0:00:14 > 0:00:16It's a sense of relief that he's going to be gone
0:00:16 > 0:00:18and that's going to be taken care of.
0:00:24 > 0:00:28This is justice. They were evil kids.
0:00:34 > 0:00:39Hope is a wonderful thing, but never lie to yourself.
0:00:50 > 0:00:52I can just tell you what I saw,
0:00:52 > 0:00:57a kid trying to be strong for his family.
0:01:34 > 0:01:37Mama, mama.
0:01:37 > 0:01:42No, sister. He says mama already, he says daddy already,
0:01:42 > 0:01:43he doesn't say sister.
0:01:45 > 0:01:47When's all your testing end?
0:01:47 > 0:01:49- Thursday.- Thursday.
0:01:49 > 0:01:53OK, so you know I'm not going to be around on Thursday, right?
0:01:53 > 0:01:55And you know why, right? Why?
0:02:00 > 0:02:01Execution?
0:02:03 > 0:02:10Yes. And do you understand about the execution?
0:02:12 > 0:02:13What's going to happen?
0:02:13 > 0:02:15He's going to die.
0:02:15 > 0:02:17Who's going to die?
0:02:17 > 0:02:20- Richard.- And do you know how?
0:02:20 > 0:02:22No.
0:02:22 > 0:02:26- Do you want to know, cos you know I'm going to be watching it?- Yes.
0:02:26 > 0:02:30OK, so they have him laying on a table
0:02:30 > 0:02:33and I walk into this small room and he will have
0:02:33 > 0:02:39his arms and legs kind of attached to the table.
0:02:39 > 0:02:43Richard will have a chance to talk and say some things if he wants to.
0:02:43 > 0:02:47Then after he's done, if he does say anything, then they'll put a
0:02:47 > 0:02:54drug in his arm. That's a drug that stops his heart and stops everything
0:02:54 > 0:02:58in his body. He goes off to sleep and doesn't wake back up.
0:03:00 > 0:03:04How do you feel about that? Are you OK with that?
0:03:04 > 0:03:11I mean, well, it should be done because, I mean...
0:03:13 > 0:03:17I don't know. It should happen, it should be done. I don't know!
0:03:17 > 0:03:20BABY CRIES
0:03:20 > 0:03:23It should be done, you are correct.
0:03:23 > 0:03:26Do not be afraid to speak how you feel.
0:03:37 > 0:03:41It was a robbery and then it turned into a kidnapping where,
0:03:41 > 0:03:45you know, three people were forced into a car at gunpoint.
0:03:45 > 0:03:47And it turned into a murder.
0:03:47 > 0:03:50It turned into, you know, an attempted triple murder.
0:03:52 > 0:03:55You know, in the beginning of that,
0:03:55 > 0:03:58the course of that crime, that was not planned.
0:03:58 > 0:04:05You know, it really should've never gotten to the point that it got.
0:04:05 > 0:04:08And, you know, I'm so sorry that it got to that point.
0:04:08 > 0:04:12I really can't make excuses for it but...
0:04:18 > 0:04:22'Today's date is September 3rd, 2002.
0:04:22 > 0:04:24'And we are in Cherokee County Sheriff's office.
0:04:24 > 0:04:28'Present in the room are myself and Richard Cobb.
0:04:28 > 0:04:32'I've got a warrant for your arrest for offence capital murder.
0:04:32 > 0:04:34'What can you tell us about that?'
0:04:38 > 0:04:41TV REPORT: 'In 2002, Richard Cobb and Buenka Adams kidnapped
0:04:41 > 0:04:44'three people from a convenience store in Rusk.
0:04:44 > 0:04:47'One of their victims wound up dead and Cobb and Adams,
0:04:47 > 0:04:50'aged 19 and 20 at the time, were sentenced to death for his murder.
0:04:50 > 0:04:53'Adams was executed in April last year,
0:04:53 > 0:04:58'now Richard Cobb faces death by lethal injection on Thursday.'
0:05:01 > 0:05:06I was 19 and looking for a job and never had worked
0:05:06 > 0:05:11a day in my life, so I got the job at the convenience store.
0:05:11 > 0:05:16And it was my third day on the job, I was still in training.
0:05:16 > 0:05:19Candace, my friend that was training me, was in the store also.
0:05:21 > 0:05:24'Last night, September 2nd, did you and
0:05:24 > 0:05:29'Buenka Adams talk about robbing the BDJ store?'
0:05:29 > 0:05:30'Yes.'
0:05:33 > 0:05:36We had a gentleman that would come into the store.
0:05:36 > 0:05:39His name was Kenneth and he would come in and help us
0:05:39 > 0:05:42take out the trash and help sweep the floor.
0:05:42 > 0:05:46The whole wall is our family.
0:05:46 > 0:05:49Here's Kenneth.
0:05:49 > 0:05:53I think that was his junior year in high school.
0:05:54 > 0:05:59Kenneth had a car wreck at the age of 19.
0:05:59 > 0:06:02Kind of set him back to where he had to start life over
0:06:02 > 0:06:07and relearn to tie his shoes and walk and eat and speak and all that.
0:06:07 > 0:06:13Right now, as far as I'm concerned, he's still here with us.
0:06:16 > 0:06:18This is a 12-gauge shotgun.
0:06:21 > 0:06:25It's typically used for hunting animals, big game.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30'Did Adams have the shotgun when he went through the front door?'
0:06:30 > 0:06:31'No.'
0:06:31 > 0:06:33'No, OK, so you had the shotgun?'
0:06:33 > 0:06:35'Yeah.'
0:06:35 > 0:06:39An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
0:06:39 > 0:06:45I'd have been glad to put them to death. Naturally.
0:06:45 > 0:06:49You said you didn't want to get into those feelings.
0:06:49 > 0:06:53Well, I, no. There were several...
0:06:53 > 0:06:55- Be careful.- Yeah.
0:07:02 > 0:07:07The two guys that went in to rob the place didn't know Kenneth was there.
0:07:09 > 0:07:13When they approached the girls, there was two girls working
0:07:13 > 0:07:16and Kenneth heard them talking
0:07:16 > 0:07:21and he came from the other side of the store and said, what's going on?
0:07:25 > 0:07:29'OK, Richard. let's start back at the beginning.
0:07:29 > 0:07:32'So Adams went in first, what did you do?'
0:07:32 > 0:07:35'He grabbed the cash and stuff and he kept on looking at me
0:07:35 > 0:07:38'for some kind of approval, or whatever.
0:07:38 > 0:07:42'Then he said, "All right, get the keys, we're going for a ride."
0:07:42 > 0:07:46'What happened after y'all got in the car?'
0:07:46 > 0:07:48LABOURED BREATHING
0:07:48 > 0:07:52'Take just a second, Richard. Catch your breath.'
0:07:58 > 0:08:00'Then we went down some back road.'
0:08:08 > 0:08:14It was a full moon that night. As we were going down this road,
0:08:14 > 0:08:19it felt like we were, like, 100 miles away from anybody.
0:08:23 > 0:08:28When we pulled up down here, this is where we parked the Cadillac.
0:08:28 > 0:08:31We get ten yards away from the car...
0:08:33 > 0:08:37Richard was standing there with the gun pointing towards me.
0:08:37 > 0:08:40Buenka had told me to get on the ground.
0:08:40 > 0:08:42And I was raped by Buenka.
0:08:47 > 0:08:53To load the shotgun you put the shells in, into the chamber
0:08:53 > 0:08:58and pull it back. It brings one into the chamber
0:08:58 > 0:09:03and then loads into the barrel and it's ready to shoot.
0:09:03 > 0:09:06They had told us to get on our knees and face that direction.
0:09:06 > 0:09:10Kenneth was back there a few feet behind me,
0:09:10 > 0:09:13and they just told him to sit still.
0:09:13 > 0:09:17'He said, "You take out the first one and I'll take out the second two."
0:09:17 > 0:09:20'So, in my shotgun, I couldn't really see too good
0:09:20 > 0:09:22'and plus I didn't want blood splattered all over me.'
0:09:22 > 0:09:26I can remember Kenneth just saying, "Man, I'm ready to go home.
0:09:26 > 0:09:29"Why don't y'all just let us go? This is just crazy."
0:09:29 > 0:09:34He had no clue what they were doing. Next thing I know, the gun went off.
0:09:34 > 0:09:35GUNSHOT
0:09:35 > 0:09:38I hear Kenneth, "They shot me. They got me.
0:09:38 > 0:09:41"Oh, my God, y'all hit me. You shot me."
0:09:41 > 0:09:48'I heard Kenneth...start screaming.'
0:09:48 > 0:09:52'You fired once, hitting Kenneth?
0:09:52 > 0:09:55'And he fired several times, hitting the girls?
0:09:57 > 0:10:01Once you shoot the gun, the shell's spent, you eject it,
0:10:01 > 0:10:04it comes out, the other one's ready to go in.
0:10:08 > 0:10:15The impact threw me forward and it felt like my left shoulder
0:10:15 > 0:10:19was blown off and my body was ringing all over.
0:10:21 > 0:10:24'Buenka Adams and Richard Cobb shot all three of their victims.
0:10:24 > 0:10:27'Kenneth Vandever was killed and 23-year-old Candace Driver
0:10:27 > 0:10:31'and 19-year-old Nikki Ansley were left for dead, but they both
0:10:31 > 0:10:35'managed to get to their feet and run to nearby homes for safety.'
0:10:36 > 0:10:40I wish I could just go to sleep and never think of all of it again.
0:10:43 > 0:10:48I have dreams of being shot all the time.
0:10:54 > 0:11:00I sit in a cage pretty much 22, 23 hours out of every single day.
0:11:00 > 0:11:05Get to go out to a barren day room and spend an hour doing chin-ups.
0:11:05 > 0:11:07Or whatever exercise.
0:11:07 > 0:11:11Or, you know, walking around, mainly just pacing around.
0:11:11 > 0:11:16You can make excuses all day long but, you know, it-it-it happened.
0:11:16 > 0:11:20What's done is done, it can never be taken away, you can't change it.
0:11:20 > 0:11:22You know, always at the forefront of my mind is
0:11:22 > 0:11:24there's not going to be any second chance,
0:11:24 > 0:11:27the State doesn't care to rehabilitate me, you know?
0:11:27 > 0:11:31I'm an un-regenerable speck of cancer that needs to be
0:11:31 > 0:11:35excised from humanity before I grow and develop into something darker.
0:11:40 > 0:11:45Like tomorrow, it's very likely that I'll be executed.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48You know, as we speak, you know,
0:11:48 > 0:11:52I've been awake for something like 37, 38 hours.
0:11:52 > 0:11:56For the past probably two weeks, you know,
0:11:56 > 0:12:00I've spent a lot of time just retreating into myself,
0:12:00 > 0:12:05trying to divorce myself from, you know, this forum.
0:12:05 > 0:12:08You know, from this mortal coil and just
0:12:08 > 0:12:12trying to renounce a lot of it and trying to
0:12:12 > 0:12:18get ready for whatever type of transcendence might come, you know?
0:12:18 > 0:12:23And just try to detach yourself from all the attachments,
0:12:23 > 0:12:31the desires, you know, the anger, the resentment, the remorse.
0:12:35 > 0:12:37HE SIGHS
0:12:46 > 0:12:48Yeah, I'm angry.
0:12:48 > 0:12:50I'll always be angry.
0:12:50 > 0:12:53I wish that I could say that I'm the mum,
0:12:53 > 0:12:56that I forgive and could forget.
0:12:56 > 0:12:59I can't forgive this, I don't want to forgive this.
0:13:00 > 0:13:08Put yourself in my shoes. If it was your child, your father,
0:13:08 > 0:13:12your mother, your infant, what would you want?
0:13:18 > 0:13:21It's a nightmare we all relive.
0:13:21 > 0:13:23It will never go away,
0:13:23 > 0:13:26just because the second one's being put down
0:13:26 > 0:13:28does not mean that it's over.
0:13:28 > 0:13:31We always look over our shoulder now.
0:13:31 > 0:13:35Once something like this happens to you, or an immediate family,
0:13:35 > 0:13:38you always look over your shoulder.
0:13:38 > 0:13:41I cannot comprehend any parent,
0:13:41 > 0:13:44if something like this happen to their child
0:13:44 > 0:13:46and not want them dead.
0:13:48 > 0:13:51And sometimes maybe I'm too direct but, you know,
0:13:51 > 0:13:52if you had a child,
0:13:52 > 0:13:56or do you believe in the death penalty yourself?
0:13:56 > 0:14:00Good. Do you believe in it? Do you believe in it?
0:14:00 > 0:14:04I don't really discuss it, sorry, it's kind of an impartiality thing.
0:14:06 > 0:14:08Well, do you have a child, a young daughter?
0:14:08 > 0:14:10I can't discuss it, sir, I'm sorry.
0:14:10 > 0:14:13I mean, if I interviewed next week someone who's for,
0:14:13 > 0:14:17- against the death penalty, I mean. - Yeah, well, maybe, you know...
0:14:17 > 0:14:21She doesn't want somebody to go through what she went through
0:14:21 > 0:14:24to realise what the death penalty's about.
0:14:24 > 0:14:26That's all I can say.
0:14:26 > 0:14:31- Thank you so much.- Thank you. - Thank y'all very much.
0:14:33 > 0:14:37Mama, is Richard going to get executed at the same time Buenka did?
0:14:37 > 0:14:39- And what does executed mean?- Die.
0:14:39 > 0:14:42And it's exe-CU-tion.
0:14:42 > 0:14:44SHE LAUGHS
0:14:44 > 0:14:48- Execution.- Very good.
0:15:02 > 0:15:08An offender's day on execution starts around 7.00, or 8.00am.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11That's when a special visitation would begin.
0:15:11 > 0:15:15That time is extended so family and friends would be
0:15:15 > 0:15:19able to come in and have a long extended stay with that individual.
0:15:19 > 0:15:23There is going to be correctional officers that are nearby,
0:15:23 > 0:15:26constantly documenting what that individual is doing.
0:15:26 > 0:15:28A little bit before noon,
0:15:28 > 0:15:32the person is transported to the Huntsville Unit.
0:15:35 > 0:15:39The offender will then be unloaded, finger printed,
0:15:39 > 0:15:43and then they're placed in a small holding cell that's
0:15:43 > 0:15:45just outside the execution chamber.
0:15:47 > 0:15:50Sometimes they're quite talkative,
0:15:50 > 0:15:53other times you have individuals that don't speak at all.
0:15:53 > 0:15:55And do people get upset?
0:15:57 > 0:15:58In what respect?
0:16:00 > 0:16:02Emotional.
0:16:02 > 0:16:03Very rarely.
0:16:05 > 0:16:07'Tonight here in Huntsville, Texas,
0:16:07 > 0:16:12'the execution capital of the United States, a man by the name
0:16:12 > 0:16:16'of Richard Cobb will be murdered by the State of Texas.'
0:16:16 > 0:16:19- RADIO:- 'Richard Cobb has been under what's called the death watch
0:16:19 > 0:16:20'for about three days.
0:16:20 > 0:16:23'The prison tells us he's been spending a lot of time
0:16:23 > 0:16:25'visiting with his family, he's also been writing notes,
0:16:25 > 0:16:28'but we don't know who those notes have been to, or what they've said.
0:16:28 > 0:16:30'He's been consulting with his lawyer.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32'One of Cobb's two living victims,
0:16:32 > 0:16:34'Nikki Daniels, is here to witness the execution.
0:16:34 > 0:16:37'We're also expecting to hear from family of Ken Vandever,
0:16:37 > 0:16:40'he was the man who was killed in that 2002 robbery.
0:16:40 > 0:16:42'Earlier in this newscast...'
0:16:42 > 0:16:45As far as the punishment,
0:16:45 > 0:16:49I can see both sides of people's thinking about the death penalty.
0:16:49 > 0:16:54I think in cases such as this one
0:16:54 > 0:16:57where it is totally clear cut...
0:16:58 > 0:17:03I think that the death penalty was definitely in order.
0:17:03 > 0:17:06I just wished it hadn't taken so long.
0:17:06 > 0:17:09About 4.45, the US Supreme Court reviewed the appeal and
0:17:09 > 0:17:12they subsequently denied that appeal.
0:17:12 > 0:17:15So at this point, we'll be moving forward with
0:17:15 > 0:17:17the execution a little after 6.00pm.
0:17:17 > 0:17:21Right now, Cobb is in a holding cell just outside the execution chamber.
0:17:21 > 0:17:23He's about 15 feet away.
0:17:23 > 0:17:25He's making telephone calls again to family and friends,
0:17:25 > 0:17:28there's also a spiritual advisor that's there,
0:17:28 > 0:17:31and he'll also have an opportunity to meet with his attorney as well.
0:17:31 > 0:17:33- Thanks, guys.- Thanks, Jason.
0:17:42 > 0:17:45I have been thinking that he may ask for forgiveness,
0:17:45 > 0:17:52so I have decided that I'm going to carry in a paper with me.
0:17:52 > 0:17:55And nobody knows this yet.
0:17:55 > 0:17:57I'm actually going to have to fold it up real small
0:17:57 > 0:18:00and put it down there where it's just not real noticeable.
0:18:00 > 0:18:03Cos nobody knows and I don't want anybody to know in the actual
0:18:03 > 0:18:07walls of the execution room that if he does present it
0:18:07 > 0:18:12then I'm going to hold up my sign and have it on the window...
0:18:12 > 0:18:13that says that.
0:18:16 > 0:18:18OK, y'all ready? We all need to go.
0:18:20 > 0:18:22You don't have anything in your pockets?
0:18:27 > 0:18:30There is nothing left standing in the way.
0:18:30 > 0:18:33A Cherokee County man will die for murder, kidnapping
0:18:33 > 0:18:34and sexual assault.
0:18:34 > 0:18:37We're going to have the latest on the execution of Richard Cobb
0:18:37 > 0:18:38coming up in a live report.
0:18:38 > 0:18:41Brooke says as soon as you find out he's officially dead,
0:18:41 > 0:18:44even before cut-in, let her know.
0:18:52 > 0:18:57We typically hear that the execution's going to move forward
0:18:57 > 0:18:58from the Warden's office.
0:19:01 > 0:19:04At that point, I'll let the media know.
0:19:04 > 0:19:08We'll then walk over from our office across the street
0:19:08 > 0:19:10into the Walls Unit.
0:19:12 > 0:19:15- PROTESTOR:- 'The murder of Richard Cobb is about to begin
0:19:15 > 0:19:17'in The State of Texas.'
0:19:19 > 0:19:23The Warden will walk back to the area where the offender is
0:19:23 > 0:19:26being held and he'll tell the offender it's time.
0:19:26 > 0:19:30They will open up the door and the offender will walk out
0:19:30 > 0:19:33and go into the execution chamber.
0:19:33 > 0:19:35There's a small step that they'll get up
0:19:35 > 0:19:37and then get on the gurney and lay down.
0:19:37 > 0:19:39They're strapped in.
0:19:39 > 0:19:43A special team will then come in and insert the IVs
0:19:43 > 0:19:45into the individual's arms.
0:19:45 > 0:19:48Once all of that is up and operational
0:19:48 > 0:19:53then the witnesses are brought in. The door is shut.
0:19:53 > 0:19:56The Warden will ask the offender if they have any last statement.
0:19:58 > 0:20:01Once he's finished, then the drugs begin to flow.
0:20:06 > 0:20:10Killing me is not going to give anyone the peace
0:20:10 > 0:20:12that they're looking for.
0:20:12 > 0:20:15All it's going to do is continue the cycle, the cycle of violence.
0:20:15 > 0:20:18It's not going to stop, you know, it's just going to continue.
0:20:18 > 0:20:22There's not going to...from every negative situation, from every
0:20:22 > 0:20:25dark situation, there's room for growth. No matter what it is.
0:20:25 > 0:20:29All of the anger, all of the pain, all of the hatred,
0:20:29 > 0:20:33that's never going to go away, it's, it's always going to be there.
0:20:33 > 0:20:36If they kill me, it's always going to be there regardless.
0:20:41 > 0:20:44What's done is done, it can never be taken away.
0:20:55 > 0:20:59It felt like my left shoulder had blown off
0:20:59 > 0:21:02and my body was ringing all over.
0:21:04 > 0:21:08I watched them walk over to me and as they were standing over me
0:21:08 > 0:21:12they said, "Are you bleeding, Nikki, are you bleeding?
0:21:12 > 0:21:17"If you don't answer us we're going to blow your head off."
0:21:17 > 0:21:19I never moved, never answered them.
0:21:21 > 0:21:24And they kind of nudged me with their foot.
0:21:26 > 0:21:31And then they just kicked over and over and over again.
0:21:31 > 0:21:34It felt like they would never stop kicking.
0:21:37 > 0:21:43When they finally got done kicking, they had
0:21:43 > 0:21:46squatted down to where my head was and they had
0:21:46 > 0:21:48picked my ponytail up,
0:21:48 > 0:21:51to pick my head up off the ground.
0:21:51 > 0:21:53And they got real close to my face
0:21:53 > 0:21:56and got this lighter down within three inches
0:21:56 > 0:22:00of my eyes and I can still feel the heat coming off of that lighter.
0:22:01 > 0:22:05I remember looking at both of them and seeing four eyes staring
0:22:05 > 0:22:07right back at me and they were just staring at me.
0:22:09 > 0:22:13After a few seconds they said, she's dead, we can go.
0:22:52 > 0:22:55OK, can you please say and spell your first and last name?
0:22:55 > 0:22:59Sure, it's Jason Clark, J-A-S-O-N, Clark, C-L-A-R-K,
0:22:59 > 0:23:02Spokesperson for The Texas Department of Criminal Justice.
0:23:06 > 0:23:08Richard Cobb was executed tonight
0:23:08 > 0:23:11and he was pronounced deceased at 6.27pm.
0:23:13 > 0:23:16I had these gut feelings that I thought
0:23:16 > 0:23:19he was going to be remorseful, I thought he was going to be apologetic,
0:23:19 > 0:23:23I thought he was going to, or I was hoping he was going to address me.
0:23:23 > 0:23:26If he was going to ask for forgiveness, I was going to let him
0:23:26 > 0:23:28know that I forgive him.
0:23:29 > 0:23:31Cobb did make a last statement.
0:23:31 > 0:23:35He said, "Life is death, death is life, I hope that some day
0:23:35 > 0:23:40"this absurdity that humanity has come to an end, life is too short.
0:23:40 > 0:23:43"I hope that anyone that has negative energy towards me
0:23:43 > 0:23:47"will resolve that, life is too short to harbour feelings of hatred
0:23:47 > 0:23:49"and anger, that's it."
0:23:49 > 0:23:52He then lifted his head and said, wow and used an expletive
0:23:52 > 0:23:56and then lost consciousness and was pronounced deceased at 6.27pm.
0:23:59 > 0:24:01So I gather this is too easy for him,
0:24:01 > 0:24:03think it should have been, you know, tougher?
0:24:03 > 0:24:06Well, if I had a say and the law could change for what
0:24:06 > 0:24:09I said, it was way too easy.
0:24:10 > 0:24:13Yes, it needs to be harsher and I think all of our kids in schools
0:24:13 > 0:24:17and all need to see it, maybe then it would turn them
0:24:17 > 0:24:19away from wanting to do any of this crime.
0:24:19 > 0:24:21Do you think it ought to be televised?
0:24:21 > 0:24:26No, it needs to be done on a courtroom lawn.
0:24:26 > 0:24:27Courtroom lawn.
0:24:27 > 0:24:30And if you want to do that, let's do it half-time at the football games,
0:24:30 > 0:24:32hope we can get some people there then.
0:24:35 > 0:24:41Whenever it was his last breaths, he turned to my direction
0:24:41 > 0:24:45and was not looking directly at me, but was looking my way where
0:24:45 > 0:24:53he could see me and I'm glad that he did because it, yeah...
0:24:53 > 0:24:55I'm glad I was the last visual he probably
0:24:55 > 0:24:57- saw in there before he died.- Yes.
0:25:07 > 0:25:09I did not show him my sign.
0:25:11 > 0:25:16I did not feel that he deserved to know that I forgave him, he did
0:25:16 > 0:25:19not deserve anything, he deserved to be...
0:25:20 > 0:25:23..die brutally and he didn't.
0:25:33 > 0:25:37- So now we're going to go eat dinner. - Have a drink.
0:25:37 > 0:25:38And celebrate.
0:25:52 > 0:25:56Is there anything that you would like to say to the Cobb family?
0:25:58 > 0:26:00We don't know any of the Cobb family.
0:26:03 > 0:26:10The process we've been through makes you...
0:26:10 > 0:26:14It has changed us and it makes you hard.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17We certainly know how they feel,
0:26:17 > 0:26:21because we have lost a son as well.
0:26:23 > 0:26:25And it hurts.
0:26:28 > 0:26:30- Let's go. - Thank you for being here.
0:26:35 > 0:26:40When he found out that the stay did not go through he called me
0:26:40 > 0:26:45at 5.30 and he said, Mom, he said, it's on,
0:26:45 > 0:26:49he said I didn't get a stay, he said now you listen to me.
0:26:49 > 0:26:51And Richard, when Richard would get nervous,
0:26:51 > 0:26:55or scared he'd talk real fast.
0:26:55 > 0:26:57He said, understand, Mom, this was not your fault.
0:27:00 > 0:27:05I love you, I have always loved you, I will love you beyond.
0:27:05 > 0:27:08But he said do not think that this
0:27:08 > 0:27:11was your fault, it was a bad decision that I made.
0:27:14 > 0:27:17He dreamed every night of that murder.
0:27:22 > 0:27:27He would see it all act out every time.
0:27:45 > 0:27:49Your State has executed 234 death row inmates,
0:27:49 > 0:27:52more than any other Governor in modern times.
0:27:52 > 0:27:55CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:27:57 > 0:28:00What do you make of that mention of the execution of 234 people
0:28:00 > 0:28:03drew applause?
0:28:03 > 0:28:05I think Americans understand justice
0:28:05 > 0:28:09and it's a State by State issue.
0:28:09 > 0:28:12But in The State of Texas, you kill one of our children,
0:28:12 > 0:28:16you kill a police officer, you're involved with another crime
0:28:16 > 0:28:18and you kill one of our citizens,
0:28:18 > 0:28:23you will face the ultimate justice and that is you will be executed.
0:28:44 > 0:28:47My school, all they know is that there's a family emergency
0:28:47 > 0:28:50and I'm just going home, they're not going to find out what it is.
0:28:50 > 0:28:52They, they're all assuming that maybe,
0:28:52 > 0:28:55like they're all assuming that it's maybe,
0:28:55 > 0:28:58like a sibling has some type of terminal disease, or cancer
0:28:58 > 0:29:02and we're just waiting for them to, like take their last breath.
0:29:05 > 0:29:07I don't want this to affect me throughout my college career,
0:29:07 > 0:29:09people finding out what it is and oh,
0:29:09 > 0:29:12I'm that girl whose brother's on death row.
0:29:12 > 0:29:15I don't need people's pity because of my brother,
0:29:15 > 0:29:18I want them to treat me as I am, or how I act at school,
0:29:18 > 0:29:21I don't want them to think of me any differently.
0:29:27 > 0:29:30My parents provided me with every opportunity,
0:29:30 > 0:29:35they gave me what I needed to make good decisions, I choose to make bad
0:29:35 > 0:29:39decisions and that's me and I place no blame on no-one else but me.
0:30:00 > 0:30:03Well, I'm in a hotel right now. I'll be here for like a week
0:30:03 > 0:30:06until all this is over.
0:30:06 > 0:30:09I know that this is overwhelming but,
0:30:09 > 0:30:15- um, Anthony really stands out from...- OK.
0:30:15 > 0:30:21..from a lot of the clients I, I've seen and I, I can't predict,
0:30:21 > 0:30:24as much as I know about the case it's, it's very difficult, um...
0:30:24 > 0:30:27OK, well you know you can call any time, Mr Ellis.
0:30:28 > 0:30:31His attorney, Mr Richard Ellis,
0:30:31 > 0:30:36he's actually taken Anthony's case personal, he believes that he should
0:30:36 > 0:30:41not be on death row, he said that it could go to the wire, meaning
0:30:41 > 0:30:45to the end on, on Thursday, but he
0:30:45 > 0:30:48believes that he should get a stay.
0:30:48 > 0:30:54You know, we, we still have 72 hours, you know,
0:30:54 > 0:30:57before it happens, I mean we're still counting down.
0:31:02 > 0:31:05Barring any last minute intervention, Houston cop killer
0:31:05 > 0:31:08Anthony Haynes will be executed by lethal injection.
0:31:08 > 0:31:13Haynes is on death row for the 1998 shooting of off-duty officer
0:31:13 > 0:31:16Sergeant Kent Kincaid of The Houston Police Department.
0:31:16 > 0:31:19The officer WAS off-duty but pulled Haynes over,
0:31:19 > 0:31:22identified himself as a police officer, was reaching for his
0:31:22 > 0:31:27badge in his back pocket when he was shot by Haynes in the left eye.
0:31:29 > 0:31:33I think it's easier to be in prison on death row as a younger
0:31:33 > 0:31:36person because you haven't experienced life, you don't
0:31:36 > 0:31:40have the, you don't have, I wasn't married, I didn't have kids,
0:31:40 > 0:31:45I did, I got to experience life on a certain level, but I wasn't grown.
0:31:48 > 0:31:52In my dreams, it's all about the past, even though
0:31:52 > 0:31:56consciously I don't think about it, I dream about old friends,
0:31:56 > 0:32:01old family members, high school, eating good food, you know,
0:32:01 > 0:32:05spending time with my friend, my girlfriend and family, you know?
0:32:05 > 0:32:08It's all about the past, always.
0:32:10 > 0:32:14As a kid, he played soccer. He played a little
0:32:14 > 0:32:20flag football, and he was always involved,
0:32:20 > 0:32:24really involved, deeply involved in the ROTC programme, so whenever they
0:32:24 > 0:32:29had summer camps, or things to do, he would always be involved in that.
0:32:29 > 0:32:32Most of the kids who get into that programme, those programmes,
0:32:32 > 0:32:36are geared to go toward, to the military when they, when they
0:32:36 > 0:32:41graduate from high school and Anthony was on that road.
0:32:43 > 0:32:47You know, when I found out what had happened it's just,
0:32:47 > 0:32:51it's just, you know, hard to accept, hard to accept.
0:32:58 > 0:33:02GUNFIRE
0:33:02 > 0:33:04EDIS presented Kincaid's mother with his cap,
0:33:04 > 0:33:07his wife was presented with The United States flag.
0:33:07 > 0:33:09Kincaid's brother-in-law read a statement
0:33:09 > 0:33:12prepared by the officer's widow, Nancy.
0:33:12 > 0:33:14"For the people that didn't know Kent very well
0:33:14 > 0:33:16"he was truly a wonderful person.
0:33:16 > 0:33:20"His family always came first, he loved hanging out at home
0:33:20 > 0:33:24"with me and the girls, he loved his job, he loved the challenge
0:33:24 > 0:33:27"of the job and the satisfaction of helping other people.
0:33:27 > 0:33:29"Thank you for your thoughts and prayers."
0:33:35 > 0:33:39I feel like I don't really remember my Dad.
0:33:39 > 0:33:42But, like, it's like wanting that
0:33:42 > 0:33:46relationship, I think, more, that makes me sad now.
0:33:46 > 0:33:50I think about a lot when I someday get married,
0:33:50 > 0:33:52he won't be there to walk us down the aisle.
0:33:55 > 0:33:56Yeah, I...
0:33:56 > 0:34:00I just get mad about missing out on everything with him.
0:34:04 > 0:34:08I would say not a single moment goes by that he's not on our mind,
0:34:08 > 0:34:13or something reminds us of him, or we wish that he was here,
0:34:13 > 0:34:16and people always ask, like what it,
0:34:16 > 0:34:19what it's been like growing up without our dad?
0:34:19 > 0:34:23And I always kinda say, like we're still growing up without our dad.
0:34:33 > 0:34:36I mean, I still have dreams about him
0:34:36 > 0:34:38and I'm almost mad at him,
0:34:38 > 0:34:41because he doesn't realise how much we've missed him.
0:34:43 > 0:34:47And he, or he doesn't realise how long he's been gone.
0:35:18 > 0:35:24It was May 22nd 1998 and Kent and I,
0:35:24 > 0:35:27we were invited to some friend's home.
0:35:29 > 0:35:32For some reason he was, like you know, I'd really like to stay home.
0:35:32 > 0:35:33I said you know, we don't,
0:35:33 > 0:35:36we don't get out very much, we don't socialise with our friends
0:35:36 > 0:35:39as much as we used to, we need to do this, you know?
0:35:41 > 0:35:48So, we decided to go to a local sports bar, which was
0:35:48 > 0:35:52just across the highway, not, not too far.
0:35:52 > 0:35:57Within, I don't know, a minute after we left,
0:35:57 > 0:36:03we had turned down the street and a truck had passed us,
0:36:03 > 0:36:06a pick-up truck
0:36:06 > 0:36:08and something hit our windshield.
0:36:12 > 0:36:19So, my husband decided well, he turned around and he followed them
0:36:19 > 0:36:22and we did not know that these kids had been out
0:36:22 > 0:36:28earlier in the evening robbing people at gunpoint.
0:36:34 > 0:36:38He followed for, for a while, they said it was 13 blocks,
0:36:38 > 0:36:43so I finally turned down the street, let him pass.
0:36:43 > 0:36:49The guy immediately follows me into the street and blocks me in a
0:36:49 > 0:36:52driveway at a perpendicular angle.
0:36:53 > 0:36:55So, put my truck in reverse and
0:36:55 > 0:37:00I jumped over the kerb and we end up being driver's side, the driver's
0:37:00 > 0:37:05side. He comes to me and he's talking about my window.
0:37:05 > 0:37:07I'm, like the window what?
0:37:07 > 0:37:13He's at least six feet tall and he says, I'm a cop,
0:37:13 > 0:37:17but as he says I'm a cop,
0:37:17 > 0:37:19he reaches for his hip,
0:37:19 > 0:37:22I can't see what he reaching for,
0:37:22 > 0:37:27but just my personal life experience tell me he's going for a weapon.
0:37:27 > 0:37:29So I fire one shot.
0:37:30 > 0:37:35- GUNSHOT - Ready! Aim!
0:37:35 > 0:37:37GUNSHOT
0:37:48 > 0:37:52My husband was just laying there on his back
0:37:52 > 0:37:55not moving.
0:37:55 > 0:37:57So, I didn't know what to do, I started to,
0:37:57 > 0:38:01I just started screaming for the neighbours to come out.
0:38:01 > 0:38:05And I, I mashed the gas, I mean I, I put it in first and I hurried up
0:38:05 > 0:38:07and got and I got up off that street.
0:38:08 > 0:38:11SHE SIGHS
0:38:22 > 0:38:26As I came round the corner here, I saw the vehicle parked,
0:38:26 > 0:38:30turned out to be Sergeant Kincaid's jeep.
0:38:30 > 0:38:33I saw a male laying on the ground in the middle of the road right
0:38:33 > 0:38:38here and there was a female that was, um, cradling him
0:38:38 > 0:38:40and was crying and screaming.
0:38:40 > 0:38:42Yeah, he was laying here, I reached out and grabbed,
0:38:42 > 0:38:43checked his pulse.
0:38:43 > 0:38:46She was sitting right here cradling his head,
0:38:46 > 0:38:50I checked his pulse real quick, he did have a faint pulse.
0:38:52 > 0:38:57Um, when the hospital helicopter came and they airlifted him,
0:38:57 > 0:39:01I stayed back to answer questions as best I could,
0:39:01 > 0:39:04um, cos I was a witness to everything
0:39:04 > 0:39:07and then we went to the hospital.
0:39:10 > 0:39:15His condition was very grave, he had a gunshot to his, to his head,
0:39:15 > 0:39:19right between his eyes, um, was laboured breathing, it was,
0:39:19 > 0:39:24he was obviously losing life very quickly, you know?
0:39:24 > 0:39:28It was a, it was a horrific scene, for sure,
0:39:28 > 0:39:32especially when you find out it's an officer that's down then absolutely,
0:39:32 > 0:39:35I mean it's, yeah, it's a brotherhood,
0:39:35 > 0:39:37somebody gets hurt and you feel it.
0:39:40 > 0:39:44Lots of police officers were there
0:39:44 > 0:39:47and doctors were there
0:39:47 > 0:39:54and they told me that there was...they couldn't save him.
0:39:54 > 0:39:56There's nothing they could do.
0:40:05 > 0:40:07I told them the next morning.
0:40:12 > 0:40:16They were so little, I just don't understand why,
0:40:16 > 0:40:18I mean they didn't understand.
0:40:18 > 0:40:23It was, it was hard to tell them, but I had to,
0:40:23 > 0:40:26I mean you have to do what you have to do.
0:40:57 > 0:41:02I haven't kept count of how many journeys I've made to visit Anthony.
0:41:04 > 0:41:06They search your car,
0:41:06 > 0:41:09search everything in it, you,
0:41:09 > 0:41:13you have to have your whole body searched and I can't touch him,
0:41:13 > 0:41:16I haven't been able to touch him in 13 years.
0:41:24 > 0:41:27He, like, kind of lives are family spirits.
0:41:27 > 0:41:30Like, we're supposed to be his anchor, he's like ours.
0:41:33 > 0:41:35I try to leave things on a happy note,
0:41:35 > 0:41:38because by the end of the visit, as to getting a little teary, but it's
0:41:38 > 0:41:41like, deep breaths and I'm fine and then I try to leave with a smile.
0:41:41 > 0:41:43I want him to see me leave with a smile.
0:41:43 > 0:41:46I make sure the last thing he saw of me was a smile.
0:41:51 > 0:41:54We had a great visit, yeah,
0:41:54 > 0:42:01we took pictures and he talked about when he was young,
0:42:01 > 0:42:03some of his youngest memories.
0:42:05 > 0:42:10- So his spirits were good? - Oh, always, always in good spirits.
0:42:13 > 0:42:17As crazy as it may sound to some, I firmly believe that five
0:42:17 > 0:42:20years ago God spoke a word to me
0:42:20 > 0:42:22and God told me you're not going to die there,
0:42:22 > 0:42:25you're not going to die there.
0:42:25 > 0:42:29I know, I know for some people they looked at me, how can he say that?
0:42:29 > 0:42:32I have no doubts, I've been serving God long enough,
0:42:32 > 0:42:35God does not lie, so...
0:42:40 > 0:42:42So tomorrow, your visit tomorrow is the last
0:42:42 > 0:42:44opportunity you'll have to talk to him?
0:42:44 > 0:42:46- Correct.- OK.
0:42:47 > 0:42:50But I don't feel it's my last opportunity, I mean,
0:42:50 > 0:42:53I honestly believe that I will see him next week.
0:43:10 > 0:43:11'I only have one friend
0:43:11 > 0:43:15'that actually stayed there with me from day one.'
0:43:17 > 0:43:20He's in good spirits,
0:43:20 > 0:43:23he's very positive about the whole thing
0:43:23 > 0:43:27and, I mean, it's good to see, but...
0:43:27 > 0:43:30I don't know, it's kinda scary at the same time.
0:43:30 > 0:43:34You could have a negative outlook or a positive outlook.
0:43:34 > 0:43:36My outlook is always positive.
0:43:42 > 0:43:46I didn't expect it to come this close,
0:43:46 > 0:43:51but I have a hopeful expectation I'll get a stay
0:43:51 > 0:43:52and Friday, I'll still be alive.
0:43:52 > 0:43:56And when that happens, I give all glory to God. Nobody else.
0:43:56 > 0:44:00Not a man, not a court, all glory to God, you know?
0:44:00 > 0:44:02I just... I don't want to see him...
0:44:02 > 0:44:04I don't want to see him die.
0:44:16 > 0:44:18Hi, Mr Ellis.
0:44:23 > 0:44:25The Board of Pardons and Paroles,
0:44:25 > 0:44:27that was the clemency, right?
0:44:29 > 0:44:30OK.
0:44:32 > 0:44:36My mum, she's having a hard time dealing with this.
0:44:36 > 0:44:43My mum does not share the faith that...that I have.
0:44:43 > 0:44:45I think she believes,
0:44:45 > 0:44:48but not on the same level that I do.
0:44:48 > 0:44:50So there's still that doubt in her mind.
0:44:50 > 0:44:54She's preparing for the worst and hoping for the best, you know?
0:44:54 > 0:44:58The Board of Pardons and Paroles,
0:44:58 > 0:45:02they just denied his clemency.
0:45:04 > 0:45:07So now it's up to the Supreme Court.
0:45:07 > 0:45:08The Governor can give a stay.
0:45:11 > 0:45:16He's only done it once in his 248 executions,
0:45:16 > 0:45:18but anything's possible.
0:45:21 > 0:45:22I will.
0:45:24 > 0:45:26Bye.
0:45:29 > 0:45:31I got to stay strong for Alie.
0:45:31 > 0:45:32Oh!
0:45:35 > 0:45:37This is so difficult.
0:45:51 > 0:45:54'To determine death, jurors must decide if Haynes is a future
0:45:54 > 0:45:59'threat to society and that nothing mitigates against the death penalty.'
0:46:01 > 0:46:04He looked like a little kid back then, you know.
0:46:04 > 0:46:06He was 19 years old,
0:46:06 > 0:46:10but he looked to be about maybe 16 or 17, the way he looked.
0:46:10 > 0:46:13It's amazing, here in Texas, a lot of things
0:46:13 > 0:46:16go on in courtrooms that probably wouldn't go on in other places.
0:46:16 > 0:46:21The judge that was presiding over the jury selection was,
0:46:21 > 0:46:25you know, cleaning his gun in court, you know?
0:46:26 > 0:46:29That kinda gave me a premonition
0:46:29 > 0:46:33as to how things would wind up
0:46:33 > 0:46:37in the courtrooms here in Harris County.
0:46:37 > 0:46:40And I think the defence team did not do their job.
0:46:42 > 0:46:44'On the day of his sentencing he told the judge
0:46:44 > 0:46:48'he still had his faith in God and when he left the courtroom
0:46:48 > 0:46:52'he threw up his hand in the air and gave a wave to his family.'
0:47:04 > 0:47:08People, when they're born into this world,
0:47:08 > 0:47:11they're not born to be killers,
0:47:11 > 0:47:13I don't think.
0:47:15 > 0:47:20So at the time when I would think about Anthony as a little boy,
0:47:20 > 0:47:24I thought, I don't think his family even thought that he
0:47:24 > 0:47:28would grow up to do something like that, you know?
0:47:28 > 0:47:31He was probably a good little boy,
0:47:31 > 0:47:33you know, a sweet baby.
0:47:36 > 0:47:40Am I relieved with the punishment?
0:47:41 > 0:47:44I don't know if that's a good word to say.
0:47:45 > 0:47:48Our feelings are very torn when it comes to death row
0:47:48 > 0:47:51because, on one hand, you think that you're going feel this,
0:47:51 > 0:47:54like, huge sense of relief and part of you does
0:47:54 > 0:47:59because you know you will never have to encounter him again.
0:47:59 > 0:48:02But then, of course, on the other hand, we're human beings.
0:48:02 > 0:48:05Like, you do feel guilt and you feel...
0:48:05 > 0:48:07I mean we probably feel more remorse for him
0:48:07 > 0:48:09than he does for us, I don't know.
0:48:09 > 0:48:12But...it's a lot of mixed emotions.
0:48:12 > 0:48:14You don't know what to feel
0:48:14 > 0:48:18and you're kind of just angry that you have to feel any of them.
0:48:35 > 0:48:37I don't think I'm going to die tomorrow.
0:48:37 > 0:48:39I don't believe that at all.
0:48:42 > 0:48:44I'm looking forward to the fried chicken
0:48:44 > 0:48:46and the telephone privileges,
0:48:46 > 0:48:48so that's what I'm looking at right now, you know?
0:48:48 > 0:48:50I'm not worried at all.
0:48:58 > 0:49:00I'm praying for you.
0:49:01 > 0:49:04I made arrangements today.
0:49:04 > 0:49:09I pray to God it doesn't come to that. Yeah.
0:49:09 > 0:49:13And I'm just... My aunt and Donald will handle the obituary,
0:49:13 > 0:49:15or whatever anybody wants to help.
0:49:15 > 0:49:18I can't do that, I can't deal with that.
0:49:18 > 0:49:21I mean I want it to just... just hurry up and
0:49:21 > 0:49:24get it over with if it did came to that on Saturday,
0:49:24 > 0:49:27or Monday but, you know...
0:49:27 > 0:49:30Donald wants to allow for people to come
0:49:30 > 0:49:35in town and I'm like, "Where have these people been for 13 years?"
0:49:35 > 0:49:37I mean, why are we waiting for people to come in town?
0:49:37 > 0:49:39But I know that's selfish.
0:49:40 > 0:49:44'Tomorrow, I've been designated as...'
0:49:45 > 0:49:50..one of the witnesses, should the execution occur.
0:49:51 > 0:49:56And it was very hard for me at first to make that decision.
0:49:56 > 0:49:58But, you know,
0:49:58 > 0:50:01I'm Anthony's father
0:50:01 > 0:50:06and I love Anthony and we have a spiritual connection
0:50:06 > 0:50:10and I'm going to be there for Anthony till the end.
0:50:10 > 0:50:12Till the end, I'll be there.
0:50:17 > 0:50:21If you were at worship on Sunday, you know that sister Pauline read
0:50:21 > 0:50:27a letter on behalf of brother Anthony Haynes.
0:50:27 > 0:50:29We are praying for his mother,
0:50:29 > 0:50:32sister Patricia Davis who is here on tonight, amen?
0:50:32 > 0:50:34CONGREGATION: Amen.
0:50:34 > 0:50:36And, what I want to do, I want us to stand
0:50:36 > 0:50:41- and pray as a church family, for sister Davis, amen?- Amen.
0:50:41 > 0:50:44Amen. Because we just learnt
0:50:44 > 0:50:48that God is able to do anything but fail, amen?
0:50:48 > 0:50:51Then God, we come with a special prayer request.
0:50:51 > 0:50:56We've been fasting and praying, believing for brother Haynes.
0:50:56 > 0:50:59God, we pray now for sister Davis, God,
0:50:59 > 0:51:01and the remainder of their family.
0:51:01 > 0:51:05His father and those others who are affiliated.
0:51:05 > 0:51:08God, we know that nobody can do anything like you.
0:51:08 > 0:51:11So God, we pray now, by your divine will,
0:51:11 > 0:51:15if it's your will, that you deliver like only you can.
0:51:15 > 0:51:18And God, we know that you're able, if you only would, God.
0:51:18 > 0:51:21God, we pray for your mercy, like only you can.
0:51:21 > 0:51:24We know that you are able, Lord God.
0:51:24 > 0:51:26And we can get a miracle, O God.
0:51:26 > 0:51:29God, we pray now that you touch the hand of every judge,
0:51:29 > 0:51:33or anybody else who has anything to do with the case because, God,
0:51:33 > 0:51:37we know that you are a lawyer who's never lost a case.
0:51:37 > 0:51:40And so, God, we're coming in faith, nothing wavering,
0:51:40 > 0:51:45knowing that you are able to work miracles!
0:51:45 > 0:51:47Yeah.
0:51:47 > 0:51:49God, we need your peace.
0:51:49 > 0:51:52We need your peace.
0:51:52 > 0:51:54We need your peace, God.
0:51:54 > 0:51:56We need your peace.
0:52:07 > 0:52:08I thank you for coming to see me.
0:52:08 > 0:52:11All right, God bless you.
0:52:23 > 0:52:27'Good morning, the state of Texas is today preparing to carry out
0:52:27 > 0:52:29'the execution of Anthony Haynes.
0:52:29 > 0:52:32'Haynes, due to die by lethal injection, was convicted
0:52:32 > 0:52:36'of shooting dead an off-duty police officer in Houston in 1998.
0:52:36 > 0:52:39'Haynes, 19 at the time of the shooting,
0:52:39 > 0:52:42'claims he did not know his victim...'
0:52:50 > 0:52:52- Can you give me a moment?- Sure.
0:52:53 > 0:52:55OK.
0:52:58 > 0:53:01- What's your first name?- Jason. - Jason, J-A-S-O-N?
0:53:01 > 0:53:02- Uh-huh. - What's your last name, Jason?
0:53:02 > 0:53:04Clark, C-L-A-R-K.
0:53:04 > 0:53:07Anthony Haynes did make a statement, he said,
0:53:07 > 0:53:10"God told me that I will not die on death row.
0:53:13 > 0:53:16"He told me to believe in the impossible.
0:53:16 > 0:53:19"He put something in my path to keep me focused.
0:53:19 > 0:53:22"God proved himself to be faithful,
0:53:22 > 0:53:26"he delivered me from the death chamber. To God be the glory."
0:53:33 > 0:53:36Yeah, around 4pm today, we received notice from
0:53:36 > 0:53:39the US Supreme Court that Anthony Haynes received
0:53:39 > 0:53:41a stay of execution.
0:53:42 > 0:53:46So, tell me, when you guys got the news, what sort of happened?
0:53:46 > 0:53:49It was around 3.45pm that we received the news
0:53:49 > 0:53:53that the US Supreme Court had stayed the execution of Anthony Haynes.
0:53:53 > 0:53:57We confirmed that stay of execution and the offender was notified.
0:53:57 > 0:54:01And a little after 4pm, he was put into a transport van
0:54:01 > 0:54:03and brought back to the Polunsky Unit.
0:54:07 > 0:54:10The appeal that was filed at the last minute
0:54:10 > 0:54:14related to ineffective counsel and so the US Supreme Court
0:54:14 > 0:54:18stopped the execution, so they could review that a little bit closer.
0:54:18 > 0:54:20You've been with the Kincaid family all afternoon,
0:54:20 > 0:54:22tell me how they're doing.
0:54:22 > 0:54:24Well, they're frustrated, they're disappointed,
0:54:24 > 0:54:27but supportive of the system and respectful of the system.
0:54:27 > 0:54:30We understand that everyone has rights in this country.
0:54:30 > 0:54:33The United States Supreme Court has decided that they wanted a stay
0:54:33 > 0:54:36at this point to look at something else and we respect that process.
0:54:36 > 0:54:38Is there anything else you want to add?
0:54:38 > 0:54:40Just that we hope that people keep
0:54:40 > 0:54:42the Kincaid family in their prayers.
0:54:42 > 0:54:45This is a roller coaster for them and
0:54:45 > 0:54:48we know that they want closure, if you can have possible closure
0:54:48 > 0:54:50when you've lost your husband, or your father, or your friend.
0:55:04 > 0:55:08You know, the whole time I've been locked up, you know,
0:55:08 > 0:55:11I've been treated like a... like an animal many times,
0:55:11 > 0:55:14I mean, they don't treat you like a man at all.
0:55:14 > 0:55:18And it's kind of ironic that the day that they're going to kill you
0:55:18 > 0:55:20all the attitudes change.
0:55:21 > 0:55:23I get over there, they take my handcuffs off,
0:55:23 > 0:55:25I'm walking round free,
0:55:25 > 0:55:27they look at me and say, "Haynes,
0:55:27 > 0:55:29"if you don't cause trouble, we don't cause trouble."
0:55:29 > 0:55:34There was a big old plate with cookies, pies, a cup cake,
0:55:34 > 0:55:39pastry, this is all for you and sweet tea, hot coffee, ice water,
0:55:39 > 0:55:43some other kind of drink, you know - "This is all for you, Haynes."
0:55:43 > 0:55:48But after I got the stay, all the attitudes changed.
0:55:48 > 0:55:50When I first got there the warden, he comes in,
0:55:50 > 0:55:52he wants to shake your hand, talk to you,
0:55:52 > 0:55:57but when I got my stay, I tried to shake one of the officers' hands -
0:55:57 > 0:55:59"No, we're going to be professional now."
0:55:59 > 0:56:02So I didn't get to eat, I didn't get to eat my meal,
0:56:02 > 0:56:04I got back on the van and came back.
0:56:04 > 0:56:08But it was like a weight just lifted off my shoulder,
0:56:08 > 0:56:10I was just filled with joy, I was just happy.
0:56:13 > 0:56:16We thought it would be done and over with that day
0:56:16 > 0:56:18and knowing that it wasn't
0:56:18 > 0:56:20and knowing that this would all come back up
0:56:20 > 0:56:22in two months or in two years
0:56:22 > 0:56:27and not knowing when was really frustrating.
0:56:28 > 0:56:33I was kind of mad that it didn't happen, just because...
0:56:36 > 0:56:37..I just wanted it over with,
0:56:37 > 0:56:40I didn't want to have to deal with it all again in the future.
0:56:48 > 0:56:52I understand that, you know, Kent Kincaid was a lot more
0:56:52 > 0:56:56than the person I encountered on that street that night, you know?
0:56:56 > 0:56:58I know...
0:56:58 > 0:57:00I know I took someone's father,
0:57:00 > 0:57:02someone's husband.
0:57:02 > 0:57:08You know, when I think about my relationship with my father
0:57:08 > 0:57:10it's very strong,
0:57:10 > 0:57:13but that's something that I took away from his daughters, you know?
0:57:13 > 0:57:16Two little innocent girls, right?
0:57:25 > 0:57:27I think about Nancy
0:57:27 > 0:57:28and she watched her husband get shot
0:57:28 > 0:57:33and that has to be very, very, very traumatic, right, you know?
0:57:33 > 0:57:35But I cannot take back what I did.
0:57:36 > 0:57:38I'm sorry, you know?
0:57:38 > 0:57:43I'm not sorry just cos I'm locked up -
0:57:43 > 0:57:45I genuinely regret what happened, you know?
0:57:45 > 0:57:47I wish it never had happened.
0:57:57 > 0:57:59I'm sorry.