0:00:03 > 0:00:11This programme contains some strong language
0:00:19 > 0:00:21South Wales Police. What's your emergency?
0:00:22 > 0:00:24Hello?
0:00:25 > 0:00:28Where were they? Outside the house?
0:00:28 > 0:00:29They were in the house?
0:00:29 > 0:00:30Yes. In the house.
0:00:30 > 0:00:32Where did you see him in the house?
0:00:37 > 0:00:39Did you get a description of them?
0:00:39 > 0:00:41Or how many of them there were?
0:00:46 > 0:00:47Are you OK?
0:00:48 > 0:00:49Yes, I can imagine.
0:00:49 > 0:00:52- But I'm all right.- Yeah.
0:00:58 > 0:01:01They say, if you can work in The Valleys, you can work anywhere.
0:01:02 > 0:01:05We deal with the same people on a daily basis.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07Everybody knows everybody.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09We are all one big family!
0:01:09 > 0:01:11It's very close-knit around here.
0:01:11 > 0:01:13So, I think, a strict, regimented way of policing
0:01:13 > 0:01:15would never work around here.
0:01:16 > 0:01:18What I just said...
0:01:18 > 0:01:22Because it's a small community, you know, there's been occasions
0:01:22 > 0:01:25where I've had to deal with my extended family in custody.
0:01:25 > 0:01:26It's a bit awkward.
0:01:34 > 0:01:37In The Valleys, most people like to sort things out themselves.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40They don't want the police sticking their nose in.
0:01:42 > 0:01:43- Ow!- Watch your head.
0:01:44 > 0:01:47My children have got to grow up around here.
0:01:47 > 0:01:49Imagine if you're from somewhere else
0:01:49 > 0:01:51and you come into a place like this,
0:01:51 > 0:01:53it's like landing on a different planet.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16MUSIC: Northern Lites by Super Furry Animals
0:02:20 > 0:02:2432-year-old Mark Jones is one of the youngest detectives on the force.
0:02:26 > 0:02:27Valleys born and bred,
0:02:27 > 0:02:30he's been policing the area for the last 10 years.
0:02:31 > 0:02:34It makes your job easier when you grow up in the same place.
0:02:34 > 0:02:37Come from similar backgrounds, went to the same schools.
0:02:40 > 0:02:43Everybody knows everybody. They look out for each other.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49Seven o'clock, was it?
0:02:49 > 0:02:51I remember, years ago, being a little kid, growing up
0:02:51 > 0:02:54in Cwmbran, you walk in to your next door neighbour's or your friend's.
0:02:54 > 0:02:58Just walk in, you wouldn't even knock. The door's open for you.
0:02:58 > 0:03:00You could help yourself to the cupboards, the food.
0:03:00 > 0:03:02That's just the way it is, you know.
0:03:02 > 0:03:03Hello again. You OK?
0:03:03 > 0:03:05Force of habit, really.
0:03:05 > 0:03:06You'd only leave your door open.
0:03:07 > 0:03:10It's unfortunate, people do know that, as well.
0:03:10 > 0:03:12They walk around trying door handles and in they go.
0:03:16 > 0:03:18Mark's investigating two burglaries
0:03:18 > 0:03:20that took place in Mountain Ash overnight.
0:03:26 > 0:03:28Mountain Ash kind of polices itself.
0:03:34 > 0:03:36If somebody's got a problem with somebody else,
0:03:36 > 0:03:38they tend to sort it out themselves and they don't involve us.
0:03:38 > 0:03:42If something happens, you can look on Facebook before you come to work,
0:03:42 > 0:03:43you know, that happened last night.
0:03:43 > 0:03:46So you kind of know what you're coming into, as well.
0:03:46 > 0:03:48So, if something happens, you can guarantee within the first hour
0:03:48 > 0:03:50of it happening, it's on Facebook.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55One of the burglary victims has posted his own CCTV images online,
0:03:55 > 0:03:59hoping locals in Mountain Ash will identify the thief.
0:04:05 > 0:04:06That's the best thing.
0:04:06 > 0:04:09If anything goes on, you know someone will know about it.
0:04:09 > 0:04:12Or, if he don't know about it, someone will find out about it.
0:04:12 > 0:04:14This, now, that you've been on my doorstep filming
0:04:14 > 0:04:18will be all over Facebook and all around this town within an hour.
0:04:20 > 0:04:22Now, Jack. Come on.
0:04:24 > 0:04:26Come on, Austin. Put it in, Austin.
0:04:26 > 0:04:27That's disgusting, shocking.
0:04:27 > 0:04:29To think that can happen in The Valleys.
0:04:29 > 0:04:31Creepers going around in the night, right.
0:04:31 > 0:04:34Off their faces on probably who knows what. Heroin, everything.
0:04:34 > 0:04:36People that break into shops and stuff like that, all right.
0:04:36 > 0:04:39I don't condone it but I understand people need to make money.
0:04:39 > 0:04:42But breaking into people's houses when they're in bed in the night,
0:04:42 > 0:04:43that's just an no-go area, like.
0:04:43 > 0:04:46I tell you something now, if they come into my house,
0:04:46 > 0:04:48it's game over for them.
0:04:48 > 0:04:49Faster!
0:04:59 > 0:05:02If that's not a distinctive picture, I don't know what is.
0:05:02 > 0:05:04Because, at the end of the day, like,
0:05:04 > 0:05:06I'm not being nasty, or taking the pee,
0:05:06 > 0:05:08but that's a big old hooter, innit?
0:05:09 > 0:05:13It's been shared on and on and on. "You can tell who it is."
0:05:13 > 0:05:16"Fucking disgusting." "He's the first person I thought of."
0:05:16 > 0:05:18Apparently, the name has been put on there over 400 times,
0:05:18 > 0:05:19by all accounts.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23The man being named by the community
0:05:23 > 0:05:25is 42-year-old John Gino Williams.
0:05:25 > 0:05:27He has a history of shoplifting
0:05:27 > 0:05:30but no previous for burglary.
0:05:31 > 0:05:33"Hope the police catch him before family members
0:05:33 > 0:05:35"or some locals catch him.
0:05:35 > 0:05:37"I see some badly broken bones on the horizon."
0:05:46 > 0:05:49Former nightclub bouncer Jason Penney has been
0:05:49 > 0:05:52looking for John Gino after one of his family was also burgled.
0:05:54 > 0:05:56Myself and my brother are well known in the area.
0:05:56 > 0:05:58When we were younger, we were called The Krays.
0:05:58 > 0:06:01We had a reputation where nothing was too hot.
0:06:01 > 0:06:03Getting into fights was a normality.
0:06:03 > 0:06:05People in the area do know us
0:06:05 > 0:06:08and they do know that, if they mess with the wrong family
0:06:08 > 0:06:10then, obviously, you know, there will be consequences.
0:06:12 > 0:06:14Mark's had a call from Jason.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16He's confronted John Gino in the street
0:06:16 > 0:06:18and told him to wait for the police.
0:06:20 > 0:06:23My first reaction was anger because, you know, we know Gino
0:06:23 > 0:06:25and Gino knows who we are.
0:06:25 > 0:06:28His sister said to me in the street, you know, they came up,
0:06:28 > 0:06:31you know, "Please don't hit him. Please don't hit him."
0:06:32 > 0:06:34You're under arrest on suspicion of burglary.
0:06:34 > 0:06:37You don't have to say anything. It may harm your defence if you
0:06:37 > 0:06:39don't mention when questioned something you later rely on in court.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42- Anything you do say may be given in evidence. Understand?- Yeah.
0:06:42 > 0:06:45All right, John. Get you in the car. You're freezing, innit?
0:06:45 > 0:06:48He's from here. He's born and bred. His family are here.
0:06:48 > 0:06:51The phrase they use is shitting on your own doorstep.
0:06:51 > 0:06:54And it doesn't go down very well.
0:06:54 > 0:06:56So, he's probably better off with us for the time being,
0:06:56 > 0:06:58I would have thought. More for his own safety.
0:07:12 > 0:07:14He's drug dependent.
0:07:14 > 0:07:16Alcohol dependent, as well.
0:07:16 > 0:07:19So, he's got no real form of income whatsoever.
0:07:20 > 0:07:24He's, obviously, desperate measures, resorted to bad crimes.
0:07:28 > 0:07:30Now I'm going to take a quick photograph of you now, OK?
0:07:30 > 0:07:32So, there's going to be a bright light coming on.
0:07:32 > 0:07:35If you can just look straight ahead at the top circle for me.
0:07:35 > 0:07:39There we are. Right. You can relax now.
0:07:42 > 0:07:43- No.- No.
0:07:43 > 0:07:45Any new scars at all? Nothing like that?
0:07:50 > 0:07:52With the suspect in custody,
0:07:52 > 0:07:56Mark visits the burglary victims who captured the incident on CCTV
0:07:56 > 0:07:58to collect evidence.
0:07:59 > 0:08:01Eating lots of pink biscuits?
0:08:01 > 0:08:03You've been spoiled!
0:08:03 > 0:08:05Is that because you've been good? Yeah.
0:08:07 > 0:08:10My name's Mark. Have you been a good boy?
0:08:10 > 0:08:11Yeah?
0:08:15 > 0:08:17If it hadn't have been for the baby waking up,
0:08:17 > 0:08:20then he wouldn't have come down and scared him off.
0:08:20 > 0:08:22I nearly jumped out of my skin.
0:08:23 > 0:08:26I've never felt like this before. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
0:08:27 > 0:08:29- OK?- I know.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37Can we go back a bit to see his trainers, please?
0:08:45 > 0:08:48- We're going to go back to work now.- Why?
0:08:48 > 0:08:50To catch the bad people, haven't we?
0:08:50 > 0:08:53Yeah. So long. Ta-ra.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04There's been a big crack cocaine problem in The Valleys.
0:09:04 > 0:09:07Which, obviously, it's not cheap to buy. So...
0:09:08 > 0:09:10The level of crime is rising.
0:09:10 > 0:09:12So, we're starting to deal with a lot more burglaries.
0:09:16 > 0:09:19The police begin searching addresses linked to John Gino,
0:09:19 > 0:09:21looking for the stolen property.
0:09:25 > 0:09:28They are hoping his neighbours might have seen something.
0:09:30 > 0:09:33I hear the door about seven o'clock in the morning.
0:09:33 > 0:09:35Him coming in very quietly.
0:09:35 > 0:09:39And he's there for about 10, 20 minutes.
0:09:39 > 0:09:42Then he creeps out.
0:09:42 > 0:09:44And, I mean, me being here on my own.
0:09:44 > 0:09:46You know, it's a bit intimidating. So...
0:09:46 > 0:09:48Well, he's with us at the moment
0:09:48 > 0:09:51and he's not going to be coming out for a bit, anyway. So...
0:09:54 > 0:09:58- I shouldn't say that.- You haven't seen him in the last 24 hours?
0:09:58 > 0:09:59No, no, no.
0:09:59 > 0:10:01This is a nice little block.
0:10:01 > 0:10:03And everybody's so tidy.
0:10:03 > 0:10:07And then you just get one rotten apple and it only takes one.
0:10:08 > 0:10:11Looks like it's already been smashed in.
0:10:17 > 0:10:20I've known him for years. He's always shoplifting.
0:10:20 > 0:10:22He said to me, earlier in the car, that his dad died this year.
0:10:22 > 0:10:27Septicaemia. And I knew his sister had, his brother, as well.
0:10:27 > 0:10:30So, in the last year, he's had three family deaths.
0:10:30 > 0:10:32This is what you're dealing with.
0:10:53 > 0:10:56The police haven't found any of the stolen goods,
0:10:56 > 0:10:58so they still need to build a case against John Gino
0:10:58 > 0:11:00or convince him to confess.
0:11:12 > 0:11:14I feel sorry for him in a certain way,
0:11:14 > 0:11:16but in another way you don't,
0:11:16 > 0:11:19because nobody's holding a knife to him saying, "Burgle this house."
0:11:19 > 0:11:22So, what do you do with him? You know what I mean?
0:11:22 > 0:11:25Lock him up. It's all you can do with him, isn't it?
0:11:25 > 0:11:28People round here haven't got well paid jobs, do you know what I mean?
0:11:28 > 0:11:30You get by on what you do.
0:11:30 > 0:11:33But for someone to just come into the house and take something,
0:11:33 > 0:11:35is appalling.
0:11:43 > 0:11:45He won't come back to the Valley.
0:11:58 > 0:12:00Go ahead, caller.
0:12:00 > 0:12:01Just ahead. Straight on.
0:12:01 > 0:12:03Straight?
0:12:08 > 0:12:11The Valleys can get tasty, can get violent.
0:12:11 > 0:12:12There's always people fighting.
0:12:12 > 0:12:15This people fighting everywhere, all the time.
0:12:15 > 0:12:17That's all you seem to do on response
0:12:17 > 0:12:20is breaking up people's fights, or getting involved in fights.
0:12:22 > 0:12:26Last night, a man was found badly beaten in the street in Mountain Ash
0:12:26 > 0:12:29and is currently unconscious in intensive care.
0:12:32 > 0:12:35The police believe the man was assaulted at his friend's house
0:12:35 > 0:12:37before being dragged onto the pavement.
0:12:40 > 0:12:43- Can we come in, butt?- Yeah.- All right. If you lock the dogs away.
0:12:43 > 0:12:46Shaun! Put the dogs away!
0:12:46 > 0:12:49There's a certain way Valleys people talk to each other
0:12:49 > 0:12:51and communicate with each other.
0:12:51 > 0:12:53That familiarity between people.
0:12:59 > 0:13:01I say "butt" a lot. I've got to try and get out of that.
0:13:01 > 0:13:04I say a lot of that, in interviews, as well.
0:13:04 > 0:13:07It must make the sound very simple when I go to court and things
0:13:07 > 0:13:10and they are reading interview transcripts and that.
0:13:10 > 0:13:14I'm like, "Right then, butt. Right then, butt." It just means "mate".
0:13:14 > 0:13:15All right, butt?
0:13:18 > 0:13:21He was found not too far from here, right?
0:13:23 > 0:13:25What I would say to you is, right?
0:13:25 > 0:13:26You're both, at the moment,
0:13:26 > 0:13:29under arrest on suspicion of Section 18 assault.
0:13:29 > 0:13:31All right?
0:13:37 > 0:13:38All right. We'll sort that out.
0:13:38 > 0:13:41I won't leave you in the lurch. I'm going to caution you both.
0:13:41 > 0:13:42All right?
0:13:45 > 0:13:48You don't have to say anything but it may harm your defence
0:13:48 > 0:13:51if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court.
0:13:51 > 0:13:54Anything you do say may be given in evidence. All right?
0:13:54 > 0:13:56- Do you both understand the caution? - Yeah.
0:13:56 > 0:13:58- Have you got any reply to the caution?- No.
0:14:00 > 0:14:03Pat, can you do me a favour? Just stand up for me and turn around.
0:14:03 > 0:14:06I just got to give you a quick search. All right, butt?
0:14:06 > 0:14:09The suspects are 44-year-old Paddy, a single father of three...
0:14:09 > 0:14:12Just stay still for me, butt. Keep your hands in the air.
0:14:12 > 0:14:14..and his 20-year-old stepson Shaun.
0:14:14 > 0:14:17- Do you understand why you've been arrested?- Yeah.
0:14:18 > 0:14:21It's the first time Shaun has ever been arrested.
0:14:21 > 0:14:23Grab a seat on the bench there. Sit down. Sit down.
0:14:25 > 0:14:27Right, keep your hands still now, right? OK?
0:14:27 > 0:14:29Watch your head, Bale? OK?
0:14:29 > 0:14:31- Ow!- Watch your head.- Watch your head!- Are you all right?
0:14:31 > 0:14:32No! He snapped my hand.
0:14:32 > 0:14:36Response cop Nathan has picked up on a comment made by Paddy
0:14:36 > 0:14:39about the state of the victim on the evening of the assault.
0:14:47 > 0:14:50Before arrest, you said that. You're not signing it? All right.
0:14:51 > 0:14:52No bother.
0:15:00 > 0:15:02Letting us know that he's downed a bottle of whisky
0:15:02 > 0:15:05suggests that he was absolutely blotto
0:15:05 > 0:15:07and he's probably fallen over, or something.
0:15:07 > 0:15:10That's what he's probably trying to make us think. Yeah?
0:15:19 > 0:15:22INDISTINCT VOICES
0:15:32 > 0:15:33First things first.
0:15:33 > 0:15:35I just need a signature to say that you don't want to read
0:15:35 > 0:15:37the codes of practice at this time.
0:15:54 > 0:15:55Don't even know what the time is.
0:16:05 > 0:16:06No, no.
0:16:08 > 0:16:12Most of the people who we deal with are used to being in custody
0:16:12 > 0:16:15and used to the system, being interviewed,
0:16:15 > 0:16:17being arrested, going to court.
0:16:17 > 0:16:20I mean, you go to court these days and it's like a circus.
0:16:20 > 0:16:23People take their kids there, their babies.
0:16:23 > 0:16:28There's kids running around court and it's just... It's ridiculous.
0:16:28 > 0:16:30It's absolutely ridiculous.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32When we go through, yeah, Shaun.
0:16:32 > 0:16:37Speak to the custody Sergeant at the desk. The officer will...
0:16:37 > 0:16:41But for people who haven't been arrested before
0:16:41 > 0:16:44and people who are not used to be arrested and going into custody
0:16:44 > 0:16:48and things, I can imagine, it's very, very intimidating.
0:16:48 > 0:16:51- Shouldn't be too much longer now, all right?- Yeah.
0:16:51 > 0:16:53As the victim is in a critical condition,
0:16:53 > 0:16:55Paddy and his stepson Shaun are held
0:16:55 > 0:16:58on suspicion of committing a section 18 GBH.
0:16:59 > 0:17:02An offence that could result in life in prison.
0:17:16 > 0:17:17OK.
0:17:20 > 0:17:22Whilst you are speaking in the holding cell,
0:17:33 > 0:17:34"He didn't mean to do anything."
0:17:36 > 0:17:37"I didn't see anything."
0:17:40 > 0:17:41"People just wind him up."
0:17:56 > 0:18:00From what I know, I think Shaun hasn't a lot of experience
0:18:00 > 0:18:02with coming into custody and things like that.
0:18:02 > 0:18:05It's a very serious offence to be accused of, in the first place.
0:18:05 > 0:18:08For someone like that to come into custody,
0:18:08 > 0:18:10you can imagine how they're feeling.
0:18:10 > 0:18:11They're probably panicking
0:18:11 > 0:18:15some people just talk when they shouldn't really talk.
0:18:15 > 0:18:17Obviously, it's great for us.
0:18:17 > 0:18:21Because we've got something to question Patrick on. But...
0:18:22 > 0:18:25He's landed his father in it, I think, a bit. So...
0:18:26 > 0:18:28There we are. Schoolboy error.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40- RADIO:- 24 hours a day, the world's best bulbs.
0:18:43 > 0:18:45MUSIC: Abracadabra by The Steve Miller band
0:18:49 > 0:18:53Obviously, a few pints must sway your frame of mind a lot.
0:18:53 > 0:18:56Everyone's been there where you had a few pints and start a fight, like.
0:18:56 > 0:18:58Everyone's seen it.
0:19:03 > 0:19:06Maybe an argument over somebody looking at your girlfriend.
0:19:06 > 0:19:09You might be somebody like me that's fucking steaming, drunk,
0:19:09 > 0:19:13and somebody's going to take offence to something and it happens.
0:19:13 > 0:19:15..the old saying.
0:19:23 > 0:19:26The recent burglaries have been the talk of Mountain Ash.
0:19:29 > 0:19:31They're really outraged about it.
0:19:31 > 0:19:34Like, it really shouldn't be happening in a community this small.
0:19:34 > 0:19:37Like, if you're struggling, ask someone.
0:19:37 > 0:19:39More times than not, they will help.
0:19:39 > 0:19:41Especially around here.
0:19:49 > 0:19:51Mark is preparing to interview John Gino,
0:19:51 > 0:19:54the man named on Facebook as the Mountain Ash burglar.
0:19:56 > 0:19:59None of the stolen property has been found but they have the CCTV.
0:20:02 > 0:20:04Because of the strength of the evidence,
0:20:04 > 0:20:06it's either going to be, I'd say, no comment interview,
0:20:06 > 0:20:08or it'll be a full and frank admission.
0:20:08 > 0:20:12So distinctive, his features, especially his nose.
0:20:13 > 0:20:15This interview is being visually recorded.
0:20:15 > 0:20:18I'm Detective Constable 4687 Mark Jones.
0:20:19 > 0:20:21I don't want to sound too confident, mind,
0:20:21 > 0:20:25because it could all go pear shaped but, yeah, I am pretty confident.
0:20:25 > 0:20:28I've dealed with a lot of burglaries previously.
0:20:28 > 0:20:30There's quite strong evidence against him
0:20:30 > 0:20:32so I think he's...
0:20:32 > 0:20:34I think he's got problems.
0:20:34 > 0:20:36John, the reason why you've been arrested
0:20:36 > 0:20:38is on suspicion of two burglaries.
0:20:38 > 0:20:42That's the thing they've posted on Facebook. Is that you?
0:20:45 > 0:20:47You stayed at Colin's all night?
0:20:55 > 0:20:57What were you doing over there?
0:20:59 > 0:21:01Can you tell me what you were wearing?
0:21:08 > 0:21:10Do you know anything about that burglary?
0:21:17 > 0:21:19Pop your shoes off.
0:21:19 > 0:21:21Put them in there.
0:21:23 > 0:21:24Pop the jacket off, as well.
0:21:29 > 0:21:32A bit unexpected. I thought it was going to be no comment interview
0:21:32 > 0:21:34but he's given a full and frank account now. So...
0:21:35 > 0:21:37Off we go to sort that out.
0:21:37 > 0:21:38Just...
0:21:39 > 0:21:41If he's in prison.
0:21:45 > 0:21:48Whilst John Gino has been in custody,
0:21:48 > 0:21:51the Mountain Ash community's own investigation has continued
0:21:51 > 0:21:53and there's been a development.
0:21:54 > 0:21:57There's been information passed around on Facebook saying
0:21:57 > 0:21:59it's Lightfoot. We've got the wrong one.
0:22:01 > 0:22:05Now the finger has been pointed at Jason Lightfoot,
0:22:05 > 0:22:08a convicted burglar who's kept out of trouble for the last few years.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12If you look at his nose...
0:22:13 > 0:22:15A bit bigger build.
0:22:15 > 0:22:17He lives the opposite side.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19You know, where the Esso garage is, Mountain Ash.
0:22:19 > 0:22:20OK.
0:22:24 > 0:22:27No, it's all shoplift.
0:22:27 > 0:22:29You've got none?
0:22:29 > 0:22:30All shoplifting.
0:22:32 > 0:22:34If he's not guilty of this, then,
0:22:34 > 0:22:35maybe he should put his own Facebook post up
0:22:35 > 0:22:37saying it wasn't me, it was him!
0:22:39 > 0:22:41Woo-woo! It's the sound of the police.
0:22:41 > 0:22:43Woo-woo! It's the sound of the police.
0:22:49 > 0:22:51With another Facebook lead to follow,
0:22:51 > 0:22:55Mark has brought in a support team to track down the new suspect.
0:22:56 > 0:22:57Right, Sarge.
0:22:58 > 0:23:00It's two people burglaries.
0:23:00 > 0:23:03That's our suspect there, Jason Lightfoot.
0:23:03 > 0:23:06- Right, has he got previous for this, as well?- Yes. Perfect.
0:23:06 > 0:23:09Four, five, six, maybe seven strikes burglar. So...
0:23:09 > 0:23:12There's every chance he's going to be expecting us, then, is he?
0:23:12 > 0:23:14At the moment, the post on Facebook was all pointing to
0:23:14 > 0:23:17- the boy we've got in custody. - Yeah.- And everyone's blamed him.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20So, he might have thought, "Oh, I got away with this."
0:23:22 > 0:23:24Jase!
0:23:24 > 0:23:25Police!
0:23:25 > 0:23:28But it's not just the police looking for the thief.
0:23:28 > 0:23:32Jason Penney, the man who caught John Gino joined the hunt
0:23:32 > 0:23:34after seeing Lightfoot named online.
0:23:37 > 0:23:40In Mountain Ash, if someone does wrong by someone else,
0:23:40 > 0:23:41you'll find the vigilante groups.
0:23:41 > 0:23:44You do get guys who are out and about looking, trying to help you.
0:23:44 > 0:23:48I never criticise it because, like, we try and do our best,
0:23:48 > 0:23:51try and help. That's exactly what they are doing.
0:23:51 > 0:23:53What I want Jason Lightfoot to feel is the fear
0:23:53 > 0:23:56that my sister-in-law and her daughter felt on that night
0:23:56 > 0:23:58when they knew there was someone in the house.
0:23:58 > 0:24:00I want him to feel fear that somebody was after him
0:24:00 > 0:24:01and he knew somebody that was after him
0:24:01 > 0:24:04that wasn't going to worry about him carrying a weapon
0:24:04 > 0:24:06or wasn't going to worry about him what he was going to do.
0:24:06 > 0:24:09I wanted the information to get to him that we were looking for him
0:24:09 > 0:24:10and we knew he did that burglary.
0:24:10 > 0:24:12He was going to fear us catching him, basically,
0:24:12 > 0:24:14before the police caught him.
0:24:22 > 0:24:23I haven't.
0:24:23 > 0:24:26He changes his number all the time.
0:24:27 > 0:24:28We need to speak to him.
0:24:28 > 0:24:30So, if we don't catch up with him and he comes back,
0:24:30 > 0:24:35best thing to do is get him to go to a police station, really.
0:24:35 > 0:24:36Just so we can have a chat
0:24:36 > 0:24:39and sort out the matter that needs to be sorted out.
0:24:47 > 0:24:50Shaun is waiting to be questioned about the assault in Mountain Ash.
0:24:53 > 0:24:54I'm 20 years old.
0:24:54 > 0:24:56I've never touched a drug.
0:24:56 > 0:24:59Not done a drug. I don't touch anything.
0:25:00 > 0:25:04I drink when one of my mates' birthday, or sisters,
0:25:04 > 0:25:06but I don't hardly drink.
0:25:17 > 0:25:19And I raised him up since then.
0:25:22 > 0:25:25When Shaun was a teenager, Paddy and his mum split up.
0:25:26 > 0:25:29Shaun wasn't getting on with his mum, so Paddy took him in.
0:25:58 > 0:26:00Paddy has been interviewed
0:26:00 > 0:26:02about the assault that allegedly took place in this house,
0:26:02 > 0:26:05leaving his friend in intensive care.
0:26:08 > 0:26:11On solicitor's advice, he's gone no comment throughout.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17Would you like a cup of tea or anything before we start?
0:26:17 > 0:26:20- No, I'm all right, I am. - You sure?- Yeah.- Right.
0:26:20 > 0:26:22So, ready to go. Shaun, you ready to go, yes?
0:26:22 > 0:26:23Right. OK.
0:26:23 > 0:26:26Although it's his first time in custody,
0:26:26 > 0:26:29Shaun has chosen not to have a solicitor.
0:26:29 > 0:26:31This is your turn to talk. OK?
0:26:31 > 0:26:32Right.
0:26:32 > 0:26:34Shaun, you're here because you've been arrested
0:26:34 > 0:26:36on suspicion of a GBH and assault.
0:26:36 > 0:26:37How was he injured?
0:26:43 > 0:26:45That's it. He was all... Face.
0:26:56 > 0:26:59A witness has told police they'd seen the victim
0:26:59 > 0:27:03being carried out of Paddy's house and left on the pavement.
0:27:03 > 0:27:06Police suspect Paddy might have asked Shaun to help.
0:27:06 > 0:27:08Where were you when you first saw him?
0:27:15 > 0:27:16Pulse?
0:27:20 > 0:27:23He wasn't on the road, like you first said, was he?
0:27:23 > 0:27:24So, that's not the truth, is it?
0:27:24 > 0:27:27I know it's difficult because your dad's probably involved.
0:27:27 > 0:27:29He's critically ill at the hospital.
0:27:31 > 0:27:34Can't breathe for himself, a machine is doing that for him.
0:27:36 > 0:27:37Obviously, you're concerned about him
0:27:37 > 0:27:40because you checked his vital signs, didn't you? You checked his pulse.
0:27:43 > 0:27:45You carried him out of the house, didn't you?
0:27:45 > 0:27:48He's been carried out of your house. Are you carrying him?
0:27:50 > 0:27:53You were carrying him. Who else is carrying him?
0:27:53 > 0:27:54Truth now.
0:28:04 > 0:28:07There's a good chance you could go to prison for this
0:28:07 > 0:28:10because you have assisted an offender by carrying the victim
0:28:10 > 0:28:11to get him outside.
0:28:11 > 0:28:13- Who do you think has assaulted - BLEEPED- ?
0:28:14 > 0:28:16I were there when it happened.
0:28:16 > 0:28:18- Has your father assaulted - BLEEPED- ?
0:28:26 > 0:28:29And I just hope he hasn't done it, to be honest.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33I'm stopping the recording.
0:28:41 > 0:28:44I don't know what happened that night.
0:28:44 > 0:28:47Only they really know what happened that night.
0:28:47 > 0:28:50If it was my father, if my father was in a predicament
0:28:50 > 0:28:51and he needed my help,
0:28:51 > 0:28:54then I would do everything I could to try and help him.
0:28:56 > 0:28:59Wait there for me for two seconds.
0:28:59 > 0:29:02To get to the truth of Shaun and Paddy's involvement,
0:29:02 > 0:29:04detectives now have to persuade neighbours to talk.
0:29:07 > 0:29:11It's a typical Valleys town where everybody knows everybody else.
0:29:11 > 0:29:14And, you know, tension is certainly running high.
0:29:14 > 0:29:17I've been spending a bit of time over there the last 24 hours.
0:29:17 > 0:29:21None of them are very willing to converse with the police normally.
0:29:21 > 0:29:24But I think, you know, they are all on board with this
0:29:24 > 0:29:27because they see it as something that's gone too far.
0:29:32 > 0:29:34Detectives have identified the neighbour who called
0:29:34 > 0:29:36the ambulance anonymously.
0:29:37 > 0:29:40Paddy's drinking buddy Robbie
0:29:40 > 0:29:41who they've known for years.
0:29:50 > 0:29:53I warned Robbie last night that he had to stay off it this morning.
0:29:56 > 0:29:59Think that's where they've slung him.
0:29:59 > 0:30:00On the floor.
0:30:00 > 0:30:02On there. Just a bit further down here.
0:30:04 > 0:30:09Mostly, the older generation, will talk to police.
0:30:09 > 0:30:11They won't told you what's happened
0:30:11 > 0:30:13with regards to an incident.
0:30:13 > 0:30:16They'll tell you what Liz next door is doing,
0:30:16 > 0:30:18or having for tea and things like that.
0:30:22 > 0:30:25You build up a familiarity with these people
0:30:25 > 0:30:30that's bordering on unnatural, if that makes sense.
0:30:30 > 0:30:31Ah, there's the man!
0:30:31 > 0:30:35- How are you, fella, are you all right?- All right?- Yeah, come in.
0:30:39 > 0:30:40You all right, butt?
0:30:40 > 0:30:44Rob, obviously, we need to get a statement from you, fella, we do.
0:30:44 > 0:30:47- Is that all right? Are you happy to do that.- Yeah, I'm happy to do that.
0:30:47 > 0:30:49Fab. OK.
0:30:49 > 0:30:51Will you come with us
0:30:51 > 0:30:53down to Mountain Ash police station for us to take that off you?
0:30:56 > 0:30:58All right. OK. All right.
0:30:59 > 0:31:01All right. No worries. Take your time.
0:31:20 > 0:31:22Why, though? Why go that far?
0:31:25 > 0:31:28Consensus amongst them all is that he's gone too far.
0:31:28 > 0:31:31Whatever's happened in that house has gone way too far.
0:31:33 > 0:31:37In his statement, Robbie tells police that he wanted to move
0:31:37 > 0:31:39the victim out of Paddy's house for his safety...
0:31:41 > 0:31:42..and asked Shaun to help.
0:31:45 > 0:31:48Robbie did say, he said, he was tidy, he was helpful.
0:31:48 > 0:31:50"He helped me," he said.
0:31:50 > 0:31:53"I just wanted him out of there." And he did help to get him out.
0:31:56 > 0:31:59Shaun is no longer suspected of assisting an offender
0:31:59 > 0:32:01and is released without charge.
0:32:10 > 0:32:13We've taken further statements from one of the witnesses there
0:32:13 > 0:32:17and he was the neighbour and he actually has told us that
0:32:17 > 0:32:20he instructed Shaun to help to carry him to get him outside.
0:32:20 > 0:32:23He's tried to do the right thing, to be fair to him.
0:32:23 > 0:32:24He didn't really know what to do.
0:32:24 > 0:32:27And, so, I made the decision, basically, we weren't going
0:32:27 > 0:32:31to charge him with any offences and he was released without charge.
0:32:34 > 0:32:37I'm feeling relieved that I'm out.
0:32:37 > 0:32:39I can't believe it. It was...
0:32:39 > 0:32:42..a hard place to go in.
0:32:42 > 0:32:44The cells. It was scary.
0:32:46 > 0:32:49I'm very glad to be out there.
0:32:49 > 0:32:50And...
0:32:59 > 0:33:01Paddy is remanded in custody.
0:33:01 > 0:33:04With no-one claiming to have witnessed the assault,
0:33:04 > 0:33:07the investigation hinges on the victim being able
0:33:07 > 0:33:09to give a statement, but he's still in a coma.
0:33:20 > 0:33:21What's your name, mate?
0:33:22 > 0:33:24- What's your name?- Jason Lightfoot.
0:33:24 > 0:33:26Jason, I'm going to search you now, right.
0:33:26 > 0:33:28Stand back from the desk, all right? Thank you.
0:33:30 > 0:33:33The new Mountain Ash burglary suspect Jason Lightfoot
0:33:33 > 0:33:34has handed himself in.
0:33:42 > 0:33:44The fact that family and his friends
0:33:44 > 0:33:47know what he's obviously got up to and probably got sick and tired of him.
0:33:47 > 0:33:50Probably they said, "Best thing for you to do is hand yourself in."
0:33:50 > 0:33:52As well as the community looking for him, as well.
0:33:52 > 0:33:55So, you know, place of safety, straight to a police station.
0:33:56 > 0:33:58No.
0:34:02 > 0:34:04Do I look violent to you? But don't tell them.
0:34:07 > 0:34:10We're looking to see if we can stop him destroying any evidence.
0:34:12 > 0:34:15- What do you mean?- We're going to go round the houses now
0:34:15 > 0:34:17and we're going to do section 18 searches at your addresses
0:34:17 > 0:34:19just to see if there's anything...
0:34:23 > 0:34:25Do you want a solicitor at the moment?
0:34:58 > 0:35:02Done a search of his mam's house and we found a Superdry jacket.
0:35:04 > 0:35:06I have been keeping out of trouble for years.
0:35:06 > 0:35:08For years I kept out of trouble.
0:35:08 > 0:35:10And then I get picked up for this and it just all...
0:35:12 > 0:35:14It's just all getting put on me.
0:35:15 > 0:35:19And, when he's come into custody, these are his trainers,
0:35:19 > 0:35:22which he's accepted, he signed for them as his property.
0:35:22 > 0:35:25And they seem to be the same trainers of the guy
0:35:25 > 0:35:27on the CCTV, as well.
0:35:28 > 0:35:32The amount of work that I've put in in the last three years
0:35:32 > 0:35:36to turn my life around and here I am again looking at years.
0:35:36 > 0:35:37I've got everything I want.
0:35:37 > 0:35:41Everything I want and it's all been taken from me right now.
0:35:43 > 0:35:45And I can't even have a fag to chill me out.
0:35:49 > 0:35:53Also, in Mam's address of the suspect, hid in an airing cupboard
0:35:53 > 0:35:56under a pile of clothes was this black handbag.
0:35:56 > 0:35:58We've taken it to the victim of one of burglaries
0:35:58 > 0:36:00and she's positively identified, basically,
0:36:00 > 0:36:02that's her handbag stolen from the house.
0:36:13 > 0:36:17The original burglary suspect John Gino is now in the clear.
0:36:40 > 0:36:42Word quickly spreads around town that he is innocent.
0:36:45 > 0:36:48We have apologised to his family. We have said sorry.
0:36:48 > 0:36:51And I am sorry that the wrong person got the blame for something
0:36:51 > 0:36:53they didn't do.
0:36:53 > 0:36:56But that's the only downside to social media.
0:36:56 > 0:36:58Now he's got a tarred name because of it.
0:37:01 > 0:37:05And, probably, some people will hear the fact that that's not true.
0:37:05 > 0:37:08Only the ones that care about the person will probably care
0:37:08 > 0:37:10whether it's true or not.
0:37:20 > 0:37:22You're looking well, butt.
0:37:32 > 0:37:35Yeah. No problem at all. I'll sort that out now. And a shower.
0:37:35 > 0:37:38After being released without charge, Shaun is back in Mountain Ash.
0:37:40 > 0:37:44Paddy's teenage daughters have had to move in with relatives
0:37:44 > 0:37:46whilst the assault case is investigated.
0:37:48 > 0:37:51If he's charged with GBH, Paddy faces years in prison.
0:38:07 > 0:38:11The police have been given an update on the victim's condition.
0:38:12 > 0:38:16They put him in an induced coma to do the CT scan and, obviously,
0:38:16 > 0:38:19- to drain the lungs.- Why did they need to drain the lungs?
0:38:19 > 0:38:21Blood in the lungs.
0:38:21 > 0:38:23They took him off ventilation this morning
0:38:23 > 0:38:26and then allowed him to come round from sedation and they said,
0:38:26 > 0:38:30yeah, that he was conscious and able to talk to us.
0:38:33 > 0:38:35The victim is now expected to make a full recovery.
0:38:37 > 0:38:39And has given a statement to the police.
0:38:43 > 0:38:46He was able to give us some sort of account.
0:38:46 > 0:38:48It was a bit, you know,
0:38:48 > 0:38:50trying to pull teeth, at times, with him.
0:38:50 > 0:38:55But he's basically said that he's gone to Paddy's in the evening,
0:38:55 > 0:38:57Paddy's given him some whisky.
0:38:57 > 0:38:59He's been drinking heavily.
0:38:59 > 0:39:01And taking God knows what.
0:39:01 > 0:39:06So, he doesn't remember why or how but later on in the evening,
0:39:06 > 0:39:08him and Paddy started arguing.
0:39:11 > 0:39:14Bickering, he said, wasn't it? They've been bickering.
0:39:14 > 0:39:17- Was the word used. - And then they fronted each other.
0:39:19 > 0:39:21Paddy's got aggressive towards him.
0:39:21 > 0:39:23And he's got no recollection after that.
0:39:23 > 0:39:27He doesn't know what happened to him. Doesn't remember being hit.
0:39:27 > 0:39:29Doesn't remember anything. Just...
0:39:29 > 0:39:32His next recollection is waking up in the hospital.
0:39:38 > 0:39:40Despite being badly injured, the victim has asked the police
0:39:40 > 0:39:44not to charge Paddy with GBH, the most serious assault charge.
0:39:45 > 0:39:48He said to me in the hospital today,
0:39:48 > 0:39:50"He's got kids. Can't he just be done for ABH?"
0:39:52 > 0:39:55- That's what he said? - That's what the victim said, yes.
0:39:55 > 0:39:57That's The Valleys mentality, isn't it?
0:39:57 > 0:40:01Being honourable to other people and being kind,
0:40:01 > 0:40:04even in the most extreme circumstances like that.
0:40:04 > 0:40:08He's got problems of his own, so let's show a bit of mercy on him.
0:40:08 > 0:40:11It's unbelievable. It's incredible.
0:40:11 > 0:40:13It's the way we are brought up, really.
0:40:13 > 0:40:15You know, we were brought up to look after each other, like.
0:40:15 > 0:40:17That's the sort of community we've been brought up in.
0:40:17 > 0:40:19It's been like that since we were young.
0:40:27 > 0:40:30On one hand, you don't want him to be seriously injured but...
0:40:30 > 0:40:33..when they are, it gives us a better charge.
0:40:41 > 0:40:43- Thank God, he's back home. - I know he's there for me.
0:40:43 > 0:40:46I know that, I've always known that.
0:41:06 > 0:41:08- In total?- Yeah.
0:41:18 > 0:41:19He has got a good heart, that boy.
0:41:19 > 0:41:22But I just wish he'd grow a brain with his heart.