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0:00:34 > 0:00:36TRANSLATION:
0:01:36 > 0:01:38SPEECH OVER POLICE RADIO
0:02:18 > 0:02:21I think that my father was somebody who was willing to go
0:02:21 > 0:02:23an extra mile for anybody who was in need.
0:02:27 > 0:02:31I think my father turned impossible situations into possible situations
0:02:31 > 0:02:33for many people who came looking for his aid.
0:02:38 > 0:02:40And something like the video, for me,
0:02:40 > 0:02:43is something that would go completely in character with him.
0:02:43 > 0:02:46And the fact that he would put his life on the line
0:02:46 > 0:02:50for a truth to be known for somebody that he cared deeply about
0:02:50 > 0:02:54is something that I would definitely consider part of my father's character.
0:03:04 > 0:03:05I didn't know about the video.
0:03:06 > 0:03:09But I did know he was conducting an investigation
0:03:09 > 0:03:12which, at the end of the day, involved certain parts of the government
0:03:12 > 0:03:14or people who worked in government.
0:03:14 > 0:03:16So that was as far as I knew.
0:03:22 > 0:03:25The funeral was horrible.
0:03:25 > 0:03:28It was horrible - it was horrible, horrible. I mean...
0:03:28 > 0:03:30Er, I think it was something that nobody expected
0:03:30 > 0:03:34and since nobody expected it, it made such a profound effect, as well. I mean, there was also...
0:03:34 > 0:03:38There's the murmur and, "What had happened," and, "Why was my father killed?"
0:03:38 > 0:03:39NOBODY expected this to happen.
0:03:44 > 0:03:47I got up, I spoke. I thanked everybody who was there
0:03:47 > 0:03:50and who had helped us in accompanying us in our grieving process.
0:03:50 > 0:03:55And that's when Luis Mendizabal, a very good friend of my father,
0:03:55 > 0:03:57he asked me for permission - if he could say something.
0:04:00 > 0:04:03He said, "All of us who are here loved Rodrigo very, very much.
0:04:03 > 0:04:06"If you want to know the truth about what happened to Rodrigo,
0:04:06 > 0:04:09"then here is his testimony."
0:04:11 > 0:04:14The news spread very quickly about it.
0:04:14 > 0:04:18Before I knew it, my phone was ringing off the hook. "Listen, I just saw the video."
0:04:20 > 0:04:25And they were just speechless. That was all they managed to say - "I saw the video."
0:04:32 > 0:04:35The radio station was playing it already
0:04:35 > 0:04:37when I was on my way to the newsroom.
0:04:40 > 0:04:43The video was all over.
0:04:43 > 0:04:46Everybody was listening through their headphones.
0:04:52 > 0:04:54I won't ever forget the first lines.
0:04:54 > 0:04:58I mean, I think nobody can forget the first lines of that video.
0:05:03 > 0:05:07"If you're watching this video, it's because the President killed me."
0:05:09 > 0:05:13The reaction was, "What's going on? What happened?"
0:05:13 > 0:05:15And I remember someone said, like,
0:05:15 > 0:05:18"If he is dead, I mean, this is the truth."
0:05:34 > 0:05:39Then El Periodico had the video uploaded immediately
0:05:39 > 0:05:41and the site crashed.
0:05:51 > 0:05:54THEY CHANT:
0:06:42 > 0:06:45The result of that video - all the demonstrations -
0:06:45 > 0:06:46was really shocking.
0:06:48 > 0:06:52Demonstrations are not spontaneous any more.
0:06:53 > 0:06:55It's not common to see the youth
0:06:55 > 0:07:00involved in claims of justice.
0:07:02 > 0:07:04That's another casualty of war.
0:07:06 > 0:07:07We lost the value for life.
0:07:09 > 0:07:13But that day, even a 15-year-old kid is talking about justice.
0:07:18 > 0:07:21I thought, "Something is going to happen."
0:07:26 > 0:07:29That video showed my father in...
0:07:29 > 0:07:31one of his best moments.
0:07:31 > 0:07:34The ideas that were conveyed in his message were so powerful.
0:07:36 > 0:07:40The way that he was able to transmit
0:07:40 > 0:07:44that we are living... a hypocritical lie.
0:07:44 > 0:07:48We cannot go about saying that everything is OK when it is not OK.
0:07:49 > 0:07:53There is no excuse, there is no justification why you are to behave
0:07:53 > 0:07:57in a way that is not consistent with your utmost ideals.
0:07:59 > 0:08:03And I think it spoke to the very heart of the person that he was.
0:08:08 > 0:08:10As I was stirring up my father's office,
0:08:10 > 0:08:15where you would expect to find the most important things, the most confidential things ever...
0:08:15 > 0:08:17I found a file for each of his kids,
0:08:17 > 0:08:20where he had pictures from when we were young,
0:08:20 > 0:08:22report cards from his children.
0:08:25 > 0:08:27All the things that he...
0:08:27 > 0:08:29I think that he felt most precious.
0:08:32 > 0:08:37He actually had love letters from my great-grandfather
0:08:37 > 0:08:39to my great-grandmother.
0:08:40 > 0:08:44He told me that, for him, true love actually did exist
0:08:44 > 0:08:50and that it was part of any person's goal to find it and to fight for it,
0:08:50 > 0:08:54and to be happy and to be content when you find love.
0:09:01 > 0:09:05My father was a lawyer and I was born in England,
0:09:05 > 0:09:09where my father was getting his master's degree in law, in Cambridge.
0:09:10 > 0:09:14Then after that, we went to Boston and we came back here to Guatemala -
0:09:14 > 0:09:17that's where my father lived ever since.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20We shared the same office space.
0:09:20 > 0:09:23When we worked together, we were just next door to each other,
0:09:23 > 0:09:26so I had the chance to spend time with him so much -
0:09:26 > 0:09:29probably more than almost anybody else.
0:09:32 > 0:09:35He wanted to have a role as a lawyer as he can...
0:09:37 > 0:09:40He was able to make a contribution to something good -
0:09:40 > 0:09:44that's why he always stayed away from courts and political intervention
0:09:44 > 0:09:47and intervention with governments and dealings with governments,
0:09:47 > 0:09:50because it's frequently very corrupt.
0:09:50 > 0:09:53My father prided himself on being a person who was never corrupt,
0:09:53 > 0:09:54who was incorruptible.
0:09:57 > 0:10:00I think the fact of him living through the war
0:10:00 > 0:10:04made him be aware about how polarised our society really is.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09Because after 36 years of internal conflict,
0:10:09 > 0:10:12it's not just the time - it's a complete mindset.
0:10:12 > 0:10:15Entire generations were born with a culture of conflict.
0:10:18 > 0:10:22I believe that my father did feel the need to promote a change in that sense.
0:12:56 > 0:12:59THEY SING
0:14:22 > 0:14:24ON RADIO:
0:16:22 > 0:16:25To be honest, I didn't really know who Carlos Castresana was.
0:16:27 > 0:16:30On Tuesday I just walked into the office
0:16:30 > 0:16:33and my father's partner told me, "Listen, CICIG wants to talk to you."
0:17:05 > 0:17:08We went over to CICIG headquarters on Tuesday,
0:17:08 > 0:17:10and we started saying everything we knew...
0:17:10 > 0:17:15"Listen, my father was doing this, he was investigating that."
0:17:15 > 0:17:19He needed to check my father's files and my father's personal archives
0:17:19 > 0:17:23and he said he needed access to his personal folders and computers.
0:17:24 > 0:17:28After a while, Carlos Castresana said,
0:17:28 > 0:17:33"You can rest assured that if we need to impeach the President, we will impeach him.
0:17:33 > 0:17:37"And we will prosecute him if he is, indeed, responsible for what has happened."
0:17:38 > 0:17:40Immediately after we had this meeting,
0:17:40 > 0:17:44we went over to my father's office and we delivered his two personal laptops -
0:17:44 > 0:17:46his office computer and his laptop.
0:17:48 > 0:17:49CICIG got full access.
0:22:33 > 0:22:37My father was very respected for being a very impeccable businessman.
0:22:40 > 0:22:46And my sister - she dedicated herself to work and her daughters.
0:22:46 > 0:22:50Very sociable, you know? She was like an angel wherever she was.
0:22:54 > 0:22:56They left around 15 to one.
0:22:56 > 0:22:58I left two minutes later.
0:23:01 > 0:23:03Like, three blocks from here,
0:23:03 > 0:23:06I saw my sister's car crashed in a post
0:23:06 > 0:23:09but I thought, "It cannot be my sister."
0:23:10 > 0:23:13And I parked and I called her.
0:23:13 > 0:23:17When the phone rang and rang and nobody answered, then I knew.
0:23:26 > 0:23:29My father was attacked from the right side
0:23:29 > 0:23:32and one of the bullets shot my sister.
0:23:34 > 0:23:35They both died immediately.
0:23:39 > 0:23:41At first glance and when it first happened,
0:23:41 > 0:23:44nobody really understood what was going on.
0:23:44 > 0:23:47And when I heard about the story
0:23:47 > 0:23:49and I read about the story in the paper
0:23:49 > 0:23:52and you see it was something like 15 shots
0:23:52 > 0:23:55were fired into Khalil Musa's body...
0:23:55 > 0:24:00And she was just, apparently, collateral damage to the incident.
0:24:02 > 0:24:07Rodrigo was very shocked with the killings of my father and my sister.
0:24:07 > 0:24:12So the day that my sister was buried, he called me that afternoon
0:24:12 > 0:24:16and he said, "I need to talk to you," and I went to his apartment.
0:24:17 > 0:24:22And he said, "I want you to know that I will be doing the investigation."
0:24:23 > 0:24:27I was afraid that something would happen to him so I said,
0:24:27 > 0:24:31"Please, Rodrigo, don't go ahead with this because we suffered enough."
0:24:31 > 0:24:32But he said, "No, I will go on."
0:24:36 > 0:24:40Ever since Khalil and Marjorie Musa's death, he started on a path
0:24:40 > 0:24:45where he was decided - he was not going to simply accept
0:24:45 > 0:24:50what we are used to accepting in our society, when something terrible happens.
0:24:50 > 0:24:53And he was determined to take this to the last consequences.
0:25:17 > 0:25:19He went to Luis Mendizabal.
0:25:22 > 0:25:25I recall my father speaking of Luis Mendizabal as this person
0:25:25 > 0:25:30who had a lot of information about what was going on in Guatemala, in government.
0:25:31 > 0:25:33Somebody my dad trusted implicitly.
0:31:11 > 0:31:13This used to be my father's apartment.
0:31:13 > 0:31:17About a year later, after he died, I moved in.
0:31:25 > 0:31:30For me, the presence of my dad was the fact that he always came back
0:31:30 > 0:31:33from work at lunchtime, to have lunch with his family.
0:31:35 > 0:31:39When he was a dad is when I feel that he was at his happiest,
0:31:39 > 0:31:41where he was most fulfilled.
0:31:44 > 0:31:47One of the first presents I had from my father was a Walkman,
0:31:47 > 0:31:50a really, really small Walkman, even before I could walk.
0:32:00 > 0:32:01LITTLE BOY SOBS
0:34:19 > 0:34:21I was ten when my parents got divorced.
0:34:23 > 0:34:25We were coming back from this country club
0:34:25 > 0:34:28and my father told me, "Listen, I have something to tell you,"
0:34:28 > 0:34:32and he told me, "Your mother and I are getting divorced."
0:34:34 > 0:34:37That was actually the first time I ever saw my father cry.
0:34:42 > 0:34:47I think my father felt that his father's shortcomings were
0:34:47 > 0:34:50something that he was never willing to accept for himself.
0:34:51 > 0:34:55And he told me that afterwards, that he actually never ever even
0:34:55 > 0:34:59considered the possibility of him getting a divorce.
0:34:59 > 0:35:01He always wanted to be a role model,
0:35:01 > 0:35:04somebody who is always there for his children.
0:35:07 > 0:35:10He had a responsibility to form a family and a home together
0:35:10 > 0:35:12and he couldn't do it.
0:37:04 > 0:37:05TELEPHONE CONVERSATION:
0:37:22 > 0:37:25TELEPHONE CONVERSATION:
0:38:16 > 0:38:20My father was surrounded by situations in his life where
0:38:20 > 0:38:23he found the law to be helpless in his aid.
0:38:25 > 0:38:28He lived in a place where you were used to people disappearing,
0:38:28 > 0:38:31you were used to people getting killed.
0:38:31 > 0:38:34When he was very young, when he was about 18 years old
0:38:34 > 0:38:37or 20 years old, his brother was killed, he was murdered.
0:40:13 > 0:40:16My father had these horrible situations where
0:40:16 > 0:40:19he really was helpless to do anything about them.
0:40:19 > 0:40:23My uncle as well, he disappeared and then showed up a couple of days
0:40:23 > 0:40:28later, dead. His nephews, actually two of his nephews were killed
0:40:28 > 0:40:34also in horrible circumstances. They showed up a couple of days later.
0:40:34 > 0:40:39They were never really people with ties to government or with ties to
0:40:39 > 0:40:43political involvement, or something of the sort, it was just violence.
0:45:34 > 0:45:38It was huge news, breaking news.
0:45:38 > 0:45:40It was a big success.
0:45:40 > 0:45:44You don't get crimes solved like that here.
0:45:44 > 0:45:47It was less than four months
0:45:47 > 0:45:52and you had someone accused of pulling the trigger.
0:47:26 > 0:47:30We didn't have information about how the investigation was going on.
0:47:34 > 0:47:39The newsroom got this anonymous envelope with text messages,
0:47:39 > 0:47:42love text messages from Rosenberg.
0:47:45 > 0:47:49You know, I thought, "How marvellous."
0:47:52 > 0:47:54But then I began reading them.
0:48:04 > 0:48:09There is a certain point when you realise that there was a very
0:48:09 > 0:48:10strong relationship.
0:48:12 > 0:48:15We never published a story on them.
0:50:42 > 0:50:45I found my father at home, crying.
0:50:47 > 0:50:52He was obviously going through one of the worst moments of his life.
0:50:52 > 0:50:56When I got close up, I asked him what had happened, he just said,
0:50:56 > 0:50:58"They killed her, they killed her!"
0:50:58 > 0:51:00And I was like, "They killed who?"
0:51:00 > 0:51:03And he said, "They killed Marjorie."
0:51:03 > 0:51:08It was at that exact moment that I realised who my father was
0:51:08 > 0:51:13having a relationship with after so much time.
0:51:13 > 0:51:18I had seen, obviously, the signs and the indications that he was
0:51:18 > 0:51:21with somebody and I was aware that he was having a relationship with
0:51:21 > 0:51:24somebody, but I really never knew until that moment
0:51:24 > 0:51:28in time that the person he had the relationship with was Marjorie.
0:55:20 > 0:55:24What CICIG told me is, "We traced back this phone number
0:55:24 > 0:55:27"and we linked it to the place of purchase and we were able to
0:55:27 > 0:55:30"find some cameras in the store where it was purchased.
0:55:30 > 0:55:34"Even though the payphone was paid in cash, there's a clear video
0:55:34 > 0:55:38"depicting Luis Lopez as the person who was buying this cell phone."
0:55:42 > 0:55:45I remember that the first thought that went through my mind was,
0:55:45 > 0:55:51"I don't know how or why, but I know he is not guilty of being
0:55:51 > 0:55:53"part of a conspiracy against my father."
0:55:54 > 0:55:58More than his worker, he was his friend.
0:55:58 > 0:56:00My father confided in Luis some things
0:56:00 > 0:56:01he wouldn't even confide in us.
0:56:03 > 0:56:05I told him, I said, "Listen, Luis,
0:56:05 > 0:56:07"I know that my father has trusted you with
0:56:07 > 0:56:11"an amazing amount of information and you were a very close friend
0:56:11 > 0:56:16"of my father's, and I will make sure with every force that I have
0:56:16 > 0:56:20"and anything in my power, that you will not get in trouble with this.
0:56:20 > 0:56:24"But if you ever made any promise to my father that you cannot
0:56:24 > 0:56:27"tell anybody about this, you need to tell me about it now
0:56:27 > 0:56:29"and you need to tell CICIG about it."
1:07:06 > 1:07:09It wasn't until the day before my father died
1:07:09 > 1:07:13that I perceived my father was in danger, immediate danger.
1:07:16 > 1:07:18I got a call from my father very early.
1:07:18 > 1:07:21He called me over and offered me to go to Antigua.
1:07:21 > 1:07:24From the moment I told my father I was going with him,
1:07:24 > 1:07:27he hesitated in terms of which car we should take,
1:07:27 > 1:07:29where we should meet.
1:07:32 > 1:07:34We started going out of his house and he was looking
1:07:34 > 1:07:37over his shoulder and making sure there was nobody there.
1:07:41 > 1:07:44And he said that
1:07:44 > 1:07:47he just simply felt there was something that he had to do,
1:07:47 > 1:07:49because he could not be at peace -
1:07:49 > 1:07:54simply accepting the fact that two people he cared very much about
1:07:54 > 1:07:58were murdered and nobody was going to do anything about it.
1:08:00 > 1:08:02And he said,
1:08:02 > 1:08:05"Even if that means that I'm willing to risk my life to do it."
1:08:07 > 1:08:09When I heard that, I was obviously concerned
1:08:09 > 1:08:13and I turned to my father and said, "Listen, this is not something
1:08:13 > 1:08:16"that you have to do. This is something where you can protect yourself."
1:08:18 > 1:08:21He told me he had an offer from a person to leave Guatemala
1:08:21 > 1:08:24and go to, I think it was Washington,
1:08:24 > 1:08:27and to present a claim before some international court.
1:08:27 > 1:08:31He told me, "Listen, if something were to eventually happen
1:08:31 > 1:08:34"in terms of what's going on, you have to understand that this
1:08:34 > 1:08:36"is not your fight.
1:08:37 > 1:08:39"This is my battle, not yours."
1:15:15 > 1:15:17I was infuriated at first.
1:15:18 > 1:15:20I was appalled.
1:15:20 > 1:15:23First thing that went through my mind is, "Of course, why not?"
1:15:23 > 1:15:25I mean, that's the easiest way to go.
1:15:26 > 1:15:29Because at the same time, there was somebody to blame
1:15:29 > 1:15:31but there was nobody to blame.
1:15:32 > 1:15:33I told him,
1:15:33 > 1:15:37"We will have our own private opinion about it from here on in.
1:15:39 > 1:15:43"I do want to ask you one thing," and I asked a favour of him, and I told him,
1:15:43 > 1:15:46"If tomorrow in your press conference you feel that my father
1:15:46 > 1:15:48"was an honourable man,
1:15:48 > 1:15:51"then I ask you to please say it during your press conference."
1:16:28 > 1:16:34The newsroom, we were all paying attention to that press conference,
1:16:34 > 1:16:39and I remember very well that it was like shock after shock,
1:16:39 > 1:16:42and the reporters were, "Oh! Dios mio!"
1:16:42 > 1:16:46And then we all kept quiet hearing the rest of the story.
1:22:45 > 1:22:49You can never fully accept or you can never comprehend that...
1:22:51 > 1:22:54..how something so intricate would have been possible.
1:22:56 > 1:23:00You don't come to terms with something as difficult as that.
1:23:03 > 1:23:05The sudden death of Marjorie Musa,
1:23:05 > 1:23:08was something that I think affected him greatly.
1:23:08 > 1:23:12The worst part for him in all of this, was that he found himself
1:23:12 > 1:23:16completely impotent to do something to make it right.
1:23:16 > 1:23:18I think that dismantled him.
1:23:23 > 1:23:26My father was an amazing person, regardless of the way
1:23:26 > 1:23:28that his life came to an end.
1:23:32 > 1:23:35The way he lived was, for us, the most important thing.
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