0:00:02 > 0:00:05'South Africa, the continent's biggest success story
0:00:05 > 0:00:08'and one of the most stunning countries in the world.'
0:00:08 > 0:00:10Just being a tourist, don't judge me.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13I'm way too cool for things like that.
0:00:13 > 0:00:17'But this country has a very dark past.
0:00:17 > 0:00:20'As a black man, I wouldn't have even been allowed to set foot
0:00:20 > 0:00:23'on this very beach just 20 years ago.'
0:00:23 > 0:00:30This programme contains some strong language
0:00:30 > 0:00:33'For over a century, a white supremacist government
0:00:33 > 0:00:37'controlled the nation and brutally oppressed black people.'
0:00:37 > 0:00:41They've got no education, they've only just come down from the trees.
0:00:41 > 0:00:45'This system of racial separation was called apartheid, and was
0:00:45 > 0:00:51'only abolished in 1994 when Nelson Mandela and the ANC came to power.'
0:00:52 > 0:00:55Today marks the dawn of our freedom.
0:00:55 > 0:00:59There has been such extreme levels of segregation here,
0:00:59 > 0:01:02and knowing that that ended only two decades ago, I'm desperate
0:01:02 > 0:01:05to see how that has changed the lives of people just like me.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07If at all.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09'Poverty is rife here,
0:01:09 > 0:01:13'and today people talk of a new underclass emerging.
0:01:13 > 0:01:15'It's not black people...' That's the way to do it.
0:01:15 > 0:01:16'..but white.'
0:01:18 > 0:01:21I can't imagine anything worse than waking up in there.
0:01:21 > 0:01:24We are going to take that belongs to us!
0:01:24 > 0:01:26'With years of hatred to overcome...'
0:01:30 > 0:01:32'..and both sides still playing the race card...'
0:01:32 > 0:01:37Most white people learned black people the things they know today.
0:01:37 > 0:01:39'I want to find out what life is like
0:01:39 > 0:01:41'for the young white South Africans...'
0:01:41 > 0:01:43Some of them are really racist.
0:01:43 > 0:01:46'..who think they are now bottom of the pile...'
0:01:46 > 0:01:49It's not a place to live here, not for the children.
0:01:49 > 0:01:51If you are black, you're better off.
0:01:51 > 0:01:54If I was a white guy, that would piss me off!
0:01:54 > 0:01:57'..and discover whether the nation will ever move on
0:01:57 > 0:02:00'from its tortured past.'
0:02:00 > 0:02:03Stupid man! We will never agree! Never!
0:02:03 > 0:02:04That's why the world is BLEEP up!
0:02:10 > 0:02:13'Johannesburg, South Africa's biggest city.
0:02:14 > 0:02:18'20 years on from apartheid, some people claim that this country
0:02:18 > 0:02:21'is still governed by racist policies.
0:02:22 > 0:02:26'Only this time, they say it's white people, not black people,
0:02:26 > 0:02:27'being oppressed.'
0:02:29 > 0:02:32What the white experience of Africa is, for me,
0:02:32 > 0:02:35is really, really intriguing.
0:02:35 > 0:02:38Some people believe, since the ANC came into power,
0:02:38 > 0:02:42there's been a flip because all of the opportunities have been afforded
0:02:42 > 0:02:45to the black people, and the white people are now second class citizens
0:02:45 > 0:02:47and are being neglected.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49But that can't be the case, surely.
0:02:51 > 0:02:54'On the edge of the city lies a notorious camp called
0:02:54 > 0:02:57'Coronation Park, a place where some of the
0:02:57 > 0:03:01'hardest hit white South Africans have made their home.'
0:03:01 > 0:03:04Coronation Park fills me with a little bit of apprehension,
0:03:04 > 0:03:08and that apprehension is based on the way that they may take me,
0:03:08 > 0:03:12the way they may receive me, and the way they may judge me
0:03:12 > 0:03:16straight away because I'm a privileged young black man.
0:03:19 > 0:03:22It's made me a little bit more nervous thinking about it.
0:03:22 > 0:03:26'During apartheid, Coronation Park was a picnic place for white
0:03:26 > 0:03:31'middle class families, but it's become something very different...'
0:03:31 > 0:03:32This is it.
0:03:34 > 0:03:37'..a permanent home for a white underclass.'
0:03:40 > 0:03:42DOG BARKS
0:03:45 > 0:03:49It's a camp in the middle of a park.
0:03:49 > 0:03:51They're living in a rough trailer park.
0:03:52 > 0:03:57In the UK you sort of get used to seeing images of young black kids
0:03:57 > 0:04:02in poverty and I've never seen those same images but with white children.
0:04:05 > 0:04:07I'm really thrown by that, it's...
0:04:10 > 0:04:13'Outsiders aren't generally welcome.
0:04:13 > 0:04:17'All new arrivals need permission to be here from the camp leader Irene,
0:04:17 > 0:04:19'who's lived here for eight years.
0:04:19 > 0:04:21'She's agreed to let me stay.'
0:04:21 > 0:04:24To see white people in South Africa barefoot,
0:04:24 > 0:04:27- in a settlement in a park, that's blowing my mind.- Yeah.
0:04:27 > 0:04:31Because that is not what we see, you know, across the pond.
0:04:31 > 0:04:34I mean, we don't see that in Europe. What's the common thread?
0:04:34 > 0:04:37What normally brings people here?
0:04:37 > 0:04:40I don't know, I think because they've lost everything.
0:04:40 > 0:04:42There's no jobs for the white people.
0:04:42 > 0:04:45That, understand, means I'm not racist, or...
0:04:45 > 0:04:47There's no jobs for our white people.
0:04:47 > 0:04:49You're one pay cheque away from this place,
0:04:49 > 0:04:53cos something can happen to you and you will end up here.
0:04:53 > 0:04:54DOG BARKS
0:04:54 > 0:04:57The settlement sort of stretches all the way down.
0:04:57 > 0:04:59Can we have a little look? D'you mind taking me around?
0:04:59 > 0:05:01Yeah, sure, I will take you around and you can take...
0:05:02 > 0:05:06Coronation Park, it's like a white squat again.
0:05:06 > 0:05:10It's like, you can stay here and we will look after you.
0:05:10 > 0:05:13Do they build their own shacks? Do they have to pay to be here?
0:05:13 > 0:05:16- No, they don't pay to be here. - That's literally a shed.
0:05:16 > 0:05:20- Does someone live in this? - In the back of it, yeah.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23Wow. How many people are there in Coronation Park?
0:05:23 > 0:05:25Er, 287.
0:05:25 > 0:05:28- Hello!- Hello.
0:05:28 > 0:05:31We are running on generators, we haven't got power yet.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35'With no proper sanitation
0:05:35 > 0:05:40'and dozens of stray animals roaming around, health is a real concern.
0:05:41 > 0:05:44'The government has repeatedly tried to shut the camp down,
0:05:44 > 0:05:49'and people are forced to do whatever they can to survive.'
0:05:49 > 0:05:51So, I found out that these donkeys, which are boilers,
0:05:51 > 0:05:55they fill it with water, they heat it underneath it or whatever,
0:05:55 > 0:05:57and then it feeds hot water into the...
0:05:58 > 0:06:00..into the house.
0:06:00 > 0:06:02Which is kind of genius, really.
0:06:05 > 0:06:09'The camp is expanding as new people arrive all the time.'
0:06:09 > 0:06:12- How you doing, I'm Reggie. What's your name?- JD.
0:06:12 > 0:06:16'27-year-old artist JD turned up last month with his mum,
0:06:16 > 0:06:19'two kids and pregnant wife.'
0:06:19 > 0:06:20That's absolutely beautiful.
0:06:20 > 0:06:23That's what I do, I travel the whole country painting
0:06:23 > 0:06:26- and drawing all over the place. - So where have you come from?
0:06:26 > 0:06:27Originally from Cape Town.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30How have you ended up here in Coronation Park?
0:06:30 > 0:06:32I've been hit by life, you know?
0:06:34 > 0:06:36Hit to my knees.
0:06:36 > 0:06:39You know, it's difficult for white folks these days, it really is.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42We don't have the ball in our court anymore, and we are not
0:06:42 > 0:06:47the chosen ones, if you want to put it that way, and it's the truth.
0:06:47 > 0:06:50'Most white South Africans are descended from Dutch settlers
0:06:50 > 0:06:52'and called Afrikaans.'
0:06:54 > 0:06:58'During apartheid, they saw themselves as a superior race...'
0:06:58 > 0:07:02We cannot mix with the lower nations unless
0:07:02 > 0:07:05they are cultivated and educated and so on.
0:07:05 > 0:07:09'..given the best houses, jobs and education,
0:07:09 > 0:07:12'creating a super-wealthy white elite.'
0:07:12 > 0:07:14The policy of white supremacy ultimately means
0:07:14 > 0:07:16the denial of all civil and human rights
0:07:16 > 0:07:18to the Africans in the white areas.
0:07:20 > 0:07:23'In 1990, everything changed.
0:07:25 > 0:07:28'The leader of the black resistance, Nelson Mandela,
0:07:28 > 0:07:30'was released from prison.'
0:07:30 > 0:07:34I cherish the ideal of a new South Africa
0:07:34 > 0:07:37where all South Africans are equal.
0:07:37 > 0:07:40'By '94, the ANC won the first free elections
0:07:40 > 0:07:43'the country had ever seen.'
0:07:43 > 0:07:47The people of South Africa have spoken in this election.
0:07:47 > 0:07:49They want change,
0:07:49 > 0:07:53and change is what they will get.
0:07:53 > 0:07:56'And white Afrikaners lost their privileged position.'
0:07:59 > 0:08:03'While over 50% of privately held assets here
0:08:03 > 0:08:05'are still owned by the white minority...
0:08:08 > 0:08:12'..Afrikaner charities believe a new underclass has formed.
0:08:12 > 0:08:13'Estimates vary wildly,
0:08:13 > 0:08:16'but these charities claim up to 400,000 white people
0:08:16 > 0:08:19'may have fallen below the poverty line,
0:08:19 > 0:08:23'with many living in settlements just like this one.'
0:08:24 > 0:08:27- Where shall I put my tent? Where's a good place to pitch up?- There.
0:08:27 > 0:08:29What d'you mean "there?!" I'm not going to put it on that ash!
0:08:29 > 0:08:31- Will you guys help me put up my tent?- Yeah.
0:08:31 > 0:08:34Come on, then, what are we doing? There we go.
0:08:34 > 0:08:39All right, let's peg this up. I've only stayed in a tent once before.
0:08:39 > 0:08:41And, erm, while I was making it
0:08:41 > 0:08:46I wasn't getting whipped in the arse by some kid called Winston!
0:08:46 > 0:08:51- When d'you do this? - Look, look, look! Hey!- Jesus Christ!
0:08:51 > 0:08:55'Nearly a third of all the people living here are under 16.
0:08:55 > 0:08:58'I'm not sure how the future looks for teenagers like Winston.'
0:08:58 > 0:09:00D'you think you'll always live here?
0:09:03 > 0:09:06Do you want to move out of here?
0:09:06 > 0:09:07Why?
0:09:12 > 0:09:14Really? So, if you do move out of here
0:09:14 > 0:09:16and people ask you where you grew up,
0:09:16 > 0:09:19when you're older, when you're my age,
0:09:19 > 0:09:21are you going to say Coronation Park?
0:09:41 > 0:09:42Are you going to look after me
0:09:42 > 0:09:45and give me some sandwiches and tea before bed?
0:09:47 > 0:09:48Can I help out?
0:09:48 > 0:09:51'After dark, more young people flood into the camp.
0:09:51 > 0:09:55'As well as child benefits, many residents survive on handouts,
0:09:55 > 0:09:59'including hot drinks and sandwiches given out three nights a week.'
0:09:59 > 0:10:01You ask them how much coffee they want.
0:10:08 > 0:10:09Coffee or tea?
0:10:14 > 0:10:16How you been, man? You had a good day? What you been doing?
0:10:18 > 0:10:20Drinking today?
0:10:27 > 0:10:29Hey, evening!
0:10:30 > 0:10:32I didn't think about what the rain would do here.
0:10:32 > 0:10:35'Unemployment here is very high.
0:10:35 > 0:10:39'One person who does have a steady job is Irene's son, Harry.
0:10:39 > 0:10:40'He works as a welder.'
0:10:40 > 0:10:42- Hey, Harry!- Hey, how are you?
0:10:42 > 0:10:45I'm good, thank you, man. I've not met you before, I'm Reggie, hello.
0:10:45 > 0:10:47- I'm Ursula. - Hello, lovely to meet you.
0:10:47 > 0:10:50- Is that your wedding pictures I can see?- Yeah.- Scrub up well, don't he?
0:10:50 > 0:10:54- Yeah.- He looks good in a suit. Flowers from the wedding day?- Yeah.
0:10:54 > 0:10:57- You've still got them.- I don't want to throw them away!- Yeah, right!
0:10:57 > 0:11:00How did you and your husband meet? What was his chat-up line?
0:11:00 > 0:11:04- I can't remember!- Yes, you can! Come on, you know what he said.
0:11:04 > 0:11:08- What did he say to you?- He wanted to come drink coffee.- It was coffee?
0:11:08 > 0:11:09- Yeah.- Smooth operator.
0:11:11 > 0:11:14'Despite Harry working, his wage isn't enough to cover
0:11:14 > 0:11:18'rent for a proper house for his wife and three kids.'
0:11:18 > 0:11:23Just how difficult is it to raise a small child in a place like this?
0:11:23 > 0:11:26It is difficult because the generator is on,
0:11:26 > 0:11:29but when you sleep at night and he wakes up, the generator isn't on,
0:11:29 > 0:11:33then you must struggle to get light and whatsoever.
0:11:33 > 0:11:35And there isn't always hot water
0:11:35 > 0:11:40because you must make fire to get hot water.
0:11:40 > 0:11:42So, yeah, that's a problem.
0:11:42 > 0:11:45Do you worry about, erm, how healthy a situation it is for him,
0:11:45 > 0:11:48because I imagine it's probably quite easy for him to get ill?
0:11:48 > 0:11:51This place is dirty, you know.
0:11:51 > 0:11:56- We've got the sewerage drain, er, right behind the wall here.- Mm.
0:11:56 > 0:12:01When it's full, it comes out and that, that smell stays here,
0:12:01 > 0:12:03- it makes us sick...- Yeah.
0:12:03 > 0:12:07..quickly, especially with the small one and Xander,
0:12:07 > 0:12:09they get sick fast, you know?
0:12:09 > 0:12:12It's not a place to live here, not for the children.
0:12:12 > 0:12:13Can't live here anymore.
0:12:17 > 0:12:18I tried my best from the start.
0:12:18 > 0:12:21I was working since I was 16, you know?
0:12:21 > 0:12:26Erm, and from then, I just tried, you know,
0:12:26 > 0:12:31build up my education and try to be what I am.
0:12:31 > 0:12:32You look quite emotional.
0:12:32 > 0:12:36Oh, yes, when it come to my kids and my wife, yeah.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38What is it about your family that makes you so emotional?
0:12:39 > 0:12:44Er, I think it's because, er, I know I try hard, you know?
0:12:44 > 0:12:47Er, maybe I don't try hard enough.
0:12:47 > 0:12:52I don't know, but to see them suffer like this, it, it makes me...
0:12:52 > 0:12:56Do you think your children are suffering?
0:12:56 > 0:13:00Erm, well, they don't have the life, what I want for them,
0:13:00 > 0:13:03you know, and I think that, for them, is suffering, you know?
0:13:07 > 0:13:11The harsh reality of being at the bottom of the ladder out here
0:13:11 > 0:13:13is that that can happen to you.
0:13:13 > 0:13:15This is it for them.
0:13:20 > 0:13:22It'll kind of keep you awake, won't it?
0:13:30 > 0:13:32REGGIE SIGHS
0:13:35 > 0:13:37- Wake up!- Wake up!- Oh, God!
0:13:37 > 0:13:41- Wake up.- Wake up. - What's wrong with you lot?
0:13:41 > 0:13:43Come out!
0:13:43 > 0:13:46- And do what? - We'll play cricket.- Play cricket?!
0:13:55 > 0:13:56You don't need your fingers!
0:13:56 > 0:13:57Ah, come on, bro!
0:14:04 > 0:14:06That's the way to do it.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09You're going to go home smelling like smoke...
0:14:09 > 0:14:11I can live with that so long as I'm warm.
0:14:11 > 0:14:13What was your first night like here?
0:14:13 > 0:14:15Terrible, cos it felt like there's
0:14:15 > 0:14:19a bunch of serial killers standing around.
0:14:19 > 0:14:22I'm really glad I asked you this question after my first night.
0:14:22 > 0:14:26'Sleeping here as a grown man is one thing, but in a few months,
0:14:26 > 0:14:29'JD will have a newborn baby to share his tent with.'
0:14:29 > 0:14:34How does it feel knowing that your newborn will be brought here?
0:14:34 > 0:14:39Talking to Irene and them, they all know about the baby coming.
0:14:39 > 0:14:46And I know, in my heart, it will be OK, cos they're going to help us.
0:14:46 > 0:14:47They will help us.
0:14:47 > 0:14:51I've heard about it recently, I've read in the papers that the
0:14:51 > 0:14:55people around here might qualify for government housing.
0:14:55 > 0:14:58- But...- Why wouldn't you, though? If ever there was anybody
0:14:58 > 0:15:00that needed help, particularly with a baby on the way,
0:15:00 > 0:15:02I'd have thought that you'd be...
0:15:02 > 0:15:08- You'd be perfect for it.- To me, government housing is a dream.
0:15:08 > 0:15:09I don't quite, erm...I don't...
0:15:11 > 0:15:14I don't see myself qualifying for a government house.
0:15:14 > 0:15:19'Over two million people are waiting for social housing in South Africa,
0:15:19 > 0:15:23'so it's no surprise that JD doubts his chances of getting one.
0:15:23 > 0:15:26'The wider situation is even more complicated,
0:15:26 > 0:15:29'as race still plays a part in some opportunities here.
0:15:33 > 0:15:36'I've come to the centre of Joburg to meet an old mate of mine,
0:15:36 > 0:15:40'celebrity DJ Sizwe, to get a different perspective.
0:15:40 > 0:15:43'What's happening now for young black South Africans?'
0:15:43 > 0:15:46- Oh, Reg, what's up? - How you doing?- It's been years!
0:15:46 > 0:15:48I'm well, thanks, how's it going with you?
0:15:48 > 0:15:49I'm really good, man,
0:15:49 > 0:15:51I'm glad to be in your neck of the woods, as it were.
0:15:51 > 0:15:54- OK, let's go to where you know. - Take you where the girls are.
0:15:54 > 0:15:58You're desperately trying to get me in trouble with my girlfriend.
0:15:58 > 0:15:59It's a good start, you know?
0:16:02 > 0:16:05'Sizwe is what's known here as a "black diamond",
0:16:05 > 0:16:09'a young black guy with a very healthy bank balance.'
0:16:09 > 0:16:12- Would people refer to you as a "black diamond"? - I guess some people would.
0:16:12 > 0:16:14I'm a diamond in the rough.
0:16:14 > 0:16:15I need some polishing!
0:16:17 > 0:16:20'But people like Sizwe are relatively rare.
0:16:20 > 0:16:24'Most of the wealth here is still in the hands of the old white masters,
0:16:24 > 0:16:27'and they live in lavish gated communities.'
0:16:27 > 0:16:30- Is this one property?- Yeah. The houses, they're just obscene.
0:16:30 > 0:16:34There's a huge gap in SA between those that have and those that don't.
0:16:34 > 0:16:36Is that why the walls are so high and security's...?
0:16:36 > 0:16:38That's why the walls are so high.
0:16:38 > 0:16:41- Look, this is barbed wire, there's gates...- Yeah, electronic fences.
0:16:41 > 0:16:44'To try to re-balance wealth and opportunity, the government
0:16:44 > 0:16:49'has brought in a policy called affirmative action, AA for short.'
0:16:49 > 0:16:52'It's already transformed areas like the courtroom,
0:16:52 > 0:16:56'where over 60% of the most senior judges are now black.'
0:16:57 > 0:17:01'And the dream is to repeat that across all walks of life.'
0:17:01 > 0:17:06In SA, if you are black, you're better off.
0:17:06 > 0:17:09- Right now.- Well, why's that? Because it wasn't the case 20 years ago.
0:17:09 > 0:17:11Just cos of everything, man, like,
0:17:11 > 0:17:13the odds are stacked in your favour now.
0:17:13 > 0:17:15Affirmative action...
0:17:15 > 0:17:17If I applied for a job, right,
0:17:17 > 0:17:21and a guy my age, same education as me,
0:17:21 > 0:17:25applied for the same position, er, but he was white,
0:17:25 > 0:17:26I'd get the job, hands down.
0:17:26 > 0:17:30I mean, if I was a white guy, that would piss me off!
0:17:30 > 0:17:32But you've got to look at it this way, right?
0:17:32 > 0:17:34I always use a sports analogy.
0:17:34 > 0:17:36If there's been a soccer game going on,
0:17:36 > 0:17:40but for the first 45 minutes they've just been cheating,
0:17:40 > 0:17:45and then you get to half-time and the score's like, 45-0, right?
0:17:45 > 0:17:47And then in half-time, they go,
0:17:47 > 0:17:49"OK, wait, wait, we realise we've been cheating,
0:17:49 > 0:17:51"we're going to get a fair ref now."
0:17:51 > 0:17:56- But they keep the score at 45-0, it's still an unfair game, right?- Right.
0:17:56 > 0:17:59So what you need to do is maybe, er,
0:17:59 > 0:18:02nullify the score or give the other team 45 as well.
0:18:02 > 0:18:04But does that make it OK?
0:18:04 > 0:18:07It doesn't make it OK, but it makes it understandable.
0:18:07 > 0:18:09There's Joe's. Let's eat.
0:18:11 > 0:18:13Thank you, brother, you all right?
0:18:15 > 0:18:16Talking to Sizwe in the car,
0:18:16 > 0:18:18you know, one of the things that kept coming up
0:18:18 > 0:18:20was the swing of power,
0:18:20 > 0:18:23and the white people feeling marginalised
0:18:23 > 0:18:26and feeling that they don't get the opportunities anymore.
0:18:26 > 0:18:27Reverse racism, I guess.
0:18:27 > 0:18:30It's a very different time now, and if you're black you will get
0:18:30 > 0:18:33opportunities in a way that you never used to.
0:18:35 > 0:18:40'I've grown up thinking equality is about treating everyone the same.
0:18:40 > 0:18:44'But here, things are different. Without extra help,
0:18:44 > 0:18:48'Sizwe and his friends might have been left behind for years to come.'
0:18:53 > 0:18:54'In Coronation Park,
0:18:54 > 0:18:59'handouts from charity have become part of everyday life.
0:18:59 > 0:19:02'The parents have pulled together to run a nursery.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05Most of the toys and equipment are donations.'
0:19:05 > 0:19:08Hello, guys. What are you doing? What's all this about?
0:19:08 > 0:19:11Well, we're representatives from our group on campus
0:19:11 > 0:19:15at the University of Pretoria, called AfriForum Youth.
0:19:15 > 0:19:17Bringing some food, some toys...
0:19:17 > 0:19:19- Toothpaste.- And lots of toothpaste.
0:19:19 > 0:19:22It's a bunch of the stuff that people take for granted,
0:19:22 > 0:19:24but these people, they don't have it,
0:19:24 > 0:19:27they don't have the opportunities, they don't have the money to buy it.
0:19:27 > 0:19:29Yeah. Thank you.
0:19:29 > 0:19:30Hello!
0:19:30 > 0:19:33'AfriForum is a right wing political pressure group
0:19:33 > 0:19:35'fighting for white rights.'
0:19:36 > 0:19:38Why d'you think there's more and more people
0:19:38 > 0:19:41struggling in South Africa? White people specifically.
0:19:41 > 0:19:44Er, the government has started implementing some policies to,
0:19:44 > 0:19:47what they call, adjust the wrongs done in the past.
0:19:47 > 0:19:51And they see as the past, er, black people were poor
0:19:51 > 0:19:52and white people were rich,
0:19:52 > 0:19:56so now they're helping only the black people instead of the white people.
0:19:59 > 0:20:01All of two minutes and everything has pretty much gone.
0:20:01 > 0:20:03It shows you these people can't even afford
0:20:03 > 0:20:06the most basic stuff, that we take for granted.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09So you believe the white people are essentially discriminated against?
0:20:09 > 0:20:11For me, personally, I would say so, yes.
0:20:11 > 0:20:14Would you put it down to something as simple as reverse racism?
0:20:14 > 0:20:17It is, it is. It is just reverse from what happened in the past.
0:20:17 > 0:20:20It's definitely a struggle for young white people in South Africa,
0:20:20 > 0:20:24but in terms of the history for black people in South Africa...
0:20:24 > 0:20:27- Yes, yes, mm...- ..it's just not that easy to move on.
0:20:27 > 0:20:30We're not talking about the past. We're talking about today.
0:20:30 > 0:20:31I mean, this is real.
0:20:31 > 0:20:34This is seriously real, this is what's happening now.
0:20:34 > 0:20:36And we need to address that.
0:20:36 > 0:20:39It's no longer about black and white in this country.
0:20:39 > 0:20:43There's poor people from each racial group, there's a lot of them.
0:20:43 > 0:20:45We've passed that.
0:20:48 > 0:20:52'If I was white, I'd want to move on from my dark history too,
0:20:52 > 0:20:56'but white South Africans weren't the ones being brutally oppressed.'
0:20:59 > 0:21:03'Until the '90s, on these very streets, the ruling whites,
0:21:03 > 0:21:08'or Boers, treated black people as little better than animals.'
0:21:08 > 0:21:11I don't like apartheid because in apartheid Europeans go up
0:21:11 > 0:21:13and Africans go down.
0:21:15 > 0:21:18'They were forcibly removed from their homes to live together
0:21:18 > 0:21:23'in massive ring-fenced compounds, which later grew into townships.'
0:21:24 > 0:21:27- I don't like it. - Why do you live there, then?
0:21:27 > 0:21:29Because they said we have to.
0:21:31 > 0:21:35'Made to work the most menial jobs, denied a vote, basic rights,
0:21:35 > 0:21:39'or even the opportunity to walk the streets freely.'
0:21:39 > 0:21:43All movements of the black man are controlled, the white man need
0:21:43 > 0:21:46not carry his card, but if the black man does not, he is arrested.
0:21:48 > 0:21:51'Everything was ruthlessly enforced by the white regime.'
0:21:55 > 0:21:57'I want to find out what it was like
0:21:57 > 0:22:00'living under white rule on these streets.'
0:22:02 > 0:22:04'So I've come to meet 28-year-old Colin.
0:22:04 > 0:22:08'He grew up in Alexandria, a township still full of black people,
0:22:08 > 0:22:10'many living in poverty.'
0:22:10 > 0:22:13As a kid, you were actually, I guess, old enough at seven or eight
0:22:13 > 0:22:14- to remember... - Between that age, yes.
0:22:14 > 0:22:17Yeah, to remember some of the things that happened during apartheid.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19What sticks out in your mind during that era?
0:22:19 > 0:22:22I remember when we called them the "mellow yellow vans",
0:22:22 > 0:22:24it was the police state vans.
0:22:24 > 0:22:26Immediately, you'd see that yellow van,
0:22:26 > 0:22:28you knew you had to run to save your life
0:22:28 > 0:22:30because you never knew what would be predicted
0:22:30 > 0:22:32from the police or the state police.
0:22:32 > 0:22:35Cos at times they would just literally stop to beat you up
0:22:35 > 0:22:38or not want you to congregate in the streets in groups.
0:22:38 > 0:22:42And even today, you know, police are not the most likeable
0:22:42 > 0:22:45people in the townships, for that matter.
0:22:45 > 0:22:47People see the police van, they see their enemy.
0:22:47 > 0:22:50In the mind of somebody like myself from the UK, when we think
0:22:50 > 0:22:54of segregation, the first thing that comes to mind is the US in the '60s
0:22:54 > 0:22:57and the struggles of black people in America.
0:22:57 > 0:23:00- But this was going on in the '90s! - In the '90s, yes, I mean...
0:23:00 > 0:23:03It's so hard to get your head around, that's unbelievable.
0:23:03 > 0:23:07I mean, the last time it happened, it is 1994, which sounds like yesterday.
0:23:09 > 0:23:12'Black people who broke the apartheid laws were sent to
0:23:12 > 0:23:15'prisons like this one, called the Old Fort.
0:23:15 > 0:23:20'Nelson Mandela was incarcerated here whilst awaiting trial.'
0:23:20 > 0:23:24The only time you'd find white wardens in this section, it is
0:23:24 > 0:23:28when they came to render humiliation towards the black prisoners.
0:23:28 > 0:23:31They would perform a strip search dance called the "tausa dance".
0:23:31 > 0:23:33Strip search dance? What was the dance?
0:23:33 > 0:23:36The dance stipulated you strip naked, you spread your legs,
0:23:36 > 0:23:39you spread your arms, clap the hands above the head,
0:23:39 > 0:23:43leap in the air making a clicking sound, stretch your legs,
0:23:43 > 0:23:45and if no objects had fallen down,
0:23:45 > 0:23:48then the authorities would go to the extent of inserting a finger
0:23:48 > 0:23:52or a torch inside their rectums to see if there's nothing hidden.
0:23:52 > 0:23:56- A torch?- A torch.- Men and women?
0:23:56 > 0:23:58Men and women, yes.
0:23:58 > 0:23:59Wow.
0:24:01 > 0:24:04'The most severe punishments were reserved for those who fought
0:24:04 > 0:24:06'to change the system.
0:24:06 > 0:24:10'These freedom fighters were kept in solitary confinement
0:24:10 > 0:24:11'as a warning to others.'
0:24:12 > 0:24:14Political leaders were sent here.
0:24:14 > 0:24:16It was the most severe form of punishment.
0:24:16 > 0:24:21Lying down flat on the ground, you feel like lying down in a grave.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24So there weren't beds in here, there weren't desks, there weren't chairs?
0:24:24 > 0:24:27There were no beds, no chairs.
0:24:27 > 0:24:29They were locked up here for 23 hours
0:24:29 > 0:24:31and only released for an hour of the day.
0:24:37 > 0:24:41I guess this was where prisoners were chained to.
0:24:41 > 0:24:45'It's amazing to think South Africa has gone from official government
0:24:45 > 0:24:48'brutality towards black people to affirmative action,
0:24:48 > 0:24:51'from just my parents' generation to mine.
0:24:51 > 0:24:58There's been so much injustice here that the anger is still so fresh,
0:24:58 > 0:25:01and just putting my mum's face
0:25:01 > 0:25:05to this environment makes me angry,
0:25:05 > 0:25:08and that's just imagining it.
0:25:08 > 0:25:10Not living it.
0:25:13 > 0:25:15On face value,
0:25:15 > 0:25:18it's bang out of order that white people aren't being given
0:25:18 > 0:25:20the same opportunities as black people,
0:25:20 > 0:25:24but when you think about how long it's been weighed in the favour
0:25:24 > 0:25:29of the minority, you can understand why it's been put in place.
0:25:29 > 0:25:33I'm not saying that I agree with it, but what I'm saying is,
0:25:33 > 0:25:35I get why so many people are still angry
0:25:35 > 0:25:38and why they think that it is imperative that it's in place.
0:25:42 > 0:25:44'Although black and white South Africans now enjoy
0:25:44 > 0:25:48'all the same freedoms, Statistics South Africa claims that
0:25:48 > 0:25:52'nearly 16 million black people still live in poverty here.
0:25:52 > 0:25:56'On that level, extra help for them makes sense.'
0:25:58 > 0:26:00I'm holding the bat the right way, it's a good start.
0:26:01 > 0:26:05'But I'm not sure where that leaves the squatters in Coronation Park.
0:26:05 > 0:26:09'I can't help wondering what people like Irene make of it,
0:26:09 > 0:26:12'after being part of the privileged minority for years.'
0:26:12 > 0:26:14Do you think that it's fair? Do you think it's right?
0:26:14 > 0:26:17- I think, yeah. You know what? - You think it's fair?
0:26:17 > 0:26:21You know what? That's what I said, and I said it today,
0:26:21 > 0:26:24if our fathers and our fathers and fathers
0:26:24 > 0:26:27and fathers treated black people like normal people,
0:26:27 > 0:26:31and didn't, erm, let them work like slaves
0:26:31 > 0:26:36and treat them like dogs, maybe it would be different today.
0:26:36 > 0:26:38That's the way, it's life.
0:26:38 > 0:26:42Cos it's time now for us to pay for what our fathers did.
0:26:42 > 0:26:44And there's nothing you can do about that.
0:26:46 > 0:26:49'Irene strikes me as being resigned to her fate.
0:26:49 > 0:26:53But her son Harry is desperate to get his family out of here.'
0:26:53 > 0:26:56Your mum said that she thinks it's almost a little bit
0:26:56 > 0:26:59like a balance now, it's almost more fair for the black people.
0:26:59 > 0:27:01Do you agree with that or disagree?
0:27:01 > 0:27:02I think that's bullshit.
0:27:02 > 0:27:0620 years ago, I still had fuck all, so now I've got nothing, now they,
0:27:06 > 0:27:08they think it's balanced out.
0:27:08 > 0:27:10What happened years ago with the black people
0:27:10 > 0:27:13and the white people was nothing to do with me.
0:27:13 > 0:27:15I wasn't there, I didn't fight the battles
0:27:15 > 0:27:18with the white people and the black people.
0:27:18 > 0:27:21So you're saying your generation have done nothing to deserve this?
0:27:21 > 0:27:23- Is that how you feel? - Yeah, that's how I feel.
0:27:23 > 0:27:27Most white people learned black people the things they know today,
0:27:27 > 0:27:29especially in my company.
0:27:29 > 0:27:33And at the end, they walk out, get a better job with my knowledge,
0:27:33 > 0:27:36and we sit in the shadow where we are today.
0:27:36 > 0:27:41They feel marginalised, they feel that they're still suffering from...
0:27:41 > 0:27:44the people that, that caused the apartheid, you know?
0:27:44 > 0:27:47The time when it was like the Boer,
0:27:47 > 0:27:52when they called themselves Boer, had the country in their hands,
0:27:52 > 0:27:55there was more food in our country, more job opportunities...
0:27:55 > 0:27:59That was also the apartheid, though, right? When the Boer were in charge.
0:27:59 > 0:28:02Yeah, but they still, still the black people had jobs,
0:28:02 > 0:28:04- and they were still... - They had no rights, though.
0:28:04 > 0:28:07Yeah, they didn't have rights, but even the white people,
0:28:07 > 0:28:09what rights do we have?
0:28:09 > 0:28:13- But then, at that time, it wasn't anything like now.- Yeah, it wasn't.
0:28:13 > 0:28:15I can't say because I wasn't there.
0:28:15 > 0:28:20It feels the same way, the way that they have, er, er,
0:28:20 > 0:28:24had by the time that we're apartheid or whatsoever.
0:28:24 > 0:28:26OK, well, we'll agree to disagree on that one,
0:28:26 > 0:28:29cos I think that it's a very different situation.
0:28:29 > 0:28:32But how? It's a black government, it's a black country.
0:28:32 > 0:28:36They don't want white people here, that's what I think.
0:28:36 > 0:28:39'Some of the stuff that he said made my blood boil.
0:28:39 > 0:28:41'I don't agree with his views,
0:28:41 > 0:28:43'but he wants a better life for his son
0:28:43 > 0:28:45'and he feels that the way things are,
0:28:45 > 0:28:47'that's just not going to happen.'
0:28:47 > 0:28:50Being in this, and this being your world in its entirety,
0:28:50 > 0:28:52I understand why you might feel that way.
0:28:59 > 0:29:02'It may sit uncomfortably, but at least part of the reason
0:29:02 > 0:29:06'Harry is stuck here could be because of affirmative action.
0:29:06 > 0:29:10'And if it continues, I worry that Coronation Park could keep growing,
0:29:10 > 0:29:14'creating more race resentment for young people in South Africa.'
0:29:15 > 0:29:17Mad how different this place is in the dark, isn't it?
0:29:17 > 0:29:19I just think it's a bit more intimidating.
0:29:19 > 0:29:21Cos you just don't know...
0:29:21 > 0:29:25where you are, what's around...
0:29:25 > 0:29:29and, erm, what you're walking into, you know.
0:29:29 > 0:29:31Definitely is a different vibe here.
0:29:32 > 0:29:35- Hey, guys.- Hi-aye!
0:29:35 > 0:29:36What are you attending to?
0:29:36 > 0:29:38For the true camp experience you have to sit on the stump.
0:29:38 > 0:29:40There's a very dangerous spider around.
0:29:40 > 0:29:44If he calls, you call it a suck spinacle. That thing can kill you.
0:29:44 > 0:29:48Why are you saying that before I sit down on the stump?
0:29:48 > 0:29:50I don't want a suck spinacle getting in my bum!
0:29:52 > 0:29:54With the way things are set up here,
0:29:54 > 0:29:58there are so many hurdles for you to get back to where you were.
0:29:58 > 0:30:00There are things in the way that aren't your fault.
0:30:01 > 0:30:03And that just makes me angry.
0:30:03 > 0:30:05I can't really say it's not my fault.
0:30:06 > 0:30:07I ended up here for a reason.
0:30:09 > 0:30:13Nobody comes in here just because the country's screwed up.
0:30:14 > 0:30:17Nobody comes in here like that.
0:30:17 > 0:30:21They come in here because THEY screwed up.
0:30:21 > 0:30:23You can't blame everything on the system.
0:30:23 > 0:30:26That's the first time I've heard ownership since I've been here.
0:30:26 > 0:30:27LAUGHING: Ownership.
0:30:27 > 0:30:30It's the first time I've heard ownership.
0:30:30 > 0:30:33Even a rich guy can find himself here...
0:30:33 > 0:30:34in two weeks.
0:30:34 > 0:30:36Ask me.
0:30:36 > 0:30:38I've lost everything.
0:30:38 > 0:30:40I lived the dream.
0:30:41 > 0:30:43I was a rock star.
0:30:45 > 0:30:47In my head, I still am.
0:30:48 > 0:30:50I used to sign...
0:30:51 > 0:30:55..boobs for a living, you know?
0:30:55 > 0:31:00And I had a selfish life, but I lived the dream. I did.
0:31:00 > 0:31:04And everything, it went wrong.
0:31:04 > 0:31:08I had it and I lost it in a couple of days.
0:31:11 > 0:31:16'Just a few years ago, JD was living in his own house with a pool,
0:31:16 > 0:31:18'but since his music career ended,
0:31:18 > 0:31:21'he struggled to find his feet in modern South Africa,
0:31:21 > 0:31:25'and has been moving with his mum from place to place.
0:31:26 > 0:31:29'This camp is full of people who've left their homes
0:31:29 > 0:31:31'but don't know where they'll end up.
0:31:34 > 0:31:36'Coronation Park isn't the only place
0:31:36 > 0:31:38'that poor whites are squatting.
0:31:38 > 0:31:41'Local newspapers report there are now over 80 camps
0:31:41 > 0:31:43'dotted around Pretoria.
0:31:43 > 0:31:47'This was once the spiritual homeland of the Afrikaner Nation,
0:31:47 > 0:31:50'but, in modern South Africa, the idea of a nation
0:31:50 > 0:31:55'where white people are in charge clearly has no future.'
0:31:55 > 0:31:58It's not like a block of flats in its most traditional sense.
0:32:00 > 0:32:03But it definitely looks run down.
0:32:04 > 0:32:07There seems to be both black and white here as well.
0:32:07 > 0:32:10'This settlement is an abandoned care home.
0:32:10 > 0:32:13'As well as the poor Afrikaners,
0:32:13 > 0:32:15'it's home to lots of recent black immigrants
0:32:15 > 0:32:17'from all over the continent.'
0:32:19 > 0:32:24'Black or white, this place really does feel like the end of the line.'
0:32:41 > 0:32:42Hello?
0:32:43 > 0:32:47- Hi.- Hi. Can I come in and talk to you guys? Is that OK?- Sure.
0:32:53 > 0:32:56- How's it going, man? I'm Reggie. - How's it? I'm Hardus.
0:32:56 > 0:32:57- Hello, nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you.
0:32:57 > 0:32:59- Hello. Can we come in? - Yeah, come in.
0:32:59 > 0:33:01- Is that all right? Hello.- Hi.
0:33:01 > 0:33:04- I'm Reggie.- Vivienne. - Nice to meet you, Vivienne.
0:33:04 > 0:33:05Is this your little one?
0:33:05 > 0:33:07- Is that your youngster?- Yeah.
0:33:07 > 0:33:10This is my first one, this is my second one.
0:33:10 > 0:33:12Wow. Congratulations.
0:33:12 > 0:33:14- So is this your family in here, yeah?- Yeah.
0:33:14 > 0:33:18- How old are you guys? - I'm 20 and he's 25.
0:33:18 > 0:33:19How long have you guys lived here?
0:33:19 > 0:33:21We've lived here for basically four years now.
0:33:21 > 0:33:24Who else lives in here, cos there's doors all
0:33:24 > 0:33:26the way down the corridor, and they're all sealed?
0:33:26 > 0:33:29It's only whites. There's no black in these rooms.
0:33:29 > 0:33:31There's three or four other buildings here.
0:33:31 > 0:33:35- Do the blacks keep to themselves? - Most of the time.- Yeah.
0:33:35 > 0:33:37Why do you think that is?
0:33:37 > 0:33:39Some of them are very racist.
0:33:39 > 0:33:42And inside here, they're also very racist.
0:33:43 > 0:33:46- Yeah.- Most of the people, if they do know you, and they do have
0:33:46 > 0:33:49respect for you, they actually just intentionally leave you alone.
0:33:49 > 0:33:51You leave them alone and they leave you alone.
0:33:51 > 0:33:53The only other place where I've heard someone
0:33:53 > 0:33:54speak like that is prison.
0:33:54 > 0:33:57That's the only other place where I've heard people speak
0:33:57 > 0:33:59about looking after yourself. Is that how you see it?
0:33:59 > 0:34:01That's how it works here.
0:34:01 > 0:34:04I'd love to see the rest of this building.
0:34:04 > 0:34:07- Is it possible for you to show me around? Can I see some more?- Yep.
0:34:07 > 0:34:09- It's a bit dark down here. - Yeah, no kidding.
0:34:09 > 0:34:12My grandmother's staying here. Vivienne's grandmother, actually.
0:34:12 > 0:34:15- Wow, so it's the whole family... - Yeah, well, it's the...
0:34:15 > 0:34:16Your little one's just here.
0:34:16 > 0:34:21It's the grandmother and Vivienne's mother that actually got us here.
0:34:21 > 0:34:24What's this through here? Is this shared?
0:34:24 > 0:34:25Everything's shared, but unfortunately,
0:34:25 > 0:34:27not everything works either.
0:34:27 > 0:34:30The toilets, they're permanently blocked.
0:34:30 > 0:34:32These tubs, they don't work at all.
0:34:32 > 0:34:35They've got water, but only cold water.
0:34:35 > 0:34:37Showers.
0:34:37 > 0:34:38Look at that.
0:34:38 > 0:34:40Needles, drugs.
0:34:40 > 0:34:42So, that's everywhere now?
0:34:42 > 0:34:45Yeah, too many drug dealers moved in, too many junkies moved in.
0:34:45 > 0:34:47We all know that it's not safe for the kids.
0:34:49 > 0:34:52'Crime is rife here. But that's not the only danger.'
0:34:52 > 0:34:54These buildings are so old.
0:34:54 > 0:34:57If these roofs catch fire, it's over, it's done.
0:34:57 > 0:35:02'Two months ago, a resident built a fire in their room to keep warm.
0:35:02 > 0:35:04'Unfortunately, it got out of control
0:35:04 > 0:35:06'and tore through an entire building.'
0:35:10 > 0:35:12This is awful. Do people actually live in here, still?
0:35:12 > 0:35:14People still actually live here.
0:35:16 > 0:35:19There's at least a roof over their heads.
0:35:19 > 0:35:22I can't imagine anything worse than waking up in there.
0:35:23 > 0:35:27I think in, what, 20 minutes, it was the whole wing.
0:35:29 > 0:35:35This is the hardest I think I've seen it in South Africa.
0:35:35 > 0:35:38What's the future look like for your little girl, then?
0:35:38 > 0:35:41In South Africa, I wouldn't say too good.
0:35:42 > 0:35:45'Neither Hardus nor Vivienne have a legitimate job.
0:35:45 > 0:35:49'To get by, they run an unlicensed shop out of their window.'
0:35:49 > 0:35:53It's difficult for us to get work in South Africa, especially me.
0:35:53 > 0:35:56When I just moved into Pretoria in 2010,
0:35:56 > 0:36:00I had 60 CVs that I actually gave out, resumes that I gave out
0:36:00 > 0:36:03to places, and it's difficult to find work in South Africa.
0:36:03 > 0:36:06Not even one says, "I'm going to call you back."
0:36:06 > 0:36:08- Nothing. - Why do you think it's so hard?
0:36:08 > 0:36:10Working places are racist as well.
0:36:10 > 0:36:13Not racist. You need more black employment than whites.
0:36:13 > 0:36:15It's how they work. If your skin colour is not correct,
0:36:15 > 0:36:18unfortunately, you're not going to get it.
0:36:19 > 0:36:22'With no job, the family lives hand to mouth,
0:36:22 > 0:36:25'so tonight's dinner depends on the little money the shop makes...
0:36:27 > 0:36:30'..which, today, was nothing.'
0:36:30 > 0:36:33Unfortunately, there's no money to buy anything tonight, but I've still
0:36:33 > 0:36:38got some macaroni left and soup, so that's what we'll be eating tonight.
0:36:38 > 0:36:41Macaroni and soup. That's what you have here, yeah?
0:36:41 > 0:36:42That's what I have here for now.
0:36:46 > 0:36:49I don't want to seem judgemental or anything,
0:36:49 > 0:36:52but it almost feels like this isn't...
0:36:52 > 0:36:54This isn't a life.
0:36:58 > 0:37:02'Like anyone, I find it hard to witness poverty,
0:37:02 > 0:37:06'but here in South Africa, it is very common.
0:37:06 > 0:37:09'Their Institute Of Race Relations claims a staggering 45%
0:37:09 > 0:37:13'of black South African's also live below the breadline.
0:37:13 > 0:37:17'But that doesn't make the plight of poor whites any easier to stomach.'
0:37:19 > 0:37:22I can hear some music playing. Who's playing that music?
0:37:22 > 0:37:24- All the rich people.- What?
0:37:24 > 0:37:28Do the rich guys come round here, park up their cars,
0:37:28 > 0:37:31- play music and hang out?- Yeah.
0:37:31 > 0:37:36When I was like these people, I was exactly the same way.
0:37:36 > 0:37:39Can you believe it's two different worlds?
0:37:39 > 0:37:42Can you believe it?
0:37:42 > 0:37:45- Can I be completely honest with you? - Yes.
0:37:45 > 0:37:49When you spoke about rich people, in my head, I had white people.
0:37:51 > 0:37:53- Yeah, not at all, eh? - They're all black guys.
0:37:53 > 0:37:55They're all black guys.
0:37:55 > 0:37:59Look, most of them are young people.
0:38:01 > 0:38:04So...they're getting what they deserve now.
0:38:04 > 0:38:06Fairness.
0:38:06 > 0:38:11- Is this fair?- Their mums and dads wasn't treated this way.
0:38:11 > 0:38:14They wouldn't have been allowed to come here,
0:38:14 > 0:38:19so them enjoying their freedom, there's nothing wrong with that.
0:38:19 > 0:38:22You should go and ask THEM what they think about Coronation Park,
0:38:22 > 0:38:25- and you'll get your answer. - I'm going to do that now.
0:38:25 > 0:38:28LOUD URBAN MUSIC PLAYS
0:38:31 > 0:38:33Hello, guys, how you doing?
0:38:33 > 0:38:36Brother, hello. Where have you guys come from tonight?
0:38:36 > 0:38:38- Soweto?- Yes.
0:38:38 > 0:38:40- So you guys are from the township? - Yes.- Nice.
0:38:40 > 0:38:42- And you come out here to enjoy yourselves for the night.- Yes.
0:38:43 > 0:38:46'South Africa has come a long way.
0:38:46 > 0:38:49'Some middle class black people live in Soweto now,
0:38:49 > 0:38:52'with cars, jobs and money.
0:38:52 > 0:38:54'And whilst it's strange to think this party
0:38:54 > 0:38:57'wouldn't have even been allowed 20 years ago,
0:38:57 > 0:38:59'it's even stranger that it IS happening
0:38:59 > 0:39:01'right next to the tents and shacks
0:39:01 > 0:39:04'of hundreds of impoverished Afrikaners.'
0:39:05 > 0:39:07There's a group of people living just over there.
0:39:07 > 0:39:10Permanently staying, living there or what?
0:39:10 > 0:39:12You didn't know that they were there?
0:39:12 > 0:39:15No, I didn't know anything, because this is a park.
0:39:15 > 0:39:19- I'm living in that camp tonight. - You won't get white people here.
0:39:19 > 0:39:21- Understand?- You won't get white people living in the park?
0:39:21 > 0:39:26- You won't.- Well, I'm staying there tonight and there's a lot.
0:39:26 > 0:39:31- OK.- There's over 100. - White people aren't living there.
0:39:31 > 0:39:34- They are three days, then they are going home.- No, eight years.
0:39:34 > 0:39:36No, you're lying.
0:39:36 > 0:39:39You don't believe there could be that many white people
0:39:39 > 0:39:41- living that way over there? Why not?- I don't believe.
0:39:41 > 0:39:44- Why not?- I'm telling you straight. You're lying.- No.
0:39:44 > 0:39:50I came over this hill expecting, sort of, arrogant, rich white kids.
0:39:50 > 0:39:52It was quite the opposite.
0:39:53 > 0:39:57'White families still earn six times more than black ones on average,
0:39:57 > 0:40:00'so I can understand the stereotypes. I hold them too.
0:40:01 > 0:40:04But if black people can't even accept white poverty,
0:40:04 > 0:40:08I can't see a way out for JD and Hardus.
0:40:14 > 0:40:17Johannesburg isn't totally divided.
0:40:17 > 0:40:20Throughout the city, there are pockets of integration,
0:40:20 > 0:40:22like here at Neighbourgoods Market,
0:40:22 > 0:40:26where being black or white simply isn't an issue.
0:40:26 > 0:40:28Are you guys actually a couple?
0:40:28 > 0:40:30Yeah, we are. Getting married in a couple of weeks.
0:40:30 > 0:40:31Congratulations! Wow.
0:40:31 > 0:40:33I want to be honest with you.
0:40:33 > 0:40:35This is the last thing I expected to see here,
0:40:35 > 0:40:37because of my experience of what South Africa is.
0:40:37 > 0:40:39Couples like us are few and far between.
0:40:39 > 0:40:41There's some challenges that come with it in South Africa.
0:40:41 > 0:40:44There's a lot of people who look at you
0:40:44 > 0:40:46and think "Why are you with this person?"
0:40:46 > 0:40:48There are cultural challenges involved.
0:40:48 > 0:40:51I'm hopeful that things are going to change.
0:40:51 > 0:40:52You know, just look around here.
0:40:52 > 0:40:57The only way you can evolve is by having people mix,
0:40:57 > 0:40:59by having people be together.
0:40:59 > 0:41:02The worst part of apartheid was physically separating people,
0:41:02 > 0:41:04because people live in different areas.
0:41:04 > 0:41:07So we're lucky, because we live in an affluent area,
0:41:07 > 0:41:09so we are exposed to different cultures,
0:41:09 > 0:41:11and people have embraced it.
0:41:11 > 0:41:13I mean, are you aware of a place called Coronation Park?
0:41:13 > 0:41:17- Have you heard of this place?- Yeah. - They feel marginalised.
0:41:17 > 0:41:19They feel that as the working class,
0:41:19 > 0:41:23they are a direct result of AA,
0:41:23 > 0:41:24as it gets in the way of them
0:41:24 > 0:41:26finding the work that they believe they deserve.
0:41:26 > 0:41:28You know, some white people struggling right now
0:41:28 > 0:41:30is a normal part of any country.
0:41:30 > 0:41:31If you go to Europe,
0:41:31 > 0:41:36countries have as many white people as black people that are unemployed.
0:41:36 > 0:41:40Maybe not exactly, but everybody faces the same economic conditions.
0:41:40 > 0:41:43I think that's a fair state to be in as a country.
0:41:43 > 0:41:47'Meeting these two has been refreshing,
0:41:47 > 0:41:50'as their outlook for South Africa is positive.
0:41:50 > 0:41:52'Hopefully, it'll become the norm.
0:41:55 > 0:41:57'I'm on my way back to see Hardus.
0:41:57 > 0:42:01'I'm surprised to hear he's been given a last-minute job interview.
0:42:01 > 0:42:05'It could be good news, but I'm finding it hard to be positive.'
0:42:05 > 0:42:08I see these kids walking around barefoot
0:42:08 > 0:42:12and I see used needles in the gutter and drug dealers hanging out,
0:42:12 > 0:42:14seconds from his open doorway.
0:42:14 > 0:42:18It just really gets you down. It just makes you think "Jesus".
0:42:25 > 0:42:27That's interesting. There are police.
0:42:29 > 0:42:32Ah, lots of police. I'm going to find out what's going on.
0:42:41 > 0:42:43- Excuse me, officer. - It's inside that building.
0:42:43 > 0:42:45Did something happen in that building?
0:42:45 > 0:42:47I don't know if something's happened,
0:42:47 > 0:42:51- but all the people are inside there. - OK. Thank you.
0:42:51 > 0:42:54Something's going on.
0:42:59 > 0:43:01- Hey, Hardus.- What's up?
0:43:01 > 0:43:04- You all right?- Yeah. - What's happening?
0:43:04 > 0:43:07- They're busy doing a raid.- For drug dealers?- Drugs, cigarettes.
0:43:07 > 0:43:08If you've got a shop,
0:43:08 > 0:43:12if they find any cigarettes on you, they're going to confiscate it.
0:43:12 > 0:43:13What about you guys?
0:43:13 > 0:43:17Well, luckily, I'm a smoker, so I'm just going to say I smoke.
0:43:18 > 0:43:21Vivian, I noticed that your shop sign's come down.
0:43:21 > 0:43:23If they'd seen the sign, what would have happened?
0:43:23 > 0:43:25They would search the room.
0:43:25 > 0:43:27If they find anything, they would open it up,
0:43:27 > 0:43:29or they would give me a fine.
0:43:29 > 0:43:32'Vivian and Hardus have been lucky. But escaping arrest
0:43:32 > 0:43:36'isn't how I would choose to prepare for a job interview.'
0:43:36 > 0:43:40- It's going to look like the rainbow nation today.- Why?- Blue shoes...
0:43:40 > 0:43:45Crazy colours. Do you not have any blacks and whites? There we go.
0:43:45 > 0:43:46That'll work.
0:43:46 > 0:43:50No matter where you are in the world,
0:43:50 > 0:43:53there's wives still dressing their husbands.
0:43:53 > 0:43:54Bye-bye, Sienna!
0:43:54 > 0:43:59'Hardus is interviewing for a door-to-door sales job'.
0:43:59 > 0:44:01Looking sharp. Look at you!
0:44:01 > 0:44:02Let's go and do this.
0:44:02 > 0:44:06'It's a massive opportunity that doesn't come around very often.'
0:44:06 > 0:44:08I applied for this job two years ago.
0:44:08 > 0:44:12- Wow.- Two years ago, and they finally invited me.
0:44:12 > 0:44:15This is a good 30-minute drive from your place.
0:44:15 > 0:44:18- How are you going to get here, should you get the job?- Walk.
0:44:18 > 0:44:22It's going to be a long walk, isn't it?
0:44:22 > 0:44:27- I get those nerves.- You'll be fine. You'll be fine.
0:44:28 > 0:44:32So what's the situation with AA?
0:44:32 > 0:44:35I'm hoping that there's no such thing in this opportunity.
0:44:35 > 0:44:38Even if there is, I'm still hoping
0:44:38 > 0:44:41that I convince them to give me a chance.
0:44:41 > 0:44:43This is the first time I've seen him
0:44:43 > 0:44:46appear unsure about something, you know?
0:44:46 > 0:44:48In any scenario, you'd sort of understand,
0:44:48 > 0:44:52but in this one, there's so much more on your shoulders.
0:44:52 > 0:44:54It's not just someone trying to get a job
0:44:54 > 0:44:57to earn some money to pay for their satellite subscription.
0:44:57 > 0:45:01I really hope Hardus can get his dream job,
0:45:01 > 0:45:03but competition is tough.
0:45:03 > 0:45:05This is just the first of three interviews
0:45:05 > 0:45:07he will have to face to stand a chance.
0:45:09 > 0:45:11Even if he does succeed, his ultimate goal
0:45:11 > 0:45:13is not just to leave his home,
0:45:13 > 0:45:16but to take his family out of South Africa.
0:45:22 > 0:45:26Like many Afrikaners I've spoken to, he's fearful for the future.
0:45:30 > 0:45:33I've come to a rally for a popular movement called EFF
0:45:33 > 0:45:36that's taken South Africa's poor black youth by storm.
0:45:41 > 0:45:46The red berets think affirmative action hasn't gone far enough.
0:45:46 > 0:45:48They're demanding more extreme measures
0:45:48 > 0:45:50to help black people out of poverty,
0:45:50 > 0:45:56like taking back farmland and nationalising lucrative mines.
0:45:56 > 0:45:59We are going to take what belongs to us!
0:45:59 > 0:46:01They've become controversial
0:46:01 > 0:46:04for singing an apartheid rebellion song,
0:46:04 > 0:46:06Shoot The Boer - Kill The Farmer.
0:46:06 > 0:46:09Viva EFF!
0:46:09 > 0:46:11From old women to little kids,
0:46:11 > 0:46:13they're all screaming for the EFF.
0:46:15 > 0:46:17'Just because there's now a black government,
0:46:17 > 0:46:22'doesn't mean poor black Africans aren't still suffering or angry.'
0:46:22 > 0:46:24It has been 20 years of so-called independence.
0:46:24 > 0:46:27I might be free to sit next to a white person on the bus,
0:46:27 > 0:46:29but I've got no income. I got no money.
0:46:29 > 0:46:31I cannot buy anything for my children.
0:46:31 > 0:46:33They just watch life going by.
0:46:33 > 0:46:35Talking to people like Hardus,
0:46:35 > 0:46:36you get an idea that he feels like
0:46:36 > 0:46:39he's not part of what is happening in South Africa.
0:46:39 > 0:46:41It's no different to the people here.
0:46:41 > 0:46:43They feel just as marginalised,
0:46:43 > 0:46:46just as not listened to and just as ignored.
0:46:46 > 0:46:51People here want change, and there's a militancy in the air.
0:46:55 > 0:46:57Look at that, look.
0:46:57 > 0:47:00When their commander-in-chief, Julius Malema, turns up,
0:47:00 > 0:47:05he gets a welcome that David Cameron could only dream of.
0:47:30 > 0:47:34SINGING AND CHANTING
0:47:46 > 0:47:49The whole time I've been here,
0:47:49 > 0:47:52I've heard about this Kill The Boer song.
0:47:52 > 0:47:54Clearly, Malema has become hip to that,
0:47:54 > 0:47:57because it's something that's really sensitive
0:47:57 > 0:47:59to the Boer Afrikaner population out here.
0:47:59 > 0:48:02He's now changed the words of the song to Kiss The Boer.
0:48:02 > 0:48:05The funny thing is, that's quickly followed
0:48:05 > 0:48:07by people going "pow-pow".
0:48:07 > 0:48:13Different words, pretty much the same meaning.
0:48:13 > 0:48:15Shoot to kill!
0:48:17 > 0:48:19I've never seen any politician in Britain...
0:48:19 > 0:48:21when they sing, they sing traditional songs.
0:48:21 > 0:48:23He sang the Kill The Boer song,
0:48:23 > 0:48:26but he changed the words to Kiss The Boer.
0:48:26 > 0:48:29- Do you think it's a fair song? - Yeah, it's a fair song.
0:48:29 > 0:48:32We are kissing the knowledge. We do not want to fight.
0:48:32 > 0:48:35We want to fight spiritually, not physically.
0:48:35 > 0:48:37We don't want to fight with guns and whatever,
0:48:37 > 0:48:41we have to fight knowledgeably.
0:48:41 > 0:48:44And we have to fight with knowledge.
0:48:48 > 0:48:49'I don't want to believe
0:48:49 > 0:48:53'that everyone here wants to take violent revenge on white people,
0:48:53 > 0:48:57'but chanting a hate song isn't building any bridges.'
0:48:59 > 0:49:03A few years ago, Julius Malema was tipped as a future president.
0:49:04 > 0:49:08But he's not someone many people in Coronation Park would vote for.
0:49:10 > 0:49:14Why do you think that so many black people in townships
0:49:14 > 0:49:16are supporting of Malema?
0:49:16 > 0:49:20Because they want to kill us. It's a shock, eh?
0:49:20 > 0:49:23I definitely don't agree.
0:49:23 > 0:49:25It says "Kill the Boer, kill the white one,
0:49:25 > 0:49:29"kill the Boer, kill the white one." They're going to kill us.
0:49:29 > 0:49:31As soon as he comes in, we're going to be killed.
0:49:31 > 0:49:35Our fathers before our fathers treated black people very bad.
0:49:35 > 0:49:39They did. And I think Julius Malema wants to just turn it around.
0:49:39 > 0:49:40He wants to give us
0:49:40 > 0:49:44the same medicine that our fathers, before our fathers, gave them.
0:49:44 > 0:49:45That's what I think.
0:49:45 > 0:49:46But it's wrong. It's wrong.
0:49:48 > 0:49:50Why do you want to treat us like dirt
0:49:50 > 0:49:53because of what happened at that time?
0:49:53 > 0:49:56It was a long time ago, but it's not that long ago.
0:49:56 > 0:49:59The fact that people are still alive who remember apartheid is a problem.
0:49:59 > 0:50:02The fact that there are still people alive
0:50:02 > 0:50:05who are holding on to feelings from that era is a problem,
0:50:05 > 0:50:08and that is why there are some people, not all people,
0:50:08 > 0:50:10some people who feel a level of resentment,
0:50:10 > 0:50:13and why there is anger between blacks and whites.
0:50:17 > 0:50:20Blood is blood and flesh is flesh, so just leave it.
0:50:20 > 0:50:25It is history, but, but... You can't forget.
0:50:26 > 0:50:29It's irresponsible to forget.
0:50:29 > 0:50:32Come on, it's a new life. It's new.
0:50:32 > 0:50:35So go forward!
0:50:35 > 0:50:37You've got every right to be angry,
0:50:37 > 0:50:38but so do black people in the townships.
0:50:38 > 0:50:40There are lessons in what happened,
0:50:40 > 0:50:42and I think the only way you move forward
0:50:42 > 0:50:45is learning from what happened, as opposed to forgetting.
0:50:45 > 0:50:46Stupid man!
0:50:46 > 0:50:51That's why the world is like it is, because they can't forgive
0:50:51 > 0:50:54and forget what happened in their lives.
0:50:54 > 0:50:57That's why the world is a fuck-up. Straight talking.
0:50:57 > 0:51:00That's why the world is fucked up.
0:51:00 > 0:51:03But to forget what happened would be completely irresponsible,
0:51:03 > 0:51:06because then you can't learn from what went wrong.
0:51:06 > 0:51:07Hear me out...
0:51:09 > 0:51:10I've told you what I think.
0:51:10 > 0:51:14I've told you everything that I know,
0:51:14 > 0:51:17everything I want to say to you, and that's that.
0:51:17 > 0:51:20- We're not going to agree on it. - We will never agree! Never!
0:51:20 > 0:51:22Let me tell you one thing, my friend. We will never agree.
0:51:25 > 0:51:29Forgiving and forgetting is not the way I live my life.
0:51:29 > 0:51:30I've got a tattoo on my arm
0:51:30 > 0:51:33that says "Never regret, never forget", you know?
0:51:33 > 0:51:37I think it's important that you don't forget.
0:51:37 > 0:51:39It's definitely important that you forgive,
0:51:39 > 0:51:43and that's the only way things are going to change, if people forgive.
0:51:43 > 0:51:44But you must never forget,
0:51:44 > 0:51:48because if you forget, what the hell are you going to learn?
0:51:48 > 0:51:49There is no quick fix
0:51:49 > 0:51:52for the divisions and inequality in South Africa.
0:51:52 > 0:51:54The poor Afrikaners I've met
0:51:54 > 0:51:57are undoubtedly getting a rough deal now.
0:51:57 > 0:52:01But if there is a price to pay for decades of oppression,
0:52:01 > 0:52:03perhaps this is the least worst option.
0:52:06 > 0:52:09In Pretoria, Hardus has asked me to meet him
0:52:09 > 0:52:13after making it through to the final interview for his sales job.
0:52:13 > 0:52:17- So today was the big day?- I've got some bad news and some good news.
0:52:17 > 0:52:21- OK, bad news first.- I need to wake up early tomorrow morning.
0:52:21 > 0:52:27Best news, I get to start working on my birthday, which is tomorrow!
0:52:27 > 0:52:30Oh, my God. That's incredible.
0:52:30 > 0:52:32That's unbelievable! Congratulations.
0:52:32 > 0:52:38- What a birthday present.- Yeah, it is. I really didn't expect this.
0:52:38 > 0:52:41- What does this mean for you and your family?- A better life,
0:52:41 > 0:52:44which is what I've been hoping for, what I've been dreaming for.
0:52:44 > 0:52:47- Does Vivian know yet?- No.
0:53:03 > 0:53:05Congratulations. Big news.
0:53:05 > 0:53:07What's the first thing you want to do?
0:53:07 > 0:53:12Just get out of this place. Move to a flat or something.
0:53:12 > 0:53:14I can't let them grow up here in this place.
0:53:17 > 0:53:20When I got the yes after I left the office, it was...
0:53:21 > 0:53:25It just felt like I was taking a huge load of stuff off my shoulders.
0:53:25 > 0:53:27So it's a big change for me.
0:53:32 > 0:53:35I'm still going to make it, I'm still going to do it.
0:53:35 > 0:53:37It's been a pleasure meeting you.
0:53:37 > 0:53:42- Take care. Best of luck.- Thank you! - See you later, little man.- Bye-bye!
0:53:42 > 0:53:48Do I get a hug? See you later.
0:53:48 > 0:53:52- Bye!- Bye!
0:53:54 > 0:53:57Bye, monkey.
0:53:58 > 0:54:03'I'm really pleased that Hardus at least has made a positive change.
0:54:03 > 0:54:06'I'd come here hoping to see a rainbow nation,
0:54:06 > 0:54:08'but there's clearly some way to go.
0:54:08 > 0:54:12'Integration is happening, but only in pockets.
0:54:12 > 0:54:15'I'm surprised that it's the poor Afrikaners
0:54:15 > 0:54:17'who feel they don't belong in South Africa.'
0:54:17 > 0:54:21Essentially, black and white people are victims of apartheid,
0:54:21 > 0:54:24and they're still feeling the effects of it.
0:54:25 > 0:54:29It's a problem that's affected poor, rich, white and black.
0:54:30 > 0:54:34Do you think that you're a victim of apartheid still?
0:54:37 > 0:54:39Definitely, my generation are paying a price.
0:54:43 > 0:54:47Paying a price for our forefathers.
0:54:47 > 0:54:51South Africa's past is still haunting it.
0:54:55 > 0:54:58But it won't be like that always.
0:54:58 > 0:55:01Change takes time. It really does.
0:55:02 > 0:55:07- Happy?- Very happy. I look ten years younger! That's amazing. Nice work.
0:55:10 > 0:55:13- Bye-bye.- See you later, guys.- Bye.
0:55:15 > 0:55:21Always look to the trees and to the sky. Remember us then. Do.
0:55:28 > 0:55:32It's a bit weird, um, seeing them react the way they have to me.
0:55:32 > 0:55:33And it's...
0:55:35 > 0:55:38If I'm going to be really honest, I feel strange leaving.
0:55:39 > 0:55:42Not that I want to stay here, but...
0:55:44 > 0:55:47You know, I'm going home, and I know what I'm going home to.
0:55:47 > 0:55:53And they're staying here. Staying here in this.
0:55:54 > 0:55:58This is how kids play here. This is the reality for them here.
0:55:59 > 0:56:02And they are good people. Really good people.
0:56:06 > 0:56:10My time in Coronation Park and Joburg has come to an end.
0:56:10 > 0:56:14The people I've been living with are in a very difficult position,
0:56:14 > 0:56:17but they still have made me very welcome, and that's important.
0:56:17 > 0:56:20Thank you so much. Take care.
0:56:20 > 0:56:22'During the years of apartheid,
0:56:22 > 0:56:25'I wouldn't have even been allowed to set foot in this park.
0:56:25 > 0:56:27'And that is progress, at least for me.'