulance came.
0:35:12 > 0:35:15It did seem like...a long time.
0:35:17 > 0:35:19Like an eternity.
0:35:30 > 0:35:33I got a call from somebody in Jo's team,
0:35:33 > 0:35:35who told me that Jo had been attacked.
0:35:35 > 0:35:41I sort of ran into the station, just thinking, you know, just...
0:35:41 > 0:35:43"Just be OK."
0:35:43 > 0:35:45And, you know,
0:35:45 > 0:35:48"If you're hurt, you're injured, that's fine.
0:35:48 > 0:35:51"We'll pull you back together, we'll look after you, it'll be fine.
0:35:51 > 0:35:53"Just don't... Just don't die."
0:35:56 > 0:35:58'Hello, yes, he's shooting everybody.'
0:35:58 > 0:36:00- 'Who's shooting everybody? - The gunman.
0:36:00 > 0:36:02'He's got a black bag in his hand.
0:36:02 > 0:36:04'He's got a black bag in his hand?
0:36:04 > 0:36:06'He's got a white cap on.
0:36:06 > 0:36:09'He's walking now towards... If you get the helicopter,
0:36:09 > 0:36:12'he's walking towards Huddersfield Road.
0:36:12 > 0:36:14'He's walking towards Huddersfield Road?
0:36:15 > 0:36:17'Near The Vaults pub.'
0:36:19 > 0:36:22Thomas Mair turns onto John Nelson Close,
0:36:22 > 0:36:26where he basically walks into the rear garden of a property
0:36:26 > 0:36:29which was quite heavily overgrown,
0:36:29 > 0:36:32where he makes efforts to change his appearance.
0:36:32 > 0:36:35Basically, removed his outer clothing,
0:36:35 > 0:36:37so he's now wearing a grey T-shirt,
0:36:37 > 0:36:40and the black hat.
0:36:40 > 0:36:43The overcoat was discarded, was forensically examined,
0:36:43 > 0:36:46and contained blood of Jo Cox.
0:36:47 > 0:36:50He discharges the spent cartridge in that garden,
0:36:50 > 0:36:52and reloads the firearm,
0:36:52 > 0:36:55placing that back in the bag, with the safety catch off,
0:36:55 > 0:36:57effectively ready to fire again.
0:36:58 > 0:37:02So having done that, he has then jumped back over the fence,
0:37:02 > 0:37:05and comes, re-emerges out of the side of The Vaults pub.
0:37:05 > 0:37:07- 'I can see him again. - You can see him again?
0:37:07 > 0:37:10- 'Looks like he's taken his hat off. - Taken his cap off?- Yes.
0:37:10 > 0:37:13'He's got a black baseball cap, he's changed it from a white one
0:37:13 > 0:37:16- 'to a black one.- And he's walking up where, love?- Roundhill Road,
0:37:16 > 0:37:18'which is up from Floyd Lane. If you get the police car to the top
0:37:18 > 0:37:21'of there, when he gets to the bottom, you'll catch him.
0:37:21 > 0:37:24I've got a marauding terrorist, at loose.
0:37:24 > 0:37:28I didn't know if this individual was now shooting other people,
0:37:28 > 0:37:32stabbing other people in the streets and the area.
0:37:34 > 0:37:36We got told by the control room that
0:37:36 > 0:37:40the suspect still had a gun, and to proceed with caution.
0:37:41 > 0:37:44I see a gentleman, and he matched the description.
0:37:44 > 0:37:47I just started running towards him.
0:37:47 > 0:37:50He's put his hands towards his shirt.
0:37:50 > 0:37:53I thought he was going for something in his waistband.
0:37:53 > 0:37:55And, um....
0:37:55 > 0:37:57I just rugby tackled him then to the floor.
0:38:04 > 0:38:06Did he anticipate that the officers
0:38:06 > 0:38:09who would engage with him would be firearms officers?
0:38:09 > 0:38:12We see, particularly in the States,
0:38:12 > 0:38:15we see this phenomena called suicide by cop.
0:38:15 > 0:38:18Was that what he anticipated those two officers were going to do
0:38:18 > 0:38:24to him? Was he intending to die in a blaze of glory, shot by the police?
0:38:25 > 0:38:28If that was his intention, unluckily for him,
0:38:28 > 0:38:30he was challenged by unarmed officers.
0:38:32 > 0:38:34I started searching him.
0:38:34 > 0:38:36I pulled out a bag of bullets.
0:38:36 > 0:38:37I said, "Where's the gun?"
0:38:37 > 0:38:40And he said, "It's in the bag."
0:38:40 > 0:38:42I think Johnny had gone off to get a first-aid kit,
0:38:42 > 0:38:44once we'd found that he had a bump on his head.
0:38:44 > 0:38:46And he said to me, "I'm a political activist."
0:38:53 > 0:38:55He wasn't the typical criminal I'd come across.
0:38:57 > 0:39:01He was fairly quietly spoken, wasn't angry towards us.
0:39:01 > 0:39:02He was fairly respectful to us.
0:39:06 > 0:39:11He was just very calm, very placid, very peaceful, really, I guess.
0:39:20 > 0:39:24I was one of the first senior police officers that arrived at the scene.
0:39:26 > 0:39:28There was a real palpable sense
0:39:28 > 0:39:31that something really horrific had occurred.
0:39:33 > 0:39:36Jo had sustained three gunshot wounds about the head,
0:39:36 > 0:39:39and 13 stab wounds.
0:39:39 > 0:39:44Many of which punctured her heart, her lungs, and her liver.
0:39:44 > 0:39:47And on her left hand, there was a through-and-through injury.
0:39:47 > 0:39:49Which is consistent with, you know,
0:39:49 > 0:39:52effectively holding her hand up to protect herself.
0:39:52 > 0:39:56Basically, an injury through her hand into her head.
0:39:57 > 0:40:01He is strong, he is savage, it's a brutal attack.
0:40:01 > 0:40:03He is going to kill her.
0:40:03 > 0:40:06There is nothing going to stop him from doing so.
0:40:06 > 0:40:09There's rage. There's real rage.
0:40:10 > 0:40:12She didn't stand a chance.
0:40:15 > 0:40:17'Just before one o'clock today, Jo Cox,
0:40:17 > 0:40:23'MP for Batley and Spen borough was attacked in Market Street, Birstall.
0:40:23 > 0:40:25'I am now very sad to have to report
0:40:25 > 0:40:29'that she has died as a result of her injuries.'
0:40:31 > 0:40:33When I were at the police station,
0:40:33 > 0:40:37I just said, "Have you heard anything?"
0:40:37 > 0:40:39And he just said, "She didn't make it."
0:40:41 > 0:40:43So then I knew she were dead.
0:40:48 > 0:40:51You literally feel your heart breaking.
0:40:51 > 0:40:54And it is, it's a physical manifestation of grief.
0:40:54 > 0:40:55I've never known anything like it.
0:40:55 > 0:40:59I thought I'd been upset before, I thought I'd been sad before,
0:40:59 > 0:41:03there's absolutely no comparison to something like this.
0:41:03 > 0:41:06It is utterly debilitating when it hits you.
0:41:07 > 0:41:11The next step was all about, how do you tell your kids?
0:41:11 > 0:41:13I mean, I was very much in shock.
0:41:13 > 0:41:16But moved very quickly into the practicalities
0:41:16 > 0:41:19of, how do I do Jo proud...
0:41:24 > 0:41:26..in...
0:41:28 > 0:41:31..in making sure that the kids are OK?
0:41:32 > 0:41:34So, yeah.
0:41:36 > 0:41:40KIDS: # You can hop, you can skip
0:41:40 > 0:41:42# But don't stop, stop, stop
0:41:42 > 0:41:45# Put your best foot forward... #
0:42:02 > 0:42:07OFFICER: I was very interested in finding out all about Thomas Mair.
0:42:07 > 0:42:09You know, immediately upon his arrest, the first question
0:42:09 > 0:42:12I asked was, "Well, who is he? What do we know about him?"
0:42:12 > 0:42:14Somebody does a check on the police national computer,
0:42:14 > 0:42:15and we've never heard of Thomas Mair.
0:42:17 > 0:42:19I mean, the question is, always, why?
0:42:21 > 0:42:26Of course, his psychiatric history, for me, is very important.
0:42:26 > 0:42:30The doctor who had seen him at the police station hadn't diagnosed him
0:42:30 > 0:42:33with any significant mental illness
0:42:33 > 0:42:35and said he is fit to be interviewed,
0:42:35 > 0:42:37he understands what's going on.
0:42:40 > 0:42:44- MALE OFFICER:- You're here for two very serious offences -
0:42:44 > 0:42:45murder...
0:42:46 > 0:42:48..and attempted murder.
0:42:50 > 0:42:55It's murder of an MP, going about her business, and attempted murder
0:42:55 > 0:43:00of an elderly gentleman who comes to assist her.
0:43:04 > 0:43:06The MP's been shot and stabbed.
0:43:07 > 0:43:09A number of times.
0:43:10 > 0:43:12And the elderly gentleman...
0:43:13 > 0:43:15..has been stabbed.
0:43:16 > 0:43:19That's why you've been arrested.
0:43:19 > 0:43:21And that's why you're being interviewed.
0:43:22 > 0:43:26And you're choosing to sit there, and say nothing at all.
0:43:26 > 0:43:28Which is your right.
0:43:28 > 0:43:30However...
0:43:32 > 0:43:37..their families, they want to know what's gone on.
0:43:44 > 0:43:48Are you prepared to give them anything as to why?
0:43:51 > 0:43:53That's what we're thinking - why?
0:43:57 > 0:44:01It's not uncommon for the police to sit in an interview room and listen
0:44:01 > 0:44:02to somebody saying, "No comment."
0:44:02 > 0:44:06But it is uncommon for us to sit and listen to somebody saying nothing,
0:44:06 > 0:44:08and he just, simply, didn't react to anything.
0:44:11 > 0:44:14- FEMALE OFFICER:- Can you see that - that people want to know
0:44:14 > 0:44:15why you've done it?
0:44:21 > 0:44:23And this is your opportunity now, to tell us that.
0:44:29 > 0:44:31So that we can make sense of it.
0:44:33 > 0:44:37His interview, in total, possibly six hours, I think it was,
0:44:37 > 0:44:38off the top of my head.
0:44:38 > 0:44:41- What did he say in that time? - Absolutely nothing.
0:44:47 > 0:44:51The gun that was used is a .22 rim-fire rifle.
0:44:52 > 0:44:55Generally used in the pest control world.
0:44:57 > 0:44:59It was stolen in August 2015.
0:45:01 > 0:45:04It has passed, I would presume, through a number of hands,
0:45:04 > 0:45:06before it's got to Thomas Mair,
0:45:06 > 0:45:08through the criminal fraternity.
0:45:09 > 0:45:13I'd taken that firearm to bits, but we found no DNA, fingerprints,
0:45:13 > 0:45:16or any traces of anybody else.
0:45:17 > 0:45:22So, acquiring a firearm for a criminal purpose is not easy,
0:45:22 > 0:45:26unless you are a criminal yourself, and you know how to get one.
0:45:28 > 0:45:32As an adult male, in the 21st century, he is, like all of us,
0:45:32 > 0:45:34an owner of a mobile telephone.
0:45:34 > 0:45:37But in three years, has sent three texts.
0:45:37 > 0:45:39And there is no call data.
0:45:40 > 0:45:44So he's not somebody who is immersed in criminality, making calls,
0:45:44 > 0:45:47wheeling and dealing, trying to get himself a firearm.
0:45:47 > 0:45:50That begs the question, how on earth did you, Thomas Mair, get that gun?
0:45:51 > 0:45:54It's an active line of inquiry, and
0:45:54 > 0:45:58I will not rest until I find out how he got that gun.
0:46:03 > 0:46:06The place he had been to immediately before killing Jo
0:46:06 > 0:46:08was his home address.
0:46:10 > 0:46:14We found lots of literature, books, magazines,
0:46:14 > 0:46:18that all seemed to link back to the far right.
0:46:19 > 0:46:21The Third Reich eagle...
0:46:22 > 0:46:25..mail order-catalogues and brochures.
0:46:25 > 0:46:29A lot of that material goes back as far as the early '90s.
0:46:30 > 0:46:32Lever-arch folder, and within that
0:46:32 > 0:46:35there were news clippings of Anders Breivik,
0:46:35 > 0:46:37and other terrorist atrocities.
0:46:38 > 0:46:42Also, Wikipedia pages of Jo Cox.
0:46:47 > 0:46:52Thomas Mair's life meant that nobody else ever went to his home.
0:46:52 > 0:46:53Nobody was able to say,
0:46:53 > 0:46:56"Blimey, Thomas, this is a little bit unhealthy."
0:46:59 > 0:47:01What are your political views?
0:47:01 > 0:47:03You say you're a political activist.
0:47:03 > 0:47:06There's chance for you now to tell me.
0:47:06 > 0:47:08Tell me about your politics.
0:47:10 > 0:47:14We know he stood above Jo as he was murdering her, and shouted,
0:47:14 > 0:47:16"Britain first."
0:47:16 > 0:47:19We asked him what he meant by it, and we didn't get an answer.
0:47:19 > 0:47:22And so, an immediate line of inquiry was, right,
0:47:22 > 0:47:25let's get into Britain First and find out, is he a member of yours?
0:47:25 > 0:47:27- Britain First!- Fighting back!
0:47:27 > 0:47:30- Britain First!- Fighting back!
0:47:31 > 0:47:33But, no, he wasn't a member of Britain First.
0:47:36 > 0:47:39It's simply the case that Thomas Mair just could not have coped
0:47:39 > 0:47:41with a Britain First meeting.
0:47:43 > 0:47:45He wouldn't have wanted to be in the company
0:47:45 > 0:47:47of a large number of other people.
0:47:47 > 0:47:49He just wouldn't have been able to function.
0:47:55 > 0:47:58He's never been linked to any other far-right organisations
0:47:58 > 0:48:00in this country. There is no evidence at all
0:48:00 > 0:48:03to support the fact that he's been on any marches,
0:48:03 > 0:48:06part of the EDL, part of the National Front,
0:48:06 > 0:48:07part of Britain First.
0:48:08 > 0:48:13So his own views and his own beliefs have been kept private.
0:48:19 > 0:48:24"..110 years after the birth of the great one, Adolf Hitler,
0:48:24 > 0:48:27"the dream of a white world finally became certainty,
0:48:27 > 0:48:31"and it was the sacrifice of the lives of uncounted thousands
0:48:31 > 0:48:32"of brave men and women
0:48:32 > 0:48:36"of the organisation which had kept that dream alive
0:48:36 > 0:48:39"until its realisation could no longer be denied..."
0:48:39 > 0:48:41Well, this, weirdly enough,
0:48:41 > 0:48:45is one of the books that Thomas Mair had on his own shelves.
0:48:45 > 0:48:47Of course, I wrote it in order to
0:48:47 > 0:48:50help academics understand fascism,
0:48:50 > 0:48:54he obviously bought it because he was actually fascinated
0:48:54 > 0:48:58by the texts that I'd put together in this volume,
0:48:58 > 0:49:01all of which are written by fascists.
0:49:01 > 0:49:05"As a cleansing hurricane of change swept over the continent,
0:49:05 > 0:49:07"clearing away, in a few months,
0:49:07 > 0:49:12"the refuse of a millennium or more of alien ideology,
0:49:12 > 0:49:17"and a century or more of profound moral and material decadence.
0:49:17 > 0:49:20"The blood flowed ankle-deep in the streets..."
0:49:23 > 0:49:27This bookcase really has the function of a shrine.
0:49:27 > 0:49:30We are looking here, not at academic books,
0:49:30 > 0:49:32we are looking at sacred texts.
0:49:34 > 0:49:37This is really high-grade literature,
0:49:37 > 0:49:38some of which is archival stuff.
0:49:38 > 0:49:40Stuff difficult to get hold of.
0:49:43 > 0:49:48What fascism allowed Thomas Mair to feel,
0:49:48 > 0:49:52when he was soaking himself in this literature,
0:49:52 > 0:49:55was that his wormlike,
0:49:55 > 0:49:57small, dysfunctional existence
0:49:57 > 0:50:01was actually part of something much greater, which would outlive him.
0:50:02 > 0:50:07Thomas Mair could feel, that in that moment, when he killed Jo Cox,
0:50:07 > 0:50:10he gained immortality for himself.
0:50:12 > 0:50:14REPORTER: 'Thomas Mair was swept
0:50:14 > 0:50:16'into the court building in a police van,
0:50:16 > 0:50:19'part of a convoy that had brought him from Yorkshire to this,
0:50:19 > 0:50:21'the most important Magistrates' Court in London.'
0:50:23 > 0:50:27Looking at Thomas Mair from the minute he stepped into the box,
0:50:27 > 0:50:31it was evident that he had something on his mind.
0:50:31 > 0:50:33He was asked to give his name.
0:50:33 > 0:50:36The magistrate was shocked by what she'd heard,
0:50:36 > 0:50:38and couldn't understand exactly what he'd said.
0:50:38 > 0:50:40So he repeated it.
0:50:40 > 0:50:45REPORTER: ' "My name is Death To Traitors, Freedom For Britain." '
0:50:45 > 0:50:48He's saying, "I am killing the race traitors.
0:50:48 > 0:50:52"I am killing the soft, left-wing, liberal, cosmopolitan,
0:50:52 > 0:50:57"foreigner-lovers, who have created this situation.
0:50:57 > 0:51:00"It's not the fault of the Pakistanis or the Romanians
0:51:00 > 0:51:04"that they are here, it's the fault of the liberal elite,
0:51:04 > 0:51:07"that welcome the free movement of peoples,
0:51:07 > 0:51:08"and the mixing up of cultures,
0:51:08 > 0:51:12"which is destroying everything that is good about the human race,
0:51:12 > 0:51:14"which is its whiteness."
0:51:20 > 0:51:25Even now, I don't think I'll ever be able to reconcile it.
0:51:25 > 0:51:29There was never any indication that he was racist in any way.
0:51:31 > 0:51:37Because the Tom that I knew was so kind, considerate, caring.
0:51:37 > 0:51:41I'm quite sad that Tom didn't feel as though he could trust me,
0:51:41 > 0:51:42or come and talk to me about it.
0:51:44 > 0:51:46And I wish he could, because I would have tried to help him,
0:51:46 > 0:51:48in any way that I could have done.
0:51:51 > 0:51:54I wish I'd spent more time talking to him on the Friday.
0:51:56 > 0:52:00And I wish we'd talked about more personal stuff, but then again,
0:52:00 > 0:52:02you can't give that attention to everybody.
0:52:05 > 0:52:08- PROFESSOR GRIFFIN:- What it demonstrates to me
0:52:08 > 0:52:11is something that I found in all the other cases of terrorism
0:52:11 > 0:52:14by lone wolves, so-called, that have been well documented,
0:52:14 > 0:52:17is that nobody is ever completely a terrorist.
0:52:18 > 0:52:23He seems to have developed a complex personality, made up of two
0:52:23 > 0:52:26almost separate people.
0:52:26 > 0:52:31Domestically, he remained a loner, a recluse,
0:52:31 > 0:52:33he didn't have intimate relationships or friendships
0:52:33 > 0:52:37with people. And that was his base personality.
0:52:37 > 0:52:39But what he obviously did, as well,
0:52:39 > 0:52:41and this is really quite extraordinary,
0:52:41 > 0:52:44is that he created another personality,
0:52:44 > 0:52:48who was a really complete fascist, Nazi racist.
0:52:49 > 0:52:53At a certain crucial point, the fascist self took over,
0:52:53 > 0:52:57then there was violence on the agenda.
0:52:57 > 0:53:00'Repeatedly stabbed and shot three times,
0:53:00 > 0:53:03'in a killing which led to the suspension of campaigning
0:53:03 > 0:53:04'in the EU referendum.'
0:53:04 > 0:53:07'Tributes keep coming, so too do the accusations.'
0:53:07 > 0:53:11'The paper says its polling shows the tragic murder of the Labour MP
0:53:11 > 0:53:14'Jo Cox shifted opinions against Brexit.'
0:53:14 > 0:53:19The Remain camp are using these awful circumstances to try to say
0:53:19 > 0:53:23that the motives of one deranged, dangerous individual,
0:53:23 > 0:53:26were similar of half the country, perhaps more,
0:53:26 > 0:53:30- who believe that we should leave the EU...- Who's saying that?
0:53:34 > 0:53:39She will live on through all the good people in the world.
0:53:39 > 0:53:41Through Brendan, through us...
0:53:45 > 0:53:49..and through her truly wonderful children, who will always know
0:53:49 > 0:53:54what an utterly amazing woman their mother was.
0:53:55 > 0:53:59She was a human being, and she was perfect.
0:53:59 > 0:54:01- CHILD:- Let's lift it up.
0:54:01 > 0:54:04The devastation I feel for the children,
0:54:04 > 0:54:06there's no words to describe how horrendous that is.
0:54:07 > 0:54:13But actually, what makes me more sad than anything is what Jo will miss.
0:54:13 > 0:54:16The first time they do this, or the first time they do that,
0:54:16 > 0:54:17you know,
0:54:17 > 0:54:20and that a mum should be a part of.
0:54:20 > 0:54:27That's by far the worst, the worst part of everything that's happened.
0:54:32 > 0:54:36Amazing and deeply touching as all of this is,
0:54:36 > 0:54:38I wish I wasn't here today.
0:54:38 > 0:54:40I'd rather be...
0:54:41 > 0:54:43I'd rather be with Jo.
0:54:45 > 0:54:49We try to remember not how cruelly she's been taken from us,
0:54:49 > 0:54:51but how unbelievably lucky we were
0:54:51 > 0:54:54to have her in our lives for so long.
0:54:55 > 0:54:58'The tensions, and the rhetoric
0:54:58 > 0:55:01'about the country being at breaking point
0:55:01 > 0:55:06'probably contributed to an atmosphere in which extreme people
0:55:06 > 0:55:09'are more likely to do extreme things.'
0:55:09 > 0:55:13I think it's very sad
0:55:13 > 0:55:17that he was so consumed with hatred that he's destroyed his own life as
0:55:17 > 0:55:18well as Jo's...
0:55:20 > 0:55:24That he, you know, tried to do something to silence Jo,
0:55:24 > 0:55:25but has, instead,
0:55:25 > 0:55:29given her a much bigger voice, a much louder platform.
0:55:29 > 0:55:31Jo's killing was political.
0:55:32 > 0:55:35It was an act of terror designed to advance
0:55:35 > 0:55:38an agenda of hatred towards others.
0:55:41 > 0:55:43- DAVID CAMERON:- The British people have voted
0:55:43 > 0:55:46to leave the European Union, and their will must be respected.
0:55:46 > 0:55:49BORIS JOHNSON: They have decided
0:55:49 > 0:55:52that it is time to vote to take back control.
0:55:52 > 0:55:55- NIGEL FARAGE:- Let June the 23rd
0:55:55 > 0:55:58go down in our history as our Independence Day!
0:55:58 > 0:56:00CHEERING
0:56:04 > 0:56:06Brexit did play a part.
0:56:08 > 0:56:10The country was divided,
0:56:10 > 0:56:13so that played a part in tensions within the community.
0:56:15 > 0:56:18But Thomas Mair's a terrorist, there's no doubt about it.
0:56:18 > 0:56:21His target was a political figure.
0:56:22 > 0:56:25But is he different to other terrorists,
0:56:25 > 0:56:27from other organisations that we see?
0:56:29 > 0:56:35Why do young Muslim men and women take themselves out of society,
0:56:35 > 0:56:40travel via western countries to Syria, and join Isil?
0:56:40 > 0:56:44Why do they do that? Because they feel disenfranchised, in many ways.
0:56:44 > 0:56:47Because, in many ways, they are brainwashed.
0:56:48 > 0:56:51But there are comparisons and similarities between what they do,
0:56:51 > 0:56:54and what Thomas Mair ultimately did,
0:56:54 > 0:56:58and how became associated with his cause, and what he was engaged with.
0:56:58 > 0:57:00So, although they are poles apart,
0:57:00 > 0:57:03actually, they are very similar in many, many ways.
0:57:07 > 0:57:12What are we doing as a society to engage with people like that?
0:57:14 > 0:57:18And I suppose it's sad that if you are not interested,
0:57:18 > 0:57:20or you are not able to interact...
0:57:21 > 0:57:25..that you can be left to your own devices, to such an extent.