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0:00:02 > 0:00:07This programme contains some strong language

0:00:07 > 0:00:11# Shh, it's oh so quiet

0:00:11 > 0:00:13# Shh, shh #

0:00:13 > 0:00:15But not for long.

0:00:16 > 0:00:19Something menacing and sharp-toothed is on the way.

0:00:20 > 0:00:22Fucking hell.

0:00:22 > 0:00:23It's an industrial chop saw.

0:00:26 > 0:00:29And they're unaware of the trouble that comes with it.

0:00:29 > 0:00:30# Oh so peaceful until #

0:00:30 > 0:00:31What do you need the taser for?

0:00:33 > 0:00:34Why does he need his taser?

0:00:34 > 0:00:36# You blow a fuse #

0:00:36 > 0:00:39There's three there, I'm cuffed behind my back,

0:00:39 > 0:00:42There's one there, I don't know how many behind me.

0:00:42 > 0:00:44Why does he need his taser in his hand?

0:00:45 > 0:00:48Michael Lesley, arrested for nothing!

0:00:48 > 0:00:51Welcome to The Lock Up.

0:00:53 > 0:00:55On the banks of the Humber, Hull is

0:00:55 > 0:00:58one of the commercial and retail capitals of northern England.

0:00:58 > 0:01:01But where there's money there's crime,

0:01:01 > 0:01:03and more than three-quarters of businesses

0:01:03 > 0:01:08are affected every year, costing each of them £30,000.

0:01:09 > 0:01:12Whatever the trouble it's Sergeant Peter Swann,

0:01:12 > 0:01:15and his team who pick up the pieces at Priory Road Custody Suite...

0:01:15 > 0:01:16SCREAMING

0:01:16 > 0:01:18Where we've been filming for a year.

0:01:18 > 0:01:19BLEEPING

0:01:19 > 0:01:23That's picking up that microphone I'm wearing.

0:01:23 > 0:01:25If you have an argument with anything that happens,

0:01:25 > 0:01:27That's with me, not anybody else.

0:01:27 > 0:01:29SCREAMING

0:01:29 > 0:01:32Fucking hell!

0:01:33 > 0:01:37Look at me I'm 5ft 10 and you can't put me down?

0:01:37 > 0:01:41He's got a taser? Oh, fuck me.

0:01:42 > 0:01:44The first customer of the night, accused of nicking

0:01:44 > 0:01:48that industrial saw from a business has got real attitude.

0:01:50 > 0:01:52Why does he need the taser?

0:01:52 > 0:01:56Because you've been violent and he's going to use it on you if you are in here.

0:01:56 > 0:01:57Hang on. Behave.

0:01:57 > 0:02:03When arrested, Michael Cox was so angry the police threatened to taser him with 50,000 volts.

0:02:03 > 0:02:04Listen to ya.

0:02:04 > 0:02:08Yes, I am listening to me and in a minute you will, but if you don't,

0:02:08 > 0:02:10I don't care, but here's what's happening.

0:02:10 > 0:02:12I'm authorising your detention here for burglary.

0:02:12 > 0:02:14ALL TALK AT ONCE

0:02:14 > 0:02:17I talk, you listen, I don't listen to you.

0:02:17 > 0:02:19What type of police state is this?

0:02:19 > 0:02:21Are we in Columbia?

0:02:21 > 0:02:26We'll go through those questions, you will then speak to a nurse...

0:02:26 > 0:02:27Question away.

0:02:27 > 0:02:29- But you don't make demands of us. - Question away.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31- We assess your needs. - Question away.

0:02:31 > 0:02:34- You're not important, you're nowt... - Do you understand?

0:02:34 > 0:02:35Question away and I'll answer.

0:02:35 > 0:02:37Good stuff! Over to you.

0:02:37 > 0:02:41You can only take so much of people shouting and cursing at you and your staff.

0:02:41 > 0:02:45I'm not having people coming in here and laying the law down like that.

0:02:45 > 0:02:48But Mr Cox has more questions than answers.

0:02:48 > 0:02:51Is there any chance you can answer, why is that (BLEEP)

0:02:51 > 0:02:53still stood behind me with a fucking taser?

0:02:53 > 0:02:54Is there a need?

0:02:54 > 0:02:55Come on, mate...

0:02:55 > 0:02:57- There's no need is there? - Turn this way. Come on.

0:02:57 > 0:02:58Two, four...

0:02:58 > 0:03:00He'll stand there until I tell him to go,

0:03:00 > 0:03:03and I haven't yet, that's why he's stood there.

0:03:03 > 0:03:04You're a (BLEEP) and all.

0:03:04 > 0:03:05Yeah, we all are.

0:03:05 > 0:03:08Just take your shoes off before you go in.

0:03:08 > 0:03:12I think he's claiming he'd found stolen property and wanted to return it to it's owners,

0:03:12 > 0:03:13via the police.

0:03:13 > 0:03:20Unfortunately our staff found him and assumed he had stolen it.

0:03:20 > 0:03:22Erm... I'm assuming that as well.

0:03:22 > 0:03:26I thnk he's bang to rights and is upset at himself for being so stupid.

0:03:28 > 0:03:34It's not something you'd be nipping and borrowing your neighbour, it's an industrial saw.

0:03:34 > 0:03:39It's not something the general public would have on them at two o'clock in the morning.

0:03:39 > 0:03:43Some (BLEEP) a fucking taser, innit?

0:03:47 > 0:03:49I guess he doesn't want tea?

0:03:49 > 0:03:51LAUGHTER

0:03:51 > 0:03:53It's an attempted theft that's brought the next man in,

0:03:53 > 0:03:57but he too thinks he's done nothing wrong.

0:03:57 > 0:03:59All right then, mate.

0:03:59 > 0:04:01You didn't expect to be here tonight?

0:04:01 > 0:04:02No.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04OK, time of the arrest please?

0:04:04 > 0:04:0723:40.

0:04:10 > 0:04:12Steven Coopland surprised a thief trying to

0:04:12 > 0:04:15break into one of his company vans with a crowbar.

0:04:15 > 0:04:17The circumstances please?

0:04:17 > 0:04:21The gentleman disturbed a male breaking into his motor vehicle.

0:04:23 > 0:04:29Subsequently detained him and during that detention had some sort of fight with him,

0:04:29 > 0:04:31and allegedly assaulted him.

0:04:31 > 0:04:33And the offence?

0:04:33 > 0:04:35Section 18, wounding assault.

0:04:42 > 0:04:43What do you mean?

0:04:43 > 0:04:45Oh no! No! I'm a bit old for that now.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52Would you like anyone informing that you're here?

0:04:52 > 0:04:55Not as yet, see how long I'm going to be.

0:04:56 > 0:04:59I'll need to speak to my wife if I'm still here in the morning,

0:04:59 > 0:05:01Which I don't want to be.

0:05:03 > 0:05:06He may be smiling now but he's unaware of the trouble he's in.

0:05:06 > 0:05:10His actions have put the other man in hospital.

0:05:12 > 0:05:14He has got quite serious injuries.

0:05:15 > 0:05:18Which obviously he's got to be assessed by a doctor.

0:05:18 > 0:05:23There was a substantial amount of blood on the pavement.

0:05:23 > 0:05:26It's a serious assault.

0:05:26 > 0:05:31The indication from the paramedics is that he may have some fractures,

0:05:31 > 0:05:37and the guy was sat down with blood coming from an open wound to his head.

0:05:37 > 0:05:40- Have you tried to self-harm before?- Pardon?

0:05:40 > 0:05:41- Have you tried to self-harm?- No.

0:05:41 > 0:05:44Any mental health problems or depression?

0:05:44 > 0:05:46Only that I pay a lot of tax.

0:05:46 > 0:05:47That's the one.

0:05:48 > 0:05:50Yeah, that one does.

0:05:50 > 0:05:54Mr Coopland insists he was simply defending his property.

0:05:54 > 0:05:56Somebody was breaking in the van.

0:05:58 > 0:06:02It'd been broken into last night and the night before and he came back to do it again.

0:06:04 > 0:06:07He hit us a couple of times and I hit him back.

0:06:09 > 0:06:11But the question is, did he go too far?

0:06:13 > 0:06:16Caught somebody breaking into his van/car.

0:06:18 > 0:06:22Trying to protect his livlihood because he needs that to do his business.

0:06:22 > 0:06:25and he's overreacted, because this guy is in hospital.

0:06:25 > 0:06:28The point is, this guy's had a crowbar and he's gone to hit him,

0:06:28 > 0:06:29and he's defended himself.

0:06:29 > 0:06:33The pertinent point is you've said it, he's overreacted.

0:06:33 > 0:06:35We don't know at this time, though.

0:06:35 > 0:06:39No, we don't, which is why we're investigating him for GBH.

0:06:41 > 0:06:42I heard him, as I'd gone out.

0:06:44 > 0:06:48I confronted him and he swung round with this bar.

0:06:48 > 0:06:52He hit me on the hand but I took it off him and then brained him with it.

0:06:54 > 0:06:59This man might be a citizen's hero, he may be a nasty piece of work people fear.

0:06:59 > 0:07:02We have no means of knowing one way or the other,

0:07:02 > 0:07:08so he's in here for an offense, it'll be investigated and we might charge him, we might not.

0:07:08 > 0:07:14If charged with GBH, Mr Coopland could be sent down for a long time.

0:07:22 > 0:07:24Would you like something to eat?

0:07:24 > 0:07:29I've got lasagne, shepherd's pie or a vegetable chicken curry.

0:07:29 > 0:07:30No problem.

0:07:31 > 0:07:33It's dinner time at Priory Road.

0:07:33 > 0:07:34Sugar's in.

0:07:38 > 0:07:41Which gives Sergeant Swann a chance to wax lyrical on his pet subject.

0:07:42 > 0:07:46I have a retired racing greyhound and they're beautiful pets.

0:07:46 > 0:07:50And they're also badly abused sometimes, looking for good homes.

0:07:50 > 0:07:55So it's my attempt to bring to people's attention that they're big beasts

0:07:55 > 0:07:59that don't need a lot of exercise, they sleep most of the day.

0:07:59 > 0:08:03With a greyhound you get what you expect, a fast, gentle beast.

0:08:05 > 0:08:10You've just been on about ten minutes about greyhounds, haven't you?

0:08:10 > 0:08:12Yeah, but ten minutes of good value.

0:08:12 > 0:08:13Yeah, yeah.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22You're going to see a bright light.

0:08:24 > 0:08:26The man accused of stealing the industrial saw is still

0:08:26 > 0:08:30complaining about the abrupt end to his bike ride.

0:08:31 > 0:08:35Got six coppers there, why do you need on with a taser?

0:08:36 > 0:08:38Totally over the top.

0:08:38 > 0:08:40But he has calmed down enough to be processed.

0:08:42 > 0:08:45- Any languages?- No.- Any trades behind you?

0:08:47 > 0:08:49I'll check my underpants.

0:08:51 > 0:08:56CID are weighing up the evidence and there's more than they bargained for.

0:08:57 > 0:08:58That is huge.

0:08:58 > 0:09:02I don't know what I was expecting, but not that!

0:09:02 > 0:09:03He's found that, he alleges.

0:09:04 > 0:09:08And you're on a bike, you're riding on a bike.

0:09:08 > 0:09:11He was seen riding a bike carrying this and said he was taking it to his family,

0:09:11 > 0:09:13and then hand it in to the police station.

0:09:13 > 0:09:17However he was riding in the opposite way from the police station,

0:09:17 > 0:09:19so obviously we don't believe him.

0:09:19 > 0:09:21Well, they wouldn't, would they?

0:09:21 > 0:09:25But Michael Cox claims he was just being a good samaritan.

0:09:25 > 0:09:30I was just outside my mate's double glazing factory, so I thought I'd look after it till the morning.

0:09:32 > 0:09:37Asked my friend if it was 'owt to do with him, if not then obviously inform the police.

0:09:38 > 0:09:41Unfortunately, I was lifted on the way home with it.

0:09:41 > 0:09:43INAUDIBLE

0:09:43 > 0:09:45I've done 'nowt so I've got nothing to worry about.

0:09:45 > 0:09:49Waste of equipment, waste of resourses and a waste of my time.

0:09:49 > 0:09:52But, there you go.

0:09:52 > 0:09:54I'll be released without charge.

0:09:54 > 0:09:58But following a search of his house they have found this...

0:09:58 > 0:10:00And this...

0:10:00 > 0:10:01And this...

0:10:02 > 0:10:05so DC Bradley is convinced it's an open and shut case.

0:10:07 > 0:10:12That'll be straight out of some premises, that.

0:10:12 > 0:10:13There's CCTV footage from the scene.

0:10:13 > 0:10:17Can see two males here, acting as lookout outside the compound.

0:10:17 > 0:10:21And the man we've got in custody is wearing similar clothing,

0:10:21 > 0:10:25wearing white trousers, darker jacket on and some kind of baseball cap.

0:10:27 > 0:10:30And that's the clothing our man's wearing.

0:10:30 > 0:10:34And if that isn't enough there may also be forensic evidence.

0:10:35 > 0:10:39We've found out there's footwear marks that have been left at the scene.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42See if it's the same pair of trainers which have made that mark.

0:10:43 > 0:10:47So things aren't looking too good for Mr Cox.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49But he is still claiming the police have got it wrong.

0:10:49 > 0:10:51And when it comes to the law,

0:10:51 > 0:10:55he seems to know what he is talking about.

0:10:55 > 0:10:58I have no intention of depriving anybody.

0:10:58 > 0:11:00You need intention to permanently to deprive.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02And I had no intention of such a thing.

0:11:02 > 0:11:06So this might not be such an open and shut case after all.

0:11:14 > 0:11:18The next customer through the door isn't so coherent.

0:11:18 > 0:11:19He's talking but making no sense.

0:11:26 > 0:11:27TALKS INCOHERENTLY

0:11:27 > 0:11:30Settle down, settle down.

0:11:30 > 0:11:33Nicholas Robinson has been drinking all day.

0:11:34 > 0:11:36All coppers are bastards.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41Bastards, sit us down.

0:11:43 > 0:11:45Aston Villa, Aston Villa for life.

0:11:45 > 0:11:48I'll knock you out as well, you think your hard 'cos I'm cuffed? Fuck you.

0:11:50 > 0:11:55One in three detainees are under the influence of booze or drugs.

0:11:55 > 0:11:57Get off my fucking wrist...

0:11:57 > 0:11:58Get him to a cell.

0:11:59 > 0:12:04This one's so aggressive he can't be dealt with until he's sobered up.

0:12:04 > 0:12:07ALL TALK AT ONCE

0:12:07 > 0:12:10It's that initial getting him in the cell, making sure he's safe,

0:12:10 > 0:12:12for their benefit, really.

0:12:12 > 0:12:17It looks a bit oppressive but it's not, it's keeping so they're safe and don't injure themselves.

0:12:17 > 0:12:21Drink makes people behave like violent oafs on occasions.

0:12:24 > 0:12:26SHOUTING

0:12:26 > 0:12:28That's why we leave them as long as we can,

0:12:28 > 0:12:32because they're different people when they're sober.

0:12:35 > 0:12:39At one point he lashed out and slapped me across the face.

0:12:39 > 0:12:42He's then started throwing punches round and about in the pub.

0:12:42 > 0:12:44You all right?

0:12:44 > 0:12:44Good lad.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49He's got a major issue with alcohol, that's the thing.

0:12:49 > 0:12:52He's been drinking all day, hasn't he?

0:12:52 > 0:12:53Obviously not drunk enough!

0:12:59 > 0:13:03It looks like booze is also the cause of this young lad's problems.

0:13:04 > 0:13:08He is 17 and so out of it, he doesn't know where he is.

0:13:08 > 0:13:09- Offence please? - Criminal damage.

0:13:09 > 0:13:11His parents called the police

0:13:11 > 0:13:15after he chucked a wheelbarrow into a neighbour's garden.

0:13:15 > 0:13:17He is one of a quarter of a million youngsters

0:13:17 > 0:13:22who find themselves in the UK's lock-ups every year.

0:13:22 > 0:13:24Drink that and calm down.

0:13:24 > 0:13:29By the time we got there, he'd gone out of the back door. He was jumping over fences.

0:13:29 > 0:13:32We followed him over the fences and then we detained him.

0:13:32 > 0:13:35He was calm and then he started to get a bit agitated.

0:13:35 > 0:13:38He started to try and run away. He was kicking off and lashing out.

0:13:38 > 0:13:44We put straps on his upper body his knees and his ankles. to calm him down.

0:13:44 > 0:13:49It is his first time in custody. He is covered in scratches from the chase but so spaced out,

0:13:49 > 0:13:52he can barely sign his name.

0:13:59 > 0:14:01Sign on there, just your name.

0:14:01 > 0:14:04Sit yourself down, go on.

0:14:04 > 0:14:08So, just how drunk is he?

0:14:09 > 0:14:13A nice deep breath and blow. Come on, keep going. Keep going.

0:14:13 > 0:14:21All done. That's all we need. You've got a breath in there.

0:14:21 > 0:14:24And through your nose.

0:14:24 > 0:14:26The breathalyser reveals it's not drink that's to blame.

0:14:26 > 0:14:30- Right, what else have you taken? - Why?

0:14:30 > 0:14:35- Why, because it is it important that I know.- Stella.

0:14:35 > 0:14:38You have had more than Stella.

0:14:38 > 0:14:43They are worried he may be hiding something.

0:14:43 > 0:14:46He might not have slept for a week.

0:14:46 > 0:14:50He is now not under the influence of any drugs any more and just completely knackered.

0:14:50 > 0:14:56Not knowing the cause means the risks increase.

0:14:56 > 0:14:59So, he is placed on regular watch.

0:15:00 > 0:15:04Arrested for attacking a man trying to break into his van,

0:15:04 > 0:15:08Stephen Coupland has been in the cells overnight.

0:15:08 > 0:15:10He is now a little frustrated.

0:15:10 > 0:15:15They told me I would be out this morning but it hasn't materialised.

0:15:15 > 0:15:19They must be seeking more evidence or whatever.

0:15:23 > 0:15:29Dead right. The investigation is gathering pace.

0:15:29 > 0:15:34- Scenes of crime, Mike Ashford. - Hull's answer to CSI is on the case.

0:15:34 > 0:15:38I have found what looks like blood on the wall.

0:15:40 > 0:15:44There could be traces of blood still in the crack where it has gone down

0:15:44 > 0:15:47but I have taken some swabs to gather some evidence.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50It maybe lost it maybe not.

0:15:50 > 0:15:56I have found two bits of plastic on the floor that could be off a piece of clothing. A buckle, I'm not sure.

0:15:56 > 0:16:00There is also a cigarette near the gates that will have to do DNA as well.

0:16:00 > 0:16:04The van is soaking wet so I have arranged for it to be recovered.

0:16:04 > 0:16:07If there are fingerprints on the lock where he's tried to get in,

0:16:07 > 0:16:11it will have to be dried out for a fingerprint exam.

0:16:11 > 0:16:16It has got quite bad damage to both front door handles.

0:16:16 > 0:16:21Aluminium chrome around the sliding door has been bent as well.

0:16:23 > 0:16:25Okey-doke.

0:16:28 > 0:16:33An officer said he would see to me within a couple of hours.

0:16:33 > 0:16:39I have got until the morning to get to the job and they won't understand what has happened.

0:16:39 > 0:16:44Coupland's interview will be crucial.

0:16:44 > 0:16:48But before it can happen, his solicitor needs to be fully briefed.

0:16:50 > 0:16:54DC Kirsta Wood is the investigating officer.

0:16:54 > 0:16:57I've prepared a disclosure documents for you to read through.

0:16:57 > 0:17:01I will answer any questions I can for you.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04How is the alleged victim?

0:17:04 > 0:17:09We have just received a telephone call from the sergeant to say he will be going into surgery

0:17:09 > 0:17:13but we don't know what the nature of that injury is.

0:17:13 > 0:17:15We believe it is to his ear and his hand.

0:17:15 > 0:17:19But we are still talking about wounding allegation?

0:17:19 > 0:17:24Yes. The nature of the injury suggests more of a wounding than an ABH.

0:17:26 > 0:17:29Offences of wounding are much more serious.

0:17:29 > 0:17:35One of the worst is GBH for which Mr Coupland could get life.

0:17:35 > 0:17:39If I hadn't have hit him, he would have been me.

0:17:39 > 0:17:42He has instigated the matter swinging at me with a bar.

0:17:42 > 0:17:47I'll have to wait for the outcome.

0:17:49 > 0:17:53I hope to get off with a caution.

0:17:57 > 0:18:01It would appear from what he has already said to officers at the time of his arrest

0:18:01 > 0:18:08that he is claiming self-defence and reasonable defence of his property.

0:18:08 > 0:18:11It is a matter for us to get that account from him

0:18:11 > 0:18:14and put that against what a reasonable person in the street

0:18:14 > 0:18:16would believe is reasonable force.

0:18:16 > 0:18:20See you in a few minutes.

0:18:20 > 0:18:24Mr Coupland, I'm Robin Smith, I am a solicitor.

0:18:24 > 0:18:29- I'm afraid that is as far as I can go in your presence. - I understand. Thank you.

0:18:29 > 0:18:33It is a very serious offence. He could go to prison.

0:18:33 > 0:18:36It is very serious.

0:18:45 > 0:18:50The 17-year-old wheelbarrow thrower is starting to cause real concern.

0:18:50 > 0:18:56Wake up for me, mate. Wake up. Come on buddy, wake up for me.

0:18:56 > 0:19:01Sit up. Come on. Wake up.

0:19:03 > 0:19:07Wake up! Come on. What have you had?

0:19:07 > 0:19:10What have you had? What have you taken?

0:19:10 > 0:19:13With the lad so difficult to rouse, the nurse is called.

0:19:13 > 0:19:17Come on, stand up. Come on, stand up for me.

0:19:17 > 0:19:21Have you been on drugs or something? Come on, stand up.

0:19:21 > 0:19:26I have been in there and it is hard to rouse and wake up.

0:19:26 > 0:19:29Come on then buddy, this way. We don't know what he is taken.

0:19:29 > 0:19:32He hasn't had much alcohol in his system

0:19:32 > 0:19:34but he could have taken some type of drug.

0:19:34 > 0:19:37Will you sit down on this grey chair for me?

0:19:37 > 0:19:42The nurse wants to have a word with you.

0:19:42 > 0:19:46Right, what have you had?

0:19:46 > 0:19:52- I don't know.- Well, you must know. What is making you like this then?

0:19:52 > 0:19:57- You.- Pardon? Were you normally like this?

0:19:59 > 0:20:04- I don't know.- Look at me, look at my finger.

0:20:10 > 0:20:14His general condition gives cause for concern.

0:20:14 > 0:20:20His pupils are unequal, his clinical observations are quite down

0:20:20 > 0:20:23at what they should be for a 17-year-old.

0:20:23 > 0:20:27He denies any drug use so I am going to send him to hospital

0:20:27 > 0:20:31with a view for them to reassess for head injury

0:20:31 > 0:20:35and any intoxicated substance he hasn't admitted to.

0:20:36 > 0:20:41We are going to send him to hospital for observation

0:20:41 > 0:20:44so if his blood pressure continues to go down

0:20:44 > 0:20:48then there comes a point where your body can't function

0:20:48 > 0:20:52and it's a critical incident in terms of health.

0:20:52 > 0:20:55Hopefully, they will detain him, so if that happens,

0:20:55 > 0:20:59he is in the best place to be dealt with when it does.

0:21:06 > 0:21:11- So, you are 14? Were you born in Hull?- Yes.

0:21:11 > 0:21:14- Have you been arrested before?- Yes.

0:21:14 > 0:21:19At 14, this lad's even younger than the wheelbarrow thrower,

0:21:19 > 0:21:22so young he's brought his mum with him.

0:21:22 > 0:21:30But it's not drink or drugs just messing about that's got him banged up.

0:21:30 > 0:21:34- Time of arrest?- 09.20. - And the circumstances?

0:21:34 > 0:21:38Two separate incidents.

0:21:38 > 0:21:42One, he was seen riding a mini moto near his home address causing harassment and distress

0:21:42 > 0:21:49and then the second one is he was on top of a link up truss

0:21:49 > 0:21:56on Channel Road on the roof, again causing distress to the people working there.

0:21:58 > 0:22:03- That is the ground for my arrest, isn't it?- Yes.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05As well as riding his mini moto,

0:22:05 > 0:22:10the lad's been seen shouting and swearing from a rooftop.

0:22:10 > 0:22:14And with that sort of behaviour, like most juveniles with ASBOs,

0:22:14 > 0:22:15he's broken the rules.

0:22:15 > 0:22:20- Will I be out by 3:15? - I would think so.

0:22:20 > 0:22:25Just hang onto that because you need to wear it when you go into the cell, OK?

0:22:25 > 0:22:29This young hoodie could be trouble in the making.

0:22:31 > 0:22:35We have known Matt since the age of 10 or even before.

0:22:35 > 0:22:39We have just had a long conversation with him in the car.

0:22:39 > 0:22:43Hopefully, it does get through to some people

0:22:43 > 0:22:47but others go the other way and lead the life of crime.

0:22:47 > 0:22:51- How many times have you been in here now?- I don't know, I don't count.

0:23:07 > 0:23:11You would describe him in the area as a bloody nuisance really. But nothing more.

0:23:11 > 0:23:18He is causing residents in the area quite a lot of annoyance so we stepped in to try and stop that.

0:23:18 > 0:23:21By imposing an anti-social behaviour order

0:23:21 > 0:23:25which means he can be arrested every time he steps out of line.

0:23:25 > 0:23:29Do you want to stay for his photograph and all?

0:23:29 > 0:23:34He's so comfortable at Priory Road he's happy for his mum to go outside for a fag.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37He has been through the system before.

0:23:37 > 0:23:42He was a cheeky chappie, it is just a case of he knows the system

0:23:42 > 0:23:47- and he knows how it works. Here we go.- Don't look at me.

0:23:47 > 0:23:53He is just doing kids stuff really, which is still breaking the law

0:23:53 > 0:23:59but he isn't what I call a bad, bad lad. Come on then, lad.

0:23:59 > 0:24:02And that can be an issue with ASBOs, once you've got one,

0:24:02 > 0:24:07you can be pulled in for relatively minor things,

0:24:07 > 0:24:09all it takes is for someone to complain.

0:24:12 > 0:24:15I got arrested a couple of weeks ago

0:24:15 > 0:24:19because they thought I was smashing a sign outside the shop.

0:24:19 > 0:24:23But someone in the shop said it wasn't me, it was just the kids saying it was me.

0:24:23 > 0:24:25An ASBO can be a sledgehammer to crack a nut

0:24:25 > 0:24:29where you have children engaged in activities

0:24:29 > 0:24:31that children just engaging in.

0:24:31 > 0:24:35We can criminalise a whole section of society in the years ahead.

0:24:35 > 0:24:39The law is an effective tool if used properly

0:24:39 > 0:24:42but I think we often use them incorrectly.

0:24:42 > 0:24:48Most of my mates have said that they would rather be in prison than being on an ASBO.

0:24:48 > 0:24:53You get locked up nearly every day for things you haven't done,

0:24:53 > 0:25:00for really silly things like swearing at someone.

0:25:00 > 0:25:04For now, he'll have to await his fate.

0:25:08 > 0:25:11Steven Coupland has given his side of the story,

0:25:11 > 0:25:16and been told the man he assaulted needed surgery.

0:25:18 > 0:25:23He's finally beginning to understand the gravity of his situation.

0:25:27 > 0:25:33This is a hard-working family man of impeccable character.

0:25:33 > 0:25:36Although the previous three or two nights,

0:25:36 > 0:25:39attempts have been made to steal his van.

0:25:39 > 0:25:44This is the third consecutive night and on this occasion, he has called somebody red-handed.

0:25:44 > 0:25:48You can only feel sorry for him. He gave a good account of himself in interview

0:25:48 > 0:25:52and hopefully the police will come to the right decision.

0:25:52 > 0:25:57They believe I've gone too far and I went further than self defence.

0:25:57 > 0:26:02- Do you agree with that?- No, I don't.

0:26:02 > 0:26:06Because if I hadn't done that, he would've done the same to me.

0:26:07 > 0:26:09And he is Matthew Higgins.

0:26:09 > 0:26:12Matthew, I'm just going to book you in.

0:26:12 > 0:26:15Just released from hospital and in big trouble for taking a crowbar

0:26:15 > 0:26:17to Steven Coupland's van.

0:26:19 > 0:26:24I had my back to him...trying to obviously break into his van.

0:26:24 > 0:26:27And then he just hit me from behind.

0:26:27 > 0:26:29If I'd have seen him running, I'd have run.

0:26:29 > 0:26:32You know what I mean? I didn't even see him coming.

0:26:32 > 0:26:37When I went down on my knees, he carried on beating me over the head with a steel bar.

0:26:37 > 0:26:41I had my hand up to deflect it, and that's when he shattered my hand.

0:26:41 > 0:26:46Yeah? He's also severed my ear. My ear was hanging on by that much.

0:26:47 > 0:26:50But where does the truth lie?

0:26:50 > 0:26:55With 36 convictions, including wounding and possession of a prohibited weapon,

0:26:55 > 0:26:58Mr Higgins has a lot to lose.

0:26:58 > 0:27:04When the police turned up on the scene, they found me sat on the floor with my head between my hands,

0:27:04 > 0:27:05with my ear hanging off, yeah?

0:27:05 > 0:27:08Blood gushing everywhere onto my head.

0:27:08 > 0:27:10And my hand totally smashed in.

0:27:10 > 0:27:13And black and blue from legs upwards.

0:27:13 > 0:27:17Yeah? And this is the bloke that reckons that I attacked him.

0:27:17 > 0:27:21He hasn't got a mark on his body. He's got a scratch that big...

0:27:21 > 0:27:24you couldn't have even got from shaving.

0:27:33 > 0:27:36Were you a bit of a handful when you came in last night?

0:27:38 > 0:27:41It's amazing what a night in the cells can do.

0:27:41 > 0:27:45The stroppy drunkard, Nicholas Robinson, is a new man.

0:27:45 > 0:27:50I've been arrested three times this year and it's all alcohol related.

0:27:50 > 0:27:54Um...I was definitely drinking yesterday. I was with my girlfriend

0:27:54 > 0:27:56and that's pretty much all I can remember.

0:27:56 > 0:27:58I know I must have been hit

0:27:58 > 0:28:01cos all my ear's swollen and the side of my head.

0:28:01 > 0:28:05If it was fighting, it looks like I lost the fight, to be honest,

0:28:05 > 0:28:08the size of my ear and head, so I don't think I could've...

0:28:08 > 0:28:09done anything really bad.

0:28:09 > 0:28:12I get drunk, I don't get violent, I go to sleep.

0:28:12 > 0:28:15The drink withdraws people's inhibitions

0:28:15 > 0:28:21and, er, how you stop people doing that... If it wasn't the drink, it would probably be something else.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24If you just blow into that, I'll hold it and tell you when to stop.

0:28:24 > 0:28:26Keep going.

0:28:26 > 0:28:27Lovely.

0:28:27 > 0:28:29Lovely, thank you.

0:28:30 > 0:28:31It's still going up.

0:28:33 > 0:28:36- It says very drunk. - Does it?

0:28:36 > 0:28:38- It's 76...- That's why I don't drive.

0:28:38 > 0:28:4277, so you're still quite... under the influence, mate.

0:28:42 > 0:28:45So I won't be able to interview you just yet.

0:28:45 > 0:28:47What time did you get arrested, do you know?

0:28:47 > 0:28:52I didn't know I had been arrested. I got woke up by that lovely copper this morning

0:28:52 > 0:28:57- who wanted to give me a cuddle. - That's it. She said you must have had a hell of a drink last night.

0:28:57 > 0:29:01- Wicked.- Yeah.- You lose about 10 units an hour.

0:29:01 > 0:29:04- Are you alcohol dependent? - The legal limit to drive is 35.

0:29:04 > 0:29:09You're at 77 and you've been in for 12 hours?

0:29:09 > 0:29:14That means he was six times over the limit when he was arrested.

0:29:14 > 0:29:18- Are you alcohol dependent? Do you drink every day?- I do, yeah.

0:29:18 > 0:29:20You do. How long have you been alcohol dependent?

0:29:20 > 0:29:23Couple of years, two or three years.

0:29:23 > 0:29:25Have you ever tried to have any help for that?

0:29:25 > 0:29:30I'm registered with a company called Aquarius. I live in Birmingham, I'm only back cos it's my birthday.

0:29:30 > 0:29:34- But...- What do they do, try and wean you off it gradually?

0:29:34 > 0:29:37A little bit. They give the worst advice ever. They're like,

0:29:37 > 0:29:41"We wouldn't recommend you stop drinking yet because you'll have fits."

0:29:41 > 0:29:43That's the worst thing you can do.

0:29:43 > 0:29:47- I'll keep drinking then.- Yeah, but alcohol's different to drugs.

0:29:47 > 0:29:50Drugs, you can come off straightaway and you'll go through cold turkey.

0:29:50 > 0:29:53But with alcohol, if you do that, your organs can shut down.

0:29:53 > 0:29:56So they've got to wean you off it very gradual.

0:29:56 > 0:30:00So he's fallen off the wagon again and he is still only 22.

0:30:00 > 0:30:03But he's not your usual drunk.

0:30:03 > 0:30:05I'm a successful young man.

0:30:05 > 0:30:08I'm regional manager of my marketing company.

0:30:08 > 0:30:10Alcohol doesn't affect me one bit.

0:30:10 > 0:30:14In fact, sometimes when I'm drinking, I have my best ideas.

0:30:14 > 0:30:19The only thing dragging me back is the alcohol, but it's not really dragging me far.

0:30:19 > 0:30:21Is there anything else I need to be aware of?

0:30:21 > 0:30:24Yes, I'd like an en suite in my cell, if that's possible.

0:30:24 > 0:30:28You're unlucky, mate, cos the one with the Xbox has been spoken for.

0:30:28 > 0:30:32- Oh, is it? You're joking! - You were unlucky on that one.

0:30:32 > 0:30:34Give me a signature on the pad, please.

0:30:40 > 0:30:43Time for another cuppa,

0:30:43 > 0:30:47and Sergeant Swann is still barking on about his pet subject.

0:30:47 > 0:30:49So, "For Pete's sake, adopt a greyhound."

0:30:49 > 0:30:55And back home we've got another dish that says, "For Rocky's sake, policemen need good homes."

0:30:55 > 0:30:56CHUCKLES

0:30:56 > 0:31:00"Retired policemen need good homes." That's the one, isn't it?

0:31:00 > 0:31:02LAUGHS

0:31:04 > 0:31:07The 17-year-old wheelbarrow thrower

0:31:07 > 0:31:11who was near to collapse is back in the lock-up.

0:31:13 > 0:31:16How are you feeling? Are you moving a bit better?

0:31:16 > 0:31:19Have you spilt your beans, have you?

0:31:19 > 0:31:20HE MUTTERS

0:31:20 > 0:31:22Let's just move this along for you.

0:31:22 > 0:31:25I tell you what, let's clean you up a bit.

0:31:25 > 0:31:28The hospital discharged him because they decided

0:31:28 > 0:31:33he was under the influence of drugs and needed time to sleep it off.

0:31:34 > 0:31:40We're just a bit concerned for you cos generally after a while, drowsiness starts to, um...

0:31:40 > 0:31:43fall off, doesn't it? But it's not falling off at the minute.

0:31:43 > 0:31:46But the police aren't so sure.

0:31:46 > 0:31:50He may have banged his head running away from the arresting officers.

0:31:54 > 0:31:55Oh, dear.

0:31:58 > 0:32:00Are you OK down there, fella?

0:32:00 > 0:32:03There's a doctor with you, and I'm the police.

0:32:03 > 0:32:05Do you understand?

0:32:05 > 0:32:08'We have somebody who isn't getting any better

0:32:08 > 0:32:10and we don't know why.

0:32:10 > 0:32:12His consciousness is about zero.

0:32:12 > 0:32:17And he's incapable of sitting up and supporting himself

0:32:17 > 0:32:19and quite incapable of standing.

0:32:19 > 0:32:22And he also has slight bruising behind his ear.

0:32:22 > 0:32:27So there is a chance that it isn't actually any drug that's causing this.

0:32:27 > 0:32:30He may possibly have head injuries.

0:32:30 > 0:32:34So the doctor now is suggesting that they may do a CT scan

0:32:34 > 0:32:39because you wouldn't expect somebody to still be under the influence of drugs.

0:32:39 > 0:32:42Yes, the ambulance service, please.

0:32:42 > 0:32:46I am, I'm calling from Priory Police Station, the custody suite.

0:32:46 > 0:32:51With the possibility of a head injury, they're taking no risks.

0:32:51 > 0:32:56Two hours after being discharged, he's going back to hospital.

0:32:56 > 0:33:01We're not doctors, so this just isn't the right place

0:33:01 > 0:33:05to have anybody where you're not certain what the symptoms are.

0:33:05 > 0:33:09But this isn't a get-out-of-jail-free card,

0:33:09 > 0:33:12he'll still have to answer for criminal damage,

0:33:12 > 0:33:14but only once he's recovered.

0:33:22 > 0:33:28The Crown Prosecution Service has decided Mr Coupland does have a case to answer for using excessive force.

0:33:28 > 0:33:33The charges, Section 18, grievous bodily harm with intent,

0:33:33 > 0:33:37unlawfully and viciously cause grievous bodily harm to Matthew Simeon Higgins

0:33:37 > 0:33:40with intent to do him grievous bodily harm,

0:33:40 > 0:33:44contrary to Section 18 of the Offences Against The Person Act, 1861.

0:33:44 > 0:33:46Do you have any reply to that charge?

0:33:46 > 0:33:48Not guilty.

0:33:50 > 0:33:52But I didn't think I would be charged, actually.

0:33:52 > 0:33:55I didn't, and you didn't really, did you?

0:33:55 > 0:33:58All I can say to you is that it's entirely up to the CPS.

0:33:58 > 0:34:01They're presented with the evidence and make a decision based on that.

0:34:01 > 0:34:03It could have gone either way, really.

0:34:03 > 0:34:06I think it came as a bit of a shock to him.

0:34:06 > 0:34:11I'm sure he was expecting a bit of a slap on the wrist, a telling-off, if that.

0:34:11 > 0:34:13GBH with intent, um...

0:34:13 > 0:34:17one down from murder, really. The only element missing is that he didn't kill somebody.

0:34:17 > 0:34:22I think it's a natural reaction. You see somebody breaking into your property and your belongings,

0:34:22 > 0:34:24you're going to confront that person.

0:34:24 > 0:34:28Cos nobody likes to be...have items taken away from them.

0:34:28 > 0:34:30That's the rule of the jungle, isn't it?

0:34:30 > 0:34:34If we allow that, somebody attacks your property, you do what you like.

0:34:34 > 0:34:38You seek vengeance. That's vigilantism.

0:34:38 > 0:34:40I'm hopeful I will win.

0:34:40 > 0:34:41And that is it.

0:34:41 > 0:34:44My peers will put us right, won't they?

0:34:44 > 0:34:47- Your 12 good men... - On the jury.

0:34:47 > 0:34:49- Yeah.- See you, bye.

0:34:54 > 0:34:58When Nicholas Robinson eventually sobered up enough to be dealt with,

0:34:58 > 0:35:02he was charged on two counts of common assault.

0:35:02 > 0:35:05Would you like to make any reply to those charges? You don't have to.

0:35:05 > 0:35:09He pleaded guilty and was given a 12-month conditional discharge.

0:35:09 > 0:35:11Cheers, bye.

0:35:11 > 0:35:15OK, Mark, I'm going to charge you with a breach of ASBO.

0:35:15 > 0:35:19The 14-year-old boy admitted breaching his ASBO

0:35:19 > 0:35:22and got a 12-month youth rehabilitation order.

0:35:22 > 0:35:26Come on then. Your taxi's waiting.

0:35:26 > 0:35:29I'd have to be a bit naive to say I don't expect to see him back again

0:35:29 > 0:35:34because he's been through the custody system several times quite recently,

0:35:34 > 0:35:39but you can't write a 14-year-old child off at this stage, can you?

0:35:41 > 0:35:43Look at me, look at my finger.

0:35:45 > 0:35:48- So what have you had?- I dunno.

0:35:48 > 0:35:49Well, you must know.

0:35:49 > 0:35:51I dunno.

0:35:51 > 0:35:56The police never got to the bottom of what was wrong with the wheelbarrow thrower.

0:35:56 > 0:35:59But he did recover, admitted criminal damage,

0:35:59 > 0:36:02and was dealt with by the Youth Justice Service.

0:36:05 > 0:36:08Michael Lesley, arrested for nothing.

0:36:08 > 0:36:09Mr Cox was right.

0:36:09 > 0:36:13The evidence didn't stack up and he was set free.

0:36:13 > 0:36:18I was never in any doubt that I'd be released without charge.

0:36:18 > 0:36:22All this has done is cost me work because, as you saw, they took all my tools,

0:36:22 > 0:36:24and no tools, no work.

0:36:24 > 0:36:28But that's the police for you. They've a one-track mind.

0:36:28 > 0:36:34If they're sure...you've done something, they'll get their teeth into you and won't let go.

0:36:36 > 0:36:40The case against Mr Coupland was also dropped.

0:36:40 > 0:36:44It's got extensive...well, quite bad damage to both front-door handles.

0:36:44 > 0:36:49The man who'd tried to break into his van refused to give evidence.

0:36:51 > 0:36:56Matthew Higgins was convicted of attempted theft and going equipped.

0:36:56 > 0:36:59He got a three-month suspended prison sentence

0:36:59 > 0:37:02and had to pay Mr Coupland £420 compensation.

0:37:02 > 0:37:04It was the right outcome.

0:37:04 > 0:37:07You should be able to protect your own, er...

0:37:07 > 0:37:09gear what I've worked for.

0:37:09 > 0:37:12What I was charged with, there was no way I...I...

0:37:12 > 0:37:16went out intentionally to inflict the punishment that he got.

0:37:16 > 0:37:21He started it, he was the one with the crowbar, and...

0:37:22 > 0:37:25..he got what he deserved.

0:37:29 > 0:37:34Sgt Swann's shift is over, but like all good coppers, he's never off duty.

0:37:34 > 0:37:36Even the dog's worried.

0:37:36 > 0:37:39When he misbehaves, I just like to show him the other side,

0:37:39 > 0:37:42so he knows what's in store if he does it any more.

0:37:42 > 0:37:45So you learn your lesson, dog. Yes.

0:37:48 > 0:37:50Right, home time.

0:37:54 > 0:37:57Next time, the Lock Up becomes a kindergarten.

0:37:57 > 0:38:00- How old are you?- 15.

0:38:00 > 0:38:04Every year, 2,000 kids are banged up in Humberside.

0:38:04 > 0:38:08Right, a solicitor and lawyer is basically someone who'll come to the police station

0:38:08 > 0:38:11and help you with the legal side of things,

0:38:11 > 0:38:13all the law and stuff like that.

0:38:13 > 0:38:17And many of the adult guests are just big children.

0:38:17 > 0:38:20- Look at me! Look at me!- Don't look like you were going to spit at me.

0:38:20 > 0:38:21Look at this!

0:38:21 > 0:38:24- Calm yourself down.- What am I doing? - Calm yourself down.

0:38:24 > 0:38:30But the Lock Up is certainly no fit place for kids of any size.

0:38:34 > 0:38:36BANGING

0:38:37 > 0:38:40Answer the door!

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