If a Tree Falls: A Story of the Earth Liberation Front

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0:00:02 > 0:00:10This programme contains very strong language

0:00:18 > 0:00:21NEWSREEL: 'In Vail, Colorado, the nation's busiest ski resort

0:00:21 > 0:00:22'was hit today by a fire.

0:00:22 > 0:00:24'Arson is suspected.'

0:00:26 > 0:00:28'You may have heard of the Earth Liberation Front.

0:00:28 > 0:00:32'The Attorney-General says it's a domestic terrorist organisation.

0:00:32 > 0:00:35'The FBI says it is one of the most dangerous groups in the country.'

0:00:35 > 0:00:41'The ELF has claimed responsibility for more than two dozen major acts of eco-terrorism since 1996.'

0:00:41 > 0:00:47'Firebombings include attacks on lumber mills, wild horse corrals and two meat-packing plants.'

0:00:47 > 0:00:50'So far, not one of the cases has ever been solved

0:00:50 > 0:00:52'and authorities acknowledge they know next to nothing

0:00:52 > 0:00:56'about the membership or the leadership of the organisation.'

0:01:14 > 0:01:19On December 7th, 2005, four federal agents entered my wife's office

0:01:19 > 0:01:23and arrested one of her employees, Daniel McGowan.

0:01:26 > 0:01:30He was part of a nationwide round-up that eventually netted 14 members

0:01:30 > 0:01:34of the radical environmental group the Earth Liberation Front.

0:01:35 > 0:01:38In all, their trail of destruction

0:01:38 > 0:01:40resulted in millions of dollars of property damage.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43Today's indictment is a significant step

0:01:43 > 0:01:45in bringing these terrorists to justice.

0:01:45 > 0:01:47Weeks after his arrest,

0:01:47 > 0:01:51Daniel's sister put up everything she owned for bail

0:01:51 > 0:01:56and he was placed on house arrest in her apartment, to wait for trial.

0:02:10 > 0:02:14In 2001, I was involved with the Earth Liberation Front...

0:02:16 > 0:02:20..and I was involved in two separate arsons in one year.

0:02:20 > 0:02:23I think, like, people look at my case.

0:02:23 > 0:02:26They think, "What if that motherfucker burnt down my house?"

0:02:26 > 0:02:27I think people think

0:02:27 > 0:02:31it's just a bunch of young crazies, walking around with gas cans.

0:02:31 > 0:02:35They think, "What if I burnt things that pissed me off? That's kinda crazy,"

0:02:35 > 0:02:37you know, which it is kinda crazy.

0:02:37 > 0:02:41but I think people just need to understand that this thing

0:02:41 > 0:02:43is complex and it's not that simple.

0:02:50 > 0:02:52It's hideous to be called a terrorist.

0:02:53 > 0:02:57There was no-one in any of these facilities.

0:02:57 > 0:03:00No-one got hurt, no-one was injured,

0:03:00 > 0:03:03and yet I'm facing life plus 335 years.

0:03:06 > 0:03:09I split my time between talking to my lawyers, erm...

0:03:09 > 0:03:11I do a lot of research on my case,

0:03:11 > 0:03:14you know, all my legal documents -

0:03:14 > 0:03:18DVDs and CDs and videos and photos, audio tapes.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20Hi, this is Daniel McGowan.

0:03:20 > 0:03:25I know that my lawyer sent you the brief that has been filed with the court today...

0:03:25 > 0:03:27As Daniel is preparing for trial,

0:03:27 > 0:03:31the government is putting pressure on him and his co-defendants to take a deal -

0:03:31 > 0:03:34either they plead guilty and testify against each other

0:03:34 > 0:03:36or go to trial and risk life in prison.

0:03:36 > 0:03:41I told my lawyers at our first meeting, "Don't ever bring up cooperation as a tactic.

0:03:41 > 0:03:45"We're never going to cooperate, you don't have that card, don't bring it up."

0:03:45 > 0:03:48All the people in this group have had conversations about this,

0:03:48 > 0:03:53you know, "You get arrested, you don't say a word, just get a lawyer,

0:03:53 > 0:03:56"and, like, we'll join up and we'll see what happens."

0:03:56 > 0:03:59OK, thanks, Andrea. I'll talk to you soon. Bye.

0:04:04 > 0:04:06My family's done a tremendous amount of stuff for me.

0:04:06 > 0:04:11I mean, letting me live here, but we choose to live our lives very differently,

0:04:11 > 0:04:17like, I compost, I had never used a dishwasher in my life until I moved in here.

0:04:19 > 0:04:23I try to not to impose my way of doing things on anyone here,

0:04:23 > 0:04:26but, yeah, we have different ways of doing things.

0:04:27 > 0:04:31No, I don't think I need that because we paint every edge. All right.

0:04:33 > 0:04:34All right. Bye.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39I'd be a liar if I called myself an environmentalist.

0:04:39 > 0:04:42I mean, I care about the environment, I think about the environment,

0:04:42 > 0:04:45erm...I recycle,

0:04:45 > 0:04:49but I don't recycle every single piece of paper like Danny does.

0:04:50 > 0:04:53When he came home from college, he lived with me.

0:04:53 > 0:04:54One day I came home,

0:04:54 > 0:04:57and he took the label off every single canned good I had,

0:04:57 > 0:05:00because he was, like, so obsessed with recycling.

0:05:00 > 0:05:03He was like, "If we recycle, we have to take the labels off the cans."

0:05:03 > 0:05:07I was like, "You took the labels off every can, I don't know what I have in the cans now.

0:05:07 > 0:05:09"I don't know if they're soup. or what kind of soup.

0:05:09 > 0:05:14"I don't know if they're peas or corn," and he was like, "I never thought of that."

0:05:14 > 0:05:17It was like I opened my cupboard and there was just all tin cans.

0:05:19 > 0:05:24I got a call from Jenny, er... totally hysterical, upset,

0:05:24 > 0:05:27saying that some men came in and took Daniel from his job.

0:05:27 > 0:05:31My dad's first reaction was, "Oh, I don't know my son any more,"

0:05:31 > 0:05:34and I think he was just in shock.

0:05:34 > 0:05:37It's funny - growing up, he wasn't the political kid

0:05:37 > 0:05:39that was fighting for anything.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41He was just a regular kid -

0:05:41 > 0:05:43played with his friends, rode his bike.

0:05:43 > 0:05:46It wasn't like he had this whole history...

0:05:46 > 0:05:48But you don't know what's inside someone

0:05:48 > 0:05:51until they get older and they start to think about who they are.

0:05:54 > 0:05:57I was born in 1974 in Brooklyn.

0:05:58 > 0:06:01I moved to Rockaway when I was around three,

0:06:01 > 0:06:03Rockaway Beach in Queens.

0:06:03 > 0:06:07It was, like, mostly working-class people.

0:06:11 > 0:06:15My dad was a carpenter in the New York Police Department.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22I went to high school at a place called Christ the King,

0:06:22 > 0:06:23um...Catholic high school.

0:06:24 > 0:06:29I was a track runner and, you know, I got a scholarship and stuff like that.

0:06:29 > 0:06:33And then when I got to college, I was like, "Oh, I guess I'll major in business

0:06:33 > 0:06:34"because that's practical."

0:06:34 > 0:06:41When I graduated, I got a job at a massive public relations company called Burston Marsteller.

0:06:49 > 0:06:53During this time period, I ran into a woman

0:06:53 > 0:06:56collecting signatures at Union Square.

0:06:56 > 0:07:00She kept telling me about Wetlands, the Wetlands environmental centre,

0:07:00 > 0:07:02and that was where it changed.

0:07:02 > 0:07:03ROCK MUSIC

0:07:07 > 0:07:10Basically, it was a bar that had live shows,

0:07:10 > 0:07:14but the profits would go to running an environmental centre.

0:07:14 > 0:07:18So I went to this meeting and they played these films

0:07:18 > 0:07:19that blew my mind.

0:08:13 > 0:08:18I had never seen with my own eyes what kind of world we lived in.

0:08:20 > 0:08:23I feel like I'm in perpetual mourning and have been

0:08:23 > 0:08:27since the moment that, like, I don't know, I took the blinders off

0:08:27 > 0:08:29and was like, "Holy crap! What the hell are we doing?"

0:08:34 > 0:08:37And I got involved instantly.

0:08:37 > 0:08:40I protested constantly.

0:08:42 > 0:08:45I did letter-writing every weekend at Wetlands.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48I wrote hundreds of letters to different agencies

0:08:48 > 0:08:51and, at the time, they announced

0:08:51 > 0:08:55there was going to be a national gathering in Crandon, Wisconsin,

0:08:55 > 0:08:56so I went.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59You know, I was a shy, city kid.

0:08:59 > 0:09:01I liked nature as a concept,

0:09:01 > 0:09:06but I had never slept outside before my whole life. I was 22.

0:09:11 > 0:09:15It was, like, different from anything I had ever seen.

0:09:15 > 0:09:18We went swimming in a creek, we were going out on logs and jumping off,

0:09:18 > 0:09:21we were skinny-dipping. I mean, all this stuff was new.

0:09:23 > 0:09:26Traditionally, at the end, they have a day of action.

0:09:26 > 0:09:30We went to town and had a protest at the mine office.

0:09:30 > 0:09:32I actually ended up being arrested.

0:09:34 > 0:09:39It was really eye-opening to kind of learn about this different world

0:09:39 > 0:09:42and this environmental resistance movement.

0:09:59 > 0:10:02I'm a fourth-generation Oregonian.

0:10:02 > 0:10:04Grew up in Eugene.

0:10:06 > 0:10:10My brother works the mill, my uncles own mills.

0:10:10 > 0:10:14It's something that, if you're from the Northwest, it's something you do.

0:10:20 > 0:10:24I think I met Daniel here in Eugene.

0:10:24 > 0:10:26They called him "the disgruntled one",

0:10:26 > 0:10:31just because he had this nasty attitude and he was always bitter

0:10:31 > 0:10:33and he was always pissed off

0:10:33 > 0:10:36and he always challenged people for their stupid ideas

0:10:36 > 0:10:40and so they kind of coined this nickname for him -

0:10:40 > 0:10:42"the disgruntled one".

0:10:44 > 0:10:48I think Daniel arrived out here at about '99, 1999,

0:10:48 > 0:10:51but to really understand why these arsons were set,

0:10:51 > 0:10:53I think you've got to go all the way back

0:10:53 > 0:10:56to a time when Daniel was still living back East.

0:10:56 > 0:11:01You've got to go to about 1995, which was the Warner Creek timber sale.

0:11:04 > 0:11:06The Warner Creek's about 50 miles east of Eugene.

0:11:06 > 0:11:10It's probably one of the most beautiful places I've ever been.

0:11:11 > 0:11:15And in 1995, the Forest Service decided to open it up for logging.

0:11:16 > 0:11:20People went up there and created a blockade

0:11:20 > 0:11:24on a federal logging road to try and prevent the logging of this place...

0:11:25 > 0:11:30..so we created a documentary called Pickaxe which is the story of Warner Creek.

0:11:30 > 0:11:32'There's more vehicles on the way. Over.

0:11:32 > 0:11:35'One grader followed by one...'

0:11:42 > 0:11:49We don't think you guys have the right to take a protected forest, teeming with life, and log it.

0:11:50 > 0:11:55For a long time, people were fighting the Forest Service through holding signs, letter-writing,

0:11:55 > 0:11:59sort of a hippy-type approach to protest,

0:11:59 > 0:12:03but there was this new type of protest that was becoming popular.

0:12:05 > 0:12:08People would call it sabotage or monkeywrenching.

0:12:09 > 0:12:13They would glue up locks, they would pull up survey stakes,

0:12:13 > 0:12:17they would maybe put sugar in the gas tanks of bulldozers.

0:12:17 > 0:12:18At Warner Creek,

0:12:18 > 0:12:21a simple little blockade turned into an all-out assault

0:12:21 > 0:12:24on the only way in to that forest.

0:12:26 > 0:12:28The protesters dug a series of trenches

0:12:28 > 0:12:31to keep logging trucks from getting to the forest...

0:12:33 > 0:12:35..and then they built the wall.

0:12:36 > 0:12:40It looked like an old fort from the Wild, Wild West

0:12:40 > 0:12:41and it had a drawbridge,

0:12:41 > 0:12:44and it was really a cool blockade.

0:12:45 > 0:12:47We were drawing a line in the sand -

0:12:47 > 0:12:50you can't come in here and destroy this place.

0:12:51 > 0:12:55And, er, they stayed up there for about a year.

0:13:05 > 0:13:09As a federal law enforcement officer, it is my duty to inform you that you're in violation...

0:13:09 > 0:13:14You have five minutes to get out of here. You have actually less than five minutes.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17Early one morning, the Forest Service came on

0:13:17 > 0:13:21and arrested the protesters and, er...

0:13:21 > 0:13:23knocked down the wall.

0:13:28 > 0:13:32That created a lot of bitterness toward the Forest Service...

0:13:35 > 0:13:38..and soon after, things began to escalate.

0:13:43 > 0:13:47The first time I met Jacob Ferguson was at Warner Creek.

0:13:47 > 0:13:50He was a cool dude, he didn't say much, he just did a lot of work.

0:13:52 > 0:13:57I think it's really hard to know Jacob Ferguson unless you're on the inside of Jacob's life.

0:13:57 > 0:14:00This is the house I moved into right over here

0:14:00 > 0:14:04and right at that time, Jacob Ferguson was living right over there.

0:14:04 > 0:14:10But Jacob was a pirate... He was definitely, um...an outlaw.

0:14:10 > 0:14:12ROCK MUSIC

0:14:23 > 0:14:26- Yeah! - He tried to play a bad-boy image

0:14:26 > 0:14:29and he did it well because I really think he was one.

0:14:31 > 0:14:32After Warner Creek,

0:14:32 > 0:14:37I really think he thought the Forest Service was getting away with stuff.

0:14:39 > 0:14:43I think most of America feels the US Forest Service's job is to protect the forest,

0:14:43 > 0:14:47but the Forest Service is a part of the Department of Agriculture

0:14:47 > 0:14:52and, er, the Department of Agriculture looks upon these forests as crops.

0:14:54 > 0:14:59The US Forest Service's real job is to provide trees for these timber companies

0:14:59 > 0:15:02so they can cut these trees from natural forests.

0:15:02 > 0:15:06They were cutting down these massive, old-growth trees,

0:15:06 > 0:15:10up to 750, even 1,000 years old, that were just massive.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17But I think Jake was tired of the talk.

0:15:20 > 0:15:23He was tired of just, you know, philosophising.

0:15:23 > 0:15:27"You guys," you know, "are you through talking shit or what? Let's do it."

0:15:50 > 0:15:51This investigation

0:15:51 > 0:15:54was the largest domestic terrorism case

0:15:54 > 0:15:56in the history of the United States.

0:15:56 > 0:16:00The very first ELF action that occurred in the United States

0:16:00 > 0:16:03occurred at two ranger stations in the district of Oregon.

0:16:03 > 0:16:10Mainstream, legitimate environmental activists were absolutely shocked

0:16:10 > 0:16:12and disgusted with the fire

0:16:12 > 0:16:16and they saw the burning of the Oakridge Ranger Station

0:16:16 > 0:16:18as a public relations disaster.

0:16:20 > 0:16:23In the months after the ranger station fires,

0:16:23 > 0:16:26there was a split within the environmental movement.

0:16:26 > 0:16:29In Eugene, which was quickly becoming a hotbed of activism,

0:16:29 > 0:16:33a growing community of younger environmentalists

0:16:33 > 0:16:34cheered on the arsonists,

0:16:34 > 0:16:38but most environmentalists argued that in a democracy,

0:16:38 > 0:16:42public protest was still a better way of making change.

0:16:42 > 0:16:44In the summer of '97,

0:16:44 > 0:16:47just a few months after the ranger station fires,

0:16:47 > 0:16:50an event took place in downtown Eugene

0:16:50 > 0:16:52that, for many, shook up the debate.

0:16:52 > 0:16:55There was this place downtown

0:16:55 > 0:16:58that had 40 old heritage trees, just beautiful,

0:16:58 > 0:17:01and they were going to put in a parking lot for Symantec,

0:17:01 > 0:17:03this big corporation next door

0:17:03 > 0:17:05and they were going to cut down the trees to do it.

0:17:05 > 0:17:08Activists began mobilising to save the trees,

0:17:08 > 0:17:12but as they prepared to take the issue to next city council meeting,

0:17:12 > 0:17:16the city suddenly announced that they would cut the trees

0:17:16 > 0:17:18one day before that public hearing.

0:17:20 > 0:17:23On Sunday morning, about 2:30 in the morning,

0:17:23 > 0:17:28about 11 people went up into the trees to prevent them from being cut.

0:17:28 > 0:17:31We just went and did it, hoping that we could

0:17:31 > 0:17:34stave off the cutting for one day, until that public hearing.

0:17:34 > 0:17:38Just for one day, so that the citizens could talk

0:17:38 > 0:17:41to the city council the next day about saving them.

0:17:41 > 0:17:45They came in right away, wearing riot gear and gas masks.

0:17:45 > 0:17:49So, bang, bang, bang, on the door at eight in the morning.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52Some kid says, "Get out there, they're pepper-spraying them in the trees.

0:17:52 > 0:17:54"Get your camera, you got to get there.

0:17:54 > 0:17:57"They're pepper-spraying them right now."

0:17:57 > 0:17:58Hang in there, Jim!

0:18:00 > 0:18:06They came up in a fire truck bucket, and they cut my pants leg

0:18:06 > 0:18:09up to groin, so they could spray my leg with pepper spray.

0:18:09 > 0:18:14They cut his pants, and they were pepper-spraying him in the ass,

0:18:14 > 0:18:16and pepper-spraying him in the balls,

0:18:16 > 0:18:19while they were hanging from their limbs 40 feet up.

0:18:19 > 0:18:21People were on the street, looking at this, and going,

0:18:21 > 0:18:24"What the fuck do you think you are doing?"

0:18:24 > 0:18:27So, people were radicalised, they started jumping on the fence,

0:18:27 > 0:18:29going, "Quit that shit!"

0:18:29 > 0:18:32They are tear-gassing the crowd, pepper-spraying the crowd,

0:18:32 > 0:18:35it was just a crazy, frantic scene that day.

0:18:35 > 0:18:37SHOUTING

0:18:41 > 0:18:44And, they used about 12 to 15 cans on Flynn,

0:18:44 > 0:18:51and he stayed up for, I think, about six or seven hours, man.

0:18:59 > 0:19:03And then they flushed me with a bunch of water,

0:19:03 > 0:19:06took me to the hospital, took me to jail.

0:19:06 > 0:19:09So, for the next 35 hours I was soaking in pepper spray.

0:19:09 > 0:19:11My hands were orange for a week.

0:19:11 > 0:19:15And, so, the argument that you need to work within the system

0:19:15 > 0:19:18was pretty well dashed by what the cops did on that day in Eugene.

0:19:22 > 0:19:24And June 1st was really the day

0:19:24 > 0:19:28that pissed off a lot of people in this town.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40I remember reading about it. It was, like,

0:19:40 > 0:19:43this footage that was really intense.

0:19:43 > 0:19:45That kind of stuff, that's part of the story.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48That was part of the backdrop.

0:19:50 > 0:19:51It's crazy, it's crazy.

0:19:51 > 0:19:54I think a lot of moments like that really erode people's belief

0:19:54 > 0:19:57that anything can actually change.

0:19:58 > 0:20:01Next week, it's four months that I'm under house arrest.

0:20:03 > 0:20:06My days here are really tedious.

0:20:06 > 0:20:08It's really hard to focus and do anything.

0:20:11 > 0:20:15Just thinking about my future, and how uncertain it is.

0:20:15 > 0:20:17I get really sad at night, you know.

0:20:17 > 0:20:22I prefer to sleep straight through, but I have the moments every night.

0:20:23 > 0:20:26I have been doing OK, all things considered.

0:20:26 > 0:20:29I feel like, on one level, I just have to be really thankful

0:20:29 > 0:20:33for what I have, which is, like, a good family, really good friends.

0:20:33 > 0:20:37So, I try to keep things in perspective.

0:20:41 > 0:20:44- Hold on one second.- Hi. - Hi, how are you?

0:20:44 > 0:20:47Daniel was living with his girlfriend when he was arrested,

0:20:47 > 0:20:51and she's moved into his sister's apartment to be with him.

0:20:51 > 0:20:54You know, people are all different, and some other people,

0:20:54 > 0:20:57if they were in my position, they might have been totally,

0:20:57 > 0:21:02like, questioning everything. But, it's just not me.

0:21:03 > 0:21:07I think that he feels the dread every single day.

0:21:08 > 0:21:14Definitely removes some of the life from his personality.

0:21:18 > 0:21:20PHONE RINGS

0:21:20 > 0:21:26Hello. Hey, what's up? How are you?

0:21:26 > 0:21:28Wait, wait, wait.

0:21:30 > 0:21:34So, wait, wait. I'm sorry. He's cooperating to the full extent?

0:21:41 > 0:21:44Six of Daniel's co-defendants have appeared in court

0:21:44 > 0:21:45to accept plea deals.

0:21:45 > 0:21:49In exchange for reduced sentences, they've agreed to testify

0:21:49 > 0:21:52in the government's case against the remaining defendants.

0:21:53 > 0:21:55'It hurts that people

0:21:55 > 0:21:59'that I trusted and cared about turned their back on me.'

0:21:59 > 0:22:03To be a cooperating witness, it's something that other people can do,

0:22:03 > 0:22:06I'm just not going to do it, I just have to live with myself,

0:22:06 > 0:22:09I'm not going to be that person and start spewing out crap

0:22:09 > 0:22:12just so I can get myself out of a situation that's not very pleasant.

0:22:20 > 0:22:24I'd want him to do whatever he needs to do to not go to prison,

0:22:24 > 0:22:32but I would never want him to compromise his values or beliefs.

0:22:32 > 0:22:35So, if he has to choose, he'll be facing life in prison.

0:22:40 > 0:22:42I made the choice to be with him.

0:22:42 > 0:22:45And after he was arrested, I made the choice to stay with him.

0:22:45 > 0:22:47I mean, that's what you do

0:22:47 > 0:22:50when you're in a relationship with someone.

0:22:50 > 0:22:53Just because something really difficult comes up

0:22:53 > 0:22:56doesn't mean that you just run away.

0:22:56 > 0:22:59So, I think we should get married!

0:23:17 > 0:23:22This kid faces 335 years plus life in prison, and he's getting married!

0:23:25 > 0:23:27I want to kind of grab the positive

0:23:27 > 0:23:31and think that this is going to work out in the end.

0:23:31 > 0:23:33Everything is going to be OK,

0:23:33 > 0:23:37and there is nothing to stress about, but there is.

0:23:44 > 0:23:48- Hello, if it isn't my sister. How are you?- How you?

0:23:48 > 0:23:53- Oh, I'm freaking hot. That's why I'm out here.- Let me see your ring.

0:23:53 > 0:23:58- That's nice. - By nicer, she means "more money"!

0:23:59 > 0:24:02It's made of some recycled-type metal

0:24:02 > 0:24:04that doesn't hurt anything or anybody.

0:24:04 > 0:24:06Mine's made of good old diamonds!

0:24:08 > 0:24:09We'll have a good time.

0:24:16 > 0:24:20It easy to discount the environmental movement as a bunch of wackos,

0:24:20 > 0:24:25and hippies and arsonists, but it's not like that.

0:24:26 > 0:24:31There are businessmen and the moms and dads and scientists,

0:24:31 > 0:24:32and loggers themselves,

0:24:32 > 0:24:37there are people from every walk of life that get involved in this.

0:24:39 > 0:24:45I've spent several years of my life doing logging in the woods.

0:24:45 > 0:24:48I come with a little different perspective

0:24:48 > 0:24:54than a lot of the environmental crowd, or the logging crowd.

0:24:54 > 0:24:55I've got a bit of both in me.

0:24:55 > 0:24:59I'm OK with cutting down trees, I just don't have an issue with it,

0:24:59 > 0:25:01but I'm not OK with cutting them all down.

0:25:03 > 0:25:07The industry tends to call the environmentalists "radical".

0:25:07 > 0:25:12The reality is that 95% of the standing native forests

0:25:12 > 0:25:15in the United States have been cut down.

0:25:15 > 0:25:19It's not radical to try and save the last 5%.

0:25:19 > 0:25:23What's radical is logging 95%. This is radical.

0:25:26 > 0:25:29This is a piece of a big old tree.

0:25:29 > 0:25:32This tree probably sprouted

0:25:32 > 0:25:36just about the time Columbus sailed the ocean blue.

0:25:36 > 0:25:38It looks about 500 years old,

0:25:38 > 0:25:40somewhere in there.

0:25:40 > 0:25:43You know, if they could talk, they would probably say

0:25:43 > 0:25:46it's been pretty boring up until 75 years ago,

0:25:46 > 0:25:48when all hell broke loose out here on the ridge

0:25:48 > 0:25:50and they started cutting them down.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53Most of them are gone now, so we won't be seeing any of these

0:25:53 > 0:25:56for at least another 500 years, and that's if we leave them alone.

0:25:58 > 0:26:00These are amazing old trees.

0:26:05 > 0:26:07I moved out West in October of '98.

0:26:14 > 0:26:16I got out to northern California.

0:26:16 > 0:26:20I had never seen trees like that before.

0:26:20 > 0:26:23It had a really profound impact on me.

0:26:23 > 0:26:26I was already quite radicalised,

0:26:26 > 0:26:30but I couldn't believe the fact that people accepted what was going on.

0:26:33 > 0:26:37I have memories of, like, for the first time, seeing log trucks,

0:26:37 > 0:26:40and you know, being, like, "Whoa."

0:26:40 > 0:26:45You saw the mills, or you go into the forest

0:26:45 > 0:26:46and stumble upon a clear-cut.

0:26:46 > 0:26:49Like, it just blew me away.

0:26:49 > 0:26:52Just the arrogance of it.

0:26:52 > 0:26:56You think, "Man, this is butchered."

0:26:56 > 0:27:00You know, it made me think, like, "Why are we being so gentle?

0:27:00 > 0:27:02"Why are we so gentle in our activism

0:27:02 > 0:27:04"when this is what's happening?"

0:27:08 > 0:27:10After the ranger station fires,

0:27:10 > 0:27:13Jake Ferguson and members of the fledgling ELF

0:27:13 > 0:27:16set their sights on new targets.

0:27:16 > 0:27:19They came across an Associated Press article

0:27:19 > 0:27:22about the rounding-up of wild horses from government land.

0:27:22 > 0:27:25The horses were being sent to slaughterhouses,

0:27:25 > 0:27:30including the Cavel West plant in nearby Redmond, Oregon.

0:27:30 > 0:27:33There were so many horses being processed at the plant

0:27:33 > 0:27:36that horse blood would sometimes overwhelm

0:27:36 > 0:27:39the town's water treatment facility and shut it down.

0:27:39 > 0:27:40And for ten years,

0:27:40 > 0:27:46people from the area had tried and failed to stop the plant.

0:27:46 > 0:27:50On July 21st, 1997, Jake Ferguson and three others

0:27:50 > 0:27:54slipped into the facility in the middle of the night

0:27:54 > 0:27:56and burned it to the ground.

0:27:56 > 0:27:59The company was never able to rebuild,

0:27:59 > 0:28:02and the arson became a model for the group.

0:28:02 > 0:28:06In one night, they'd accomplished what years of letter-writing

0:28:06 > 0:28:08and picketing had never been able to do.

0:28:11 > 0:28:14They expanded and took on new targets.

0:28:14 > 0:28:17They burned timber company headquarters,

0:28:17 > 0:28:22a Bureau Of Land Management office and a 12 million ski lodge

0:28:22 > 0:28:24at Vail, Colorado,

0:28:24 > 0:28:27to protest at the resort's expansion into National Forest.

0:28:27 > 0:28:31An ELF press office was opened by activist who did not know

0:28:31 > 0:28:33the identities of the ELF members.

0:28:33 > 0:28:36- How did they contact you? - Anonymously.

0:28:36 > 0:28:39What is that, like a package-drop on your doorstep?

0:28:39 > 0:28:43They publicised the fires and explained the group's actions.

0:28:43 > 0:28:46When a building burns down, they HAVE to do a new story about it.

0:28:46 > 0:28:49That's why the Earth Liberation Front burned down the building

0:28:49 > 0:28:51in the first place, to get exposure.

0:28:51 > 0:28:54We were there to help explain why that building burned down,

0:28:54 > 0:28:58what it was doing in the first place that was angering people so much.

0:28:58 > 0:29:00A lot of what the Earth Liberation Front did

0:29:00 > 0:29:03was considered economic sabotage.

0:29:03 > 0:29:06These corporations exist to make money.

0:29:06 > 0:29:08All of a sudden, they are losing money,

0:29:08 > 0:29:11so they have to reassess their activities.

0:29:11 > 0:29:13Another thing that happens is that the building

0:29:13 > 0:29:16that was dumping toxic waste, for example,

0:29:16 > 0:29:19into the river one day, is unable to dump that waste tomorrow.

0:29:19 > 0:29:23The press office encouraged people to start their own ELF cells,

0:29:23 > 0:29:26but mandated that their fires not harm any life.

0:29:26 > 0:29:28Take initiative, form your own cell,

0:29:28 > 0:29:32and do what needs to be done to protect all life on this planet.

0:29:32 > 0:29:34The idea spread,

0:29:34 > 0:29:37and new anonymous cells popped up in other parts of the country.

0:29:37 > 0:29:41NEWSREEL: 'The Earth Liberation Front is turning up the heat again,

0:29:41 > 0:29:44'igniting devastating blazes all across the country.'

0:29:44 > 0:29:46'A biology lab at the University of Minnesota.'

0:29:46 > 0:29:48'Bloomington, Indiana.'

0:29:48 > 0:29:50'New York's Long Island.'

0:29:50 > 0:29:52'Now, some say ELF is in New England.'

0:29:54 > 0:29:55HORNS HONK, WHOOPING

0:29:57 > 0:30:01Back in Eugene, people were celebrating.

0:30:01 > 0:30:04We had no idea that it was people from our neighbourhood,

0:30:04 > 0:30:06and they were friends of ours,

0:30:06 > 0:30:11but we were hearing about what was happening, and we were celebrating.

0:30:13 > 0:30:18I don't think it was just the ELF that started ratcheting things up.

0:30:18 > 0:30:21I think activists all over the Northwest

0:30:21 > 0:30:23were also kicking it up a notch.

0:30:23 > 0:30:28They thought there was a possibility of really making things change.

0:30:28 > 0:30:32You just had to work at it a little harder and be a little more radical.

0:30:41 > 0:30:45I'm not turning it off, you know someone's locked under.

0:30:45 > 0:30:47There's an old woman! She's 80 years old.

0:31:03 > 0:31:06There was a sort of progression of radicalism

0:31:06 > 0:31:07that happened in Eugene,

0:31:07 > 0:31:12and so the police were also amping up their presence,

0:31:12 > 0:31:15because we were amping up our presence.

0:31:17 > 0:31:22Literally, we were having two protests a week. Major protests.

0:31:22 > 0:31:26So, you can imagine what law enforcement went like.

0:31:26 > 0:31:30I was doing undercover work around the Eugene area.

0:31:30 > 0:31:33We were looking for some of these individuals

0:31:33 > 0:31:35that were causing mayhem around Eugene.

0:31:37 > 0:31:40I think it was well-known amongst those in the movement

0:31:40 > 0:31:44that they could probe and push and get us to react,

0:31:44 > 0:31:48in a way that oftentimes didn't look very good.

0:31:48 > 0:31:50Back! Get back!

0:31:50 > 0:31:53HORNS HONK

0:31:53 > 0:31:54Hey!

0:31:57 > 0:32:00SCREAMING AND SHOUTING

0:32:02 > 0:32:06But we were getting rocks and bottles, that kind of thing,

0:32:06 > 0:32:10fire thrown at us, it just hadn't happened before.

0:32:12 > 0:32:14To say that emotions don't play into that

0:32:14 > 0:32:18would be folly - that's not true.

0:32:18 > 0:32:21It is personal, to take a rock.

0:32:28 > 0:32:32And people's views got hardened and more radicalised

0:32:32 > 0:32:35the more the police were doing to them

0:32:35 > 0:32:38or other campaigns that were going on around the Northwest.

0:32:38 > 0:32:41Are you going to release?

0:32:42 > 0:32:44Why are you doing this to us?

0:32:45 > 0:32:46Are you going to release?

0:32:46 > 0:32:48Who's going to release?

0:32:52 > 0:32:55I only did one eye, I am going to do the other eye if you don't release!

0:32:55 > 0:32:57Please don't hurt me!

0:33:04 > 0:33:07Leave her alone! Stop it! Stop it! No!

0:33:07 > 0:33:12When those people were getting attacked and pepper-sprayed in their face while they were locked down,

0:33:12 > 0:33:14I thought, "Protests and civil disobedience -

0:33:14 > 0:33:17"why bother? It's not getting us anywhere,

0:33:17 > 0:33:22"we're getting victimised by their police, you know..."

0:33:22 > 0:33:26I don't know, I think I, like a lot of people I knew at the time,

0:33:26 > 0:33:30experienced a massive loss of faith in that systemic change could happen

0:33:30 > 0:33:35through the system regulating itself or reforming itself.

0:33:36 > 0:33:40Good evening. When the World Trade Summit was planned for Seattle,

0:33:40 > 0:33:44the administration obviously hoped it would be a triumph for Bill Clinton

0:33:44 > 0:33:46in the closing months of his presidency.

0:33:46 > 0:33:50Instead, it's been a nightmare of protest and demonstrations in the street.

0:33:50 > 0:33:55In 1999, tens of thousands of people converged on Seattle

0:33:55 > 0:34:00to protest the WTO and its effect on the environment and labour.

0:34:00 > 0:34:05They blockaded the streets, using non-violent civil disobedience.

0:34:05 > 0:34:08ALL: Peaceful protest! Peaceful protest!

0:34:09 > 0:34:13The police responded with force to clear the streets.

0:34:25 > 0:34:28But while the authorities were focused on the demonstrators,

0:34:28 > 0:34:30another group appeared

0:34:30 > 0:34:33that included current and future members of the ELF.

0:34:33 > 0:34:37I'd met these people in Seattle, and I was introduced to a larger group of individuals.

0:34:37 > 0:34:41Here we are, in our black clothes,

0:34:41 > 0:34:45downtown Seattle was full of corporations that are wreaking devastation and destruction

0:34:45 > 0:34:48on the planet and people were like, "OK, let's do it".

0:34:51 > 0:34:54These businesses, they're not going to bow to people

0:34:54 > 0:34:59dancing in the streets, or dressed as giant sea turtles and so on,

0:34:59 > 0:35:03they care about one thing, capital. Unless you put a dent in their pocket...

0:35:03 > 0:35:05How are you going to do that, put a dent in their pocket?

0:35:05 > 0:35:07Hopefully by causing property damage.

0:35:15 > 0:35:19I never breathed tear gas, pepper spray or felt concussion grenades until that point.

0:35:19 > 0:35:21It was insane, I really felt,

0:35:21 > 0:35:24"This is like a war zone. Holy crap!"

0:35:39 > 0:35:42It felt good to take out my rage on those corporate windows,

0:35:42 > 0:35:46because they had caused so much destruction in my mind.

0:35:46 > 0:35:50It created a huge conversation and dialogue and fight.

0:35:50 > 0:35:54This is not what the protest was about!

0:35:54 > 0:35:56People work hard for their property!

0:35:56 > 0:36:00Vandalism is vandalism, destruction is destruction,

0:36:00 > 0:36:03whether it's of lives or property, it's not acceptable.

0:36:03 > 0:36:08- What do you think of the Boston Tea Party?- I thought it was wonderful.- Thank you.

0:36:08 > 0:36:12Thank you. 50 cents! Read all about it!

0:36:12 > 0:36:16I think people have a very Pollyanna viewpoint of social change.

0:36:17 > 0:36:20No real social change has happened without pressure, without force,

0:36:20 > 0:36:26without, some would say intimidating governments and corporations into changing their behaviour.

0:36:32 > 0:36:35Uh, so we talk about this stuff. Um...

0:36:35 > 0:36:40I took part in the Black Bloc at WTO,

0:36:40 > 0:36:44and the goal of the Black Bloc was to send an anti-capitalist message

0:36:44 > 0:36:47that consumer America is destroying the world and the planet.

0:36:50 > 0:36:52That was the first time we met people

0:36:52 > 0:36:54that ended up being involved in the arsons.

0:37:00 > 0:37:02After the WTO, I decided to move to Eugene,

0:37:02 > 0:37:05to keep in touch with some of these people I met in Seattle.

0:37:05 > 0:37:09And I started becoming a really different person.

0:37:09 > 0:37:14Daniel was very involved in the issues and ideas surrounding Eugene,

0:37:14 > 0:37:17he was very social, he seemed to know everybody

0:37:17 > 0:37:20and everybody seemed to know him, including the cops.

0:37:20 > 0:37:26Daniel was kind of known as a leader around the area,

0:37:26 > 0:37:31you know, he would show up at protests, or gatherings,

0:37:31 > 0:37:34and you could always see that he was somebody people looked up to.

0:37:34 > 0:37:38You know, you see who's serious and who's not. How they act and what they're saying.

0:37:38 > 0:37:43Somewhere along the line it became obvious that I was interested in doing other stuff.

0:37:43 > 0:37:45I met Jake in the neighbourhood,

0:37:45 > 0:37:50there was some allure about him just being quiet and to himself

0:37:50 > 0:37:54and being there really set some things in motion.

0:38:06 > 0:38:08The more radical environmental community have,

0:38:08 > 0:38:13in my opinion, a misconception about this industry and what we do.

0:38:18 > 0:38:23It's more than just a job. I'm a third-generation lumber man.

0:38:23 > 0:38:27My son works in the industry. I want him to carry on

0:38:27 > 0:38:30and when he has kids, I want them to carry on.

0:38:32 > 0:38:36You can't be in the lumber industry without having trees to cut.

0:38:36 > 0:38:37So it's ridiculous for people

0:38:37 > 0:38:41to think we're going to go out there and cut the last tree.

0:38:41 > 0:38:43Does it have an impact? Certainly.

0:38:43 > 0:38:46Nobody likes the looks of a fresh harvest.

0:38:46 > 0:38:48But we really do re-grow these trees.

0:38:48 > 0:38:52We plant six trees for every tree we harvest. That's the law.

0:38:52 > 0:38:54It's just flat-out the law. People don't break law.

0:38:54 > 0:38:57You can't get away with it in Oregon or any place else.

0:38:57 > 0:39:00Being an environmentalist is simply respecting the land

0:39:00 > 0:39:02and the atmosphere around you.

0:39:02 > 0:39:04In that regard, I'm an environmentalist.

0:39:07 > 0:39:12Eugene has a commercial railroad that goes through town.

0:39:12 > 0:39:16It's not uncommon to just see plywood after plywood,

0:39:16 > 0:39:21and company names stamped onto it.

0:39:21 > 0:39:23That's definitely how I heard about Superior Lumber,

0:39:23 > 0:39:27just by seeing their half-mile-long train full of forest go by.

0:39:33 > 0:39:36They're logging just massive trees

0:39:36 > 0:39:39and areas that have previously been pretty inaccessible.

0:39:40 > 0:39:44Sometimes when you see things you love being destroyed,

0:39:44 > 0:39:46you just want to destroy those things.

0:39:47 > 0:39:50So I felt like the action was justified.

0:39:56 > 0:40:00We were quite surprised that we had been targeted.

0:40:00 > 0:40:03I believe I was invited to participate in Superior Lumber

0:40:03 > 0:40:07by Meyerhoff to be a lookout along with Suzanne.

0:40:07 > 0:40:11But I met Jacob and Kevin right before the action - Kevin Tubbs.

0:40:11 > 0:40:15They got together some weeks before, did a surveillance of it.

0:40:16 > 0:40:21It was in an isolated area. There was no viable security there.

0:40:23 > 0:40:27They figured out where they should place the devices.

0:40:27 > 0:40:29They came back and prepared the devices.

0:40:34 > 0:40:36They put them in plastic Tupperware containers,

0:40:36 > 0:40:41made sure the containers were fingerprint-free, DNA-clean.

0:40:41 > 0:40:42They always wore gloves.

0:40:42 > 0:40:44I felt nervous from the get-go.

0:40:44 > 0:40:47I was staying in this house where everything was stored.

0:40:47 > 0:40:50Someone else's house that didn't know about the action.

0:40:50 > 0:40:55On the night of the arson they drove to the staging area.

0:40:55 > 0:41:01They put on their masks, did radio checks. They had a police scanner.

0:41:01 > 0:41:02It's positively nerve-wracking.

0:41:02 > 0:41:05I used to get real sick before actions and throw up.

0:41:05 > 0:41:09and just get like nervous, just "in the zone", you know.

0:41:09 > 0:41:12I mean, when you're doing something tat intense, even as a lookout,

0:41:12 > 0:41:14you're just, like, freaked out

0:41:14 > 0:41:17because you just don't know how anything's going to go.

0:41:17 > 0:41:21I was in the back of the van, I was actually by myself.

0:41:21 > 0:41:24I was just kind of thinking to myself, and I think, um,

0:41:24 > 0:41:26Kevin and Jake were in the front,

0:41:26 > 0:41:29just listening to music. So it was fairly relaxed.

0:41:29 > 0:41:32People weren't talking a lot. But your adrenaline's going.

0:41:32 > 0:41:35Miss Savoie and Mr McGowan were the lookouts.

0:41:35 > 0:41:40They staged north and south of the building.

0:41:40 > 0:41:44I was stationed at a payphone.

0:41:44 > 0:41:46Everybody else was dressed in all black

0:41:46 > 0:41:49because everybody wanted to blend into the night.

0:41:49 > 0:41:53However, I dressed in somewhat darker clothing but I looked fairly normal.

0:41:53 > 0:41:57I just had a scarf I could wrap round my face in case somebody passed.

0:41:57 > 0:41:59And I got dropped off at the side the road.

0:41:59 > 0:42:03I just kind of crawled into this space, this shoulder,

0:42:03 > 0:42:05you know, with a bunch of ivy.

0:42:05 > 0:42:10Mr Meyerhoff and Mr Ferguson placed the five-gallon fuel containers

0:42:10 > 0:42:13and activated the timing devices.

0:42:13 > 0:42:16It was done within, you know, 15 minutes

0:42:16 > 0:42:18and I got picked up and away we went.

0:42:18 > 0:42:20It was somewhere between 2-3am

0:42:20 > 0:42:23when I was home, sound asleep, and I got a phone call.

0:42:23 > 0:42:27Of course, any time you get a phone call at 2am in the morning,

0:42:27 > 0:42:29it's not good news.

0:42:42 > 0:42:46It turned the office into this... fiery oven.

0:42:46 > 0:42:48I mean, I don't know how hot it got in here,

0:42:48 > 0:42:50but we had keyboards that were -

0:42:50 > 0:42:52I mean, you couldn't tell one key from the other.

0:42:52 > 0:42:55They were just melted together.

0:42:59 > 0:43:04I went up to Portland and wrote the communique and sent it in.

0:43:04 > 0:43:07Even then it wasn't real. It was still like this cartoonish thing.

0:43:07 > 0:43:11And it wasn't real until I really saw the newspapers,

0:43:11 > 0:43:13seeing the man from the company, I think, Steve Swanson,

0:43:13 > 0:43:18walking through this charred remains and I was just like, "Holy crap."

0:43:18 > 0:43:24That was a major blow to our mental psyche, at least in the short run.

0:43:24 > 0:43:28It just felt like a big hole in my heart.

0:43:28 > 0:43:31In Eugene, people were jazzed.

0:43:31 > 0:43:34When the big, bad bully gets hit in the stomach and...

0:43:34 > 0:43:38feels a little something, maybe a little fear or whatever,

0:43:38 > 0:43:39that felt good.

0:43:39 > 0:43:44It was exciting. The next day I felt, you know, like,

0:43:44 > 0:43:47"Wow, I've actually done something where...it stopped."

0:43:47 > 0:43:49I didn't have a problem with it.

0:43:49 > 0:43:53I thought it was effective. It was 1 million or something like that.

0:43:53 > 0:43:55You know...

0:43:55 > 0:43:58it's like when you're involved with it and in the thick of it,

0:43:58 > 0:44:00it's hard to look at the consequences,

0:44:00 > 0:44:02the real repercussions of that.

0:44:02 > 0:44:06Like, you know, did this action push them in a better direction?

0:44:06 > 0:44:11Did it scare them? Did it help the movement in any capacity?

0:44:11 > 0:44:15There's lots of questions but I don't think at the time

0:44:15 > 0:44:17I was asking those questions too much.

0:44:23 > 0:44:28Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. All right. Well, um, that's great.

0:44:28 > 0:44:32I guess I'll see you in a little bit. OK, bye.

0:44:32 > 0:44:35Yes!

0:44:35 > 0:44:38Awesome! All right, that's great, I'm off the system.

0:44:38 > 0:44:42I am off house arrest, technically, right now.

0:44:42 > 0:44:46Hey...I'm off!

0:44:46 > 0:44:49Sweet! Seven months and two days.

0:44:49 > 0:44:55With seven months of good behaviour, Daniel's lawyers have convinced the government he's not a flight risk.

0:44:55 > 0:44:59What do you think about that? I think I want to stay in tonight.

0:44:59 > 0:45:02No, I'm joking! Are you kidding me?

0:45:02 > 0:45:04I don't care how tired I am, we're doing something.

0:45:17 > 0:45:20Of course I'm going to get off house arrest on this day,

0:45:20 > 0:45:25like, of all days, like it'll be today, you know.

0:45:25 > 0:45:28It's really sad for me to have all these feelings

0:45:28 > 0:45:33about my home being attacked, like my city being attacked.

0:45:33 > 0:45:36I mean, when I tell people I'm accused of being a terrorist,

0:45:36 > 0:45:39like, whether it is eco or domestic in front of it,

0:45:39 > 0:45:40or if it's just straight terrorist,

0:45:40 > 0:45:43it's ludicrous to me. It's like surreal.

0:45:43 > 0:45:45And most people that know me are like, "What?"

0:45:45 > 0:45:49No-one's accused in my case of flying planes, bombing things,

0:45:49 > 0:45:52trying to hurt people, none of that. No-one's accused of that.

0:45:52 > 0:45:56It's property destruction, that's what it is. Call it what it is.

0:45:56 > 0:45:59- Hey!- I looked naked, right?

0:45:59 > 0:46:02- You did it!- How are you doing?

0:46:02 > 0:46:05Look at my freak-ass ankles! I actually ran a little bit

0:46:05 > 0:46:07cos I wanted to feel like what it was like to run.

0:46:07 > 0:46:10I'm so tired! My feet hurt, my legs hurt.

0:46:10 > 0:46:12I just had a knee pain. It was horrible.

0:46:21 > 0:46:22As time went on,

0:46:22 > 0:46:26the cell members became better and better and better

0:46:26 > 0:46:30at their craft. And their craft was destruction.

0:46:32 > 0:46:37And so they started what was called the Book Club.

0:46:37 > 0:46:43They would train one another on how to build incendiary devices.

0:46:48 > 0:46:50And they would go out and test all these things.

0:46:50 > 0:46:54So they knew how long it would take at this time of night,

0:46:54 > 0:46:59in this kind of weather, how long will it take for this to ignite?

0:46:59 > 0:47:03What type of fuel would work the best?

0:47:03 > 0:47:06They wouldn't buy all the ingredients from the same store.

0:47:06 > 0:47:09Even if the same store had the two or three items that they'd need,

0:47:09 > 0:47:14they would go to a completely different store 30, 40 miles away,

0:47:14 > 0:47:17so it wouldn't ever be tracked.

0:47:17 > 0:47:22It was called the Book Club because they also utilised certain codes.

0:47:22 > 0:47:25At the meeting they were told, "This is the book we're using."

0:47:25 > 0:47:29And then you'd have to use your book that would associate

0:47:29 > 0:47:33what page number, what line number, what word number,

0:47:33 > 0:47:36and that's how you would decode the message to tell you where to go.

0:47:36 > 0:47:41Some of the members then were well versed in computer sciences.

0:47:41 > 0:47:45They brought in PGP encryption and showed other members how to do that.

0:47:45 > 0:47:49There was a lot of having good covers for why you're leaving town,

0:47:49 > 0:47:51why you're not... You know, where you're going,

0:47:51 > 0:47:54having stories that made sense, that were consistent,

0:47:54 > 0:47:58that you told everyone, your job, your family, everything.

0:47:58 > 0:48:01Not dressing like activists, per se.

0:48:01 > 0:48:04We didn't really look like what you think we would look like.

0:48:04 > 0:48:08If you saw people walking in the street you'd never think, "That's the ELF".

0:48:08 > 0:48:10It made sense of why there wasn't any evidence,

0:48:10 > 0:48:13why they weren't caught sooner.

0:48:13 > 0:48:16They were really good at what they did.

0:48:19 > 0:48:25In May, 2001, ELF members launched an attack against two sites at once,

0:48:25 > 0:48:27a first for the organisation.

0:48:27 > 0:48:31The first target was an office at the University of Washington,

0:48:31 > 0:48:34where a scientist was doing genetic research on trees,

0:48:34 > 0:48:36with a grant from the timber industry.

0:48:36 > 0:48:40The second target was the Jefferson Poplar tree farm,

0:48:40 > 0:48:42where the group believed genetically-engineered trees

0:48:42 > 0:48:45were being developed for paper production.

0:48:45 > 0:48:49In the previous arson, Daniel had been a lookout

0:48:49 > 0:48:52but this time he took a much more active role.

0:48:52 > 0:48:56They're in a motel room, they set up a tent inside the motel room,

0:48:56 > 0:49:01they put on painter suits, triple-thick gloves, they made the devices.

0:49:01 > 0:49:04One team went to the University of Washington,

0:49:04 > 0:49:07and the other travelled to Clatskanie, Oregon

0:49:07 > 0:49:09to Jefferson Poplar Farms.

0:49:09 > 0:49:11Clatskanie is a really small town.

0:49:11 > 0:49:14We were just really trying to avoid a traffic stop

0:49:14 > 0:49:17because we were pretty much screwed if we got stopped.

0:49:17 > 0:49:20Way too many people in the car dressed in all black.

0:49:20 > 0:49:23The driver of the vehicle was Miss Savoie.

0:49:23 > 0:49:26Miss Overaker served as a lookout.

0:49:26 > 0:49:31Then the three men, Mr Meyerhoff, Mr McGowan and Mr Block,

0:49:31 > 0:49:35took the fuel loads and the timers to the targets.

0:49:35 > 0:49:39We check that no-one's there, climb around, look around. no-one's in there.

0:49:39 > 0:49:43We'd been there previous, no-one's there, the cleaning lady's there earlier.

0:49:43 > 0:49:47We set up all the devices on the buckets.

0:49:47 > 0:49:51They put little tubs for fuel underneath the vehicles

0:49:51 > 0:49:56they put soaked rags, and they'd run the rags from vehicle to vehicle.

0:49:56 > 0:49:59The towel just goes and goes and goes and goes.

0:49:59 > 0:50:02It's tied together in sheets and it's absolute mess.

0:50:02 > 0:50:06They were careful to take the trucks with the fuel tanks,

0:50:06 > 0:50:09fill the beds of the vehicles with fuel.

0:50:09 > 0:50:12I'm standing there, I'm drenched in gasoline,

0:50:12 > 0:50:19we're about to burn 13 huge SUVs, and I was like, "What am I doing?"

0:50:19 > 0:50:23We take spray paint. Myself and another person go to the shed

0:50:23 > 0:50:26and I write "ELF" on one side in pretty huge letters,

0:50:26 > 0:50:30and the other person writes, "You cannot control what is wild."

0:50:34 > 0:50:38There's the E, L...

0:50:38 > 0:50:40and F.

0:50:40 > 0:50:43Everything was basically fully engulfed when I got here.

0:50:43 > 0:50:47With all the vehicles and the fuel tanks and so forth,

0:50:47 > 0:50:50there was lots of propellent in the area

0:50:50 > 0:50:54to make things burn, and things went up fast and hot.

0:50:54 > 0:50:56SIREN

0:50:56 > 0:51:01- 911, where is our emergency? - Man, we got a big fire...

0:51:04 > 0:51:07Investigators in the Pacific Northwest strongly suspect

0:51:07 > 0:51:13that two nearly simultaneous fires were acts of ecological terror.

0:51:13 > 0:51:18Monday morning, May 24, I got back to Eugene and I was like,

0:51:18 > 0:51:21"Wow, I really need to think about what I just did."

0:51:21 > 0:51:24Just seeing the absolute ruins

0:51:24 > 0:51:27and realising that all people were going to focus on

0:51:27 > 0:51:31was that things were destroyed, and the issues are being lost

0:51:31 > 0:51:35and all they care about is catching the people that did it.

0:51:35 > 0:51:39They were talking about Jefferson Poplar and about the University of Washington.

0:51:39 > 0:51:42Finding out what happened at the University of Washington,

0:51:42 > 0:51:44massive destruction to a library,

0:51:44 > 0:51:47not just the professor's office that was involved in the research,

0:51:47 > 0:51:50but the Center For Urban Horticulture,

0:51:50 > 0:51:53I was like, "This is too much, too fast, too big. What am I doing?"

0:51:53 > 0:51:57Not only had the fire at the University of Washington

0:51:57 > 0:51:58gotten out of control,

0:51:58 > 0:52:01they also discovered the Jefferson Poplar arson

0:52:01 > 0:52:03was based on faulty information.

0:52:03 > 0:52:06It turned out that while the previous owners of the property

0:52:06 > 0:52:09had been involved with genetic engineering,

0:52:09 > 0:52:11the new owners only had hybrid trees,

0:52:11 > 0:52:15developed using methods that have been around for hundreds of years.

0:52:15 > 0:52:18It's hard to really justify it in hindsight.

0:52:18 > 0:52:21Nobody would have targeted that facility

0:52:21 > 0:52:25had we known there was no genetic engineering going on there.

0:52:25 > 0:52:28So it left me with a really bad taste in my mouth,

0:52:28 > 0:52:31kind of like, "Wow, look at this huge, intense action.

0:52:31 > 0:52:35"Look what happened in Washington. Am I really ready for this?

0:52:35 > 0:52:37"Like this is super-serious and super-big."

0:52:37 > 0:52:40We went to the meeting a few weeks afterwards and I was like,

0:52:40 > 0:52:42"This is too much".

0:52:42 > 0:52:44Some members of the group were questioning the actions.

0:52:44 > 0:52:47But others felt they hadn't gone far enough.

0:52:47 > 0:52:51Some of them decided they wanted to target basically

0:52:51 > 0:52:56captains of industry, target people now, not just property.

0:52:56 > 0:53:00The last circle meeting basically cleaved between people

0:53:00 > 0:53:06that seemingly wanted to talk about it, not even plan it, but they were like, "We should talk about it,"

0:53:06 > 0:53:08And the people repulsed by it.

0:53:08 > 0:53:12And really, that ideological divide is what ended it. That was it.

0:53:12 > 0:53:15What people were discussing was my experiences of the arson.

0:53:15 > 0:53:19It made my mind kind of like spin.

0:53:19 > 0:53:23It's things like this that led me to think, "This is futile."

0:53:23 > 0:53:26There's got to be better ways of addressing what's going on

0:53:26 > 0:53:28in the world than just burning things down.

0:53:28 > 0:53:30As the ELF cell was dissolving,

0:53:30 > 0:53:35the larger activist community in Eugene was splintering as well.

0:53:35 > 0:53:37I think people were self-righteous.

0:53:37 > 0:53:39People thought they knew they had the answer,

0:53:39 > 0:53:42weren't willing to listen to other points of view

0:53:42 > 0:53:45because their view was more radical.

0:53:45 > 0:53:47All those things came into play,

0:53:47 > 0:53:51I think, to help narrow the amount of people that were connected

0:53:51 > 0:53:54withni the movement, to the point where it just went poof,

0:53:54 > 0:53:56it doesn't exist any more.

0:53:56 > 0:53:59That's one really sad thing about, you know,

0:53:59 > 0:54:01about a lot of social movements

0:54:01 > 0:54:07but I think ours especially, because we all are so critical of the world

0:54:07 > 0:54:09and the way people live in the world

0:54:09 > 0:54:12and how they interact with the natural world,

0:54:12 > 0:54:15that we sometimes are extremely critical of each other.

0:54:15 > 0:54:20And that is definitely part of our downfall as a movement.

0:54:20 > 0:54:24The scene was really imploding there at the time.

0:54:24 > 0:54:28I took a small trip to New York for my sister's 35th birthday.

0:54:28 > 0:54:32I hung out with my family and I was like, "I really love my family."

0:54:32 > 0:54:36I forgot that I... like I just grew so disconnected from them.

0:54:36 > 0:54:38And I met Jenny.

0:54:38 > 0:54:41And I was like, "All right, I'm going to move back to New York."

0:54:41 > 0:54:46After moving home, Daniel began work at the Rainforest Foundation.

0:54:46 > 0:54:50He organised protests against the Republican convention.

0:54:50 > 0:54:53And finally, he took a job at a domestic violence organisation,

0:54:53 > 0:54:56where he was working when he was arrested.

0:55:05 > 0:55:08The ELF fires in the Northwest had stopped,

0:55:08 > 0:55:11but the government continued to work on the case.

0:55:11 > 0:55:14We had a war room, basically. It was a situation we were in.

0:55:14 > 0:55:18We worked it, worked it, worked it. We had diagrams all over the walls,

0:55:18 > 0:55:22we had our flow charts and we had pictures of our target suspects.

0:55:22 > 0:55:26What's different on TV that's not realistic,

0:55:26 > 0:55:29is that everything is solved in 50 minutes, you know.

0:55:29 > 0:55:31That is not what happens here.

0:55:31 > 0:55:34Three years after Daniel moved back to New York,

0:55:34 > 0:55:36the government had still turned up no viable suspects.

0:55:36 > 0:55:41We came together and decided we would take a cold-case approach

0:55:41 > 0:55:45on one arson to see if we can turn any suspects

0:55:45 > 0:55:47in that particular arson.

0:55:47 > 0:55:50And the arson we chose was one that occurred in the city of Eugene,

0:55:50 > 0:55:53and it was the Joe Romania Truck Center arson,

0:55:53 > 0:55:56one in which 35 SUVs were burned to the ground.

0:55:56 > 0:55:59SIREN WAILS

0:56:04 > 0:56:06The new investigation yielded a number of clues

0:56:06 > 0:56:09which pointed the government to one local activist.

0:56:09 > 0:56:14The night of Romania, Jake Ferguson was accused of stealing a truck,

0:56:14 > 0:56:17which was kind of interesting.

0:56:17 > 0:56:20A truck would be needed for something like what occurred.

0:56:20 > 0:56:25We also knew that Josephine Overaker was arrested in the Olympia area

0:56:25 > 0:56:28just prior to an arson that occurred up there.

0:56:28 > 0:56:31And we knew that her boyfriend was Jacob Ferguson.

0:56:31 > 0:56:34That's when we really turned the heat up.

0:56:34 > 0:56:38With Jake now on their radar, they began following him everywhere,

0:56:38 > 0:56:40asking people about him

0:56:40 > 0:56:44and bringing his friends in for questioning before grand juries.

0:56:44 > 0:56:47You know, you start seeing cars following you,

0:56:47 > 0:56:51cars with guys sitting outside

0:56:51 > 0:56:54where you're staying, you know, and...

0:56:54 > 0:56:59It was really scary to think they were on the right track, you know,

0:56:59 > 0:57:02and that they just kind of like right there behind you.

0:57:02 > 0:57:07And he's also a drug user, and so that adds the paranoia,

0:57:07 > 0:57:09that they know, "They're coming for me."

0:57:09 > 0:57:12And of course in Jake's case some of it was true,

0:57:12 > 0:57:17where, when he did turn around, there were law enforcement following him.

0:57:17 > 0:57:20So lightning was striking all around him.

0:57:20 > 0:57:24And with that in mind, we gave him an out.

0:57:24 > 0:57:27We called him into the US Attorney's office,

0:57:27 > 0:57:29we were in a conference room there.

0:57:29 > 0:57:34And we explained to him quite simply that we knew what his situation was.

0:57:34 > 0:57:37They told him they knew he was a heroin addict,

0:57:37 > 0:57:41and that he'd lied to an investigator, which was a felony.

0:57:41 > 0:57:43And then they bluffed.

0:57:43 > 0:57:45Despite a lack of hard evidence,

0:57:45 > 0:57:48they led him to believe that they could tie him to the ELF arsons.

0:57:48 > 0:57:52We never told Jake Ferguson or his lawyer what we knew or didn't know,

0:57:52 > 0:57:53that's... You never do that.

0:57:53 > 0:57:58Could we have put him away for a long time? At that point, probably not.

0:57:58 > 0:58:01They told him the arsons carried a life sentence

0:58:01 > 0:58:02but if he became an informant,

0:58:02 > 0:58:05they'd let him walk away from his crimes.

0:58:05 > 0:58:09I described to him, tried to paint an image of him

0:58:09 > 0:58:14walking through the forest on a road some sunny summer afternoon,

0:58:14 > 0:58:16hand in hand with his son

0:58:16 > 0:58:20instead of looking at his son through bulletproof glass

0:58:20 > 0:58:22and he thought about it.

0:58:23 > 0:58:26And at that particular point in time then,

0:58:26 > 0:58:32he and his lawyer excused themselves and left, and said, "Well, we'll get back to you in a day or so."

0:58:32 > 0:58:35You know, he grew up with his dad in prison,

0:58:35 > 0:58:37and he saw how bad that life was.

0:58:37 > 0:58:41He didn't want to spend the rest of his life in prison,

0:58:41 > 0:58:45and have his son, you know, never see his dad.

0:58:45 > 0:58:4820 minutes later, we get a call from downstairs,

0:58:48 > 0:58:51and Mr Ferguson and his lawyer wanted to come and talk to us.

0:58:51 > 0:58:53And so they came up, and they said,

0:58:53 > 0:58:56"we would like to consider co-operation."

0:58:56 > 0:58:58"What do we need to do?"

0:58:58 > 0:59:01That was, when we found out he was going to cooperate,

0:59:01 > 0:59:04that was one of the best days I've ever had.

0:59:04 > 0:59:06So hew started listing off

0:59:06 > 0:59:09all the things that he had information about.

0:59:09 > 0:59:13And that basically was every arson in the district of Oregon.

0:59:13 > 0:59:15Arsons in Washington State,

0:59:15 > 0:59:17arsons in Wyoming, arsons in Colorado, California.

0:59:17 > 0:59:23We did not know the scope of what he had knowledge of.

0:59:23 > 0:59:26So that's when the investigation kind of broke open.

0:59:26 > 0:59:32The team immediately grew from 12 or 13 to 40, to 300 agents.

0:59:32 > 0:59:37After debriefing Jake about the 14 fires he'd been involved in,

0:59:37 > 0:59:39the Government had a problem.

0:59:39 > 0:59:43They knew that a heroin addict with a pentagram tattoo on his head

0:59:43 > 0:59:45would not make a persuasive witness in court

0:59:45 > 0:59:48and so they needed corroborating evidence.

0:59:48 > 0:59:50We talked to him and his lawyer,

0:59:50 > 0:59:53and said, "OK, this is what we want you to do,

0:59:53 > 0:59:54"we want you to wear a wire."

0:59:54 > 0:59:57They hid a recording device in the liner of his baseball cap

0:59:57 > 1:00:02and over the course of a year they flew him all over the country,

1:00:02 > 1:00:05where they arranged for him to accidentally bump into his old friends

1:00:05 > 1:00:08and get them to reminisce about the old days.

1:00:08 > 1:00:14He walked into an animal rights conference I was at in Washington Heights, at Holyrood church.

1:00:14 > 1:00:15It was bizarre to see him.

1:00:15 > 1:00:19I mean, he was bloated and kinda fat, and...

1:00:19 > 1:00:23Just looked really different, uh, he was talkative, which was weird,

1:00:23 > 1:00:26cos I always remember him as a really quiet guy,

1:00:26 > 1:00:28but he was talkative.

1:00:34 > 1:00:38I went to go get a coffee with him, and we just talked a bunch, and... Yeah, it was unfortunate.

1:01:00 > 1:01:04I mean, thinking about it, I can't help but be annoyed at myself,

1:01:04 > 1:01:08you know, like, "How did you not know something was really wrong here?"

1:01:30 > 1:01:35Feels rather foolish, you know, to have done that, but...

1:01:35 > 1:01:37I try to get over the shame

1:01:37 > 1:01:39associated with making dumb mistakes.

1:01:39 > 1:01:41'Jake was extremely conflicted.'

1:01:41 > 1:01:44We had to pump him up, it was like before a big fight,

1:01:44 > 1:01:49where we sat there with him for probably half an hour to an hour,

1:01:49 > 1:01:55just to get him, kind of, tuned up and ready to do it.

1:01:55 > 1:01:58It wasn't something I felt good about, you know.

1:02:00 > 1:02:04Getting people to confess by wearing a wire, you know.

1:02:04 > 1:02:06But what can you do, when you've already taken a deal,

1:02:06 > 1:02:11and you've admitted to, you know, all these felonies they've got?

1:02:11 > 1:02:14You know, if you do anything to disagree with the deal,

1:02:14 > 1:02:17the deal is off, and you've just confessed, so, like, you know...

1:02:19 > 1:02:20..life in prison.

1:02:20 > 1:02:24So once we had those recordings in place,

1:02:24 > 1:02:26we decided on a particular takedown date.

1:02:27 > 1:02:31The takedown presented an enormous logistical challenge.

1:02:31 > 1:02:34The Government belived that the suspects had to be arrested

1:02:34 > 1:02:35at exactly the same moment,

1:02:35 > 1:02:39or word would get out and they'd go into hiding.

1:02:39 > 1:02:42So teams of federal agents fanned out across the country.

1:02:42 > 1:02:46I went to New York and we stayed out on Daniel McGowan's house until,

1:02:46 > 1:02:49I think it was 10 or 11,

1:02:49 > 1:02:53making sure that he was going to be there first thing in the morning,

1:02:53 > 1:02:56and then we got, yeah, it was not very good sleep.

1:02:56 > 1:02:57The next morning,

1:02:57 > 1:03:01Detective Harvey and three federal agents followed Daniel to work.

1:03:03 > 1:03:07I look up, and around the corner comes these kinda big dudes.

1:03:07 > 1:03:12I just kept feeling wave after wave of dread and fear, just coming, you know, and I could barely talk,

1:03:12 > 1:03:15and I was like, I could barely talk, I was just like completely...

1:03:15 > 1:03:19I'd lost my voice, I was just... could barely move, you know? It was really horrible.

1:03:19 > 1:03:23And it was like, "You're being extradited to Oregon for ELF charges,

1:03:23 > 1:03:27"and you should consider your plea, and don't ring your family," all this stuff.

1:03:27 > 1:03:29We would have them have an attorney,

1:03:29 > 1:03:32we would present the evidence that we have against them,

1:03:32 > 1:03:36and say, "Here's your opportunity to become a cooperator

1:03:36 > 1:03:39"or remain a defendant, your choice."

1:03:39 > 1:03:42Yeah, when you sit down with them and you show them

1:03:42 > 1:03:44and let them listen to themselves on tape,

1:03:44 > 1:03:47you see them really sink.

1:03:47 > 1:03:49"OK, I'm done."

1:03:49 > 1:03:53It was a very successful approach, because, you know,

1:03:53 > 1:03:55the dominoes begin to fall.

1:03:55 > 1:04:03I was in bed, my, uh...husband was up for work, it was 5am,

1:04:03 > 1:04:09he gets up early for work, and he came into the bedroom

1:04:09 > 1:04:11and told me that the FBI and the Oregon State Police

1:04:11 > 1:04:13were there to talk to me, and right away,

1:04:13 > 1:04:17I pretty much knew what they were there to talk to me about.

1:04:19 > 1:04:22From there, it was just, um...

1:04:22 > 1:04:25You know, the hardest decision I've ever made in my life,

1:04:25 > 1:04:28whether or not I should take a plea bargain and cooperate

1:04:28 > 1:04:31or risk going to prison for the rest of my life,

1:04:31 > 1:04:34and I think that probably will be the hardest decision

1:04:34 > 1:04:36I've ever made in my life.

1:04:36 > 1:04:41And, um, I chose to cooperate and take the plea bargain,

1:04:41 > 1:04:45so that I could someday, once again, you know, be with my loved ones.

1:04:47 > 1:04:51I would have been fully prepared to have gone away

1:04:51 > 1:04:53for five to ten years, you know,

1:04:53 > 1:04:56it was really looking at dying alone in prison,

1:04:56 > 1:04:59knowing that every single loved one would have moved on

1:04:59 > 1:05:02and done something else in their life.

1:05:02 > 1:05:06It felt like a death sentence, you know, more than a life sentence.

1:05:08 > 1:05:11People can judge me for the decisions I've made

1:05:11 > 1:05:14but until you've been in that position, then it's, you know,

1:05:14 > 1:05:17it's really hard to know what you would do.

1:05:17 > 1:05:21I never in my life thought I would be cooperating with the FBI.

1:05:21 > 1:05:24I always thought that I would be able to stay strong

1:05:24 > 1:05:26and stay true to my values and my beliefs,

1:05:26 > 1:05:31and, you know, I guess sometimes you aren't as strong as you think.

1:05:40 > 1:05:42So, um...

1:05:42 > 1:05:46I don't know if you're on, but can we talk off-camera for a sec?

1:05:46 > 1:05:50Daniel's lawyers have negotiated a plea bargain.

1:05:50 > 1:05:51While most of his co-defendants

1:05:51 > 1:05:54have agreed to testify against each other,

1:05:54 > 1:05:57Daniel and three others have held out for different terms.

1:05:57 > 1:06:00They'll have to take responsibility for the arson,

1:06:00 > 1:06:03but will not be forced to give information about others -

1:06:03 > 1:06:05if they accept the deal.

1:06:20 > 1:06:23Wow. You are a big guy, happy birthday.

1:06:24 > 1:06:26Everything has this overshadowing.

1:06:26 > 1:06:30This is the last of holidays, this is the last birthday party,

1:06:30 > 1:06:31the last everything.

1:06:31 > 1:06:35It's funny, he's not a big materialistic person, but he bought her a lot of gifts this year,

1:06:35 > 1:06:39and I said to him, "You don't have to go to all this trouble," and he said, uh,

1:06:39 > 1:06:43"This might be the last time I can, you know, really give her gifts, and be here," so...

1:06:43 > 1:06:45that was kinda sad.

1:06:45 > 1:06:48I don't know. He's got some serious decisions to make.

1:06:48 > 1:06:52And they suck. No matter what you choose, they suck.

1:06:55 > 1:06:57LAUGHTER

1:07:00 > 1:07:04I just feel bad that, uh... This came up in this part of his life.

1:07:06 > 1:07:13Hoping for him to make an agreement, but going to trial, I think...

1:07:13 > 1:07:16I think, with the charges against him...

1:07:16 > 1:07:18that's two life sentences.

1:07:19 > 1:07:24I don't belive in his philosophies, but, uh...

1:07:24 > 1:07:27he's my son and I love him.

1:07:45 > 1:07:49So, cool, thanks everyone for coming...

1:07:52 > 1:07:55INDISTINCT

1:07:55 > 1:07:58Um, I just wanted everyone to come so I can tell you guys

1:07:58 > 1:08:02I made my final decision on, uh, the plea bargain

1:08:02 > 1:08:07the Government offered a few weeks ago, and so, um...

1:08:07 > 1:08:11I'm going to be agreeing to this plea bargain, and court on the 9th.

1:08:13 > 1:08:14So...

1:08:15 > 1:08:19The recommended sentence on the part of the Government is eight years.

1:08:19 > 1:08:24I won't be taken into custody at sentencing. I'm going to qualify for a self-report.

1:08:24 > 1:08:27But it's a major, major important thing to them

1:08:27 > 1:08:31to say that our crime is the federal crime of terrorism.

1:08:32 > 1:08:35Even though Daniel has now accepted a plea bargain,

1:08:35 > 1:08:37a hurdle still remains.

1:08:37 > 1:08:39A federal judge must determine whether the fires qualify

1:08:39 > 1:08:42for something called the Terrorism Enhancement.

1:08:43 > 1:08:47If the judge rules that Daniel's fires were terrorism,

1:08:47 > 1:08:50Daniel could be sent to a new, ultra-restricted prison

1:08:50 > 1:08:53that was set up after 9/11 to house terrorists.

1:08:53 > 1:08:57In the media and in the courtroom, the question is debated.

1:08:57 > 1:09:00Eco-terrorism - terrorist acts by radical groups...

1:09:00 > 1:09:01Eco-terrorists.

1:09:01 > 1:09:02Eco-terrorism.

1:09:02 > 1:09:04Environmental terrorists.

1:09:04 > 1:09:08People need to question, like, this buzz word and how it's being used,

1:09:08 > 1:09:10and how it's, like, just become the new communists,

1:09:10 > 1:09:13it's become the new, you know, it's like the boogeyman,

1:09:13 > 1:09:14it's a boogeyman word,

1:09:14 > 1:09:17it's like, whoever I really disagree with is a terrorist.

1:09:17 > 1:09:21Some people have a problem with, you know, calling this terrorism,

1:09:21 > 1:09:25but when you're basically making a threat when people go home at night

1:09:25 > 1:09:29wondering if they're going to be a target, uh, that's what terrorism is.

1:09:29 > 1:09:35After the fire, for a long time, you really looked over your shoulder.

1:09:35 > 1:09:38We put alarms in our home and things like that,

1:09:38 > 1:09:41that, uh, before, we hadn't thought about.

1:09:41 > 1:09:43You know, being a New Yorker,

1:09:43 > 1:09:46with experiencing such serious terrorism first hand, it's like,

1:09:46 > 1:09:53"How are you going to call someone who sets fire to an empty building a terrorist?"

1:09:53 > 1:09:57It's just inappropriate in every way, and it's an insult.

1:10:01 > 1:10:05The word "terrorism" to me is about killing humans,

1:10:05 > 1:10:07it's about ending innocent life.

1:10:08 > 1:10:13And that is the antithesis of what these people did.

1:10:13 > 1:10:16Concern for life was a very big part

1:10:16 > 1:10:20of the plan and implementation of these actions,

1:10:20 > 1:10:23and is why no-one was ever harmed or injured in them.

1:10:24 > 1:10:301200 incidents are being accredited to the ELF and ALF in this country,

1:10:30 > 1:10:32and not a single injury or death.

1:10:32 > 1:10:36Those statistics don't happen by accident.

1:10:36 > 1:10:41Terrorist acts, under the definition in law, can vary all over the board.

1:10:41 > 1:10:44There's no requirement for purposes of terrorism

1:10:44 > 1:10:47that you physically endanger another person's life.

1:10:47 > 1:10:50I mean, you don't have to be Bonnie and Clyde to be a bank robber,

1:10:50 > 1:10:53and you don't have to be al-Qaeda to be a terrorist.

1:10:53 > 1:10:56I don't think these people are terrorists.

1:10:56 > 1:10:59I think, uh, the people and the agencies

1:10:59 > 1:11:03and the industry that they're fighting are the true terrorists.

1:11:03 > 1:11:06When you've got big timber companies coming into the Northwest,

1:11:06 > 1:11:09clear-cutting old-growth forest,

1:11:09 > 1:11:12big oil companies with their big oil spills

1:11:12 > 1:11:16that cost billions and billions and billions of dollars.

1:11:16 > 1:11:20You don't see the FBI raiding these executives' homes or anything like that,

1:11:20 > 1:11:23they aren't being threatened with life in prison.

1:11:23 > 1:11:27All they really do is just pay a fine, and move on to the next court.

1:11:27 > 1:11:32The old adage that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter is true.

1:11:33 > 1:11:36You know, if you agree with their motives... Wow.

1:11:36 > 1:11:39They're a hero. They're not a terrorist at all.

1:11:39 > 1:11:42If you disagree with their motives, then they're a terrorist.

1:11:42 > 1:11:43That's tough, OK.

1:11:43 > 1:11:46That's why it's a whole lot cleaner to deal with crimes.

1:11:46 > 1:11:48Crime, non-crime, OK?

1:11:48 > 1:11:49I'm good with that.

1:11:49 > 1:11:52I can deal with arson. Arson is a crime.

1:11:52 > 1:11:53Good, I can do that.

1:11:53 > 1:11:54Yeah.

1:11:54 > 1:11:56Is it terrorism? We'll find out.

1:12:06 > 1:12:09You know, I read a book about doing time in federal prison,

1:12:09 > 1:12:11written by a lawyer who did time,

1:12:11 > 1:12:14and I'm very, you know, getting very prepared for the whole idea,

1:12:14 > 1:12:19- but that doesn't necessarily make it any easier, you know?- I know.

1:12:22 > 1:12:26- You're not alone, even though you're in there by yourself.- I know.

1:12:35 > 1:12:37Just, um...sucks.

1:12:37 > 1:12:40Sometimes it's hard not to just look at the whole situation and go, like,

1:12:40 > 1:12:43"What the fuck? "How'd this all happen?" You know?

1:12:48 > 1:12:52'The situation with the environment, it's not getting better, it's getting worse.'

1:12:52 > 1:12:57I'm not suggesting that the path of destruction, of destroying everything, is the right path,

1:12:57 > 1:12:58but I didn't know what to do.

1:12:58 > 1:13:03It's like when you're screaming at the top of your lungs, and, like, no-one hears you.

1:13:03 > 1:13:07Like, what the hell are you supposed to say? You know? What are you supposed to do?

1:13:12 > 1:13:15Going to the courthouse?

1:13:53 > 1:13:57The judge has sentenced Mr McGowan to 84 months in prison.

1:13:57 > 1:13:59That's seven years.

1:13:59 > 1:14:02The court also imposed the Terrorism Enhancement.

1:14:02 > 1:14:05He's been branded as a terrorist in the media,

1:14:05 > 1:14:10he will be listed as a successful Government terror prosecution

1:14:10 > 1:14:12for the rest of his life

1:14:12 > 1:14:14and we are very disappointed.

1:14:14 > 1:14:17We belive it's legally wrong and factually wrong.

1:14:19 > 1:14:22Have a look at the trail here, right here.

1:14:45 > 1:14:47Oh, my God, it fell through there.

1:14:54 > 1:14:58The older I get, um, the more circumspect I become.

1:14:58 > 1:15:02And, uh, I know now that the world is not black and white.

1:15:03 > 1:15:05Um...

1:15:05 > 1:15:06It's not that simple.

1:15:07 > 1:15:11When you... When I first read about these arsons

1:15:11 > 1:15:16and became involved in the investigation of the arsons,

1:15:16 > 1:15:20you see all the damage and the harm they've done

1:15:20 > 1:15:23and the threats they made - they're not very likeable people at all.

1:15:25 > 1:15:28Once you get to know them as a human being, you...

1:15:28 > 1:15:31You start looking at their motivations,

1:15:31 > 1:15:33cos you're curious about it.

1:15:33 > 1:15:36Why did they do such a horrible thing?

1:15:36 > 1:15:39And you look at their background and you look at their childhood,

1:15:39 > 1:15:44and you look at how they have evolved from the days

1:15:44 > 1:15:48when they committed all these crimes,

1:15:48 > 1:15:54and then instead of just being a cold mugshot on a piece of paper,

1:15:54 > 1:15:57they become human beings, and so you begin to understand them,

1:15:57 > 1:15:59and that's not that you're saying

1:15:59 > 1:16:01you approve of their conduct or their behaviour,

1:16:01 > 1:16:06but you gain an understanding, an insight, as to how it came to pass

1:16:06 > 1:16:08that they started doing these things.

1:16:10 > 1:16:14And then you're curious about how their lives will end up.

1:16:14 > 1:16:17But only time will tell.

1:16:18 > 1:16:20My stomach is flipping out!

1:16:22 > 1:16:25- You OK?- No, I got it.- You sure? - I gotta be independent.

1:16:25 > 1:16:27- OK.- You're not going to be there to advise me on stuff.

1:16:43 > 1:16:45I'm in your corner.

1:16:45 > 1:16:47I know. Thanks, Dad.

1:16:50 > 1:16:51Thanks for everything.

1:16:51 > 1:16:53SHE SOBS

1:16:54 > 1:16:56I'll see you later.

1:17:32 > 1:17:34SHE SNIFFS I love you too.

1:17:40 > 1:17:41SHE SOBS

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