The Hunt for Classroom Extremists

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0:00:04 > 0:00:10This mass terrorism is the new evil in our world today.

0:00:10 > 0:00:14We'll smoke them out of thehr holes and get them running.

0:00:14 > 0:00:18Muslims here say they are bding branded as extremists.

0:00:18 > 0:00:19Often, we're under attack.

0:00:19 > 0:00:24We're feeling marginalised.

0:00:24 > 0:00:26Looks like an explosion.

0:00:26 > 0:00:31A callous attack on purely hnnocent members of the public.

0:00:31 > 0:00:33The EDL says its members ard simply voicing their opposition

0:00:34 > 0:00:36to Muslim extremism.

0:00:36 > 0:00:39I was born here and I am as much British as any other white person

0:00:39 > 0:00:44that lives in this country.

0:00:57 > 0:01:03The process behind Trojan Horses is simple.

0:01:03 > 0:01:05Step one, identify schools that are based in Muslim areas.

0:01:05 > 0:01:11Step two, select a group of parents.

0:01:11 > 0:01:15Step three, put your own Governor in.

0:01:15 > 0:01:20Step four, identify key staff to disrupt the school from within.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22And step five, anonymous letter and PR campaign.

0:01:24 > 0:01:27Those were the steps that were followed at my school.

0:01:27 > 0:01:32There is the agenda.

0:01:32 > 0:01:42The problem of Islamist extremism in our schools is serious.

0:01:44 > 0:01:46The Trojan Horse... Everyone now knows it was a hoax.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48This was done as part of a witchhunt.

0:01:48 > 0:01:53My reaction was that they did not uncover a lot.

0:02:02 > 0:02:04Got about 20 minutes, 25 minutes to think about all

0:02:04 > 0:02:07the successes that have happened this week in school

0:02:07 > 0:02:13and who we want to say well done to.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16We have 739 children on roll currently.

0:02:16 > 0:02:20And, at the moment, about 92% of those children are Muslil.

0:02:20 > 0:02:23Most of those children have Pakistani heritage,

0:02:23 > 0:02:29some Bangladeshi, a few Somalian and a few Yemeni.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31I think any head teacher is concerned about any kind

0:02:31 > 0:02:33of extremism, because you c`n have extremism, extreme views,

0:02:33 > 0:02:37extreme behaviour in any school in this country.

0:02:37 > 0:02:40It is not confined to certahn areas of the country at all.

0:02:45 > 0:02:49I joined Park View in 1983 and my role was head of mathematics.

0:02:49 > 0:02:55The culture of the children was important.

0:02:56 > 0:02:59But you should not allow ond culture to dominate over another culture.

0:02:59 > 0:03:04Things started to change in '97

0:03:04 > 0:03:10We had a meeting of the full governing body, and the chahr

0:03:10 > 0:03:14was challenged by a governor with the words of,

0:03:14 > 0:03:17what are you doing sitting there?

0:03:17 > 0:03:19You have no right to be Chair of Governors.

0:03:19 > 0:03:21And immediately following that, Tahir Alam became

0:03:21 > 0:03:28Chair of Governors.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30And that was a very, very significant change

0:03:30 > 0:03:32to the school's ethos.

0:03:32 > 0:03:33He is a capable person.

0:03:33 > 0:03:37I think he is a reasonable person.

0:03:37 > 0:03:42I think he is also an assertive person.

0:03:42 > 0:03:45We came to this country in 0978 and I remember discussions

0:03:45 > 0:03:51with my father as to why we came here in the first place.

0:03:51 > 0:03:54And his primary reasons were that we should receive

0:03:54 > 0:03:56education in this country.

0:03:56 > 0:04:00So, that has always stayed with me.

0:04:00 > 0:04:02We settled in Alum Rock in Birmingham.

0:04:02 > 0:04:06Average family from Pakistan.

0:04:06 > 0:04:08Not particularly religious.

0:04:08 > 0:04:10I went to Park View School.

0:04:10 > 0:04:16I did experience racism in the school.

0:04:16 > 0:04:17I was called "Park", "curry-smelling Park",

0:04:17 > 0:04:23"smelly Park".

0:04:23 > 0:04:25I was also beaten up by a ntmber...

0:04:25 > 0:04:29I was beaten up four times in racist attacks as well.

0:04:29 > 0:04:31And in 1993, I saw a progralme that resonated quite

0:04:31 > 0:04:41importantly in my mind.

0:04:43 > 0:04:45Britain's new underclass is Asian and Muslim.

0:04:45 > 0:04:47A once tightly-knit community is now in crisis, with drug

0:04:47 > 0:04:49abuse, crime and family breakdown on the increase.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52What they were saying was that, you know, if the education failure

0:04:52 > 0:04:54continues at the rate and scale it is continuing at,

0:04:54 > 0:05:04we will have a serious underclass, a Muslim underclass.

0:05:07 > 0:05:10There is little doubt that Luslim children have suffered from low

0:05:10 > 0:05:11teacher expectations.

0:05:11 > 0:05:13All these children, year in, year out, are systematicallx

0:05:13 > 0:05:15failing and nobody is doing anything about it.

0:05:15 > 0:05:18It was an important moment because I did decide at the time

0:05:18 > 0:05:28that I wanted to make a difference in education.

0:05:37 > 0:05:384% of children got A-C gradds.

0:05:38 > 0:05:40The school was in chaos, quite frankly.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42It was not providing an education at all.

0:05:42 > 0:05:50At the time, I did not even think about the faith, to be

0:05:50 > 0:05:51very frank with you.

0:05:51 > 0:05:53I think that confident children do well in education.

0:05:53 > 0:05:56And whatever builds the confidence of the children and being

0:05:56 > 0:06:00comfortable in their own skin is important.

0:06:00 > 0:06:0299% of children were from this particular background.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04I think it is important for schools to value

0:06:04 > 0:06:05and respect those backgrounds.

0:06:05 > 0:06:08It would mean that, for exalple you know, that we would not show

0:06:08 > 0:06:11very explicit videos about sex education but it would be t`ught

0:06:11 > 0:06:18in a more kind of...

0:06:18 > 0:06:20We applied for the collective worship to be Islamic,

0:06:20 > 0:06:21reflecting the family background of the children.

0:06:21 > 0:06:24They were trying to change the ethos of the school from one

0:06:24 > 0:06:27of being a British school in England, preparing British

0:06:27 > 0:06:29students for working within Britain and the wider world,

0:06:29 > 0:06:39to a more insular community.

0:06:39 > 0:06:43The council knew what was going on and they did nothing.

0:06:50 > 0:06:52I am a first-generation Sikh.

0:06:52 > 0:06:53My father came here.

0:06:53 > 0:06:59He was a professional teachdr back in India.

0:06:59 > 0:07:00He knew the power of educathon.

0:07:00 > 0:07:08He instilled that into us very early.

0:07:08 > 0:07:10I was brought up in a multicultural area of Coventry, inner-citx.

0:07:10 > 0:07:12So, black faces, white faces, brown faces...

0:07:12 > 0:07:22There was no tension, only great memories.

0:07:26 > 0:07:27My first headship was Saltldy School.

0:07:27 > 0:07:3095% of the ethnic make-up was from a Muslim background.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33My job was to help get them and raise them to a point

0:07:33 > 0:07:35where they could be successful members of -

0:07:35 > 0:07:42and contribute to - society in Britain.

0:07:42 > 0:07:45When I look back, what was going on was a calculated agenda to put

0:07:45 > 0:07:49through an Islamic focus in schools and to remove head teachers like me

0:07:49 > 0:07:59who would not conform to those agendas.

0:08:00 > 0:08:02The process behind Trojan Horse is simple.

0:08:02 > 0:08:04It is about people seeing otr intentions as respectable

0:08:04 > 0:08:07and being accepted by the kdy stakeholders, such as the dhrector

0:08:07 > 0:08:09of education and the City Council.

0:08:09 > 0:08:14Is that a fair description of actually what happened?

0:08:14 > 0:08:21It is.

0:08:21 > 0:08:23But I would not limit it to the director of education

0:08:23 > 0:08:25and the City Council.

0:08:25 > 0:08:33Ofsted gave an "outstanding" label to the schools here.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36Ministers and the Prime Minhster gave "outstanding" labels to those

0:08:36 > 0:08:37schools and feted them with praise.

0:08:37 > 0:08:43They considered them so successful and so desirable that they held them

0:08:43 > 0:08:46up as national examples to be copied by other schools and gave them

0:08:46 > 0:08:52autonomous status separate from the council.

0:08:52 > 0:08:55There were a lot of people who were drawn in by

0:08:55 > 0:08:57this and duped by it.

0:08:57 > 0:08:58Including...?

0:08:58 > 0:09:04Including the City Council.

0:09:04 > 0:09:06The year I joined the school as a governor in 1997,

0:09:06 > 0:09:10the results were 4% of all children getting A-C grades.

0:09:10 > 0:09:13And the year that I left thd school, the results were at 75%

0:09:13 > 0:09:22of children getting A* to C, including English and maths.

0:09:22 > 0:09:24In terms of life chances for youngsters from that colmunity,

0:09:24 > 0:09:32what Park View senior leadership achieved is an example to us all.

0:09:32 > 0:09:36I was invited to 10 Downing Street by Tony Blair in recognition

0:09:36 > 0:09:39of my services and contributions to school governance.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43So there is nothing clandestine about what we were doing.

0:09:43 > 0:09:46I mean, I was very much an establishment person.

0:09:46 > 0:09:48Faith schools are very popular, they do deliver a very good product

0:09:48 > 0:09:51as far as education is concdrned.

0:09:51 > 0:09:54The achievement of Muslim children lags by 14 percentage points

0:09:54 > 0:09:56against national average.

0:09:56 > 0:09:58So, basically, our children are being subjected

0:09:58 > 0:10:01to cultural oppression.

0:10:01 > 0:10:02And Sir Michael Wilshaw, the chief of Ofsted,

0:10:02 > 0:10:08he came as well to the school.

0:10:08 > 0:10:11It was the first school I vhsited when I became chief inspector.

0:10:11 > 0:10:14And all the data showed it had come a long way in a relatively

0:10:14 > 0:10:17short period of time.

0:10:17 > 0:10:20We deemed it to be an outst`nding school and the head teacher had

0:10:20 > 0:10:24done a tremendous job.

0:10:24 > 0:10:27Because they were getting outstanding results,

0:10:27 > 0:10:36the DfE encouraged them to take responsibility for other schools.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39When we actually failed the second visit from the Ofsted inspector

0:10:39 > 0:10:41the local authority was then required to appoint

0:10:41 > 0:10:46an improvement partner.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49And Park View was being suggested, both by the local authority

0:10:49 > 0:10:53and at that stage also by officers of the DfE.

0:10:53 > 0:10:56I think the crossover period between Tahir Alam and us

0:10:56 > 0:11:01was about six months.

0:11:01 > 0:11:06And in those six months, I think I saw Tahir Alam

0:11:06 > 0:11:08in the school about twice.

0:11:08 > 0:11:11And I got no sense from him that he was actually trying

0:11:11 > 0:11:17to Islamise the school.

0:11:17 > 0:11:22At Saltey School, we had a Sikh head running a Muslim school.

0:11:22 > 0:11:24Balwant Bains will soon be sacked and we will move in.

0:11:24 > 0:11:27And, of course, it was not long after this that Mr Bains

0:11:27 > 0:11:29lost his job.

0:11:29 > 0:11:39Step one, identify your school.

0:11:40 > 0:11:41Step two, select a group of Salafi parents.

0:11:41 > 0:11:43Step three, put your own governors in.

0:11:43 > 0:11:46Step four, identify key staff to disrupt the school from within.

0:11:46 > 0:11:51Step five, anonymised letter and PR campaign.

0:11:51 > 0:11:56Do you know what? When I read that, that...

0:11:56 > 0:11:59It upsets me a little bit.

0:11:59 > 0:12:01It upsets me because the step-by-step programme

0:12:01 > 0:12:08is exactly what happened at our school.

0:12:10 > 0:12:14Balwant Bains, a very successful school leader,

0:12:14 > 0:12:16was taking his school forward in terms of standards

0:12:16 > 0:12:19and was challenging some very difficult issues within his school.

0:12:19 > 0:12:22There was the suggestion that we should have single sex

0:12:22 > 0:12:25classes, which separated thd boys from the girls.

0:12:25 > 0:12:33And one of the biggest ones that I was very upset about was taking

0:12:33 > 0:12:34citizenship off the curriculum.

0:12:34 > 0:12:42We would call it Britishness now.

0:12:42 > 0:12:45Yet they wanted to take that away.

0:12:45 > 0:12:47That that just totally went against my ethos of

0:12:47 > 0:12:50an inclusive school.

0:12:50 > 0:12:52On numerous occasions, Balwant went to the local

0:12:52 > 0:12:55authority with the evidence, with the account of the pressure

0:12:56 > 0:12:57he was being subjected to.

0:12:57 > 0:12:58No-one took action.

0:12:58 > 0:12:59No-one listened.

0:12:59 > 0:13:03No-one intervened.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06West Midlands Police were c`lled to Saltley School in Birmingham

0:13:06 > 0:13:13after reports a pupil was threatening others with a knife.

0:13:13 > 0:13:15The school decided to permanently exclude the teenage boy.

0:13:15 > 0:13:17Saltley head teacher is a r`cist.

0:13:17 > 0:13:20He suspended a Muslim child but does not suspend a non-Muslim.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22Are you going to let this r`cist, Islamophobic teacher,

0:13:22 > 0:13:25Balwant Bains, get away with it

0:13:25 > 0:13:27If you believe in justice and that everyone should be treated dqually,

0:13:28 > 0:13:29join the demonstration.

0:13:29 > 0:13:38Friday 27th of September, outside the school at 2.45.

0:13:41 > 0:13:44This was their way to put pressure and to remove me

0:13:44 > 0:13:45because I wasn't conforming.

0:13:45 > 0:13:52It was a nightmare. It was a horrible place to be.

0:13:52 > 0:13:55So, the moment I read the Trojan Horse letter,

0:13:55 > 0:13:58I knew how big it was going to be.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02A leaked anonymous letter alleged Muslim plots...

0:14:02 > 0:14:04The plan, known as Operation Trojan Horse...

0:14:04 > 0:14:07A conspiracy by Muslim hardliners has been taking

0:14:07 > 0:14:09over state schools...

0:14:09 > 0:14:13A dozen schools in Birmingh`m are now being investigated over

0:14:13 > 0:14:14allegations of extremism.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17The future of 15,000 pupils is at stake.

0:14:17 > 0:14:20The man brought in by the Education Secretary

0:14:20 > 0:14:23to investigate used to be the national head of counterterror.

0:14:23 > 0:14:27Peter Clarke has confirmed there was evidence of a plot.

0:14:27 > 0:14:29Ofsted said there had been a deliberate attempt to change

0:14:30 > 0:14:32the ethos of the schools.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34A historic failure to tackle non-violent extremisl.

0:14:34 > 0:14:38The problem of Islamist extremism in our schools is serious.

0:14:38 > 0:14:40The situation not just in Birmingham, but elsewherd

0:14:40 > 0:14:42this is happening.

0:14:42 > 0:14:45I think the headline finding obviously has to be the fact I came

0:14:45 > 0:14:47into possession of a WhatsApp social media

0:14:47 > 0:14:51discussion group.

0:14:51 > 0:14:54Some 55 members, during the relevant period, most of whom were tdachers

0:14:54 > 0:14:57at the Park View Educational Trust, and what it disclosed

0:14:57 > 0:15:01was a whole range of completely unacceptable attitudes.

0:15:01 > 0:15:05Misogyny, homophobia, discussing how to bring mord

0:15:05 > 0:15:09segregation into the school, disparaging remarks about British

0:15:09 > 0:15:12service personnel, scepticism about reports of the attack

0:15:12 > 0:15:15on Lee Rigby and the Boston bombing, and so on.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17A litany of intolerance.

0:15:18 > 0:15:21I think anyone would find it shocking that those people who have

0:15:21 > 0:15:23been entrusted with the card and education of children should

0:15:23 > 0:15:26hold those attitudes.

0:15:26 > 0:15:30If those kind of views were raised with myself, I would find them

0:15:30 > 0:15:33completely unacceptable.

0:15:35 > 0:15:37But that is not something that was being promoted

0:15:37 > 0:15:40at the school.

0:15:40 > 0:15:42They are not part of school policy.

0:15:44 > 0:15:48At one secular primary school, terms such as "white prostitute ,

0:15:48 > 0:15:52unsuitable for primary children s ears, were used on Friday

0:15:52 > 0:15:55assemblies, run exclusively by Muslim staff.

0:15:55 > 0:15:57At one secular secondary school staff told officials the call

0:15:57 > 0:16:02to prayer was broadcast over the playground using loudspdakers.

0:16:02 > 0:16:07In biology, students were told "evolution is not what we bdlieve".

0:16:07 > 0:16:10We do have Islamic assemblids, but they just teach you lessons

0:16:10 > 0:16:14like to be nice to one another, be nice to your parents, and so on.

0:16:14 > 0:16:17It's not like we have assault courses on how to make bombs

0:16:17 > 0:16:19and all sorts of stuff.

0:16:19 > 0:16:21He says that you could sit with the girls.

0:16:21 > 0:16:23You can, you can.

0:16:23 > 0:16:24You can, you can.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26But you can't, like, have a girlfriend or

0:16:26 > 0:16:27have a boyfriend.

0:16:27 > 0:16:29You can't do any of that.

0:16:29 > 0:16:31That's true, and in Islam, you can't have a girlfriend

0:16:31 > 0:16:32or boyfriend either.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34Yeah, but it's not an Islamic school.

0:16:34 > 0:16:35And it feels like one, does it?

0:16:35 > 0:16:38Yeah, it does feel like an Hslamic school, but is not supposed

0:16:38 > 0:16:39to be an Islamic school.

0:16:39 > 0:16:41It's an academy.

0:16:41 > 0:16:45We found that governors were narrowing the curricultm,

0:16:45 > 0:16:48intimidating staff, intimidating headteachers,

0:16:48 > 0:16:53to try and impose their own agenda and those schools, to introduce

0:16:53 > 0:16:56to try and impose their own agenda on those schools, to introdtce

0:16:56 > 0:17:00a faith-based curriculum in non-faith schools.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04So here, Alam is a pivotal figure. Some claim he's the leader of a plot

0:17:04 > 0:17:08to make schools more Islamic.

0:17:08 > 0:17:13I've not formally been labelled as an extremist.

0:17:13 > 0:17:16I was a Sunni hardliner, according to Peter Clarke.

0:17:16 > 0:17:19I'm an educationalist by profession, so the vast majority of contacts

0:17:19 > 0:17:23on the list that he's got this spider diagram on,

0:17:23 > 0:17:26there's nothing clandestine about any of those.

0:17:26 > 0:17:28Peter Clarke is trying to put across that he has

0:17:28 > 0:17:31unearthed all of these.

0:17:33 > 0:17:37Hello, Mr Alam, Mr Alam? Hello?

0:17:37 > 0:17:38Your answer is to deny everxthing.

0:17:38 > 0:17:41Is that still the case?

0:17:41 > 0:17:44I consider myself to be a person who, you know,

0:17:44 > 0:17:47who tried to make a contribttion, a voluntary contribution,

0:17:47 > 0:17:51to the well-being and success of children, and for that,

0:17:51 > 0:17:54I have been vilified.

0:17:54 > 0:17:57Well, Mr Alam has a bit of a difficulty here, doesn't he?

0:17:57 > 0:18:00He was the chairman of governors of that school for a

0:18:00 > 0:18:01considerable period of time.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03Now, either he did know about the attitudes held

0:18:03 > 0:18:11by his staff and displayed in that one sap group,

0:18:11 > 0:18:13by his staff and displayed in that WhatsApp group,

0:18:13 > 0:18:14or he didn't.

0:18:14 > 0:18:16If he did know, and didn't do anything about it,

0:18:16 > 0:18:18he is as culpable as they are.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21If he didn't know, then cle`rly he was ineffectual as a chahrman

0:18:21 > 0:18:23of governors and has no right to criticise anybody who makes

0:18:23 > 0:18:25observations about what is going on in his school.

0:18:25 > 0:18:28A second report, published today by Birmingham City Council,

0:18:28 > 0:18:29found some individuals were promoting Islamic practices,

0:18:29 > 0:18:32and it agreed that weaknessds in governance and a failure

0:18:32 > 0:18:34by the authorities to act on warnings had

0:18:34 > 0:18:37allowed this to happen.

0:18:37 > 0:18:40It is worth making the point that Birmingham City Council failed

0:18:40 > 0:18:45in their duty to these parents. And indeed...

0:18:45 > 0:18:49Birmingham City Council's lost half its workforce in the l`st eight

0:18:49 > 0:18:56years, so why didn't we spot the signs when we had them?

0:18:56 > 0:18:59Partly, we didn't do our jobs well enough, but also, partly,

0:18:59 > 0:19:02you have to recognise that the role of the local authority has been

0:19:02 > 0:19:04changing quite considerably over that time, and we're not

0:19:04 > 0:19:08the beast that we used to bd.

0:19:17 > 0:19:20Well, the Trojan Horse list, everybody now knows it was ` hoax.

0:19:20 > 0:19:24It was never written by Tahhr Alam.

0:19:24 > 0:19:27So I wasn't one of his governors and I wasn't one

0:19:27 > 0:19:29of his chair of governors.

0:19:29 > 0:19:32The Trojan Horse letter is a complete hoax.

0:19:32 > 0:19:38It is written by, you know, a headteacher, and it is wrhtten

0:19:38 > 0:19:43for the purposes of defending him or herself, and perhaps

0:19:43 > 0:19:47an element of revenge.

0:19:47 > 0:19:50It doesn't matter whether the letter was real or a ho`x.

0:19:50 > 0:19:51That's a huge red herring.

0:19:51 > 0:19:54The issue for me was whether what the letter

0:19:54 > 0:19:56was alleging was true, and we found that

0:19:56 > 0:19:59in many ways, it was.

0:19:59 > 0:20:03My reaction was that they didn't uncover a lot.

0:20:03 > 0:20:06I don't think they were bre`king the law, and I don't think

0:20:06 > 0:20:08that they were doing anything particularly wrong.

0:20:08 > 0:20:13I thought that what was on the WhatsApp, some

0:20:13 > 0:20:17of the views expressed there were really unpalatable.

0:20:17 > 0:20:20I don't think there was any excuse for that.

0:20:20 > 0:20:26But apart from that, I'm not sure it was anything that

0:20:26 > 0:20:28really struck me as, you know, totally outrageous

0:20:28 > 0:20:30or outwith the law.

0:20:30 > 0:20:33The accusations that they wdre encouraging children to prax...

0:20:33 > 0:20:37Well, the law requires them to pray in school, so where's

0:20:37 > 0:20:41the problem in that?

0:20:41 > 0:20:43There was an accusation, you know, the separation

0:20:43 > 0:20:45of boys from girls.

0:20:45 > 0:20:48Well, you know, English sochety itself has separated boys

0:20:48 > 0:20:50and girls in schools.

0:20:50 > 0:20:53We've got girls' schools, we've got boys' schools.

0:20:53 > 0:20:57The law allows an Islamic ethos in a school.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03Previously rated outstanding, Park View Academy in Alum Rock

0:21:03 > 0:21:08is now deemed to be inadequ`te.

0:21:08 > 0:21:10Now, if only when you begin raising the question that

0:21:10 > 0:21:12suddenly, Ofsted took...

0:21:12 > 0:21:15I don't know whether they took fright or what, but suddenlx,

0:21:15 > 0:21:18within a matter of a couple of years, the school is said

0:21:18 > 0:21:26to be a failing school, and I ask myself, do institttions

0:21:26 > 0:21:28change as quickly as that?

0:21:28 > 0:21:31They were outstanding schools on the basis of the progress

0:21:31 > 0:21:35and attainment measures that we used at that time.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38Because they had been judged to be outstanding and therefore not

0:21:38 > 0:21:41subject to further inspection, because of that outstanding grade,

0:21:41 > 0:21:47the governors saw that as a real opportunity to manipulate the system

0:21:47 > 0:21:51and to impose their agenda and their own narrow

0:21:51 > 0:21:54curriculum on the school.

0:21:55 > 0:21:57The school didn't change. Our curriculum didn't changd.

0:21:57 > 0:22:01Our practices didn't change.

0:22:01 > 0:22:02Our collective worship didn't change.

0:22:02 > 0:22:05But something else changed, and that was the political

0:22:05 > 0:22:06motivation, I think.

0:22:06 > 0:22:11I think the whole interventhon into our schools was motivated

0:22:11 > 0:22:18by Islamophobic intentions, and it came from the highest

0:22:18 > 0:22:23political office.

0:22:36 > 0:22:38They expected to find extrelist radicalisation leading

0:22:38 > 0:22:44to terrorist activity, and what they actually found

0:22:44 > 0:22:52was a religious faith overexerting itself slightly in order th`t

0:22:52 > 0:22:59schools reflected their relhgious practices and background,

0:22:59 > 0:23:02and they are not alone in doing that.

0:23:02 > 0:23:08Other faiths have done the same thing in other places.

0:23:13 > 0:23:17My concern is that we shouldn't be complacent, and we shouldn't believe

0:23:17 > 0:23:19that this sort of thing could not happen again.

0:23:19 > 0:23:21It could.

0:23:21 > 0:23:24And it will happen again, unless we are vigilant,

0:23:24 > 0:23:27unless the local authority, which is responsible

0:23:27 > 0:23:31for safeguarding and supporting headteachers in their schools,

0:23:31 > 0:23:35unless they take their job seriously, and our view

0:23:35 > 0:23:37here in Birmingham is that they're not taking their job

0:23:37 > 0:23:39seriously enough.

0:23:39 > 0:23:42They don't know what's happdning in individual schools.

0:23:42 > 0:23:45We've done everything that has been asked of us to shore

0:23:45 > 0:23:51up our strategies and to fix what happened.

0:23:51 > 0:23:53up our structures and to fix what happened.

0:23:53 > 0:23:55At the council, we have a ndw whistle-blowing procedure,

0:23:55 > 0:23:57and we regularly get whistld-blowing Commission, showing that people

0:23:57 > 0:23:59and we regularly get whistld-blowing coming in, showing that people

0:23:59 > 0:24:03are aware of that system and do know they can raise things in confidence

0:24:03 > 0:24:04and action will be taken.

0:24:04 > 0:24:06We already require independdnt schools, academies, and Fred Schools

0:24:06 > 0:24:07to respect British values.

0:24:07 > 0:24:10Now, we will consult on new rules that will strengthen the st`ndard

0:24:10 > 0:24:14further, requiring all thosd schools actively to promote British ideas.

0:24:15 > 0:24:19So this week, your teachers have been looking for children

0:24:19 > 0:24:23who demonstrate hope.

0:24:25 > 0:24:26Some children think, because their mum,

0:24:26 > 0:24:33dad, grandad, grandma, are from Pakistan originallx,

0:24:33 > 0:24:38they think they're Pakistanh, but they've got British passports.

0:24:38 > 0:24:43So we've done a lot of work on identity, but being proud to be

0:24:43 > 0:24:46but being proud to be a Brulmie being proud to be from Birmhngham,

0:24:47 > 0:24:48being proud to be British.

0:24:48 > 0:24:51So that's where British valtes come in, that there are some really great

0:24:51 > 0:24:52things about being British.

0:24:52 > 0:24:55So our ethos here has actually very little to do with religion

0:24:55 > 0:24:58It has to do with children, education, and we're quite firm that

0:24:58 > 0:25:04school is school, places of worship are places of worship.

0:25:16 > 0:25:18What has come out since the Trojan Horse letter

0:25:18 > 0:25:23became public totally vindicates what Michael's r`ising,

0:25:23 > 0:25:27and he has been very shabbily treated.

0:25:27 > 0:25:36I tried to continue in educ`tion, and I thought, fine, that's it.

0:25:36 > 0:25:39I've had enough, so I retrahned as an electrician and ran mx own

0:25:39 > 0:25:42electrical business for the next ten years to try and keep the wolf

0:25:42 > 0:25:43from the door.

0:25:43 > 0:25:46Had it not been for my very supportive wife, I would probably

0:25:46 > 0:25:47have been dead by now.

0:25:47 > 0:25:51Because I was very upset.

0:25:59 > 0:26:05I gave about 20 years of my life to governing bodies of two schools.

0:26:05 > 0:26:10And for it to be actually w`shed away as being "Muslim extrelism ,

0:26:10 > 0:26:14extremist, the only views are never held is that kids deserve

0:26:14 > 0:26:16extremist, the only views I've ever held is that kids deserve

0:26:16 > 0:26:21an outstanding level of education. So I do feel hurt.

0:26:21 > 0:26:23And I feel sorry and sad th`t Muslims have actually been

0:26:23 > 0:26:29frightened away from being teachers and being involved in education

0:26:38 > 0:26:40I didn't work for a year.

0:26:40 > 0:26:43Although I'm starting to rebuild my career again now,

0:26:43 > 0:26:49and have a job that I thorotghly enjoy, I'm nowhere near the level

0:26:49 > 0:26:52that I was of enjoying workhng with children every day,

0:26:52 > 0:26:57seeing them happy, because of the impact and work

0:26:57 > 0:27:00that you were doing.

0:27:05 > 0:27:05I have no regrets, really.

0:27:12 > 0:27:14I have no regrets, really.

0:27:14 > 0:27:17I am very proud of what we've achieved, for the children

0:27:17 > 0:27:20and for the community.

0:27:20 > 0:27:23That battle, really, for eqtality and dignity has to continue.

0:27:23 > 0:27:25I believe Islam is part and parcel of this country.

0:27:25 > 0:27:28Some people have difficulty with that.

0:27:28 > 0:27:33And then there is the wider political context of terrorhsm

0:27:33 > 0:27:37and so on, which is fuelling certain attitudes and certain intoldrances,

0:27:37 > 0:27:41but I think those things, as a society, we have to be able

0:27:41 > 0:27:43to work through that, I think.

0:27:43 > 0:27:46And there is no other soluthon.

0:27:48 > 0:27:53If you ask me, in summary, what happened, it's that sole

0:27:53 > 0:27:56governors behaved badly and inappropriately,

0:27:56 > 0:28:04that some teachers behaved badly and inappropriately,

0:28:04 > 0:28:07central government behaved unwisely, and I believe that

0:28:07 > 0:28:12the victims are not those pdople.

0:28:12 > 0:28:16The victims are the children and the community

0:28:16 > 0:28:21of East Birmingham.

0:29:02 > 0:29:04Hello, I'm Riz Lateef with your 90 second update.