0:00:02 > 0:00:04If that family looks on the Sex Offenders' Registry,
0:00:04 > 0:00:06which is online, under Megan's Law,
0:00:06 > 0:00:10they will see a photo of you and it would say,
0:00:10 > 0:00:13- "offences committed"...- I don't know whether that's true or not.
0:00:13 > 0:00:17It will say, "offences committed on an under 14-year-old child."
0:00:17 > 0:00:20- See, OK, well, erm... - I...I looked at it myself.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22When...? How recently did you look, because...?
0:00:22 > 0:00:25Last week. In fact, I have an app on my phone.
0:00:25 > 0:00:28- There's an app called Offender Locator.- OK.
0:00:29 > 0:00:31Yeah, that's me.
0:00:31 > 0:00:33This programme contains strong language
0:00:33 > 0:00:35and scenes which some viewers may find disturbing.
0:00:39 > 0:00:43For several months, I'd been spending time in the twilight world
0:00:43 > 0:00:46of Los Angeles' paroled sex offenders.
0:00:46 > 0:00:49NEWS REPORTER: Take a good look at him. According to the most recent
0:00:49 > 0:00:51update on the registered sex offender website,
0:00:51 > 0:00:54he's 5' 11", with brown hair and blue eyes.
0:00:54 > 0:00:56The serious nature of their crimes
0:00:56 > 0:01:00has placed them outside normal society
0:01:00 > 0:01:04and controlled by some of the most restrictive legislation in America.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07NEWS REPORTER: Shock, outrage -
0:01:07 > 0:01:1133-year-old Amy Beck spent months having sexual relations
0:01:11 > 0:01:13with a 14-year-old boy.
0:01:13 > 0:01:16So you have to wear that all the time?
0:01:16 > 0:01:21I mean, you can cut it off, but you would go to jail.
0:01:21 > 0:01:22State parole.
0:01:22 > 0:01:24'I was curious about the lives
0:01:24 > 0:01:27'and mentality of these modern-day pariahs...'
0:01:27 > 0:01:30Do you ever worry that having done that once,
0:01:30 > 0:01:31that you could do it again?
0:01:31 > 0:01:34- That that might still be in you in some way?- No.
0:01:34 > 0:01:35- Why?- Cos it's not in me.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40'..the danger they present to the public
0:01:40 > 0:01:43'and the fraught question of when, if ever,
0:01:43 > 0:01:46'a sex offender deserves a second chance.'
0:02:06 > 0:02:08- Hello there. - Hi, good afternoon, how are you?
0:02:08 > 0:02:10- You must be Craig?- I am.- Louis.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13- Louis, nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you, too.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16'I was with Craig Prentice.
0:02:16 > 0:02:18'Craig is a manager at Pathways,
0:02:18 > 0:02:20'a private housing company that provides
0:02:20 > 0:02:24'accommodation for registered sex offenders, often called 290s.
0:02:26 > 0:02:29'We were about to meet a new arrival.'
0:02:29 > 0:02:32I'll meet you formally. My name is Craig, nice to meet you.
0:02:32 > 0:02:36- William.- William. So, I'm just going to take a quick seat right here.
0:02:36 > 0:02:40- So, I'll get you logged in. What's your first name?- William.
0:02:40 > 0:02:44The most important thing I can tell you is to think
0:02:44 > 0:02:47and to exist compliantly.
0:02:47 > 0:02:50If there's any questions you... you want me to answer,
0:02:50 > 0:02:52you can go ahead and fire away.
0:02:52 > 0:02:55- What about clothes and stuff or...? - You need clothes?- Yes, sir.
0:02:55 > 0:02:57You don't have any friends or family to help you right now?
0:02:57 > 0:03:01Erm, I been out here... I'm out here by myself.
0:03:01 > 0:03:04OK, no problem. I'll put together a roll of toilet paper,
0:03:04 > 0:03:07a razor and stuff like that, so you can get cleaned up.
0:03:07 > 0:03:11Our job is to make your landing as soft as possible.
0:03:11 > 0:03:14We don't want you to feel like you're coming down on top of cement,
0:03:14 > 0:03:16we want you to feel like you're coming down
0:03:16 > 0:03:18and you've got a little cushion.
0:03:18 > 0:03:22We've been here, we're in place to accept you guys, to support you guys
0:03:22 > 0:03:26and to give you guys the best chance at getting your life back in society.
0:03:26 > 0:03:30- So you were in jail last night? - Yes, sir.
0:03:30 > 0:03:33- You got out this morning? - This morning.
0:03:33 > 0:03:34How do you feel?
0:03:34 > 0:03:38I feel good, I'm out again. I'm...I'm on the street again,
0:03:38 > 0:03:41- I'm free again.- And are you a 290?
0:03:41 > 0:03:43- Yes, sir.- For what?
0:03:43 > 0:03:46They caught me pissing in public and they just wrote it up like that.
0:03:46 > 0:03:50- Is that a charge that's called indecent exposure?- Yes, sir...
0:03:50 > 0:03:52- OK.- ..indecent exposure.- OK.
0:03:52 > 0:03:55We appreciate it, thanks a lot, William. Good luck.
0:03:56 > 0:03:59When William said that he'd been put on the register
0:03:59 > 0:04:05for urinating publicly, do you suppose that's true?
0:04:09 > 0:04:15IF it's true, it's probably true because it happened separately
0:04:15 > 0:04:18for what he's currently on parole from.
0:04:18 > 0:04:22In my experience,
0:04:22 > 0:04:26I'm quite certain that there's more to his story than just...
0:04:29 > 0:04:32When you get the details on these guys,
0:04:32 > 0:04:35- do they tell you what they, what their...- Some do. Some.
0:04:35 > 0:04:38- ..offences are?- If I'm concerned,
0:04:38 > 0:04:43I just ask the Department of Parole, "What is this guy's issues?
0:04:43 > 0:04:46"What was he convicted of? What are his hot and colds?
0:04:46 > 0:04:49"What do we need to look out for? "What are his triggers?"
0:04:49 > 0:04:51What are hot and colds?
0:04:51 > 0:04:56Hot and colds are things that occur that affect the personality
0:04:56 > 0:04:58of a person, to go up and down.
0:05:00 > 0:05:04- Now, I know you have your own offence history...- Yes, I do.
0:05:04 > 0:05:07..and that's something you're happy to go into
0:05:07 > 0:05:10or willing to go into, at some point with us.
0:05:10 > 0:05:12Yes, we'll cover all of that, absolutely.
0:05:14 > 0:05:16So...
0:05:17 > 0:05:21..that's something that we can mark on our, in our,
0:05:21 > 0:05:25appointment book, that would be a future sit down for us.
0:05:27 > 0:05:30We will rev... We will reveal what we reveal.
0:05:35 > 0:05:39Under California law, sex offenders on parole from prison
0:05:39 > 0:05:42can't live near places where children gather
0:05:42 > 0:05:45and so much of Pathways' housing is in clusters
0:05:45 > 0:05:47away from schools and parks.
0:05:50 > 0:05:54Craig's two hostels are in Torrance.
0:05:54 > 0:05:57They are a way station for 290s whose crimes range
0:05:57 > 0:06:01from indecent exposure to rape and child molestation.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06Here, they lead monitored lives.
0:06:06 > 0:06:09Under Megan's Law, they're listed on a public database.
0:06:09 > 0:06:13They're also tracked by GPS, and subject to strict curfews.
0:06:16 > 0:06:18- Hi.- Hi.- James?- Yes.- How you doing?
0:06:18 > 0:06:22Can we look at the house rules, cos they're posted on the door?
0:06:22 > 0:06:23That's, kind of, interesting.
0:06:23 > 0:06:27"No women - there is zero tolerance on this subject.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30"No wives. No exceptions."
0:06:30 > 0:06:33When you came out of prison, how did you end up here?
0:06:33 > 0:06:35I cannot live with my mom,
0:06:35 > 0:06:38I cannot live with my grandma at their residence at that time,
0:06:38 > 0:06:42because of the... Too, too close to the schools, basically.
0:06:42 > 0:06:43Are you a 290?
0:06:43 > 0:06:45Yeah, 290, right here, yeah.
0:06:45 > 0:06:49You can see, you got the leg charger here, plug it in.
0:06:49 > 0:06:52You have to charge an hour and then it turns... The light turns green.
0:06:52 > 0:06:54Lead on.
0:06:56 > 0:06:59'Most 290s don't talk about their crimes,
0:06:59 > 0:07:03'but there are exceptions. One was Randy Wickham.'
0:07:03 > 0:07:06- You have an offence history?- Yes.
0:07:06 > 0:07:09- Which is what? - Erm, indecent exposure.
0:07:09 > 0:07:13I would expose myself to women and,
0:07:13 > 0:07:16erm, you know, I'd just... I've been...
0:07:16 > 0:07:19I've been doing that since I was nine years old.
0:07:19 > 0:07:22How many stretches did you do inside?
0:07:22 > 0:07:28Erm, 15 new charges and eight parole violations, about, approximately.
0:07:28 > 0:07:33- 15 separate new charges? - Indecent exposure.
0:07:33 > 0:07:36It's an uncontrollable urge to do this?
0:07:37 > 0:07:40Well, pretty much. It's...
0:07:41 > 0:07:45I get up in the morning and I say to myself, "OK, I'm going to go
0:07:45 > 0:07:49"from point A to point B and I'm not going to have any incidents
0:07:49 > 0:07:52"or urges. I'm not going to do this today, I've set my mind to it."
0:07:52 > 0:07:58But what happens is, erm, I see a pretty woman that attracts me,
0:07:58 > 0:08:00for some reason or other, her face usually,
0:08:00 > 0:08:05and I, erm, I detour, you know?
0:08:05 > 0:08:10And at that point, it's like tunnel vision -
0:08:10 > 0:08:13I don't see to the left or the right, I just see that pretty face,
0:08:13 > 0:08:16you know, and I want the attention.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19You know, I want to be noticed. It's like I exist, you know?
0:08:19 > 0:08:20I'm... You know?
0:08:20 > 0:08:24Do you feel as though those restrictions that are placed
0:08:24 > 0:08:28on you help you to, kind of,
0:08:28 > 0:08:30keep to the straight and narrow?
0:08:30 > 0:08:37The only way I can respond to that is if I'm being forced to do something,
0:08:37 > 0:08:42OK, rather than doing it because I know it's best for me
0:08:42 > 0:08:48and best for public safety and welfare, that's one thing.
0:08:48 > 0:08:50But if someone else is placing restrictions on me,
0:08:50 > 0:08:54so many of these restrictions, that it becomes almost unbearable.
0:08:54 > 0:08:58I feel inhuman. I feel like an animal.
0:08:58 > 0:09:00In your whole adult life,
0:09:00 > 0:09:04what's the longest you've been outside of either prison
0:09:04 > 0:09:05or jail or a mental hospital?
0:09:09 > 0:09:16I think three and a half years, when I was 22 years old.
0:09:16 > 0:09:19I don't want to be a dirty old man any more doing this kind of stuff,
0:09:19 > 0:09:23you know? It's just...I don't want to go back to prison any more.
0:09:23 > 0:09:26I don't want to waste my life, it's already been wasted enough.
0:09:32 > 0:09:36DRUMMING
0:09:38 > 0:09:42A short walk from the Pathways hostels, in Harbour Gateway,
0:09:42 > 0:09:47it was a day of celebration, the area's first park was opening,
0:09:47 > 0:09:51built with the primary purpose of driving out sex offenders.
0:09:52 > 0:09:56Under Jessica's Law, all 290s, even those not on parole,
0:09:56 > 0:10:00are supposed to live more than half a mile from any park.
0:10:00 > 0:10:03In theory, the hostels would now be illegal.
0:10:05 > 0:10:10Today is finally here and we get to give the Gateway
0:10:10 > 0:10:13what they deserve and what our children deserve -
0:10:13 > 0:10:16their first pocket park in this area.
0:10:16 > 0:10:17APPLAUSE
0:10:17 > 0:10:22And let me tell you, this may be the smallest park
0:10:22 > 0:10:23in the city of Los Angeles,
0:10:23 > 0:10:26but it's the most powerful park in the city of Los Angeles.
0:10:26 > 0:10:29CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:10:29 > 0:10:31'One of the proponents of the idea
0:10:31 > 0:10:35'was LA city councilman Joe Buscaino.'
0:10:35 > 0:10:37I heard you describe the park as the smallest,
0:10:37 > 0:10:40and yet the most powerful park in the city, explain that to me.
0:10:40 > 0:10:45Powerful, because it goes hand in hand with the high concentration
0:10:45 > 0:10:49of registered sex offenders...without a doubt.
0:10:49 > 0:10:53And we have proven today, we can accomplish a great deal
0:10:53 > 0:10:56and we're just getting warmed up, Louis.
0:10:56 > 0:10:57We're just getting warmed up.
0:10:57 > 0:11:01All right, folks, let's head on over for the ribbon...
0:11:01 > 0:11:03'But there was a wrinkle in the plan -
0:11:03 > 0:11:07'a county judge had ruled Jessica's Law was, in fact, unconstitutional.
0:11:10 > 0:11:13'For now, the park would have no legal effect.
0:11:13 > 0:11:15'Residents had vowed to fight on.
0:11:21 > 0:11:23'Those sex offenders who can afford it,
0:11:23 > 0:11:25'can find homes outside of the hostels,
0:11:25 > 0:11:28'in housing away from schools and approved by parole.'
0:11:31 > 0:11:33NEWS REPORTER: Shock, outrage.
0:11:33 > 0:11:36Burbank PD confirms 33-year-old Amy Beck,
0:11:36 > 0:11:40a social science teacher at David Starr Jordan Middle School,
0:11:40 > 0:11:45spent months having sexual relations with a 14-year-old boy last year.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48A grown woman, young child, doesn't make much sense.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51- What do you think? - Oh, that's not good.
0:11:53 > 0:11:57'Amy Beck served a year in prison for unlawful sexual intercourse
0:11:57 > 0:11:58'with an underage boy.
0:12:00 > 0:12:04'She was now on parole, listed on the Megan's Law database,
0:12:04 > 0:12:07'and subject to strict rules about where she could and couldn't go.'
0:12:10 > 0:12:13- Hi, Amy.- Hi.- Louis. - Nice to meet you.
0:12:13 > 0:12:16Well, I baked the crumb cake because I figured it was early
0:12:16 > 0:12:19- and you guys would be hungry. - That was very nice of you.
0:12:19 > 0:12:21You haven't had breakfast.
0:12:21 > 0:12:22How long have you been on parole?
0:12:22 > 0:12:27Two years and a month, so I have 11 months left.
0:12:29 > 0:12:33- Have you got used to it? - A little bit, yeah.- In what way?
0:12:33 > 0:12:34I think, at first,
0:12:34 > 0:12:39I was very paranoid about doing something wrong,
0:12:39 > 0:12:42and now I, kind of, know what's OK and what's not.
0:12:42 > 0:12:44I feel more comfortable.
0:12:44 > 0:12:48What is the hardest part of what you're going through now?
0:12:48 > 0:12:50Erm, being without my children.
0:12:52 > 0:12:54(Yeah.)
0:12:57 > 0:12:59OK.
0:12:59 > 0:13:01I can't have any photographs of the kids.
0:13:01 > 0:13:04- Why can't you have them? - It's one of the conditions,
0:13:04 > 0:13:08you're not allowed to have anything that relates to children.
0:13:10 > 0:13:11So, I have one picture.
0:13:11 > 0:13:15I'm allowed to have one picture of them - that's it.
0:13:15 > 0:13:16How old are they now?
0:13:16 > 0:13:24Erm, the oldest is 14 and then the middle boy is 9 and the baby is 7.
0:13:24 > 0:13:27So, at the moment, you have no contact with them, is that correct?
0:13:27 > 0:13:30- Right.- Not even on the phone? - No, not even on the phone.
0:13:30 > 0:13:32Can you write to them?
0:13:32 > 0:13:35No, I'm not allowed to write to them.
0:13:41 > 0:13:44Can you talk a little bit about your offence and how it happened?
0:13:44 > 0:13:50Erm, I got to know this family really well and they would help me
0:13:50 > 0:13:53with the kids, and they were wonderful people,
0:13:53 > 0:13:56they were almost like my own family, in a sense.
0:13:56 > 0:14:01And then things got strange with this boy and myself,
0:14:01 > 0:14:05and we ended up having this affair for six months.
0:14:05 > 0:14:07- And you were a teacher? - I was a teacher.
0:14:07 > 0:14:09And you were his teacher, is that right?
0:14:09 > 0:14:11I was his teacher.
0:14:11 > 0:14:15I'm so glad it's done, because at the time I thought, "Oh, my gosh.
0:14:15 > 0:14:17"What, you know, what am I going to do now?
0:14:17 > 0:14:19"How am I supposed to end it with him?
0:14:19 > 0:14:23"And what am I...? What about my husband and the kids?"
0:14:23 > 0:14:25And it was, sort of, like, "What, you know?
0:14:25 > 0:14:27"Why...why did I do this?"
0:14:27 > 0:14:32Had you had an attraction to, erm,
0:14:32 > 0:14:37kind of, inappropriately, young males in the past?
0:14:37 > 0:14:41No, I never had any attraction to anyone else.
0:14:43 > 0:14:50I think it was more that as we... As I got to know them,
0:14:50 > 0:14:53and the family and him, in particular,
0:14:53 > 0:14:58I think that's where I was wanting someone to love me.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01My husband, who I'm not blaming him at all,
0:15:01 > 0:15:06but, you know, he had a very demanding job, was never around.
0:15:06 > 0:15:10And I think that there's so much to it,
0:15:10 > 0:15:13it would be hard to put it into a nutshell for you, but...
0:15:13 > 0:15:16At the time, how did you justify it to yourself?
0:15:16 > 0:15:20I think I justified it by saying that I loved him and he loved me.
0:15:22 > 0:15:24That's how.
0:15:24 > 0:15:28Do you think the boy was damaged by what happened?
0:15:28 > 0:15:32He... Well, I'm sure he was to an extent.
0:15:32 > 0:15:35I put him into an adult world, in an adult situation.
0:15:35 > 0:15:39You know, he was cheating on a woman that was married with children.
0:15:39 > 0:15:43That's probably... That's hard even for a man to deal with.
0:15:43 > 0:15:49- Society has an understandable fear of sex offenders...- Right.
0:15:49 > 0:15:52..so you tell me why you feel,
0:15:52 > 0:15:57erm, sex offenders shouldn't be monitored for life
0:15:57 > 0:15:59or put on a register,
0:15:59 > 0:16:04or prevented from seeing their children and so on.
0:16:04 > 0:16:06I just feel like it's been blanketed.
0:16:06 > 0:16:12We're all sort of blanketed into this one heinous, hated group, you know?
0:16:14 > 0:16:17And they just keep slapping on more and more of these conditions.
0:16:17 > 0:16:21I mean, I've often said, "If they want to do this law or that law,
0:16:21 > 0:16:24"they should just leave us in prison for the rest of our lives."
0:16:24 > 0:16:27I mean, cos it isn't a life.
0:16:27 > 0:16:31You can't release someone from prison and then set them up for failure.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49'I'd been spending more time at Pathways with Craig,
0:16:49 > 0:16:52'trying to get a sense of his role in managing the offenders
0:16:52 > 0:16:54'who live there.'
0:16:54 > 0:16:56Lucy, come.
0:16:56 > 0:16:57Have a seat in here, please.
0:16:59 > 0:17:06OK, so I just noticed a few minutes ago, two people walking out,
0:17:06 > 0:17:07one of which I did not recognise,
0:17:07 > 0:17:11but when I just see someone come and go, I get very suspicious.
0:17:11 > 0:17:16So I'm going to go over and find out some answers, if I can.
0:17:22 > 0:17:24- Jimmy, you here?- Yes, sir.
0:17:24 > 0:17:28I was over here just kind of talking and waiting for a few text messages,
0:17:28 > 0:17:31and I saw someone walk out with you that I didn't recognise.
0:17:35 > 0:17:37But he's not a Pathways resident.
0:17:39 > 0:17:43At this point, what I do is I go and record the information.
0:17:43 > 0:17:45What is your suspicion?
0:17:47 > 0:17:50My suspicion is someone came over and dropped off methamphetamine.
0:17:52 > 0:17:56Is Jimmy known to have a meth issue?
0:17:56 > 0:18:00Oh, yes, that's one of the reasons that he just went into custody...
0:18:02 > 0:18:05..earlier this month for a week.
0:18:05 > 0:18:06- How you doing?- All right.
0:18:06 > 0:18:10- We haven't met properly on camera, I'm Louis.- I'm Jimmy.- Jimmy.
0:18:10 > 0:18:13Now I noticed that Craig came and talked to you about
0:18:13 > 0:18:15a possibly unauthorised visitor.
0:18:15 > 0:18:19- OK.- What was that about? - I have no idea.
0:18:19 > 0:18:22He's a friend. He's a friend of mine.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25He came by to tell me about some work.
0:18:25 > 0:18:27So, there was a perfectly innocent explanation for the visit,
0:18:27 > 0:18:30- in other words? - Oh, sure, absolutely.
0:18:30 > 0:18:31If you don't believe me, ask Craig.
0:18:31 > 0:18:33Was part of your offence history...
0:18:33 > 0:18:36Was there a background of substance abuse
0:18:36 > 0:18:39that was maybe sending you astray a little bit?
0:18:39 > 0:18:42No, it had nothing to do with my crime, no.
0:18:42 > 0:18:44Anger. Anger.
0:18:44 > 0:18:48I would be intrigued to know what it was you did.
0:18:48 > 0:18:52Yeah, well, I would really rather not go into that, you know?
0:18:52 > 0:18:55- It's, erm... - You have the right to say,
0:18:55 > 0:18:57- you know, you don't disclose what your offence was.- Right.
0:18:57 > 0:19:00It's also in the nature of these crimes
0:19:00 > 0:19:02- that they're on the public record.- Sure.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05I'd be curious to know how you would feel about me looking up.
0:19:05 > 0:19:07You want to go and do that, you want to look up?
0:19:07 > 0:19:09I mean, that's your right.
0:19:09 > 0:19:12- How would you feel about that? - About you doing it?- Mm-hm.
0:19:12 > 0:19:15It wouldn't make no difference to me, you got that right.
0:19:15 > 0:19:17Would that make you more inclined just to say what you did?
0:19:17 > 0:19:19- Out of interest? - No, I tell you what,
0:19:19 > 0:19:22between now and next time I see you, I'll give it some thought.
0:19:22 > 0:19:23- Give it some thought.- All right.
0:19:24 > 0:19:28'Since first learning that Craig was himself a sex offender,
0:19:28 > 0:19:31'I'd been wondering how it affected his relationship
0:19:31 > 0:19:33'with the Pathways tenants.'
0:19:33 > 0:19:35You feel it's an advantage,
0:19:35 > 0:19:38having gone through what you've gone through...
0:19:39 > 0:19:41..in terms of the work that you do?
0:19:43 > 0:19:46Oh, most definitely. The easy way to say it is you can't con a con.
0:19:49 > 0:19:52And everywhere that I go,
0:19:52 > 0:19:56there's someone trying to run some type of game of some...
0:19:56 > 0:20:02some type or, erm, hustle this, hustle that, hustle someone.
0:20:02 > 0:20:07And I see all of these things coming from a distance,
0:20:07 > 0:20:08from a long ways off.
0:20:09 > 0:20:13When you say, "You can't con a con,"
0:20:13 > 0:20:17you mean, at one time, you would have been that con?
0:20:17 > 0:20:19No, what that statement really means
0:20:19 > 0:20:27is that dealing with my experiences, and dealing with my work,
0:20:27 > 0:20:33I deal with people that... They aren't done being deceivers.
0:20:33 > 0:20:38I mean, you having had, erm, an offence history
0:20:38 > 0:20:40and a time when you were doing,
0:20:40 > 0:20:45I'm assuming...bad things, maybe terrible things,
0:20:45 > 0:20:49that there was a time when you were a deceiver, when you were, erm,
0:20:49 > 0:20:55someone who did dreadful things that you didn't want brought to light.
0:20:58 > 0:21:03Erm, I'm not sure how to respond - was there a question?
0:21:03 > 0:21:07I mean, were you, at one time, a deceiver, that's what I'm asking?
0:21:09 > 0:21:11Yes.
0:21:19 > 0:21:21But back to the meaning,
0:21:21 > 0:21:25and intended meaning, of "you can't con a con"
0:21:25 > 0:21:29is that all of these people that come in here have a different agenda.
0:21:29 > 0:21:34I can go to parole and say, "You need to keep a watch on this guy."
0:21:34 > 0:21:36And when they ask me why and I tell them,
0:21:36 > 0:21:39they say "Thank you, duly noted."
0:21:39 > 0:21:43My job, my first priority, is to be an extension
0:21:43 > 0:21:45of the eyes and the ears of parole.
0:21:51 > 0:21:54'A little later, I was heading back to see Randy Wickham.'
0:21:54 > 0:21:56- How are you doing?- I'm doing well.
0:21:56 > 0:22:01'I'd been struck by his apparent openness about his offence history.
0:22:01 > 0:22:02'I had some more questions.'
0:22:02 > 0:22:07So if we were in a park, let's say, what would be your victim profile?
0:22:07 > 0:22:09About 40, 45 years old.
0:22:09 > 0:22:10Erm...
0:22:12 > 0:22:16Erm, kind of motherly-looking.
0:22:16 > 0:22:21I would be laying down on the grass or over by the tennis courts.
0:22:21 > 0:22:24When you do it, are you in a state of arousal?
0:22:25 > 0:22:29Erm, yes, about, about 80% of the time.
0:22:29 > 0:22:33- Your penis is erect? - Erm, or beginning to be.
0:22:33 > 0:22:35What's the commonest reaction?
0:22:35 > 0:22:39Erm...
0:22:39 > 0:22:41I think it's concern.
0:22:41 > 0:22:44- Fear?- No, concern, concern.
0:22:44 > 0:22:49Like, the look in their eyes indicates me it's concern,
0:22:49 > 0:22:54- it's definitely not fear. - Concern for what?- Concern for me.
0:22:54 > 0:22:56I had one woman tell me, you know,
0:22:56 > 0:22:58"Be careful, there are police in the area,
0:22:58 > 0:23:01"I don't want to see you get arrested." You know, erm...
0:23:01 > 0:23:05Can I just say, though, like, I'm not...I'm not a woman...
0:23:05 > 0:23:10- Yeah.- ..and so, in a sense, I have less to be afraid of, physically,
0:23:10 > 0:23:15but...even I would find it, I think, upsetting.
0:23:15 > 0:23:18I would feel concern for myself, not for you.
0:23:18 > 0:23:22I think the standard impression of exhibition
0:23:22 > 0:23:26is someone that jumps out behind a bush or a tree with a trench coat,
0:23:26 > 0:23:31and tries to surprise someone, "Ah-ha", and shock them.
0:23:31 > 0:23:36When I do it, I want to retain their attention for as long as possible.
0:23:36 > 0:23:39I don't want them to run away in fear.
0:23:39 > 0:23:42I want to be noticed, maybe talked to
0:23:42 > 0:23:44and, in some cases, they talk to me.
0:23:44 > 0:23:48I think you're labouring under a little bit of a self-deception
0:23:48 > 0:23:50- to do with...- Yeah. - ..the impact that you have
0:23:50 > 0:23:53on the people you expose yourself to.
0:23:54 > 0:24:00It could be. It's... Maybe it's like a handful of times,
0:24:00 > 0:24:04women have just approached me while... Just come right up to me
0:24:04 > 0:24:06while I was doing this. There's no fear there.
0:24:06 > 0:24:10- If you took your trousers and pants down right now...- Mm.
0:24:10 > 0:24:12..in front of us, the crew and the camera,
0:24:12 > 0:24:17- would that not feel quite weird to you?- Yeah, yeah.
0:24:17 > 0:24:20It would be very shocking, wouldn't it?
0:24:21 > 0:24:24- I would never do that. - And began masturbating?
0:24:24 > 0:24:27Yeah, but I wouldn't do that.
0:24:27 > 0:24:30I mean, I see what you're saying, but you mean in front of men?
0:24:32 > 0:24:36- Erm...- But, in a way, there's really no difference.- Yeah.
0:24:39 > 0:24:40Yeah.
0:24:42 > 0:24:45Yeah, I can see what you're saying, it makes sense.
0:25:10 > 0:25:14'I was with parole agent Byron Bleen.
0:25:14 > 0:25:17'We were on Skid Row in Downtown LA,
0:25:17 > 0:25:20'a gathering spot for the city's destitute.'
0:25:20 > 0:25:23Coming through, guys, coming through.
0:25:23 > 0:25:26- Camera crew. - Coming through.- Media, media.
0:25:26 > 0:25:28I could care less...
0:25:30 > 0:25:32'Agent Bleen was making the rounds
0:25:32 > 0:25:35'of some of the homeless sex offenders under his supervision.'
0:25:37 > 0:25:41Oh, my gosh. We got lucky.
0:25:41 > 0:25:43- You see him?- He's right there.
0:25:46 > 0:25:49Willy?
0:25:49 > 0:25:51Just stay right there.
0:25:51 > 0:25:53- How you been?- OK.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55You haven't come in this week, how come?
0:25:55 > 0:25:57Oh, because you told me to, erm...
0:26:01 > 0:26:05No, I said... I said, when I saw you, to come in Monday.
0:26:05 > 0:26:07You didn't come in at all this week yet,
0:26:07 > 0:26:09cos I got to get you in the class. You're going to start
0:26:09 > 0:26:13the Star Programme on November 18, I have a date.
0:26:13 > 0:26:16- Agent Bleen?- Yes. - How long have you known Willy?
0:26:16 > 0:26:18- A long time.- How long?
0:26:18 > 0:26:21We been... This is the second term that Willy's done on parole.
0:26:21 > 0:26:24I had him a long time on the first term. He got...
0:26:24 > 0:26:28He discharged that number and within eight months, a year,
0:26:28 > 0:26:30he was back in prison again.
0:26:43 > 0:26:44What was your offence?
0:26:51 > 0:26:52- Really?- Yeah.
0:26:57 > 0:27:00'The rules on where sex offenders can live
0:27:00 > 0:27:04'mean that many can't find housing and end up homeless.
0:27:04 > 0:27:07'I was curious for Agent Bleen's view of the law.'
0:27:07 > 0:27:11Do you feel that the residency restrictions
0:27:11 > 0:27:15are a helpful provision, legal, legal provision?
0:27:15 > 0:27:18The studies have shown that the residency restrictions
0:27:18 > 0:27:21really have no effects.
0:27:23 > 0:27:26Some of the quirkiness about the laws.
0:27:26 > 0:27:31If your house is beside a school, or a park,
0:27:31 > 0:27:34and it's not 2,000 feet, you have to move away.
0:27:34 > 0:27:36You're a transient, you live in a van
0:27:36 > 0:27:39and you move the van around the area.
0:27:39 > 0:27:42Unless they have restriction of you being within 100 yards
0:27:42 > 0:27:45of the school or park, you could park just up the street
0:27:45 > 0:27:49and at that point who becomes possibly more dangerous?
0:27:49 > 0:27:52For me, I've got to know some of these guys in the hostels,
0:27:52 > 0:27:54and so forth, and, you know,
0:27:54 > 0:27:58one or two of them, I have started to, erm,
0:27:58 > 0:28:02I guess like a little bit, and, at the same time,
0:28:02 > 0:28:06I'm also aware that they've done something terrible.
0:28:06 > 0:28:09And I go back and forth between...
0:28:10 > 0:28:14..thinking they deserve a second chance and then feeling as though
0:28:14 > 0:28:17you could never really trust someone like that again.
0:28:17 > 0:28:18That's the dilemma...
0:28:22 > 0:28:25..cos you never truly know what they're thinking.
0:28:37 > 0:28:42'Up in the Hollywood Hills, I had a lead on a former tenant of Pathways,
0:28:42 > 0:28:44'now homeless, living in a van.'
0:28:47 > 0:28:50'He'd been out of prison a year and a half,
0:28:50 > 0:28:54'but repeatedly returned to jail for parole violations.
0:28:54 > 0:28:57'He'd agreed to talk to me under an assumed name.'
0:28:59 > 0:29:03- How you doing? - Good afternoon.- Louis.- Billy.
0:29:03 > 0:29:07This is your van? This is your home, as it were?
0:29:07 > 0:29:10This is my Hollywood mansion.
0:29:10 > 0:29:12You live in here at the moment.
0:29:12 > 0:29:15You live in the van, is that right?
0:29:15 > 0:29:17I sleep in here when I don't have anywhere else to go.
0:29:17 > 0:29:20At what point did you wind up at the facility in Torrance,
0:29:20 > 0:29:24the sex offenders' facility there?
0:29:24 > 0:29:28That's going have to be, like, six violations down the line, Louis.
0:29:28 > 0:29:31Let me tell you about the third or fourth, I think that had to do...
0:29:31 > 0:29:34- There's ten violations?- Yeah... - So we don't need to do all of them.
0:29:34 > 0:29:37- There was 11.- 11, so we don't need to do every one.
0:29:37 > 0:29:39Well, Louis, this is something to consider,
0:29:39 > 0:29:42because I've been returned to custody.
0:29:42 > 0:29:44My liberty is at stake over this situation right here,
0:29:44 > 0:29:47and when I go back to jail, it's 30 days at a time
0:29:47 > 0:29:50and people like you might not care who's a sex offender.
0:29:50 > 0:29:53But, look, I already did my time, bro.
0:29:53 > 0:29:57All right, so the third and fourth time that I was returned to custody,
0:29:57 > 0:30:00it was for non-criminal conduct - I went to the beach.
0:30:00 > 0:30:02And you didn't realise that you weren't supposed to go to the beach?
0:30:02 > 0:30:04I mean, what would you say?
0:30:04 > 0:30:08Is the beach a place where children congregate?
0:30:08 > 0:30:10I don't know. Is the forest?
0:30:10 > 0:30:14Is, er, McDonald's? Is the supermarket?
0:30:14 > 0:30:16You tell me, how am I supposed to know? I asked them to give me a list
0:30:16 > 0:30:18of the places I can't go and he said,
0:30:18 > 0:30:21"I can't do that, man, you just have to know."
0:30:21 > 0:30:24What are these unwritten rules?
0:30:24 > 0:30:26Come on, man, what do I have to go through?
0:30:26 > 0:30:29And this is all because I'm a 290 registering on parole.
0:30:29 > 0:30:31What did you get convicted of?
0:30:31 > 0:30:33Let's go for a walk, I'll show you what I do when I'm up here.
0:30:33 > 0:30:36- All right. Do you want to talk about your offence history?- No.
0:30:37 > 0:30:39- Do you come up here quite a bit? - Mm-hmm.
0:30:43 > 0:30:46- How many pull-ups can you do in a row?- Maybe five.
0:30:47 > 0:30:48I think I could do like 20.
0:30:50 > 0:30:53Want to have a contest?
0:30:53 > 0:30:55I mean, how much can you talk about what you did?
0:30:55 > 0:30:56This is what I'm trying to tell you, Louis,
0:30:56 > 0:31:00why hang out with a bunch of sex offenders in Torrance
0:31:00 > 0:31:04that are up to no good when I could hang out up here by myself?
0:31:16 > 0:31:18My hands are too sweaty.
0:31:18 > 0:31:20- How many did you make there? - 14.
0:31:23 > 0:31:26If she would have been 14, I wouldn't have gone to prison.
0:31:28 > 0:31:30I would have got a misdemeanour.
0:31:31 > 0:31:33So if she would have been six months older...
0:31:35 > 0:31:40..I wouldn't have been on parole, I wouldn't be wearing a GPS monitor.
0:31:42 > 0:31:43You met her at a party?
0:31:45 > 0:31:47That's right, we were drinking.
0:31:51 > 0:31:53We just got too drunk, man,
0:31:53 > 0:31:56and I kissed, we kissed, I didn't even know her.
0:31:56 > 0:31:58It's just one of those things where you sit down
0:31:58 > 0:32:01on the couch together with an attractive girl.
0:32:03 > 0:32:07It's not that I was perverted and attracted to pre-pubescent girls.
0:32:09 > 0:32:13I wasn't out there looking for a minor to molest.
0:32:13 > 0:32:16I just wanted a girl I could drink with.
0:32:16 > 0:32:17She didn't look like she was 13.
0:32:20 > 0:32:24At the trial, did the girl say she'd been taken advantage of in any way?
0:32:24 > 0:32:28Whoa, you just kind of jumped ship on me there, huh?
0:32:28 > 0:32:31We were talking about something else and you went right back into the trial.
0:32:38 > 0:32:41What is it you're so curious about that you want to get on camera,
0:32:41 > 0:32:45you want to talk about an issue of force, is that it?
0:32:45 > 0:32:47I hadn't heard anything about an issue of force.
0:32:47 > 0:32:51OK, so why do you keep reverting back to that line of questioning?
0:32:51 > 0:32:54Er, well, it seemed to me that in the narrative
0:32:54 > 0:32:56everything had been accounted for,
0:32:56 > 0:32:59the sequence of events, except her attitude to the crime.
0:33:02 > 0:33:04OK, that's what you want to talk about?
0:33:06 > 0:33:07Nice doing business with you.
0:33:12 > 0:33:14What about the future?
0:33:15 > 0:33:18My life revolves around staying out of jail.
0:33:18 > 0:33:20That's my main concern,
0:33:20 > 0:33:22staying out of jail, staying clean,
0:33:22 > 0:33:24staying away from all those sex offenders
0:33:24 > 0:33:27that they tried to stick me with in Torrance.
0:33:27 > 0:33:29I want to be around the people I want to be around,
0:33:29 > 0:33:32I want to explore my potential, I want to be able to spread my wings
0:33:32 > 0:33:35and see if I could fly where I want to fly.
0:33:45 > 0:33:49Back in south LA and I was heading to Pathways.
0:33:53 > 0:33:54Go get your shit.
0:33:56 > 0:33:58Walk over here.
0:33:58 > 0:34:00- I'm on film?- Yeah, you're being filmed.- All right.
0:34:00 > 0:34:03- Get your shit right now.- You don't have time to be interviewed.
0:34:03 > 0:34:05Walk over and get your shit.
0:34:05 > 0:34:09'I'd arrived to find Craig in the process of evicting Jimmy.'
0:34:09 > 0:34:12Open the goddamn door. Shut your mouth, please.
0:34:12 > 0:34:13Don't yell at me!
0:34:13 > 0:34:15I'm not yelling. Do you want to hear yelling?!
0:34:15 > 0:34:19- Yeah, let me hear yelling. - Shut your mouth now!
0:34:19 > 0:34:21Now I'm yelling at you.
0:34:21 > 0:34:22You said open the door.
0:34:22 > 0:34:26- Give me the key, give me the key, back off, give me this.- You see that?
0:34:26 > 0:34:30You're fucking drunk, you smell like you drank this morning.
0:34:30 > 0:34:32Get 911, call 911.
0:34:32 > 0:34:33Craig, can we have a quick...?
0:34:33 > 0:34:36No, you cannot have a quick chat with me.
0:34:36 > 0:34:40You were seen by parole drunk off your ass last night.
0:34:40 > 0:34:43You wouldn't wake up, you're still not getting it!
0:34:43 > 0:34:46Call 911, get the fucking police over here.
0:34:46 > 0:34:49- Craig, you OK?- I am not going to have a conversation right now.
0:34:49 > 0:34:53You don't have a chance of talking to me, stop.
0:34:53 > 0:34:55Do you know what you're being thrown out for?
0:34:55 > 0:34:57Um, well, I, I have an idea.
0:34:58 > 0:35:01We're ready to talk? You want to go to the sidewalk?
0:35:01 > 0:35:03Well, I don't want to escalate the situation.
0:35:03 > 0:35:05- We'd like...- You're still manipulating, Jimmy.
0:35:05 > 0:35:08- Now get your stuff and take it... Where's his stuff going? - Where do you want it?
0:35:08 > 0:35:12This is an emergency. I need the Los Angeles PD Harbour Division.
0:35:12 > 0:35:15- We're going to try this again. Can you zip it?- Yeah.
0:35:15 > 0:35:19You're just a renter that's gone today, OK?
0:35:19 > 0:35:22You need to listen. I don't need to hear shit that you have to say.
0:35:35 > 0:35:37You seemed quite angry.
0:35:37 > 0:35:42Actually, what I was was putting my foot down.
0:35:42 > 0:35:44Remember I know what a...
0:35:44 > 0:35:46You seemed annoyed with me at one point?
0:35:46 > 0:35:49Well, I wasn't annoyed at all, I was focused.
0:35:49 > 0:35:51That was a side of you we hadn't seen before.
0:35:53 > 0:35:57Actually it's a side of me that I keep in my,
0:35:57 > 0:35:59er, Felix magic bag of tricks.
0:35:59 > 0:36:02So what I was trying to do was not only put my foot down
0:36:02 > 0:36:06and show authority, but to make him know that the deal is done, OK?
0:36:06 > 0:36:08Where does he go now?
0:36:08 > 0:36:11Well, he's, he's going to go, um...
0:36:13 > 0:36:16..to wherever he makes contact with law enforcement
0:36:16 > 0:36:18and they're going to put him into custody.
0:36:18 > 0:36:20Jimmy has a conviction for rape.
0:36:20 > 0:36:22- Yes, he does. - In Vancouver in 1990.
0:36:22 > 0:36:25- Older case. - Yes, an older case. You knew that?
0:36:25 > 0:36:31- Yes.- Is there a little element of, er, fear or worry that,
0:36:31 > 0:36:37that a convicted rapist is now homeless on the streets?
0:36:37 > 0:36:40No more so than when he was housed.
0:36:40 > 0:36:44He had no bars and anything to inhibit him from leaving.
0:36:44 > 0:36:47Well, he had supervision. He had you, he had people like you
0:36:47 > 0:36:50and Ralph and others keeping an eye on him
0:36:50 > 0:36:52and making sure he was where he was supposed to be.
0:36:52 > 0:36:55Right. Well, if he was going to commit a crime
0:36:55 > 0:36:59it would have been committed long before he ran into these other problems.
0:36:59 > 0:37:01He's no more of a threat being out of this house
0:37:01 > 0:37:03than he is being in this house.
0:37:05 > 0:37:07Where do you think he is now?
0:37:07 > 0:37:09I think he's going to get more alcohol and methamphetamine.
0:37:11 > 0:37:13He doesn't care right now.
0:37:13 > 0:37:15This is someone that's already lost everything in their life
0:37:15 > 0:37:17over and over again.
0:37:19 > 0:37:22This is...replaceable.
0:37:26 > 0:37:29On a street corner close by, I caught up with Jimmy.
0:37:31 > 0:37:34So what's going to happen now?
0:37:34 > 0:37:36OK, so what's going to happen now,
0:37:36 > 0:37:39well, look at it, here's a black and white as we speak.
0:37:39 > 0:37:42- You think they're out to get you? - Oh, I'm, I'm absolutely certain.
0:37:42 > 0:37:45You guys were there when he called the police, were you not?
0:37:45 > 0:37:48They've repeatedly said that you were getting high on meth.
0:37:48 > 0:37:52No, no, no, I have in the past, I've already told you guys that,
0:37:52 > 0:37:55- I've already, I've already told. - At the facility? At that facility?
0:37:55 > 0:37:56No, not that, well, yeah,
0:37:56 > 0:37:59that was one of the reasons I went to jail before.
0:37:59 > 0:38:01Do you remember we spoke before and you said
0:38:01 > 0:38:04you wouldn't tell me what your sex offence was
0:38:04 > 0:38:06- but I was welcome to look it up? - Yeah.
0:38:06 > 0:38:08- And so I looked it up.- And?
0:38:08 > 0:38:11- And it said that you committed a rape.- Yeah.
0:38:11 > 0:38:13In Vancouver in 1990.
0:38:13 > 0:38:15- Yes, sir.- Is that true?
0:38:16 > 0:38:19That's what happened there, it was my girlfriend.
0:38:19 > 0:38:22I'm not what we call a tree jumper. I don't jump out of trees
0:38:22 > 0:38:26and attack women physically and hold them down and all that, no, no, no.
0:38:26 > 0:38:29This was a thing that happened with my girlfriend,
0:38:29 > 0:38:30it got out of hand.
0:38:30 > 0:38:32What were you doing, if you don't mind my asking,
0:38:32 > 0:38:34what were you doing raping your girlfriend?
0:38:35 > 0:38:37Well...
0:38:37 > 0:38:38HE SIGHS
0:38:38 > 0:38:41You guys asking some poignant questions. All right, I did promise.
0:38:41 > 0:38:44What was I doing raping my girlfriend? Well, it was wrong.
0:38:44 > 0:38:47I'm not going to substantiate any kind of, you know,
0:38:47 > 0:38:51light punishment on myself in my own mind to you, Louis,
0:38:51 > 0:38:54to the BBC, to anyone. What I did was wrong.
0:38:56 > 0:38:59It was wrong morally, it was wrong against humanity,
0:38:59 > 0:39:01it was wrong legally.
0:39:01 > 0:39:02Have you had any other sex offences?
0:39:02 > 0:39:05No. Well, yes.
0:39:05 > 0:39:08Well, you read it! You're going to sit there and make me tell you
0:39:08 > 0:39:10what you've already read?!
0:39:10 > 0:39:12Come on, Louis, don't be like that, man.
0:39:12 > 0:39:15I, I know you, how much did you read?
0:39:15 > 0:39:17All of it, did you read it all?
0:39:17 > 0:39:20How much do you know? Do you already know the answer
0:39:20 > 0:39:22- to what I'm about to say?- No.
0:39:22 > 0:39:24You don't? You know what? I'm going to believe you.
0:39:24 > 0:39:26Yeah, there is. There's one other and it was a...
0:39:26 > 0:39:29This one was with the mother of my daughter.
0:39:31 > 0:39:32Again, I attempted.
0:39:32 > 0:39:35I couldn't, but I, you know what?
0:39:41 > 0:39:43I did what's called oral copulation.
0:39:45 > 0:39:46Since then? No.
0:39:48 > 0:39:52No, I haven't, I haven't hurt nobody, haven't hurt nobody.
0:39:52 > 0:39:57I understand you were beaten a lot growing up.
0:39:57 > 0:39:58Yeah, can we not get into that?
0:39:58 > 0:40:02- By your dad? - Is it just curiosity on your part?
0:40:02 > 0:40:03Yeah, I had trouble. I mean...
0:40:04 > 0:40:07That, that, yeah, you could say that.
0:40:07 > 0:40:09The polite word is dysfunctional.
0:40:11 > 0:40:15That's the polite word. I had an extremely dysfunctional upbringing.
0:40:17 > 0:40:20- How?- I had a dad that was a piece of shit
0:40:20 > 0:40:22and I had a mom that was an angel, OK?
0:40:22 > 0:40:23You do the math.
0:40:25 > 0:40:28And you know, cos like right between the two,
0:40:28 > 0:40:30you get hit on this side of your face
0:40:30 > 0:40:32and you're getting stroked on this side of your face.
0:40:32 > 0:40:35Sooner or later you don't know which one's which...
0:40:38 > 0:40:42Sooner or later you don't care which one's which.
0:40:44 > 0:40:47I want to die so fucking bad.
0:40:48 > 0:40:53Why? Because I'm tired, man, I'm tired of making decisions,
0:40:53 > 0:40:58I'm tired of not knowing which one's a stroke and which one's a slap.
0:41:16 > 0:41:17It was Halloween.
0:41:23 > 0:41:27OK, it's going to be on the left, 1,665 in the rear.
0:41:27 > 0:41:31Under California State Law, all paroled sex offenders
0:41:31 > 0:41:35were required to remain in their homes all night with no decorations
0:41:35 > 0:41:38and away from trick or treating children.
0:41:38 > 0:41:39State Parole!
0:41:42 > 0:41:45Across Los Angeles, parole agents were taking part
0:41:45 > 0:41:48in what they were calling Operation Boo,
0:41:48 > 0:41:52among them Agents Escobar and Rodriguez.
0:41:53 > 0:41:55OK, where to now?
0:41:55 > 0:41:57Next door, I mean the next block.
0:41:58 > 0:42:00State Parole.
0:42:00 > 0:42:02If you find that they're not in compliance,
0:42:02 > 0:42:03they've got a pumpkin out or,
0:42:03 > 0:42:07um, some Halloween decorations, what's the next move?
0:42:07 > 0:42:09- Take them into custody. - There and then?
0:42:09 > 0:42:13- Custody, yeah.- When you're in there, do you look for candy?
0:42:13 > 0:42:15Yeah, we, we do a general search of the area.
0:42:15 > 0:42:18If you found some candy inside the residence?
0:42:18 > 0:42:21There's a difference. If we found a couple pieces of candy,
0:42:21 > 0:42:23- it's not a big deal. - Like a chocolate bar?
0:42:23 > 0:42:26If we found, like a bowl by the door that obviously they're giving out
0:42:26 > 0:42:29candy for trick or treaters, then it's a different story.
0:42:32 > 0:42:35- Nice to meet you.- Nice to meet you. A little barbecue sauce on my hands.
0:42:35 > 0:42:37We're just going to do a check on some of the clients here.
0:42:37 > 0:42:39Anything that you need, sir.
0:42:39 > 0:42:40Gomez.
0:42:46 > 0:42:47Parole.
0:42:47 > 0:42:49How many people we got here? Two?
0:42:49 > 0:42:51All right, where's the other guy at?
0:42:51 > 0:42:52How's it going, Randy?
0:42:52 > 0:42:55- OK.- You're not allowed out on the porch?
0:42:55 > 0:42:58I don't think so. It's Halloween. I don't want to take a chance.
0:42:58 > 0:43:00You think they'd take you away?
0:43:00 > 0:43:03- Yes, that's what I'm saying. - Until what time?
0:43:03 > 0:43:07I think it's until sun up tomorrow when the sun comes up,
0:43:07 > 0:43:09that's my best guess, I'm pretty sure.
0:43:12 > 0:43:16There is this fear that gets passed around that sex offenders
0:43:16 > 0:43:20might prey on kids around Halloween, but do you think that's factual?
0:43:20 > 0:43:24Do you think the public is right to be afraid of that?
0:43:24 > 0:43:27You know, in my personal opinion,
0:43:27 > 0:43:29this kind of goes to one of those things,
0:43:29 > 0:43:32if somebody's really that ill in their head and you put something
0:43:32 > 0:43:34in front of them, they're going to take it.
0:43:34 > 0:43:37It's like putting candy in front of a kid, you know?
0:43:37 > 0:43:39And the ones who are predators,
0:43:39 > 0:43:41we don't want to give them that temptation.
0:43:50 > 0:43:53I was making another visit to Amy Beck.
0:43:53 > 0:43:56Her parole agent was doing a monthly house check.
0:43:58 > 0:44:00- Hi.- Hi, Amy, how are you?
0:44:00 > 0:44:02- I'm good.- Anyone home?- No.
0:44:02 > 0:44:04- Can you show me around the house real fast?- Sure.
0:44:06 > 0:44:07- Closet.- OK.
0:44:12 > 0:44:15Can I quickly ask, um, what you're doing?
0:44:16 > 0:44:18I'm going through the apartment to see
0:44:18 > 0:44:21if there's anything that shouldn't be there,
0:44:21 > 0:44:25any kind of things that might violate her conditions of parole.
0:44:25 > 0:44:29She has a condition of no contact with children,
0:44:29 > 0:44:34so any children's stuff or anyone else even being here.
0:44:34 > 0:44:36So we have to go through it.
0:44:38 > 0:44:40And that's it, yeah.
0:44:40 > 0:44:43You said you have 22 parolees that you keep an eye on.
0:44:43 > 0:44:44- Right.- Is that right?
0:44:44 > 0:44:48And how many of them are women?
0:44:48 > 0:44:52One. Just Amy, yes.
0:44:52 > 0:44:53Poor lady.
0:44:55 > 0:44:58- Are you allowed to express a personal opinion?- Yes.
0:44:58 > 0:45:02So in your personal opinion, you've got to know Amy a little bit,
0:45:02 > 0:45:06could you say that you like Amy?
0:45:06 > 0:45:07- I do.- You do?
0:45:07 > 0:45:12Yes, she's very cooperative, she's very open, more so than,
0:45:12 > 0:45:15you know, just telling me about how her parole is. You know,
0:45:15 > 0:45:16she tells me about her family
0:45:16 > 0:45:21and how anxious she is about reuniting with her children.
0:45:21 > 0:45:24What strikes me about that is that it's also punishing the kids.
0:45:24 > 0:45:31I agree, because not only did her crime victimise her victim,
0:45:31 > 0:45:34but her children now too since they can't,
0:45:34 > 0:45:36they don't have a mother for a few years.
0:45:36 > 0:45:39Looking at Amy, it seems to me
0:45:39 > 0:45:41she's sort of being lumped in with, uh...
0:45:43 > 0:45:45..people, some of whom are dangerous
0:45:45 > 0:45:48and some of whom are not as dangerous?
0:45:48 > 0:45:52On a personal level, whenever I get a sex offender,
0:45:52 > 0:45:54I mean, I'm not attacking you, Amy...
0:45:54 > 0:45:59- It's OK.- ..but she does have one, you know, one conviction.
0:45:59 > 0:46:02It doesn't mean she didn't do anything before that.
0:46:02 > 0:46:07I'm just not one to take chances. I think this is a good system.
0:46:07 > 0:46:12Yes, I think anyone that does an offence involving sex, yes,
0:46:12 > 0:46:15they should all be categorised up there at the top,
0:46:15 > 0:46:17along with murderers.
0:46:17 > 0:46:21Can you look at her and see why she could still be dangerous?
0:46:22 > 0:46:24Wow...
0:46:24 > 0:46:26Um, I could.
0:46:26 > 0:46:27Yeah...
0:46:27 > 0:46:31Again, I don't think she is,
0:46:31 > 0:46:34but anybody can be dangerous,
0:46:34 > 0:46:37even someone that hasn't done what she's done.
0:46:39 > 0:46:42I understand that, I do.
0:46:42 > 0:46:44Would you trust Amy around children?
0:46:44 > 0:46:48I would... Knowing her history,
0:46:48 > 0:46:52I would not trust Amy around my 14-year-old son,
0:46:52 > 0:46:55anyone's 14-year-old son, no.
0:46:57 > 0:46:59Why give it a second chance?
0:47:00 > 0:47:04In about six months' time, Amy will be off parole
0:47:04 > 0:47:07and she will get a second chance, isn't that right?
0:47:07 > 0:47:11- Yes.- And at that point would it be appropriate for you to trust her
0:47:11 > 0:47:14- around your 14-year-old son?- No.
0:47:15 > 0:47:18It doesn't mean she will not do it again.
0:47:18 > 0:47:19I understand.
0:47:22 > 0:47:23What are you thinking?
0:47:25 > 0:47:26Just, I, um...
0:47:32 > 0:47:34I don't know how to be in society.
0:47:34 > 0:47:38Am I supposed to tell people if they have kids, you know,
0:47:38 > 0:47:41that I did this thing so they're aware and they can
0:47:41 > 0:47:43choose as a mom, you know,
0:47:43 > 0:47:47"I don't want you to come to my house", or...?
0:47:50 > 0:47:53I feel like I should keep myself away
0:47:53 > 0:47:57from people with families.
0:47:57 > 0:48:00It is heart-wrenching because I'm a mother as well
0:48:00 > 0:48:05and, you know, to know that, to have that...
0:48:07 > 0:48:10..that word "sex offender" lingering on your head
0:48:10 > 0:48:16for the rest of your life is got to be extremely rough.
0:48:16 > 0:48:20I would only hope that she...
0:48:20 > 0:48:24She's doing great and she's never violated,
0:48:24 > 0:48:28she's been cooperative to an extreme that is rare.
0:48:28 > 0:48:31I think she's... If she continues on that goal, you know,
0:48:31 > 0:48:35keeps working, I think she'll, I think she'll be fine.
0:48:37 > 0:48:38I just want my kids back.
0:48:40 > 0:48:46I don't really care about anybody else's kids, so...yeah.
0:48:50 > 0:48:53In six months' time, Amy would be off parole.
0:48:53 > 0:48:55It would be up to the courts to decide
0:48:55 > 0:48:57whether she could see her children.
0:49:15 > 0:49:16I was back with Randy.
0:49:18 > 0:49:20Since our last visit,
0:49:20 > 0:49:23I'd heard that he'd been going through a slump.
0:49:23 > 0:49:26So you've been having certain thoughts?
0:49:27 > 0:49:29Yeah. Um...
0:49:30 > 0:49:34I've had these thoughts actually for about 20 years
0:49:34 > 0:49:37and one time I acted on them while I was in prison.
0:49:39 > 0:49:40I, um...
0:49:40 > 0:49:45I tied a cord,
0:49:45 > 0:49:50a fibre cord, around my testicles and my penis.
0:49:50 > 0:49:54And I figured that,
0:49:54 > 0:49:59that it would have to be amputated.
0:49:59 > 0:50:05It's one way of actually putting a stop to all this madness,
0:50:05 > 0:50:10you know, and doing something right for myself and for others.
0:50:12 > 0:50:17And so more and more I've been thinking of an ultimate solution
0:50:17 > 0:50:21to all this which is a full, total castration.
0:50:21 > 0:50:25Do you know of any clinical or scientific evidence
0:50:25 > 0:50:28that a castration would decrease the urges?
0:50:28 > 0:50:32Well, I know... No. Um, no, I don't.
0:50:32 > 0:50:36But I don't know that, that it wouldn't.
0:50:36 > 0:50:39- Right, but it's a radical step, isn't it?- It is a radical...
0:50:39 > 0:50:41It's a very big step to take.
0:50:41 > 0:50:45What I do know is, if I don't have sex organs to expose,
0:50:45 > 0:50:49um, and it always starts out with my getting aroused
0:50:49 > 0:50:52and touching myself, if there's nothing there to touch,
0:50:52 > 0:50:55my mind is going to say, what am I doing?
0:50:55 > 0:50:59I don't have, I'm not a sexual being any more,
0:50:59 > 0:51:01why am I going to...?
0:51:01 > 0:51:04You know, it wouldn't make sense that I would reoffend.
0:51:04 > 0:51:06What about chemical castration?
0:51:06 > 0:51:09No, I've tried that. Depo-Provera, Lupron,
0:51:09 > 0:51:12those are the two most popular drugs.
0:51:12 > 0:51:17I found that after the first three months, four months,
0:51:17 > 0:51:22the urges come back and even when I'm on a high dose of that,
0:51:22 > 0:51:25I'm able to masturbate again and fantasise again.
0:51:25 > 0:51:27Why has this come up now?
0:51:27 > 0:51:31The last months it's become so intense,
0:51:31 > 0:51:33masturbating constantly,
0:51:33 > 0:51:35fantasising about women that I've seen during the day
0:51:35 > 0:51:38and going home and masturbating.
0:51:38 > 0:51:39And, um...
0:51:40 > 0:51:46I just, I see myself going down that spiral again,
0:51:46 > 0:51:48getting out of control.
0:51:59 > 0:52:03I get so emotional when I start thinking about all this.
0:52:03 > 0:52:09It's like, um, I want to do what I think is right,
0:52:09 > 0:52:13but it's like so many avenues are closed to me
0:52:13 > 0:52:16because I don't have the funds to do this, you know?
0:52:19 > 0:52:23But I feel it may have to come to my doing it myself
0:52:23 > 0:52:25if I can't get the help.
0:52:30 > 0:52:33But one way or another I feel it has to be done.
0:52:48 > 0:52:51Those sex offenders who successfully make it off parole
0:52:51 > 0:52:54have their ankle monitors removed,
0:52:54 > 0:52:58though under California law they remain listed on the web for life.
0:53:01 > 0:53:04Every birthday and whenever they move address,
0:53:04 > 0:53:06they have to register with local police.
0:53:08 > 0:53:10This is Craig's position.
0:53:12 > 0:53:14On our first day together,
0:53:14 > 0:53:17he'd agreed to discuss his offence history.
0:53:20 > 0:53:21That time had come.
0:53:23 > 0:53:29Is it correct that some of your offences involved your children?
0:53:29 > 0:53:31The only offences that I have involve my children.
0:53:33 > 0:53:38There were and have been no other people involved.
0:53:39 > 0:53:41What age were they when this was going on?
0:53:43 > 0:53:44Uh, roughly ten years old.
0:53:45 > 0:53:48So what was it, was there something in you?
0:53:50 > 0:53:52Why do you think you did that?
0:53:52 > 0:53:59I think I did that because of...my wife.
0:53:59 > 0:54:01This may or may not play well,
0:54:01 > 0:54:04but because my wife believed I was having an affair.
0:54:04 > 0:54:08And in my bent reactionary way
0:54:08 > 0:54:12from not getting to have my sexual satisfaction
0:54:12 > 0:54:16because she was the one that was having the affair, I found out later,
0:54:16 > 0:54:22I reacted by saying in my un-rational,
0:54:22 > 0:54:27fogged, cocained mind that these are my kids...
0:54:28 > 0:54:32..they came into this world through me and I'm going to...
0:54:35 > 0:54:39..bring a wrath of, of crush upon you
0:54:39 > 0:54:42by doing something you don't think I would ever do.
0:54:43 > 0:54:47Very twisted, but those were the thought processes.
0:54:47 > 0:54:50Did you think at the time it was going to hurt them?
0:54:52 > 0:54:54I really don't know. I...
0:54:56 > 0:54:57You didn't care?
0:54:57 > 0:54:59I'm not sure.
0:55:00 > 0:55:05Unfortunately, the level of trust that my sons gave me was...
0:55:07 > 0:55:11..if I said stand on their head they'd do it cos they trusted me.
0:55:11 > 0:55:12I abused that trust.
0:55:19 > 0:55:22Very strange to, to talk about it with you
0:55:22 > 0:55:27because I feel we've got to know you a little bit, and...
0:55:27 > 0:55:30and enjoyed being with you and at the same time,
0:55:30 > 0:55:33what we're talking about is what's viewed by most people
0:55:33 > 0:55:39as the most unforgivable act imaginable.
0:55:39 > 0:55:40Yeah.
0:55:44 > 0:55:48Well, we're talking bottom of the barrel...
0:55:50 > 0:55:54..scum of the earth type of acts.
0:55:54 > 0:55:56Do you ever worry that having done that once,
0:55:56 > 0:55:58that you could do it again,
0:55:58 > 0:56:00that that might still be in you in some way?
0:56:00 > 0:56:03No, I don't worry, not a minuscule.
0:56:05 > 0:56:08- Why?- Cos it's not in me.
0:56:08 > 0:56:10- It was.- It's gone.
0:56:13 > 0:56:15When was the last time you saw your sons?
0:56:15 > 0:56:18Guess it's nearly been 20 years.
0:56:18 > 0:56:20- 20 years?- Nearly.
0:56:32 > 0:56:35Well, the last 15 minutes flew by, I just looked at my watch
0:56:35 > 0:56:37and it was 15 minutes ago.
0:56:40 > 0:56:45So yeah, I hope that they are, er, vigorously enjoying life.
0:56:47 > 0:56:48I really do.
0:57:04 > 0:57:05OK, how about if we go inside?
0:57:05 > 0:57:07I'll show you where your bedroom is.
0:57:07 > 0:57:11This is your comforter. I still owe you a pillow and a set of sheets.
0:57:15 > 0:57:19Here's your bedroom, your closet. This is a three bedroom house.
0:57:19 > 0:57:23- OK, these are your new roommates. This is Mr Elias.- Hello there.
0:57:23 > 0:57:27'I was leaving the world of LA's 290s,
0:57:27 > 0:57:31'feared and suspected for understandable reasons.
0:57:31 > 0:57:36'Some were guilty of the most upsetting crimes imaginable,
0:57:36 > 0:57:40'others apparently remorseful and looking for a new start.
0:57:43 > 0:57:47'It was hard not to wish a better future for them,
0:57:47 > 0:57:52'but for the worst, impossible to forget the pain they'd caused
0:57:52 > 0:57:55'and could possibly cause again.'