0:00:02 > 0:00:06This programme contains some strong language.
0:00:06 > 0:00:10- The custody suite receive one of their youngest and shortest guests. - Ever been in custody?
0:00:10 > 0:00:15I'll have a word with the officer, find out why you're here and I've got to ask you questions.
0:00:15 > 0:00:20- Just answer them, best you can, OK? Do you know what a lawyer is?- No.
0:00:20 > 0:00:23A solicitor or a lawyer is somebody who will come to the police station
0:00:23 > 0:00:28and help you with the legal side of things - all the law and stuff like that.
0:00:28 > 0:00:31- Do you know how tall you are?- No.
0:00:31 > 0:00:36Will you stand up against the ruler when you get a second?
0:00:36 > 0:00:40- Four foot seven.- Yeah.
0:00:40 > 0:00:44The boy is 11-years-old but, arrested for theft,
0:00:44 > 0:00:46he's treated like any grown-up.
0:00:46 > 0:00:50I am authorising your detention here as my colleague said,
0:00:50 > 0:00:53if there is anything you are unsure about, just ask him
0:00:53 > 0:00:55and we will try and explain it better.
0:00:58 > 0:01:01Until it all gets sorted, I'm afraid.
0:01:01 > 0:01:04Welcome to The Lock Up.
0:01:06 > 0:01:12This is Hull, home to a quarter of a million people and Humberside Police.
0:01:12 > 0:01:15At police headquarters,
0:01:15 > 0:01:19the custody suite looks after 6,000 people every year.
0:01:22 > 0:01:25- Amongst them are 600 children. - And your date of birth?
0:01:25 > 0:01:29- 29 of the 12th, 1999. - How old does that make you then?- 12.
0:01:29 > 0:01:31The man in charge,
0:01:31 > 0:01:35Sgt Rich West knows the lockup is frightening, whatever your age.
0:01:35 > 0:01:39My eight-year-old is bigger than that lad in J1.
0:01:39 > 0:01:44Just think if she was in here. It is scary.
0:01:51 > 0:01:53Brief circumstances, please?
0:01:53 > 0:01:56This young man has been seen to be on the lower roof
0:01:56 > 0:02:02of the old New York building, removing items of metal and lead and he's been arrested.
0:02:02 > 0:02:04All right, can you give me a signature?
0:02:04 > 0:02:07- Do you know what your signature is? - No.
0:02:07 > 0:02:10If you can write your name just to say you've answered my questions.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13- Just write my name? - Just your name in that box.
0:02:13 > 0:02:18You will go down to a cell. The officer will show you where the button is if you need help
0:02:18 > 0:02:21while we sort out what's been going on.
0:02:21 > 0:02:24Pick your boots up and follow me.
0:02:27 > 0:02:32- 11 years old, first time in. - He looks very worried that one.
0:02:32 > 0:02:35I think he was getting a bit teary there
0:02:35 > 0:02:38when we were cutting the cords out of his pants.
0:02:38 > 0:02:42OK, let's bring the next one in.
0:02:42 > 0:02:47The boy was caught with an older mate who knows the routine.
0:02:47 > 0:02:51- Come and stand here. Have you been in custody before?- Yeah.
0:02:51 > 0:02:54When was it? A couple of weeks ago?
0:02:54 > 0:02:59Together they were found on a roof, suspected of stealing lead.
0:02:59 > 0:03:01And that's not all they were up to.
0:03:01 > 0:03:05That has to go in the bin. Too young to have them, aren't you?
0:03:05 > 0:03:08- That rubbish in your lungs. - And your date of birth?
0:03:08 > 0:03:12He's 14 years old.
0:03:12 > 0:03:16Do you know how tall you are? We'd better check to see if you've grown.
0:03:16 > 0:03:18Go up to that ruler, put your back to it.
0:03:18 > 0:03:22Was 4'8". What we now? 5'1". You've shot up.
0:03:22 > 0:03:28- You won't grow any more if you keep using those cigarettes.- Or cannabis.
0:03:28 > 0:03:34You just think when you were a child and I was still riding bikes when I was 14.
0:03:34 > 0:03:38So, to arrest someone who is 10, 11, 12 years,
0:03:38 > 0:03:43you just think what does the future hold for them when they start that young.
0:03:43 > 0:03:46Do you know what a solicitor is? Yes?
0:03:46 > 0:03:51- Do you want one this time? Or do you not?- No.- You're all right.
0:03:51 > 0:03:56In the lockup, there's a juvenile wing where the boys will be kept in separate cells.
0:03:56 > 0:03:59- Just grab your jacket and shoes. - Do you want a blanket?
0:03:59 > 0:04:04It shocks me that they are that small. Makes you have the "aw" factor!
0:04:04 > 0:04:08When they are that young and you see them walking down the custody block
0:04:08 > 0:04:12but we don't get many in.
0:04:12 > 0:04:16We don't see a lot of kids that age, thankfully.
0:04:16 > 0:04:21Thankfully indeed, because this is definitely no place for kids.
0:04:21 > 0:04:24- Offences?- Section 5, public order. - For what?
0:04:24 > 0:04:29Routine patrol then we come across this gentleman with his penis out
0:04:29 > 0:04:33urinating in full view of on-coming traffic and members of the public.
0:04:33 > 0:04:36Get your finger off the table.
0:04:36 > 0:04:39Not living up to his name is Ricky Love.
0:04:39 > 0:04:42I go to speak to him and before we could do checks et cetera,
0:04:42 > 0:04:46the male's behaviour became very aggressive.
0:04:46 > 0:04:47You was going to batter me.
0:04:47 > 0:04:51- He was stressed and said he was going to bite our nose off et cetera.- You're a fucking dog.
0:04:51 > 0:04:55I approached him and straight away he was abusive and very aggressive.
0:04:55 > 0:05:01I put the cuffs on him and he became even more aggressive, started struggling with us.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04He tried to spit at my colleague at the back of the car
0:05:04 > 0:05:09then it developed from there to where he was threatening to bite our noses off.
0:05:09 > 0:05:12I'm going to advise you now right at this moment none of that here, mate.
0:05:12 > 0:05:16You'd better make sure nothing like that happens again.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18- I am not like you.- Turn around.
0:05:18 > 0:05:24Spitting is an officer's nightmare because of the risk of infection.
0:05:24 > 0:05:30- Don't look at me, look that way. Don't look at me because you are going to spit at me.- Look at this.
0:05:30 > 0:05:37- Calm yourself down.- What are you doing?- Calm yourself down.
0:05:37 > 0:05:42- Why are you taking my trousers off? Look at you.- Are you calm now?
0:05:42 > 0:05:47- I am not struggling.- Calm down. - Let go.
0:05:51 > 0:05:56I ain't struggled, what are you doing? My fucking hands.
0:05:56 > 0:05:58- Calm down then.- I am calm.
0:05:58 > 0:06:03Then relax. No more silly spitting and noises, all right?
0:06:03 > 0:06:08- Get off me.- There you are, get yourself out. Put your hands up there. Put your hands up there.
0:06:08 > 0:06:12- Is it Ricky or Richard? - Put your hands on there.
0:06:12 > 0:06:14And your middle name is Ricky?
0:06:14 > 0:06:20- Ricky, you are 27, yes?- Yes.- Do you class yourself white and British?
0:06:20 > 0:06:25- Yes.- Do you know how tall you are? - All right.
0:06:25 > 0:06:27N6.
0:06:33 > 0:06:38Two more kids have been arrested, this time on their way to school.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42Two juvy females coming in for a shop theft from St Stephens.
0:06:42 > 0:06:45- One of them has kicked off. - Let's have a look.
0:06:45 > 0:06:48One is attacking security.
0:06:49 > 0:06:54- If you stand by that wall for me. - I have spoken to the officers, they're two sisters.
0:06:54 > 0:06:58It's the younger sister's first time in custody.
0:06:58 > 0:07:03- And the brief circumstances, please? - Police were called by security staff reporting that two females
0:07:03 > 0:07:06had been attacking them after being detained for shop theft.
0:07:06 > 0:07:11When we attended, the two females initially refused to give us details
0:07:11 > 0:07:15so, in order to identify them, we've had to arrest them.
0:07:15 > 0:07:21- So what are the issues of the shop theft?- She has been seen to conceal a bandage.
0:07:21 > 0:07:23Can you take your hair grips and your bobble out as well.
0:07:23 > 0:07:25Oh no, but I need it.
0:07:25 > 0:07:28You will just have to go for the wild look.
0:07:28 > 0:07:31I know how you feel to be honest. I struggled with my fringe.
0:07:37 > 0:07:39Right, I am going to do a risk assessment
0:07:39 > 0:07:43so don't be offended by any of these questions asked.
0:07:43 > 0:07:50- Have you had any alcohol, drugs or anything like that in the last 24 hours?- Solvents?
0:07:50 > 0:07:52- Not drugs.- Have you had any alcohol?
0:07:57 > 0:08:04- How old are you?- 15.- Can you take this lady down to J1 please, mate?
0:08:04 > 0:08:05Right, see later.
0:08:05 > 0:08:10It is a really low value shop theft but we couldn't ascertain their names or who they were.
0:08:10 > 0:08:13Once we got them separated, she's been a pleasure.
0:08:13 > 0:08:18It was bravado in front of her sister who was like a wild animal.
0:08:18 > 0:08:21We had to struggle with her to get her in handcuffs.
0:08:21 > 0:08:25- The older sister is 16. - Are you all right?
0:08:25 > 0:08:30You have obviously been crying. Are you all right? And the offence, please?
0:08:30 > 0:08:35She's assaulted a security guard by scratching his hands and kicking him in the shins.
0:08:35 > 0:08:37Can you start taking your jewellery off?
0:08:40 > 0:08:43Everything. In the back of the van, she didn't have this.
0:08:43 > 0:08:47She has indicated that she has been chewing inside her lips.
0:08:47 > 0:08:48It has got to come out.
0:08:48 > 0:08:50That's what I do with it.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53It has got to come out.
0:08:53 > 0:08:56She is calm now, she wasn't initially.
0:08:56 > 0:09:00When we informed her that she was under arrest, she exploded.
0:09:00 > 0:09:04Luckily, I have got a muscly colleague who came to my assistance.
0:09:04 > 0:09:07And the cause of all this trouble?
0:09:07 > 0:09:11- What are the marks on your arm?- Burns.- Burns. How did you do that?- Salt and ice.- Salt and ice?
0:09:11 > 0:09:15Salt and ice is the latest schoolyard dare.
0:09:15 > 0:09:21The girls were nicking the bandage to treat this self-inflicted frostbite.
0:09:21 > 0:09:27- If you put salt and ice on it, it burns you.- Why would you do that? - Don't know.- Just to see if it did.
0:09:27 > 0:09:30It's difficult for us, we need to get past the custody sergeant.
0:09:30 > 0:09:34When you are bringing in a child of 15 or 16 years old who's compliant
0:09:34 > 0:09:37then they're wondering why we've bought them here
0:09:37 > 0:09:40when we could deal with them by means of reprimand or caution.
0:09:40 > 0:09:43But we have to stress at the scene, that they were wild.
0:09:43 > 0:09:47They were like Jack Jekyll & Hyde. We had them her against the wall
0:09:47 > 0:09:50struggling to restrain her, she was like a wild animal.
0:09:50 > 0:09:54- Are you at work this morning? - Time to call the girls' dad.
0:09:54 > 0:10:00They have been arrested for suspicion of shop theft in the town centre.
0:10:00 > 0:10:03Would you be available, sort of, as and when we need you to come down?
0:10:05 > 0:10:07Oh, you're heading you're quite welcome to do that.
0:10:07 > 0:10:11I don't know how long you might have to wait at the front desk
0:10:11 > 0:10:13but you can come down and you can have a chat with them
0:10:13 > 0:10:14at any point, if you want to.
0:10:14 > 0:10:17All right, Cheers now. Thanks, bye.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19In here! Yeah.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22Right, I just need you to take your shoes off.
0:10:22 > 0:10:25Put them in that. That's your mattress.
0:10:26 > 0:10:27I know you're not but you can,
0:10:27 > 0:10:30but it's better to sit on there than this hard thing, innit?
0:10:30 > 0:10:34All right, if you need us press this buzzer for anything.
0:10:34 > 0:10:36Like, toilet, or whatever. If you need to speak to anyone.
0:10:36 > 0:10:39Just press that buzzer and we'll come down to you. All right?
0:10:41 > 0:10:44The officers are going to go and get statements,
0:10:44 > 0:10:45from the security staff,
0:10:45 > 0:10:47and then as soon as your dad gets here
0:10:47 > 0:10:48we'll get to interview you, all right?
0:10:48 > 0:10:51'With juveniles there's two schools of thought.'
0:10:51 > 0:10:53one, you can be nasty, to make sure they don't want to come back,
0:10:53 > 0:10:55or you can be nice to them.
0:10:55 > 0:10:58Erm, I think having two, having two girls myself,
0:10:58 > 0:11:01I think I take the nice approach to them, um,
0:11:01 > 0:11:05to make sure that, one, they're not going to do anything silly to themselves.
0:11:05 > 0:11:08The fact that they go in a cell,
0:11:08 > 0:11:09that's a bit of a shell shock for 'em anyway.
0:11:09 > 0:11:13So they'll have calmed down, they'll be here for a few hours,
0:11:13 > 0:11:15think about what they've done and they'll be dealt with.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18BEEPING
0:11:21 > 0:11:24Who's buzzing? What number?
0:11:24 > 0:11:27The 11-year-old boy wants some attention.
0:11:29 > 0:11:31Are you all right?
0:11:31 > 0:11:32Are you sure?
0:11:32 > 0:11:35Is this your first time in custody?
0:11:35 > 0:11:37What do you think of it? Boring, innit?
0:11:37 > 0:11:39No tellies or PlayStations in here, is there?
0:11:39 > 0:11:43Once your dad gets here, what's he going to say?
0:11:44 > 0:11:45Kick your butt?
0:11:46 > 0:11:48Do you want a drink or anything? Cup of tea?
0:11:49 > 0:11:52Do you want sugar in it? Two?
0:11:52 > 0:11:54Do you understand what's happening to you?
0:11:54 > 0:11:57Keep the water in case you want it later on.
0:11:57 > 0:11:58Don't you fall off that bench -
0:11:58 > 0:12:00you're not the biggest of lads, are you?
0:12:02 > 0:12:05'Sometimes they come in and they really like, "Yes, I'm in again,"
0:12:05 > 0:12:08'and they try and think the big I am. It's a bit of bravado for them,'
0:12:08 > 0:12:09innit, really?
0:12:09 > 0:12:11Tell their mates that they've been in custody
0:12:11 > 0:12:14but these two, they do look a bit scared
0:12:14 > 0:12:16but you want them to have a bit of a fear factor
0:12:16 > 0:12:18to try and put them off coming again.
0:12:18 > 0:12:20BEEPING
0:12:20 > 0:12:23Now the older boy wants some attention too.
0:12:25 > 0:12:28I couldn't hear you, what did you say?
0:12:28 > 0:12:31Is that what you've run the buzzer for? For me to take your cup?
0:12:31 > 0:12:32Like...yeah.
0:12:32 > 0:12:37Right. I'm going to switch it off if you keep buzzing for no reason.
0:12:37 > 0:12:40It could just stay there until you're given meals, all right?
0:12:41 > 0:12:44Do you know what he rang the buzzer for, Sarge?
0:12:44 > 0:12:47- "I've finished."- Oh, bless.
0:12:47 > 0:12:50Probably lonely and wants to talk to people.
0:12:50 > 0:12:54My eight-year-old is bigger than that lad that we've got in J1.
0:12:56 > 0:12:57Scary.
0:12:59 > 0:13:01Just think, if she was in here.
0:13:01 > 0:13:03HE CHUCKLES
0:13:03 > 0:13:06How old are you, Rich? You must be cracking on a bit?
0:13:06 > 0:13:08- 29.- What, again?
0:13:08 > 0:13:10Have you been stuck on 29 for about the last 15 years, have you?
0:13:10 > 0:13:13It's going to be a long night if you say I'm over 40.
0:13:13 > 0:13:16Or is it that you've snow on the roof, that makes you look older?
0:13:17 > 0:13:19THEY LAUGH
0:13:25 > 0:13:26Next, please!
0:13:26 > 0:13:30- Right, afternoon! Evening.- Morning.
0:13:30 > 0:13:31You been in custody before?
0:13:33 > 0:13:36- Years and years ago. - Right, well, what I'm going to do...
0:13:36 > 0:13:39John Farrow has just ploughed into a parked car
0:13:39 > 0:13:41but why he lost control is a mystery.
0:13:41 > 0:13:43..and the circumstances, please?
0:13:43 > 0:13:47We had a report that a male had been seen driving erratically and crashing into another vehicle.
0:13:49 > 0:13:50A witness spoke to him,
0:13:50 > 0:13:53he appeared to be under the influence of some sort of substance.
0:13:53 > 0:13:55MR FARROW HICCUPS
0:13:55 > 0:13:56Excuse me.
0:13:56 > 0:13:58How are you feeling at the moment?
0:13:58 > 0:14:00- Different.- Different?
0:14:02 > 0:14:06Have you consumed any alcohol or drugs in the last 24 hours?
0:14:06 > 0:14:11- Yeah, I don't think I've had any drugs.- You've had no drugs, right.
0:14:11 > 0:14:14- How much alcohol have you had? - That's what I'm on about.
0:14:14 > 0:14:15Last night...
0:14:20 > 0:14:24..I'll have had about less than a bottle of wine last night.
0:14:24 > 0:14:27- Last night?- Yeah.- Right, what about today? Have you had anything today?
0:14:27 > 0:14:29- I've had nothing today.- Right.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31- And you've had no drugs in the last 24 hours?- No.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- Well, something's making you slur a bit.- Um, I've had a wacky baccy.
0:14:34 > 0:14:36You've had a wacky baccy.
0:14:36 > 0:14:39When did you have your smoke then? When was it?
0:14:39 > 0:14:41- When I got up this morning.- Right.
0:14:41 > 0:14:44Do you use drugs every day? Do you use wacky baccy every day?
0:14:44 > 0:14:45Erm, no...
0:14:47 > 0:14:50If I had the chance I would but I don't.
0:14:50 > 0:14:53Right then, I'm going to authorise your detention at the police station
0:14:53 > 0:14:55so we can secure, preserve evidence
0:14:55 > 0:14:58in to the offence you've been arrested for. All right?
0:14:58 > 0:15:00Have I done anything wrong yet, then?
0:15:00 > 0:15:04Can't say at the moment. Do you want a solicitor?
0:15:04 > 0:15:06What for?
0:15:06 > 0:15:08I don't think it'll make no difference, will it?
0:15:08 > 0:15:11Well, it's up to you. Yes or no?
0:15:11 > 0:15:12- I'll think about it then.- OK.
0:15:12 > 0:15:14Right, do you want to come over here then?
0:15:15 > 0:15:17'When he came in he was looking at me
0:15:17 > 0:15:20'but everything I was saying wasn't going in.'
0:15:20 > 0:15:24It was as though he had taken drugs or drink.
0:15:24 > 0:15:29- On manner of experience, what would your thought be?- What's that?
0:15:29 > 0:15:30On this?
0:15:30 > 0:15:33- What? What you're being to blow? - Yeah.- I've no idea.
0:15:33 > 0:15:36Right, deep breath and blow.
0:15:36 > 0:15:41Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. That's it.
0:15:41 > 0:15:42Done.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45Now, what we do is we wait for the results, OK?
0:15:50 > 0:15:51Zero!
0:15:51 > 0:15:54So, it's nothing in my system at all?
0:15:54 > 0:15:56Yeah, if you've had some alcohol it's out of your system.
0:15:57 > 0:16:00Mr Farrow now thinks he can go home.
0:16:00 > 0:16:02- All these come... - I'm all free, I'm all free!
0:16:02 > 0:16:03HE LAUGHS
0:16:03 > 0:16:05He blew zero so I think that's
0:16:05 > 0:16:08when he decided that that was his pass to leave.
0:16:08 > 0:16:11John, just come here, John. John, just come here.
0:16:11 > 0:16:12The results are zero, do you wan...?
0:16:12 > 0:16:15I ain't done nothing, truthfully. I ain't done 'owt wrong.
0:16:15 > 0:16:17You forced me into this, I've had enough.
0:16:17 > 0:16:19'When he was told that he'd still be residing with us'
0:16:19 > 0:16:22he decided that he was going to take exception to that
0:16:22 > 0:16:24and get a little bit stroppy.
0:16:24 > 0:16:26Right, what I'm saying is do you want a copy of...?
0:16:26 > 0:16:29I've run from police on all occasions and I will do.
0:16:29 > 0:16:31Right, this way now, come on.
0:16:33 > 0:16:36'He's had something, so we can't just let him go'
0:16:36 > 0:16:38because if he gets back in a car
0:16:38 > 0:16:40he could wipe somebody out and kill somebody this time.
0:16:40 > 0:16:42So then we've got, it's on our conscience
0:16:42 > 0:16:44and we could have prevented that.
0:16:48 > 0:16:52KNOCKING ON DOOR
0:16:52 > 0:16:54Answer the door!
0:16:54 > 0:16:56BANGING ON DOOR
0:17:12 > 0:17:17The girl's dad has arrived in reception and he's not happy.
0:17:17 > 0:17:21I mean, the way they're treating them kids...to me,
0:17:21 > 0:17:24as they're serious criminals and they're not. They've done one mistake.
0:17:24 > 0:17:26It's the first time ever they've been done up like this.
0:17:26 > 0:17:30I'm just going to go and speak to the dad of the sisters that have come in.
0:17:30 > 0:17:35There's some question about his suitability for appropriate adult.
0:17:35 > 0:17:38When kids are in custody
0:17:38 > 0:17:40they need an appropriate adult to represent them.
0:17:40 > 0:17:44Normally, that's a parent but not always.
0:17:44 > 0:17:46I'm Sergeant West, I'm the custody sergeant at the moment.
0:17:46 > 0:17:49I understand there's some issue regards fingerprints and photographs.
0:17:49 > 0:17:51You're not...?
0:17:51 > 0:17:52Right. Have you...?
0:17:52 > 0:17:56I appreciate you've been in custody yourself before, is that right?
0:17:56 > 0:18:00So you know that by law we can take fingerprints by force if need be?
0:18:01 > 0:18:03Right, why is that then?
0:18:04 > 0:18:05Just...?
0:18:05 > 0:18:09But there's nothing in law that stops us from doing that.
0:18:11 > 0:18:12You can walk out, by all means, for me.
0:18:12 > 0:18:15What I can then deem is that you're not appropriate
0:18:15 > 0:18:16to be an appropriate adult...
0:18:16 > 0:18:18and then I can just get youth offending team
0:18:18 > 0:18:20to do that on my behalf.
0:18:20 > 0:18:23So, are you happy for me to go and do the fingerprints and DNA, then?
0:18:23 > 0:18:25OK, so I'll go and do that
0:18:25 > 0:18:27and I'll keep you updated once that's been done.
0:18:27 > 0:18:31The Youth Justice Service looks after kids in custody
0:18:31 > 0:18:34when an appropriate adult can't be found.
0:18:34 > 0:18:36Obviously, his concern is his children are in custody,
0:18:36 > 0:18:38um, which is understandable.
0:18:38 > 0:18:39Any parent whose children are in custody
0:18:39 > 0:18:41are normally quite apprehensive.
0:18:41 > 0:18:43What we do try to ensure is the parents understand
0:18:43 > 0:18:45why the children are in custody and the process
0:18:45 > 0:18:47in regards to what's going to happen.
0:18:47 > 0:18:50Are you going to cooperate during the interview?
0:18:50 > 0:18:53Well, I appreciate that and I want these girls out of here
0:18:53 > 0:18:54cos it's not a place for them
0:18:54 > 0:18:56and I want them to be released as soon as we can
0:18:56 > 0:18:58but I can't do that if I'm having little problems
0:18:58 > 0:19:00being chucked in the way, am I?
0:19:00 > 0:19:02If I think you're going to be obstructive then
0:19:02 > 0:19:06I just won't let you into the custody suite.
0:19:06 > 0:19:07OK.
0:19:07 > 0:19:08Right, in that case then,
0:19:08 > 0:19:11I'm not going to let you act as appropriate adult, all right?
0:19:11 > 0:19:14I'm going to let Youth Offending Team do that.
0:19:14 > 0:19:16'You could tell that he was being obstructive.
0:19:16 > 0:19:18'It's an inconvenience for him.'
0:19:18 > 0:19:22And, for me, he's not going to have the kids' best interests at heart.
0:19:22 > 0:19:25So at least if Michelle from the offending goes in with them
0:19:25 > 0:19:27she can be independent, she can act, she's used to it,
0:19:27 > 0:19:29she can act on their best interests.
0:19:31 > 0:19:32You want to come up, please?
0:19:45 > 0:19:47So, if you put your hand out.
0:19:47 > 0:19:49Now, your fingerprints, your photos
0:19:49 > 0:19:53and your DNA will be used to specifically search against any crimes.
0:19:53 > 0:19:55Have you ever watched, like, CSI or anything like that?
0:19:55 > 0:19:57- Where they put it through a computer?- Yeah.- Match it.
0:19:57 > 0:19:59- To find out who we are. - Yeah, that's what we do.
0:19:59 > 0:20:01Lovely.
0:20:01 > 0:20:03And if you just want to step that side.
0:20:03 > 0:20:06It may be the 15-year-old's first time in custody,
0:20:06 > 0:20:08but it's new to her dad being on the outside.
0:20:08 > 0:20:09This way.
0:20:48 > 0:20:51Ricky Love has slept off his anger at being caught
0:20:51 > 0:20:55peeing in the street, and is now fit for processing.
0:20:59 > 0:21:02Ricky's a hard man with a long criminal history,
0:21:02 > 0:21:05but recently things have changed,
0:21:05 > 0:21:08and he's beginning to see the value of family.
0:21:08 > 0:21:09When was you last in, Ricky?
0:21:11 > 0:21:13A while ago?
0:21:19 > 0:21:21So you've not been in for a while?
0:21:25 > 0:21:27You getting fed up of it?
0:21:29 > 0:21:30How old is he?
0:21:35 > 0:21:36Yeah.
0:21:41 > 0:21:44It's the drink, demon drink, isn't it?
0:21:47 > 0:21:50Well hopefully you won't be here too long, all right?
0:21:50 > 0:21:53Can you just sign there to say that they're your prints, please?
0:21:55 > 0:21:57Do you want a cup of tea or do you want water?
0:21:57 > 0:21:58Cup of tea, please.
0:21:58 > 0:22:01- Do you want sugar? - Two, please.- Two sugars.
0:22:01 > 0:22:03Come on then, we'll take you back.
0:22:06 > 0:22:08You'll be all right. Come on.
0:22:11 > 0:22:13Just treat it as a one-off.
0:22:20 > 0:22:23I'll get you your brew, all right?
0:22:26 > 0:22:30I've been in and out of jail the last 11 years, in and out, you know.
0:22:30 > 0:22:35This is where it's led me but the most important thing in my life now
0:22:35 > 0:22:38is my son,
0:22:38 > 0:22:42and that has kept me out of prison for...nearly two years in August.
0:22:44 > 0:22:48It's made me proud of myself. It's kept me off drugs.
0:22:48 > 0:22:50He's sobering up a bit now.
0:22:51 > 0:22:55I think he's maybe just been silly, urinating in the street.
0:22:55 > 0:23:00Um, he wants to get back to his son, so...
0:23:00 > 0:23:03I think the sergeant's going to arrange to get him out of here
0:23:03 > 0:23:04as soon as he can.
0:23:04 > 0:23:08So I'm bringing up two girls what aren't my girls.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11They're my girlfriend's girls, but they call me dad.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14That means the world to me. That's what I want in my life.
0:23:16 > 0:23:18It's always been up there, like.
0:23:18 > 0:23:22You always say, "I'm never going back," but you do end up going back,
0:23:22 > 0:23:24but now I've got everything not to go back,
0:23:24 > 0:23:28and this is why I'm angry with myself for having a stupid wee.
0:23:31 > 0:23:33Here you go, Ricky.
0:23:36 > 0:23:37I'm going to have a word with the sarge
0:23:37 > 0:23:40about what's happening with you, all right?
0:23:40 > 0:23:43Cos you've come off drink a bit, haven't you?
0:23:43 > 0:23:45So watch that cos it's really hot.
0:23:45 > 0:23:49Um, yeah, so I'll come back and tell you what's going to happen.
0:23:53 > 0:23:55A brew does wonders for everyone.
0:23:58 > 0:24:00Even the girls' dad is starting to see sense.
0:24:00 > 0:24:03'He's calmed down a hell of a lot now.'
0:24:03 > 0:24:06He needed a tea with some sugar in so I've given him that,
0:24:06 > 0:24:07which seemed to build bridges.
0:24:07 > 0:24:10I'll let you know as soon as we know.
0:24:10 > 0:24:12'I think he's appropriate now.'
0:24:12 > 0:24:15A cup of tea - it can turn anybody around.
0:24:15 > 0:24:16A nice cup of tea.
0:24:16 > 0:24:18Come through.
0:24:19 > 0:24:22Do you want to leave your hat off? I don't think you'll need it in there!
0:24:30 > 0:24:34What have you been doing? You've been doin' something. Should've been at school.
0:24:34 > 0:24:35Yeah, I know...
0:24:35 > 0:24:37Never mind that you know.
0:24:44 > 0:24:45You all right?
0:24:45 > 0:24:47I bet you've been scared.
0:24:48 > 0:24:51Do you want to come this way with me?
0:24:51 > 0:24:55Both girls will now have Dad in on their interviews.
0:24:55 > 0:24:57You could look at the triage side of things,
0:24:57 > 0:25:00but there has to be an admission. It can't be that they're denying it.
0:25:00 > 0:25:03Unfortunately, if there is a denial, it will go straight to court
0:25:03 > 0:25:07because there's no other process we can do if they don't admit to what they've done.
0:25:07 > 0:25:11Triage means they'll be released without further action,
0:25:11 > 0:25:14as long as they know that what they did was wrong.
0:25:14 > 0:25:19You've been arrested for shop theft for a £1.65 packet of bandages.
0:25:19 > 0:25:22- Yeah, we had £1.54... - I gave you money this morning.
0:25:22 > 0:25:24Yeah, I know, but we had to get a bandage.
0:25:24 > 0:25:27- I always give you money. - Yeah, I know...
0:25:27 > 0:25:30So you've gone into Tesco with your sister, yeah?
0:25:30 > 0:25:32Don't cry.
0:25:32 > 0:25:33Let me get you some tissues.
0:25:33 > 0:25:36I give you pennies, darling.
0:25:36 > 0:25:39Come here.
0:25:39 > 0:25:41I knew you'd be upset.
0:25:41 > 0:25:45- So were you on your way to school? Is that where you were going?- Yeah.
0:25:45 > 0:25:48- What was wrong with- BLEEP's- arm? Why did she need a bandage?
0:25:48 > 0:25:52She's... You know what people have done, like a sort of ice challenge?
0:25:52 > 0:25:53- Yes.- She's done them.
0:25:53 > 0:25:58And, like, one arm started bleeding and it goes all down her arm, so...
0:25:58 > 0:25:59So you knew
0:25:59 > 0:26:02you'd need a bandage and you knew you didn't have enough money
0:26:02 > 0:26:05and you knew you were going to steal it, is that what you're saying?
0:26:05 > 0:26:07We didn't know we were going to steal it until, like,
0:26:07 > 0:26:10we worked out how much we had left, because we felt we had enough.
0:26:10 > 0:26:16- And then, like, the police came and- BLEEP- started kicking off
0:26:16 > 0:26:21and they put her in handcuffs because she was, like, real stressy.
0:26:21 > 0:26:24Do you understand that taking something from a shop
0:26:24 > 0:26:28- that's not yours is wrong without paying for it?- Yeah.- OK.
0:26:28 > 0:26:31And this is the consequence of that. Even when you do it
0:26:31 > 0:26:33with the best of intentions,
0:26:33 > 0:26:35it's still stealing. The daft thing is,
0:26:35 > 0:26:37they have a first aid point in St Stephen's,
0:26:37 > 0:26:41- so you could have gone to a security guard and they'd have given her a bandage.- Yeah, I know.
0:26:41 > 0:26:44All right, let's get you in there.
0:26:46 > 0:26:48'I'm a bit annoyed that it's over a bandage.'
0:26:48 > 0:26:51I saw her with money this morning. I'd never have pictured it.
0:26:53 > 0:26:57If I'd known that was all, I'd have got her one myself.
0:26:57 > 0:26:59She's all yours.
0:26:59 > 0:27:03Now it's the older sister's turn, and she's in bigger trouble,
0:27:03 > 0:27:06also accused of assaulting the security guard.
0:27:06 > 0:27:08If they'd behaved at the scene, they wouldn't be here.
0:27:08 > 0:27:12The security would have dealt with it, wouldn't have got the police involved.
0:27:12 > 0:27:16So it's gone from a simple, low-value shop theft
0:27:16 > 0:27:18to a possible assault,
0:27:18 > 0:27:20coming into custody and going through the system.
0:27:20 > 0:27:22Stop shaking.
0:27:22 > 0:27:24Tell me what happened.
0:27:24 > 0:27:27We tried just to get out, and he pushed me against the wall.
0:27:27 > 0:27:31I didn't make it so I kicked off, and I started punching and kicking him.
0:27:31 > 0:27:33Then he rammed me into the door.
0:27:33 > 0:27:35And then the police came.
0:27:35 > 0:27:37They probably needed to take your details first,
0:27:37 > 0:27:40and that's why they were asking you to stay a bit longer.
0:27:40 > 0:27:43Yeah, but there was no need to push her against the wall.
0:27:43 > 0:27:45I understand that. I just need to talk to her
0:27:45 > 0:27:48about the allegation that's been made against her at the moment.
0:27:48 > 0:27:51But it's no use saying "allegation against her".
0:27:51 > 0:27:54At the end of the day, he's done what he's done.
0:27:54 > 0:27:55They are allowed to...
0:27:55 > 0:27:57He's not allowed to do it to a minor.
0:27:57 > 0:28:01- I've got the right to knock his head off.- No, you haven't.- I have.
0:28:01 > 0:28:02Can I ask you to calm down,
0:28:02 > 0:28:04otherwise I'll ask you to leave the interview
0:28:04 > 0:28:07and leave the custody suite, OK?
0:28:07 > 0:28:08Do you think that that behaviour
0:28:08 > 0:28:11that you showed there is appropriate?
0:28:11 > 0:28:13I don't know what happened, I just...
0:28:13 > 0:28:15- Just got a bit angry? - Yeah, first time I've done it.
0:28:15 > 0:28:18When you're nice to people, like you're being nice to me now,
0:28:18 > 0:28:20and you're talking to me quite respectfully
0:28:20 > 0:28:22and I'm talking to you respectfully,
0:28:22 > 0:28:24you get more out of people, don't you?
0:28:24 > 0:28:27I don't need to tell you that assaulting somebody
0:28:27 > 0:28:31who was trying to detain you for a criminal offence is wrong.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33- I'm sure you understand that, don't you?- Yeah.
0:28:34 > 0:28:38Andrew, my advice to you would be, do not go round and punch him.
0:28:38 > 0:28:41- I want to.- I know.
0:28:41 > 0:28:44But we all want to do things, don't we, and we can't do them.
0:28:44 > 0:28:47Otherwise, you'll end up in here, which is no use to these two, is it?
0:28:47 > 0:28:49It's scary.
0:28:49 > 0:28:52I honestly thought they'd either deny it,
0:28:52 > 0:28:55or Dad would be more obstructive than he was,
0:28:55 > 0:28:57but he was all right until the second interview,
0:28:57 > 0:28:58so we did OK, really.
0:28:58 > 0:29:01'Both of them have no previous convictions,
0:29:01 > 0:29:04'so I'll look at speaking to the Youth Offending Team
0:29:04 > 0:29:06'for disposal by way of triage.'
0:29:06 > 0:29:09Hopefully, that'll be better than taking them to court.
0:29:09 > 0:29:11And they're definitely banned from Tesco as well,
0:29:11 > 0:29:14so the outcome there's better. I'm just hoping Dad doesn't go in.
0:29:19 > 0:29:23John Farrow, the man who crashed his car,
0:29:23 > 0:29:25but wasn't over the limit, is getting impatient.
0:29:27 > 0:29:28No.
0:29:32 > 0:29:33OK.
0:29:38 > 0:29:40This has all been explained to you, hasn't it?
0:29:42 > 0:29:44You've been locked up for being unfit through drink or drugs,
0:29:44 > 0:29:45so it's an impairment,
0:29:45 > 0:29:48following the accident you had. Can you remember that much?
0:29:50 > 0:29:53Exactly. That suggests to me that you're still under the influence.
0:29:58 > 0:30:01He's started trying to tell me what to do,
0:30:01 > 0:30:03but there's only one gaffer in here and that's me,
0:30:03 > 0:30:05so I don't like it when people try and tell me.
0:30:05 > 0:30:08BANGING AT DOOR
0:30:08 > 0:30:11He's still obviously under the influence of something.
0:30:14 > 0:30:16To work out what he's under the influence of,
0:30:16 > 0:30:20the cops have another trick up their sleeve.
0:30:20 > 0:30:23These boys are here to do the Field Impairment Test,
0:30:23 > 0:30:28which is a series of interesting little tests
0:30:28 > 0:30:32to see if they think that he's under the influence.
0:30:32 > 0:30:35If they deem that he is, then they will ask for an FME
0:30:35 > 0:30:36to come out and take blood,
0:30:36 > 0:30:39obviously for the offence of impairment.
0:30:39 > 0:30:42Can you take him down with the traffic officers into the yard?
0:30:42 > 0:30:43- Yeah.- Take him that way.
0:30:43 > 0:30:45- VIA MONITOR:- 'Right.
0:30:45 > 0:30:47'Won't take too long, but it's just a series of tests
0:30:47 > 0:30:50'to see whether you're actually impaired to drive.'
0:30:50 > 0:30:52Now the bobby's showing him how to do it.
0:30:52 > 0:30:55'You must raise your right foot, keeping your legs straight
0:30:55 > 0:30:56'and your toes pointing forward.'
0:30:56 > 0:31:00This is the one leg stand test. He's got to lift his foot.
0:31:00 > 0:31:04..Pointing your toe six to eight inches off the ground.
0:31:04 > 0:31:05Count out loud.
0:31:05 > 0:31:081,001, 1,002.
0:31:08 > 0:31:10'1,002, 1,000...'
0:31:16 > 0:31:18- 'Which bit'd you like? - Can I stand on that?- Right,
0:31:18 > 0:31:22'the next one is called the finger and nose test.
0:31:22 > 0:31:23'When I tell you which hand to move,
0:31:23 > 0:31:26'you must touch the tip of your nose with the tip of that finger.'
0:31:26 > 0:31:29We might have the old...
0:31:32 > 0:31:34'Right. Next one,'
0:31:34 > 0:31:37you must take nine heel to toe steps along the line.
0:31:37 > 0:31:41He needs to walk toe-to-toe, and not go off the line.
0:31:41 > 0:31:46'Keep your left foot on the line and spin around using little steps.'
0:31:47 > 0:31:52Either the line keeps moving, or he's not adhering to that line.
0:31:52 > 0:31:55'Right, done. Come here, young man.'
0:31:59 > 0:32:02# Because you're mine I walk the line... #
0:32:05 > 0:32:08Right.
0:32:08 > 0:32:10I would say that he has passed the test.
0:32:10 > 0:32:14The items that he has failed are not down to his impairment,
0:32:14 > 0:32:16but may be down to his lack
0:32:16 > 0:32:18of possible mental capacity to understand what was meant of him.
0:32:18 > 0:32:23So I would say that he isn't impaired, based on this test.
0:32:23 > 0:32:26He's certainly under the influence of something.
0:32:26 > 0:32:27I would suggest that a blood test
0:32:27 > 0:32:31would be a more accurate reading of exactly what's in his system,
0:32:31 > 0:32:34and a doctor's statement to indicate whether he feels
0:32:34 > 0:32:37that he would have been impaired at the time of driving.
0:32:38 > 0:32:40'From my observations about the test,
0:32:40 > 0:32:43'it looked like he may have failed it.
0:32:43 > 0:32:45'However, the bobbies have come back and said that he's passed.'
0:32:45 > 0:32:49They still think he may be under the influence of something, which coincides with
0:32:49 > 0:32:52the fact that he's said he's under medication, and he's had some today.
0:32:52 > 0:32:56But Mr Farrow is now refusing to co-operate any more.
0:32:58 > 0:33:02We've tried to get blood. He's been in a while. He's refused to give urine.
0:33:02 > 0:33:03He's refused to give blood.
0:33:03 > 0:33:08Therefore we're going to keep him in custody until the morning,
0:33:08 > 0:33:11until he's fit. Let the medication wear off.
0:33:11 > 0:33:15Then he'll be fit to be spoken to and fit to be charged as well.
0:33:21 > 0:33:25A night in the cells brings most people to their senses.
0:33:25 > 0:33:29As a new day dawns at Priory Road, it's checking out time.
0:33:29 > 0:33:32The first to leave are the two boys
0:33:32 > 0:33:34suspected of stealing lead from a roof.
0:33:34 > 0:33:36Are you ready to go?
0:33:38 > 0:33:42Having admitted their crime, they're about to be released without charge.
0:33:42 > 0:33:46All the 11-year-old needs to worry about is his mum.
0:33:46 > 0:33:48Cup of tea.
0:33:50 > 0:33:51Is he yours?
0:34:06 > 0:34:08'You don't want them to come back. It's not an environment'
0:34:08 > 0:34:11that you want a small child to basically be in.
0:34:11 > 0:34:14While you're on bail, you don't want to commit any more offences,
0:34:14 > 0:34:16all right?
0:34:16 > 0:34:19I don't think you will come any more, to be honest.
0:34:19 > 0:34:21You've got very neat writing as well.
0:34:21 > 0:34:24'You could tell he was scared, and he was thinking about what he's done.'
0:34:24 > 0:34:28I don't think he'll commit any more offences, really.
0:34:28 > 0:34:30'I know sometimes, we feel sorry for them.'
0:34:30 > 0:34:34But the message is that we don't want them back,
0:34:34 > 0:34:36and I think Mum will give him more punishment than we can.
0:34:42 > 0:34:46- I've got family.- Lovely. - That's what I miss.
0:34:46 > 0:34:50Ricky is also being reunited with his child.
0:34:50 > 0:34:54For weeing in public, he's got a 12 month conditional discharge.
0:34:54 > 0:34:57I didn't really mean no harm but...
0:34:57 > 0:34:59that's the way things are.
0:35:00 > 0:35:05- How are you feeling at the moment? - Different.- Different.
0:35:05 > 0:35:08John Farrow, the man who crashed his car,
0:35:08 > 0:35:10WAS under the influence of drugs -
0:35:10 > 0:35:12prescription painkillers for a bad back.
0:35:12 > 0:35:15'I hadn't been to my doctor for a while,
0:35:15 > 0:35:19'and my tablets were all coming down to my last ones.'
0:35:19 > 0:35:23I didn't realise that I shouldn't have been taking certain tablets while driving.
0:35:23 > 0:35:24Didn't even kick in.
0:35:24 > 0:35:29Right, Mr Farrow, are you fit and well to get home?
0:35:29 > 0:35:30I will do my best.
0:35:30 > 0:35:34He wasn't done for the crash, but for refusing the blood test.
0:35:34 > 0:35:37He was fined £50 and banned from driving for a year.
0:35:37 > 0:35:41I must admit, next time I see any of you, I will run.
0:35:41 > 0:35:45Well, you'd better start running now, then.
0:35:45 > 0:35:47Anyway, see you later, Mr Farrow.
0:35:47 > 0:35:53- You'll be with us again in about a month, OK?- I can imagine. Cheers.
0:35:56 > 0:36:00The father of the two shoplifters is nervously awaiting their fate.
0:36:19 > 0:36:23- But Dad's got to help them do that. - They're first going to be triaged,
0:36:23 > 0:36:26which means they're going to get released. As far as we're concerned,
0:36:26 > 0:36:27it's over and done with.
0:36:27 > 0:36:29There's no criminal conviction or anything.
0:36:29 > 0:36:32We do need, obviously, as part of it,
0:36:32 > 0:36:34we want to make sure triage works,
0:36:34 > 0:36:37because we don't want them back in police custody.
0:36:37 > 0:36:40I don't know how you feel about that?
0:36:40 > 0:36:42I'll do whatever I can.
0:36:42 > 0:36:45We'll hear from you when you get back.
0:36:45 > 0:36:46OK, we'll go to the desk
0:36:46 > 0:36:49and explain to the girls what's happening.
0:36:53 > 0:36:56I think they've learnt their lesson. She has. Definitely, haven't you?
0:36:56 > 0:36:59The state of you.
0:36:59 > 0:37:01I'll explain what's happening.
0:37:01 > 0:37:04There will be no further action at this time.
0:37:04 > 0:37:07The truth has set them free, but was it the whole truth?
0:37:20 > 0:37:23In the nicest possible way, I don't want to see you in here again, OK?
0:37:23 > 0:37:25You're free to go.
0:37:25 > 0:37:28Good. I've been here five hours.
0:37:28 > 0:37:31- I'll give you a ring later on. - All right.- All right, cheers.
0:37:31 > 0:37:34See ya.
0:37:34 > 0:37:36I'm happy with them, but I'm also annoyed
0:37:36 > 0:37:39that they pinched a bandage when they had money on them.
0:37:41 > 0:37:44They've got to pay for it. They've taken, what, 70-odd pence.
0:37:45 > 0:37:48Could have avoided all this, couldn't you? Eh?
0:37:48 > 0:37:52Where we can, we will deal with juveniles outside of custody
0:37:52 > 0:37:56and get other agencies involved like Youth Offending.
0:37:56 > 0:37:58But it can't be nice for people to come in here.
0:37:58 > 0:38:02I know I'm in here, and it's nice seeing me,
0:38:02 > 0:38:04but not with kids in here.
0:38:16 > 0:38:20Next time, it's shutdown in The Lock Up.
0:38:20 > 0:38:21Have you got rigid cuffs?
0:38:24 > 0:38:28A man who's been seized is having a seizure.
0:38:28 > 0:38:30Calm down.
0:38:30 > 0:38:33Another man picked up...
0:38:34 > 0:38:35..is having a paddy.
0:38:43 > 0:38:47And if you value your freedom, assaulting an officer
0:38:47 > 0:38:50isn't the best course of action, no matter how rock solid your defence.
0:38:51 > 0:38:53Well, I tell you what,
0:38:53 > 0:38:58- I've read some fairy tales in all my life, but- that- takes the biscuit.
0:38:58 > 0:38:59Fair enough.
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