0:00:02 > 0:00:04My name is Stacey, I think you're expecting me.
0:00:04 > 0:00:07At the minute, everything they're passionate about...
0:00:07 > 0:00:09I dislike.
0:00:09 > 0:00:12You're either a hunter or a gatherer, and I think it's a gift.
0:00:12 > 0:00:14We don't blame a wolf for eating its prey,
0:00:14 > 0:00:17but we blame a human for killing its prey.
0:00:17 > 0:00:20I believe that you're ignorant of the facts.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22Nothing lives for ever.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24Killing the animal is like the orgasm.
0:00:24 > 0:00:26I feel like I'm an outsider.
0:00:26 > 0:00:29If you hadn't have shot him in the first place,
0:00:29 > 0:00:32- you wouldn't be in this position. - Right.
0:00:32 > 0:00:35What would it take to change your mind about something
0:00:35 > 0:00:36you really believe in?
0:00:36 > 0:00:38It's like cabin fever, you know,
0:00:38 > 0:00:40I can't leave.
0:00:40 > 0:00:44When she picked up the rifle, she started getting into it.
0:00:44 > 0:00:51This programme contains some strong language and some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.
0:00:54 > 0:00:57Sport hunting is a multi-billion dollar industry.
0:00:57 > 0:01:00It's under the spotlight like never before.
0:01:01 > 0:01:04I mean, the one case that we're all familiar with back home is Cecil the
0:01:04 > 0:01:08lion. And I remember reading this, and actually, Twitter went nuts
0:01:08 > 0:01:10and everyone was just so outraged.
0:01:10 > 0:01:16I was appalled. I couldn't quite get my head around why some
0:01:16 > 0:01:22rich dentist was willing to spend 50,000 to pay to go to Africa
0:01:22 > 0:01:24and shoot a beautiful lion.
0:01:24 > 0:01:26Right now, I'm on my way
0:01:26 > 0:01:30to the Western Hunting and Conservation Expo.
0:01:30 > 0:01:32Essentially, it's just this huge hub
0:01:32 > 0:01:37where loads of like-minded hunters gather.
0:01:37 > 0:01:42At this point, I fundamentally disagree with hunting rare animals
0:01:42 > 0:01:45just for the sake of it. I do not get it.
0:01:45 > 0:01:48But, over the next couple of weeks, I am going to spend a huge amount of
0:01:48 > 0:01:49time to try and explore their world
0:01:49 > 0:01:53and at least understand certain points
0:01:53 > 0:01:55about where they're coming from.
0:02:01 > 0:02:03- How are you? I'm Stacey. - Nice to meet you.
0:02:03 > 0:02:05It's really lovely to meet you, too.
0:02:05 > 0:02:07- How do you do?- Good, how are you?- How's things, Marc?
0:02:07 > 0:02:08I'm well, thank you.
0:02:08 > 0:02:10I'm here to meet Marc Warnke,
0:02:10 > 0:02:15a lifelong hunter who's offered to introduce me to the world he loves.
0:02:15 > 0:02:18It's all so foreign to me, like, I've never been hunting,
0:02:18 > 0:02:21I've never even been fishing.
0:02:21 > 0:02:24Are you scared? Are you excited?
0:02:24 > 0:02:29I'm kind of anxious of what I'm going to have to see.
0:02:29 > 0:02:32Sure. Well, Jaken and I are honoured to share it with you.
0:02:32 > 0:02:34Oh, that's very sweet.
0:02:34 > 0:02:39Well, we're honoured because I believe we're so disenfranchised
0:02:39 > 0:02:42from the way we eat our food in today's world.
0:02:42 > 0:02:47We are the last bastions of human protein consumption.
0:02:47 > 0:02:51We're using nature, you know, in a way that is responsible
0:02:51 > 0:02:53and all those other elements
0:02:53 > 0:02:56that allow us to be stewards of Mother Nature.
0:02:57 > 0:03:01Jaken's been hunting with his dad since he was seven years old.
0:03:02 > 0:03:05So that's actually the bear, as he comes in.
0:03:05 > 0:03:07So this, by the way, is after six months of work
0:03:07 > 0:03:11to make this moment possible.
0:03:11 > 0:03:13Oh, it's so beautiful, the bear.
0:03:17 > 0:03:19(Yes!)
0:03:19 > 0:03:20(Yes!)
0:03:21 > 0:03:24(God, thank you for guiding Jaken's arrow.
0:03:24 > 0:03:29(Please help that bear to die quickly, feed our families, amen.)
0:03:29 > 0:03:31(Amen.)
0:03:31 > 0:03:33And did you eat the bear?
0:03:33 > 0:03:35Yeah, we did, actually.
0:03:35 > 0:03:37It was really surprisingly good.
0:03:37 > 0:03:39- Oh, really?- Really tasty.
0:03:39 > 0:03:41- It was amazing.- Yeah?
0:03:41 > 0:03:43Yeah, all there was was noises of clinking plates
0:03:43 > 0:03:45and ribs hitting the ground.
0:03:45 > 0:03:48It was delicious - delicious - some of the best.
0:03:48 > 0:03:52Could you not just enjoy the outdoors without killing anything
0:03:52 > 0:03:55- at the end? - We do, all the time.- You do?
0:03:55 > 0:03:57All the time. But it's different when you hunt, right?
0:03:57 > 0:04:00Because I think it's innate. I think God gives you
0:04:00 > 0:04:03the gatherer side of the population or the hunter side.
0:04:03 > 0:04:07You're either a hunter or a gatherer, and I think it's a gift.
0:04:09 > 0:04:12I'm told the money hunters pay to kill animals like lions
0:04:12 > 0:04:16actually helps conserve wildlife and communities.
0:04:16 > 0:04:19The conservation element is quite confusing, isn't it?
0:04:19 > 0:04:20- It is.- It's quite complicated.
0:04:20 > 0:04:23If that lion has huge, substantial monetary value,
0:04:23 > 0:04:26and so does that elephant, then you call the government,
0:04:26 > 0:04:27they call in a hunter that comes in
0:04:27 > 0:04:31and pays 50,000 to harvest that lion,
0:04:31 > 0:04:34and then that meat and that money goes to that community
0:04:34 > 0:04:38and the conservation or relocation of the remaining pride.
0:04:38 > 0:04:40You forget, we're animal lovers.
0:04:40 > 0:04:44So to have more animals to be able to hunt, we need healthy populations
0:04:44 > 0:04:46to support that, right?
0:04:46 > 0:04:51The US alone has nearly 14 million hunters.
0:04:51 > 0:04:54Many buy their hunts at auctions like this,
0:04:54 > 0:04:55one of the expo's main events.
0:04:55 > 0:04:59Somebody help me out on this. Somebody give me 50,000 to go.
0:04:59 > 0:05:02HE CHANTS
0:05:02 > 0:05:05I've got 30. I need five. Somebody give me 35.
0:05:05 > 0:05:09The bidding to shoot an Antelope Island mule deer
0:05:09 > 0:05:11has gone into six figures.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14I've got 400,000.
0:05:15 > 0:05:18Going once, going to twice...
0:05:18 > 0:05:21400,000...sold!
0:05:21 > 0:05:24I want to know if conservation's really behind the huge sums
0:05:24 > 0:05:26being bid tonight.
0:05:26 > 0:05:28How important is conservation?
0:05:28 > 0:05:31Because this is the buzzword that I've heard all night.
0:05:31 > 0:05:34Hunters don't get the accolades that they deserve.
0:05:34 > 0:05:39There's a lot of money raised and it all goes to a great cause,
0:05:39 > 0:05:40and great organisation.
0:05:40 > 0:05:44You know, I love wildlife. I'd do anything to give back.
0:05:44 > 0:05:49CHEERING That guy has just spent nearly half a million dollars,
0:05:49 > 0:05:52you know, most people will never own a home worth that amount.
0:05:52 > 0:05:55It's just unbelievable.
0:05:55 > 0:05:59And I definitely underestimated how much money is thrown
0:05:59 > 0:06:00at this industry.
0:06:00 > 0:06:03Is it because they believe that it's necessary?
0:06:03 > 0:06:06Is it for the love of the animals, the conservation?
0:06:06 > 0:06:08Or is it about status,
0:06:08 > 0:06:11showing how much money you've got to everyone else involved?
0:06:11 > 0:06:13And all in at nine...
0:06:13 > 0:06:14I sold it right here.
0:06:14 > 0:06:18Marc and Jaken's next hunting trip is to South Africa.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20They've invited me along to experience their world
0:06:20 > 0:06:22from the inside.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25Can spending time with them change my mind about hunting
0:06:25 > 0:06:28and could they ever convince me to pick up a gun?
0:06:28 > 0:06:31We're, like, all off on a family trip together.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34I do feel like I'm going to be living the story
0:06:34 > 0:06:36and kind of walking in their shoes.
0:06:36 > 0:06:39So I'll either be a raging vegan...
0:06:41 > 0:06:43..or a gun wielding lunatic. Let's see.
0:06:49 > 0:06:54I've never been hunting before, so I'm not entirely sure what to pack.
0:06:54 > 0:06:56- Hang about, what? - Sam, get off that.
0:06:56 > 0:06:58THEY LAUGH
0:06:58 > 0:07:01So you're going on safari with all these big game hunting killing
0:07:01 > 0:07:05machines and you want to turn in white hot pants
0:07:05 > 0:07:07and a leopard-print bra.
0:07:07 > 0:07:09- "I'm here!"- Surprise!
0:07:09 > 0:07:11"Pass me the gun."
0:07:11 > 0:07:13It's just not my scene
0:07:13 > 0:07:17and not a world that I've ever experienced before.
0:07:17 > 0:07:18No, you'll have to be strong.
0:07:18 > 0:07:22I think you'll see things that you won't be used to.
0:07:22 > 0:07:24She's not going to be fazed by anything,
0:07:24 > 0:07:29but, at the same time, I think she's quite nervous herself, to be honest.
0:07:29 > 0:07:32I'm quite nervous for her, like, it's tough.
0:07:32 > 0:07:33You're walking into the den of,
0:07:33 > 0:07:36like, "Well, what do you mean, you don't understand?"
0:07:36 > 0:07:38- I know.- Where's the picture of me, anyway?
0:07:38 > 0:07:40- There's no picture of you in there, Sam.- No.
0:07:40 > 0:07:42Can you get out of the bag now, ST?
0:07:47 > 0:07:50I'm arriving in Limpopo province.
0:07:50 > 0:07:52It's almost half the size of the UK
0:07:52 > 0:07:54and a popular destination for hunters.
0:07:57 > 0:07:58Thank you.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02Oh, hello.
0:08:02 > 0:08:03My name is Stacey,
0:08:03 > 0:08:05I think you're expecting me.
0:08:05 > 0:08:07Can you open the gate, please?
0:08:07 > 0:08:10Thank you. Bye.
0:08:12 > 0:08:14No-one here can understand my accent.
0:08:19 > 0:08:22My home for the next two weeks is Zulani Safaris,
0:08:22 > 0:08:26a 4,000-acre enclosed game ranch.
0:08:26 > 0:08:28Did you see that? Wildebeest.
0:08:28 > 0:08:31I wonder how long they'll be alive for.
0:08:33 > 0:08:36There are 37 different species of animal here,
0:08:36 > 0:08:40almost all of which can, for a price, be hunted.
0:08:41 > 0:08:44I don't feel like I'm at one with nature, I feel like...
0:08:47 > 0:08:48..I'm in a safari park.
0:08:52 > 0:08:55Waiting for me at the lodge are Marc and Jaken...
0:08:55 > 0:08:57Hello, love, how are you?
0:08:57 > 0:09:01..and also retired ammunitions manufacturer Alan
0:09:01 > 0:09:04and his wife, Janet, from Indiana.
0:09:04 > 0:09:06- What is it that you love about hunting so much?- I just...
0:09:08 > 0:09:10Every time I come, I say I'm not going to get anything,
0:09:10 > 0:09:13"I'm not here, I'm just to see..."
0:09:13 > 0:09:15Cos I used to love watching the animals.
0:09:15 > 0:09:19And then they always talk me into getting one.
0:09:19 > 0:09:21Ah, so what's swayed you?
0:09:21 > 0:09:23- Gordon.- He persuades me every time I'm here.
0:09:23 > 0:09:28- SHE LAUGHS - So I've got four animals now.
0:09:28 > 0:09:30Gordon Brace is the ranch owner.
0:09:30 > 0:09:34He's been hunting for over 50 years.
0:09:34 > 0:09:35For the next fortnight,
0:09:35 > 0:09:39Gordon will be trying to persuade me that what they do as hunters
0:09:39 > 0:09:41- is right.- Hello, hello, everybody.
0:09:41 > 0:09:44- Hi.- You must be Stacey.
0:09:44 > 0:09:45You're Gordon, right?
0:09:45 > 0:09:48- How's things? Nice to meet you. - Likewise, welcome.
0:09:48 > 0:09:50Thank you for having me.
0:09:50 > 0:09:53Before I've even got my coat off, the hard sell begins.
0:09:54 > 0:09:57When I started promoting game farms way back in the late-'70s,
0:09:57 > 0:10:00there were about ten registered game farms in South Africa -
0:10:00 > 0:10:02there's now close on 10,000.
0:10:02 > 0:10:04There were about half a million head of wild game,
0:10:04 > 0:10:08there's now an estimated 18 to 22 million head of game,
0:10:08 > 0:10:11for one reason only - hunting.
0:10:11 > 0:10:18I'm, at this point, quite opposed to the idea of trophy hunting.
0:10:18 > 0:10:19So why?
0:10:19 > 0:10:22It's just the idea of going out and killing
0:10:22 > 0:10:27a lion, you know, these animals are just so vulnerable.
0:10:27 > 0:10:29Immediately you go to the lion because Cecil, right? OK?
0:10:29 > 0:10:33Most people now have the opinions are divorced from nature,
0:10:33 > 0:10:38so divorced from it, that their perception of wildlife
0:10:38 > 0:10:40is the Lion King,
0:10:40 > 0:10:43Bambi, they're humanising these animals.
0:10:43 > 0:10:46It's easy to write on Facebook,
0:10:46 > 0:10:49it's easy to say, "I am an animal lover."
0:10:49 > 0:10:50But I'm not an animal lover.
0:10:50 > 0:10:53I wouldn't particularly describe myself as an animal lover.
0:10:53 > 0:10:57It's just the idea of hunting for trophies.
0:10:57 > 0:10:59To hunt is not a choice -
0:10:59 > 0:11:03it's a need. And not a need in an addictive or negative way,
0:11:03 > 0:11:05God put that in us so we could survive.
0:11:05 > 0:11:08Without that, none of us would be here.
0:11:08 > 0:11:13I can't understand how killing a lion or killing an elephant,
0:11:13 > 0:11:16or killing a rhino, would make somebody feel good.
0:11:16 > 0:11:20I'm not saying, you know, they're an awful person, they're monsters
0:11:20 > 0:11:22and they're going to hell, I just can't understand it.
0:11:22 > 0:11:26- So perhaps spending more time... - I get that.- ..around people,
0:11:26 > 0:11:29like you guys, I will, you know, have concluding thoughts.
0:11:29 > 0:11:31I can't understand rap, but I wouldn't ban it.
0:11:31 > 0:11:34They say in the near future you will be able to choose what type of child
0:11:34 > 0:11:37you want. Let's just say that happens,
0:11:37 > 0:11:40they're going to look at people who have sex as unnatural.
0:11:40 > 0:11:43Well, the instinct to have sex is still going to be there.
0:11:43 > 0:11:44Hunting is exactly the same.
0:11:44 > 0:11:47Killing the animal is like the orgasm,
0:11:47 > 0:11:48but that's not what sex is.
0:11:48 > 0:11:52It's dressing up, it's getting ready, it's getting prepared,
0:11:52 > 0:11:54it's putting on your make-up if you're going out dancing.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57It's after you've made love, you've had the orgasm,
0:11:57 > 0:11:58it's lying and holding each other.
0:11:58 > 0:12:02It's enjoying the moment you've had your orgasm, right?
0:12:02 > 0:12:06So that's what we do in the wild places.
0:12:09 > 0:12:13I just hope this experience isn't going to be as inclusive as that.
0:12:13 > 0:12:16You have to give me the heads up if you see any poisonous snakes.
0:12:18 > 0:12:22The trophy hunting argument can be won every time by logic.
0:12:22 > 0:12:26And I believe that Stacey's an emotional being,
0:12:26 > 0:12:30and people who are emotional entities got their gift, too,
0:12:30 > 0:12:33but I do believe it's clouding her judgment.
0:12:33 > 0:12:35Cool, well, I'll see you guys tomorrow.
0:12:35 > 0:12:37- We'll see you in the morning.- Bye.
0:12:37 > 0:12:39Now, Stacey has said she's come with an open mind
0:12:39 > 0:12:43and it's easy to say that, it's not easy to do it.
0:12:43 > 0:12:46I think her biggest hurdle is going to be actually to put herself
0:12:46 > 0:12:51in our shoes and see where we come from and our environment,
0:12:51 > 0:12:52as opposed to her environment.
0:12:54 > 0:12:57One day in and already I feel under siege.
0:12:59 > 0:13:06At the minute, everything they're passionate about I dislike.
0:13:06 > 0:13:10I feel like they are this established gang...
0:13:12 > 0:13:14..and I'm an outsider.
0:13:14 > 0:13:17It's like cabin fever, you know, I can't leave.
0:13:23 > 0:13:25- Good morning.- Morning, Marc.
0:13:26 > 0:13:27You all right, Jaken?
0:13:28 > 0:13:30This morning I'm nervous.
0:13:30 > 0:13:34Marc and Gordon want to teach me one of the key skills of hunting -
0:13:34 > 0:13:35rifle shooting.
0:13:35 > 0:13:38You take a deep breath, you let your breath out.
0:13:39 > 0:13:42Nice and comfortable. I'm on.
0:13:42 > 0:13:44Take my shot. And I stay down.
0:13:46 > 0:13:48And I'm going to put the target up for you.
0:13:51 > 0:13:53This is my chance to shoot a trophy hunter!
0:13:53 > 0:13:55HE LAUGHS
0:13:58 > 0:14:00Squeeze the trigger. Pull it down.
0:14:02 > 0:14:04Oh, my God! Shit.
0:14:04 > 0:14:06Wow.
0:14:06 > 0:14:08- Did that hurt you?- Little bit.- Yeah?
0:14:08 > 0:14:11- But not unbearably.- All right.
0:14:12 > 0:14:16A key part of Gordon's hunting philosophy is achieving a quick,
0:14:16 > 0:14:20- clean kill.- Most hunters will aim for the shoulder.
0:14:21 > 0:14:24The bullet goes into the shoulder
0:14:24 > 0:14:26and hopefully hits the heart,
0:14:26 > 0:14:28so it's quite a big target.
0:14:28 > 0:14:30That's why very few hunters will mess up.
0:14:30 > 0:14:32- OK.- You ready to go again?
0:14:32 > 0:14:33Yeah.
0:14:38 > 0:14:40Much better.
0:14:40 > 0:14:42Well done.
0:14:43 > 0:14:46- I've done well. - Your first shot was there,
0:14:46 > 0:14:50- your second shot was there. - Oh, so my first was better, really.
0:14:50 > 0:14:54- Yeah.- But it's a good group, so then you can adjust it.
0:14:54 > 0:14:56- At least I've hit the box.- Yes.
0:14:56 > 0:14:57Cos I thought I was going to hit the bush.
0:14:57 > 0:15:00If this was an animal, and his lungs are so big, you've got him.
0:15:02 > 0:15:09Honestly, it's surprised me that I'm doing reasonably well.
0:15:09 > 0:15:11You know, that's exactly what Gordon was after.
0:15:12 > 0:15:16So obviously, now, I think I'm some kind of American sniper.
0:15:17 > 0:15:19I might be enjoying the shooting range,
0:15:19 > 0:15:23but the idea of killing for fun is still leaving me cold.
0:15:23 > 0:15:27When I was in Utah, you should have seen the amounts of money
0:15:27 > 0:15:31these hunters were parting with, I'm talking hundreds of thousands
0:15:31 > 0:15:34in some circumstances, it was quite sickening.
0:15:34 > 0:15:37Why would you use a word like sickening for that?
0:15:37 > 0:15:40- It made me feel sick because... - But those are generous people.
0:15:40 > 0:15:43Those are people who could've bought that same hunt on the average
0:15:43 > 0:15:45market for 10,000 bucks
0:15:45 > 0:15:49and were choosing to spend 350,000 towards conservation.
0:15:49 > 0:15:51How would that be sickening?
0:15:51 > 0:15:55But I can't ignore the fact that I do believe there are some men,
0:15:55 > 0:16:01- it is just about the kill and about bringing home that massive head. - Oh, yeah, 100%, absolutely.
0:16:01 > 0:16:02That's what sickens me.
0:16:02 > 0:16:07The trophy hunting, there are some parts that may not be right,
0:16:07 > 0:16:10but we don't blame a wolf for eating its prey,
0:16:10 > 0:16:14but we blame a human for killing its prey and eating it.
0:16:14 > 0:16:16You're coming from a place where I believe
0:16:16 > 0:16:19you're ignorant of the facts. Your ignorant of what really happens.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22- Mm-hmm.- And it's my job to broaden your horizon a bit.
0:16:24 > 0:16:28But if it injects the amount of income we need to sustain the areas
0:16:28 > 0:16:31for these animals, it's the habitat that we need to save.
0:16:31 > 0:16:33You know, the soil is getting...
0:16:33 > 0:16:35- This land was terribly damaged.- Yeah.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37Now everything's coming back.
0:16:37 > 0:16:39You can see all the trees coming back, the tortoises, the birds,
0:16:39 > 0:16:41everything's coming back.
0:16:41 > 0:16:43For me, it's that.
0:16:43 > 0:16:46- Because of the money generated from trophy hunting?- Yeah.
0:16:53 > 0:16:55Oh, fuck.
0:16:55 > 0:17:01So, my first full day, out here in the bush, and every time you say,
0:17:01 > 0:17:04"Oh, aren't the animals beautiful?" They say, "Well, you know,
0:17:04 > 0:17:07"none of this would exist if it wasn't for trophy hunting."
0:17:07 > 0:17:11It's like their opportunity to remind you that they can justify it.
0:17:11 > 0:17:15And I think, "Well, how much of that is a convenient excuse?"
0:17:15 > 0:17:20Why do they have to kill something just so that they've got this head
0:17:20 > 0:17:24to take home and put on their wall, and show off to their pals about?
0:17:26 > 0:17:30Stacey embraced the shooting today, she looked like she had fun.
0:17:30 > 0:17:35If you have a look at the rifling, and how anti she was guns,
0:17:35 > 0:17:36totally anti-guns and anti-guns and...
0:17:36 > 0:17:38- that's conditioning.- Mmm.
0:17:38 > 0:17:40That's to belong to that club,
0:17:40 > 0:17:42that liberal club, so they all bleat the same cliches,
0:17:42 > 0:17:47and yet, when she picked up the rifle, she started getting into it.
0:17:47 > 0:17:49And when she started shooting, and shooting pretty well,
0:17:49 > 0:17:52it's like, "Wow, I want to do this again. Oh, that's good. Oh!"
0:17:52 > 0:17:53And she got so proud of what she was doing.
0:17:53 > 0:17:57It's like, all of a sudden, there's a different attitude coming here.
0:18:00 > 0:18:04Today I'm witnessing my first hunt on the Zulani plains.
0:18:06 > 0:18:11This time the targets are living and breathing.
0:18:11 > 0:18:14How many animals do you think you've hunted over the years, Alan?
0:18:14 > 0:18:16I... No idea.
0:18:16 > 0:18:18Rough estimate?
0:18:18 > 0:18:21If I had a gun to your head?
0:18:21 > 0:18:23There are two on the van!
0:18:24 > 0:18:27I don't know, 50, 75, total...
0:18:28 > 0:18:30..not counting squirrels and rabbits.
0:18:33 > 0:18:36Alan's paid nearly 1,000 to shoot a wildebeest.
0:18:36 > 0:18:40The first thing to keep in mind - silence.
0:18:40 > 0:18:43He will hear you whispering from 200 yards away.
0:18:43 > 0:18:46We track the animal for two hours.
0:18:46 > 0:18:49I feel like on a school trip that my mum made me come on.
0:18:50 > 0:18:52Then Gordon spots his target.
0:19:02 > 0:19:03(Bring the sticks.)
0:19:17 > 0:19:19Take him.
0:19:28 > 0:19:31GUNSHOTS
0:19:33 > 0:19:37This is not the clean kill that Gordon has talked about.
0:19:39 > 0:19:40Fuck!
0:19:44 > 0:19:46(Do you think you got it?)
0:19:50 > 0:19:53I wanted a good, clean kill and normally this is the man to do it.
0:19:53 > 0:19:56So now we have to track.
0:20:00 > 0:20:02I can tell you're quite stressed.
0:20:02 > 0:20:06Always, on a wounded animal, I'm very single-minded.
0:20:06 > 0:20:10We want to put this animal out of its suffering as quickly as we can.
0:20:10 > 0:20:12- Mmm.- It's...
0:20:13 > 0:20:15I can't pretend this doesn't happen, it does.
0:20:17 > 0:20:20There's now a sense of urgency in air.
0:20:20 > 0:20:22Gordon's gutted, you can tell.
0:20:23 > 0:20:26He's in a state of panic.
0:20:26 > 0:20:31But the reality is we wouldn't be in this position if he wasn't
0:20:31 > 0:20:34facilitating...hunting.
0:20:39 > 0:20:40Why do you think you missed?
0:20:41 > 0:20:44- Shit happens.- Yeah.
0:20:44 > 0:20:45Do you feel bad or...?
0:20:45 > 0:20:47I'm not happy.
0:20:47 > 0:20:51But tracking is part of the experience as much as hunting.
0:20:51 > 0:20:53Using scent dogs and looking for blood spots,
0:20:53 > 0:20:55we try to track the animal.
0:20:56 > 0:20:58Good girl, Bonnie.
0:20:58 > 0:21:01Gordon and his trackers have spotted something.
0:21:01 > 0:21:05We've got blood here, but it's drying up quickly.
0:21:05 > 0:21:07- Where is it?- There.
0:21:07 > 0:21:10Oh, yes. God, how did you spot that?
0:21:13 > 0:21:16Finally, four hours after Alan's first shot...
0:21:16 > 0:21:19GUNSHOTS
0:21:19 > 0:21:23..Gordon puts the wounded animal out of its misery.
0:21:23 > 0:21:25- Oh...- It was a good shot.
0:21:25 > 0:21:28I hit it where it was supposed to.
0:21:29 > 0:21:31And then I gave it a headshot to put...
0:21:31 > 0:21:34to kill it quickly and cleanly.
0:21:34 > 0:21:35Its suffering is over.
0:21:35 > 0:21:38We've taken Alan's mistake and turned it into something positive.
0:21:40 > 0:21:43But I'm struggling to see what's positive
0:21:43 > 0:21:45about the wildebeest's slow death.
0:21:47 > 0:21:49Was it really necessary?
0:21:50 > 0:21:52It is...
0:21:52 > 0:21:55the thrill to kill that so many of these people love,
0:21:55 > 0:22:01you know, it's a bloody, senseless sport.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04They have caused suffering to an animal
0:22:04 > 0:22:08and that's the one thing they say that they hate the most, as hunters.
0:22:12 > 0:22:15This morning I want to see what happens to the animals
0:22:15 > 0:22:16which are killed.
0:22:18 > 0:22:22During hunting season, around ten animals a week are killed at Zulani.
0:22:22 > 0:22:25Foreman Johannes butchers them on-site.
0:22:25 > 0:22:28And the animal that you skin the most?
0:22:33 > 0:22:34Mmm, he's quite big.
0:22:34 > 0:22:37- Yeah, this is quite big.- Yeah.
0:22:39 > 0:22:43Seeing the dead animal up close is pretty gruesome.
0:22:43 > 0:22:44Oh, crumbs.
0:22:44 > 0:22:48Gordon is quick to sell me more benefits of his sport.
0:22:50 > 0:22:53We've got some water back that Alan and Janet harvested.
0:22:53 > 0:22:56This meat will go to the poor kids,
0:22:56 > 0:22:59so it was just a win-win situation all around.
0:22:59 > 0:23:03Alan is also donating the wildebeest from yesterday.
0:23:03 > 0:23:05- That's a lot of meat!- Yep.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11I can't help wondering if this is being put on for my benefit.
0:23:11 > 0:23:15In the last three or four years, almost every hunter that comes,
0:23:15 > 0:23:19international hunters, partakes in the meat for the poor programme.
0:23:19 > 0:23:23Yeah? And do you think that's because they have a conscience
0:23:23 > 0:23:25or do you think that's because
0:23:25 > 0:23:27they're trying to justify their behaviour?
0:23:27 > 0:23:30No, they definitely do it, without exception,
0:23:30 > 0:23:34because they're kind people. They're good-hearted people.
0:23:38 > 0:23:42The village creche has over 140 children, all under five,
0:23:42 > 0:23:45many of whom are orphaned.
0:23:45 > 0:23:46This lady is amazing.
0:23:46 > 0:23:51She tries to do the best she can do with the little that she's got.
0:23:56 > 0:23:59- Hello, how are you?- Hello. - Hi, nice to see you.
0:23:59 > 0:24:00I'm fine and how are you?
0:24:02 > 0:24:04Thank you for having us.
0:24:04 > 0:24:05- You're welcome.- You're the boss.
0:24:05 > 0:24:08- Yeah, I'm the boss.- Ah! OK.
0:24:10 > 0:24:13This is from everybody, OK?
0:24:13 > 0:24:16Thank you very much. You are doing a lot.
0:24:16 > 0:24:17We just wish we could do more.
0:24:19 > 0:24:22Gordon is a good person
0:24:22 > 0:24:27because, to come here and give us something for the children to eat,
0:24:27 > 0:24:29they find that the children are suffering a lot.
0:24:30 > 0:24:34And if the tourists and Gordon didn't bring the meat,
0:24:34 > 0:24:38- the kids would go hungry.- That's it.
0:24:38 > 0:24:41That's it. Very, very, very important.
0:24:46 > 0:24:51It makes you feel so good, doesn't it? Yeah. That's what it's about.
0:24:51 > 0:24:55It doesn't excuse the hours of suffering I witnessed on the hunt,
0:24:55 > 0:24:56but, I must admit,
0:24:56 > 0:24:59something positive has come from the end result.
0:24:59 > 0:25:02Do you know what? Initially, I was quite sceptical
0:25:02 > 0:25:07about them showing me this worthy scene,
0:25:07 > 0:25:09but even if there are ulterior motives,
0:25:09 > 0:25:14the facts are that their meat will feed over 140 kids for a week...
0:25:15 > 0:25:17..and that's far more than I've done.
0:25:17 > 0:25:20Who can argue with meat that feeds kids?
0:25:20 > 0:25:21You can't.
0:25:21 > 0:25:25CHEERING
0:25:28 > 0:25:30You can see that she's taking to it.
0:25:30 > 0:25:33You know, she's getting it, she's understanding,
0:25:33 > 0:25:38you know, what it is about the difference between watching
0:25:38 > 0:25:40something in your lounge on the television
0:25:40 > 0:25:42and actually being out here.
0:25:42 > 0:25:44She can come and see it for herself.
0:25:44 > 0:25:47She can get a little taste of the good that hunting does.
0:25:51 > 0:25:54The only time I've ever seen a bow, and this sounds ridiculous,
0:25:54 > 0:25:56- is you know Robin Hood?- Yeah.
0:25:56 > 0:25:58Super old school.
0:25:58 > 0:26:00Marc and Jaken are bowhunters.
0:26:00 > 0:26:03I'm helping Jaken with his archery practice.
0:26:03 > 0:26:05Oh, my gosh.
0:26:05 > 0:26:09I want to know how a 12-year-old kid becomes such an avid hunter.
0:26:10 > 0:26:11That's just an OK shot at 20.
0:26:11 > 0:26:14I should be doing a little bit better.
0:26:14 > 0:26:16My dad makes me look like a fool.
0:26:16 > 0:26:18He can shoot just as well as me at 60, so...
0:26:18 > 0:26:20Well, he's had more practice than you.
0:26:20 > 0:26:23- Oh, yeah, definitely.- You don't need to beat yourself up about that.
0:26:23 > 0:26:27Your dad, to me, seems very passionate and very disciplined...
0:26:27 > 0:26:31- Yeah.- ..and very dedicated in terms of hunting.
0:26:31 > 0:26:35Is it ever too much? Is it a bit like, "All right, Dad, like...
0:26:35 > 0:26:38- "Steady on"?- There is every now and then, when it's a little like,
0:26:38 > 0:26:41"OK, Dad, that's enough now."
0:26:41 > 0:26:44I think, if I stopped hunting, he would be accepting
0:26:44 > 0:26:45but also he would be disappointed.
0:26:45 > 0:26:49It's really cool for him that he's having his children hunting -
0:26:49 > 0:26:50that was his dream.
0:26:52 > 0:26:56Marc's preparing Jaken to try and shoot his first ever wildebeest.
0:26:57 > 0:27:02The animal deserves for you to be confident because, remember,
0:27:02 > 0:27:07I think animals know more clearly than we do that they have a destiny
0:27:07 > 0:27:09to eventually be eaten by someone.
0:27:09 > 0:27:12And you are that someone that can harvest them with respect
0:27:12 > 0:27:14and reverence and speed.
0:27:14 > 0:27:18And I want you to tap into that part in your heart that knows
0:27:18 > 0:27:19he deserves your best.
0:27:19 > 0:27:21- You hear me?- Mm-hmm.- OK.
0:27:21 > 0:27:24Marc's also increasing the pressure on me
0:27:24 > 0:27:26to play an active role in today's hunt.
0:27:26 > 0:27:30If you're going to be that person the rest of your life that hires
0:27:30 > 0:27:31your killer with your cheque book,
0:27:31 > 0:27:38then you owe it to yourself to try that other side of things and know
0:27:38 > 0:27:40what at least you're asking somebody to do for you.
0:27:40 > 0:27:43I'm conflicted. I feel like you're right.
0:27:43 > 0:27:47I want to have the balls to, you know,
0:27:47 > 0:27:50take part in something that
0:27:50 > 0:27:52I do eat a lot of the time,
0:27:52 > 0:27:54but I don't want to do something I'm going to regret.
0:27:54 > 0:27:58I don't want to look down the barrel, shoot something in the head,
0:27:58 > 0:28:00and then immediately think, "Fuck, why have I done that?
0:28:00 > 0:28:01"I didn't want to do it."
0:28:03 > 0:28:06I treat her in a lot of ways as I would with my son -
0:28:06 > 0:28:08that she may or may not hunt.
0:28:08 > 0:28:11I don't honestly think Stacey will know until she tries,
0:28:11 > 0:28:13so I will encourage her to do that.
0:28:13 > 0:28:15But we'll see.
0:28:15 > 0:28:18Is this the day that I shoot a guinea fowl?
0:28:19 > 0:28:21Who knows? I don't know.
0:28:21 > 0:28:24I'm not going to be pressured or forced into doing something
0:28:24 > 0:28:26that I'm not entirely sure about.
0:28:30 > 0:28:32Marc puts Jaken in position first
0:28:32 > 0:28:36and I'm relieved that I don't have to target any animals just yet.
0:28:36 > 0:28:39(If the brush was clear, could you shoot out of it?)
0:28:39 > 0:28:41- (Yeah, I think so.)- (You think so?)
0:28:41 > 0:28:43- (Yeah.) - (I need to know whether you can.)
0:28:45 > 0:28:46(Yeah, I can.)
0:28:48 > 0:28:52With us in a hide, the animal's coming close.
0:28:52 > 0:28:55Gordon masks our scent by burning dry dung.
0:28:55 > 0:28:57(What is that, Gordon?)
0:29:06 > 0:29:09After a long wait, a wildebeest comes into view.
0:29:15 > 0:29:16(This is range.)
0:29:24 > 0:29:26(Really tight on the shoulder.)
0:29:55 > 0:29:56(It's OK. It's OK.)
0:30:08 > 0:30:10(Come here. It's OK.)
0:30:11 > 0:30:13(It's OK.)
0:30:13 > 0:30:16Jaken has missed the animal's vital organs,
0:30:16 > 0:30:20making the quick kill he'd been hoping for very unlikely.
0:30:20 > 0:30:22(I just felt like I wasn't really prepared,
0:30:22 > 0:30:26(I felt like I didn't really focus that well,
0:30:26 > 0:30:30(so I could have focused better and done a better trigger squeeze.)
0:30:30 > 0:30:31(Yeah.)
0:30:34 > 0:30:37(Try not to get yourself so worked up.)
0:30:37 > 0:30:39(Yeah.)
0:30:39 > 0:30:42- (So, are you going to have to finish him off?)- (Yes.)
0:30:47 > 0:30:51Two hunts, two wounded wildebeest, and no clean kills.
0:30:51 > 0:30:54Once more, it's down to Gordon and his trackers.
0:30:55 > 0:31:01I just instinctively felt really sorry for Jaken,
0:31:01 > 0:31:04my heart went out to him, because he is 12 years old,
0:31:04 > 0:31:09and his dad has installed this passion
0:31:09 > 0:31:14and this love for hunting into him from a very, very young age.
0:31:16 > 0:31:19So I think he must feel the pressure.
0:31:19 > 0:31:21(I want you to know that it's part of being a hunter...)
0:31:24 > 0:31:27(..and I'm sorry you're having to deal with it.)
0:31:29 > 0:31:31The wildebeest is not found.
0:31:31 > 0:31:34After several hours, the search is abandoned.
0:31:34 > 0:31:38I'm so pleased I didn't bow to the pressure to shoot something.
0:31:38 > 0:31:42It's something that we don't ever want to happen...
0:31:42 > 0:31:46Well, if you hadn't have shot him in the first place,
0:31:46 > 0:31:48- you wouldn't be in this position. - Right.
0:31:48 > 0:31:50Yep, I get it.
0:31:56 > 0:32:01(I feel for Jaken. I think he puts you on this pedestal, you know?)
0:32:01 > 0:32:03(My question to him tonight,
0:32:03 > 0:32:06(when we have quiet and everybody else goes away, is,
0:32:06 > 0:32:08("Bud, are you OK enough to do this with me again?")
0:32:08 > 0:32:13- (Yeah.)- And if he said no, I'd say, "OK, I gotcha. I get it."
0:32:17 > 0:32:21Marc and I had a difficult day today.
0:32:21 > 0:32:24It was a bit more strained than it is normally.
0:32:26 > 0:32:32It kind of made me realise how huge a deal it was for Jaken.
0:32:32 > 0:32:33He's very a sensitive kid
0:32:33 > 0:32:36but he belongs to this controversial...
0:32:39 > 0:32:40..gang.
0:32:41 > 0:32:44I'm halfway through my time on the ranch.
0:32:46 > 0:32:49Today, Gordon wants to introduce me to a friend,
0:32:49 > 0:32:53which means a welcome break from hunting.
0:32:53 > 0:32:54Look at this!
0:32:54 > 0:32:56It's like a prison.
0:32:56 > 0:32:58Because of its precious residents,
0:32:58 > 0:33:01the whereabouts of this ranch are a closely guarded secret.
0:33:01 > 0:33:04Hello. How are you?
0:33:04 > 0:33:05I'm Stacey. How's things?
0:33:05 > 0:33:07- Hi, Stacey.- Lovely to meet you.
0:33:07 > 0:33:09Lovely to meet you, too.
0:33:09 > 0:33:12- So, Gordon, I'll see you later. - Catch you later.- Thank you.
0:33:15 > 0:33:20Sylvia breeds rhinos, which are under constant threat from poachers.
0:33:20 > 0:33:22There's a baby.
0:33:22 > 0:33:26Oh, my God, look at this little rhino.
0:33:26 > 0:33:28Oh, Sylvia, this is such a treat.
0:33:29 > 0:33:32Sylvia spends thousands of dollars each week
0:33:32 > 0:33:35protecting their endangered rhinos from armed intruders.
0:33:35 > 0:33:38It sounds like sometimes you live in fear.
0:33:38 > 0:33:41- You do.- Is it worth it? I mean, why do you do it?
0:33:42 > 0:33:44You just love these animals.
0:33:44 > 0:33:45They're your children
0:33:45 > 0:33:48and, if it's yours, you defend it.
0:33:48 > 0:33:52And, actually, you're part of conservation.
0:33:52 > 0:33:54She doesn't permit hunting on her sanctuary,
0:33:54 > 0:33:56but, as a conservationist,
0:33:56 > 0:33:59her take on the industry isn't what I was expecting.
0:33:59 > 0:34:02Hunting in conservation is very, very important.
0:34:02 > 0:34:05So you have no issue with hunting?
0:34:05 > 0:34:08I don't like hunting but I don't see...
0:34:08 > 0:34:11There's nothing wrong with hunting because the animals,
0:34:11 > 0:34:16their numbers get too many, so you have to take out some of them.
0:34:16 > 0:34:19And you're actually taking that money that you're getting
0:34:19 > 0:34:22for the hunting to put back in your conservation.
0:34:24 > 0:34:28It's one thing getting the conservation argument from hunters,
0:34:28 > 0:34:31but from someone devoted to protecting rhinos
0:34:31 > 0:34:33is a different matter.
0:34:33 > 0:34:38Every experience I encounter here...I'm torn.
0:34:38 > 0:34:42I understand that the revenue is necessary,
0:34:42 > 0:34:45what I don't understand is the desire
0:34:45 > 0:34:50to want to come all this way just to kill a huge animal.
0:34:52 > 0:34:55Back at the lodge, our dinner includes wildebeest
0:34:55 > 0:34:56harvested from Zulani.
0:34:56 > 0:35:00This is a traditional South African...
0:35:00 > 0:35:02- Potjie. - Potjie pot, it's called.
0:35:02 > 0:35:04Everybody has their own secret recipe of how to make it.
0:35:04 > 0:35:07- This is mine.- It's a top secret.
0:35:09 > 0:35:13Gordon says around 20% of his 3,000 animals
0:35:13 > 0:35:15are shot by hunters each year,
0:35:15 > 0:35:19but the money they pay supports the wellbeing of the rest.
0:35:19 > 0:35:22You know, you said yourself that you thought it was about lions and
0:35:22 > 0:35:24leopards and elephants, and so on.
0:35:24 > 0:35:27That's actually a very small part of the trophy hunting.
0:35:27 > 0:35:30The vast majority come here for plains game.
0:35:30 > 0:35:32And, yes, they are trophy animals,
0:35:32 > 0:35:36and it's a double whammy because we get that income that we need
0:35:36 > 0:35:39to survive, to be able to have a place like this.
0:35:39 > 0:35:43When you give it value, then people are going to take care of it.
0:35:43 > 0:35:46And with all the hoo-ha now about lions...
0:35:46 > 0:35:49yes, if there are areas where lions are endangered,
0:35:49 > 0:35:53I think every single hunter I know would be first in line to say,
0:35:53 > 0:35:54"Let's do something to stop this.
0:35:54 > 0:35:56"Let's take care of these animals."
0:35:56 > 0:35:58Because it's not in our interests
0:35:58 > 0:36:00to wipe out the animals that we live on.
0:36:00 > 0:36:03I mean, you make valid points,
0:36:03 > 0:36:07but isn't the reality that it's more about the thrill of the kill,
0:36:07 > 0:36:09the excitement, the adrenaline?
0:36:09 > 0:36:10Most people are urbanised.
0:36:10 > 0:36:12They live in the concrete jungle.
0:36:12 > 0:36:14They are so divorced from nature.
0:36:14 > 0:36:18They haven't a clue about the reality of nature
0:36:18 > 0:36:21and what it is to be in the natural places.
0:36:21 > 0:36:24We do, as I say, more for wildlife than they will ever do.
0:36:26 > 0:36:28And do we enjoy doing it? Do we get a thrill out of it? Yes.
0:36:28 > 0:36:30But it's not just the kill.
0:36:30 > 0:36:39Gordon has actually made this as pleasant as possible.
0:36:39 > 0:36:42I'll get home and everyone will say, "Oh, were they all lunatics?
0:36:42 > 0:36:44"Were they all nutters?"
0:36:44 > 0:36:45And, actually, no...
0:36:47 > 0:36:48I don't think they are.
0:36:52 > 0:36:56I want to check up on how Jaken's feeling after his traumatic hunt.
0:36:58 > 0:37:02Do you feel like you'd like to have another shot
0:37:02 > 0:37:04at perhaps shooting another animal?
0:37:04 > 0:37:08Yeah, oh, yeah. I probably will still, but...
0:37:08 > 0:37:11- Yeah.- You won't let this affect you?
0:37:11 > 0:37:13No. It happens, so...
0:37:13 > 0:37:14Yeah.
0:37:15 > 0:37:16Yeah.
0:37:20 > 0:37:22I'm joining Gordon and some of his regulars
0:37:22 > 0:37:26on a hunt for one of Africa's most iconic species.
0:37:27 > 0:37:29We rock and roll.
0:37:37 > 0:37:39(We have a zebra in front of us.
0:37:39 > 0:37:43(He's going to try and see if he can get it.)
0:37:43 > 0:37:45Gordon wants me to see first-hand
0:37:45 > 0:37:47how hunting can help conserve wildlife.
0:37:58 > 0:37:59(Reload. Reload.)
0:38:05 > 0:38:07(There was a lot of dust.
0:38:07 > 0:38:11(Normally that means it's down and it's in its death throes now...)
0:38:11 > 0:38:14- (Really?)- (..and it's more than likely dead now.)
0:38:18 > 0:38:19(It's down.)
0:38:19 > 0:38:22(Oh, gosh, yeah, it is.)
0:38:22 > 0:38:26Good, clean, more than likely a hotshot.
0:38:26 > 0:38:28He hasn't suffered at all.
0:38:28 > 0:38:29It's hard to witness,
0:38:29 > 0:38:33but Gordon says he earns over £6,500 dollars a year
0:38:33 > 0:38:35from zebra hunts alone,
0:38:35 > 0:38:38with most of that money ploughed back into the reserve and animals.
0:38:38 > 0:38:41You know, I've got a herd of about 60-plus zebra here
0:38:41 > 0:38:43and we'll harvest maybe six a year.
0:38:43 > 0:38:46- Sure.- And those six a year ensure their survival,
0:38:46 > 0:38:49but again it comes down to it's not just for the zebra,
0:38:49 > 0:38:51it's for the birds, the dung beetles, the plants,
0:38:51 > 0:38:56the trees. Everything that lives in this habitat, this ecosystem now,
0:38:56 > 0:38:58has a place to be where it's supposed to be and thrive
0:38:58 > 0:39:01because he has taken out one animal,
0:39:01 > 0:39:03and he will pay for that.
0:39:05 > 0:39:06- Yes.- OK.
0:39:08 > 0:39:10Now that is what we call a textbook shot.
0:39:13 > 0:39:16It's beautiful. Well done.
0:39:20 > 0:39:23- How are you feeling? - I'm proud of my husband.
0:39:23 > 0:39:25I'm happy when it's a good shoot.
0:39:25 > 0:39:26It's a clean hunt, you know.
0:39:26 > 0:39:29The animal doesn't suffer, it's the circle of life.
0:39:30 > 0:39:32Nothing lives for ever.
0:39:35 > 0:39:37No, please, I want to take picture with you.
0:39:37 > 0:39:40Please, I'd be very grateful. It'd be so nice.
0:39:40 > 0:39:42Erm...
0:39:43 > 0:39:45I'll take the picture for you.
0:39:45 > 0:39:48I'll take it. THEY LAUGH
0:39:51 > 0:39:53Thank you very much.
0:39:53 > 0:39:55You're welcome.
0:39:55 > 0:39:58After nearly two weeks on the hunting lodge,
0:39:58 > 0:40:01my reactions to what I'm seeing are starting to change.
0:40:02 > 0:40:06I have been around the same group of people,
0:40:06 > 0:40:11bombarding me with their rhetoric, which is quite compelling.
0:40:11 > 0:40:15There are certain elements
0:40:15 > 0:40:16that are hard to disagree with.
0:40:16 > 0:40:24I just never really anticipated that I would actually see
0:40:24 > 0:40:25the killing of a zebra,
0:40:25 > 0:40:30and it's bizarre cos you kind of take stock and you think,
0:40:30 > 0:40:35"Hang on a second, this is all becoming very normal."
0:40:35 > 0:40:40You know, I feel that I'm sort of becoming almost desensitised.
0:40:44 > 0:40:48Today, Gordon's decided it's time for me to shoot my first animal.
0:40:50 > 0:40:57I feel like I want to have the balls to, sort of,
0:40:57 > 0:41:00stick to my word and stay true to what I believe,
0:41:00 > 0:41:02in the sense, you know, I do eat meat.
0:41:02 > 0:41:08But then I just know, if the opportunity presents itself...
0:41:08 > 0:41:11I will struggle, there will be conflict.
0:41:11 > 0:41:15He's selected one of the smallest huntable creatures here.
0:41:16 > 0:41:19Guinea fowl, as I say, it's exceptionally good.
0:41:19 > 0:41:22And in terms of size, it's like a chicken or turkey, right?
0:41:22 > 0:41:25Yeah, it's a wild chicken. It's just a wild chicken, yeah.
0:41:27 > 0:41:28Just drop... There we go.
0:41:29 > 0:41:31I mean, you've already shown on the shooting range
0:41:31 > 0:41:34that you can shoot well.
0:41:34 > 0:41:36You've just now got to put that into practice.
0:41:42 > 0:41:46(We're going to go in there and just see how it goes down
0:41:46 > 0:41:50(and what she feels - is she a hunter or is she a gatherer?)
0:41:55 > 0:41:59Gordon spots a flock and it's action stations.
0:41:59 > 0:42:01(Come quickly, quickly, quickly.
0:42:01 > 0:42:03(They're going next to a...)
0:42:03 > 0:42:05My heart is pounding.
0:42:08 > 0:42:10Am I going to be able to pull that trigger?
0:42:13 > 0:42:16(Fuck!) HE LAUGHS
0:42:16 > 0:42:18- (He flew off.) - Yeah, he flew off, yeah.
0:42:21 > 0:42:22(Come lie on your tummy.)
0:42:23 > 0:42:26I'm trying to remember everything Gordon's taught me
0:42:26 > 0:42:28about staying dead quiet.
0:42:31 > 0:42:33- CHATTER FROM PHONE - (Shit!)
0:42:39 > 0:42:42(Rule number one, turn off the damn phone!)
0:42:44 > 0:42:47I get one more chance.
0:42:47 > 0:42:48(Take my shoulder.)
0:42:55 > 0:42:58- Ah, shit. - HE LAUGHS
0:43:02 > 0:43:05Do I think I've got that killing instinct?
0:43:05 > 0:43:07No, because...
0:43:08 > 0:43:10This is the least favourite part for me.
0:43:10 > 0:43:12I genuinely feel like I have
0:43:12 > 0:43:16- truly experienced what you guys experience...- I think so.
0:43:16 > 0:43:18..just before you're about to pull the trigger -
0:43:18 > 0:43:21the heart racing, the dry mouth, the adrenaline,
0:43:21 > 0:43:25- the dread.- Yeah. You come from such a totally different world.
0:43:25 > 0:43:27You've come more than halfway, I think.
0:43:27 > 0:43:30And as I keep saying, it's not just about the kill.
0:43:30 > 0:43:32I mean, these animals belong here.
0:43:33 > 0:43:38You know, if hunting is the reason for this, bring it on.
0:43:39 > 0:43:44Stacey has been a pleasant surprise for me.
0:43:44 > 0:43:46She hasn't stood from a distance and judged us.
0:43:46 > 0:43:49She's actually come in and walked in our shoes for a while
0:43:49 > 0:43:51and seen what we do,
0:43:51 > 0:43:53and that's the most I can ask for. So, you know...
0:43:53 > 0:43:57And I've grown to be very fond of Stacey and...
0:43:57 > 0:43:58I hope the feeling is mutual.
0:44:04 > 0:44:08Oh, guys. THEY LAUGH
0:44:08 > 0:44:11After two weeks on the ranch, it's time to bid farewell
0:44:11 > 0:44:14to my hunting family.
0:44:14 > 0:44:16- Gordon.- Yes, yes. - SHE LAUGHS
0:44:16 > 0:44:18Thank you for coming.
0:44:18 > 0:44:22Thank you. Thanks for your patience and thanks for your honesty.
0:44:24 > 0:44:26- Right back at you. - I really appreciate it.
0:44:27 > 0:44:29We're going to miss you, for sure.
0:44:32 > 0:44:34Take care. Thank you.
0:44:34 > 0:44:35Thank you, too.
0:44:40 > 0:44:44I'm leaving with fond memories of the people I've met,
0:44:44 > 0:44:47but I also won't forget the unnecessary suffering of animals
0:44:47 > 0:44:49I've seen caused by hunting.
0:44:50 > 0:44:54Obviously, at the start of this whole experience,
0:44:54 > 0:44:57I had a very definite set of opinions.
0:44:57 > 0:45:00You know, the idea that people would come all of this way
0:45:00 > 0:45:02to try and find the biggest animal
0:45:02 > 0:45:06and shoot its face off and then hang the head on their wall
0:45:06 > 0:45:09was so foreign to me...
0:45:09 > 0:45:10and it still is.
0:45:10 > 0:45:13What I do accept is that it's quite a complicated issue
0:45:13 > 0:45:15and some of their arguments are compelling.
0:45:15 > 0:45:18It's difficult to go against someone when they're saying,
0:45:18 > 0:45:22"If trophy hunting didn't exist, none of this would be here."
0:45:22 > 0:45:25Killing what you then go on to eat, I can't argue with that.
0:45:25 > 0:45:28Donating food to kids that otherwise wouldn't eat,
0:45:28 > 0:45:29who on earth can argue with that?
0:45:29 > 0:45:31But...
0:45:31 > 0:45:34yeah, I'm still not team trophy hunter, I'm afraid.