The Law in These Parts

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0:01:12 > 0:01:15This is the beginning of a documentary film.

0:01:20 > 0:01:25The common understanding is that a documentary depicts reality,

0:01:25 > 0:01:27unlike fiction, which tells a story.

0:01:31 > 0:01:35This definition may be accepted but it's not precise.

0:01:50 > 0:01:53In the film, I will document a legal system.

0:01:55 > 0:01:58A system which organises law and order

0:01:58 > 0:02:01within the territories we conquered in 1967.

0:02:03 > 0:02:07It's a unique system, only a few people understand it in depth.

0:02:10 > 0:02:13It's also worth reflecting on the term law.

0:02:15 > 0:02:18A common understanding is that the law is a collection of rules

0:02:18 > 0:02:21that organise life in a particular place.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24And define the rights and obligations that exist

0:02:24 > 0:02:28among people and between people and the authorities.

0:02:39 > 0:02:42The law, that organises people's lives,

0:02:42 > 0:02:45is entrusted to certain people.

0:02:45 > 0:02:48People like the protagonists of this film.

0:02:49 > 0:02:52Our protagonists are legal professionals.

0:02:52 > 0:02:56All of them are veterans of the Israeli Military Legal Corps.

0:02:57 > 0:03:02They, and many others, are the people who wrote, developed,

0:03:02 > 0:03:05and implemented the law of the occupied territories.

0:03:16 > 0:03:20A legal professional's work is hidden from sight.

0:03:20 > 0:03:24It's carried out in a language most of us don't even understand.

0:03:26 > 0:03:30The work of our protagonists always remains behind the scenes.

0:03:30 > 0:03:33And never receives the exposure it deserves.

0:03:36 > 0:03:40This work was never filmed but it is documented.

0:03:40 > 0:03:44Hundreds of thousands of pages, military orders,

0:03:44 > 0:03:46legal opinions and court rulings

0:03:46 > 0:03:51tell whoever reads them a story about law in the time of occupation.

0:04:41 > 0:04:45The story actually begins before 1967.

0:04:48 > 0:04:50In the years leading up to the war,

0:04:50 > 0:04:53the Legal Corps had been studying international law,

0:04:53 > 0:04:57focusing on laws of warfare and occupation of enemy territory.

0:05:01 > 0:05:05In those years, the Military Advocate General, Meir Shamgar,

0:05:05 > 0:05:10wrote Guide For A Military Advocate In Occupied Territory.

0:05:10 > 0:05:13A manual containing all the information our military

0:05:13 > 0:05:17legal professionals would need should our army ever occupy

0:05:17 > 0:05:19territory in a neighbouring country.

0:05:37 > 0:05:42Emergency war kit included documents notifying an occupied population

0:05:42 > 0:05:47the basic principles of the new law they would be subjected to.

0:05:47 > 0:05:51All of this according to what is dictated in the Hague Regulations

0:05:51 > 0:05:52and Geneva Convention.

0:07:04 > 0:07:08The law, which is entrusted in the hands of certain people,

0:07:08 > 0:07:10applies to other people.

0:07:10 > 0:07:13Overnight, approximately 1,000,000 people,

0:07:13 > 0:07:15residents of the West Bank and Gaza,

0:07:15 > 0:07:18become subject to the new legal system.

0:07:20 > 0:07:24According to international law, an occupying army is responsible

0:07:24 > 0:07:29for the security and welfare of the residents in areas it occupies.

0:07:29 > 0:07:33The mission was to uphold these responsibilities.

0:07:33 > 0:07:37During the first year, our military legal men formulated

0:07:37 > 0:07:40hundreds of orders in order to meet the changing needs

0:07:40 > 0:07:43of day-to-day life in the territories.

0:07:52 > 0:07:56It was necessary to supervise the content of school books.

0:07:56 > 0:08:00To determine that the Israeli pound is legal currency,

0:08:00 > 0:08:02to set the exchange rates,

0:08:02 > 0:08:05to oversee property of the occupied state,

0:08:05 > 0:08:08to protect archaeological sites,

0:08:08 > 0:08:12to enable freedom of worship for all religions.

0:08:38 > 0:08:40The local residents learned the law,

0:08:40 > 0:08:43not through reading the orders issued,

0:08:43 > 0:08:45but through contact with the new authorities.

0:08:47 > 0:08:51Over the course of half a century, they were subject to Ottoman rule,

0:08:51 > 0:08:55then British, then Jordanian or Egyptian.

0:08:55 > 0:08:59Now they find themselves governed by the Israeli military.

0:10:48 > 0:10:52The people subjected to the law will be represented in this

0:10:52 > 0:10:55film by images from documentaries made over the last 40 years.

0:10:56 > 0:11:00Mostly by Israeli filmmakers, like me.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41In films like these,

0:11:41 > 0:11:45the person who is documenting presents facts and context.

0:11:46 > 0:11:48The subject is filmed as himself

0:11:48 > 0:11:53and the viewer judges reality as it is presented before him.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02The first order to be published,

0:12:02 > 0:12:06based on British emergency regulations of 1945,

0:12:06 > 0:12:08establishes military courts

0:12:08 > 0:12:12in which people who violate order and security will be tried.

0:12:14 > 0:12:17The order states that the judges in such courts should be

0:12:17 > 0:12:19three military officers

0:12:19 > 0:12:22and that at least one of them must have legal training.

0:12:24 > 0:12:27"The prosecutor", states the order,

0:12:27 > 0:12:30"will be an officer appointed by the regional commander.

0:12:30 > 0:12:35"The defendant may be represented by an attorney of his choice.

0:12:36 > 0:12:38"The trial will take place in Hebrew

0:12:38 > 0:12:42"but a soldier who can translate the proceedings into Arabic

0:12:42 > 0:12:46"must be present and the proceedings will be transcribed."

0:12:52 > 0:12:55Today, hundreds of thousands of court minutes

0:12:55 > 0:12:58are preserved in our military archives.

0:12:58 > 0:13:02The indictments, arguments and judgements

0:13:02 > 0:13:05tell the history of the relationship between the

0:13:05 > 0:13:09Palestinians in the territories and the law they are subjected to.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33The Israeli soldiers who testified in the trial said

0:14:33 > 0:14:37they were flown in by helicopter to pursue a group of people who

0:14:37 > 0:14:40entered the occupied area from Jordan illegally.

0:14:42 > 0:14:46The infiltrators were armed and a fire-fight broke out.

0:14:46 > 0:14:50Eight of the infiltrators surrendered and were captured.

0:14:53 > 0:14:57As the trial began, the group's commander spoke to the court.

0:14:59 > 0:15:01"I was born in Jerusalem,"

0:15:01 > 0:15:04he said, "and left the country after the war.

0:15:06 > 0:15:09"I am certain that this land is my land."

0:15:14 > 0:15:16The documents in the file reveal

0:15:16 > 0:15:19that Omar Qassem left the West Bank

0:15:19 > 0:15:23in 1967 during a period when many Palestinians left the area,

0:15:23 > 0:15:25uncertain of what might come.

0:15:26 > 0:15:30In Jordan, he joined one of the Palestinian organisations,

0:15:30 > 0:15:32went through military training

0:15:32 > 0:15:35and was sent back into the occupied area in order to attack

0:15:35 > 0:15:39Israeli targets and help spark an armed uprising in the region.

0:15:42 > 0:15:47In court, Qassem claims that he is a soldier who fought against soldiers.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50He is not willing to stand trial as a criminal.

0:16:35 > 0:16:38Today, the distinction between a soldier and a terrorist

0:16:38 > 0:16:41is deeply rooted in our legal and political discourse.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44But apparently at the end of the 1960s,

0:16:44 > 0:16:49it was still necessary to establish this difference in the law.

0:16:49 > 0:16:52The Qassem judgement is one of the first legal texts

0:16:52 > 0:16:55that contends with the legitimacy of the

0:16:55 > 0:16:57Palestinian struggle against the state of Israel.

0:16:59 > 0:17:04In his ruling, Judge Abulafia writes that the Geneva Convention

0:17:04 > 0:17:07indeed grants special status to lawful combatants,

0:17:07 > 0:17:10including members of liberation organisations.

0:17:12 > 0:17:16"To be granted such status," explains the judge,

0:17:16 > 0:17:19"these combatants must meet certain requirements.

0:17:19 > 0:17:21"Most importantly,

0:17:21 > 0:17:24"they must fight according to the international laws of warfare.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32"The Popular Front For The Liberation Of Palestine,"

0:17:32 > 0:17:34writes the judge,

0:17:34 > 0:17:38"is not an organisation that upholds laws of warfare.

0:17:38 > 0:17:42"Their attacks on innocent civilians in the Jerusalem market

0:17:42 > 0:17:45"or in the bus station in Tel Aviv are clear proof of this.

0:17:48 > 0:17:51"Members of such an organisation have no right to claim

0:17:51 > 0:17:53"the status of lawful combatants.

0:17:55 > 0:17:57"International law was not written

0:17:57 > 0:18:00"in order to protect terrorists and criminals."

0:19:57 > 0:20:01According to what she said during her interrogation,

0:20:01 > 0:20:05Arifa met a woman in the marketplace who told her that a certain

0:20:05 > 0:20:09man asked that she meet him in the vineyards outside the village

0:20:09 > 0:20:11the next day.

0:20:13 > 0:20:17Arifa understood that this man had come from Jordan illegally

0:20:17 > 0:20:20and that he was hiding from the authorities.

0:20:20 > 0:20:24She also figured he might be hungry and thirsty.

0:20:25 > 0:20:28When she went to the meeting, Arifa brought bread

0:20:28 > 0:20:31and a couple of tins of sardines with her.

0:20:32 > 0:20:34Over the next two weeks she continued to bring food

0:20:34 > 0:20:39and water for the man and for three others who were hiding with him.

0:20:40 > 0:20:44Months later she was arrested for this and brought to trial.

0:21:31 > 0:21:34Arifa Ibrahim's attorney claims her client shouldn't be

0:21:34 > 0:21:38punished at all for feeding a person who asked for help.

0:21:38 > 0:21:41Even if the man is wanted by the authorities.

0:21:45 > 0:21:48"Giving food to a person in need," claims the attorney,

0:21:48 > 0:21:50"is a universally accepted human value."

0:21:55 > 0:21:59Justice Jacob Auer does not accept the defence's arguments.

0:21:59 > 0:22:02In his ruling, he writes that

0:22:02 > 0:22:06"these infiltrating terrorists are like poisonous snakes.

0:22:06 > 0:22:09"The so-called human values mentioned by the defence attorney

0:22:09 > 0:22:11"do not apply to them."

0:22:12 > 0:22:16The judge maintains that apparently punishing the infiltrators

0:22:16 > 0:22:19themselves is not sufficient.

0:22:19 > 0:22:22"We have to make the residents understand that infiltrators

0:22:22 > 0:22:24"must not be aided.

0:22:27 > 0:22:31"The only way to achieve this result," says the judge, "is to

0:22:31 > 0:22:36"make the local population feel that aiding these people is dangerous."

0:22:37 > 0:22:41He therefore decides to sentence the defendant before him

0:22:41 > 0:22:43to a year-and-a-half in prison.

0:23:34 > 0:23:38Justice demands that I, the person documenting the case,

0:23:38 > 0:23:40interview the defendant, Arifa Ibrahim.

0:23:42 > 0:23:45What does she remember from her trial in 1976?

0:23:47 > 0:23:49Why didn't she say anything throughout the proceedings?

0:23:55 > 0:23:59The minutes state you were a widow, who did your children stay with?

0:24:01 > 0:24:04If you had realised there was a risk,

0:24:04 > 0:24:06why did you keep on bringing him food?

0:24:08 > 0:24:11Did your punishment actually deter others from having contact

0:24:11 > 0:24:13with members of the resistance?

0:24:18 > 0:24:23It turns out that Arifa Ibrahim still lives in the village of Beit Fajjar.

0:24:25 > 0:24:27Justice demands that I interview her

0:24:27 > 0:24:30rather than make do with quotes from her trial

0:24:30 > 0:24:34and images of unknown Palestinian women filmed at the same period.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39But I do not intend to interview her.

0:24:39 > 0:24:43Because this film is not about the people who broke the law.

0:24:43 > 0:24:47It's about the people who were charged with upholding it.

0:26:45 > 0:26:46HE COUGHS

0:29:38 > 0:29:40The image of Palestinians

0:29:40 > 0:29:43gathered at the entrance of the Israeli Supreme Court

0:29:43 > 0:29:46is one of the key images of the subject I'm documenting.

0:29:52 > 0:29:56The Israeli Supreme Court was the first court in history

0:29:56 > 0:29:59to contend with a unique challenge.

0:29:59 > 0:30:03Doing justice not only for Israeli citizens

0:30:03 > 0:30:07but for people that the state is holding under military occupation.

0:31:24 > 0:31:27A decade into the occupation,

0:31:27 > 0:31:30one of the main issues that the Supreme Court had to address

0:31:30 > 0:31:33was Israelis settling in the occupied territories.

0:31:35 > 0:31:40In the late 1960s, Israeli citizens began moving to the territories,

0:31:40 > 0:31:44claiming that settling these areas is a biblical right.

0:31:44 > 0:31:46From a different perspective,

0:31:46 > 0:31:50it was argued that Article 49 of the Geneva Convention prohibits

0:31:50 > 0:31:55an occupying power from transferring its citizens into the occupied area.

0:32:18 > 0:32:22Palestinian opposition to the settlements led to demonstrations

0:32:22 > 0:32:26and confrontations between the local residents and the army.

0:32:28 > 0:32:32The resistance escalated as some of the settlements were built

0:32:32 > 0:32:36on land seized from Palestinian residents by the military.

0:32:36 > 0:32:40Land owners received military orders saying that the army

0:32:40 > 0:32:44needs their land temporarily for security purposes.

0:32:44 > 0:32:47Thus they must vacate the property and receive compensation.

0:33:43 > 0:33:45While bulldozers prepare the land,

0:33:45 > 0:33:48Adhil Dweikat from the village of Rujeib

0:33:48 > 0:33:51petitions the Supreme Court of Israel.

0:33:51 > 0:33:53He argues that the seizure of his land,

0:33:53 > 0:33:56and that of 11 other residents, is illegal.

0:34:00 > 0:34:02Dweikat says to the court,

0:34:02 > 0:34:06"There is no real security need behind the seizure of this land.

0:34:06 > 0:34:10"The land is being seized for civil rather than military needs

0:34:10 > 0:34:14"and this is a blatant violation of international law."

0:34:32 > 0:34:37The Supreme Court ruling came months after the land was seized.

0:34:37 > 0:34:41The Elon Moreh settlement was already a fact on the ground.

0:34:43 > 0:34:45In their decision,

0:34:45 > 0:34:48the Supreme Court justices wrote that, "International law indeed

0:34:48 > 0:34:53"permits the seizure of personal property for security reasons.

0:34:53 > 0:34:55"However," they added,

0:34:55 > 0:35:00"they feel that security was not the main reason for this seizure.

0:35:00 > 0:35:04"There was another perhaps more important motivation here -

0:35:04 > 0:35:07"building a civilian settlement.

0:35:07 > 0:35:09"And according to international law,"

0:35:09 > 0:35:13write the judges, "such a motivation cannot justify

0:35:13 > 0:35:18"seizure of a resident's private property in occupied territory."

0:35:18 > 0:35:21The court instructs the regional commander to evacuate the new

0:35:21 > 0:35:25settlement and return the land to its Palestinian owners.

0:36:40 > 0:36:44As the legal adviser to the commander of the occupied area,

0:36:44 > 0:36:48Ramati knew the local land laws dating back to the Jordanian

0:36:48 > 0:36:51kingdom and even the Ottoman Empire.

0:36:53 > 0:36:57He told Sharon that in the 19th century Ottoman land law

0:36:57 > 0:37:00there's a special term - Mawat Land.

0:37:00 > 0:37:03Dead land.

0:37:03 > 0:37:07This type of land must be far enough from the nearest village

0:37:07 > 0:37:10so that one can no longer hear the crow of a rooster

0:37:10 > 0:37:13standing at the edge of that village.

0:37:17 > 0:37:19According to that old Ottoman law,

0:37:19 > 0:37:23such land may belong to a resident only temporarily,

0:37:23 > 0:37:25as long as he cultivates it.

0:37:26 > 0:37:30But if the resident fails to cultivate the land for three

0:37:30 > 0:37:34consecutive years, the dead land reverts to the empire.

0:37:34 > 0:37:37And legally speaking, Ramati explains,

0:37:37 > 0:37:41the regional military commander is the successor of that empire.

0:38:30 > 0:38:32LOUD EXPLOSION

0:39:03 > 0:39:07While the construction of new settlements is booming,

0:39:07 > 0:39:10another petition is submitted to the Supreme Court.

0:39:13 > 0:39:17This time it comes from the villagers of Tarqumia, near Hebron.

0:39:18 > 0:39:22Hundreds of acres near their village are declared by the

0:39:22 > 0:39:24regional commander to be state land.

0:39:26 > 0:39:29The villagers argue before the Supreme Court that even if

0:39:29 > 0:39:32certain land could have been considered state land

0:39:32 > 0:39:36back in the Jordanian and Ottoman times, international law

0:39:36 > 0:39:41still prohibits an occupying power from using this land as it pleases.

0:39:42 > 0:39:46The presiding justice was Meir Shamgar -

0:39:46 > 0:39:48former Military Advocate General who had been

0:39:48 > 0:39:52appointed in 1975 to the Israeli Supreme Court.

0:40:27 > 0:40:28In the Al-Nazal case,

0:40:28 > 0:40:32Justice Shamgar had to determine what we can or cannot do with

0:40:32 > 0:40:36land that is legally considered property of the occupied state.

0:40:38 > 0:40:43Shamgar explains that, according to the Hague Treaty,

0:40:43 > 0:40:47an occupying army is only a guardian of the occupied state's property.

0:40:47 > 0:40:50"The army may not transfer ownership of the property.

0:40:50 > 0:40:54"It must safeguard it and return it to the occupied state

0:40:54 > 0:40:56"when the occupation ends."

0:41:07 > 0:41:09"But despite these prohibitions,"

0:41:09 > 0:41:13Shamgar adds, "the Hague Treaty also recognises the right of an

0:41:13 > 0:41:18"occupying power to make temporary use of the occupied state's property.

0:41:20 > 0:41:23"Under this definition," explains Shamgar,

0:41:23 > 0:41:27"the occupied property may be rented, leased or cultivated.

0:41:27 > 0:41:31"And therefore, the actions of the military concerning

0:41:31 > 0:41:35"occupied state property are compatible with international law."

0:41:40 > 0:41:42HELICOPTER ROTOR WHIRS

0:41:48 > 0:41:52Today, around a half million Israeli citizens

0:41:52 > 0:41:55live in the territories conquered in 1967.

0:41:55 > 0:41:59Most of them live in settlements built on hundreds of thousands

0:41:59 > 0:42:04of acres declared by the military commander to be state land.

0:44:25 > 0:44:29Justice Shamgar doesn't see the connection between the Supreme Court

0:44:29 > 0:44:32rulings and our settlements in the occupied territories.

0:44:38 > 0:44:43But I, the person documenting the issue, see a connection

0:44:43 > 0:44:47and I present the rulings and the events as I understand them.

0:44:50 > 0:44:54In the film, I rule on what reality is.

0:44:58 > 0:45:01The Palestinian residents, on the other hand,

0:45:01 > 0:45:04say that they don't see the connection between the Ottoman law

0:45:04 > 0:45:07and the establishment of hundreds of new settlements.

0:45:10 > 0:45:13The connection was made by legal professionals,

0:45:13 > 0:45:15adopted by the government,

0:45:15 > 0:45:20upheld by Supreme Court rulings and thus it became law.

0:45:44 > 0:45:48CROWD CHANTING AND CLAPPING

0:46:07 > 0:46:09DEVICE EXPLODING

0:46:09 > 0:46:11SCREAMING AND GUNFIRE

0:46:17 > 0:46:19GUNFIRE

0:46:23 > 0:46:28In December 1987 the widespread popular uprising breaks out

0:46:28 > 0:46:30in the occupied territories.

0:46:35 > 0:46:38As the temporary occupation enters its 21st year,

0:46:38 > 0:46:42Palestinian frustration erupts into mass demonstrations

0:46:42 > 0:46:46and actions against the army and Israeli settlers.

0:46:48 > 0:46:50GUN FIRING

0:46:52 > 0:46:55The population pays a high price for the uprising

0:46:55 > 0:46:58but the occupation comes to the attention

0:46:58 > 0:47:00of the international community.

0:47:00 > 0:47:02The whole world watches as Israel,

0:47:02 > 0:47:05known as the only democracy in the Middle East,

0:47:05 > 0:47:08contends with the civilian uprising.

0:47:24 > 0:47:29Israel chooses not to give in and retreat from the West Bank, in Gaza,

0:47:29 > 0:47:33but, at the same time, not to use its full military force

0:47:33 > 0:47:35against the rebellious population.

0:47:37 > 0:47:43The goal is to try to make the population obey the law once more.

0:47:51 > 0:47:55In the shadow of the familiar images from the intifada period

0:47:55 > 0:47:59is the work of a new generation of military legal professionals.

0:47:59 > 0:48:03Most of them were not part of the creation of this system

0:48:03 > 0:48:06but now they must adapt it to the new reality.

0:48:07 > 0:48:12They are the ones who must enforce the law with the local population

0:48:12 > 0:48:15but, at the same time, deliver justice.

0:48:27 > 0:48:29SPEAKS IN HEBREW

0:48:29 > 0:48:34I realise that I am sent to the West Bank by this great flag.

0:48:34 > 0:48:37To the people who sit here, opposite it,

0:48:37 > 0:48:41if you witness the flag of the enemy and I represent that flag,

0:48:41 > 0:48:44but, on the other hand, the other symbol,

0:48:44 > 0:48:49which is even higher than the flag, are the scales of justice,

0:48:49 > 0:48:52and I always say that I would like to be able,

0:48:52 > 0:48:55and I hope I can always love my country, as represented by the flag,

0:48:55 > 0:48:58and still love justice, and still uphold justice.

0:52:16 > 0:52:17MAN SHOUTING

0:52:22 > 0:52:25One of our main means of suppressing the intifada

0:52:25 > 0:52:28was imprisoning as many activists as possible.

0:52:34 > 0:52:38Over the four-year uprising more than 50,000 people were arrested.

0:52:39 > 0:52:42Some of them were arrested a number of times.

0:52:45 > 0:52:50Most detainees were charged with felonies and brought to trial.

0:52:50 > 0:52:55But according to the British emergency regulations of 1945,

0:52:55 > 0:52:59a person can also be incarcerated without being charged.

0:53:00 > 0:53:03This kind of administrative arrest is put into effect,

0:53:03 > 0:53:08with an order issued by the army, against a particular resident.

0:53:08 > 0:53:12The order states that this person constitutes a threat to security

0:53:12 > 0:53:16and therefore must be incarcerated for a number of months.

0:53:19 > 0:53:22To prevent arbitrary use of these means,

0:53:22 > 0:53:25the law stipulated that administrative detainees

0:53:25 > 0:53:30must be brought before a judge within 96 hours of their arrest,

0:53:30 > 0:53:34in order to examine the necessity of their detention.

0:55:55 > 0:55:57Removing the requirement

0:55:57 > 0:56:00that every single case of administrative detention be reviewed

0:56:00 > 0:56:03made processing these arrests much easier.

0:56:05 > 0:56:10Many detainees didn't see the point of appealing and, under new rules,

0:56:10 > 0:56:13the army was not required to hold a hearing about their case.

0:56:17 > 0:56:20A detainee who demanded to see a judge was brought,

0:56:20 > 0:56:23within a number of weeks or months,

0:56:23 > 0:56:26before a military officer with legal training.

1:00:56 > 1:01:00The interview I conducted with Mr Pesensson

1:01:00 > 1:01:02lasted around three hours.

1:01:02 > 1:01:04He told me many more things.

1:01:04 > 1:01:08For example, that he volunteered to hear these appeals

1:01:08 > 1:01:10because, at the time of the intifada,

1:01:10 > 1:01:15there were few military legal officers who agreed to do it.

1:01:15 > 1:01:18He also told me that he was known as the last judge

1:01:18 > 1:01:20to leave the holding camp at night,

1:01:20 > 1:01:23since he insisted on reading all of his cases carefully.

1:01:26 > 1:01:29One could say, in Pesensson's own words,

1:01:29 > 1:01:33that the viewer is only hearing a paraphrase of my interview with him,

1:01:33 > 1:01:38since it is I who decides what part of the conversation to show

1:01:38 > 1:01:40and what to leave out.

1:01:41 > 1:01:43The viewer can't ask Pesensson

1:01:43 > 1:01:45what he thinks about how I edited the interview.

1:01:47 > 1:01:50The viewer's free to judge persons and words

1:01:50 > 1:01:53but all the information comes from me.

1:04:31 > 1:04:33HAMMERING ON DOOR

1:04:33 > 1:04:35MAN SHOUTING

1:04:55 > 1:04:58The measures we used to suppress the uprising

1:04:58 > 1:05:00were challenged in the Supreme Court.

1:05:04 > 1:05:06Hundreds of petitions filed in those years

1:05:06 > 1:05:09and thousands of others that were discussed since then

1:05:09 > 1:05:13bring up more than just specific legal questions.

1:05:13 > 1:05:15They demonstrate how the Supreme Court,

1:05:15 > 1:05:19a staunch defender of individual rights inside Israel,

1:05:19 > 1:05:23met with the challenge of defending the rights of Palestinian residents

1:05:23 > 1:05:26while faced with demands to permit actions the army defined,

1:05:26 > 1:05:28"security imperatives".

1:05:35 > 1:05:38Again and again the Supreme Court discussed the punitive demolition

1:05:38 > 1:05:41of family homes, in which residents,

1:05:41 > 1:05:45suspected of harming Israelis or collaborators, resided.

1:05:49 > 1:05:53The court heard numerous petitions against deportations

1:05:53 > 1:05:55of suspected leaders of the uprising.

1:06:13 > 1:06:17Since the 1990s, the judges had to rule on the severe restrictions

1:06:17 > 1:06:20over freedom of movement imposed on the residents

1:06:20 > 1:06:22and to contend with the difference

1:06:22 > 1:06:25between the rights of Israeli settlers,

1:06:25 > 1:06:27and those of Palestinian residents.

1:06:31 > 1:06:33In the last decade,

1:06:33 > 1:06:37the Supreme Court was asked to stop the practice of targeted killings -

1:06:37 > 1:06:39execution, without trial,

1:06:39 > 1:06:42of residents who took part in military activity,

1:06:42 > 1:06:44who were responsible for it.

1:06:47 > 1:06:49Time and again the judges, in fact,

1:06:49 > 1:06:53restrained the army's actions against the occupied population.

1:06:56 > 1:07:00But the court almost never ruled that an action presented by the army

1:07:00 > 1:07:03as a "security imperative" was illegal.

1:09:34 > 1:09:36HE LAUGHS

1:10:16 > 1:10:20Justice Shamgar is familiar with the text I'm reading to him.

1:10:20 > 1:10:23It is one of the harshest, most compelling critiques

1:10:23 > 1:10:27written about Israel's rule of law to which Shamgar devoted his life.

1:10:29 > 1:10:32After reviewing hundreds of petitions,

1:10:32 > 1:10:35the writer finds that the court's intervention did, in fact,

1:10:35 > 1:10:39have a restraining effect on the prolonged occupation,

1:10:39 > 1:10:44but he dares ask, "Could it be that the very restraining effect,

1:10:44 > 1:10:46"as well as the whole balance and check system

1:10:46 > 1:10:50"created around the occupation, actually make it more sustainable?"

1:10:53 > 1:10:55"Is it possible," he asks,

1:10:55 > 1:10:58"that a non-regulated system would have served to delegitimise

1:10:58 > 1:11:02"the occupation in the eyes of Israeli society

1:11:02 > 1:11:04"and encourage us to end it?"

1:12:39 > 1:12:43In September 1999 the Supreme Court of Israel

1:12:43 > 1:12:45made one of the rare rulings

1:12:45 > 1:12:49in which it went beyond simply restraining the occupation

1:12:49 > 1:12:51and nearly abolished one of the practices

1:12:51 > 1:12:53used by the security forces.

1:12:57 > 1:13:01The court rejected the General Security Service's position,

1:13:01 > 1:13:04it ruled that, except in extreme cases,

1:13:04 > 1:13:08the use of torture during interrogation is a felony in Israel.

1:13:19 > 1:13:23The ruling was given at the end of a decade during which Palestinians,

1:13:23 > 1:13:25residents of the occupied territories,

1:13:25 > 1:13:30carried out mass suicide attempts in the heart of the State of Israel.

1:13:31 > 1:13:35Many voices in the Israeli public blamed the Supreme Court

1:13:35 > 1:13:40for setting Palestinians' human rights above our own security.

1:13:40 > 1:13:41Public.

1:13:44 > 1:13:46CROWD CHANTING

1:14:01 > 1:14:04But the process that led to this powerful decision

1:14:04 > 1:14:07began 12 years earlier in the 1980s,

1:14:07 > 1:14:11long before the large-scale suicide attacks

1:14:11 > 1:14:13and even before the uprising.

1:14:20 > 1:14:24In 1987, a governmental commission was appointed

1:14:24 > 1:14:29to investigate the genuine security service interrogation methods.

1:14:33 > 1:14:36The commission determined that, in fact,

1:14:36 > 1:14:39since the early years of the occupation, the service had been

1:14:39 > 1:14:43using various forms of torture during its interrogations.

1:14:45 > 1:14:47The commission also revealed that,

1:14:47 > 1:14:50when defendants claimed they were tortured,

1:14:50 > 1:14:52it was standard procedure for interrogators

1:14:52 > 1:14:56to testify in court and deny the use of force.

1:15:01 > 1:15:05The commission emphasised that the judges who had heard

1:15:05 > 1:15:09the false testimonies were not aware of this whole system.

1:23:16 > 1:23:18Mr Pesensson says that certain people

1:23:18 > 1:23:21should interrogate other people

1:23:21 > 1:23:24so that I can go to a movie in the evening

1:23:24 > 1:23:27or sit across from him and interview him.

1:23:33 > 1:23:36He reminds me that in the situation we've reached,

1:23:36 > 1:23:41my personal security depends on the violation of the security of others

1:23:41 > 1:23:45and that my freedom is at the expense of the freedom of others.

1:23:47 > 1:23:52Both making this film and viewing it take place under the auspices

1:23:52 > 1:23:55of people who take care of our security and freedom.

1:23:59 > 1:24:03Pesensson reminds me that the law I'm documenting might apply

1:24:03 > 1:24:07only to other people but is written for me.

1:26:01 > 1:26:04WHIZZING TAPE

1:26:12 > 1:26:15From case number 2058, in 2011...

1:26:17 > 1:26:21..the military prosecutor versus Basim Tamimi.

1:26:22 > 1:26:25The defendant addresses the court...

1:26:27 > 1:26:31"Your honour, I was born in the same year as the occupation

1:26:31 > 1:26:35"and ever since I've been living under its inherent inhumanity,

1:26:35 > 1:26:40"inequality, racism and lack of freedom...

1:26:45 > 1:26:48"..I've been incarcerated nine times in my life, amounting to almost

1:26:48 > 1:26:53"three years in prison, though I was never convicted of any felony.

1:26:56 > 1:27:00"During one of my detentions I was paralysed as the result of torture.

1:27:00 > 1:27:04"My wife has also been detained, my children wounded,

1:27:04 > 1:27:06"my land stolen by settlers

1:27:06 > 1:27:09"and now my house is slated for demolition.

1:27:15 > 1:27:19"International law recognises that occupied people

1:27:19 > 1:27:21"have the right to resist.

1:27:21 > 1:27:26"Following my belief in this right, I organise popular demonstrations

1:27:26 > 1:27:30"against the theft of more than half of the land of my village.

1:27:30 > 1:27:33"Against the settler attacks, against the occupation.

1:27:37 > 1:27:40"You, who claim to be the only democracy in the Middle East,

1:27:40 > 1:27:44"are trying me under laws written by authorities I've not elected,

1:27:44 > 1:27:48"authorities which do not represent me in any way.

1:27:48 > 1:27:52"For me, these laws do not exist. They are meaningless.

1:27:54 > 1:27:58"The military prosecutor accuses me of inciting protestors

1:27:58 > 1:28:01"to throw stones at soldiers.

1:28:01 > 1:28:05"What actually incited them was the occupation's bulldozers on our land,

1:28:05 > 1:28:08"the sound of guns and the smell of tear gas.

1:28:12 > 1:28:15"And if the military judge decides to release me,

1:28:15 > 1:28:21"will I be convinced that there is justice in your courts?"

1:28:23 > 1:28:26Basim Tamimi, from the village of Nabi Saleh,

1:28:26 > 1:28:28is standing trial in the military court

1:28:28 > 1:28:31at the same time that work on this film is being concluded.

1:28:34 > 1:28:37I will probably move on to document another subject.

1:28:39 > 1:28:42The audience has finished watching the reality that has been

1:28:42 > 1:28:46presented before them and can now go back to everyday reality.

1:28:48 > 1:28:52Basim Tamimi waits under arrest for his judgement.

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