Sex, Death and the Gods

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0:00:00 > 0:00:03This programme contains scenes of a sexual nature

0:00:04 > 0:00:06INDIAN DRUMMING

0:00:23 > 0:00:25Servant of God.

0:00:41 > 0:00:43Right.

0:01:00 > 0:01:04In your opinion you think it has successfully stopped?

0:01:06 > 0:01:07Good.

0:01:10 > 0:01:14I heard about the Devadasi system two years ago.

0:01:14 > 0:01:18It was described as an ancient Hindu tradition in which young girls

0:01:18 > 0:01:23are married to God in childhood, and then at puberty sold for sex -

0:01:25 > 0:01:27the money they earn given to their families.

0:01:29 > 0:01:33The practice was made illegal more than 60 years ago,

0:01:33 > 0:01:35but in spite of official denials,

0:01:35 > 0:01:39there are still an estimated 30,000 Devadasis

0:01:39 > 0:01:44in the villages and towns of Karnataka, Southern India.

0:06:25 > 0:06:29They say the Devadasi are dedicated to serve the goddess,

0:06:29 > 0:06:32but what does the goddess do for the Devadasi?

0:06:48 > 0:06:55In the Devadasi system girls are dedicated whilst still children to the goddess Yellamma,

0:06:55 > 0:07:00a Hindu goddess solely worshipped by the Dalit caste,

0:07:00 > 0:07:03once known as the untouchables.

0:07:03 > 0:07:06The culmination of the ceremony

0:07:06 > 0:07:08is the tying of red and white beads around her neck.

0:07:08 > 0:07:15Now she is Devadasi, literally translated "slave of God".

0:07:16 > 0:07:22The way that I like to think of it is as a kind of marking,

0:07:22 > 0:07:25a way of setting a woman aside from

0:07:25 > 0:07:29the mainstream, conjugal-style sexuality.

0:07:29 > 0:07:33Setting her aside from the domestic world.

0:07:35 > 0:07:42In Dalit communities when girls are given to this goddess named Yellamma

0:07:42 > 0:07:46it is for the most part irreversible.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49They are not allowed to marry a man.

0:07:49 > 0:07:52They are, in a sense, bound

0:07:52 > 0:07:54to the laws

0:07:54 > 0:07:58of that kind of non-conjugal sexuality.

0:07:58 > 0:08:03Dedication was once sanctioned by the temple.

0:08:03 > 0:08:05It is now illegal.

0:08:07 > 0:08:11But for some, connection to the goddess

0:08:11 > 0:08:16gives them an auspicious status otherwise unavailable to them.

0:10:57 > 0:11:00If girls are being dedicated at this festival, where will it happen?

0:11:00 > 0:11:02Where will they do it?

0:14:13 > 0:14:17WOMAN ON LOUDSPEAKER:

0:16:40 > 0:16:43Grandma says it often, doesn't she?

0:16:52 > 0:16:54And have you been to Saundatti?

0:17:05 > 0:17:09Do you know that all the women here are Devadasi like your mother was?

0:17:13 > 0:17:17So are you worried that when you reach puberty, your life will change?

0:18:57 > 0:18:59Do you take medicine every day?

0:19:05 > 0:19:09But when you are HIV positive, don't they say to take it every day?

0:22:16 > 0:22:20In the Devadasi belt of Karnataka today,

0:22:20 > 0:22:25the women are all from the lowest caste, Dalit.

0:22:25 > 0:22:32But there is evidence of another pre-colonial tradition that was an elite of high status women.

0:22:32 > 0:22:36Women from a very, very vastly different range of caste

0:22:36 > 0:22:44and regional identities were all lumped together under this kind of umbrella term, Devadasi.

0:22:44 > 0:22:49And that included Dalit women, the kind of women that we've seen in this film.

0:22:49 > 0:22:54And also elite, at the other end of the spectrum, elite courtesans.

0:22:55 > 0:23:00This is the last known recording of a temple Devadasi.

0:23:00 > 0:23:03From childhood, she would have been taught the daily rituals

0:23:03 > 0:23:10that honoured and appeased the gods, received lessons in the arts of music and dance and, since puberty,

0:23:10 > 0:23:16she would have been taken as the lover of a priest, prince or another high caste male.

0:23:16 > 0:23:20On high holidays and at public processions,

0:23:20 > 0:23:25she and the other Devadasi associated with this temple

0:23:25 > 0:23:31would be bedecked with jewels, and go out to publicly celebrate their devotion to God.

0:23:36 > 0:23:39To have a star dancer attached to your temple,

0:23:39 > 0:23:43or a troupe come in and to advertise it, it was a huge attraction.

0:23:43 > 0:23:47And what was in it for the temple was a hell of a lot of money, because they knew that

0:23:47 > 0:23:51the more pilgrims came, the more people would give money to the temple.

0:23:52 > 0:23:55MUSIC PLAYS

0:24:22 > 0:24:28Each of those women had their Pottukattu, the ceremony of tying the Pottu,

0:24:28 > 0:24:31paid for by the state. So what did that mean?

0:24:31 > 0:24:34That meant that the state owned them, and could call upon them

0:24:34 > 0:24:37whenever it needed them to come into the court to perform.

0:24:40 > 0:24:45By the 17th and 18th century, the elite Devadasi were living

0:24:45 > 0:24:50in full view of their patron's official family, on palace or temple grounds,

0:24:50 > 0:24:56in encampments that involved hundreds, sometimes even thousands of women and their children.

0:24:59 > 0:25:04Because they had no mortal husband, they were considered head of their own household,

0:25:04 > 0:25:08a position unimaginable for a woman at that time.

0:25:10 > 0:25:16Some of them were able to amass a tremendous amount of wealth during their own lifetime.

0:25:16 > 0:25:22The wealth usually was consolidated and stored in the form of jewels,

0:25:22 > 0:25:28which had to do with the whole perpetuation of their status as courtesans, of their lifestyle.

0:25:30 > 0:25:34A Devadasi uniquely had land rights in her own name,

0:25:34 > 0:25:38and the power to distribute and bequeath her own wealth down the matriarchal line.

0:25:40 > 0:25:43Her marriage to God made her auspicious,

0:25:43 > 0:25:47and she had responsibility for prayers and blessings

0:25:47 > 0:25:52that kept away the evil eye from temple, family and court.

0:25:57 > 0:26:02The idea of the God, and the idea of the performing arts,

0:26:02 > 0:26:09and the idea of all of the other cultural accoutrements,

0:26:09 > 0:26:14if you want to call them that, I don't know what else we can call them,

0:26:14 > 0:26:19do certainly, in a sense, pivot around the economics of it all.

0:26:19 > 0:26:23The elite courtesans no longer exist,

0:26:23 > 0:26:28but in the Dalit community, there are some who take pride

0:26:28 > 0:26:31and gain status from the Devadasi tradition.

0:26:35 > 0:26:41A common prostitute for that court does not have a place in gentle society.

0:26:41 > 0:26:45The Devadasis in the village society had a place.

0:26:45 > 0:26:49If you say "Devadasi", they have more acceptance,

0:26:49 > 0:26:53because they come with a history and a culture and a religion.

0:26:57 > 0:27:00OK, now the brothels start on your right.

0:27:03 > 0:27:06And then it starts again ahead.

0:27:18 > 0:27:20I am the old-fashioned social worker.

0:27:20 > 0:27:25I actually believe that we have to strengthen communities, to fight their battles.

0:27:28 > 0:27:32I don't believe in charity at all.

0:27:32 > 0:27:35I do it because I'm politically motivated to do this.

0:28:04 > 0:28:08They absolutely use gold as a justification,

0:28:08 > 0:28:16because it is the use of the Yellamma

0:28:16 > 0:28:18that has helped them exist.

0:28:20 > 0:28:25So it is not only that they just believe in Yellamma, it is also for their economy,

0:28:25 > 0:28:27Yellamma is absolutely essential.

0:28:27 > 0:28:35And for their own social status, social standing, Yellamma is absolutely essential.

0:28:49 > 0:28:52Here is a community that has figured out

0:28:52 > 0:28:58how to economically strengthen itself using sex work.

0:29:01 > 0:29:07But since we are so against people being in sex work...

0:29:08 > 0:29:16..we are unable to see that any kind of programme that we put up

0:29:16 > 0:29:20will actually be something that we do for them.

0:29:20 > 0:29:24Not something that they do for themselves.

0:29:24 > 0:29:29The whole sex work parallel for them is something that they have figured out for themselves.

0:29:29 > 0:29:35They have figured this out, they have thought that, OK, this could be a good economic option for this family.

0:29:35 > 0:29:42But since we do not accept that economic option, we are now trying to dictate to this group

0:29:42 > 0:29:44what their economic options should be.

0:30:54 > 0:31:02The women formally believe that their role in the family is that of a male.

0:31:02 > 0:31:05And this is where I come to this understanding that this is the high.

0:31:05 > 0:31:11Where you have women managing households,

0:31:11 > 0:31:14they're female heads of their households.

0:31:14 > 0:31:20It is being a Devadasi, believing that they have certain powers,

0:31:20 > 0:31:25because they are Devadasis that has been invested in them by Yellamma, believing that they know

0:31:25 > 0:31:28how to take decisions because they have the money.

0:31:28 > 0:31:31You know, all of this is a huge high

0:31:31 > 0:31:36and cannot be easily, I think, done away with.

0:33:53 > 0:33:58The one thing that you must absolutely hear

0:33:58 > 0:34:03is that choice is a very cruel mirage

0:34:03 > 0:34:07for all women from the Third World.

0:34:07 > 0:34:13This is a mirage that we are battling with, because, somehow, the western world has given us this

0:34:13 > 0:34:20word called "choice", and we are all enamoured so much by it that we constantly are devaluing

0:34:20 > 0:34:23our lives because we do not believe we have choice.

0:36:32 > 0:36:37You say solutions from the outside don't work.

0:36:37 > 0:36:38Look at this Devadasi system.

0:36:38 > 0:36:43It is a home-made, economic thing.

0:36:43 > 0:36:49They are saying, "Look what we have, you know, to keep the family together."

0:36:49 > 0:36:53I just want to know, are you absolutely happy to put that online?

0:36:53 > 0:36:56Because it's a very extreme view.

0:36:56 > 0:37:00- I don't disagree. - No, no, the point is not agreeing or disagreeing.

0:37:00 > 0:37:05The point is that the Devadasi system is a much maligned system.

0:37:05 > 0:37:10It's a much maligned system because it's constantly being analysed from the outside.

0:37:10 > 0:37:14The lower-caste woman's voice in all of this, who is a Devadasi,

0:37:14 > 0:37:20who has benefited from this system, has not got any kind of credence or currency.

0:37:36 > 0:37:44Isn't the problem, isn't the intractable, when the Devadasi are dedicated?

0:37:44 > 0:37:49My grandmother got married when she was ten years old, my own grandmother.

0:37:49 > 0:37:54If my child thought of even having sex at ten years old, I'd be horrified.

0:37:54 > 0:37:58It's taken two generations for us to reach this place.

0:37:58 > 0:38:03So I am saying, why are we not willing to give that time and energy?

0:38:03 > 0:38:06If you go and look at the communities...

0:38:09 > 0:38:14You will not find 14 and 15 and 16-year-olds in business at all.

0:38:14 > 0:38:20Whereas, 16 years back, when I started working, every house had 12 and 13-year-olds.

0:38:20 > 0:38:24You have to think of a long-term strategy.

0:38:24 > 0:38:27It's not that my heart did not beat for the 12 and 13-year-olds.

0:38:27 > 0:38:32My point is that, if we had done a rescue thing,

0:38:32 > 0:38:35the brothel would have closed, the community would have closed,

0:38:35 > 0:38:38and we would never have had the access that we have today.

0:38:38 > 0:38:43When the community is educated to say no to this level of violence,

0:38:43 > 0:38:49which is what it is to have a girl or a small child in these places.

0:38:58 > 0:39:02Inscriptions and carvings on temple walls show evidence

0:39:02 > 0:39:06of the Devadasi system from as early as the 11th century.

0:39:06 > 0:39:13But by the 17th century, there were tens of thousands of Devadasi living and working in South India.

0:39:16 > 0:39:18The women themselves

0:39:18 > 0:39:25were seen as signs of pleasure,

0:39:25 > 0:39:32of a kind of excess, a kind of enjoyment.

0:39:32 > 0:39:38So if you had a small kingdom, a small court, one of the ways, especially in the colonial period,

0:39:38 > 0:39:44when political power was being taken away from a lot of these Indian elites,

0:39:44 > 0:39:47the ways they would display their authority and their power

0:39:47 > 0:39:53was through displays of excess, displays of grandeur, of splendour.

0:39:53 > 0:39:59And the women themselves came to be almost the quintessential sign of that.

0:39:59 > 0:40:06So much so, I would say, that elite courtesans were referred to as mbhogam,

0:40:06 > 0:40:10coming from the Sanskrit word "mbhoga," which means enjoyment.

0:40:10 > 0:40:14They were literally embodiments of enjoyment.

0:40:20 > 0:40:26According to the Kama Sutra, a courtesan should have the following characteristics -

0:40:26 > 0:40:34beauty, amiability, auspicious body marks, a firm mind, desire for wealth...

0:40:35 > 0:40:38..delight in sexual union, and she should be anxious

0:40:38 > 0:40:45to acquire experience and knowledge and enjoy social gatherings and the arts.

0:40:47 > 0:40:51A Devadasi danced with her hips to one side, thrusting to another,

0:40:51 > 0:40:56using hand movements to describe sexual encounters with the gods.

0:40:58 > 0:41:01A promissory note to her lover patron.

0:41:04 > 0:41:07It would move from a very literal interpretation of that line,

0:41:07 > 0:41:09so we make sure we all understand the line.

0:41:09 > 0:41:16He undid my bodice. She would actually reach behind her and mime out the undoing.

0:41:16 > 0:41:23Then he began to kiss me, or he began to see my breasts.

0:41:23 > 0:41:24He began to touch my breasts.

0:41:24 > 0:41:27He began to put his hand on my breast.

0:41:27 > 0:41:29He began to stroke my hair. Blah, blah, blah...

0:41:29 > 0:41:32Eventually that would lead to this whole scene,

0:41:32 > 0:41:36it would culminate after the line is repeated 15 times or 20 times,

0:41:36 > 0:41:39into this full-out love-making scene

0:41:39 > 0:41:42where she would just go into these abstract gestures

0:41:42 > 0:41:45and show us the different positions in which they made love.

0:42:02 > 0:42:08The fact of the matter is that for 99.9% of the women in these communities, having a relationship

0:42:08 > 0:42:11of concubinage was necessary for survival.

0:42:11 > 0:42:14They could not survive without that relationship.

0:42:14 > 0:42:17That's also why it was very important

0:42:17 > 0:42:20in terms of the internal social organisation,

0:42:20 > 0:42:24the kinship structures within these communities,

0:42:24 > 0:42:29that somebody be in control of matching people up.

0:42:29 > 0:42:33In that sense, many of these relationships were like arranged marriages.

0:42:33 > 0:42:39Most women were "given" to a patron by their grandma or their mother.

0:48:29 > 0:48:33So was she angry that Shobha stopped because the money stopped?

0:50:14 > 0:50:17BUGLE PLAYS

0:50:17 > 0:50:21This lady was not the only one who was not amused.

0:50:25 > 0:50:31When the British formally took over India in 1857, the Devadasi came under attack.

0:50:39 > 0:50:45The Victorian values that epitomised the Empire - monotheistic religion applied with missionary zeal,

0:50:45 > 0:50:51the criminalisation of sex outside marriage in both England and India,

0:50:51 > 0:50:58put paid to those women who had been at the centre of court, religious and political life.

0:50:58 > 0:51:02A lot of the kinds of models around womanhood that we see in that period

0:51:02 > 0:51:08were certainly models that were coming directly out of Victorian models,

0:51:08 > 0:51:15and I think that it becomes very clear that what's going on here is a kind of valorisation

0:51:15 > 0:51:19of the wife that we have not seen in Indian history up to that point

0:51:19 > 0:51:25and that role of domesticity and of the importance of the married woman

0:51:25 > 0:51:31was something that really was the cornerstone of Indian nationalism.

0:51:33 > 0:51:38Effectively, Devadasis were failed citizens of the state.

0:51:38 > 0:51:43They couldn't be citizens of the new and modern India.

0:51:43 > 0:51:47Their selfhood, which was embodied in their sexuality,

0:51:47 > 0:51:53in fact understood essentially as their sexuality, was something that could not be accommodated.

0:51:56 > 0:52:01The system of concubinage became very uncomfortable for the Indian elite at that point.

0:52:01 > 0:52:05It became quite embarrassing, actually, for elite men,

0:52:05 > 0:52:08who strangely, two or three generations ago,

0:52:08 > 0:52:13would have had those same women as their concubines, as their second wives,

0:52:13 > 0:52:18but now all of a sudden felt a tremendous amount of shame when it came to accepting the fact that

0:52:18 > 0:52:22institutionalised concubinage was part of their own heritage.

0:52:27 > 0:52:31The majority of Devadasis, it seems, were actually opposed to reform.

0:52:31 > 0:52:39By the time the British left India in 1947, they had passed comprehensive legislation

0:52:39 > 0:52:44that forbade the marriage of children to God and the giving of lend for young girls.

0:52:44 > 0:52:50The Devadasi were banned from living in temple and dancing in processions and private homes.

0:52:50 > 0:52:56These laws effectively eradicated the Devadasi elite.

0:52:58 > 0:53:03But in the villages and towns of the Devadasi belt, far from the notice

0:53:03 > 0:53:06and concern of India's ruling class,

0:53:06 > 0:53:10economic hardship in the Dalit community

0:53:10 > 0:53:13ensured that the system continued.

0:53:13 > 0:53:17Government officials deny that dedications still happen,

0:53:17 > 0:53:21but in spite of the risk of fine and imprisonment,

0:53:21 > 0:53:26for some, the traditional practice of dedicating a daughter to the goddess

0:53:26 > 0:53:30remains the answer to their economic need.

0:55:22 > 0:55:23Yeah, let's go.

0:55:26 > 0:55:29It's too much torture for the girl.

0:57:08 > 0:57:10Do you have a dream for your future?

0:58:08 > 0:58:14The irony of trying to abolish the Devadasi system is that now many girls from the same community

0:58:14 > 0:58:18are simply trafficked into city brothels.

0:58:18 > 0:58:24No longer elevated by dedication to the goddess, cut off from their villages and families,

0:58:24 > 0:58:28these girls are condemned to do the one thing

0:58:28 > 0:58:32that all the legislation was attempting to abolish - sex work.

1:00:30 > 1:00:34And if they want to be out, they don't have the right to be out?

1:00:56 > 1:01:00But if they are minor and they want to be out?

1:02:28 > 1:02:30Condom.

1:03:32 > 1:03:34One, two,

1:03:34 > 1:03:37three, four.

1:03:37 > 1:03:39Again - five, six.

1:03:39 > 1:03:43Five, six, seven - go.

1:05:08 > 1:05:09Bye.

1:05:49 > 1:05:54As part of its victory over colonialism,

1:05:54 > 1:05:57post-independence India reclaimed its heritage.

1:05:57 > 1:06:01When they cherry-picked their own history,

1:06:01 > 1:06:07they renamed and reconstituted the dance tradition of the Devadasi as Bharatnatyam,

1:06:07 > 1:06:10India's most popular national dance.

1:06:10 > 1:06:14The improvisation was completely taken out.

1:06:14 > 1:06:17Everything was choreographed, structured.

1:06:17 > 1:06:21The eroticism of the poetry, the poetry itself was deleted

1:06:21 > 1:06:24and replaced by religious poetry.

1:06:24 > 1:06:31So Devadasi histories have always in our generation, for example, always been thought of in terms of a fall.

1:06:31 > 1:06:37A kind of radical shift from a golden, pure religious age

1:06:37 > 1:06:41into a kind of decadent,

1:06:41 > 1:06:46degenerate culture of prostitution.

1:06:46 > 1:06:49And that in a sense is the reverse,

1:06:49 > 1:06:54mirror reversing of what went on with their dance forms.

1:06:56 > 1:07:02The Devadasi system elevated some and fed others.

1:07:02 > 1:07:06It created an artistic community and kept families afloat.

1:07:06 > 1:07:10And while over time the age of consent in mainstream society

1:07:10 > 1:07:16was raised, the Devadasi, pushed to the margins, got left behind.

1:07:16 > 1:07:22Successive interventions robbed them of their social mobility and their status

1:07:22 > 1:07:29without resolving their economic condition or their place in Indian society.

1:08:20 > 1:08:21Hello.

1:09:20 > 1:09:22Do you think that she is strong?

1:09:22 > 1:09:26She said, no more in my family.

1:09:26 > 1:09:27Yes.

1:09:27 > 1:09:30What do you think?

1:09:30 > 1:09:37My mother is very clever and doing the best things.

1:09:37 > 1:09:40It's all the worst problems.

1:09:42 > 1:09:44And singing also.

1:10:41 > 1:10:43Bye.

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