KKK: The Fight for White Supremacy

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0:00:02 > 0:00:07This programme contains very strong language and some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting

0:00:07 > 0:00:10The Ku Klux Klan is America's most notorious white supremacist group.

0:00:10 > 0:00:11- MAN:- White power.

0:00:11 > 0:00:13- ALL:- White power!

0:00:14 > 0:00:17And they say they're recruiting new members

0:00:17 > 0:00:19in preparation for a race war.

0:00:19 > 0:00:21- CHILD:- White power.

0:00:21 > 0:00:23It'll be a great war across America

0:00:23 > 0:00:26and I will not call it a civil war cos it'll be anything but that,

0:00:26 > 0:00:29cos you'll see a bunch of Americans getting killed and blown up.

0:00:29 > 0:00:32So when a white supremacist massacred nine black people

0:00:32 > 0:00:35saying he wanted to start the race war,

0:00:35 > 0:00:38America felt on the verge of a terrifying reality.

0:00:38 > 0:00:40We are under a terrorist attack.

0:00:40 > 0:00:42Come protect us!

0:00:42 > 0:00:45This is what happened when I followed the Ku Klux Klan

0:00:45 > 0:00:47as they protested near the scene of the massacre...

0:00:47 > 0:00:49- BLEEP- the KKK!

0:00:51 > 0:00:53..to be confronted by the New Black Panthers.

0:00:54 > 0:00:57- Black power! - I'm a journalist from the BBC.

0:00:57 > 0:00:59- I wouldn't give a- BLEEP - where you from, cracker,

0:00:59 > 0:01:01you blue-eyed devil.

0:01:02 > 0:01:06And I found myself on the front line of the Klan's race war.

0:01:06 > 0:01:09- Black power! BLACK POWER! - White power! White power!

0:01:09 > 0:01:12CONFLICTING CHANTING

0:01:33 > 0:01:35You know people say the Klan is wrong,

0:01:35 > 0:01:36they're a bunch of hate mongers,

0:01:36 > 0:01:39we're a bunch of mean, evil racists, but we're normal people.

0:01:41 > 0:01:43After months of negotiations,

0:01:43 > 0:01:45a chapter of the Ku Klux Klan agreed to meet me.

0:01:47 > 0:01:50We all come from different walks of life.

0:01:50 > 0:01:52One of us is a school teacher.

0:01:53 > 0:01:55You know, one of us works at a hospital.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59We do have people that are in politics

0:01:59 > 0:02:02and we will not tell you who they are, but that's the thing,

0:02:02 > 0:02:04you know, our strength lies in secrecy.

0:02:08 > 0:02:11Here at a secret location in rural Alabama,

0:02:11 > 0:02:15Klansman and their families are gathering from across the Deep South.

0:02:16 > 0:02:18- White power. - White power!

0:02:19 > 0:02:21White power!

0:02:21 > 0:02:22CHILD IMPERSONATES MAN

0:02:25 > 0:02:30'They're here to discuss what they say are attacks on the white race.'

0:02:30 > 0:02:32Do you feel under attack in modern America?

0:02:32 > 0:02:34We are under attack.

0:02:34 > 0:02:36America was founded as a Christian nation

0:02:36 > 0:02:39and they're attacking our Christian values.

0:02:39 > 0:02:42So you believe you're in a racial war right now?

0:02:42 > 0:02:44- Yes.- Of course.

0:02:44 > 0:02:47Whites are unfortunately losing this war right now,

0:02:47 > 0:02:49but if whites will wake up and see what's going on,

0:02:49 > 0:02:51then the smallest brigade of the military

0:02:51 > 0:02:54could take the negroid population out on the weekends.

0:02:56 > 0:02:59Most, the majority of our people are in the military.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02You know, we all have our concealed weapons permits, you know.

0:03:02 > 0:03:04It'll be a great war across America

0:03:04 > 0:03:06and I will not call it a civil war cos it'll be anything but that,

0:03:06 > 0:03:08it'll be an uncivil war

0:03:08 > 0:03:11cos you'll see a bunch of Americans getting killed and blown up.

0:03:11 > 0:03:13We'll give you the true definition of a riot.

0:03:13 > 0:03:16- A big screen TV...- It'll be total war.- We'll fight a war for you.

0:03:16 > 0:03:19And it'll be a matter of time, we're going to take America back.

0:03:22 > 0:03:25James Moore is from Richmond, Virginia.

0:03:25 > 0:03:27He's the Klan chaplain or Imperial Klud.

0:03:28 > 0:03:32Is there a hierarchy or, you know, are there ranks? How does that work?

0:03:32 > 0:03:34Yeah, there's ranks, I mean we have, you know...

0:03:34 > 0:03:38Like an Exalted Cyclops would be the president.

0:03:38 > 0:03:40You know, the Klaliff is the vice president.

0:03:40 > 0:03:45The Klud, which is what I am, is the chaplain or the preacher

0:03:45 > 0:03:47and, you know, a clerk or teacher

0:03:47 > 0:03:50and so forth, we have recruiters, I mean, you know, everything.

0:03:50 > 0:03:52I mean, like I said, we're a fraternal organisation,

0:03:52 > 0:03:54that's about all the public,

0:03:54 > 0:03:57as far as public information I can give you right there.

0:03:57 > 0:04:00- How old are you, James? - I'm 24 years old.

0:04:00 > 0:04:03Are you quite young to be an Imperial Klud?

0:04:03 > 0:04:06Well, erm... You know, I am very young but, erm,

0:04:06 > 0:04:08you know, a lot of people have told me over the years that

0:04:08 > 0:04:11they like what I have to say and they've told me I'm very sharp.

0:04:11 > 0:04:13They think I'm very intelligent and, you know,

0:04:13 > 0:04:17I need to do something, I need to be somewhere.

0:04:17 > 0:04:20When I was growing up, I got in trouble with the law, you know.

0:04:20 > 0:04:23When I got in the Klan, I haven't been in trouble ever since.

0:04:23 > 0:04:25It's definitely been positive for me.

0:04:29 > 0:04:32And this is the little fella that's going to take my place

0:04:32 > 0:04:34in about another 20 years.

0:04:34 > 0:04:35White power.

0:04:38 > 0:04:41- White power. - White power.

0:04:45 > 0:04:47- That was your little boy dressed up? - Yeah.

0:04:47 > 0:04:49Why do you dress your little boy up in Klan clothes?

0:04:49 > 0:04:51I just, I just want my kid to know

0:04:51 > 0:04:53that it's OK to be proud of who he is and, er,

0:04:53 > 0:04:55if being proud of his heritage makes him a racist,

0:04:55 > 0:04:58well...I'll teach him to be racist, you know.

0:04:58 > 0:05:02But by dressing him up like that, aren't you encouraging people to...

0:05:02 > 0:05:04- I mean... - ..give him the kind of abuse

0:05:04 > 0:05:08which is going to eventually lead to him having these feelings about race?

0:05:09 > 0:05:12Yeah, I guess that I'm... I'm... I'm perpetuating that soup

0:05:12 > 0:05:16that he needs to go through to, to become who he needs to be in life.

0:05:17 > 0:05:18Are you a white supremacist?

0:05:18 > 0:05:20Yeah, absolutely.

0:05:20 > 0:05:21By the term "white supremacist",

0:05:21 > 0:05:24do you mean do I think that the whites are supreme?

0:05:24 > 0:05:28Er... I believe so, yeah. I believe we're God's chosen people.

0:05:28 > 0:05:30Despite the Klan's infamous reputation,

0:05:30 > 0:05:34there seems to be no shortage of new recruits.

0:05:34 > 0:05:36I saw half a dozen people being led away

0:05:36 > 0:05:38for secret initiation ceremonies.

0:05:38 > 0:05:40Can I just ask what the book is?

0:05:40 > 0:05:42The Kloran?

0:05:42 > 0:05:45Well, there's a lot of things in here I can't tell you.

0:05:45 > 0:05:48- HE LAUGHS - But this is the book that we go by.

0:05:48 > 0:05:52It's part of the original Klan doctrine for new members

0:05:52 > 0:05:55that are coming in, er, to be naturalised

0:05:55 > 0:05:57or initiated into the Klan.

0:05:57 > 0:06:01- So it sounds like the Klan's growing? - Yes, it is, quite a bit.

0:06:01 > 0:06:03You, you're a recruiter as well?

0:06:03 > 0:06:05Er, yes. I love it.

0:06:05 > 0:06:06Why?

0:06:06 > 0:06:09Er... It's just, well, you get to talk to interesting people.

0:06:09 > 0:06:11You know, I love coming here to the rallies, you know,

0:06:11 > 0:06:13being with my brothers and sisters.

0:06:13 > 0:06:17- Let me see, how can I put this? - Well, it'd be like a church.

0:06:17 > 0:06:18It's like a church group.

0:06:24 > 0:06:27The Klan say they're a fiercely Christian society

0:06:27 > 0:06:28and tonight, they're holding

0:06:28 > 0:06:31one of their most important religious rituals...

0:06:32 > 0:06:34..a triple cross lighting...

0:06:36 > 0:06:39..as Imperial Klud, theology student James,

0:06:39 > 0:06:40leads the ceremony.

0:06:42 > 0:06:45They can try to shut down the Klan all they want.

0:06:45 > 0:06:50They've been trying to do it since 1865 when the Klan first popped up,

0:06:50 > 0:06:54but 150 years later, we're still here.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56Cos I work for Jesus Christ.

0:06:56 > 0:06:59We are his battle axes and weapons of war.

0:06:59 > 0:07:01With us, he will destroy the nations.

0:07:02 > 0:07:05But I'm going to get off here and get on with this cross lighting.

0:07:05 > 0:07:07For those of you who ain't never seen one,

0:07:07 > 0:07:09it's going to be the prettiest sight you've ever seen

0:07:09 > 0:07:12and you'll never forget it as long as you're alive.

0:07:12 > 0:07:16Go get a torch and go to the end of the line.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18What's the significance of the cross lighting?

0:07:18 > 0:07:22Well, we in the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan light the cross

0:07:22 > 0:07:25to signify that Christ is the light of the world

0:07:25 > 0:07:27and out of the darkness came his light.

0:07:34 > 0:07:36Hold that, hold that torch.

0:07:36 > 0:07:37Hold that torch.

0:07:38 > 0:07:40Klan, halt.

0:07:42 > 0:07:45To the Klan, this is a religious ritual,

0:07:45 > 0:07:49but to many, a cross lighting is a symbol of racist terror.

0:07:49 > 0:07:50- We ready? - ALL:- Ready!

0:07:52 > 0:07:55- For the Klan. - ALL:- For the Klan!

0:07:55 > 0:07:57Back up, back up.

0:08:01 > 0:08:04In the fiery cross, our glory.

0:08:05 > 0:08:07Shout white power!

0:08:07 > 0:08:08- ALL:- White power!

0:08:13 > 0:08:16- WOMAN:- Can we get a group photo?

0:08:19 > 0:08:23- That's it. - Yeah, thank you.

0:08:23 > 0:08:26All right, yeah, thank you. I hope everybody had a good time.

0:08:28 > 0:08:30I think everything turned out just great, you know.

0:08:30 > 0:08:34We recruited 20 new members sworn into the Klan today.

0:08:34 > 0:08:37The Klan's never going to die. 150 years later we're still here.

0:08:37 > 0:08:39We're not going anywhere. They cannot stop us.

0:08:41 > 0:08:45According to the Klan, there's a revival taking place.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48Cross lightings like these are becoming more common.

0:08:48 > 0:08:51One, two, three.

0:08:51 > 0:08:54But it's a long time since the Klan were at their most powerful

0:08:54 > 0:08:56and claimed to run America.

0:09:06 > 0:09:08The Ku Klux Klan was formed 150 years ago

0:09:08 > 0:09:10after the American Civil War

0:09:10 > 0:09:14as a vigilante group aiming to restore white supremacy to the South.

0:09:16 > 0:09:19At its peak, it claimed to have four million members,

0:09:19 > 0:09:21including four US presidents...

0:09:23 > 0:09:26..and gained a reputation for lynching black people.

0:09:30 > 0:09:34In the '60s, Klansmen fought against the Civil Rights Movement

0:09:34 > 0:09:37with a campaign of bombing and murder.

0:09:37 > 0:09:39WOMAN SOBBING

0:09:45 > 0:09:48Today, some estimate Klan membership has dropped

0:09:48 > 0:09:49to as low as a few thousand.

0:09:50 > 0:09:55And dozens of competing chapters are in conflict with each other.

0:09:55 > 0:09:58This is the Loyal White Knights Klavern building.

0:09:58 > 0:10:00James' Klan, the Loyal White Knights,

0:10:00 > 0:10:02claim to be the largest of these chapters.

0:10:04 > 0:10:07They're based here in Yanceyville, North Carolina.

0:10:08 > 0:10:10This is the wall of wizards.

0:10:10 > 0:10:13It's kind of like the Klan bloodline to us.

0:10:16 > 0:10:19The Imperial Kommander, Amanda Lee, agreed to meet me.

0:10:22 > 0:10:26Amanda joined the Klan 18 years ago on her 16th birthday.

0:10:26 > 0:10:31I wanted to join because I'd seen everything that they were about,

0:10:31 > 0:10:33what they talked about at the rallies.

0:10:33 > 0:10:36It was about family and about race

0:10:36 > 0:10:39and they felt the same way I felt, you know.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42And I thought, hey, you know, this is where I belong

0:10:42 > 0:10:44and that's what I did.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47If people say, "Well, if you could choose not to be a racist

0:10:47 > 0:10:49"and go back and change time, would you do it?"

0:10:49 > 0:10:53No, never. I would never in a million dollars go back

0:10:53 > 0:10:55and want to change that time and say, hey,

0:10:55 > 0:10:58I would delete being in the Klan because I wouldn't, truthfully.

0:10:58 > 0:11:02- Do you consider yourself a racist? - No.- No.- I don't.

0:11:02 > 0:11:03People might look at me that way

0:11:03 > 0:11:06and think, oh, she's in the Klan,

0:11:06 > 0:11:08they're burning crosses.

0:11:08 > 0:11:10No, we're lighting crosses for the light of the world

0:11:10 > 0:11:12and, you know, for Jesus and the Klan.

0:11:12 > 0:11:14SHE CHUCKLES

0:11:14 > 0:11:18Amanda recently bought this property and acres of surrounding land.

0:11:19 > 0:11:22I consider it really a home for the Klan

0:11:22 > 0:11:26and it's going to be hopefully passed down through our boys

0:11:26 > 0:11:29and then when we have grandkids and they get older,

0:11:29 > 0:11:33then they'll continue with the, you know, traditions

0:11:33 > 0:11:35that we're carrying here.

0:11:35 > 0:11:39So you think you're setting up a Klan home for many generations?

0:11:39 > 0:11:41This is basically going to be

0:11:41 > 0:11:45a 110% permanent home for the Klan for ever.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50Amanda claims to have Klansmen in every state

0:11:50 > 0:11:53and she dreams of unifying them here in North Carolina.

0:11:55 > 0:12:00My goal is all of our Northern, um, LWK - Loyal White Knights -

0:12:00 > 0:12:03like, from New York and New Hampshire and all that...

0:12:03 > 0:12:08They hate it there anyway and, er, they want to come down here

0:12:08 > 0:12:10so we're going to try to relocate them

0:12:10 > 0:12:13in this little area of Yanceyville.

0:12:13 > 0:12:17So hopefully, um, we'll be moving more white population here

0:12:17 > 0:12:21and be moving more blacks to the city, you know, like Danville area.

0:12:21 > 0:12:23So that's what I'm going to do.

0:12:23 > 0:12:24Why?

0:12:25 > 0:12:29Well, I tell you what, the police would be thankful.

0:12:29 > 0:12:31Um, the crime rate would drop down tremendously

0:12:31 > 0:12:35and, er, there'd be a little less drugs on the streets

0:12:35 > 0:12:36if we did it, so...

0:12:36 > 0:12:38Because you think that black people are responsible

0:12:38 > 0:12:40for crime and selling drugs?

0:12:40 > 0:12:41I... I know they are.

0:12:45 > 0:12:47Amanda is married and has two kids.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49Let's go in where it's cool.

0:12:50 > 0:12:52She's the main breadwinner

0:12:52 > 0:12:55and works from home as a customer service rep...

0:12:55 > 0:12:59Thank you for calling. My name is Amanda. How may I assist you today?

0:12:59 > 0:13:00OK.

0:13:02 > 0:13:05..all while running the Loyal White Knights.

0:13:05 > 0:13:11Here is a Klan robe I cut out myself and I then sewed it together.

0:13:11 > 0:13:16I have 50, er, robe demands for August plus another 30 coming.

0:13:17 > 0:13:21I guess you would say this is the scariest part about the Klan.

0:13:21 > 0:13:23It doesn't scare me. I used to take our kids,

0:13:23 > 0:13:28um, to the rallies and they actually loved it.

0:13:28 > 0:13:30They would play peek-a-boo with their hoods

0:13:30 > 0:13:32and my kids would just giggle.

0:13:36 > 0:13:39Tonight, Amanda is planning a Knight Ride.

0:13:41 > 0:13:46150 years ago, Klansmen in robes would patrol the streets on horseback

0:13:46 > 0:13:48often intimidating black families.

0:13:50 > 0:13:54These days, President Obama is the target of their hate.

0:13:54 > 0:13:58Getting ready to do a massive, er, literature drop.

0:13:58 > 0:14:04And we have a nice goodbye, um, letter to Obama.

0:14:05 > 0:14:09Basically, you know, he's trying to wipe out the white race.

0:14:09 > 0:14:11Amanda, how do you know James?

0:14:12 > 0:14:14We've known each other for so long.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17We've been around each other. He's like our other son.

0:14:18 > 0:14:22Yeah, I've known Miss Amanda here since I was 17 years old

0:14:22 > 0:14:24and, you know, she's been like, um, you know,

0:14:24 > 0:14:26they've been like second family to me, you know, they've, er,

0:14:26 > 0:14:29helped me out more times than I can count

0:14:29 > 0:14:32on my hands and feet, you know.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34Like what kind of ways would they help you out?

0:14:34 > 0:14:35They've helped me out financially.

0:14:35 > 0:14:37They've helped me put food on the table.

0:14:37 > 0:14:39There was a time where, erm, my unemployment ran out

0:14:39 > 0:14:42where I lost my job and I lost just about everything I had

0:14:42 > 0:14:44and, you know, they were there to help me.

0:14:46 > 0:14:49So how many fliers have you got?

0:14:49 > 0:14:50Erm, we have 3,000.

0:14:52 > 0:14:53I'm actually thinking of, er,

0:14:53 > 0:14:56mailing Obama an official Klan certificate

0:14:56 > 0:14:58cos Obama's been the best recruiter we've ever had,

0:14:58 > 0:15:01so we figure we'd make that half-breed nigger

0:15:01 > 0:15:03an honorary member of the Klan.

0:15:03 > 0:15:05'Their flyer has a racist poem

0:15:05 > 0:15:09'about the Klan's favourite hate figure, President Obama.'

0:15:09 > 0:15:10Tell me about this leaflet.

0:15:10 > 0:15:12Can you read it to me?

0:15:13 > 0:15:15"Goodbye, Obama.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17"Things at the White House looking mighty curious.

0:15:17 > 0:15:20"Niggers running everything, white people furious.

0:15:20 > 0:15:22"Niggers in the sitting room making all the talk.

0:15:22 > 0:15:24- "Niggers in the ballroom..." - HE LAUGHS

0:15:24 > 0:15:26Excuse me, I'm sorry. This is hilarious.

0:15:26 > 0:15:29"..doing the moon walk. "Niggers on the front porch..."

0:15:29 > 0:15:31- HE LAUGHS - Excuse me. "Niggers on the lawn.

0:15:31 > 0:15:34"That nigger Obama is finally going to be gone."

0:15:36 > 0:15:40In Britain, inciting racial hatred carries a possible sentence

0:15:40 > 0:15:42of seven years in prison.

0:15:42 > 0:15:46Here in the US, the First Amendment guarantees free speech,

0:15:46 > 0:15:48even for blatant racism.

0:15:51 > 0:15:53James, I couldn't help but notice

0:15:53 > 0:15:56- that there's a picture of Hitler up there.- There sure is.

0:15:56 > 0:15:58Adolf Hitler, he was, er, one of the smartest men,

0:15:58 > 0:16:01um, there ever was, you know, er...

0:16:01 > 0:16:03You know, the so-called concentration camps like Auschwitz

0:16:03 > 0:16:08and, you know, er, so forth, um... They say they were death camps.

0:16:08 > 0:16:10You know, but, um, I mean, in these death camps,

0:16:10 > 0:16:13they gave the so-called, er, people that were being killed,

0:16:13 > 0:16:16um, cigarettes, there was coffee, there was a movie theatre,

0:16:16 > 0:16:18a library, even a swimming pool in Auschwitz.

0:16:18 > 0:16:21And if you're going to sit there and kill all these people,

0:16:21 > 0:16:23how come all these things would be in there?

0:16:23 > 0:16:25It's more like a... Like a summer camp, you know.

0:16:25 > 0:16:27What... What Auschwitz was is they were actually

0:16:27 > 0:16:29manufacturing goods for the war.

0:16:29 > 0:16:33Sorry, you're telling me Auschwitz was like a summer camp?

0:16:33 > 0:16:36Well, they had a swimming pool and a movie theatre and everything else.

0:16:36 > 0:16:38You know, you don't see in any kind of prisons today

0:16:38 > 0:16:41a swimming pool being in the middle of the, um, pod or a prison hall.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44So what do you think the Jews were doing at Auschwitz?

0:16:44 > 0:16:46Swimming and, um, working. Because they didn't wanna do any work

0:16:46 > 0:16:49and what Hitler was trying to do was he was trying to teach them

0:16:49 > 0:16:51to, er, work, trying to rehabilitate them if you will.

0:16:51 > 0:16:54- Where did you hear this? Where...? Who told you?- It's all history.

0:16:54 > 0:16:56- It's all history.- But...

0:16:56 > 0:16:59But whose history are you reading where you think it's a summer camp?

0:17:06 > 0:17:09More than a million prisoners died at Auschwitz,

0:17:09 > 0:17:12the vast majority of them were Jewish.

0:17:18 > 0:17:22For this Knight Ride, Amanda is targeting a nearby town

0:17:22 > 0:17:24including its black neighbourhood.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27- AMANDA:- Looks like Santa.

0:17:32 > 0:17:34What kind of music do you guys listen to?

0:17:34 > 0:17:36White power music.

0:17:36 > 0:17:37THRASH CHORD

0:17:37 > 0:17:40# You're gonna fucking die big time. #

0:17:41 > 0:17:45HEAVY METAL MUSIC, INCOHERENT LYRICS

0:17:49 > 0:17:51You get every other house. You go.

0:17:52 > 0:17:54Well, shit.

0:18:02 > 0:18:05It was a black guy standing in his driveway

0:18:05 > 0:18:07and I just threw one right at his feet.

0:18:07 > 0:18:09SHE LAUGHS

0:18:13 > 0:18:16Is there a... A risk in doing this?

0:18:16 > 0:18:19Oh, it's actually protected under the First Amendment right

0:18:19 > 0:18:20as a political ballot.

0:18:20 > 0:18:23It's no different than somebody dropping, er, pizza fliers

0:18:23 > 0:18:26or lawn care fliers. There's nothing they can do about it.

0:18:26 > 0:18:29- But, but this is a racist leaflet that...- It's...

0:18:29 > 0:18:31- ..most people would find offensive. - It's freedom of speech.

0:18:31 > 0:18:33And some people like it, some don't.

0:18:33 > 0:18:35I don't like it when people put out fliers

0:18:35 > 0:18:37supporting the Communist Party or the Black Panthers,

0:18:37 > 0:18:41but there's nothing I can do about it, because it's freedom of speech.

0:18:43 > 0:18:45Can you turn that light off a little bit?

0:18:45 > 0:18:47Let's get out of this area before...

0:18:50 > 0:18:52But what were you afraid of?

0:18:52 > 0:18:55- Not afraid of nothing. - So then why are we leaving the area?

0:18:55 > 0:18:57All the cops were notified apparently.

0:18:57 > 0:18:59We don't want, you know,

0:18:59 > 0:19:01the police knowing this is the car that did the Knight Ride.

0:19:01 > 0:19:03We don't want people going to prison.

0:19:03 > 0:19:05We need our brothers and our sisters, you know,

0:19:05 > 0:19:08our soldiers of Christ out there on the street.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17I'd actually take that part out.

0:19:19 > 0:19:20White power.

0:19:20 > 0:19:23- You can keep that part, just give you a little thumbs up.- OK...

0:19:23 > 0:19:25From the outside looking in,

0:19:25 > 0:19:28it's difficult to understand the appeal of an organisation

0:19:28 > 0:19:30that seems to revel in racism.

0:19:35 > 0:19:37But the Klan have always claimed

0:19:37 > 0:19:40to protect the values of white Christian Americans.

0:19:42 > 0:19:43And here in the South,

0:19:43 > 0:19:48some feel their way of life has been under attack since the Civil War

0:19:48 > 0:19:52when free states from the North battled slave states in the South.

0:19:54 > 0:19:58Back then, James' ancestors fought on the Confederate side

0:19:58 > 0:20:01in the slave state of Virginia.

0:20:01 > 0:20:06I like to say that I hope and pray that America or any European nation

0:20:06 > 0:20:10around the world never has to have another war where it takes a uniform

0:20:10 > 0:20:14to identify the enemy because the colour of our skin is the same.

0:20:14 > 0:20:15Presumably you would...

0:20:15 > 0:20:19you do agree that slavery in itself was right to be abolished?

0:20:19 > 0:20:21Of course, you know, I don't... I don't...

0:20:21 > 0:20:23You know, humans shouldn't be property of anybody,

0:20:23 > 0:20:26I don't believe in any forms of slavery whatsoever,

0:20:26 > 0:20:28considering that whites were slaves, you know.

0:20:28 > 0:20:31Here in America, we're all slaves today.

0:20:33 > 0:20:37The Confederate States of the South lost the Civil War,

0:20:37 > 0:20:42slavery was abolished and four million slaves were freed.

0:20:42 > 0:20:46But 150 years later, many parts of American society

0:20:46 > 0:20:49are still divided along racial lines.

0:20:49 > 0:20:53So, was your school mostly white or mostly black?

0:20:53 > 0:20:55I'd say about 85% black.

0:20:55 > 0:20:58- What was it like?- It was rough.

0:20:58 > 0:21:00My first day of high school, I walked in the cafeteria,

0:21:00 > 0:21:03I got my tray out of the lunch line, of food, I look over here,

0:21:03 > 0:21:06this table's black, this is the whole black side

0:21:06 > 0:21:08and this table over here on the other wall

0:21:08 > 0:21:09is where all the white kids sit.

0:21:09 > 0:21:11And I found out very quickly that,

0:21:11 > 0:21:14er, that might be the table I'd be best sitting at.

0:21:14 > 0:21:17They called me, you know, names, you know, like Cracker,

0:21:17 > 0:21:20you know, Honky, "Hey, white boy," they didn't call me...

0:21:20 > 0:21:23They didn't say, "Hey, James," they always said, "Hey, white boy."

0:21:23 > 0:21:26And did you report that to the authorities at the school?

0:21:26 > 0:21:29I sure did, I reported it to the principal and many of the faculty

0:21:29 > 0:21:31and staff and even the teachers

0:21:31 > 0:21:34and they basically didn't want to do anything about this

0:21:34 > 0:21:37because see here in America, whenever a white person, you know,

0:21:37 > 0:21:41like a cop or a teacher or anything, you know, disciplines a black person

0:21:41 > 0:21:43it's automatically labelled as racist.

0:21:47 > 0:21:50Most people think that, you know, hate is taught to somebody,

0:21:50 > 0:21:53you know, this young man, James Moore, he's in the Klan

0:21:53 > 0:21:56probably because his parents indoctrinated him to be in the Klan.

0:21:56 > 0:21:59But nobody ever forced any kind of views

0:21:59 > 0:22:01on, you know, race or the Klan or anything on me.

0:22:01 > 0:22:04Going to high school and my surroundings, you know,

0:22:04 > 0:22:06basically made me racially aware.

0:22:06 > 0:22:09I found out real quick that I'm a white boy, if you will.

0:22:11 > 0:22:14I started looking through the internet, you know, close to a year

0:22:14 > 0:22:17I sat there studying, trying to find information, you know.

0:22:17 > 0:22:20And I stumbled across the Loyal White Knights' website,

0:22:20 > 0:22:22the KKK Knights' website and I just,

0:22:22 > 0:22:24I liked everything the Klan stood for.

0:22:24 > 0:22:27James isn't the only young, white American

0:22:27 > 0:22:29who sees the appeal of the Klan.

0:22:33 > 0:22:36New applicants to the Loyal White Knights are dealt with by Amanda.

0:22:36 > 0:22:41This is just what we've got in a month alone from different states -

0:22:41 > 0:22:44West Virginia, Virginia, Ohio...

0:22:44 > 0:22:46That's the kind of application form, is it?

0:22:46 > 0:22:50- Yeah.- So, do they have to pass a questionnaire,

0:22:50 > 0:22:52do they have to prove what their race is?

0:22:52 > 0:22:55No, no, no, it's nothing like that, like the general questions,

0:22:55 > 0:22:57like do you have a drug history?

0:22:57 > 0:22:58Are you on drugs now?

0:22:58 > 0:23:01Are you... Have you got a record?

0:23:01 > 0:23:03If you do have a record, what type of record?

0:23:03 > 0:23:05Are you in the government?

0:23:05 > 0:23:06If you're a probation officer,

0:23:06 > 0:23:08do you work for the sheriff's department?

0:23:08 > 0:23:10Are you a lawyer?

0:23:10 > 0:23:13- You know, we want to know these type of things.- Why?

0:23:13 > 0:23:17Well, um, we surely don't want to invite the FBI into our Klan.

0:23:17 > 0:23:20PHONE RINGS

0:23:20 > 0:23:23So, this is the Klan hotline, we leave this unplugged all day long

0:23:23 > 0:23:26because this is all we will hear - one second, ring.

0:23:26 > 0:23:30They're sent off to voicemail and then we have a message.

0:23:30 > 0:23:33'To join the Klan, leave a name and number.

0:23:33 > 0:23:35'We're very excited and we'll get back to you.

0:23:35 > 0:23:38'Record your message at the tone...'

0:23:39 > 0:23:42So, every time it makes that noise, that's someone leaving a message?

0:23:42 > 0:23:45- Wanting to join. - You've just plugged it in

0:23:45 > 0:23:47and it rang twice in the space of 30 seconds.

0:23:47 > 0:23:49- PHONE RINGS - Right.

0:23:49 > 0:23:53From June 2nd to the 1st,

0:23:53 > 0:24:00there's 25 names on each page of 452 pages of contacts.

0:24:00 > 0:24:03So, how... So, what does that mean?

0:24:03 > 0:24:06So 11,300 calls in 30 days.

0:24:08 > 0:24:12'It's impossible to say how many of these calls were from protesters

0:24:12 > 0:24:15'and how many were genuine enquiries,

0:24:15 > 0:24:17'but Amanda claims the surge in calls

0:24:17 > 0:24:21'is directly related to increasing racial tension in America.'

0:24:26 > 0:24:29In the last 18 months, allegations of police brutality

0:24:29 > 0:24:34towards the black community have resulted in protests across America,

0:24:34 > 0:24:36including violent clashes and rioting.

0:24:36 > 0:24:41- CROWD CHANTS:- Fuck you! Fuck you!

0:24:41 > 0:24:45A few weeks before I met Amanda, there had been protests

0:24:45 > 0:24:49in nearby Baltimore, with businesses looted and cars set ablaze.

0:24:52 > 0:24:58When the black African Americans in Baltimore started rioting

0:24:58 > 0:25:01and tearing up the city over the cops shooting them,

0:25:01 > 0:25:03I know we got over 5,000 calls,

0:25:03 > 0:25:07begging us to come out there and stand with them with guns

0:25:07 > 0:25:09and to help protect their businesses and homes.

0:25:10 > 0:25:12It's Obama's fault

0:25:12 > 0:25:15and it's the actions of the black community is why we're rising.

0:25:18 > 0:25:20Anti-racism groups claim

0:25:20 > 0:25:24there are only around 3,000 - 5,000 members of the KKK.

0:25:24 > 0:25:26James says there's many more.

0:25:28 > 0:25:33Though he refused to tell me just how many, he did introduce me to one.

0:25:33 > 0:25:35Was there a moment that made you think,

0:25:35 > 0:25:38"Hey, I want to join the Ku Klux Klan?"

0:25:38 > 0:25:40I've known about them for years and wanted to

0:25:40 > 0:25:46make a stand for my white race that I am very proud of.

0:25:46 > 0:25:48And, Bubba, are you employed at the moment?

0:25:48 > 0:25:52At the moment, no. I've been a roofer for 20-something years

0:25:52 > 0:25:54and I lost my job because of Mexicans.

0:25:56 > 0:25:59Do you think, if the Klan were in control,

0:25:59 > 0:26:01what state do you think the country would be in?

0:26:01 > 0:26:04I think it'd be in a whole lot better place. I mean, there's...

0:26:04 > 0:26:06there's plenty of us out here

0:26:06 > 0:26:10and there's plenty of people that believe the same thing we do.

0:26:10 > 0:26:13What kind of things do you do, as Klan members?

0:26:13 > 0:26:16Er, just spreading the word about our heritage

0:26:16 > 0:26:19and our white race and how proud we are of it.

0:26:19 > 0:26:23Some people might argue, you know, it's lonely white guys

0:26:23 > 0:26:25getting together cos they've got no-one else.

0:26:25 > 0:26:26No, it wasn't like that for me.

0:26:26 > 0:26:29That's what they want you to think, that we're a bunch of

0:26:29 > 0:26:32just white trash, you know, inbred hillbilly freaks.

0:26:32 > 0:26:35That's a false...pretence of what people,

0:26:35 > 0:26:37everybody knows of when it comes to media

0:26:37 > 0:26:41and the way they want to portray it and it's really not the way it is.

0:26:41 > 0:26:44Sometimes we just get together and hang out.

0:26:44 > 0:26:47Yeah, just people hanging out just like everybody else does.

0:26:47 > 0:26:49It's not always business, you know?

0:26:52 > 0:26:55These, these jungle bunnies, they just don't understand

0:26:55 > 0:26:57- the concept of what-what law and order is, you know, you know.- Right.

0:26:57 > 0:27:00They don't understand what private property is.

0:27:00 > 0:27:02They're animals, they're savages

0:27:02 > 0:27:04They're not civilised people.

0:27:05 > 0:27:10When I hear you using all the racial slurs, I just don't get it. Why?

0:27:10 > 0:27:13You know, those are words that upset people and incite hatred.

0:27:13 > 0:27:16Well, it's kind of upsetting when we get called cracker, honky,

0:27:16 > 0:27:20pinky, you know, whatever these, er, other races like to call us.

0:27:20 > 0:27:23You know, if you can call me a cracker, I can call you a nigger.

0:27:23 > 0:27:26You are racially abused so why...

0:27:26 > 0:27:30How does it help the situation by racially abusing other people?

0:27:30 > 0:27:32Aren't you just making it worse?

0:27:32 > 0:27:34I wouldn't say so, I'm actually combating.

0:27:34 > 0:27:37Like I said, you know, um, we're not offensive, we're defensive

0:27:37 > 0:27:40and, you know, we don't have a future here in America, you know,

0:27:40 > 0:27:43they're trying to wipe us out, is what they're trying to do.

0:27:43 > 0:27:46That might sound paranoid but James believes it

0:27:46 > 0:27:49and like many of the Klansmen I met, he's armed.

0:27:52 > 0:27:55This is a 1961 nine-shot .22 revolver.

0:27:55 > 0:27:58This is actually... I shouldn't be, er, carrying this around.

0:27:58 > 0:28:02Some people might be scared that Klan members are armed.

0:28:02 > 0:28:05I'm scared that the Bloods and Crips are armed.

0:28:05 > 0:28:08I'm scared that the Federal Government is armed.

0:28:10 > 0:28:15There are 300 million privately-owned firearms in the United States.

0:28:15 > 0:28:16What have you got here, Bubba?

0:28:16 > 0:28:19Judge, 410, .45.

0:28:23 > 0:28:26This has got shotgun shells loaded up in it

0:28:26 > 0:28:30and if anything was to ever go get down, there are three .45 long colts

0:28:30 > 0:28:34in it that will definitely put a big hole in somebody, if need be.

0:28:34 > 0:28:36It packs one heck of a punch.

0:28:37 > 0:28:42James is convinced America is on the brink of an all-out race war.

0:28:42 > 0:28:43It's going to be a total war,

0:28:43 > 0:28:46it's going to be the bloodiest war this country's ever seen.

0:28:46 > 0:28:49I don't mean just some kind of war and, you know,

0:28:49 > 0:28:52it's everything goes. It's going to be total war.

0:28:55 > 0:28:57Having spent time with James and Amanda,

0:28:57 > 0:29:01I was never sure how seriously to take their talk of race war...

0:29:01 > 0:29:03White power.

0:29:05 > 0:29:08..but then, something happened which changed everything.

0:29:12 > 0:29:15- POLICE RADIO:- Advising of an active shooter, multiple people down.

0:29:15 > 0:29:20The Klan say they're not violent but some white supremacists are.

0:29:20 > 0:29:22Two hours after I left James,

0:29:22 > 0:29:25news broke of a racially-motivated massacre.

0:29:25 > 0:29:30At 9:05 this evening, we received a call of a, er, a shooting

0:29:30 > 0:29:34that had occurred at the church here on Calhoun Street

0:29:34 > 0:29:39and we have nine deceased individuals inside of the church.

0:29:39 > 0:29:40It was a Caucasian, white man

0:29:40 > 0:29:43walked into an African American church and opened fire

0:29:43 > 0:29:45while people were praying, having Bible study.

0:29:45 > 0:29:46That's-that's unacceptable.

0:29:46 > 0:29:50- NEWSREADER:- 21-year-old Dylann Roof arrested for killing nine people

0:29:50 > 0:29:54during a prayer service at the Emanuel Church in Charleston.

0:29:54 > 0:29:57The massacre is being investigated as a hate crime.

0:29:57 > 0:30:00It was a race thing because he told me that the black people

0:30:00 > 0:30:04was taking over the country and he wanted it to be segregation.

0:30:04 > 0:30:08Although Dylann Roof had no known links to the Ku Klux Klan,

0:30:08 > 0:30:10like them, he believed he was fighting a race war.

0:30:13 > 0:30:14So I headed to Charleston to see

0:30:14 > 0:30:17the impact of the white supremacist attack.

0:30:21 > 0:30:25INDISTINCT VOICES AND SINGING

0:30:33 > 0:30:36A block away from the church where the massacre happened,

0:30:36 > 0:30:39I met a group of people who'd gathered to condemn the shooting.

0:30:39 > 0:30:42Understand that when you look at these men and these women,

0:30:42 > 0:30:44these black men and these black women,

0:30:44 > 0:30:46yes, we look militant because we are.

0:30:46 > 0:30:48We are. We have to protect our women,

0:30:48 > 0:30:52- we have to protect our children and we will do so.- Right.

0:30:52 > 0:30:54We will do so by any means necessary.

0:30:56 > 0:30:59Brothers Ricardo and Anthony are from Charleston.

0:30:59 > 0:31:02They aren't affiliated to any activist groups

0:31:02 > 0:31:04but said they just needed to protest.

0:31:04 > 0:31:07Do you feel like white supremacists have too much power in this

0:31:07 > 0:31:08- part of the world?- Hell, yeah.

0:31:08 > 0:31:11Fuck white supremacists, fuck it, that's what...

0:31:11 > 0:31:12Fuck it.

0:31:12 > 0:31:15We... Living here in the South our whole lives, we've been...

0:31:15 > 0:31:20We've been subject to all police brutality, racism,

0:31:20 > 0:31:22all type of shit and all we're trying to do is live our lives.

0:31:22 > 0:31:25If we can't live our lives peacefully, we're going to either

0:31:25 > 0:31:27force it or it's going to be given to us cos there's-there's...

0:31:27 > 0:31:31There's really nothing else we can do but fight.

0:31:31 > 0:31:32That's protected by free speech.

0:31:32 > 0:31:36Cops try to stop a protester from burning the stars and stripes.

0:31:36 > 0:31:40- It's protected free speech, it's protected free speech.- No, sir.

0:31:40 > 0:31:42- That is my flag.- OK.

0:31:42 > 0:31:45You understand what I'm saying? You cannot open burn...

0:31:45 > 0:31:47- Please stop for what?- Whose is it?

0:31:47 > 0:31:49Anthony is at the front of the protest.

0:31:49 > 0:31:52Whose flag is it? Whose flag is it?

0:31:52 > 0:31:55Whose flag is it? Don't touch me, do not fucking... Do not touch me.

0:31:55 > 0:31:59- Do not step on my shoe. - Sir, I believe you saw somebody...

0:31:59 > 0:32:01You're not going to get this flag back, there you go, there you go,

0:32:01 > 0:32:06- there you go, there you go. - It's not yours to take.

0:32:06 > 0:32:09This is a message to the American government

0:32:09 > 0:32:12when their terrorists attacks our American State.

0:32:12 > 0:32:13This is toilet paper.

0:32:13 > 0:32:17We are under a terrorist attack. Come protect us,

0:32:17 > 0:32:20- we are under a terrorist siege. - Let it burn.- Burn it.

0:32:20 > 0:32:21ALL: BURN!

0:32:21 > 0:32:25We, as American citizens, might have to think about what

0:32:25 > 0:32:29country we live in and rise up and say, "No more."

0:32:29 > 0:32:31- ALL:- No more!

0:32:33 > 0:32:36Protesters flying the black liberation flag

0:32:36 > 0:32:40set off on what they're calling the End White Supremacy March.

0:32:40 > 0:32:44Black power, black power.

0:32:44 > 0:32:47Some of the protesters aren't just against white supremacy...

0:32:47 > 0:32:49Black power, black power.

0:32:49 > 0:32:52...they seem to not want white people on the march at all.

0:32:55 > 0:32:59This white woman wants to join them with her mixed-race child.

0:32:59 > 0:33:01You don't need to be here, that's what I said.

0:33:01 > 0:33:04PEOPLE SHOUTING "BLACK POWER"

0:33:06 > 0:33:09This ain't my organisation, I'm just supporting him, so if he wants...

0:33:09 > 0:33:12- This is an organisation? - I'm good, I'm out.

0:33:12 > 0:33:15I thought-I thought this was just the people...

0:33:15 > 0:33:18- Yeah, this is just the people's march.- This is the people today.

0:33:18 > 0:33:20This is just the people's march.

0:33:20 > 0:33:21Black people united.

0:33:21 > 0:33:22Black power, y'all.

0:33:23 > 0:33:27- This is my child. He does not need to fucking see that shit.- We know.

0:33:29 > 0:33:32She's told to leave the march just because she's white.

0:33:32 > 0:33:34Don't cry.

0:33:34 > 0:33:36I'm a journalist from the BBC.

0:33:36 > 0:33:39I wouldn't give a fuck where you from, cracker.

0:33:39 > 0:33:42I really wouldn't give a fuck where you from, you blue-eyed devil,

0:33:42 > 0:33:43I wouldn't give a fuck.

0:33:43 > 0:33:46But the woman who just got excluded, her daughter's mixed race

0:33:46 > 0:33:48and she wanted to come out in solidarity.

0:33:48 > 0:33:50You ain't heard what I said first time?

0:33:50 > 0:33:52I don't give a fuck, cracker.

0:33:52 > 0:33:55OK, keep it moving, you, your camera has to be down there.

0:33:55 > 0:33:57Thank you, keep it moving, cracker.

0:33:59 > 0:34:02"I'm with the BBC." I don't give a fuck.

0:34:04 > 0:34:05Black power!

0:34:06 > 0:34:11The massacre at the church has shaken Charleston's black community.

0:34:11 > 0:34:13Anthony and Ricardo are on edge.

0:34:13 > 0:34:15It's like, before this happened,

0:34:15 > 0:34:17I could walk past any white person...

0:34:17 > 0:34:19And speak.

0:34:19 > 0:34:21"Hey, what's going on, what's up? Oh, yeah, yada, yada, yada."

0:34:21 > 0:34:23Now, it's like...

0:34:23 > 0:34:25Because you don't know.

0:34:25 > 0:34:27The white supremacists, they're hidden in-in things...

0:34:27 > 0:34:30- Exactly, that's the crazy thing. - They're police officers...

0:34:30 > 0:34:32People in the judicial system and things like that.

0:34:32 > 0:34:34- You can't see them... - That's why they....

0:34:34 > 0:34:37..so that's what makes it so scary - you don't know.

0:34:37 > 0:34:40A lot of people will say, well, hang on, you've just got your first black

0:34:40 > 0:34:44president come in, isn't that a sign that racial tensions are decreasing?

0:34:44 > 0:34:47- Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. - Tell them why they're doing that.

0:34:47 > 0:34:49Let me tell you something.

0:34:49 > 0:34:53Barack Obama was a pacifier to make us shut the fuck up,

0:34:53 > 0:34:55just like in all history.

0:34:55 > 0:34:57Y'all want to sit on the front of the bus?

0:34:57 > 0:34:59We're going to give it to you. Shut the fuck up.

0:34:59 > 0:35:00Y'all want to sit in a restaurant?

0:35:00 > 0:35:02We're going to give it to you. Shut the fuck up.

0:35:02 > 0:35:04Y'all want a black president?

0:35:04 > 0:35:05We're going to give it to you. Shut the fuck up.

0:35:05 > 0:35:08That's what it is and guess what some black people do?

0:35:08 > 0:35:09They shut the fuck up.

0:35:09 > 0:35:12But no, don't shut the fuck up cos we're still not equal.

0:35:12 > 0:35:13We're still not equal.

0:35:13 > 0:35:16- Black power. - ALL:- Black power.

0:35:16 > 0:35:18- Black power. - ALL:- Black power.

0:35:24 > 0:35:26Most people in Charleston - black and white -

0:35:26 > 0:35:30are horrified at the church massacre

0:35:30 > 0:35:34but South Carolina also has a chapter of the Ku Klux Klan.

0:35:36 > 0:35:38'Amanda arranged for me to meet

0:35:38 > 0:35:40'the state leader of the Loyal White Knights -

0:35:40 > 0:35:43'Grand Dragon Charles Murphy.'

0:35:43 > 0:35:47What was your reaction to the shooting in Charleston?

0:35:47 > 0:35:52I was really thinking that we was going into a full race war.

0:35:52 > 0:35:55That's what the boy said he wanted.

0:35:55 > 0:35:59I certainly think within the next two or three years,

0:35:59 > 0:36:02it's where... The way that the black is pushing right now,

0:36:02 > 0:36:04that we're going into a full race war.

0:36:04 > 0:36:08There are going to be guns out on the streets and every white person

0:36:08 > 0:36:13in the State of South Carolina is armed. I can assure you of that.

0:36:13 > 0:36:17Er, I don't know about the black but I do know the white is armed

0:36:17 > 0:36:20and when they start the race war, there's going to be a lot of people

0:36:20 > 0:36:22that's going to lose their lives needlessly.

0:36:22 > 0:36:25Do you not think now, after what's happened, is a good time

0:36:25 > 0:36:29for your community to come together with the black community?

0:36:29 > 0:36:30Never.

0:36:30 > 0:36:32Why?

0:36:32 > 0:36:34Because God put the curse on the black.

0:36:34 > 0:36:37- I'm not going to try take it off them.- What curse?

0:36:37 > 0:36:40The curse - the black.

0:36:40 > 0:36:43One time, the black was white.

0:36:43 > 0:36:44Beginning of time...

0:36:46 > 0:36:48..the black was white and God says,

0:36:48 > 0:36:52"You will be sent to the Land Of Nod and there you will know your mate.

0:36:54 > 0:36:55What could have been his mate...

0:36:58 > 0:36:59..other than an animal?

0:37:01 > 0:37:02And what do you think a mate..?

0:37:02 > 0:37:05It had to be an ape or a gorilla.

0:37:07 > 0:37:11So, you're telling me that white people were sent through Africa

0:37:11 > 0:37:14where they mated with gorillas

0:37:14 > 0:37:16and that's where black people come from?

0:37:16 > 0:37:18That's got to be.

0:37:20 > 0:37:25A lot of people would find that really offensive, what you've said.

0:37:25 > 0:37:26I don't care.

0:37:27 > 0:37:29I believe in staying white

0:37:29 > 0:37:31and I believe the blacks staying black.

0:37:33 > 0:37:37She has white fur, see, she has white fur.

0:37:49 > 0:37:51Get your hand from behind my head.

0:37:51 > 0:37:54That's gay, you don't want the world to see that.

0:37:54 > 0:37:55Get the fuck out of here.

0:37:55 > 0:37:58What's wrong with gay? Race wars.

0:37:58 > 0:37:59Race? Gay is not a race.

0:37:59 > 0:38:02Well, homophobic wars.

0:38:02 > 0:38:04I'm not homophobic either, My aunt's gay and my sister.

0:38:04 > 0:38:06My granny's gay.

0:38:06 > 0:38:07Your granny is gay, I know.

0:38:07 > 0:38:09My granny's gay, it's cool.

0:38:11 > 0:38:15Like millions of young black American men, Anthony and Ricardo

0:38:15 > 0:38:19feel targeted by the police for the colour of their skin.

0:38:19 > 0:38:21Both have spent time in jail.

0:38:23 > 0:38:25I got something to say about the police.

0:38:25 > 0:38:27What, fuck 'em?

0:38:27 > 0:38:31I-I do say fuck the police a lot but this is my reason for it -

0:38:31 > 0:38:32fuck the police.

0:38:34 > 0:38:37We're sitting in a car minding our own business,

0:38:37 > 0:38:41no key in the ignition, no weed, no alcohol,

0:38:41 > 0:38:43having a heart-to-heart

0:38:43 > 0:38:47and you pull up on us 12 deep,

0:38:47 > 0:38:49canine units, all of that, not even

0:38:49 > 0:38:52a traffic stop, we're not moving.

0:38:52 > 0:38:54No-one called you, we're just sitting.

0:38:54 > 0:38:56Minding our own business.

0:38:56 > 0:38:59You pull up on us and you treat us like common criminals.

0:38:59 > 0:39:01You pull my brother out the car, you search him,

0:39:01 > 0:39:05you search my car, it's not right, you can't do that.

0:39:05 > 0:39:09"You're just black so get down before I shoot you."

0:39:09 > 0:39:11"You better get down or I'm going to say that you reached for your gun

0:39:11 > 0:39:14"and I'm going to shoot you anyway."

0:39:14 > 0:39:19- If we sit home and do nothing, we're going to get killed.- Mm-hmm.

0:39:19 > 0:39:20We're going to...

0:39:20 > 0:39:23- If we turn our backs, we're going to get shot in the back.- Mm-hmm.

0:39:23 > 0:39:27So, if white supremacists come down here with aggression,

0:39:27 > 0:39:29we have to-to fight.

0:39:31 > 0:39:33You know, I don't even really know what white supremacists

0:39:33 > 0:39:35actually even want.

0:39:35 > 0:39:39- They want white supremacy, They want...- Right.

0:39:39 > 0:39:40They want them to be superior.

0:39:40 > 0:39:42So what, they want us gone, they want us dead?

0:39:42 > 0:39:44- Like, what exactly is their agenda? - All of the above,

0:39:44 > 0:39:47- All of the above. They want us gone and...- They want this country

0:39:47 > 0:39:50- to themselves?- Yes, basically, which is impossible.

0:39:50 > 0:39:52This is an impossible agenda.

0:39:52 > 0:39:53Sound like Hitler to me.

0:39:53 > 0:39:55This is something... Exactly, this is an impossible agenda

0:39:55 > 0:39:57but they want this.

0:39:58 > 0:40:03The Charleston shooter said he wanted to start a race war

0:40:03 > 0:40:08but national debate focuses on him posing with a Confederate flag.

0:40:08 > 0:40:11THEY CHEER AND SHOUT "USA"

0:40:11 > 0:40:15Two weeks later, the South Carolina Senate vote to remove

0:40:15 > 0:40:18the flag from a war memorial at the Statehouse.

0:40:18 > 0:40:20The Confederate flag.

0:40:20 > 0:40:22It was a flag that flew over an army

0:40:22 > 0:40:26that fought to maintain a system of slavery and racial subjugation.

0:40:26 > 0:40:29Just because something's a tradition doesn't make it right.

0:40:35 > 0:40:37Many people celebrate

0:40:37 > 0:40:40but a CNN poll shows 57% of Americans

0:40:40 > 0:40:44see the flag more as a symbol of Southern pride than of racism.

0:40:46 > 0:40:50The Loyal White Knights feel it's an attack on their heritage

0:40:50 > 0:40:54and in protest, they arrange a march on the South Carolina Statehouse.

0:40:55 > 0:40:58Klansmen Amanda Lee and James Williams

0:40:58 > 0:41:01say their planned rally at the Statehouse will go on

0:41:01 > 0:41:05even though the flag's been furled and taken to a museum.

0:41:05 > 0:41:06It broke all of our hearts.

0:41:06 > 0:41:10The government, instead of being for the people and what the people

0:41:10 > 0:41:14want, they take it upon themselves to make the decision for us.

0:41:16 > 0:41:21In response, a coalition of anti-racism organisations and more

0:41:21 > 0:41:25extreme groups led by the New Black Panthers announce a counter-protest.

0:41:28 > 0:41:30Many expect trouble,

0:41:30 > 0:41:33including South Carolina's Grand Dragon, Charles Murphy.

0:41:33 > 0:41:35Come on in.

0:41:35 > 0:41:40If they want a race war, let's get it on before I die.

0:41:40 > 0:41:42I want to see one.

0:41:43 > 0:41:45What would a race war look like?

0:41:45 > 0:41:47It's going to be terrible.

0:41:47 > 0:41:51We're protesting them taking the flag down

0:41:51 > 0:41:56and when that riot starts tomorrow, there going to be bloodshed.

0:41:56 > 0:41:59Er, it's going to be all over the State capital.

0:41:59 > 0:42:02That's going to be World War III,

0:42:02 > 0:42:04cos it's going all over the United States.

0:42:06 > 0:42:10There going to be a lot of blood down there in Colombia

0:42:10 > 0:42:12and it ain't going to be all mine.

0:42:26 > 0:42:28I wonder if I should drink a beer today,

0:42:28 > 0:42:30just in case it's my last day on Earth.

0:42:31 > 0:42:33Just don't hit anyone.

0:42:33 > 0:42:35Like physically hit?

0:42:35 > 0:42:36Yeah, just don't hit anyone.

0:42:36 > 0:42:40I mean, I'm not going to hit anybody but if somebody swings on me then...

0:42:40 > 0:42:44Oh, man, this is my first time ever...will be my first time ever

0:42:44 > 0:42:47in my 25 years of life,

0:42:47 > 0:42:50seeing one of these guys

0:42:50 > 0:42:55in their hood and in their, you know, in their robes, face-to-face.

0:42:55 > 0:42:58I've seen it on the Django and I've seen it on movies

0:42:58 > 0:43:02but I've never in my life ever been this, in person, I've never seen.

0:43:02 > 0:43:05If I can get close enough, I'm pulling hoods off.

0:43:05 > 0:43:07I want to-I want to see their face.

0:43:07 > 0:43:10That's the crazy thing about it, man, I saw somebody say, you know,

0:43:10 > 0:43:12the reason they wear their hoods and stuff like that,

0:43:12 > 0:43:15because these are your doctors, lawyers, judges, cops...

0:43:15 > 0:43:18- Sheriff. - You know what I'm saying?

0:43:18 > 0:43:20And I... You know, that's the crazy thing about it,

0:43:20 > 0:43:23you know, these probably the same people that you walk next to

0:43:23 > 0:43:26in Walmart and once they put that mask on and they put their hood on,

0:43:26 > 0:43:28it's a whole new world.

0:43:34 > 0:43:39The media and the government like to act like racism doesn't exist

0:43:39 > 0:43:43any more but knowing that there's people like the KKK are still

0:43:43 > 0:43:45here, like, to this day...

0:43:47 > 0:43:52Just being black, it just-it just fills you with anger, like,

0:43:52 > 0:43:55you keep antagonising us, we're going to act

0:43:55 > 0:43:58and what's going to go on at-at the Statehouse today,

0:43:58 > 0:44:02it's probably not going to end on a good note, honestly.

0:44:02 > 0:44:05The KKK and the Black Panthers, this is not...

0:44:05 > 0:44:07This is not a good combination.

0:44:12 > 0:44:15PEOPLE CHANT

0:44:17 > 0:44:21The South Carolina Statehouse is about to become a battleground

0:44:21 > 0:44:23for two extreme views of America.

0:44:23 > 0:44:27They believe in superiority but when you believe in superiority,

0:44:27 > 0:44:28they say you're racist.

0:44:28 > 0:44:33The New Black Panthers rally first, joined by anti-racism protesters.

0:44:33 > 0:44:36We're here cos Sojourner Truth was here.

0:44:36 > 0:44:40We're here cos black people are the creators of the world

0:44:40 > 0:44:43and wherever we go, we're going to take over, you just forgot.

0:44:43 > 0:44:45- Black power. - ALL:- Black power.

0:44:49 > 0:44:52A few blocks away from the black power protest,

0:44:52 > 0:44:54the Klan are gathering at a car park

0:44:54 > 0:44:57and Amanda is trying to rally her troops.

0:44:57 > 0:44:59Whose phone is this? Who give me that?

0:45:00 > 0:45:01So, what you think so far?

0:45:01 > 0:45:04This is, everybody's stuck and they're not here yet.

0:45:04 > 0:45:06Why, what's happened?

0:45:06 > 0:45:08There's a big wreck on the highway.

0:45:08 > 0:45:11Yeah, car flipped, it's delaying people getting here.

0:45:11 > 0:45:13Are you nervous?

0:45:13 > 0:45:16- SHE LAUGHS NERVOUSLY - Yeah, absolutely.

0:45:16 > 0:45:18SHE SIGHS

0:45:18 > 0:45:20It's an important moment for Amanda.

0:45:20 > 0:45:23She's put a lot into organising the march and is hoping

0:45:23 > 0:45:26for a show of strength from her Klan.

0:45:26 > 0:45:28Around 100 have shown up.

0:45:28 > 0:45:32We are taking a stand at the State Courthouse in South Carolina

0:45:32 > 0:45:36today. We're gathering to, um, support our white heritage

0:45:36 > 0:45:40and tell the governor that we do disapprove

0:45:40 > 0:45:43of her decision of removing our Confederate flag.

0:45:44 > 0:45:46We got a lot of new members out of this and,

0:45:46 > 0:45:50er, we got a lot of supporters, locals that's coming out

0:45:50 > 0:45:53today too, to stand with the Klan for the first time which is awesome.

0:45:53 > 0:45:56And if we are attacked, we will fight back.

0:45:56 > 0:46:00We will do what we have to do to defend ourselves, regardless.

0:46:00 > 0:46:04Nobody gives a damn about white people but we do.

0:46:04 > 0:46:09We're all a white race and the Klan was started in the South

0:46:09 > 0:46:12and they don't mean just to wipe this flag out,

0:46:12 > 0:46:15but they mean to wipe our heritage out.

0:46:15 > 0:46:18- White power. - ALL:- White power!

0:46:20 > 0:46:23Er, sorry about that.

0:46:23 > 0:46:26The Klan isn't the only white supremacist group that's come out

0:46:26 > 0:46:28to defend the flag.

0:46:28 > 0:46:32Sorry, sorry. It seems like it's not just the Klan here?

0:46:32 > 0:46:33You got a lot of different people,

0:46:33 > 0:46:37um, National Socialist Movement is here as well as, er, other people.

0:46:37 > 0:46:39By National Socialists, is that...

0:46:39 > 0:46:41Would we know them as the Nazi party?

0:46:41 > 0:46:43- Yeah.- Yeah. - Let's go with that, yeah.

0:46:45 > 0:46:49Actually, I-I think this is going to be the total beginning.

0:46:49 > 0:46:51- Of?- Of a-a race war.

0:46:56 > 0:47:00I'm worried about the white people that are actually going out there

0:47:00 > 0:47:02and, you know, start shooting people, burning down stuff.

0:47:02 > 0:47:05I mean if they do, they do, I mean, what can I say?

0:47:08 > 0:47:10Is anyone armed?

0:47:10 > 0:47:12Erm, I can't tell you that.

0:47:12 > 0:47:15SIREN BLARES

0:47:15 > 0:47:18- White power! - ALL:- White power!

0:47:21 > 0:47:24The authorities have put a ban on weapons

0:47:24 > 0:47:27within 250 feet of the Statehouse.

0:47:29 > 0:47:32But there's no ban on tubas.

0:47:32 > 0:47:35TUBA PLAYS

0:47:35 > 0:47:38Back up folks, get out of the way, out of the way, out of the way.

0:47:38 > 0:47:40- BOOING - White power!

0:47:40 > 0:47:43The black power rally is meant to have finished

0:47:43 > 0:47:47but thousands of people have stuck around to greet the Klan.

0:47:47 > 0:47:50- White power! - White power!

0:47:50 > 0:47:53- Black power!- White power! - Black power!- White power!

0:47:53 > 0:47:55- Black power!- White power!

0:47:57 > 0:48:02Shame! I'm ashamed of you, I'm embarrassed by you!

0:48:02 > 0:48:06How you going to stand out there with a Bible in your hand?

0:48:06 > 0:48:08You should be ashamed!

0:48:13 > 0:48:16- What do we want?- White power! - When do we want it?

0:48:16 > 0:48:19- Right now!- What do we want? - White power!

0:48:19 > 0:48:22- When do we want it?- Right now! - What do we want?

0:48:22 > 0:48:24- White power!- When do we want it?

0:48:24 > 0:48:27- Right now!- White power!

0:48:29 > 0:48:32Is this what you expected?

0:48:32 > 0:48:34Yeah, it's what I expected, there's no violence on our behalf,

0:48:34 > 0:48:36we see who the true aggressors are.

0:48:38 > 0:48:40What do you mean by that?

0:48:40 > 0:48:42Just look at the crowd, I mean they started throwing bottles,

0:48:42 > 0:48:46they start trying to egg on fights, they're the true agitators, not us.

0:48:46 > 0:48:48I ain't even trying to talk, I wanna bust some motherfucker,

0:48:48 > 0:48:52it's about that to me, fuck talk, fuck trying to teach a savage,

0:48:52 > 0:48:53you can't teach a savage.

0:48:53 > 0:48:56But that's because they think you're racists.

0:48:56 > 0:48:59It doesn't matter, freedom of speech is freedom of speech.

0:49:03 > 0:49:05You know, we've come here in peace

0:49:05 > 0:49:07and they start throwing rocks and bottles,

0:49:07 > 0:49:10and is that not like a beast would do?

0:49:10 > 0:49:14They're not human, there's nothing about these people that are human.

0:49:14 > 0:49:16There seems to be a lot of hostility.

0:49:16 > 0:49:19Yeah, it is. Look at that, right there, that's crazy.

0:49:19 > 0:49:22We're used to it though, I mean Loyal White Knights,

0:49:22 > 0:49:25we put our feet on the ground,

0:49:25 > 0:49:28we do stuff like this to prove to people,

0:49:28 > 0:49:33hey, we do care about our white history and our love for our race.

0:49:34 > 0:49:37You fucking monkeys!

0:49:37 > 0:49:43- MIMICS APE - You look like a fucking gorilla!

0:49:43 > 0:49:46MONKEY CALLS

0:49:46 > 0:49:49Hey, but that flag ain't racist though(!)

0:49:49 > 0:49:53They going to preach to us and tell us that that flag's not racist,

0:49:53 > 0:49:55look at them, it's ridiculous.

0:49:56 > 0:49:59White power, white power.

0:50:03 > 0:50:05Whoo! White power!

0:50:05 > 0:50:07There are plenty of extremists

0:50:07 > 0:50:10but there are also lots of white Southerners

0:50:10 > 0:50:13just out to support the flag.

0:50:13 > 0:50:15Are you a member of the Klan or?

0:50:15 > 0:50:18No, I'm representing the white people.

0:50:18 > 0:50:21- So you're not affiliated to an organisation?- No.

0:50:21 > 0:50:23- Why do you...? - I don't need an organisation,

0:50:23 > 0:50:27- I'm representing my white people. - Is this part of a bigger movement?

0:50:27 > 0:50:29- Yes, sir, it is. - In what sense?

0:50:29 > 0:50:32They trying to take the flag down, the monuments down,

0:50:32 > 0:50:34everything white, eradicate the white history,

0:50:34 > 0:50:36our Southern culture, and we're tired of it.

0:50:36 > 0:50:39- White power!- White power!

0:50:41 > 0:50:44After an hour at the Statehouse, the Klan's protest time is up

0:50:44 > 0:50:48but they still need to get back to the car park.

0:51:04 > 0:51:08Drop the knife! Drop the knife! Get on the ground!

0:51:08 > 0:51:09Get on the ground!

0:51:11 > 0:51:15As police struggle to maintain order, Ricardo steps in.

0:51:17 > 0:51:19- Black power!- White power! - Black power!- White power!

0:51:19 > 0:51:21- Black power!- White power!

0:51:21 > 0:51:26- Black power!- White power! - Black power!- White power!

0:51:26 > 0:51:28Hey, don't touch my fucking brother.

0:51:35 > 0:51:39In the chaos, the protesters manage to steal the Confederate flag.

0:51:43 > 0:51:46Rip that shit, rip that shit.

0:51:53 > 0:52:00Death to white supremacy! Black power!

0:52:02 > 0:52:04SIRENS BLARE

0:52:04 > 0:52:06Protesters chase the Klan back to the car park.

0:52:06 > 0:52:09What?! Get the fuck outta here!

0:52:14 > 0:52:17We were yanked by the police into the garage, yes,

0:52:17 > 0:52:19there are guys still out there.

0:52:23 > 0:52:25You've seen we had over 100 people,

0:52:25 > 0:52:27we're looking at maybe 55 here.

0:52:35 > 0:52:40Sir, you have to get out of here, we got...

0:52:40 > 0:52:45Listen, listen, I got to get everybody out the way.

0:52:45 > 0:52:47- A lady of ours had a seizure. - Yeah, I know.

0:52:47 > 0:52:50SIRENS BLARE

0:52:52 > 0:52:56The Klan convoy is escorted out of town by the police.

0:53:00 > 0:53:02Not all the cars make it.

0:53:09 > 0:53:14For those protesting against the Klan, it seems like a victory.

0:53:20 > 0:53:22When I saw the skinheads walk by,

0:53:22 > 0:53:24the first thing that came into my mind

0:53:24 > 0:53:27was they're not going to just walk past me

0:53:27 > 0:53:30and then scream this white power, from a racist standpoint,

0:53:30 > 0:53:33and think that I'm, me personally, I'm just going to let that go.

0:53:33 > 0:53:36That motherfucker was a mad man going in there,

0:53:36 > 0:53:40I'm surprised he walked away, like I said I'm glad that, you know,

0:53:40 > 0:53:45my people and those other people didn't fuck him up, but...Goddamn!

0:53:45 > 0:53:49And the reason why we ripped his flag is because, for one,

0:53:49 > 0:53:52we don't give a shit about it, and for two,

0:53:52 > 0:53:55I'll fight for what I believe and this is just part of it,

0:53:55 > 0:53:58this is just a little, a little part of it, a little example.

0:53:58 > 0:54:01- What does black power mean to you? - Black power?

0:54:01 > 0:54:05Black power means unity between black people, you know,

0:54:05 > 0:54:06everybody gotta stand up

0:54:06 > 0:54:08and everybody gotta stand for their colour and their race,

0:54:08 > 0:54:12since it's about a race thing we're going to make it about a race thing.

0:54:12 > 0:54:14Black power.

0:54:14 > 0:54:16They want their flag, ain't going to get it.

0:54:20 > 0:54:23All right, that's what I'm talking about.

0:54:37 > 0:54:41Away from the Statehouse, the Klan are licking their wounds.

0:54:41 > 0:54:44They busted out her window, they busted out my window,

0:54:44 > 0:54:47my seat has blood in it.

0:54:47 > 0:54:49A few people got hurt, you know,

0:54:49 > 0:54:51and we did have a rock thrown at our car.

0:54:51 > 0:54:54They started running towards my automobile,

0:54:54 > 0:54:58five or six of them, and the law, when I pulled my knife out

0:54:58 > 0:55:03and I was aiming to dig in, well, he ran beside the car protecting them

0:55:03 > 0:55:06and telling me to put my knife up.

0:55:08 > 0:55:10What do you think you achieved today?

0:55:10 > 0:55:13Truthfully, I hope that a lot of people,

0:55:13 > 0:55:14when they see the news today,

0:55:14 > 0:55:17actually see that we actually, in the Loyal White Knights,

0:55:17 > 0:55:20we love our race, that we would go out there

0:55:20 > 0:55:24and jeopardise our lives just so we can stand up for our cause.

0:55:24 > 0:55:27- Do you think you achieved that? - Yes, I do, I do.

0:55:27 > 0:55:30I hope that we can start waking up the community

0:55:30 > 0:55:32before this race war really happens.

0:55:43 > 0:55:45Even though they claim they're growing,

0:55:45 > 0:55:48the Ku Klux Klan remains a tiny organisation.

0:55:51 > 0:55:54At times, they may seem ridiculous

0:55:54 > 0:55:57but the Charleston massacre shows just how dangerous

0:55:57 > 0:56:00white supremacist views can be.

0:56:00 > 0:56:01Who should be afraid of the Klan?

0:56:01 > 0:56:04Nobody. Criminals, crooks, paedophiles, drug dealers,

0:56:04 > 0:56:08you know, homosexuals, anybody that hates Jesus Christ,

0:56:08 > 0:56:11anybody that's not American and Christian.

0:56:11 > 0:56:14Good hearted Christian black folks have nothing to fear from us.

0:56:14 > 0:56:17- Will you accept the blood of Christ? - Yes.

0:56:17 > 0:56:20- Will you accept the blood of Christ? - Absolutely.

0:56:20 > 0:56:22Don't turn your back on the cross!

0:56:22 > 0:56:25What's the endgame, where's this all leading?

0:56:25 > 0:56:27America's such a large country,

0:56:27 > 0:56:29I mean we could peacefully work out a deal with the blacks,

0:56:29 > 0:56:31I mean we can give them some part of America

0:56:31 > 0:56:33and we can stay in this other part

0:56:33 > 0:56:36and naturally segregate ourselves from one another.

0:56:36 > 0:56:39Behold the burning cross! Still brilliant!

0:56:39 > 0:56:42Cos you can't force two different kinds of people to come together,

0:56:42 > 0:56:45it's like putting two stray dogs together in a cage

0:56:45 > 0:56:47and one of them's going to bite the other.

0:56:47 > 0:56:49Come on.

0:56:50 > 0:56:52- ALL:- White power!